Thread 96862352

Yu-Gi-Oh! General #584

"FUCK FLOODGATES t.Konami" Edition

Previous thread: >>96818640

Most Yu-Gi-Oh! discussion encouraged. Post OC, write dumb fanfics with bad CaC in them, duel each other, have fun, etc.

>Yu-Gi-Oh! Online Play
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>Useful Links
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>Decklists
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>Upcoming Releases
OCG:
●Terminal World 3 (Nov 22)
●Duelist Box: Prismatic Summon (Dec 20)
●THE CHRONICLES DECK: Spirit Charmers (All-Foil Edition) (Jan 24)

TCG:
●Legendary 5Ds Deck (Nov 6)
●Phantom Revenge (Dec 4)
●THE CHRONICLES DECK: Spirit Charmers (All-Foil Edition) (Jan 22)

>TQ: What did you think of the latest banlists (emergency TCG and Genesys)? Were any of your decks affected by it?
>TCaC: Take a shitty ritual archetype and give it support OR take a shitty vanilla card and turn it into a ritual archetype.

>>96862372
I prefer my waifus with bigger tits and above the age of consent.

>>96862459
she's crazy though, imagine if another girl showed interest in you or someone was mean to you

>>96862459
>>96862499
Aki isn't legal either, plus she's used goods.

If you have to choose between 6 underage girls (8 if you count sevens and go rush), you might as well go for the "freshest" one, who will offer emotional support no matter what.

>>96862352 (OP)
>TQ (Genesys)
The list minorly inconvenienced me. Albion, Upstart Goblin, and Granguignol getting point bumps meant that I couldn't run 3 copies of Pot of Greed anymore. I swapped them out for Dracotail Faimena digitally, but Faimena is a $15 card, so I won't be getting the replacements for a while.

>>96862550
I was about to ask why you're not running at least 1 aleister if you have fusion deployment, but apparently aleister only searches on normal and flip summon. Not that i ever special summoned the dude, but i didn't remember this specific detail.

>>96862567
Fusion Deployment is for Cartesia. The reason there's Invoked stuff in the extra deck is because they're substitute targets for Swamp King. My current list (rightfully) cuts Raidjin (it's a holdover from my Virtual World shenanigans, keep people on their toes) in favor of Lubellion, so as far as those targets go it's like
>Millennium-Eyes > Albion = Lubellion = The Dark Magicians > Mechaba

Mechaba has come up a handful of times during testing. But only a handful of times.

>>96862613
(to put it more clearly since I forgot that part), Mechaba is the lowest priority and I don't really consider summoning him unless I have dilly-dally on the board. If Mechaba were more integral to my gameplan, I would include a copy of Aleister since there's fusion effects for days here.

>>96862550
>Upstart Goblin,
Honestly not the biggest hit, it doesn't really provide much but deck thinning.
I would just drop them for more engine and maybe a handtrap.

>>96862631
I keep them around for Vice Madame's effect. Realistically it triggers one or maybe two of them, hypothetically it's all 3. With Pot of Greed that was consistently all of them, but I swapped those out for Faimena since she costs less and enables T0 Vice Madame with a good draw.

I'm not opposed to making space for handtraps though. If I cut out Upstart and Lubellion from my current build then I have 27 points for that. Albion needs to stay though, because in certain situations (in situations where I get unholy bricks), I can use it and a Schmietta/Pittore as fodder for Chorozo so that I can get a few spells into rotation. I don't need 3 whole copies of Chorozo for it, it's extra deck filler until I find a better replacement.

>>96862539
Nice try Traptrix player, but 17 is already legal in a good part of the world. And she is a looker in the timeskip.
And Black Rose Dragon is a kickass ace card. It's still funny how much support the archetype got, and how little Yusei's own Junk got

>>96862213
Specifically Final Fantasy did well but spiderslop is a flop. Sales are one thing, which scalpers and pretender-vendors were trying to emulate FF's success, but community feeling is at an all time low and the trust in WOTC is eroded pretty badly.
To give you an idea of how things are going.
>WOTC puts out a blog post about how they want to change a ruling in EDH/commander related to hybrid mana and how it interacts with deck building. (TLDR hydrid mana is considered an AND rather than OR when it came to what deck colors you needed to be on in order to play such cards with hybrid mana, the change want to flip that to OR)
>Community is up in arms about it
>Most arguements boil down to "I don't trust WOTC to manage the game right now, they keep fucking it up. Don't touch anything."
IMO the change is pretty harmless and wouldn't be bad unless the card designers, not anyone else, went full retard. But players are so desperate for a way to voice their distrust and displeasure with the game that they're using it as a platform to express it by any means necessary.
Separate to that people are really not happy about the volume of products they're shoving down the throats of the consumer. 7 core sets a year, 4 of which are external IPs. People not liking the themes, like the magical world of New York City TM being visited twice in less than a year. The constant lies and walkbacks. Them releasing a survery and asking you if content creators made you feel negative about the set and to fucking list them (likely so they can sent the pinkertons to "convince" them to be a bit more positive.) and if you didn't answer how they wanted you to it booted you from the survery early.

>>96862772
>Specifically Final Fantasy did well
I have to cover this.
FIN was 100% tourists. We have good records of tournament attendance and online player numbers for MTG, and the numbers boots from FIN all went back down to pre-FIN levels, and are now even lower than before lmao.

>>96862772
>IMO the change is pretty harmless
In addition:
My response to this would be, it does not matter if the change is harmless. The decades-old rulesset posed no problems. Changing it is pointless, even if the change does "no damage".

The whole mentality of "If it isn't broken, fix it until it is." ruins a LOT of things.

>>96862771
Junk doesn't need support, at the time Yusei's deck was the first deck owned by a protagonist that was actually playable and not a billion bricks and 2 card combos with no searchers.

Genesys should assign negative point values to cards like Pot of Generosity and The Gift of Greed. I don't mean substantially subtractions to your overall points, just enough to slightly offset your deck's totals so you can run a few 100 point cards, alongside maybe one or two extremely-low-value cards.

>>96863075
interesting design space

>>96862890
Not trying to get too off topic.
Hybrid mana is intended to be an OR, not AND with how the cards function in the color pie. How it's applied in commander is actually inconsistent with the intent of the card design so it is a fix in that logic. You're being told that's how it works without questioning why should it be that way. A 5 monkey experiment situation.
>But that's how it was made a decade ago
Not every change needs to adhere to an outdated design choice, else we would be still playing with D part of EDH. The format is allowed to change with time. If the format truely suffers from it they have the ability to roll it back too. I also doubt this is going to break the format, people haven't really been bitching about color pie adherence from design for a long time so I dont see a real reason why they would start doubting the designers now.

>>96863311
>Hybrid mana is intended to be an OR, not AND with how the cards function in the color pie. How it's applied in commander is actually inconsistent with the intent of the card design so it is a fix in that logic. You're being told that's how it works without questioning why should it be that way. A 5 monkey experiment situation.
I get it, but that's not how Commander was designed. Commander specifically implemented identity, which factors in both color and visible pips, meaning that hybrid cards are both identities. Saying hybrid should be an OR is like saying a hybrid creature should dodge protection from only one of its colors. It's just not how the game works. Hybrid cards are both colors. The COST allows for easier casting, but as Commander identity is based on color, and a hybrid card is both colors, it makes zero sense to allow their inclusion. Identity is one of the core features of the Commander rules. Play a different format if you don't want to have to consider it.

Bui anyways yes, wrong threat.

>>96863075
That would only serve to enable FTKs and other things boxed out by the 101 point combination. Even if you run 8 main deck cards that are bad enough for negative point values, that will only end up with a 1/5 card average dead draw.

Hell, Generosity could even end up valued if you are dealing with a deck using Mystic Mine for Stall-based Milling.

Some Live Twin cheerleader sex
https://exhentai.org/g/3574490/2fa3049dc0/

>>96862459
>above the age of consent.
>Akiza
Oh nonononononono

>>96862459
Based
>>96862499
>gf protects you
Based

Any advice? Bricks a lot, but it once made an all trap-card guy ragequit which made me proud. I really don't wanna do five minute turns.

>>96862372
wtf I love ZEXAL now

>>96862352 (OP)
>TQ
I wish KoA hit Artmage, Odion, and Typhoon more.
Maybe Artmage is fine, but Odion and Typhoon deserved more hits. I know KoA decreased the points of some backrow removal, but I wanted a direct point increase.
Also, why didn't it increase droll and shifter points?

>>96863327
I don't want to argue the point here because obviously this is not the place for it and we're at an impasse of a personal choice of which philosophy you want to subscribe to, one set by a literal dead guy 10 years ago or one that's in charge of designing the entire game today.

I would like to pick one unrelated sentence though.
>Play a different format if you don't want to have to consider it.
You don't get much of a choice. Commander is THE format and everything else is dead in paper. Good fucking luck finding standard and modern, let alone be populated to make it enjoyable or be an enjoyable format cardpool. Best you're getting is Limited like draft but even that is dead because pick-2-draft is somehow not popular (I don't understand why, but c'est la vie) and nobody wants to touch these dogshit UB products.
It's kind of the problem ygo had about 2 months ago where if you weren't into playing Advanced then you're basically homeless.
Sure there's a bunch of fan formats that exist but that doesn't mean any LGS is actually hosting them.

>>96862539
Why is that child's butt so ample?

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/136842445
Angel of Mischief sex

>>96864470
>You don't get much of a choice. Commander is THE format and everything else is dead in paper.
See, that's a problem and suggests how poorly the game is managed. It's the whole system of failures.
You should have other formats to play if you don't think color identity is reasonable, but now you don't because they've all been butchered. And since you don't, the idea of deleting the game's rules and breaking color identity starts coming into consideration. Then you break those rules, and the people who got into EDH partly because the deckbuilding restrictions were interesting start losing their will to play too.

These are the kinds of changes that cull players who actually like the game. The more of these kinds of changes you make, the more your playerbase's love for the game gets strangled. By chopping apart entrenched systems, you terrorize people who care deeply about the game, until all you're left with is players who kind of just play because it's something to do and some people they know do it.

People who love the game, leave the game when you ruin what they love about it. Nobody new joins the game because you did, "We refactored this 25 year old legacy system!" is not something you can advertise to new players.

>It's kind of the problem ygo had about 2 months ago where if you weren't into playing Advanced then you're basically homeless.
Man, I honestly love Genesys and am so glad my LGS has already picked it up. The people managing the format seem dead set on keeping it actually, properly maintained.

>>96864394
I don't think Artmage is at the point where it's good enough to get hit yet, unless you're talking specifically about Genesys in which case I'd agree. I think the deck is just obnoxious and don't like playing against them personally. Not broken, not overpowered, just obnoxious as hell.

>>96865150
I should've clarified that I'm only talking about Genesys

>>96865433
Yeah then in that case, I'll definitely agree that some slightly stronger hits would be nice. Nerva should be 10 points given that its field wipe effect is a soft OPT, and the field spell should be worth *at least* 10 or 15 for the sheer amount of legwork it does for the deck. You could also make an argument for Alteration since that either gives you access to the field spell or perform a search, but I don't think it'd be necessary if Arcopolis has a decently high point value.

Mostly unrelated, but Fire King Jurrac has been giving me trouble in the format and I didn't think those are words I'd ever utter before Genesys. Being able to spam a non-OPT field wipe three times in a row is nuts. I'm the witchcrafterfag (not the verrefag, different guy) that posted earlier and I make a point to get Bystreet up and Holiday's effect spammable whenever I see them. I suppose the combination of Astero+Meteor put the fear of soft/non-OPT field nukes into my heart, which is why I'm more open to bumping Nerva's points up.

After messing around with it a bit in YGO Omega, I'm considering picking up my Synchro Odion deck in paper.

>>96864314
What the hell is this deck even? Cydra literally just got the few missing pieces it needed to not die after a single ash blossom and/or when made to go first.

Wurm and jormungardr made the deck rely more on the cyberdark cards, which let you set up regulus (omni negate) before the 5th summon, and s:p on exactly the 5th. Going first it also sets up infinity and heosvarog (spell/trap negate), but going second it still has the muscle needed to OTK, the deck is incredibly versatile now.

You wouldn't be missing a lot of URs to get a full power deck (except for the staples i guess), so look up a list on mdm/ygoprodeck or even youtube to understand how the deck works.

>>96862539
Thighs.

all this bitch does is sleep and spout off cryptic bullshit when she isn't sleeping

>>96867523
why is her hand a foot?

>>96862459
Oh also the giant woman from Go Rush! She's huge, and also flat and somewhat brown. That's like having not one, not two but THREE scoops of ice cream holy fuark.

>>96867559
imagine

>>96862372
Did she die?

>>96862459
I want Anna to run a train on me

>>96862539
>Aki isn't legal either
The final duel between Jack and Yusei takes place when she's 18, with flash forward scenes of her being 26.
The only difference in her designs there from >>96862459 look is she's wearing more casual clothes during the final duel, and she's wearing a doctor's uniform with her hairstyle somewhat changed at 26.

Abandoned the game at Pendulums, what the FUCK are lswarms up to that warranted a hit in 2025?

>>96868635
Evilswarm Ouroboros can be made eith generic materials and turbo out through other means to let people handrip for up to 2, because its restriction can let you do it multiple times if it left the field and was resummoned, rather than being a Hard Once-Per.

>>96868635
A particularly strong Rank 4 engine came out (Ryzeal) that could bring out multiple copies of the guy and handrip you. King of the Feral Imps got hit for a similar reason, except instead it's because a particularly strong Ritual archetype (Mitsurugi) came out that you can run in the aforementioned Rank 4 engine.

A long-standing rule with this game is that things aren't broken, until suddenly they are.

>>96868618
>bro i swear she didn't look 12
Literally the excuse most pedos irl use, who gives a shit about the age of fictional characters anyway? If you care that much, maybe r_ddit is more your speed.
>>96868635
Ryzeal onomat shits out enough bodies to summon it alongside detonator, either of the F0's and duo drive, and they have a card (plugin) that lets them resummon it with a material attached, and since the dude is soft OPT you can handrip again.

>>96868635
>Abandoned the game at Pendulums,
Good thing for you, the game has now abandoned Pendulums too!

>>96868904
Pendulums? What the fuck is a pendulum? Oh you mean that stupid summoning mechanic from the fanmade web series? It was okay but it wasn't official at all. No way Konambo would put something like that...

>>96868971
shart-v is peak yugioh until episode 47-49 (can't remember), before not-kaiba tells egao-man that he needs to assemble the cringevengers to go fellate crow in the 5d's dimension

>>96869005
are you seriously telling me i have to deal with crow again

>>96869278
Not if you read the manga instead, which in a lot of ways is better than the anime but is in some ways worse.

>>96868971
Putting aside how fucking weird you are; They recently launched Genesys format, which is designed to be a casual format that takes Pendulum and Link Monsters out of the game while letting you run with the most up-to-date decks. Link Monsters had a good reason for being removed since it makes it difficult to assess point values for both themselves and the things they enable, but there wasn't a good reason to remove pends at all.

Angry yugiboomers don't like it when you point it out, but the thing that wrangles the format is the point system rather than the removal of pendulum and link monsters. Pends are totally irrelevant in the current game, and while Link Monsters are prevalent in the game, they do not completely dominate it like they do in the heads of people that don't play the game. Like hell, the top archetype in the game is currently a Fusion archetype, and before that the most dominant decks were a Ritual/Xyz deck that minimally utilized Link monsters, and a Main Deck/Xyz deck that has exactly 1 Link Monster. All of them (Mitsurugi, Ryzeal, K9, and Vanquish Soul) had to get slaughtered on Genesys' point list because they were simply performing too well on their own.

So I’m the one from the last thread who hasn’t been into Yu-Gi-Oh for 20 years. My LOB 25th Anniversary booster box came today. Already made my money back. Got a rare 7-holo box. Didn’t get Blue Eyes or Dark Magician like I’d hoped, but I didn’t do too bad. Think I’m gonna stick to collecting the 25th Anniversary reprints. The modern cards… idk. Way too many holos (kinda defeats the purpose of making non-rare cards holos), the cards are too powerful, and there’s just other various weird shit. Think I’ll just stick to playing and collecting pre-2005 era stuff.

>>96869400
No need to get your panties in a twist Anon. I was simply poking fun at how Pendulums are Komoney's forsaken child and how the anime shits itself when Mr. Blackwing Propaganda and Atlas appear. Which reminds me-

>>96869278
Yes. Buy Blackwing cards. Play Blackwings. Everybody loves Blackwings. Play Blackwings.

>>96869571
You kind of did it like a whiny cunt. Pretend you didn't write that post and read it back to yourself.

>>96869552
Cool stuff, love OG cards.

>>96869552
Before you go crazy with these, keep in mind that only LOB and IOC are worth anything, so if you're adamant on buying then opening boosters, stick to these two.

Luckily for you there is a format that uses all these fossils, it's called GOAT, but it's not exactly "dark magician VS blue-eyes", both cards are worthless in fact, the top decks are pretty much all goodstuff/chaos piles.

Bonz/Pumpking support coming in the New Year.
Some of the currently OCG exclusive alt arts as well.

>>96869699
>Pumpking support
I'm all in.

>>96869699
>bonz support
yup, ancient yugiboomers we're eating good

>>96869729
>we're eating good
boy we FEASTING

>>96869699
>field spell can set CotH from deck
>when you summon something with CotH, it also sends a monster from the opponent's field
sounds great, hopefully the send doesn't target
>spell boosts zombies, grabs the field spell or a level 6 zombie, then draws a card for each CotH you control
genuinely great, since you will need discards
>pumpking retrain can reveal itself and toss any card to set CotH from deck, which can be activated this turn, and when special summoned it can summon any level 6 zombie from deck
ALMOST perfect, it should have let you set CotH from the graveyard as well, otherwise how do you recycle these? but getting two level 6's without using up your normal sounds amazing for zombie pile, since spiridao can foolish anything, however this also turns it into a garnet since ghost fusion can use shit on hand and field as well
>xyz 6 gives targeting protection to zombies, adds CotH or any of the new cards, and can detach a material to bounce 2 cards
neat, now uni-zombie will resolve as long as you bait out ash earlier in the combo, it's also basically a better queen tiaramisu lol, here's hoping that bounce is a quick effect (like the new queen tiaramisu lmao)
>xyz 7 is straight up a better full armored
good

not sure how zombie piles will look after these cards, but i hope they finally let you do away with the shitty gay punk cards

>5Ds deck packs will contain 1x of each of the Charmies
Imminent Mulcharmy ban confirmed?

>>96869886
they just keep trying to make Maxx "C" a thing and it will never be a thing

What happens to Eldlich trap monsters if they're flipped to face down defense?

>>96869991
They go back to the S/T zone.

>>96869920
I want it unbanned because I've been theorycrafting a full "C" deck for ages.

>TQ
>Manju = 1pt
>now at 102 points
FUCKING TARGETED HARASSMENT THOSE FUCKS

>>96870019
xD Looks like you're dropping a Pot!

>>96870019
>>96870025
Look at the bright side, now he has 28 points

>>96868470
I don't like her hair it reminds me too much of Princess Ruto.

>>96869552
Are those Exodia cards alternate art? Kind of strange to take the star corners away.

>>96870321
That'a the normal (censored) TCG art

>>96870312
Ruto was the best girl in OoT

>>96870312
Reminds me more of Haman from Gundam

>>96869699
>Mask enthusiasts cucked once again by one of the most irrelevant characters in the anime, even more irrelevant than Mako Tsunami.
Wow Kaiba really hated that tag duel to the point that he refuses to allow Konami to print new support almost 25 years later.

>>96869005
>Sniff
Spicy.

>>96871274
>Mask
>Red Eyes
Who else is on Kaiba's personal shitlist?

>>96872118
the kids would be too aroused if she was introduced back into the game

>>96869005
Kill Crow. Behead Crow. Roundhouse kick Crow into the concrete. Slam dunk a Crow baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Crow. Defecate in Crow’s food. Launch Crow into the sun. Stir fry Crow in a wok. Toss Crow into active volcanoes. Urinate into Crow’s duel runner gas tank. Judo throw Crow into a wood chipper. Twist Crow’s heads off. Report Crow to Sector Security. Karate chop Crow in half. Curb stomp pregnant Crow. Trap Crow in quicksand. Crush Crow in the trash compactor. Liquefy Crow in a vat of acid. Eat Crow. Dissect Crow. Exterminate Crow in the gas chamber. Stomp Crow’s skull with steel toed boots. Cremate Crow in the oven. Lobotomize Crow. Mandatory abortions for Crow’s orphan friends. Grind Crow’s orphan friends in the garbage disposal. Drown Crow in fried Blackwing grease. Vaporize Crow with psychic powers. Kick old Crow down the stairs. Feed Crow to Gigaplant. Slice Crow with Thorn of Malice.

What are we adding, bros?

>>96873072
Aki...
You forgot to feed Crow the grinded remains of his orphan friends and make no mention of this until he comments on the taste of his meal. Then, and only then mention the fresh ingredients how they were picked up from the streets of Satellite and turned into pic related

>>96871453
Still can't believe this is official art.

>zexal 125 and 126
they were fuckin' kids

>>96874179
Seriously?! From where?!

Can you date Rei in the Tag Force games? Never played them.

>>96874262
in 3 yeah but "dating" is a bit of a stretch unless you consider tag dueling dating

>>96873323
3 Pot of Greed
3 Graceful Charity

>>96874285
>+210/100 points
IN THEY GO.

>>96874276
>unless you consider tag dueling dating
Well yeah, it's basically sex.

>>96874411
must be why all the tag force girls are obsessed with konami kun

>>96874262
You can date her in Tag Force 3. But you first have to get hit by the Friendzone Direct Attack in some of the most painful duels known to man. She then rewards you for your pains by playing Lightsworns, the best fucking archetype in that game, and basically blitzing through anything you throw at her. I won't spoil the ending but lemme tell you, I was not a Blairfag until I played her story.
Also Maiden in Love archetype when

>>96874432
>uncontested King of Duels
>plays meta decks or deranged shit like Egyptian Gods or Frogs or Clowns
>spends a fortune on gifts for his various girlfriends and boyfriends
>ALWAYS knows what to say and what to gift you
>canonically never loses a single duel
>even villains request his aid
And if you disagree, Konamiman will gift you the Eggwich and you WILL become friends with him

>>96874432
What kind of creature is this?

>>96874622
coelacanth
loli

>>96874622
>Kami, Yukiko Umino in Japanese version
>A student of Duel Academy.
A multimillionaire's daughter, she is about to make her formal debut in high-class society.

Being thoroughly unaware of how the life of anyone with a lower social standing is like, her words and actions often come across as venomous, but she does not seem to intend to be malicious.
She is currently receiving specialized duel training, as social dueling is a mandatory subject for a debut in high society.
Appears to be making conscious efforts to have her rhythm, steps and drawing match music in triple time perfectly, so as to befit the manners of a lady with her lineage, and has further developed her abilities.

Her given name is Yukiko, but it tends to be misread as Sachiko.
Beware of misreading it in front of her, as it will make her go berserk.

While her parents have picked a fiancee for her, she thinks her marriage should be an affair of love, and wants to find a husband by herself through a proper relationship.
It seems she has someone in mind already.

>>96874853
These games don't need to be played in order, do they?

I have been lied to.
Look at those breasts. The breasts of lies.

>>96874917
Nope

>>96874917
No. Be warned that Tag Force NPCs are not Duel Links NPCs. You will duel a little girl and set up a cute board, which she will wipe out with a convenient Dark Hole, then use Foolish Burial to send Malicious to the grave and set up the TeleDAD fuck train. My first duel in Tag Force was against a kid who kicked my teeth in with NATURIA for fuck's sake.
Grind, grind hard for cards. Or cheat and get free money.

I just want to say thank you to all the retards who choose to go with the master magia combo instead of just adding veiler and roar, not only is your board infinitely easier to disable, if i handtrap you correctly you can't even go spirit dragon/seals pass.

Do we have a win percentage of going first in Genesys like we do for advanced?

>>96874466
>She then rewards you for your pains by playing Lightsworns, the best fucking archetype in that game
It was such a shock to play around with TF3, dueling against the various anime characters who mostly have fairly weak decks, and then I try Rei and go against fucking Lightsworns which are not the easiest thing in the world to deal with on a fresh save file.

Play Gradius.

>>96874936
It kills me that the tag force characters haven’t had any sort of story given to them that could be in the background of the main yugioh plot where they have their own saving the world adventure

>>96874432
>>96874622
>>96874853
most of the girls are brats in this game, need correction or love

>>96876426
Blair and Zane have the strongest decks I think. Lightsworns are a pain to deal with, and Cyber Dragons are busted as shit. Funny enough, I struggled the most with Jaiden. Elemental Heroes brick like crazy and Neos is gimmicky and painfully slow. Only thing it was going for is our patron of Removal, Patriarch of Ass-Saving, Neo-Spacian Grand Mole

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/136921041
Diabellestarr not quite sex

Question, when you play low level yugioh, like high school libray tier, do you care about the ban list?

>The only duelist in the entire series with a 100% winrate.
KNEEL.

>>96877712
Depends if I know the other person is an asshole and is going to bring something extremely gay like an FTK or deepdraw deck. I'm down to play no banlist if they want to play something like isolde in a noble knight deck but if they're going to bring an FTK/handloop INK deck then we're gonna have to talk.
I see the ban list as more of a suspect list in a kitchen table format. I'm cool to play with F/L cards at increased amounts but you have to kind of explain yourself to justify it before the game or if the card is becoming a problem we talk about how it's skewing games too much after playing with it.
>Post game
>"Hey can we talk about X card, I'm near entirely good with playing without the TCG ban list but I think X card is really making games lopsided. It is one of the cards on the ban list normally so it is a recognized problem card not just by us. Maybe it's too much, in this deck, for what we're playing."

If you're all too autistic and can't handle having such a conversation and nuance then just make it easy on all of yourselves and play by the ban list so it's no fuss.

>>96877712
>high school library tier
The answer is "yes" because those will be people that are competent enough to comprehend basic stuff about the game and pay attention to what goes on with the meta to an extent. In that setting, with the idea in mind that they're just getting together to play the game casually and aren't competing against other clubs, I would suggest treating the banlist as more of a suggestion instead of strictly enforcing it. Though I will say that this would probably invite unwanted chaos when you decide that something that one of your players just fucking sucks and was rightfully banned.

You could just use Genesys format and go for a higher point cap so that you get to throttle the little bastards without having to explicitly say that this or that can or cannot be played. It was kind of designed for that sort of thing. The only catch is that there's no Link Monsters so you might have to tolerate one or two people bitching and moaning about that, but that's not a huge loss.

>>96877712
just play genesys
>>96878528
>use Genesys format and go for a higher point cap
this!

>>96878528
>>96878553
I'll check genesys out

>New format
>You can only build decks with cards from one (1) set
What set wins?

>>96882935
Off the top of my head I'd say one of the Mega Packs or the DBPs

One of my most prized possessions. A McDonalds Yu-Gi-Oh promo Millennium Shield still in great condition.

>>96883416
Very nice anon.

>>96866898
I moved some things around, generated some cards, and managed to get to Platinum before the new season pushed me back to Gold.

>>96882935
POTE, tearlaments. Even without ishizu cards I think it would blow out most other decks with this restriction. Most DBP archetypes are ok but really need their 1st and 2nd support waves from outside their inital set.
Keep in mind with POTE you also get:
>Garura
>Kurikara
>Ultimate Slayer
>Terrors of the overroot (kind of removal and gy hate trap)
>Spright elf
>Amazement attraction thrill train (a generic banish a monster until EP trap)

Besides that maybe one of the mega tins. I would imagine one of them would have a complete archetype in them that might be stronger than the above but POTE tear + staples is a hard bar to clear. Note: Tears from POTE were skipped in the mega tins.

wow this season is fucking awesome

>>96884701
Zexal really did get done dirty with its english dub. There's probably an alternate universe where it's regarded as one of the best in the west simply because they found a better VA for Yuma

>>96884701
Okay, now this is epic.

>>96884764
>Zexal really did get done dirty with its english dub. There's probably an alternate universe where it's regarded as one of the best in the west simply because they found a better VA for Yuma
Yuma's design is also just very ugly and he's easily one of, if not the, worst protagonists.

>>96885222
he’s got some of the best character development though

>>96885394
It's no Jaden but I don't disagree. Fuck his voice in the dub is grating though.

>>96885403
yes, it would have been better if his voice actor just used the Yuma voice when he is in dark zexal form, it sounds more natural

>>96885222
I don't disagree, but if he didn't have that grating voice in the English dub then I think people would grow accustomed to it. It's clearly designed for after he starts doing form changes and the hurdle is getting to the point of the series where he starts doing form changes (sorry if that's a spoiler for the anon watching the series, but that's a thing he does).

>>96885394
Sure he develops but he goes from a 2/10 to a 4/10.

>>96885925
>Sure he develops but he goes from a 2/10 to a 4/10.
Bigger gap than the rest lol.

I think we can all admit that Yugi was the good protagonist out of the entire series.

>>96886963
Ahem
>has one if not THE best deck out of every protagonist
>has some of the best cards from his era (why would anyone throw Junk Synchron into the trash!?)
>claims "I can fix her", and actually does fix the baddest bitch with the biggest tits in the entire franchise
>he has a useless anime power which is only relevant in like, what, second season? point is, my man is pure skill (and incredible luck)
>"SYNCHRO SHOUKAN! HISOUSEYO, STARUDUSTU DRAGON!"
I do like Yugi, mind you, but Yusei is also up there

>>96884701
The best scene in all of Yugioh is in one of the last duels of the season.
>"O god of war embodying Chaos, grant to me my dearest wish! Chaos Xyz: King of Hope, Barian!"
>"In the end, I couldn't protect any of you. Durbe... Mizael... Girag... Merag... Alito... even Vector..."
>"We wanted to combine our strength and guide the future of the Barians. But that dream could never come true."

>>96887485
Aki is way better written, but I find Aoi to be the most attractive girl in the series.

>>96887485
I'd put Yusei's deck solidly in third. Yuma gets first because Anime numbers have a bunch of bullshit continuous effects applied to them and is able to consistently get them out, and Yusaku gets second because he has one card lines to Accesscode Talker or pre-eratta Firewall Dragon.

>>96887485
>has one if not THE best deck out of every protagonist
*chains Ash on your Speeder*
... anyways

this can't be happening

>>96890304
I hate to admit it... the OG series is the... it's the only good one but...... but.... this one.....
it's good

>>96889903
What are you LARPing about? Neither of these cards are in the anime/manga (ocg structures is a seperate series, not 5Ds).
However since you bring it up, yusei is actually one of the protags that plays meaningful handtrap(s) (something that's not just some flavor of damage prevention) in his deck, Effect Veiler is from yusei you know.
>Hurr I use a negate/silver bullet on your play, that means they're bad
The exact same scenario could be applied to every single character, this statement is meaningless.

>>96888962
Yuma and Yusaku also have bullshit hax in the form of Astral Draw and Storm Access

>>96888962
>Yuma's deck is the best because it has anime bullshit applied to it
>Doesn't apply any of the anime bullshit any other character has
Trying to pull a fast one huh? If you're going to consider yuma's deck with anime BS then you have to give everyone it equally. Or consider them all without it.
If we're playing around in the world of anime BS it would likely put Yuya at the top due to him having access to the ability to synthesize cards in his main deck (if we consider stuff like speed world and action fields to be a part of their respective card pools) with action cards. And with how the anime works, most people outside standard dimension don't know how or can't make use of those cards.
Feels strange having to go to bat for yuya's on the premise of his deck having anime BS that just makes a bunch of "perfect timing cards" natively.
But if you want to ignore all that still and just stick to yuma being the only one to get anime BS
>The number monsters have a bunch of bullshit continuous effects
Not really. They have 1 which is they can't be destroyed by battle by a non number monster. You can negate this effect as seen in the anime because it's a part of their text and not an outside-the-game thing as well as use any other form of removal such as backrow or monster effects. It's really not as good as you're making it out to be.

>>96890304
is he alright

If we're including anime bullshit then Yuma would be the winner. He has all of Atem's bullshit and more, since Number monsters in Zexal are bullshit and Yuma can literally make cards out of thin air.

I want a Yugiwife.

>>96893463
>He can make cards
That's really not that impressive. Just about all the primary protags can materialize cards that they need. There's the true card creations in shining draw, storm access, crimson dragon, whatever you want to call yuya's ability to make pends + action cards, and I hear that Sevens protag also does it but I can't comment to what extent or how. There's destiny draw but that's not really creating cards but just drawing the right one as needed that he already has. Then jaden has technically nothing during duels.
>Numbers are bullshit
Was already covered by >>96891165. Battle protection that can be negated is laughable.
Get off his dick man, yuma is on par with everyone else in terms of abilities. He's not special and just because you were 10 when zexal aired and you imprinted on him doesn't mean he's all that great.

>>96894243
I was a kid when DM was airing and even I'm able to objectively say that the protag of the series that I hated the most is the best among them. The only one that comes close is Yusaku because he could summon Firewall Dragon and bounce any Number monster he summoned off of the field. It's true that Judai could get them off of the field with his 1of copy of Superpoly, but pretty much every single superpoly target in his deck was donkeyshit so it wouldn't matter for more than a single turn. Maybe pull the cock out of your mouth to breathe sometime instead of shoving more down your disgusting craw.

Could I use pic related to summon Scar of the Vendread then Ritual Summon Revendread Slayer with just that one card, or do I need to use a plurality of monsters?

>>96894596
Plurality isn't needed, no. The card functions as you expect it to.
>Summon Scar
>Proceed to Ritual Summon Revendread Slayer, using Scar as material

Top 8 of the Farfa tournament that ran using the newest Genesys list. Had about 170 people, so it's at least decent data.

Lists aren't revealed yet as Top 8 is happening tomorrow.

>>96894859
One thing I will say is that I'm sick of seeing Radiant Typhoon. It's being used like Allure of Darkness for any deck running Quickplay spells, or at least it is both online and at my locals. Still having fun with the format though.

>>96893463
If we include anime bullshit, then Crow would somehow win in order to promote the new Blackwing XYZ support, coming soon in Wings of the Network pack. Buy now! Don't miss a chance to pull the ultra rare XYZ monster Blackwing - Waang the Trickster, the ultra rare field spell card Network of Blackwings, and the ultra rare effect monster Blackwing - Daedalus the Revolutionary. Included is a key for Duel Links and Master Duel. Buy now. Also pendulum cards and pendulum support for Red Eyes, this time we cracked the code guys- I swear we got it. Buy now.

>>96894859
Correction:
Top 8 has already been played, replays are going to be on stream tommorrow. Someone over on /vg/'s /dng/ is claiming this is the list that got 1st.

>>96894927
Considering how bad it's set originally was, I'm glad that it has a home somewhere. Even if it seems to be turning into PotentialMan.dek.

This is the second major tournament where it's gotten 2/8 slots in top cut and has still failed to secure 1st.

>>96895041
No way, Invoker is back? I thought everybody had ditched him for Branded

>>96895113
Branded Fusion is 40 points and most of its options are 10 points, thanks to The Fallen and The Virtuous.
Meanwhile, Invoked is free except for the floodgate fusion, Invoked Caliga being a 100.

>>96862352 (OP)
>THE CHRONICLES DECK: Spirit Charmers
I am interested in this because I bought Spirit Charmers structure deck only for people to chime in about how they're not good/competitive decks. I have no doubt in my mind this all foil deck will make it good to use against people competitively.

>>96895197
You'll just get a few cool reprints, the newest charmer alt arts (the ones where they wear a scarf) and 4 new alt arts for miscellaneous cards, with one of them probably being secret village of the spellcasters. Don't expect the 2 new cards to pull the deck out of the gutter unless they go full CaC on them.

>>96895619
>don't expect the 2 new cards to pull the deck out of the gutter unless konami does the thing they've been doing for the past 3 years

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/137033312
Collection of sex with various girls

I activate Eatgaboon!
Response?

>>96895197
It's gonna be hard. The page for it says that there's only gonna be 2 new cards for the deck, and each of their cards are individually written as support for specific attributes rather than working alongside each other.

If you want hope for it to be fixed...you'd probably want a Link-1 that can be made with any Charmer or Familiar-Possessed monster. As for effects...I mean something on the scale of:
>The attribute of this card is the same as the material used for its summon.
>If this card is special summoned, place "Awakening of the Possessed" and "Unpossessed" from your hand, deck, GY, or banishment face-up in two of your Spell/Trap zones.
>Special summon as many "Charmer" or "Familiar-Possessed" monsters from your hand, deck, GY, or banishment as possible. Immediately after this effect resolves, Link summon 1 Link Monster using materials you control, including this card, and afterwards, you cannot summon for the rest of the turn.

Then there's some Link-6 Charmer with an effect that treats it as having all attributes. Maybe make it unable to be tributed or used as Link material if you have 3 or more attributes in the Graveyard, and having some form of quick effect non-negate interaction where you banish two attributes from grave at a time, and each attribute can be banished only once.

This is an incredibly linear gameplan, but its kinda hard to make one within the restrictions of just 2 new cards with the archetype being support for their individual attributes way more than working together.

>>96895732
Considering the original charmer's effects, make the Banish 2 Attributes quick effect interaction being a steal effect to zones the card points to, with the card having bottom-left, bottom, bottom-right arrows. Maybe restrict it to only take from specific zones, and give it top-left, top, top-right arrows as well.

>>96894859
Happy to see another top 8 with a diversity of lists.

>>96894859
So you're saying I should build Quants?

>>96896274
Yes, probably specifically the Dekaranger build

>>96894859
odion is his slave name, his name is Rishid

>decide to try master duel after not knowing anything about yugioh since GX
>play through the tutorial trying to learn
>jump to duels
>guy in first turn spends over 10 minutes just summoning and sacrificing monster non-stop
>ends turn
>finally I get to play
>nope for some fucking reason my standby phase turns into his second turn, spend another 5 minutes doing the same shit
>forgot it was my turn
>get notification that I have to make a move
>summon a monster face down in defense because his field is full of monster with over 3000atk
>end my turn
>he clears my field not even on his standby phase just at the end of my end phase
>clearly has enough atk power to end the duel
>spends another 5 minutes summoning and sacrificing monsters
>at one point he clears his entire field only the fill it back up with monsters
>then he decides to end the duel.
>uninstall master duel

What the fuck is even this game? I was in rookie rank.
pic related my fucking face when

>>96902340
It's a whale hunting game, Anon. You play it to hunt the fattest whales Konami can throw at you. I've seen plenty, fat and decorated with every cosmetic in game, but also hidden whales who seem like any other fish until they start to show off their decks

>>96902340
Rank automatically decays all the way down to Rookie if you spend several months away. A lot of people with higher tier decks tend to drop that low, as well as people min-maxxing an alternate account.

Though I will also say that you know how the game was released internationally in 2002 and Cyber Dragon was released in late 2005? There's been 20 years of evolution since then.

There are now existing ways to stop those combos that you were hit with and it's not impossible to catch up with the state of the game, but the base tutorials tend to not be anywhere close to enough. It's a similar situation to fighting games where the tutorials are just dogshit at helping you learn.

I can give you a rundown s to how to improve if you want some help.

>>96902340
>Jump into the game 20 years after you stopped playing
>Spend a little bit of time playing through the tutorial for a deckbuilding game
>Expect that to be 1:1 to the real player-vs-player experience

Here's a protip: Watch real games if you want to get a grasp on how the game plays. Master Duel literally has the functionality to spectate random duels baked into the client.

>>96902340
You've been gone for almost 20 years. The game, like anything else, has changed a lot in 20 years. You also have to understand that your conception as a child probably is not very representative of what the game was actually like in a competitive setting as well as the internet promoting widespread communication on how to be better at the game.
I don't want to say abandon all feeling from the past, but you have to understand that you've been gone for such a long time. Rather than expect nostalgia, treat it as something entirely new and then revisit familiar faces in deck building. Many of them have gotten support over the years and maybe you jive with something new alongside the old.
If you're looking for something super lightweight to test decks or brew I'd recommend EDOpro. Super light weight that even phones can run it. And it's free-free, not free-to-start like MD. You can find the download in the OP.

>>96902340
I'd echo what >>96902624 is saying about using one of the fansims first.

Though one thing that might help ease the process a bit may be YGO Omega instead as that has a Ranked mode for Genesys. Don't be under the impression that it will be like Yu-Gi-Oh when you left it, but it will mean your primary focus will be on catching up with the speed of the game with only two newer (to you) mechanics to adjust to with Synchro and XYZ. May need a slight adjustment due to building decks of 100 points over the regular banlist of X copies, but it's a much smaller adjustment.

Similarly, the points list can serve as a bit of a guide as to what new cards are powerful. There's 505 cards on it (all other cards cost 0 points) and some are banned in the actual game, but this also means there's some old cards you'd be familiar with on there like Pot of Greed and help you figure out many, though not all, cards that are pretty good.

If you want some lists:
https://ygoprodeck.com/category/format/genesys%20decks

>>96902698
Omega also has casual matchmaking for Genesys, in case you just want to do best of 1 matches to get a grasp on a variety of decks quickly.

i finished zexal

This ugly monster emits a highly poisonous gas.

>>96902340
The game has indeed changed a fuckton since the GX era, but you also unfortunately faced a very specific kind of player: a small penised individual (often chinese or indian) who specifically makes alt accounts to stomp newbies in the lower ranks BECAUSE he isn't skilled/determined enough to make it out of platinum/diamond rank (third/second highest) in his main.

>>96902340
>What the fuck is even this game?
It has evolved into a game about minmaxing decklists over on-the-board gameplay.

>>96897517
Based and Rishidpilled truth speaker.

>>96902340
>>clearly has enough atk power to end the duel
>>spends another 5 minutes summoning and sacrificing monsters
I hate this shit. 200k crystals and they're still farming daily rewards. If you do this you should kill yourself.

>>96902340
One can say that it's reasonable to expect a tutorial to cover most of the bases, but pretty much ever since the game's inception, there has been a disconnect between what's portrayed in single player experiences compared to the real-life application of the game. What you've just done is the equivalent of watching the first season of the DM anime and then playing Forbidden Memories to get into the game, only to find out that everyone is playing Goat Control or Thunder Dragon Chaos. The only difference is the timescale.

If you want to get back into a game, you need to watch how real-life people actually play the game. It is the only way to get an accurate representation of the state of a game.

>exclusively play duel links against the cpu
>build decks for the sole purpose of playtesting against myself
>watch the yugioh anime by myself
>any lgs events are always too late for me or i'm working one of my jobs
*sips*

>>96904965
Made me think of this again.
It's kind of strange how nobody has made some kind of chess-by-post way to play yugioh. Only issue would be the number of response windows but I feel like you just have to accept that, maybe limit it to the DL card pool?

>>96903585
https://exhentai.org/g/979863/74e2c489cd/
https://exhentai.org/g/1424238/42e6e58a63/
Obligatory post of the best Alexis/Asuka sex ever

>>96905484
Response can be balanced with duel speed by allowing turn player to declare 3-5 actions before giving a window for opponent to make a response, or a quip. If the opponent does have a response, they chain to the relevant card, and all actions after that card are deleted from the timeline of the duel.

>>96905606
The problem is that you could be revealing hidden info in those batch actions.
>activate monster reborn and revive a guy
>make something from ED that letxs just say draws 1 like a formula synchron
>you now have top deck knowledge
>opp now responds to this batch with a DD crow to prevent monster reborn
>you still have top deck knowledge even though you now shouldn't
or
>opp has a negate and destroy like a solemn
>you batch play a starter that gets something not an extender and play an extender from hand in a seperate chain
>opp can now perfect knowledge that you already have the extender and hit only that to most effectively shut you down and let the useless add through
I just don't think that batch action thing will work well.

>>96904965
This is me a lot of times but with emulators for Tag Force and the GBA games.
My LGS is 1 hour away and its either stay out until 11pm on a worknight or eat an entire saturday with 2 hours of travel and a 4-6 hour locals.
Shit sucks.

>>96905484
You would still have that problem even with the DL card pool. They already have things like Dragon Link and Illusion Chimera.

The only way it'd work is if you played in an ultra-simplified gamestate, or alternatively if you made a slightly more direct Chess-by-Post parallel by using Duelist of the Rose's system. Responses and the like would still slow things down, but it would work a lot more cleanly than it would with any other version of the game.

>>96904965
>>96905818
My LGS is within walking distance from my house, but both days they do YGO are interfered with by my work.

>>96904965
>>exclusively play duel links against the cpu
Hard to blame you. I'd rather not run against the newest bullshit skill Komoney wants to push. I run PVP with suicide decks just so I can get the event bonuses, and that's it.
I MAY play for reals with Monarchs soon, but shit's very hostile atm, whatnot with Rebecca FTKs, Super Poly free ticket, Brick Eyes free summon, etc, etc

>>96906553
I exclusively play Bastion Pikeru

>>96903011
is this trollop seriously holding his hand while saying that???

Any word on if Kewl Tune has been censored?

>>96904965
>3 different card shops within walking distance of me
>too poor to afford the entry fee, much less build a deck

>>96894859
We got the lists and the initial info graphic was incorrect, the Mimighoul Ninja deck didn't actually hit Top 8. Presumably it got 9th? Actual deck was Goblin Biker Radiant Typhoon. Both that deck and Onomat are mainly using it as a general utility engine for the handfixing/Allure effect (Visions), Rank 3 ability (only using Swen and Eldam to go into Totem Bird/Cicada King), and S/T removal (1 MST). Similar role to Speedroid engine (which is used in Mikanko Goblin Bikers) that exchanges taking up more space for greater versatility, and a slight price reduction. Mirage of Nightmare is notably only used in the Runick Radiant Typhoon build that goes all-in on the Radiant cards.

https://ygoprodeck.com/tournament/farfa-s-genesys-open-ii-3772

>>96906894
The most based guy on /tg/ right now. Konami, I couldn't give any less fucks about Water Dragon. Gimme fucking Pikeru and Curran support. Have Bastion embrace his forbidden cardfu
Or do that shit Ojamas have: Random synergy purely for anime purposes. Card Ejector is now a HERO card, so...

>>96907055
We don't have the TCG prints or previews yet so no idea at this time. We have the pack cover with half of the red one on it and it doesn't seem like it's been changed but I'd imagine that's not the one you're asking about...

>radiant typhoon became an engine abused by other decks
I expect points increase in December

>>96907277
>generaider nekroz
How does it work? Only by relying on Code Igniter?

>>96907504
My assumption is that rather than summoning their Ritual Monsters, it's being used as a R4NK engine in case you either can't go into your Generaider engine or if you happen to draw into a copy of Emilia and Brionac. Avance is a 1-card Stealth Kragen and Catastor can be used to put them back on the field. Two assumptions that I can make here,

>The Code Igniter line is being used for Cyberse Sage into Chorozo, where Chorozo can either be used defensively or to get over huge monsters (it can negate one of your own monsters' attack for a Banding effect)
>Utopic Zexal Future is in the deck for their 2nd or 3rd turn, since unless they draw a god hand they won't have the gas for it in one turn

>>96907504
My guess is has something to do with:
>2 Nekroz main deck bodies make Code Ignister
>Search Sage
>Detach Emilia to ritual Sage
>Sage fusion summon effect, using in GY Emilia and field Code Ignister to make Chozoro
>Chozoro + Sage = Ib

From what I understand, the deck is designed around 2x Enterblathnir to handrip for two, and then turn those into F0 for interaction.

>>96908065
Forgot to say, an Emilia search of Catastor would give a revive of a 4 via its effect and that plus Ib is a 9. If a 9 was sent for the ritual summon, you make Cloudcastle to revive it.

If you get a dream hand of a path to an Avance NS, any 9, and Monstrosity, then you can use Monstrosity at that time to get 2 more 9s, and that's 4 for Entrrblathnir. Similar thing if the 9 sent to grave was QQ Energon, though you need to use Cloudcastle to revive it, make 1 Enterblathnir, then use its effect for a second (though this locks you out of F0).

Thoughts on Brilliant Fusion engine for Super Quants?

>>96908207
If they have a consistent way to destroy Kragen with their own kit then they can do Code Igniter + Kragen, pop Kragen to summon 2 spawn, spawn into F0, and then Cyberse Sage to summon Chorozo. The two problems with that is that I don't know if their deck (or Generaider's kit in general) can self-pop like that, and it loops back to an earlier problem I mentioned about getting a god hand and probably being around for longer grinds. Chorozo OR Kragen seems most practical, not both.

I also just don't really think that mulching a Kragen to go into F0 would really be worth it? I think that Kragen's multiple points of interaction would probably be better in Genesys since that's at least 1 non-targeting destruction effect per turn, or 2 when Kragen gets revived by one of its spawn dying, and 4 total bodies to sandbag if you're in a pinch. Only reason I could think as to why you'd wanna do that is for F0's zero-tolerance targeting embargo being stronger than kragen's attribute modulation.

>>96908476
I feel like making Kragen is the going second/turn 3 plan for the Nekroz part of the deck, while the Code Igniter path is tuned for the Enterblathnir hand rip.

>>96908793
I could see it working both ways. It again depends on gamestate and matchup knowledge. For instance, if you're playing against a VoVo deck and go to game 2 knowing that you're going against a VoVo deck, having something that shuts off Barrier's LIGHT protection would go hard. Same if you're against a Crimson Resonator deck since those care about attributes on the field. Maybe it's also just their only option available and having 4 bodies to sandbag is just more valuable than having Chorozo on the field. Stuff you gotta assess on-the-fly and all that.

>posts dumb question
>leaves
>billion of replies
>>96907859
>>96908065
>>96908207
>>96908476
>>96908793
>>96909002
Thanks for taking your time to explain it to a retard, anons! I'm really grateful

i got called a chud today for pointing out how this dude wanted to cheat me
>dude bricks, sort of, just summons dark end and fuses LADDL
>aight my turn
>activate saffira
>"mandatory effect, negate and destroy"
>sure, i chain ghost ogre from my hand
>"umm okay? you monster gets negated and destroyed anyway"
>no it doesn't, this thing works exactly like apollousa, if it can't lose attack (because it's not on the field as it resolves) it can't negate effects, and it also doesn't destroy
>"judge!"
>i explain what just happened
>he agrees with me
>"what? that's not how the card works, i want another judge"
>(keep in mind that this is a friendly duel)
>judge entertains him, calls over another dude
>not only does he also agree with me, he demands that he read his card out loud, then posts in judge's lounge (he gets 2 answers in like 30 seconds)
>see? and where does it say "negate and destroy"?
>"unbelievable, you're all just picking on me because i'm a transgirl"
>"i can't believe this store allows such hateful people to frequent it"
>"you (ie me) have been giving me strange looks ever since i entered this store, i'm sure you're calling me all sorts of names in your head, you transphobic turd"
>???
>the dude didn't even seem like a tranny, just a disheveled long haired man
>owner gets involved and tells him to leave
>he storms off
>owner asks if i want to play a few matches with one of the employees, at least until someone else arrives (everyone's busy)
>sure
i just wanted to summon the funny 50 ATK girl...

>>96910792
>refuses to read their own card
>tries to steal the moral high ground when called out
>ragequits so hard that the employees took pity on you for the shit you just had to put up with
If this story isn't fake and additionally gay, I would like to extend my sincerest condolences for the things you need to put up with at your locals.

>>96910814
it's not, i wasn't rude with the dude, and the judges were also cordial until we were all called transphobic, again i didn't even know the dude was a tranny, hell i don't even mind how my opponents look, i just sit in their table if i notice they're alone and ask if they want to duel me

>>96910662
Best haircut in the entire series desu.

>>96910792
all true btw I was there and i saw the transformer freak have a melty and storm off like an autist lmao I then proceeded to fuck Anon in the ass with a mean Battery Men deck
good times

Seeing this image got me thinking, what would you consider the most complex or difficult gameplay mechanic to understand in YGO? Not just on a casual level but even for someone well versed in the game, since Spell Speed is fairly easy to wrap your head around.

>>96911072
>Picrel for fun
Spell Speed 3 effects (Counter Traps) can only be responded to by other Spell Speed 3 effects, and can be activated during the Damage Step.

>Most complex mechanic in general
It's pretty easily pendulum mechanics since even a lot of more experienced players will just flat-out refuse to learn them.

>>96911072
battle step

>>96910662
https://youtu.be/f-8mAnIkNhs?si=HYAn_QrAkhs5e6PS

>>96911072
Conjunctions. It's not terrible and people remember the general premise of them but at the same time many people seem to misremember them. Usually they mix up "then" and "also".
The other big one is summon response window, particularly with cards that insulate on summon like Branded Lost.

>>96911953
This is the correct answer. It can be broken down into several steps that happen in an instant with little to no interaction. And there are a lot of cards that use it as cover to force their effects through without fear of handtraps.

started maining 3x Ghost Belle in Advanced, what targets should I keep an eye out for? is there anything it doesn't hit that I might think it does?

>>96912797
Wait, so you're maining the card but you're not sure what you're trying to hit with it? Maybe take a step back first and ask that question before running the card in your main.
I'll teach a man to fish here with you. Go to a meta deck list and results aggregation website like yugiohmeta or ygoprodeck and look at their deck lists. From there you can determine what cards are being played and then form your staples list with it in mind. You'll also see what they're playing in order to play into such a meta too. All assuming the lists are public.
As an aside, we're still waiting for results after the recent "emergency" list they dropped so it's a bit up in the air at the moment without data from any big events yet.

>>96912797
While the decks not meta, against Lab this is a second copy of Ash for Big Welcome because it also pulls from grave.

>>96912893
>you're not sure what you're trying to hit with it

it's mostly to insulate myself from bystials and Called By because I need my gy but I was curious what I should prioritize

>>96913176
Against Odion, side it out. Doesn't stop anything relevant they do.

Preparing for my 3th genesys locals, I'm somewhat of a noob coming from edison so I could only win games against the kind of people insisting on playing ages old stuff because of probably larping in their head or something, that's fine and not the issue though, I'm learning every other week.

What I wanna ask anon, is that currently (since it was the easiest to assemble) I play blue-eyes but I'm kinda eyeing branded, white forest and fire kings too. Could you guys share a decklist for any of those if they are even viable? I'm getting kinda lost in all the variants with white forest for example.

Maybe I will just keep playing bewd though since at least I'm getting familiar with it by now and I can see what others play at my locals. (Last time I faced ryzeal, 2 resonator archfiend things, exosister, and a nurse gift burn deck, if you wanna know.)

>>96914364
If you wanna run Fire King then consider a Fire King Jurrac build.
>https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/fire-king-jurrac-genesys-649779
This one was before the Oct 2025 point update so you'll need to remove the Extravs in particular. But its gameplan is basically just to get Jurrac Astero in your GY (1 is fine but both is ideal) so that you can fire off Jurrac Meteor to boardwipe your opponent during their turn. Additionally to just do regular Fire King stuff. Without the Extravs, you have 20 points of dilly-dally to pad the deck out with whatever you need.

I don't personally run the build, but it's a tried-and-true brokie deck for Genesys. It also shouldn't be too hard for an Edison player to grasp since it doesn't do anything too excessive.

>>96914619
>Without the Extravs, you have 20 points of dilly-dally to pad the deck out with whatever you need.
My bad. I was looking at the list on my smaller monitor and didn't see all the points here. It's 145 with the Extravs and 115 without them, so you'll need to do quite a bit more tweaking to get it proper. I've seen some people do it with Dinosaur stuff.

Semi-new to modern Yugioh (TL;DR oldfag that played semi-competitively 20 years ago, also played a lot of MTG and hearthstone over the years). Relearning the game and trying to teach my friend IRL who is brand new to TCGs and it was going well at first when I explained all the basic mechanics and we used my old ass zombie and armed dragon decks (both probably GOAT legal).
After a few days of that I explained most of the new mechanics (I skipped explaining pendulums lmao) and he found it incredibly overwhelming. I built myself a branded despia deck with 3 of the new structure decks, and him a blue eyes deck with 3 of the blue eyes white destiny deck and he seems blackpilled on how complicated it is. He wrote out a few lists of instructions to remember his basic combos which I was proud of him for doing, but now it doesn't seem to have any motivation to memorize them or seem to have any interest in the game anymore except when I initiate. I saw online a lot of recommendations for blue eyes for beginners but I still feel like I just plucked him out of the kiddie pool and threw him into the ocean and killed his interest in the game. I didn't go easy on him at all with the boomer decks and he enjoyed that and was even able to take a couple games off me, but with the new decks I just pound him into the dirt effortlessly unless he gets ash in starting hand and my hand is too bricky to play around it. Now that I learned branded, blue eyes seems dead simple to me but maybe there is a better option that's even simpler but still playable? I'm throwing together a cheap casual deck for myself (livetwin) since our games are currently one sided as shit, but I'm wondering if there's an even easier deck for him to use he can have fun with that hopefully won't rape my wallet. What do?

>>96915130
Find a deck that he gels with aesthetically. People are more willing to learn how to play a deck if they like the aesthetics.

>>96915130
The only modernish deck that I can think of that's simpler than BE is Swordsoul, but that deck is very bad in TCG in particular due to the banlist. If he actually wants to learn the game you should have him build BE in master duel.

>>96914364
I'd reccommend sticking with Blue-Eyes for at least a couple more events before switching. Because you are getting familiar with the deck, you'll be able to dedicate more attention to how other people are playing their decks than you could when just learning your own. Especially if you recognize the general design space cards can occupy (ex. Starter, Extenders, etc) and how different interaction can disrupt it, and how to bait out interaction via the order you play your cards.

This game sense is very useful to learn, but there's really no good tutorials out there to do so, which means you have to learn by doing. And if you are doing that, you needing to figure out the deck you are playing can easily eat up your focus.

>>96914660
Thanks I will check it out. Seems like most people ditch the rescue-ace cards too.

>>96915324
Yeah I'm mostly just eyeing where to go eventually, but you are most probably right since people still taught me stuff at the last event about my own deck I'm supposed to know at the very least. There's so much going on with these dense cards that sometimes it feels like it doesn't even mean much that I'm kind of familiar with edison. This format is more fun than I thought it would be though.

>>96910814
These people actually exist. Unfortunately.
t. judge (not from anon's story)

>>96915294
Dracotail is very easy to play.

>>96915130
With no TCG experience he may just need to find decks or cards he likes.
Don't even start with 'meta' decks if he can't grasp some more basic concepts.
Theres a reason the anime decks and structure ones are more 'basic' for children to actually understand.
Let him pick his own cards and realize basics then how lines can go, instead of throwing him an 'optimized' plan to memorize lines for instead of naturally learning gamestates.

>>96915130
So rather than a deck for learning, you want to build him a helmet deck that can squeak out easy wins?

If you're willing to play with a different banlist, use the DIFO cardpool and put him on Swordsoul with the 2021 banlist in effect.
If you're willing to compromise your friendship, put a Runick deck in his hands. You said you've played a lot of MtG over the years, that's basically just the closest parallel to a Blue cunt deck that we have in this game. You will probably tarnish your friendship forever afterwards, especially if you make the mistake of putting a Stun variant in his hands.
If you're willing to try out something a little different, try Kashtira Regenesis. It's a braindead stupid deck that farts out monsters like you've been eating nothing but beans for days and can very easily become overwhelming for you if they get their footing.

If you're willing to try a different format entirely, look up Genesys decklists since that cuts out Pendulum and Link monsters, which might make it easier for him to catch on. Dogmatika Regenesis would be my recommendation for your friend if you go that route.

heh

Look at Pikeru.

>>96918346
okay, now what?

>>96918401
Congratulations. You are now filled with glee.

31 year old boomer here. I love the Speed Duel format; the card pool, the rules, the strategies. This is pure YGO. It’s like GOAT without the tournament-style strategy. It reminds me of dueling when I was in elementary school. I fell for the nostalgia bait, and I’m not even mad. Only thing is I’d keep the LP at 8000. Sometimes the duels are TOO short. Plus the print/card quality is top tier. Hopefully they decide to make more sets.

>>96918938
>child
I will now play your format.

>>96915130
If you are willing to use YGO Omega or one of the other fansims, this Odion deck, maybe replacing the Small Worlds with a third Apophis and second Anguish pattern, as well as fixing the D. Barrier in the side, could be a good one for them to get a feel without overwhelming them with combos on their end, as it's pretty much find a way to get Man with the Mark and the field spell on your field, then setup your traps and prepare handtraps.

https://ygoprodeck.com/deck/odion-581191

It is unfortunately a somewhat pricey deck in paper. Nixing the Purulias and side deck can save you like $40, but that's still gonna be a good $250 if you are buying from scratch.

Bit of a shame, because it covers a good low to the ground, short combo spot without being stun and still being good.

>>96916614
Dracotail has like a million possible variants. It can be as simple or complex as you want to make it.

>>96918938
Should also be noted that if you ever do get into GOAT or Edison, many of those cards will still be useful.

>>96919103
I'm surprised the secret Dracotail Flame Swordsman meta still hasn't caught on yet

>>96915130
The starter deck set is actually very useful (and only like $12). I’m new to modern YGO and it really helped me learn Synchro and XYZ. You should play the scripted match with him as presented in the booklet, and once he learns it that way you can play some unscripted matches with him with the same starter decks. Then once he’s comfortable with those decks, bring him back to the decks you originally had planned for him.

>>96918976
Cool I never knew about this card.

>>96919403
If you want a deck for learning the game then you'd be better off picking up a deck that does the things that specialize in what you want to learn than picking up this horrible product. The scripted duel is not good because fundamentally the decks are not good, and don't work as soon as you shuffle the decks to break out of the unscripted duel (which by the way doesn't come with a guide for re-ordering the decks so you can run it back).

This guy's saying that the set is 12 bucks. For 20 bucks you could build a Traptrix or Virtual World deck, which I've used to teach new players the respective summoning mechanics they include and specialize in. Xyz/Link Summoning for Traptrix, with Clear Wing Synchro Dragon tossed into the ED just to cover that base, and Xyz/Synchro for Virtual World. Both of those include Tribute Summoning, if you're using the structure deck in the case of Traptrix. A new player can learn those builds and either coast off of them for a little while so they can build a little bit of confidence in themselves while playing the game, and either improve those builds or move onto functionally similar decks. Some of it might go over their heads, but that's fine as long as you're not throwing the guy to the wolves and helping him understand his deck *before* doing your duels.

What am I trying to say here? You'd be better off doing literally anything other than buying the horrible 2P starter set. With the sole exception of AA-Zeus, the cards included have 0 gameplay value and don't actually teach you much of anything. If you want hypercasual decks then you get a Speed Duel box, if you want simple learning decks you just ask around and see what's good for the purpose of learning. I will swear by Virtual World as a learner deck because when you build it pure (NOT one of its crazy variants), it's a relatively easy deck to pilot with the only hangup for a new player being that they need to learn concepts like deck thinning and GY setup.

>>96921545
Let's say that you have something as mind-numbingly simple as this VW build for instance. You DON'T start them off with a duel and just run down the basic summoning mechanics first.

>Normal Summon, using any of the low-level Virtual World monsters
>Tribute Summon, using Laolao or Lili.
Explain to them that this isn't the optimal way to summon them, but that it's how it works for Level 5+ monsters
>This segues into Special Summoning for this particular deck.
Perform the procedure for Special Summoning Lili or Laolao using the monster you Normal Summoned as a target for their effect. This is also a good time to explain to them that most modern archetypes have an archetype-specific format to their cards, where they typically have common functionality (in this case, the Virtual World SS effect)

If you want to, bring a copy of Cyber Dragon here to explain Special Summoning by card effect and Special Summoning by Summoning Condition, where the former activates an effect but the latter doesn't.

>Xyz Summoning
Do this BEFORE Synchro summoning. Bring attention to the listed summoning materials on the card and note that MOST Extra Deck monsters have these listed at the top of their effect boxes.

Use 3 of the Level 3 monsters for this. Jaja requires 2+ Level 3 monsters for its summon, so you perform an Xyz Summon using two of them, revert the game state, then Xyz summon using all three of them.

>Synchro Summoning
We did a lot of the heavy lifting in the previous step, so all you need to explain to them here is point out the summoning condition and explain what a Tuner monster is.

Put Lulu, Jiji, Lili, Nyannyan, and Laolao on the board (All 5 of your Virtual World monsters). Perform the Synchro Summoning procedure for Final Sigma, using any CORRECT combination of those monsters, (Lulu + Nyannyan + Lili, Laolao + Lili, etc) and make emphasis on the fact that Final Sigma only allows you to use 1 Tuner monster, but any number of non-Tuners.

>>96921712
After getting the absolute basics for Summoning Mechanics out of the way, I'll typically move on to constructing simple plays for them. I'm assuming that your friend understands how Spell/Traps work for this part, but in the case of teaching a new player fresh-off-the-boat, I take a moment to run those by them.

>Starting hand: Lulu, Nyannyan, Three unimportant cards

>Normal Summon Nyannyan
>Activate Lulu's effect in-hand, targeting Nyannyan and dumping Qinglong from the Deck to search Chuche
>Qinglong effect in the GY, banishing it to search for Jiji
>Activate Jiji's effect in-hand, targeting Nyannyan and dumping Xuanwu to summon itself
>Summon Shenshen using all 3 monsters on the field

This of course is not an optimal play. The point is not to show them optimal plays, just how they work when the cards are in motion. Show them how the cards work in motion, BEFORE entering a duel.

Anyway, next play

>Starting hand: Kauwloon, Lulu, Three unimportant cards

>Activate Kauwloon, placing Chuche face-up on the field
>Lulu effect, targeting Chuche and dumping Qinglong to search for Laolao
>Qinglong effect in the GY to search for Jiji
>Jiji effect, targeting Chuche and dumping Nyannyan to summon itself
>Synchro Summon Stardust Charge Warrior, drawing 1 card

This is where you might want to simplify the play a little bit if it starts going over their head.
>Laolao effect in-hand, targeting Chuche and dumping a Spell to revive Jiji
>Nyannyan trigger, summoning herself from the GY as a Tuner
>Xyz Summon Fanfan, using Laolao and Stardust Charge Warrior as material
>Xyz Summon Longlong, using Nyannyan and Jiji as material

Again: Suboptimal play, but we're just showing them the cards in motion. They might get the idea in their head that the game is nothing but flowcharts, which is why we are intentionally teaching them suboptimal routes, and also emphasizing that fact. It's about what they *can* do at this stage, not what they *should* do.

I have written a packfiller CaC.

Synchro Sabotage
>[Level 1/DARK/Fiend]
>[ATK 0/DEF 0]
During your Main Phase, or your opponent's Battle Phase (Quick Effect): Flip a coin. If the result is Heads, give control of this card to your opponent. If a coin toss is performed, and you control 2 or monsters, activate this effect: Immediately after this effect resolves, you can Synchro Summon using this card you control. If you do not, take 1200 damage, also, draw 1 card. You can only use each effect of "Synchro Sabotage" once per turn.

>50/50 chance to make either player synchro summon or take 1200 damage
>The subsequent effect activation is mandatory, but the Synchro Summon is optional.
>Against non-synchro decks, it is a free body and draw at the cost of 1200 damage

Yugioh needs more gothic lolita.

>>96923184
I want to give her a loving home.

>>96923229
you'll having to deal with her family

With the new support, is Tri brigade still a pet deck?

>>96912797
why are you including handtraps in your deck if you don't even know what the hell you're countering with them?

belle right now can shut down the izuna into ripper/nasch play, there are many other interactions she can stop, but i'd say this is the most important one right now

https://kemono.cr/fanbox/user/15799046/post/10852291
Aki, Anzu, and Asuka partially silhouetted sex

>spectate random Genesys duel on YGO Omega
>banished Crystal Girl
>Nopenguin on top of the GY
>Ravenous Crocodragon, Lappis Dragon, Glacial Beast Polar Penguin, and Icejade Gymir Aegirine on-field
>Opponent is on Radiant Typhoon and getting his ass kicked, also he's bald
I fucking love Genesys format

>>96926974
>it was Umi Stun (the only acceptable Stun deck) in the end
wewlads

>>96922579
Yes

Insane cards but for one of the worst archetypes in the game. I would be hard pressed to say they don't deserve it though. Took konami long enough to give them anything of value.
Lyna and Sharc erasure continues. Give them a chance konami, being a lyna-fag is suffering.

Just bought 3 Blue Eyes structure decks. How the fuck do I play this game?
>t MtGfag

>>96928949
Maybe you should have tried it out before buying anything?

>>96928995
>try out the game with no cards

>>96928949
there are so many free sims you could have tried before purchasing anything, including Master Duel if you only do official sims
structure decks come with a rule book, read it

>>96929011
You are trying to be funny but we printed black and white proxies and sleeved them in front of MtG lands the first time a friend showed me YGO.

Really don't know what to tell you without a specific question. You expect us to copy-paste the rulebook?

>>96928949
Rather than be useless like the other two I'll give you an actual answer.
Youtube tutorials are good to get the very basics down like phases, 1 normal summon per turn, conditions to playing cards (IE traps need to be set face down first and then become active after that turn)
After that I would recommend looking into some of the secondary core mechanics like extra deck summoning methods. At the vrey least fusion, synchro, xyz, and link. Pendulum is around but rare so you can hold off on it until you've gotten a good grasp on the other stuff.
Then the deeper stuff like spell speed, card text syntax (problem solving card text/PSCT), conjnctions, and timing (ifs vs whens, "missing the timing" is a spook at this point in the game).
This sounds like a lot but this is about the same amount of info as trying to teach someone EDH from scratch IMO.

Biggest changes from MTG
-Combat/battles are very different as well as stats. It's more attacker friendly and you do each attack one at a time. Pro tip: most people refer to stats shorthand like 2500 is often "25 hundred" or just "25". It's a jap card game, they love needless 0s.
-Near all ACTIVATED/ignition effects are sorcery speed (spell speed 1) rather than instant speed (spell speed 2). Traps, quick play spells, and quick effects are all SS2. Trigger effects are kind of spell speed 2 because they react to stuff.
-The stack/chain in ygo is insulated while resolving. You cannot add more to the chain once both players elect not to add more to the top of the chain and you resolve it entirely in reverse order (make the chain 1, 2, 3 then resolve it 3, 2, 1. First in, last out.)

Deck building is it's own skill but the broad strokes are: If a card is good play it at 3x (max copies in ygo), if a card is needed once like a trap you search at the end of your play then you run it at 1x, 2x is rare and you better have a real strong reason for such.
THE EXTRA DECK IS THE CORE OF THE GAME, THE MAIN DECK MONSTERS ARE FODDER.

>>96928949
Try to copy your real deck on Master Duel and practice online

>>96928949
Buy 3 of the new Branded deck/

>>96929241
short cont.
There's a bit of fan lingo in the game but not exactly like how mtg does it. We try to refer to the action itself rather than a famous card that does the action unless comparing it to another card or it's a compound concept.
Some common ones
Bounce = send to hand/extra deck
Spin = send to deck/extra
Pop = destroy
Push = move to back row (think removal like turning a creature into an artifact token)
Dump = sends from deck/extra/hand to GY
One big one is that we don't call things tutors in reference to a card(s), we just say the action search[er].

EG Someone might refer to a card to be "a compulse" but usually that's because they're trying to describe it as "a spell speed 2 bounce".
It's not a hard rule but if you watch tutorial or replay where they use lingo this might be helpful to know.

>>96928949
Read the manual or play one of the official or unofficial digital sims. We could bombard you with walls of text, or you could just use some of the tools at everyones' disposal to learn.

Scroll up to the OP and read it.
Watch people actually play the game.
Look up Youtube guides on how to pilot your specific deck
Watch people actually play the game.
Did I forget to mention, as a new player, that you should watch people actually play the game?

GX episode 141 is very good.

New legendary set looks good.

>>96930969
I am tired of Raye.

>>96930969
Ah, so Habakiri is only getting limited, shame.

>>96930969
This comes out next year, what are the odds this doesn't have zero nor lemnisgate? It's only advertising amatsu and the two manga cards we still don't have.
>why does it matter
I want to know so i can buy my copies of those cards in advance, i can get 2 of each right now for less than $50, whereas a year from now on i'll be paying $40+ per copy because they were the few cards they didn't reprint. Also lol at x-saber getting shoved in this shit, they knew how worthless the support was and rather than shitting up next year's battles set, they shoved it in here because people will absolutely buy the box for raye and mitsubishi.

>>96931813
It will probably will have it. If the 5Ds ones are anything to go off there will probably be support in the main sets for one of the decks in order to shill those products. They do it for just about every single one of these structure decks. IE black rose's got shafted as the cards that would actually matter are in the main set while the other two did just fine and just about everything is there. Branded getting critical cards in an upcoming core set and we have the structure deck.
It's all pretty par for the course with how they handle structure decks in the last several years.
The prayer I would be making is not that the cards are in the deck but rather they don't put something absurd that you desire more in a product following the release.

We know the new Charmer cards now.

https://ygorganization.com/kazenofantasia/

大輪の霊使い Tairin no Reitsukai (Charmers of the Grand Circle)
Level 6 LIGHT Spellcaster Fusion Effect Monster
ATK 1850
DEF 1500
Materials: 2+ “Charmer” and/or “Familiar-Possessed” monsters
You can only use the effect of this card’s name once per turn.
(1) If this card is Fusion Summoned: You can choose among these effects a number of times up to the number of original Attributes among its material (max. 4) and apply them in sequence (you can choose the same effect multiple times)
● This card gains 800 ATK.
● Add 1 “Possessed” Spell/Trap from the Deck to the hand.
● Return 1 card on the field to the hand
● Special Summon 1 Spellcaster monster from the GY.

大輪の魔導書 Tairin no Madousho (Spellbook of the Grand Circle)
Normal Spell Card
You can only use the (1) and (2) effects of this card’s name once per turn each.
(1) Add 4 “Charmer” monsters with different Attributes from your Deck, GY and/or banishment to your hand, then return 2 cards from your hand to your Deck.
(2) You can banish this card from your GY; Fusion Summon 1 Fusion Monster using “Charmer” and/or “Familiar-Possessed” monsters from your hand or field. Your opponent cannot activate cards or effects when that monster is Fusion Summoned.

>>96936849
These are Artmage cards in disguise. Or any deck that can swarm the field with various elements to go into the Link charmers and Fusion Summon (bonus point if they're Spellcasters)

>>96930969
This was almost a DPB lmao, instead of x-saber it should have been the new misawa cards.

>>96936849
Do we know the new alts yet?

>>96918938
They should have introduced it to Master Duel to keep it alive. It's hard to get into without that kind of visibility.
>Nostalgia bait
It is, but let's be real: that's when YGO was at its height and arguably its best anyway. I don't think they've handled Speed Duel very well but the modern game is so off-putting to a lot of people it's not hard to argue for its existence. I don't care for the anime-wank Skill cards but it's a solid time otherwise.

>>96938759
Peak popularity yes, peak quality not so much

>>96862352 (OP)
funny realization that I had today, in spite being a pretty iconic type, Dinosaur is the third rarest type among the original 21(with only Thunder and Sea Serpent having less), and if we include all TCG/OCG Types(besides obviously Divine Beast or Creator God) it's still the fifth rarest(with Wyrm* being tied with Sea Serpent for second place and Illusion currently being the rarest type**)

*which to me at least proves how worthless of an addition Wyrm as a type is(like Sea Serpent is also a pretty redundant type that barely ever gets used but at least it has the excuse/justification that it's been around since the beginning, and ties into the "tier" thing that the very earliest days of the game had going on with certain monster types and how they related to each other)

**though I doubt Illusion will stay there for long, it being at the bottom is just because of how new it is

>>96938801
It was better than it is now.

YGO noob here.
I’m trying to understand the difference between “if” and “when” effects.
As far as I understand, a “when” effect means you must activate the effect immediately when the event occurs (as part of the same chain, even?). So, it would need to acquiesce to the chain’s existing spell speed. So if it lacks the (quick effect) rule, you could not chain a “when” trigger against anything with spell speed 2 or higher. Eg:
>Opponent activates a trap card: “Destroy a monster”
>My Monster: “When sent to grave: do X”
>Trap is SS2, my “when” is only SS1, therefore it cannot be used
Meanwhile if he used a monster/spell effect (SS1), the “when” effect could chain and trigger.

And then there is the “if” effect, which confuses me alot. Does it trigger just like the “when”, but start a new chain (eg you can only use it once, but you can ignore spell speed).
>So in the above example, an “if” would trigger regardless of spell speed

Or is “if” an unlock condition, aka as long as you have achieved “if”, you may use the following effect (but still according to normal effect rules, e.g. non-quick effect ONLY on your own turn). And you could therefore activate the effect again and again in subsequent turns, as long as the initial “if” condition holds/held true.
>example: “If this card is normal summoned: You may draw one card. Only once per turn.”
So in this example, would this let me draw one card every turn (and even once during my opponents turn if there were a (quick effect) after the “if:”). Or do I only draw once, immediately after the normal summon?

>>96942197
>And then there is the “if” effect, which confuses me alot. Does it trigger just like the “when”, but start a new chain (eg you can only use it once, but you can ignore spell speed).
>Or is “if” an unlock condition, aka as long as you have achieved “if”, you may use the following effect (but still according to normal effect rules, e.g. non-quick effect ONLY on your own turn).
>And you could therefore activate the effect again and again in subsequent turns, as long as the initial “if” condition holds/held true.
This is not the case. A small number of cards in the game will remember if an activation condition has been met throughout the entire turn, but cards will not do so by default.

Relevant text for Kashtira Fenrir,
>(...)or if your opponent activates a monster effect (except during the Damage Step): You can target 1 face-up card your opponent controls; banish it, face-down.
This can only be activated in the following chain in response to the effect activation, and not any changes after it. The activation condition needs to be met again in order for you to be able to use it.

Relevant text for Surfacing Big Jaws,
>During your Main Phase, if a Spell Card was activated this turn: You can Special Summon this card from your hand
This condition applies throughout the entire turn, as the text would imply. But this is a hard once-per-turn effect, so you can only use this effect once per turn.

>>96942653
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>>Opponent activates a trap card: “Destroy a monster”
>>My Monster: “When sent to grave: do X”
>>Trap is SS2, my “when” is only SS1, therefore it cannot be used
The activation condition for your monster's floating effect is still met, so as long as the last thing to occur in the chain is the monster being sent to the GY, you can activate the effect. Spell Speed doesn't affect this.

>I control Launcher Spider and Peten the Dark Clown
>Peten's relevant effect,
(When this card is sent to the GY: You can banish this card from your GY; Special Summon 1 "Peten the Dark Clown" from your hand or Deck.)
>I activate High Tide on Fire Island. Relevant text,
(●FIRE: Destroy 1 monster on the field, then if you have any cards in your hand, discard 1 card to the Graveyard.)
>I destroy Peten the Dark Clown, then discard 1 card
>The last thing to occur in the chain was the discard (it does not happen simultaneously)("and if you do"/"also"), therefore Peten the Dark Clown's following effect cannot activate

On the contrary,
>Similar setup; I have a Set Torrential Tribute that can be activated this turn
>I Normal Summon Peten
>I activate Torrential Tribute in response to Peten's summon and destroy all monsters on the field
>The last thing to occur was Peten being sent to the GY (simultaneously with all other monsters on the field)
>Peten's effect can activate.

Also, this is a minor thing that applies to older cards for the most part; If a card says "When <x>: do <y>", those are mandatory. Those get errata'd to "If <x>: do <y>" in the modern day. That would normally read "When <x>: you can do <y>"

>>96942653
One last thing; People tell you to learn how Timing works, but they NEVER tell you to learn how priority works. You want to learn how Priority works. It's what makes timing make sense.
>https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Priority
tl;dr

>Open Game State
>Turn player has priority to activate any number of their Spell Speed 1 effects (1 Ignition effect, or multiple Trigger effects)
>Priority is passed to the opponent. They can activate their Spell Speed 1 effects. If they have none, they retain priority and are allowed to activate Spell Speed 2 effects
>Priority is passed back-and-forth between the players for Spell Speed 2 effects

So for instance,
>I Pendulum Summon Fallen of Albaz and Aluber, the Jester of Despia
(This isn't nonsensical like the last example, it comes up in Branded Predaplant)
>CL1 I activate Aluber's effect to search for Branded Fusion
>CL2 I activate Fallen of Albaz's effect, discarding 1 card to perform a Fusion Summon
This is something that people call "Chain blocking". Because the last thing to occur was Albaz's effect, my opponent cannot chain Ash Blossom to negate Aluber's search.

During my turn, after activating a "Runick" Quickplay Spell
>CL1 I activate Runick Fountain's effect, targeting 3 Runick Spells in my GY
>CL2 my opponent chains Kashtira Birth's effect, targeting 3 Spells in my GY
Both of these effects are Trigger effects. I cannot retroactively activate Runick Fountain after my opponent activates Kashtira Birth during my turn. The inverse is the case during their turn.

>>96862352 (OP)
If i where to use a sharpie to highlight the actual cost and effect part of a card like in picrel would that be allowed in offical play?
I think it would greatly improve the readability of a card if you have to deal with a hundred different cards you never seen before with a bunch of text on it

>>96942653
>>96942667
>>96942736
Thanks a lot man, this really helped clear it up for me. The priority/chainlink blocking is very interesting, I didnt even know you could do that.

>>96943679
>https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/downloads/penalty_guide/YGOTCG_Tournament_Policy_v_2_5.pdf

You'd wanna look at section IX-J for Altered Cards.
>Cards with surface decoration that obscures any portion of the card text or key card traits (Card Text, Level, Monster Type, ATK, DEF, etc.) are not legal for tournament play.
Highlighting the text *might* fall under the above criteria, but you'd need to ask your head judge about it. AFAIK it's not really a problem in smaller events. I would recommend using an inner sleeve and marking that instead of highlighting the card directly if you wanna go that route though, because if the head judge blocks it then you can just take out the inner sleeves.

Just started playing and picked up the Blue Eyes structures. Has anybody got a link so I can Legally Obtain that giant-ass combo spreadsheet that nerd did? Coming from other card games, its wild to me that Konami imagined a convoluted combo deck would be the jumping on point for a beginner.

>>96946618
>Blue Eyes
>convoluted
Pure BE is very streamlined and all your Normal Summons lead to the same combo with very little variation, it only gets a little complicated when you add a secondary engine into the deck.

>>96943785
>Cards that have been altered from their original manufactured version with surface decoration added by the consumer
may be used for tournament play ONLY if they do not violate any of the following rules.
>These rules apply to all cards in the Deck, including Main, Side, and Extra.
>Cards that have been modified (by adding or subtracting foil, layers of paper, etc.) from the originally
manufactured version of the card are not legal for tournament play.
>Cards with surface decoration which makes the card or card image unrecognizable are not legal for tournament
play.
>Cards with surface decoration which alters the thickness or texture of the card are not legal for tournament play.
>Cards with surface decoration that obscures any portion of the card text or key card traits (Card Text, Level,
Monster Type, ATK, DEF, etc.) are not legal for tournament play.
>Cards with surface decoration expanding the illustration beyond the illustration box are not legal for tournament
play.
>Cards with surface decoration that may be considered offensive are not legal for tournament play.
>Cards with surface decoration that makes the card distinguishable from other cards in the Deck while face-down
are considered marked, and not legal for tournament play.
>Cards with alterations of any kind, front or back, are not legal for Tier 4 tournaments (the Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG World
Championship)
i guess it depends whether it would count as obscuring the effect text
its still perfectly readable so it should be no problem