Thread 96896564

Welcome to the Old School Renaissance General, the thread dedicated to TSR-era D&D, derived systems, and compatible content.

Broadly, OSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to early Dungeons & Dragons - less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching meta-plots and a greater emphasis on player agency.

If you are new to the OSR, welcome! Ask us whatever you're curious about. We'll be happy to help you get started on this playstyle.

>Troves, Resources, Blogs, etc:
http://pastebin.com/9fzM6128

>Need a starter dungeon? Here's a curated collection:
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/80674659/#80722465

>Previous thread:
>>96881801

>Thread Question:
What's your favorite "best for your buck" homerule?

>PCs clear dungeons and get loot
>players learn the gameplay loop
>adventure continues until either TPK or players get tired of the gameplay loop
Are there any other end results to a campaign?
I'm thinking about domain/war game play, but haven't decided on the system yet.

A bit late to be posting a troll OP given that the real one's already been up since yesterday:
>>96892196
>>96892196
>>96892196
>>96892196

>>96896564 (OP)
>What's your favorite "best for your buck" homerule?
group initiative hands down
>>96896623
are you referring to the /trollBrOSRg/?
that's a separate thing

>>96896660
>NOOOO!!111
>I'M SPENDING SO MUCH TIME PURPOSEFULLY SHITTING UP THE THREAD
>HOW LONG ARE YOU INTENDING TO KEEP THIS UP FOR
gonna cry?
GOOD.

it takes more effort for you to shit up threads than it is for anons to ignore you

>>96896618
You're supposed to retire adventures and pass on their stuff to successors and create whole lineages. Once you figure out one class, you gotta play through them all.

>>96896946
>it takes more effort
There's zero effort when someone is doing something they love, and that miserable vermin obviously has absolutely nothing he loves in life except trolling /osrg/.

A guy I was playing with started calling the guy playing the thief "Blue Falcon" after he pocketed some gold. I later find out that it's some slang for "buddy fucker" and he was trying to be real mean about it and the rest of the group didn't really get what he was doing. I'm now gonna have to talk to him about it like he's a schoolboy.

>>96897329
>I later find out that it's some slang for "buddy fucker"
Sounds like my type. Can I join your next session?

>>96897329
Not the weirdest slang I've ever heard.

Guy would call any character not playing fighter "peaches."

Peach this, Peach that. Stand back, peaches.

It's because they're soft and bruise easy.

>>96896618
How do you get tired of going into dungeons?
There's infinite possibilities in them.
There's guys who've been playing since the 70s who still can't get enough of dungeons.

>>96897399
I do bruise easily, I'm delicate like a flower. But you can bruise my peach any time you want, stud.

>>96897329
>I later find out that it's some slang for "buddy fucker"
I mean, is he wrong? The dude stole from the rest of the team. Consider the nasty nickname his payment.
Personally I'd have drilled through his knee caps and sold him to the nearest orc as a sex toy as a matter of principle. But that's just me.

>>96897518
>Personally I'd have drilled through his knee caps and sold him to the nearest orc as a sex toy
OHMYGAWD DO ME NEXT
DO ME NEXT

>>96897518
>sold him to the nearest orc as a sex toy
Oof what a stud thread you guys are on FIRE

>>96897536
Get in line, hoe. I was here first.

>>96897524
>>96897536
As someone who despises Fishfag and all his perfidious works?
Have a little more self-respect and stop behaving like this. All it does is give him an excuse to keep claiming he's totes being persecuted by a small, deranged minority rather than everyone he meets coming to the natural and organic conclusion that he's a bag of cocks.

>>96897536
Don't worry QUEEN it sounds like there's enough STUDS here for the both of us. Do you think it's just one person samefagging?

>>96897518
You can't hate a guy for playing his class.

>>96897547
I don't know, but if he's just one STUD he totally has enough energy to ravage us both, SISTER.

>>96897552
Know what, reading back over it I just realized he pocketed some gold.
I read it as "He pocketed some gold (From the party)"
Until we know who he pocketed it from I can't confirm or deny if he deserves to be gangbanged by gnolls.
Because stealing from other people: Fine-ish.
Stealing from the party: Oh no you don't you little shit.

>>96897545
Huh? This is the fishfagging thread. If you want a serious thread for actual discussion you have ample choice between fist decade /osrg/, /nusrg/, and /2eg/. Join the party or fuck off.

>>96897568
>he deserves to be gangbanged by gnolls
Aww stop it you're flattering me!

>>96897569
Yeah and leave him to seethe in his retard containment chamber. All you're doing is giving him an excuse to go roving around the board at large rather than sitting in here, shitting, seething and samefagging.

Let me put it this way, do you want him here, or do you want him fucking everywhere?
Because those are your two options.

>>96897572
Such HAWT MALE energy on this thread, SISTERS.

>>96897569
>This is the fishfagging thread.
Hold on y'all, THERE'S A THREAD FOR GAY FISH? Where my homo homies at?

>>96897590
I'm not a homo, I'm a girlie mermaid.

>>96897596
Prove it to me. What AD&D 2e book has a mermaid playable race?

>>96897598
I don't know, I don't actually read the Rulebooks. All I need are my fabulous dungeon MASTER and my inextinguishable FANTASIES and I can role play ANYTHING you want me to.

>>96897613
I don't believe you. Show me your character sheet.

>>96897616
You show me yours I'll show you mine.

>>96897568
The thief found some coins when apart from the party and pocketed them without telling anyone he had found them. I think it was forty.
The guy who started calling the thief "Blue Falcon" actually wasn't even supposed to know the thief had done that, now that I think about it.

>>96897623
Naughty! Can you TAKE it?

>>96897625
And then what happened? Did he get gangbanged by gnolls? Did he get sold as a sex toy to orcs?

>>96897632
>Did he get gangbanged by gnolls? Did he get sold as a sex toy to orcs?
With those fantasies how can he deny that he's a fishfag. That's the most homo shit I've ever heard.

>>96897418
Ennui happens.

>>96897645
>That's the most homo shit I've ever heard.
LMAO the Anon posting trans hippo images got nothing compared to the actual homosexual rape fantasies these 2e faggots harbour.

>>96896946
>>96897311
At the pace he's going, there's actually a chance he'll have a heart attack.
Fingers crossed.

>>96897654
Gayest shit I've ever read. Trust me, I'm a proud faggot in real life. Somebody who comes up with those orc/gnoll rape fantasies is secretly thisting to suck some cock. And I'm sure he'd be great at it. Such a waste.

Go out and suck some cock, fishfag. You need to touch meat.

>>96897668
I'll die happy surrounded by studs, sucking them off one by one under the table while they play RPGs. Except I'm actually safe because these faggots neither play nor have their cocks sucked.

God I love this general. Thanks to the guy who created it. Best thread on the board.

What did your players steal from a dungeon that made you finally make the switch away from XP for gold and embrace the enlightened 2e XP rules?

My players stole doorknobs ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

>>96897722
Are you me? One of my players researched a variant of Floating Disk that was specialized for doorknobs. In addition to carrying them, it also polished them. And extra capacity because of the specialisation while staying a first level spell. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.

>>96897743
People underestimate how much the doorknob stealing business affected early D&D. One of the core design goals of AD&D 2e was to fix that issue. Thank god it finally came along because until it was published I felt I didn't have the right to stop giving out XP for god.

>>96897750
Yeah stealing doorknobs was the 1e metaplot. Crazy that those purity spiral faggots deny it.

>>96897763
Did Hackmaster, the first OSR game, fix the doorknob stealing issue?

>>96897769
Yeah it did.

>>96897775
No it didn't.

>>96897778
It did

>>96897782
No it didn't. Prove it, give me the page number

>>96897786
What? You give me the page number

>>96897793
You can't prove a negative

>>96897797
It's not a negative

>>96897803
>It's not a negative
Careful with those double negatives, buddy.

>>96897809
Is neither a negative nor a double negative, and I'm not your buddy, mate.

>>96897818
Yes it is, and that's a triple negative.

>>96897824
You can't add negatives on the opposite sides of a disjunction.

>>96897836
That's a conjunction, not a disjunction.

>>96897836
I think it might actually be an adversative.

>>96897848
Stop it with that autistic talk. You sound like an ACKShill.

>>96897854
How DARE you

>>96897857
How dare YOU

>>96897865
Leave Greta alone you BrOSR chud

>>96897882
How DARE you call me a chud.

>all that gay hippo AI spam
lmao
that schizo is salty people are not just rolling over to crown him the king of narrative control of whatever can be called OSR isn't he?

just report and walk by

>>96897890
Leave. Greta. Alone. You NAZI

>>96897896
I hate him. This thread was going so well until he came along. Such good discussion was being had.

>>96897929
Yeah he's single-handedly destroying this general. Who would do that?

>>96897939
I don't know, but the discussion was good.

>>96897896
I'm not even sure I understand what he's hoping to accomplish here.
I think he's really just testing out to see how far he can go with trolling/spamming/flooding, with a complete disregard of how this board is going to judge him.

>>96897945
So good. We have the best discussions

>>96897955
>with a complete disregard of how this board is going to judge him
Yeah, that's pretty disgusting. Something that never happened on /osrg/, we were all always so considerate. Shitting up a general, how could he come up with such a perverse idea? The last two years were very peaceful, with no systematic trolling whatsoever.

>>96897955
>I'm not even sure I understand what he's hoping to accomplish here.
He's celebrating that 2e and faggotry are finally on topic in this general. Don't be such a killjoy.

>>96898003
I am angry and saddened by how this general is being treated by people who don't like its premise. It's very unfair.

>>96897955
pretty much this >>96897929
>her-derp look the thread had no discussion apart from gay hippo spam that I actually spammed wasting my entire day because I have literally no joy in life
let's see how much effort can he put up to fight over being able to control the osr discourse for like 5 anons in total on a slow anonymous image trading platform

>>96898010
He's trying to control the osr discourse? That's the reason, you think? I don't see how his behaviour accomplishes that.

>>96898025
I don't see it either. All I can say is that it's very unfair and nobody should do that, ever.

>>96898031
>nobody should do that, ever
Why are you framing it like that? You're making it sound like it's a regular occurrence, but nothing of the kind has ever happened on /osrg/. Unless you believe the fishfag conspiracy theories that the ACKshills try to promote.

>>96898045
>fishfag
>ACKShills
What? I'm new here, what are those?

>>96898010
There's no way he actually thinks anyone is reading his posts at this point though. If he actually has a plan, I think he's really just testing to see if he can troll like this and not get banned.
>let's see how much effort
I don't think it's effort that's on display here. It's now more a question of just how shameless he's willing to prove he is.

>>96898050
That's absurd. I'm really angry.

>>96898058
Just ignore him and discuss on-topic stuff. What's your favourite OSR game? Mine is Knave.

>>96898066
Knave is good, but I prefer Cairn.

>>96898050
Being shameless about being a dick is infuriating. I wish he would just stop.

>>96898069
Cairn is also good, but at that point I'd rather play Mork Borg.

>>96898066
>What's your favourite OSR game?
I'm going to play Shadowdark next week for the first time. I hear it's great. How do I prepare for my next session? Is there a charop guide somewhere?

>>96898066
>What's your favourite OSR game?
Mausritter and Tunnels & Trolls. Thank you for bringing the discussion back on topic.

>>96898102
That's awesome! For the charop you should defo pick a caster. Roll to cast let's you pretty much spam spells

>>96898050
>There's no way he actually thinks anyone is reading his posts at this point
I believe his main train of thought here is probably to later appeal to archives to show that "2e thread" only had off-topic spamming, while my "best general" had proper AI generated posts on topic to OSR... whoops I mean proper OSR content

>>96898124
>spam spells
Doesn't that cause aggro issues?

>>96898127
Don't feed the troll, stay on topic. What's your favourite OSR game?

>>96898131
It might, but for the most part you can just kite them. You wear no armor, so you have much greater movement speed in most cases.

Did he go away? Is it safe to talk now.

>>96898161
I think he's just lurking and planning his next move now that we've called him out. Perhaps we'll have a few hours of calm. Let's make the best of this. What do we talk about?

>>96898168
Session reports?

>>96898139
Basic Fantasy
it may not be the best overall but it's good enough and I love the core idea of anti-commercialism
both current ttrpg and bg landscape is such a fucking shitshow of scammers

nobody even calls it "pen and paper" anymore, back when I was a kid that was all you ever needed, just a pen, some paper, and your imagination

>>96898173
>We Blew Our Last Torch and Fought the Boss in the Dark. Typical Shadowdark Night.

Just finished a brutal delve into the Sunken Monastery catacombs and I need to share this quick. This system is genuinely terrifying when the countdown timer is real.

The crew (Borin the Tank and Elara the Sneaky Thief) were after the Sunstone pendant. We start with two torches. Within five minutes of dropping down, one torch just went poof from a nasty draft. Half the party is in total darkness.

>Skeleton Ambush:
We couldn't see anything, and then BAM! three crusty skeletons popped up. Borin took a wicked dent to the shoulder, but Elara managed to jam the old crypt lever, collapsing a wall and sealing the rest of the skeleton squad behind us as our last torch was about to die. Close call, but we were out of light sources!

>Lantern Pushing:
We had to rely on a single hooded lantern from that point on. Pushed deeper into a huge, fungus-covered room where the air felt super charged—you know, the bad kind of charged.

>The Void Cultist:
The Sunstone was there, guarded by a massive, bloated Cultist of the Void throwing shadow magic around. The fight was pure resource management. Kaelen, the wizard, had to burn his absolute last Magic Missile to stagger the guy, which finally let Borin connect and smash him.

We got the pendant, but the noise of the fight drew something huge and terrifying closer, and we didn't stick around to find out what. Zero healing potions left, lantern oil running dry, so we just bolted back to the surface. Left a ton of unexplored loot, but hey, the darkness wasn't worth it.

Anyone else find Shadowdark just makes you panic-sprint every time?

>>96898186
>Basic Fantasy
Best RPG ever.

>nobody even calls it "pen and paper" anymore, back when I was a kid that was all you ever needed, just a pen, some paper, and your imagination
Those were the times! Kids nowadays can't get off their screens. I blame the internet.

>>96898203
>Kids nowadays can't get off their screens.
I'm a school teacher and you wouldn't believe it if you saw it with your own eyes. Half my class can't even use a pen properly.

>>96898209
I swear it’s getting worse every year. This batch of students—you would not believe how many of them grip their pencils like they’re trying to crush a soda can. It’s the "death grip" or the full-fisted claw, rarely the nice, relaxed tripod we used to teach.

It’s genuinely worrying. Their fine motor skills just aren't there. I know we blame the screens, but honestly, it’s a direct result of them not having enough time with physical play—no Lego, no playdough, no scissors, no stringing beads. Those activities build the foundational muscles needed for endurance and control.

They tire out after three sentences, and their writing looks messy and strained. Trying to correct a five-finger fist grip in a seven-year-old who’s already developed the muscle memory feels like pulling teeth. It takes up so much class time just to teach them to hold the tool of their trade.

Just venting, but I think we’re heading for a generation of kids who can type a paragraph at 80 words per minute but can’t sign their name comfortably.

This will be the death of TTRPGs. There's a reason WotC wants to go full digital.

>>96898168
/tg/ threads are slow and that's ok
my last session we took a break to do a CoD/nWoD Halloween special
and prepping/GMing that got me exhausted, and that's all till next time we meet
also
I have no idea why I ever held CoD in high regard some 15 years ago, this time around I think it's a shitshow of a system

>>96898221
WHAT? I'm jealous Chronicles of Darkness / World of Darkness is one of my top three OSR games, but none of my friends want to play it. Anons who have never tried should definitely check it out.

>>96898233
+1
So good.

>>96898241
Based.

>>96898248
(You)'re based

>>96898263
Aww <3

See? This general is so wholesome. Don't let fishfag divide us.

>>96898273
>Don't let fishfag divide us.
What? Fishfag is our ally. Found the impostor.

>>96898221
>>96898233
>CoD/nWoD
That's not OSR, you obvious samefagging troll.

>>96898296
>samefagging

>>96898296
>I can use photoshop

>>96898315
Fuck you. And I'll talk about whatever the fuck I want.

>>96898318
No you won't. There's an OP, you have to abide by it or make your own thread

>>96898329
It's OSR. Are you buttblasted your janitor application was rejected?

>>96898337
I didn't apply.

>>96898289
Ally for what, the lgbt? Nobody actually wants to talk about 2E, go kill yourself
>>96898203
Bfrpg is genuinely one of the most dogshit games I have ever encountered in my life. It's not even worth the free price tag

>>96898347
Stfu then. Nobody cares what you think should or shouldn't be posted. OPs are a joke anyway.

>>96898220
>Their fine motor skills just aren't there.
They're there, just used in different ways. They can twiddle their thumbs with levels of precision that are insane thanks to all them vidya, and I know artists who prefer to use a mouse over a stylus because it lets them draw faster and with greater precision.

The funny thing is that in Ukraine, the most effective soldiers by far at the moment are the drone operators, and their skills have gotten to levels that make even professional drone racers wonder how it's possible to maneuver something so quickly and so precisely. And, it's because they've spent the last several years with most of their time wearing VR headsets performing literal life-or-death high-stakes operations. And, these are guys mostly in their 20's and 30's, and not even the kids who've never spent a day without a smart phone in their pocket playing two games at once while also watching tiktok videos. The next generation is going to take drone operations to levels even more absurd than they are now.

>>96898350
>It's not even worth the free price tag
Found the AD&D consumer whore.

>>96898364
I got that reference

>>96898368
I got gonorrhea from that reference.

>>96897545
Uh, no? I *am* fishfag, and my favorite edition is 2e because I'm an LGBT ally, that's why I'm posting these pictures

>>96897572
*raises paw shyly*
do girl gnolls have big willies? OwO asking for a friend

>>96898186
Incredible for your favorite osr game to be an actual dog shit abomination.
Have you ever actually played it? Do you have a character sheet you can post?

>>96898376
>>96898384
Can you please go away? We were having a good conversation about Chronicles of Darkness / World of Darkness

>>96898416
I tried implementing XP for cash in world of darkness, but my players ended up stripping all of the doorknobs and copper piping out of every single building they encountered.
They basically hit level 20 overnight because they found an abandoned factory and stripped it.
Fishfag warned me, why didn't I listen!?!

>>96898409
Why are you so mean?

>>96898416
>>96898364
>AD&D consumer whore
All of my advanced books were gifts from older people who stopped gaming, the last time I actually paid for an RPG book was over 20 years ago.
Gonnerman, if that's you, you need to know that your game is dog shit, and people only played it back when there was literally no alternative.

>>96898441
Please stop, it's not funny.

>>96898416
Stop being so transphobic and answer my question about the gnoll willies

>>96898451
>All of my advanced books were gifts from older people
So you're too poor to play a proper OSR game like 3e. Got it.

>>96898446
Why is your favorite osr game an actual pile of feces?

>>96898459
That question makes me uncomfortable, so I don't think I'll answer it.

>>96898469
I'm sorry for you you're so angry. The thread was going so well before you arrived. I'm very sad.

>>96898464
Why would I need books for that when the entire SRD is online for free? 3.0 is probably my favorite osr next to runequest

>>96898457
nta but after 2 years of putting up with this fuckers shenanigans?
It's a little funny to see him get a scoop of his own bullshit.

>>96898474
Stop being uncomfortable and just let this happen. This is good for both of us.
Shhhhh
*gently reaches for my belt*

>>96898478
Based. As the official role playing game of the LGBT national alliance, 2e deserves its proper spotlight in the osr.

>>96898477
>3.0 is probably my favorite osr next to runequest
Based. 3.0 is the best OSR system. 3.5 is when things went to shit, and the OSR started as a reaction to 3.5 and to bring 3.0 back.

You can tell because 3.5 is from 2003 and Castles & Crusades is from 2004. If the OSR was a reaction against 3.0, it would have started in 2001.

>>96898502
>The OSR started as a reaction to 3.5 and to bring 3.0 back. You can tell because 3.5 is from 2003 and Castles & Crusades is from 2004. If the OSR was a reaction against 3.0, it would have started in 2001.
Mind: Blown

>>96898296
Why are you so obsessed with trying to claim WOD isn't OSR?

Trying to redefine what the OSR is and was JUST to exclude WoD is absolute nonsense and is easily disproved and disputed.

If you don't like WoD and don't want to discuss it, that's fine. That's your choice. But, you cannot deny it is OSR or try to stop people from discussing it in the OSR general.

>>96898502
>>96898516
HOLD UP. NEW GENERAL DEFINITION JUST DROPPED. Who's writing the next OP?

>>96898542
>Welcome to the Old School Renaissance General, the thread dedicated to TSR D&D, D&D 3.0, derived systems, and all content compatible with them, including Knave, Cairn, Castles and Crusades, Shadowdark, Pathfinder, Mork Borg, and Mausritter.

>Broadly, OSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to early (pre-2003) Dungeons & Dragons: Less emphasis on murder hoboing and dungeon delving and a greater focus on metaplots, DM narration, and character story arcs, while keeping a tone that is respectful towards the sensibilities of Evangelical Christians and LGBTQIA+ folk.

>D&D 3.5 and later editions (2003 and later) are off topic, and so are demons, devils, assassins, and being controversial. Races should be referred to as "ancestries", alignment are a reference to the political sensibilities of California in 2020, no race is intrinsically evil, and there has to be at least one halfling of colour and one LGBT humanoid in your party.

>If you are new to the OSR, welcome! Ask us whatever you're bi-curious about, we'll be happy to groom you into this lifestyle.

>>96898629
Nice but
>and being controversial
should be "and causing offence". Also the first time you said LGBTQIA+, but then you said LGBT. You should use the more inclusive form both times.

>>96898168
>I think he's just lurking and planning his next move
I don't think he has a plan at this point. It's just sunk cost fallacy at this point forcing him to keep trying to do what he's already committed himself to doing.

It's kind of like in chess where the players both see checkmate in seven moves but the losing player still has to go through the motions because he hasn't left himself any better options; he's just forestalling defeat. He's already aware that people are just going to ignore all his posts and keep remaking the thread, but since his only other option is admitting defeat, he has to keep making things worse for himself.

>>96898502
The science is sound.

>>96898003
Both those things have always been on topic. LGBT stuff tends to not come up that often but nothing in the D&D stops it from being in games.

>>96898296
the first anon here, I wasn't implying WoD is OSR
I was saying it's totally natural any given ttrpg general isn't getting dozens of posts/per hour
I used my table choosing to go for a halloween-special CoD one-shot as an example
we play once in 2 or 3 weeks best to worst, so having played a halloween-special CoD one-shot the last week I can have like 1.5 months in between my main campaign sessions

the second anon is obviously a troll

>>96898478
don't try to make it about some "righteous vengeance" this thread has seen what.. 140 spam posts in the last 6 hours?

the actual funny things is the amount of effort the couple of anons put into it
and most importantly that it proves
a) you really don't just want others to leave you alone, you want them to populate your space but after agreeing to submit to your fake "consensus" of rigid rules
b) you see any alternative as a threat because you know anons would rather not have to engage with the toxic couple of anons you are a part of

well guess what
it's way easier for others to make a new thread once in a while than it is to spam it to the bump limit
so good fucking luck

>>96898898
>don't try to make it about some "righteous vengeance" this thread has seen what.. 140 spam posts in the last 6 hours?
>But how can it be good when it am happening to me?!
Nah, you deserve this, get fucked. Lel

>>96898911
>get fucked
lmao
you think this spam has any effect on anyone?
we know there are just a couple of you
must be tired by now huh? I mean imagine wasting half of your day doing something purely out of spite?
must be bad for your heart or something

especially once you'll run out of copium and accept the idea no one is actually reading your spam
it's all wasted, anon
but you are free to continue for a couple more weeks, just more food for those anons who find your fits entertaining

>>96898898
Well let's see, Fishfag has been doing this shit in (the real) OSRG for somewhere between 2 and 7 years. So how about this; come back here in 2 years time and you can squeeze some tears out of the tip of my cock over him getting the same then.
Until then though; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA

>>96898898
You probably don't want to directly link to that guy's posts. He's so cancerous that there's no way to know what kind of diseases you might catch.
Just ignore him and wait for him to tire himself out.

>>96898954
aha.. right
no one was ever just spamming for 6 hours straight playing ping-pong between themself

but you know knock yourself out, it's your life
you lying there on your deathbed and thinking about that one time you "really stick it" to the [supposed] "fishfag"
by spamming shit for 6 hours straight is a hilarious thought

nigga you are doing this to yourself

>>96898629
Why the fuck are you excluding world of darkness? It's literally one of the oldest osr games, probably the original one

>>96898649
That was actually me, and if you're going to be pedantic about it, it needs to be LGBTQQUIAPM++

>>96898457
And he's neither funny, nor mentally competent, nor capable of speaking English. The complaint about door knobs being stolen is obviously one of the most nogames retard things he has ever spouted

>>96898997
I know you're going to pretend it isn't the case regardless of what I say; but I'm not the one spamming. I'm >>96897545 this chap.

I still stand by what I said, let him have his thread and let him rot in it.
But I am also going to take some schadenfreude from watching someone shit up these threads for likely as long as he keeps making them, because after the amount of times he's fucked up and faggoted out in an osrg thread there's not much short of maybe waterboarding you could do to him that I'd feel much sympathy for.
>[Supposed] "Fishfag"
Pretend all you like I suppose. Lie to yourself and others.
But doesn't mean this >>96898963 poster doesn't exist and isn't obviously the same person who has spent so very, very long being a shithead across the board.

For now though, Eppur si pesci

>>96898127
I don't think the boring "good boy" posts he makes are AI generated. They're just very boring and very technical and incredibly forced, because that's actually the general make up of him. He's actually worse than AI posts.

His whole philosophy around games is pretty warped, and they're a huge part of his ego. He's one of those grognards that weighs himself and other people by how much they play, and how well they've memorized rules, and generally how much of an obnoxious loser that creates a bad stereotype they are. It's why his posts never contain any original or interesting ideas.

He just lacks many of the most important skills involved with games, like having a strong imagination, social skills, clever solutions/strategies, and so on, and has to cope with the fact that he's kind of just a dullard by imagining that the only thing that matters in a game is how much you can prove that you're obsessed with it.

>>96898997
Don't fall for his self-serving bait.
Everything he says is lies, just ignore him, especially when he pretends to disagree with himself just to have an excuse to try and pump out more lies.

>>96899062
Today I learned that joke has she is named Joe fish. Joe fish also happens to be the name of a flash animation animal Gore cartoon website from the early 2000s.
How deep is this rabbit hole go?

>>96899077
It is kinda funny that he thinks that after putting on a butthurt puppet show for several hours for everyone to see (twice) that there's still going to be anyone left who's going to believe a word he says, let alone bother to read it.

It's basically checkmate. I actually think the mods just letting him self destruct like this may have been a perfect 4D chess maneuver, though I don't know if anyone would have guessed he'd murder himself this hard.

>>96896618
You could just let a campaign end.

>>96899123
Who?

Have you ever heard of anyone actually using the Harlot table?
Even with several different DMs, I've never seen a singly doxy or tart and I'm starting to suspect the whole chart was just an elaborate ruse to try and get us to return to town more often.

>>96898815
>I wasn't implying WoD is OS
It is, though.

>>96898722
>It's kind of like in chess where the players both see checkmate in seven moves but the losing player still has to go through the motions
Uh... no, he doesn't. Players usually resign in that case.

So, i'm planning to start a sandbox hexcrawl campaign with my group using B/X with a little AD&D1e mixed in it

That being said, i'm torn between which setting to play in, since i don't want to write everything from the ground up, but i also want some "meat" on it to fall back to if i need.

Any recommendations? I've looked into Mystara so far (Northern Reaches and Karameikos), but the world seem to be very populated and civilized for a hexcrawl game.

>>96899280
People don't really play the original original D&D at all.
It's usually just AD&D or some flavor of Basic.
It's hard to come up with reasons to play original D&D when there's Basic.

>>96899062
>Eppur si pesci
Eppur si pesca, barbarian.

>>96899099
>How deep is this rabbit hole go?
Not as deep as my anus. Wanna probe?

>>96899322
>i'm planning to start a sandbox hexcrawl campaign with my group using B/X with a little AD&D1e mixed in it
If your question of about first decade D&D, you want to post in the first decade D&D thread: >>96892196

You're not likely to get a competent answer here, this is the buttblasted 2etard thread.

>>96899334
>People don't really play the original original D&D at all.
Fishfag doesn't even know what game that table is from XD

>>96899322
If you want unpopulated, uncivilized, and with lots of "meat", my first thought is Dark Sun, but that's kind of heavy and is all 80's apocalyptic and Conan themed.

>Mystara
There's HUGE amounts of wilderness. Depending on where you start, you can spend a long time away from any cities or even towns.

>>96899280
>Have you ever heard of anyone actually using the Harlot table?
You too:

If your question of about first decade D&D, you want to post in the first decade D&D thread: >>96892196

You're not likely to get a competent answer here, this is the buttblasted 2etard thread. Proof is: the only answer you've received is from a 2etard who thinks that table is from OD&D. You're wasting your time here.

>>96899397
He did ask over there, retard. All he found was you acting like a dumb faggot because you are buttblasted that 2e is OSR.

>>96899423
My, what a for lil' puppy
>first thought is Dark Sun
Oh no
It's retarded

>>96899423
That map seems very much what i would like.

Is the Isle of Dawn expanded in any of the GAZ series?

>>96899441
I don't wanna sound like a queer or nothin', but I think Dark Sun is kick ass

>>96899441
The puppy thinks when seeing your posts

>>96899467
I got that reference

>>96899473
Best movie ever made

>>96899460
That particular map is from Dawn of the Emperors: Thyatis and Alphatia.
https://www.drivethrurpg.com/en/product/16995/dawn-of-the-emperors-thyatis-and-alphatia-basic?affiliate_id=137189

>>96899280
What kind of person wastes gold on pretend sex.

>>96899438
>you are buttblasted
You wouldn't believe how buttblasted I am. I'm soft like butter down there, you STUD.

>>96899471
Yeah the ironic thing is that he's the actual retard.

>>96899501
Then that dog would make a great pet for you.

>>96899438
>you are buttblasted
Oh, yes, I'm your buttblasted whore. Give it to me. Call me an ACKShill. Slap your fish on my face.

>>96899438
Just ignore the troll.

>>96899423
Can you please stop posting bullshit and go back to your thread? You're making this thread unusable.

>>96899280
>>96899334
Obvious samefag is obvious.

>>96899517
Yeah, ignore the troll. He'll give up eventually. I'm sure.

>>96899527
Stop replying to him.

>>96899556
I'm not replying to him, he's not the troll. You got him mixed up.

>>96899492
>buying a +3 weapon
One could dream...

>>96899123
>It is kinda funny that he thinks that after putting on a butthurt puppet show for several hours for everyone to see (twice) that there's still going to be anyone left who's going to believe a word he says, let alone bother to read it.
>It's basically checkmate. I actually think the mods just letting him self destruct like this may have been a perfect 4D chess maneuver, though I don't know if anyone would have guessed he'd murder himself this hard.
Absolutely. We've already won. He's even admitted that his butt is blasted. We're winning. Just resist and talk about 2e. How did your last session go?

>>96899573
>He's even admitted that his butt is blasted.
He did??

>>96899584
Yes he did. Twice. Here:
>>96899498
>>96899514

>>96899563
By the date of the post, I'm guessing it's either 3e or 4e. It's the oldest /tg/ screenshot I have.

>>96899563
The game being talked about in that pic is probably not 1e/2e.

>>96899595
I don't think that's a real admission. It's just him trolling some more. Stop giving him (You)s, he'll go away?

>>96899599
>Stop giving him (You)s, he'll go away?
That's a question?

>>96899610
No, I'm sure of it. It's unavoidable.

>>96899563
Why dream of a +3 weapon when you could have a +4?

>>96899620
I think you're replying to the troll.

>>96899596
Can you please stop trolling? Go back to your containment thread.

>>96899624
I don't think it was a troll post.

>>96899620
Depends on what kind of +3 weapon we're talking about.

>>96899638
Excellent quality discussion. I'd also like to have a +3 weapon.

>>96899646
Me too! I'm so happy people are having good quality discussion despite all the troll noise. I think +3 weapons are sweet, but some are sweeter than others.

>>96899669
YOU'RE THE GOAT!

>>96899670
With my +3 Weapon? You betcha.

>>96899563
>>96899620
>>96899638
Obvious samefag is obvious.

>>96899689
Huh? I'm none of those guys.

>>96899692
Sorry forgot picrel.

>>96899701
>Images are posting themselves.
Is this your latest delusion, ACKShill?

>>96899670
+3 goat.

>>96898898
>a) you really don't just want others to leave you alone, you want them to populate your space but after agreeing to submit to your fake "consensus" of rigid rules
>b) you see any alternative as a threat because you know anons would rather not have to engage with the toxic couple of anons you are a part of
Incorrect. We do just want you to leave us alone, but this includes not making any more fake /osrg/ threads and accepting the new, revised consensus OP which clarifies the limites the general has always had from the very beginning. In other words, as long as you insist on making these bogus threads and calling them /osrg/, enjoy getting shitposted to death I guess.

>>96899334
Jesus Christ fishfag you're a genuine embarrassment. That's from the first edition advanced DMG

>>96899438
Good job finding your own posts actually
>>96899471
>ESL retard can't form a cohesive english sentence

>>96899790
He's not the fishfag, I am.

>>96899771
>Incorrect
>let me followup with actually proving it is 100% correct
ok, parade-brigade-anon

>>96899807
You're the one who doesn't understand what's happening here and is trying desperately to fit in so you can transform the thread. Go to Reddit or something instead of bothering us

>>96899796
>t, retard who talking about himself.

>>96899807
I'm not even one of the anons doing the shitposting, I'm just saying. Leaving /osrg/ alone includes not pretending to be /oseg/, that's obvious.

Also, you just plain shouldn't be this assblasted that literally everyone else in the entire world knows that 2e isn't OSR. It's a bizarre and unhealthy fixation.

>>96899818
>I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you!
lmao at the real fishfag with the kindergarten comebacks. His actual IRL retardation is beyond parody. Inimitable.

>>96899823
It looks more like entire world knows you are retarded. 2e is OSR and your retarded crying is not going to change that.

>>96899847
>It looks more like entire world knows you are retarded.
I know you are, but what am I?

>>96899839
>His actual IRL retardation is beyond parody
Yes that you and your crying about a boogeyman.

>>96899853
You are the faggot buttblasted that 2e is on topic.

Man, it's like pulling the chord on the back of an old fashioned doll.
>I know you are but what am I
>You're the one that's mad
>Muh boogeymen
>2e is OSR
>Ur butt is made of poop and you smell of pee-pee
>I'm not even real
>[Jayden Smith Tweet]

>>96899855
>>96899862
You don't happen to hate Cynthia from the Pokemon franchise, do you?

>>96899862
>You are the faggot buttblasted
Wait, how do you know I'm buttblasted? Have you already fucked me in the ass?

>>96899869
>derp durr.

>>96899889
You're right that one does fit in as well.

>>96899871
I never played Pokemon beyond Red, Blue, and Yellow.

>>96899894
Yes, that fits in your mom.

>>96899898
Probably the best OSR games.

>>96899460
You could also ask here >>96893030 about settings.

>>96899869
Don't forget
>yes that you
Profoundly Indian diction.

>>96899807
Nah, he's right. Nobody else thinks 2e is OSR or wants to force it; everyone who actually likes 2e is over in /2eg/ talking about it now, and the NuSR guys have their own thread too. Only one person is butthurt and trolling about it.

>>96899957
>Everyone who disagrees with me is just one person.
Also he wrong and dumb like you.

>>96900014
>he wrong and dumb like you
The sub-human ESL Indian types like a caveman when he attempts English

>>96900046
It only looks that way to you because you are a retard with dongs for eyes.

>>96899814
on the contrary
I understand perfectly well
you are free to waste your time

>>96899823
just as any man who must say, "I am the King", is no true king,
any general that must insist it is the true general is not the true general

this is all this simple experiment is about

>He's STILL trolling

It's been almost 12 hours.

>>96900154
He's a neet living on government gibs. Ignore him.

>>96900134
I'm actually curious about what would happen if the two threads existed without any interference and just honest labeling. One thread being "OSR but 2e is not allowed" and no nonsense about an imaginary consensus, and the other thread being "OSR is pre-WotC style."

We've already seen periods of that happen, with the latter proving popular to the point where the troll's insistence that only one person prefers that was completely discredited. I think that's why the troll is now putting so much effort into trying to flood this thread, because he doesn't want the reality of the situation to become clear. That, and he has no more credibility to lose.

>>96900154
>I can't believe they'd spend 12 hours doing what I've been doing to them for 2 years.

>>96900249
What would happen is that this thread would just die because of little to no activity.

>>96900320
naturally you don't believe that since you are sure not going to let the thread "die due to no activity" :^)

anyone knows if is that from mythic bastionland?
>>96899970

>>96900333
Nah, this is just Anons letting you taste a bit of your own medicine. You don't like it very much when you're on the receiving end of your own behaviour, eh?

>>96900333
You really need to stop replying to him.

>>96900333
triplet of trvk

>>96899322
>since i don't want to write everything from the ground up,
Sounds like what you need is to spend some time with Donjon and just let it do your work for you.
https://donjon.bin.sh/fantasy/world/

>>96900333
If you were to remove all the shitposts this thread would be on page 9. There's literally no genuine activity ITT, and there wasn't in the last one either.

>>96900345
It looks like somethng from Vermis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPWP93ceBf0

>>96900357
Stop feeding the troll.

>>96900414
Best OSR RPG ever.

>>96900432
>>96900435
Thanks for the bump, faggot

>>96900370
'Scuse me, making a beeline to the Fortress of the Lich Princess.

>>96900441
Any time, stud

>>96900387
I guess we'll never know since the parade-brigade just can't take the chances osr-interested anons would prefer another thread : ^)
how convenient

>>96900449
Gunning for that Lichussy like a true gentleman of taste are we?

>>96900456
That's exactly what (You) have been doing for two years on the real /osrg/. Enjoy your just deserts.

>>96900441
Will you stop feeding the troll?

>>96900470
This is (You)

>>96900449
This thing is half great, half lame.
The Desolation of Amunan?
Pretty cool.
THE SEA OF G-G-G-G-GHOSTS?!
Not so much.

>>96900478
Oh fuck off and create your own subreddit.

>>96900485
Case in point. (You) don't actually care about this general, (You)'re just false flagging.

>>96900479
>This thing is half great, half lame.
Are you joking? It's all great. Best RPG map ever made.

>>96900449
Don't listen to the trolls, it's excellent, Anon.

never played any old editions unfortunately
and i know this was way earlier in the thread
but i just gotta ask
doorknobs?

>>96900449
Thank you for posting this map and showing the trolls what level of quality fucus discussion we're having here. Blood River? The Coney Woods? This is top notch stuff.

>>96900522
I like that there's an Amber River and a Blood River. Really evocative. It almost sounds like one is red and another one is orange.

>>96900513
A few months ago in the real /osrg/ an idiot started claiming UNIRONICALLY get if you use XP for gold players will start stealing dooknobs from dungeons, as an argument for the superiority of AD&D 2e over the first decade editions (OD&D, AD&D, B/X, B/E, Holmes).

It's one of many retarded takes he's been making for a couple years, some of which have been collected and immortalised by another Anon in this image. Most of them will probably be unclear to you, but each one of those is at least as retarded as the doorknobs thing.

>>96900531
Oh, I missed the Amber River. This is so good. I'm sure Anon will have a great campaign there.

>>96900479
>THE SEA OF G-G-G-G-GHOSTS?!
If you have to say it like that every time it's mentioned it wraps back around to being awesome again.

>>96900554
so its not even some esoteric meta game knowledge like doorknobs being disproportionally valuable to merchants in town?
its just some autistic argument against gold for xp?
this is so fucking stupid

>>96900513
One of our regular (unfortunately) posters is a subhumanoid known as Fishfag, who believes OSR must fall (Dozens must die), because of /pol/shit.

As such he undermines the pillars of OSR gameplay any chance he gets, one of them being XP-for-gold, a perfectly reasonable way of players having control over exactly how fast they advance.
How far are you willing to risk going into the dungeon to try and find the next big steal, ect.
He, retard he is, claims XP-for-gold leads to shit like players stealing doorknobs and scraping dried goblin cum off the stonework for XP, as if any DM with half a brain isn't going to just go "Bro, behave."

>>96900590
The saddest thing about the entire situation is that there are legit times when the real treasure is the copper piping we pulled out the walls along the way.
You run across an adamantium door or some ancient dwarven writings and behold, that shit is right fancy valuable.
But he picks the most retarded arguments.
Ask how he got his nickname if you like for more proof.

>>96900604
This is the same guy who kept repeating that the first decade is 1974-1984 and not 1974-1983 because he literally can't count to 10 on the tips of his fingers. He's got some serious psychiatric and developmental disorders.

>>96900604
yes, i love storytime :)
also i can totally see stealing a fancy door as equivalent to stealing treasures like a large mirror or gold vase

>>96900513
In the Tomb of Horrors, there's famously a set of doors made of Adamantine, an effectively-indestructible super-rare metal, with the intention being that players would not be able to simply break their way through. Adamantine doors show up in many other adventures, and over the years countless DMs have been faced with players recognizing the incredible value of those doors and doing their best to figure out how to remove the doors and transport them out of the dungeon, with players more than happy to destroy all the surrounding stone in order to get the several hundred or even thousands of pounds of metal worth more than its weight in gold.

Players stealing the doors from dungeons is just one of many things players do when their main motivation is to get as much treasure as they can. A lot of adventures include things like several hundred-pound statues and even include their value in GP because they understand players will pry them up and spend several minutes figuring out the logistics of transporting them back to town. Players taking everything that isn't bolted down, and even things bolted down like doors and doorknobs, is such a classic aspect of the game that DMs have to consider the value of things that they may have just tried to use as window dressing, sometimes literally. Silk Drapes? Those are worth 10gp per .5 lbs.

>>96900634
>i can totally see stealing a fancy door as equivalent to stealing treasures like a large mirror or gold vase
Absolutely, but fishfag was talking about stealing normal brass doorknobs as if it were an actual thing that happens at first decade D&D tables.

>>96900634
>also i can totally see stealing a fancy door as equivalent to stealing treasures like a large mirror or gold vase
If nothing else, one of my groups once stole a dwarven door to use as an improvised barricade/shield.
They turned it sideways and just plonked it down in the middle of any narrow corridor and braced behind it.

>>96900634
>yes, i love storytime :)
Long story short
>Fishfag hates a game called ACKS for /polshit/ reasons
>Has spent the last 2 years refreshing the archives looking for any mention of ACKS so he can immediately shit up the threads with screeching claims about how it's boring, doesn't work, it'll touch your kids and feed your dog chocolate, ect, ect, so on, so forth
>For a while he was hooting and raving about how it's all charts for the sake of charts and there's no real use in any of the extra detail in the game
>Someone mistakes him for an honest actor and posts pic related story to try and explain that no, actually, some of the mechanics really smooth things out and allow for some neat emergent gameplay
>Fishfag immediately pretends not to get what it's about, declares it "Boring" and has a tantrum for the rest of the thread like the DM strapped one of his players down and read the entire rulebook verbatim while pegging the guy with a frozen kipper
>Everyone laughs at him and brings up the fish economics story to heckle him whenever he shows up from then while he keeps screaming boring since acknowledging what the story is actually about would be admitting he's wrong and a bad faith actor, an absolute Kobiyashi Maru if there ever was one
>Someone goes "Holy shit are you the Fishfag?" and the nickname stuck
>The DM who posted the story then went on to post his entire campaign log in a later thread leading to even more furious seething and screams of boring, bad story teller, worse than Hitler, ect, ect
It'd all be very funny if he didn't seem to be genuinely mentally ill.

>>96900638
>im just trying to study my tomes but adventurers keep stealing my expensive doors
>they even took my fucking drapes
adventurers can be such kleptomaniac assholes, i love it
also figuring how to get a big ass statue out of a dungeon sounds kinda comfy
>>96900640
i figured as much, i guess fishfag was really jonesing for some xp
>>96900643
sounds awesome, did you shoot over it, gears of war style?

>>96900640
>normal brass doorknobs
Doorknobs are not usually made of brass, and brass has value.
Remember that even in Gygax's first games, Ernie Gygax, who played Tenser, so famously tried to strip all the possible value out of a dungeon, down to the last copper coin, that Gary included a note about that in the spell that was made so Tenser could carry all the loot out.

It's also not mere stealing, it's looting, and adventurer's looting a dungeon down to its bones wasn't just encouraged, it had historical (in the form of soldiers completely desiccating conquered cities like a swarm of locusts) and even literary precedent. Hell, Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser don't just steal a doorknob, they don't just steal a door, they don't even just steal a whole room, they steal a house.

>>96900679
Do you really imagine there's anyone who's going to believe you after your tantrums and trolling?
Even anyone pretending to believe you is going to just be seen as you samefagging.

>>96900699
>sounds awesome, did you shoot over it, gears of war style?
We had a pikeman, a crossbowman, a wizard and a particularly fire-affectionate dwarf, so usually the go-to was fire over the top, poke anyone who charged to try and escape, snipe anyone who was on the other side of it.
Good times.

On the topic of Tomb of Horrors: obligatory reference to the team that hired a bunch of dwarves to mine the whole thing out. 10/10 king shit that.

>>96900679
i like a good fillet every once in a while
a quick glance at ACKS makes wonder if you can scale up an OSE game to that
anyway thanks for telling me, its an incredibly stupid story

>>96900712
Seems to me like the monkey paw has curled and your gay little thread is getting some good content for once.
Not the content you wanted mind you.

Also, for those unaware, the actual OSRG thread is >>96892196 this one here.

This thread is Fishfag attempting to pull a Peoples Judean Front gambit after his last two attempts to split the thread (/todd/ and /fuckedifIcaretoremembertheotherone/ failed out)

>>96900739
>hired a bunch of dwarves to mine the whole thing out
but what about all the traps, puzzles and monsters?
Acererak has been sleeping for decades he can sleep for a few more months
genius

>>96900770
>a quick glance at ACKS makes wonder if you can scale up an OSE game to that
ACKS is good for stealing from if nothing else.
Go to the archives and search AzteCKS if you want the original campaign to see how ACKS is in play. It's a pretty tidy write up.

Is he gone?
Might be time to make a new thread soon, actually.

>>96901064
yeah sure
he'll tire himself soon enough
what is it, 30 posts to bump limit?

>>96900053
You type that way because your dad made a brown third world but baby fucking himself

>>96900513
>>96900638
>Players stealing the doors from dungeons is just one of many things players do when their main motivation is to get as much treasure as they can.
Everything this retard says is absolutely incorrect. He doesn't play games and he often spouts this retarded nonsense that he has heard somewhere, assuming that it's true. He's a fuckwit retard who has tried to derail this thread for years.

>>96901131
>ACKS shill tries to lie instead of having an argument
>fucks up
Wow, you are pretty dumb.

>>96901131
No, it's absolutely correct and we've even got people in this thread talking about stealing doors. >>96900643

>>96901131
the Tomb of Horrors door story is true though
so if one of you is a liar and one is telling the truth, you are the one who is the liar

>>96900643
>>96901156
>>96901165
Hello Fishfag. Have you learned basic economics yet?

>>96901173
well I'll be..
having ackshills loving this thread so much and all proves we only need this thread I guess
case closed

>>96901131
Are you upset that you spent months trying to make looting doors and doorknobs sound completely ridiculous, when the ridiculous thing is you not believing people would see free shit and try to take it?

To be fair, you do look pretty stupid.

>>96901165
>My group once used a door as a shield/ a barricade!
>This means that players steal doorknobs if you use xp for gp!
I would feel bad for how retarded you are if you weren't clearly a bad faith actor.
>>96901156
>Nogames third world ESL that has never had a character sheet in his life trying to demoralize and agitate a thread because he is desperate and lonely.

Players aren't stealing door knobs because of XP for GP. They are doing it because your games are boring trash and they are so bored they have to resort to stealing door knobs and smoking them to resell on the open market

>>96901173
ACKS shill, you really need to give up.
You've proven to everyone that you only know how to lie and lie a lot.
That's not going to get people to listen to you. The exact opposite, actually.

>>96901169
It's not true at all. In the last 20 yard t if using it, not *one group* did this. Especially when you consider that your dumbass doesn't even realize that tomb of horrors isn't for campaigns, it's a tournament module that had a special scoring system completely separate from leveling up.
But then again I wouldn't expect you to know much of anything considering you don't actually play games

>>96901193
What's ridiculous is that you don't play games, and that when you are told that your retarded delusions are in fact just retarded delusions, you double down.
Players aren't feeling doorknobs to get extra XP. If this is the kind of behavior your players engage in, you're either a bad DM or you don't understand how to run the game.

>>96901203
>They are doing it because your games are boring trash and they are so bored they have to resort to stealing door knobs and smoking them to resell on the open market
*cough* FISHSTORY *cough*
excuseme you were saying

>>96901203
Bad faith is calling everyone you disagree with some boogeyman name while trying to make "players like to loot stuff" sound ridiculous like it never happens, when players looting ridiculous stuff are some of the most famous and well known RPG stories.

>>96901156
>ACKS BAD BECAUSE SOMEONE SAID XP FOR GP GOOD
lol kek lmao
>>96901165
A group once using a door as an improvised shield? Those are not even close to being the same thing, and you're an idiot for thinking they are

>>96900679
holy shit that story is fucking awesome
so you say the game is called ACKS?
ok so I looked into it and I found Adventurer Conqueror King System, is that it? if so i'm reading it

>>96901229
What Boogeyman name did I use? Do you actually know who you're replying to?

And yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous that you think players are out here stealing door knobs in such numbers as to become problematic, and all because they get XP from treasure?

If this is the case of your games it's genuinely because you're a dog shit DM who can't create a compelling game loop, or because more accurately, you're actually a nevergame that is just repeating retarded bullshit he's seen on YouTube

>>96901219
>It's not true at all. In the last 20 yard t if using it, not *one group* did this
ooohh... yeah... *smacks lips* ...nah
looks like you need a source for us to believe a claim like that
>it's a tournament module
no one claimed otherwise
so yeah, looks like you are the lie-saying guard
sorry for that kiddo

>>96901245
Yep! You're going to get called a shill whenever you want to talk about the game, but that's because the person using that word doesn't actually understand that it doesn't mean "open supporter of something".

The rules have lots of autism but there's a lot to work with, and the monster manual was one of my favorites. I also recommend the dwarf book

>>96901245
>>96901255
1 minute 2 seconds
lol

>>96901255
I'm watching a video about it. The abstract wilderness encounter surely is catching my attention, though idk if I would use it.
So this system focus is large scale or something?

>>96901279
oh so you are the guy people here talk about? lmao hi

>>96901250
My negro friend, since you are aware that the game is a tournament module, you are also aware that there was not incentive to acquire GP or xp, considering that there would be no spending or leveling?

But please, tell us more about how you know so little about something so confidently.

welp anons
good one
obviously this is indeed the one /TRUE OSRG/ since all the anons from the other one just can't help but join us from the backward thread they call home

we've hit the bumperino limit, so feel free to make a new thread
or I can do it later

>>96901297
He freaks out whenever anybody actually talks about games.
>>96901287
Abstract encounters is actually a great system, but don't overly use it. It's good for padding and filler and getting things done outside of sessions.
Also, make sure you thoroughly read and enjoy the books before you decide to spend money on them. I only have PDFs and I'm still not sure if I want to actually bite the bullet.

By the way, the creator of the game has a podcast he does where he talks about game design both for his game and one's related

>>96901299
your mom is your negro, bitch

now you can have a good chance to follow the reply chain and work on your reading comprehension

>>96901303
I doubt our resident ESL actually lives anywhere so nice.
Based on his obsession with 2nd edition and homosexual activity, I'm assuming he is either Eastern European or Central American.

>>96901322
what do you think the window is showing?

>>96901312
One last thing, is the ACK naming a coincidence or is he one of us?

>>96901315
*smacks lips*
Mmm...nah. u finna make me flash or what nigga?
*rips a massive greasy pepperoni fart right down your throat*

>>96901226
>Players aren't feeling doorknobs to get extra XP.
Over the years, I've personally seen players try to take doors, doorknobs, door knockers, locks, manacles, chains, empty chests, statues of every size and shape, stained glass windows, tapestries, tapestry rods, basically just about everything. Some may have wanted them for possible utility, but a lot of these were definitely because in the worst case they could be sold for some (or even a lot of) gold, and some (like with fancy door knockers) may have been just to have some sort of souvenir.

Player kleptomania and item hoarding doesn't happen with every group, but it happens frequently enough that I don't know why you want to insist it never happens. You sound like you don't really have much experience playing with different people if you expect everyone to act the same.

>If this is the kind of behavior your players engage in, you're either a bad DM or you don't understand how to run the game.
Letting players try things and make decisions is bad?

>>96901343
It's entirely coincidental as it predates the meme. That being said, players will definitely meme on it, at least my group does.
I'm also pretty sure he's one of us given that he is known to have posted here in the past and he was banned from Reddit because his game is too closely aligned with alt right Nazi dog whistle (based)

>>96901343
yas sister! the creator of ACK(!)S is a known LGBTQ ally and is known for working on PR for famous LGBTQ celebrities <3
>verification?
>not required

>>96900604
>doorknob licker cries about the boogeyman as if all the posts that upset him came from one person.
>>96900633
>look at me count to potato!

>>96901401
>he was banned from Reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/Autarch/
what the fuck is this then? LMAO ackshill can't have a minute of his life not trying to blatantly lie to strangers on the internet

>>96901396
I've been playing D&D for 30 years, weekly sessions the almost entire time, very different groups. And I've never once seen players stealing door knobs. I've seen them want to steal stuff like furniture etc, and then I remind them how extremely heavy it is compared to how valuable it is. Treasure is almost always significantly more optimal, and if they are so hard up that they are scrapping furniture for coppers, then they need to adventure somewhere else, or the DM needs to gently nudge them.
>Letting players make decisions is bad?
No, it's a good thing and it's how they learn lessons, but if you encourage and enable bad behavior at your game, you're going to get more of it.
Gently remind the players that they are welcome to drag those doors out of the dungeon, but they probably won't get much money for them, it will take them huge amounts of Labor to get them into town, and that they would be better off just looking for actual valuables.

>>96901279
You're acting like it's not the most dead obvious samefagging ever. He doesn't even care how ridiculous he looks anymore.

>>96901425
They lifted his ban? That's fantastic, you don't see that that often :-) thank you for being so up to date on Reddit lore!

>>96901401
lmao ok

>>96901426
Nah, man, you've been playing SHIT pseudo-D&D with a retarded DM and faggot players who don't know anything about actual games; You have no experience playing real D&D/RPGs so don't bother trying to act like you have anything anyone wants to hear. It's why you're so fucking lonely and no one wants to hear your boring stories.

>>96901120
Yes, we can tell that is why you keep acting like a retard who cries about a boogeyman.

>>96901421
>>96901421
You would know how to count as well if you are third world ESL village had any type of education system :-)

>>96901322
>obsession with 2nd edition and homosexual activity
The irony of you saying anything about that.

>>96901458
Haha yeah, if I had a real DM and played real d&d, we would have been stealing door knobs decades ago!
Kek retards like you are always amusing

>>96901466
Enough about you and your posts, potato counter.

>>96901435
>ackshill being a stinky weasel .... again
well well well
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/96799302/#q96814829

>>96901426
>or the DM needs to gently nudge them
ackshill confirmed to be a railroading storyfaggot

>>96901463
Good job finding your own retarded posts

>>96901525
Reminding players of things that their characters would commonly know such as "stealing door knobs has an extremely low value-to-weight-ratio", isn't railroading of any sort you nogames retard

>>96901543
Nope I found your posts, retard

>>96901426
>And I've never once seen players stealing door knobs.
Never even tried? I guess you were too busy telling them all the ways they can't play that you've sufficiently quashed any original or interesting ideas they might have. With many groups, just about anything I mention has the players considering possibilities of all kinds, and "take item" is a pretty obvious interaction with potential benefits.

Please notice I never said the players always succeeded at taking some random fixture or ultimately held onto all the items they took. Generally the plan seemed to be "fill up until encumbered, then start dumping the less valuable/heavier stuff for more valuable treasure if/when found". Often, the time/noise involved in taking some more fixed items would be what would discourage the players in the first place, and just mentioning how loud a heavy strike against stone was would get players to stop trying to loot something.

You're coming at this from a pretty bad faith perspective and attitude.

>>96901486
If your village had schools or potatoes you would know how to count to 10, the number of years in a decade, but you're too gay and retarded having your fist up your dad's ass and your dick in his mouth

>>96901550
it's not railraoding but it's stripping them of agency to the same effect it could be railroading for all intents and purposes of it being counter to everything the OSR and OS gameplay stands for

>>96901607
We did not need to know that about you, retard.

>>96901516
Debunked, actually

>>96901636
>Letting the players know about the potential consequences of their actions before allowing them to take them is stripping them of agency
You're genuinely fucking retarded. I would suspect that you're just a bad dm, but I don't think you actually play.

In no way is this removing agency or railroading. It's literally just making sure that they make informed decisions instead of pulling a gotcha on them.
For fuck sakes people like you are an embarrassment to this hobby

>>96901219
Tomb of Horrors was ORIGINALLY a tournament module. Since then, it's become not only a "general purpose" module, it's part of an adventure series chain.
Also, players trying to steal the adamantine doors was so well known, the 3rd edition version of the Tomb of Horrors replaced them with steel doors, and even included a note saying Acerak had replaced them from the adamantine ones because he was tired of adventurers stealing them.

seeing our lost brethren are finally ready to join us with this thread being the clear winner in popularity

it's time for a new thread
>>96901707
>>96901707
>>96901707

LONG LIVE /OSRG/ !

>>96901219
>how to say "i am a nuw d n d fuckwit"
it was a tournament
it isnt a "module for tournaments" that would imply it was published and put on shelves for the express purpose of being used at events after the first time. you dont know shit son.
go role play a gatekeeper on reddit, they wont know .
all the modules from tournaments got published for home play, it wasnt puublished and then used in tournaments.
fucking dipshit i swear to god.

>>96901684
Hey, ultra-bad railroading GM whose players don't have ideas anymore because you've bullied all any thoughts out of them, shut the fuck up. You've been playing wrong, and I'll explain to you why.
You are a piece of shit. This is well known, as you've proven in this thread. You're always either passive-aggressive or just straight-up retarded and hostile.
>Letting the players know about the potential consequences of their actions before allowing them to take them is stripping them of agency
Ah, the classic and worst thing passive-aggressive shitbag DMs do: railroad PCs with "UMMM, are you SURE you want to do that?" whenever they want to do something you don't want them to do.
>For fuck sakes people like you are an embarrassment to this hobby
Maaaan, shut the fuck up. You're the kind of retard whose players can't even grab a chair without you trying to passive-aggressively bully them out of the idea.

>>96901169
1 excellent taste in muppets
2 it goes way beyond tomb of horrors. any time a gm adds something fantastic and abnormal players will want it. if that means dissassembling the sandbox itll happen. i remember the first time a gm put a big supersteel door to block me from a villains secret sewer base in an old game of champions. you bet i smashed the brick walls appart and took that shit.

>>96901778
Yes that's exactly what it means. It was a module written for a tournament. And in that tournament, you were not after treasure (XP), as you were being scored on multiple discrete conditions, with each independent player having their own final score.
Just because you discovered D&D recently and cannot comprehend context, doesn't mean that the rest of us are as ignorant or retarded as yourself.

>>96901815
You seem to have missed >>96901720

>>96901793
Just because you're a nogames and a troll, doesn't mean you have to try this hard.
Take some time off to actually play the game, and work on your material.

>>96901834
>All attempted ad hominem, no actual rebuttal
Tell me again how a passive-aggressive shitbag DMs who railroad PCs with "UMMM, are you SURE you want to do that?" whenever they want to do something they don't want them to do are actually a good thing.

new thread

>>96901707
>>96901707
>>96901707

>>96901874
SEA FAGGOTS! ASSEMBLE!

>>96901874
Best thread in a while, Anon. Thanks for creating it.

>>96906370
>a clear demonstration of how insane the ACKS shill is

It's going to be useful in the future to use to warn people about him and what he's willing to do.