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>>96912473 (OP)
What am I looking at here?

>>96912473 (OP)
I'm still incredibly, devastatingly salty that all that goodness between the Reaving and Celestial packs got sidelined and postponed for Gothic (that even lacks Abomination models because they're cowards).
And knowing how the industry works, the fact that they lied through their teeth that "it didn't impact other products" makes it worse.

>>96912473 (OP)
Damn, Fox Patrol is getting a box?
>Another fucking Marauder

>>96912473 (OP)
What is this image for ant

Remember when pic related was meant to be a new thing?

>>96912473 (OP)
I wonder how the protomechs will be redesigned.
Will they leave them as they are or make them more mechanical.

>>96912605
No.

>>96912473 (OP)
>Hell’s Horses box
>Sea Fox box
>two Jade Falcons boxes
>two Ghost Bear boxes
>THREE Wolf boxes
>zero Snow Ravens

The devs fear the true greatest clan

>>96913101
Clan Wolverine?

>>96913101
They get Aces box

>>96913101
>No Ravens
>No Clan Protectorate
They hate us, for they anus.
>>96912605
I really hope it's not vaporware

>>96913101
The Raven box would just be a set of BFS cards for airstrikes and orbital bombardment. No point giving them mechs when they should never even set foot on ground.

>>96913101
>>96912473 (OP)
>For Empire Alone, we looked at doing a Wolf OpFor for that box, but Catalyst had already planned three ForcePacks of Wolf-related miniatures, and we all felt it was enough. So I looked at what else is in the sourcebook and decided I would really like to see the Capellans as the opposing force. This box set is called Wrath and Reprisal, and it’s set in Capellan space along the border of the Duchy of Andurien.
>The third box will be based on Dominions Divided. There are two big chunks in this sourcebook. One is the Federated Suns/Draconis Combine border and the taking of New Avalon. The other big chunk of that book is the Ghost Bear Civil War in the Rasalhague Dominion—the dispute between the Joiners and the Deniers as to whether they’re going to join Alaric Ward‘s new Star League. So we ended up with the Snowblind box set. You get inserted into the civil war and have to deal with trying to keep the peace between two different sides of the Ghost Bear touman. It’s a nightmare contract full of ethical gray areas, and I love how it’s turned out.
>And finally, the fourth one is based on IlKhan’s Eyes Only, which is brand-new if you haven’t read it yet. Fantastic sourcebook—lots of really cool stuff happens in there. One of the new players that takes a bigger, more center-stage role in lKhan’s Eyes Only is the Raven Alliance—the Clan Snow Raven/Outworlds Alliance mashup. Box four is called Controlled Burn. You’re defending a planet on the border of the Federated Suns and Outworlds Alliance against a Snow Raven invasion.
So CGB gets 3 boxes then

>>96913171
>So CGB gets 3 boxes then
How many years until the fourth Aces box sees release, do you think?

>>96912605
>BattleTech Command
>picrel
idk man I genuinely think this has needed more time in the oven

>>96913410
That looks fucking stupid.

>>96913410
Wtf are those bases?

>>96913410
This looks like some kind of cross between chess, Risk, and Stratego, a cheap boadgame version of shovelware.

I just want another turn based BT vidia, am I asking too much

>>96913549
I'd like another strategy game. Honestly HBStech was a perfectly adequate 6.5/10 game that became an 8/10 when you ignored the story and used one of the big mods. I think they should do a sequel set in the Jihad or something.

>>96913574
>I think they should do a sequel set in the Jihad or something.
Why in the fuck would you think this? Advancing the era of the game is the number one proven method to FUCK UP. Even today CGL has to include evergreen mechs in their boxes to make sales, why? BECAUSE INTROTECH IS THE MOST POPULAR ERA.
Every advancement of era loses you player interest, it is financially retarded to base a game in late eras.

>>96913688
Fuck you, the Jihad is cool.

>>96913688
I doubt most vidya players know or care about eras.

>>96913410
Isn't this just battleforce?

>>96913549
Even Halo did not get a new strategy game. Microsoft does not see profit in them, except Age of Empires 2.

>>96913574
Aurigans need to be erased and the Bullshart is the new Ragnarok.

>>96913786
They allowed Halo Wars 2 but refused to release it on any other platform except the Xbox store. Microsoft is more keen on cancelling and killing all its existing IP's. Probably going to end up pulling out the vidya market altogether eventually.

>>96912013
>>96912084

The new guy is bringing the Steiner scout squad; he's got the Thunderbolt, Banshee, Blackjack, and Wolfhound. I'm going to try and bring honor to the Dragon with a Cyclops, Catapult, Shadow Hawk, and Jenner. In hindsight, this guy was pretty deep into competitive 40k and Warmahordes, so I should have seen this coming. I guess losing dramatically is some pretty good advice though. I think the plan is deny LoS as long as possible then backstab/karate him if I need to fight him, but I'm hoping the mission will let me leverage the few advantages I have.

>>96913847
The point the other anons are making is that if you actually want this guy to stick around and play more BT, you should absolutely hand him a win on his first game or two; stack the deck in his favor and just take the opportunity to run some of those less-than-optimal but still fun mechs. You’ll get blown up and lose but the other guy has a good time, feels good about the game, and is likely to come back for more. If you’re playing to win by using delay tactics, breaking LoS, or running off with the objective, that’s not as much fun for the new guy.

>>96913847
Could just show up with a lance of 8/0 Charger 1A1's and introduce him to KickyTech?

>>96913847
You fucked up by letting him make his own lance for an intro game. You should have made his lance for him to include mechs that taught him basic principles like heat management, movement profiles and TMM, missile clusters, range bands, et cetera, while also giving your own force a handicap that lets him beat you.

Pulse lasers being more accurate makes no sense. Its a laser, it goes straight.

>>96914027
>>96913975
>>96913925
Maybe what I'll do then is play a standard deathmatch game with him first, then for the second game swap lances and play an objective game.

>>96914124
The to-hit bonus represents the fact they cause damage faster, so you need less time on target to cause the same amount of damage, so effectively making it easier to hit since a slightly less accurate shot with a pulse laser is basically the same as a slightly more accurate shot with a regular laser. It doesn't do more damage because the pulse effect makes it less accurate so it can't spend more time on target.
I made all that up just now.
It's easy when you don't care.

>>96914148
>Maybe what I'll do then is play a standard deathmatch game with him first, then for the second game swap lances and play an objective game.
Might be a good option, since as a potential WAAC fag it would at least enlighten him to other types of gameplay.

Give it to me straight, putting the lore aside for a sec is Jihad era actually fun to play and worth getting into?

For posterity, a hero.
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>>96909260
>>96909237
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>>96908928
>>96908888

Does your back hurt from carrying such a thick meaty cock all day?

>>96914354
In what way? When I think Jihad, I think Level-II's, C3I, and head lasers.

So with all the faggotry that is Gothic, Homo Patrol shit aimed at kids, does anyone know what has been delayed and what hasn’t? Is there any updated release schedule? I give zero fucks about the queerness that is proto-mech minis, and can wait on celestials but where are things in development/release?

How about a Marik themed box with an ON1-V Orion, ON1-VA Orion, ON2-M Orion and a Perseus (with optional parts?)

Do an OST box with OSR-3C, OSR-2Cb, OSR-2M Ostroc and OTL-4F Ostsol.

Another Marik Box: WHM-8M Warhammer, OTL-7M and OTL-8M Ostsols and RFL-7M Rifleman

So many potential cool options for house sets.

Variants please.

>>96913688
I don't give a fuck about Jihad, so it's perfectly fine when the game devs take liberties with the setting.

>>96913847
That's not a steiner scout squad dipshit, he just didnt take deliberate shit mechs. He took a stock blackjack and Thud he didnt even try to game it with the jumping thud or the steiner model. The Banshee is covered in guns and looks cool, which appeals to new players and the Wolfhound is also the only light that on paper looks worth a damn and also is his only energy zombie. Sounds like youre going to be a maggot and chase him off which is probably a good thing for him in the long run.

>>96914381
>here's a bunch of mechs that look almost the same.
If you're going to do a marik box, why not have them be marik specific variants of other mechs by era instead of mechs everyone has?
Introtech: AWS-8T, TBT-5S, WVR-6M, HER-2M

>>96914354
All the toys are available and everyone is fighting each other. Its a big sandbox where anything goes. Yes its fun.

>>96914473
Those would also be welcomed. It was just an example. You could mix it up with whatever and agree about the era. What I listed are just some of the variants I’d like to see in plastic/metal mini form.

Considering the fancy equipment the second Bounty Hunter had that subsequent Bounty Hunters use (Nighthawk Mk. XXX Light Powered Armor and the advanced DropShip Le Blanc), would it be that the first Bounty Hunter was a Comstar ROM agent who was ordered to make the legend of the Bounty Hunter as a psy-op and that it was continued when a successor who was given all those fancy toys and the "Tradition" needed to be studied by the successor?

I theorized this because only ComStar would have such advanced equipment throughout those centuries of LosTech. Now, if the Bounty Hunter/s was orchaestrated by ComStar, why? I believe ComStar did this as yet another way to influence events across the Inner Sphere, especially if the targets taken down by the Bounty Hunter prevented any of the Successor States from taking over the Inner Sphere.

We're going to Tukyayyid boys!

https://mw5clans.com/news/2025/11/172-new-clans-dlc-wolves-of-tukayyid

>>96914589
Comstar actually doesn't have much of a handle on Nighthawk armor, they wouldn't intentionally let a one of a kind prototype out into the world. They intended to keep their Tornado knockoffs a secret.

>>96914675
>Virtually no SLDF equipment or mechs taking part
>No IS BA
Its going to be shit

>>96914675
Also looks like we got a new PGI model for the Naga

>>96914728
Fucking hell that looks derpy. Looks like an amateur mod on Nexus?

/btg/, I need some advice. I'm a returning CBT veteran and I'm loving this resurgence after some really hard years for both me and BT. Things are different now, though. I have two junior MechWarriors with me, aged 9 and 7. We've played a single game of CBT with just a single mech per person and while the lads handled it pretty well and were definately on board with the carnage of steel and amplified light, they were exhausted after the game.
Now I'm thinking I should try to make it easier on the kids, but I already made all the calculations and stuff and just told them what they needed to roll. I really don't want to houserule everything to be more simple either, they really dig the big awesome robots and their mechanics.
The question is, could Alpha Strike work? It gets a pretty bad rep here and I understand the sentiment, but would it work as a learning tool since it is so much simpler and faster?

>>96914746
It's a clan mech, most of them are derpy, have you seen the Mandrill?

>>96915106
It's much simpler and faster because it doesn't have any of the cool mechanical parts.
Try the system in Mechwarrior Destiny. It still has stuff like hit locations.

>>96915106
The "Override" rule set is a nice middle ground.

>>96914746
To be honest, it's the Naga. It's kind of hard to not make it look derpy.

I think i Like iic mechs more than the clan orginal mechs

>>96915410
What a bold and controversial statement

>>96915106
Either Destiny or Override, really.

>>96915106
Just use shittier mechs. Find the thinnest skin variant of each one.

>>96915106
>playing with kids i recently kidnapped
Alpha strike is the way to go, unironically. way simpler.

>>96914290
If he is a WAACfag then there's no saving him, we don't want him in the community, and the only cure is a high velocity lead injection. Don't teach him, don't run the demo, and tell him outright that BT isn't a game for him. This is exactly when gatekeeping IS a good thing, actually.

>>96915447
Yet true for many.

>>96915106
Whatever you do, avoid Alpha Strike.

Override works, or just use the damn intro box rules. No IS, no critical hits; a location is destroyed when it runs out of armor. That way you're still teaching them the actually good game, but you're cutting the time needed to play by 1/3 to 1/2. Also, don't use fast jumpy units. NEA gave me this advice years ago about running demo games, and he's 100% right. Don't use any unit that can generate a +3 or higher modifier from jumping ever, and ideally only gains a +3 if running in a straight line (or with only a single hexside change). People learn by actually landing shots, so you need to make sure that they can hit more regularly. Don't ever do teaching games with fast or jumpy light Mechs. Centurions, Enforcers, Blackjacks, Vindicators, Whitworths, and Shadow Hawks are all good teaching Mechs. Bugs, Jenners, Phoenix Hawks, and Wolverines and Griffins are bad.

>>96914711
I believe you’ll get “Clan Buster” variants if any were missed so far and all the applicable ComStar variants found in the latest Tukayyid Sourcebook.

However, a Spartan, Shootist, Excalibur, Striker, Galahad, Wyvern, Flashman, Guillotine, Crockett, etc would be appreciated.

Maybe that’s being saved for the next MW5 DLC, play as ComStar at Tukayyid.

Would be a purchase for me as I have not/wont play MW5 Clans.

>>96915106
Allow me to briefly explain why everyone is telling you to steer away from Alpha Strike:
Simply put, it hardly has any of the rules or even flavor of CBT's gameplay. They're effectively two different games only connected by the setting and miniatures you use. Little if anything you teach your kids through AS will carry over into CBT. The best you can hope for is that they'll like stompy robots long enough that when they're ready for FASA's autism they'll be game enough to make the massive leap.
It's a very poor learning tool for CBT at best or an outright detriment at worst. That said, if your sole goal is to play mech battles with them via any means necessary it could be a compromise.
>We've played a single game of CBT with just a single mech per person and while the lads handled it pretty well and were definately on board with the carnage of steel and amplified light, they were exhausted after the game.
On the other hand, if they were game enough to stick out for that and they're still open to another game then I'd consider running a loosely connected RPG campaign via Destiny.
Hope that helps.

Auto-cannons shall rise to greatness once again.

>>96916285
It's going to be bare bones as hell. If they are not going to give Comstar their iconic mechs why bother doing them? Also I had a look and its the Bravo Assault Star you're playing as. Think also playing as a chick again?

G'day

What the hell is gothic? I ask as someone who knows nothing about battle tech but recognises a few mechs and as vaguely aware it's set in many timeframes

>>96917033
A what if we tried to make Doom in Battletech but not that fun and try to get le 40k audience while we're at it!

>>96917033
TL;DR: It's a meme that was funded to be an actual product without any feedback from the community and with no one asking for it.

>>96917050
Herb said it sold well so the community must have loved it! :^)

>>96917033
It's an alternative universe sort of thing where stuff is much more grim and dark. Darkly grim, if you would. The alt universe stuff before this was either April Fools or Halloween, as small PDFs or one-shot RPG adventures. This one is an entire box set and is not related to either holiday directly.

>>96917033
>What the hell is gothic?
Mechs vs monsters. Lore is that special parasites were discovered during the Age of War that allow for splicing of DNA which lead to the creation of all sorts of artificial creatures ranging from man sized(which includes altered humans) to building sized kaiju. The setting itself is bleaker than canon because the war crimes of the early succession wars never ended and humanity is worse off.

>>96917056
I actually do love it. It has a fun interesting premise plus the fact I hate the IlClan era and don't care much for everything after 3025 means I don't care about it supposedly "taking away" resources from the mainline setting. I hope that it develops its own dedicated niche community but sadly I don't think it'sactually going to happen.

>>96917056
They used the funding from mercenaries to buy almost all of it themselves.

>>96917148
Oh look at that, a "3025 Forever" guy likes Gothic. It's like all of your opinions are shit or something.

>>96916923
Perhaps, but there was plenty of new variants for IS mechs in SoK.
Seems like low effort/decent reward so possible.
Came across a JM6-B2 Jagermech in SoK today, new to me anyways.
But, like stated before…won’t play Clans so the next DLC is a pass.

Remember, Clans are like toilet paper. Lot’s of different brands, but still nothing more than asswipes.

>>96917236
>Remember, Clans are like toilet paper.
Clan bidding process means that they routinely bid down the toilet ply.

>>96917148
The lore would be the smallest of crimes out of the Gothic release.

The minis are out of scale with standard minis, creatures are included without creature creation rules, the timeframe appears to have pushed back so other products aren't appearing on their estimated schedule.

I could accept experimentation and spinoff products if they didn't fuck them up and make them less compatible with mainline products.

>>96917191
Maybe the Clans shouldn't be so shit then and the current era not be the Clans conquer everything. Thr Clan Invasion era introduced the Clans and made them stick around. The FCCW had so much much stupid writing. And while the Jihad was cool it was sadly just filling in the blanks that the stupid Dark Age introduced.

Does the stuff after 3025 introduce some cool looking mechs and some fun tech? Yeah it does but it doesn't make up for the setting being less interesting

>>96917289
I very much doubt a single box set absolutely destroyed their entire timeline rather than CGL being a bit too overconfident combined with Trump's tariffs fucking everything up. As for the size difference it's not that big.

2bh BT really comes into its own by FCCW. With succ wars too boring and CI too hectic.

>>96917340
They blaimed the delay on Aces

Is Jihad really that bad? Or everyone hate it because it's an endtime before Aos (Dark Age)

>>96917445
Read a summary and see if you can count the number of times key character motivations were retconned and double secret true masterminds were revealed.

>>96917445
So imagine you were big into Battletech, been following it since say, the clan invasion. All these characters and units that you've been following for years, reading books about, you've maybe even painted up some mechs in their colors. Then all of a sudden it's the "dark age" and all these people, units, and even factions are gone, they died in the 'jihad', quite unceremoniously in most cases. That's why people dislike the Jihad, but the Jihad is (probably) only bad because of Dark Age. If the Jihad had naturally followed from the FCCW, it would have been better and more well received.

>>96917483
So literally endtime

>>96917445
The Jihad is actually cool. The Blakist had been brewing in the sidelines for a while, really. Then when it looks like the setting is about to return to the boring status quo of Great Houses bickering and Clans clanning, the Blakists bring out new ideas and technologies and both figuratively and litetally nuke the setting. It was a much needed shake up, and anybody crying about their favorite characters needs to realize the alternative at that point was dying of old age because they had been around a long time by then. Bad writing? It's fucking Battletech, the lore has always been embarassing.

>>96917340
A single one? No. But as it happens if you tie up production on niche product to jam it out on time, everything else slides.

And when your minis are 28mm tall, a millimeter is a lot to change.

>>96917289
>creatures are included without creature creation rules
Also without miniatures to represent them.

>>96914675
>playing Clan Wolf on Tukayyid
daring, aren't we

>>96917458
>>96917551

As a filthy robe, I gotta say both of these guys are right. The main plot points get mega retarded, but the tech and the little stories are some of the best in the series. Every little simmering grudge gets attention. Every old crazy tech sees the light of day. New things are advanced that haven't moved since the Star League days like hyperspace technology.

Then there was having to try and guess what was real each Hotspots book as the previous one tells you what was real in the timeline of the subsequent one. Only Blake Documents really fucked that up. Man, 3074 could have been so much more of a wild ride.

Anyway, Blake Eliason! Etc.

who did the Gray Death Legion support during the FedCom Civil War?

>>96917340
>As for the size difference it's not that big.

>CGL minis already scale-creeped
>Let's creep some more on hexes that haven't changed sizes since 1984
Boy howdy, that's asinine.

>>96917445
It’s shit plot wise because it was used to backfill the space between the FCCW and the Dark Age, the Dark Age being fundamentally retarded. If it had grown organically from 3067 it probably wouldn’t have been so dumb. Everything else about it is cool, nukes and new units and tech and conspiracies and cyberpunk religious fanatics cyborgs and whatnot.

>>96917590
Krazy Kat.

>>96917590
Lyran Alliance and "House Steiner."

>>96917585
Jihad was based and the WoB was double-based

>one division wiping out a galaxy of tubescum
>the Dyev counterattack
>half the com guards defecting to join WoB
>WoB gives the Taurians a warship and sets them loose
>Manei Domini, nuff said
>the scouring of Tamar
>the Dante op

it was awesome, praised Blake

>>96917576
Well, they said they are making an Abominations forcepack

>>96917340
>As for the size difference it's not that big.
The mechs already overhang the hex bases and the whole fucking point of bases on miniatures is to make them stand stable which means the base must exceed the footing of the miniature.

>>96917590
Lyrans sort of

>>96917585
>Then there was having to try and guess what was real each Hotspots book as the previous one tells you what was real in the timeline of the subsequent one. Only Blake Documents really fucked that up.
Can you elaborate on this?

>>96917615
>sold separately
What's worse is that it's something you can't even use in a normal game.

>>96917613
>>WoB gives the Taurians a warship and sets them loose

The Vendetta campaign was top Jihad.
>Fuck New Syrtis
>Fuck your Foxes
>Fuck your shipyards
>"So, are you gonna help your actual army against the Roughriders or do anything other than ortillery raidfuck the Outback?"
>NO!

>>96917645
>article of pure seething by a fedrat
lol it was worth it

>>96917627
All the Jihad sourcebooks are presented as news articles and recordings, which can be misinformation or fake. There's fun stuff like people falling for falseflags that we don't figure out until later or the mirror comp WoB Militia Divisions that confuse people or seemingly insane stuff like the same MD division deploying half the sphere away a month later before we learn about superjumps.

It's "Takashi didn't die in his sleep." on a whole 'nother level without novels to sort it out. The best we have is the timelines in the book that got published after the one the previous year and Dev clarifications. Plus, some final adjustments in Final Reckoning.

Oh, and we had the apex of Fan fuckery in the last greatest gasp of the canon games with the legendary Team Cincy actions at places like Dieron.

>>96917657
Best part is they get away with the whole thing Scott-free and take their warship home at the end. Most successful military campaign the Taurians have had since before the Reunification War.

>>96917613
Operation SHOWTIME is the peak of the whole setting and I do not care what grogs say.
Franken + custom gladiator mechs vs the highest of high tech blakists. Perfection.

>>96917688
god i wish they could fit warships in more

the 3050s and 60s were fucking peak

>>96917689
I like the Blakist raids and assaults that took all the Lyran industrial worlds

That shit was strategic on a whole new level. The Com Guards and Word of Blake Militia really were the heirs of the SLDF, the Clans were just shite lol

>>96917582
and playing Natasha Kerensky's granddaughter it seems.

>>96917715
Gay

>>96917715
lol
i love playing as the faction with literally the easiest go of it

why fight in the Devil's Bath, or with Aidan Pryde, or in the Dindu nuffin wrong pass?
or god forbid as the Com Guards, pitting a force with no combat experience and a technological inferiority against an army bred for warrior with the best technology humanity has.

>>96917711
>god i wish they could fit warships in more
Same. That's the best part about IlClan for me is they're bringing them back along with the alternative mechs. Would make for the best setting for a StarSector mod since there's no aerospace tech pigeonholding.

>>96917744
Can't disagree with your digits there bud. I have no idea why they did the Wolves of all factions at Tukayyid? Literally anyone else would have been better and way more interesting.
>Inb4 but le Wolves won
Yeah and the only faction that frankly enjoyed themselves and got a good story out of it were the Falcons who incidentally had to be reminded that they needed to capture an objective not simply get lost in a killing frenzy.

Unless this plays up to the fact that Wolves are insufferable and we get to see more Uncle Cordy this DLC will be terrible.

Imagine just not playing videogames, ever.

>>96917783
I miss talking with NEA about warships and squadrons and stuff like that.

I love 'Mechs, and they're most of the gameplay, but WarShips are so fun.

The FWL Field Manual with the section of their new warship fleet was probably the peak of that sourcebook series.

>>96917791
Yeah the Falcons had to actually work for their draw.

By the time the Wolves even landed, Tukayyid was pretty much decided. Which is why I think ComStar didn't just swamp them in troops and wipe them out.

>>96917841
>Be Clan Wolf
>Show up
>Win
>Claim you are the best Clan ever and everyone should bow down to you

>Be any other Clan
>Have to actually commit forces and engage an enemy resists
>Gain victory after at least having to fight for it
>Get snubbed by Wolves who simply just get handed victory by walking in without engaging a single opponent

The fact that all the Clans just didn't come together and eradicate the arrogant Wolves the first chance they got is a mystery? All the Wolf smurfs are about to come out the woodwork soon I reckon to lick their own testicles.

I've decided to reread the Wolf Sourcebook because of this announcement and did they ever do anything with the implied massive desertions in Wolf ranks or did the writers just conveniently forget that was meant to be a thing? Still chuckling that its pretty much "Do as I say not what I do!" with their attitude to other Clans.

How do you guys deal with all the pepperoni juice when you're painting your mechs?

GOLIATH SCORPION FOR LIFE!

I LOVE NECROSIA!

>>96917886
I don't know what it is you are asking about.

>>96917590
I was today years old when I realized what a huge influence Battletech was on the Gundam spinoff OAVs.
>Eledore looks exactly like Grayson Caryle
>The Cyclops Team has guys named Steiner, Wiseman (Weissman) and Kaminsky (Kerensky)
>0083 had designs by studio Nue with a lot of the same style as their BattleTech illustrations, like huge feet and greebles everywhere.

>>96918002
You're a fucking idiot if you believe any of that

>>96916922
>40mm
So a AC2?

>>96917613
>>96917645
>giving the Taurians a Warship
Absolutely one of the best things to happen in canon, watching the seethe from Fedrats and Hanson's Bareback players was absolutely HILARIOUS.
>lol the Taurians surrender the Warship and the Roughriders get to nuke civilians without consequences from the MRB or FedSuns
And there's the Battletech writers at it again.

>>96917689
I'll admit, the imagined top for me and 'my dudes' is taking on Wobbies with bastardized unrecognizable helm refit shitboxes and winning.

Peak battletech to me is a dude in an Enforcer standing over a Preta-- and when his lance mate asks 'how'd you pull that off' he says 'I'm gonna be honest, I have no idea.'.

>>96917980
Like you know how when you're painting your mechs, and you're eating the pepperoni, the juices, the grease, they just get all over your hands, the brushes, the model, gives everything a kind of orangey color and the fingerprints remain visible even after you paint over them, or the primer doesn't stick properly and it flakes off. How do you stop that from happening?

>>96918129
My idle jihad daydream story that I'm never going to write down is about a mechwarrior who used to be in a real military unit with a real mech (a Phoenix Hawk, specifically) but then they got smashed and trashed and now he's out fighting with some ragtag resistance group, piloting a Hector of all things because that's what the local chopshop was able to retool their industrial refit line to before they got blown up (It's a real battlemech, they said, it's huge compared to your old one, they said!) and then he 1v1s a Buccaneer while the rebels do a prison break.

>>96912473 (OP)
....

Man that's a lot of shit I don't give a fuck about.

Out of all that I don't even think there is 5 things I care about. The Kurita box with the Venom. The Uziel box... maybe the Ghost Bear one? The Grenadier BA? The Celestials.... maybe?
God damn that's a lot of clan shit.

>>96918218
The Fox Patrol box seems really weird to me. A Kit Fox and then four evergreen mechs, three of which are usually in high demand. I almost wonder if it's not bait ("see, they like the Fox Patrol, look at how many of the packs with the Marauder, Griffin, and Locust in it we sold!")

>>96918175
I have never experienced that, as I am foreverally tied up fully delitized with mu organs and inside and literally my whole body changed into a permanent living bologna version with permanent living bologna organs and insides and a permanent bologna, ham and cream cheese tongue. nose is a permanent pastrami nose and has two permanent ham lips and two permanent bologna and ham ears. Fully wrapped like a mummy, tiedup this way to remain and always jumping around with a permanent smile on my face and a wide open permanent bologna mouth speaking constantly ready to lick anyone or anything with his permanent Bologna, ham and cream cheese tongue.

>>96918175
Just lick it off, my guy

>>96918175
Bro, the grease is supposed to go to the maitre d. That's why he's standing there with the little towel. Have you been making him go home hungry?

>>96918249
There originally weren't any plans for a Fox Patrol box until a bunch of Bryans sycophants begged CGL to do one

I dunno how should I feel about the Taurians. When I'm about to get sympathetic about then they just go overboard to 11

>>96917874
>and did they ever do anything with the implied massive desertions in Wolf ranks or did the writers just conveniently forget that was meant to be a thing?

You mean the Refusal War and the Exile?

>>96914675
>naga
>and wield the tactical power of Arrow IV and Artillery Strikes.

I'm getting hyped.

what happened to no dlc?

>>96914675
Shame that the nukes are not yet available

>>96914124
Pulse lasers see where each pulse leaves and adjust as they fire.

>>96914187
Based apathy anon

>>96918218
>Out of all that I don't even think there is 5 things I care about.
For me it's just these
>Kurita boxes + kage support BA because Drac best IS house
>Wars of Reaving cuz Society best Clan Faction
>Celestials cause Jihad best era
>Ares cuz tripod
>Hells Horse for Doom Courser, Sea Fox cuz MK II
The best boxes there seem to be made for FCCW

>>96918406
I want that Ostwar.

How big would a mechscale Union be?

Has anyone tried the DFA Override rules but using the Alpha Strike range brackets? I've tried Override now but I don't see how its much faster than CBT when it's the same process of trudging into range to even shoot. Seems like if the ranges were just based on AS instead then you just start shooting after the first round and stuff can start dying.

>>96918315
Unbelievably creepy, cringe and sickening.

And gay.

Nasty K says hi
>How old is she at this point again?

>>96918447
Warhammer silhouette for scale.

>>96918440
Same.

I’m concerned the OSR-3M Ostroc is going to be a slightly reposed (if even that) OSR-2C Ostroc, as they could look exactly the same. Should’ve been the OSR-3C Ostroc with the 3 large lasers. OTL-9R Ostsol? Really!?! Odd choice when there are so many other options.
Hopefully they all look cool.

>>96917148
>the fact I hate the IlClan era and don't care much for everything after 3025
You literally bought into a new product made in the same spirit of all the change you say you hate.
You are either dense or literally a deceptive wordweasel.

>>96918473
Damnit, bigger than my print plate
>>96918491
I'm going to guess I have to print it in parts

>>96918447
Like this?

>>96918509
These people never looked past "the wolfs win on Terra" to see what the era was actually like anywhere that wasn't Terra. They didn't see that basically every mech they ever loved has an updated and playable variant even this late in the timeline. They don't see the possibilities for /yourdudes/ in the chaos. Why? Because they are nogames faggots.

>>96918555
>nogames faggots.
Isn't that nuBT's target audience now?
I mean, literally, not just in jest.

even funnier: iL-Clan is not about the Clans winning: it's very quickly turning into
"Everyone now has both types of tech"
and
every last Inner Sphere group or Clan dissident that has access to any weapons decides to do (below)
against any sort of clan rule
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqQdbevaB-Q&list=RDPqQdbevaB-Q&start_radio=1

>>96914676

Fair. Alternatively, maybe the first Bounty Hunter was an SLDF soldier who, after refusing to be in Operation EXODUS, somehow found the Le Blanc and an unused Nighthawk Mk. XXX and became the Bounty Hunter (but didn't use the Nighthawk since there wasn't any in-universe mention of the Bounty Hunter's suit when he or she eliminated the El Giza bank robbers and delivered the corpses to House Humphreys in 2925) and that the second Bounty Hunter was a ROM agent who found out about who the Bounty Hunter was, murdered him or her, and was ordered to be the second Bounty Hunter as the psyop, even to the point of wearing the Nighthawk and to make a legend that one MechWarrior would wear an example of LosTech.

>>96918586
The Bounty Hunter Nighthawk is in very poor shape until after Helm and the BA renaissance. It might not have had any functionality at all during the succession wars beyond being very heavy body armor.

>>96913132
Silly bird, Snow Ravens are for Battlefield Support ASF packs.

>>96914027
this

>>96914148
you should have had a griffin v griffin 'race' match accross some map sheets so he can learn about running and jumping, terrain etc.

then you should have had a 'trapshoot' match where you run through an 'obstacle course' with 'pop up targets' you have to shoot.

>bonus points this all simulates mechwarrior training AS your friend learns the game

(fastest 'time' ''wins'')

and finally you have a 'graduate' match of griffin v griffin, or shadowhawk v. shadowhawk.

so he first learns to move and terrains etc.

then he adds shooting and heat etc.

THEN he learns about damage and los-ing and so on.

AFTER that you add on matches of lance v lance.

>>96916922
THIS IS A BLUE BOARD! MODS! ANON IS POSTING PORN! HARDCORE PORN!

>>96917590
Their contract. Not that it did them much good. Fuck Skye.

>>96917645
They literally say the final solution to the capellan problem. Shit man. Maybe I should paint up a lance of Davion man.

>>96918555
Too true
Advanced BATTLE TECHNOLOGY > Terra Metaplot (noone will hold it forever anyway lol) always.

>>96918612

Whether it worked or not, no Successor State even had a Nighthawk so it's not like anyone from the Successor States could have argued on whether the Bounty Hunter's Nighthawk was genuine or not. Compare to how the Draconis Combine could only resurrect Aleksandr Kerensky's Orion after they discovered it into a standard ON1-K due to the advanced equipment Kerensky used in the Orion being LosTech and when given the Orion, Theodore Kurita simply had the Orion painted in the same shade of green as Star League Defense Force mechs.

>>96918572
>Isn't that nuBT's target audience now?
>I mean, literally, not just in jest.

>>96918713
When they got Kerensky's Orion it had been stripped down to a bare skeleton. They had to cross reference serial numbers to find out whose Orion it was.

>>96918612
His suit might not even be Nighthawk but just an advanced SLDF/Star League era Mechwarrior Combat Suit.

>>96918742
It's definitely a Nighthawk, it has stats. It's technically possible to field a squad of The Bounty Hunter (Nighthawk Mk. XXX) even though there's only the one individual suit.

>>96918761
Specifically it's been written as both

Although vees have a crew, can they operate with a crew of one? They are futuristic, right? Shouldn't they usually come with commander override for all of the controls?

>>96918742
Its a Night Hawk but they didn't really say anything about it till around 2008.

Till then it was just a suit of Mechwarrior Combat armor you can wear while piloting a mech.

>>96919098
I wish Mechwarrior combat armor was more of a thing. Well, powered combat armor like the Nighthawk was used. In the newer eras, there's a bunch of PA(L) that could probably fit a similar bill, like the Gladiator or Tunnel Rat.

>>96916168
Oh wow, a person with a shitty attitude giving bad advice, who would've thought?

>>96919137
I think generally you'd just switch out to a combat jacket or something if you had to get out of the mech and fight. Standard neurohelmets are actually pretty robust, with bullet resistance similar to low end infantry helmets, and those big boots that mechwarriors wear are usually heavy duty armored combat boots that are actually more protective than what the average grunt wears (for some reason). Even the cooling vest has protection in the same realm as slim/concealed armor, although it's much bulkier.

>>96919216
For me, it's less about the conventional ballistic protection and more about the environmental protection and myomer assistance since that would allow an ejection on hostile planets.

I'm still not sure whether you can pilot a mech while wearing the PA(L) or not. Does BH take his armor off while in the cockpit and put it back on when he goes outside the mech?

>>96919246
It's implied somewhere that the BH has had special modifications made to his mechs cockpits. Whether that's just paying someone to make upscaled controls or some sort of experimental star league lostech thing is unclear.

>>96919216
>Standard neurohelmets are actually pretty robust, with bullet resistance similar to low end infantry helmets,
They're also depicted as being large, and resting on the mechwarriors shoulders. Yoy want to be able to turn your head and stuff when having to survive outside the mech.

Why is Clan Jade Falcon so fucking crazy

>>96919374
Because it's managed by inbred weirdos who spent their entire youths being abused and raped?

>>96918476
>>96918467
Oh sweet. It looks like they hired new artists, or learned how to fix their absurd mouth rigs.

>>96918738
I wonder what part they consider to be the Orion for serial number purposes. Like, each part of the internal structure can be replaced individually, and probably has. The engine can be replaced, the myomer...Definitely Mechs of Theseus. Maybe the IS of the center torso?

>>96916269
>Bugs, Jenners, Phoenix Hawks, and Wolverines and Griffins are bad.
>mfw my learning game for a friend had a Jenner + Vindicator versus Shadow Hawk + Wolverine
oops

>>96919374
The galaxy is a crazy place

>>96918467
If that's Tukayyid, she's 79.

Don't forget that she underwent plastic surgery a bajillion times. Shrapnel (the OG) has a medical report on her, done in 3030.

>>96919411
I can hear the falcon's cry in that image.

We need more MechWarrior games where you escort people to the opera.

>>96919098
So, what >>96918776 said

>>96919399
Practically speaking the serial numbers it had when it walked out of the the factory was its "true" number but after that you determine whether it is Kerensky's by keeping track of what replacement parts it received. Even if every single piece was replaced you can still figure it out based on what serial numbers were replaced by the current parts, and which ones those past parts replaced, until you eventually trace it to the original.

>>96918572
>Isn't that nuBT's target audience now?
Yeah, I got into BT earlier this year, but nobody plays it near me, My plan was to go sit in the lgs with a sign offering people games while letting them use a lender lance but all of the lgs where i lived closed before I could do that, so I just started playing against myself, but putting that on hold while i focus on painting

>>96919527
lel just like me except i don't have the patience or social skills to do the sign thing.
I Collect a whole bunch of 3d printed and CGL BT models and make different armys with them.
I've played a few games but mostly I played Mechwarrior games and that Battletech Xcomlike game, read the books alot.

>>96919527
no idea why, but your image forced me to buy gothic. Obviously not just your image, but that was the last straw for some reason.

I definitely want to paint a holographic skull into the cockpit glass of something though.

>>96919356
Quietly uncanonized for being overly stupid looking, like mechs without hips.

>>96919527
>>96919545

>>96919578
Not yet, the bucket neurohlemet is still in the newest Battletech Universe book.

>>96919426
So, this Japanese depiction could really have been her face at one point then

>>96918361
They saw how much milf DLC got them so they are trying their hands at gilf.

Could you have a mech with a giant crossbow and an attached cable? Maybe you could use it to reel in another mech or scale a mountain like a big grappling hook

>>96919664
Mech crossbow?

>>96919664
Harpoon SRMs

Rocket launchers seem like better SRMs. Why didnt anyone figure out how to internally reload them?

>>96919989
Basically that's what MRM's are.

>>96920017
The question is why no one did it sooner.

>>96920026
A lot of tech in BT makes me scratch my head. I get it was made in the 80s and is basically stuck there. But a lot of the tech problems were solved even back then.

>>96920026
Because FASA preferred Macross missiles.

How come Ulric didn't go Solahma when he didn't get his bloodname past 30 or something?

>>96920243
IIRC he was specifically waiting for a shot at the Kerensky blood name, not just the first one he could attempt, so his performance must've been good enough that his superiors recognized he was of sufficient caliber to earn a blood name.

>>96920243
Clans can be weird, pre-Refusal Wolves most of all

>our culture thinks warriors over 35 are weird!
>now meet all our khans and loremasters, most of whom seem to be in their 50s, 60s, and 70s

>>96920243
He was known to be an accomplished Warrior even without a Bloodname. I imagine he put it around that he was waiting for a particular Blood Legacy. Also maybe they tried and he Refused.

>>96920261
The two-tier system is commented on. In Warriors of Kerensky, it basically outright says that those with no Bloodname go to solahma at 35 while those with one get to live until they die, IIRC usually in their 50s or later.

Remember that the Khans and Loremasters are generally extraordinary individuals. The fact that Severen Leroux was in his 70s during the Invasion doesn't mean that there's a lot of 70 year old kicking around.

>>96917819
It's good he's gone and I wish you'd leave too. This game is about Mechs and your warship autism ruins these threads. Fuck off to an Armada thread if you want to talk about spaceships.

Clan are weird
>"hey, we have this genetically perfect warrior with 20 years of fighting under his belt, should we treat him with respect and learn from him?"
>"nah, give him a shit box to pilot and have him guard some base in the middle of nowhere"

>>96920357
Herb, go back to the official forum

>>96920362
This exact point is pointed out like a hundred times in fluff and fiction.

>>96920367
I don't care. It's stupid and canon needs to change to be less stupid.

>>96920362
I actually agree with the clan mentality.
Most warrior cultures went downhill the more old people were walking around.

>>96920388
The point of most warrior cultures was for lots of young men to die in battle so that the old men could have multiple wives.

>>96920388
>Most warrior cultures went downhill the more old people were walking around.
Every culture goes downhill the more old people they have walking around. Old people ruin everything. Just die already and get out of the way. Life should stop after 35.

>>96920413
Not 30?
it was 21 in the book

>>96920362
If this warrior has 20 years of fighting under his belt and is being sent to minor garrisons then they are not high ranking and possibly even bloodnamed, which clearly means they are not genetically perfect.

>Bloodnamed
>Star Colonel
>old
>in charge of Sibko, instead of fighting in frontline
I dunno if this guy is relegated/solahma or not

>>96920592
He is. Teaching is specifically stated to be the province of old worthless warriors.

He's a guy who achieved moderate success but not enough.

>>96920413
>35
>old

>>96920616
Yes

t. 37

>>96920530
That kind of just highlights the issues with the clans, they have no grasp of what good soldiering is about and get rekt because of it.

Mordel isn’t working for me, does anyone know of any IS mechs that have both autocannons and AMS? Seems a lot of designs with AMS are flashbulbs.

>>96920959
Use mekbay and its search filters

Anyone tried the new gear rules?

>>96920961
Doesn't seem like you can set the filters to 'AND', they default to or. Might be user error.

>>96920959
Open wide anon
https://mordel.net/tro.php?a=v&fltr=cp.0~ff.000.Designer~Contains~Catalyst%20Game%20Labs~ff.000.Technology%20Base~Equals~Inner%20Sphere~ff.000.Weapon~Like~autocannon~ff.000.Weapon~Like~Anti-Missile%20System
though I can tell you, no

>>96920404
and since clanners fuck their sibkin the need for old people is removed hence soloma kek
>>96920413
Trvke another reason why I vibe with the clans
Just kill me at 35 latest 40 desu

>>96921128
Also change filter of autocannon to LB if you want to look for LBX and ultra if you want UAC.

>>96921041
It's a checklist under the equipment dropdown.

>>96921041
You have to keep clicking the box until is turns into a plus symbol, apparently.

It amazes me just how much clan culture remains intact despite the clans being in the IS for so long.

What Battletech faction is closest to Eastern Europe or Russia?

>>96921571
Arguably they all end up compromised to varying degrees. It took the biggest retards in the Wolves and Falcons running off to Terra for those left behind to go more or less native, and the other clans were already doing that.. Clanners even end up hiring mercenaries more or less like any spheroid power. It's hard to imagine any invading clanner back in 3050 even considering such a thing. And then there's the fact that the IS powers issue batchals and conduct Trials against clanners sometimes, and the whole thing starts to get a little weird. There is clearly a synthesis emerging from the reality that the clanners have had to deal with the Great Houses on more or less equal terms for almost a 100 years. Not to mention the whole being kicked out of the Homeworlds thing.

>>96921616
Pre-XIN SHENG cappies. FWL has some eastern europe in them, but it doesn't tend to shine through.

>>96921616
Eastern Europe probably parts of the FWL. Russians have Tikonov in the Capellan Confederation.

>>96921161
>>96921128
Very much appreciate the spoonfeeding.

>>96921475
>>96921558
Also appreciate this tip.

>>96921648
>>96921658
The name Marik is Czech or Slovakian. Or maybe Hungarian, possibly with a bunch of accent marks like ř and í.

>>96921616
The Cappies are the generic Comblock (China, 'Nam, Korea, Soviet Union, Fu Manchu) faction, but most of the Slavs are in the FWL.

>>96918716
Im 90% mist of these posts are people trying to brag about stuff they got. If its incomplete, a dated mini, or after initial clan invasion I can understand but I've seen people doing this with CGL Shadow Hawks and King Crabs.

>>96919411
You know they say that all men are created equal, but you look at me and you look at a Marik and you can see that statement is not true. See, normally if you go one on one with another mechwarrior, you got a 50/50 chance of winning. But I'm a genetic freak and I'm not normal! So you got a 25%, AT BEST, at beat me. Then you add a Davion to the mix, your chances of winning drastic go down. See the 3 way at Bolan, you got a 33 1/3 chance of winning, but I, I got a 66 and 2/3 chance of winning, because the Davions KNOW they can't beat me and he's not even gonna try!
So Marik, you take your 33 1/3 chance, minus my 25% chance and you got an 8 1/3 chance of winning at Bolan. But then you take my 75% chance of winning, if we was to go one on one, and then add 66 2/3 per cents, I got 141 2/3 chance of winning at Bolan. See Burd, the numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at Bolan.

>>96921977
im gonna lose so much to this image...

>>96922198
Bvsed Falcon Chad is speaking
Do you agree with him?

Finally have all the mechs for my dcms company

What are we gonna get?

>>96922307
Atlases, SO MANY ATLASES!

>>96922307
A lot of pirate and Solaris mechs

>>96922307
Miniature of the planet Butte Hold.

>>96922307
Stop trying to make gothic happen, it's not going to happen

>>96922381
i like the king crab

>>96922307
The first three boxes are a Firestarter, Phoenix Hawk, and Drac Atlas. Weirdly, the mech card has it painted in CVC and and Cappie, and the pilot card has a Unistar Draclas on one side and a Steiner Steinlas on the other.

>>96922448
Then a Caplas, Scorpion, and another Phoenix Hawk. Turns out all the Atlases have the same cards. These might be the same cards that are in the box set.

>>96922487
And then... another Firestarter, Scorpion, and Draclas.
Not feeling super random here.

>>96922510
2nd case starting out strong-ish with a Scorpion, Rifleman, Burdlas, another Rifleman, Steinlas, and... ugh. Urbanmech.

>>96922554
And ending in a less than random fashion. Another Steinlas, another Urbantrash, and finally... yep, another Scorpion.
I'm seeing a pretty obvious pattern to how these were packed.

For those anons who do map campaigns, how do you determine lance's/unit's move per turn on the strategic scale, on the ground?

>>96922615
How many fucking atlas variants have they produced for this shit? I haven't been able to find comstar L2 for the past two years now, and they do this?

>>96922634
There are 5 Atlases, but they all have the same body. There should be 6 though since they have the Comstar Hegemony as a 6th successor state.

>>96918555
>These people never looked past "the wolfs win on Terra" to see what the era was actually like anywhere that wasn't Terra.
>>96918572
>even funnier: iL-Clan is not about the Clans winning

Except we already know how the entire thing is going to end which is the Clans conquering the entire Inner Sphere until 3250 when rebellion erupts. They may not be doing a big 100 year timeskip from Terra being taken to everything falling apart like they had initially planned and they may not be using the idea that only Inner Sphere mechs that weren't melted down belong to slave gladiators who are the only Inner Sphere mechwarriors left. But what they are keeping is the Clans winning completely.

>>96922831
Their whole idea from what I heard was basically "lets rip off Star Wars!" which totally is a sensible idea that won't backfire!

>>96922831
>the Clans winning completely.
>until 3250 when rebellion erupts
Not so complete then, is it?

>>96922877
>Not so complete then, is it?
It's complete enough that whatever happens the Inner Sphere looses. The Davions pushing back the Dracs and the CapCon? Doesn't matter because soon they'll get the shit kicked out if them by the Clans. The FWL maybe coming back together? Doesn't matter because the Clans will destroy it and the Mariks will left as little more than slave Gladiators(from the old preview). What happens when the Bears attack the Dracs as a distraction from their recent civil war? We all know they're going to win.

>>96922831
>Battletech
>with no great houses
Not happening because nobody would care about the era.

>>96922946
If only you knew how bad the things that were planned.

>>96912473 (OP)
The Steiner one with the Uziel and the Sea Fox one are the only ones I care about. The two Ghost Bear ones and the Wars of Reaving are a maybe.

>>96923035
MechAssault 3 looked cool, thougheverbeit.

>>96923048
The Reaving box seems especially weird to me. A cold intro to a part of the setting very few people care about and a unit type most people have never used or even seriously considered using, plus some mechs that are exclusive to that one time and place. That's the kind of thing I would expect to get a whole box, like a Wars of Reaving Aces, or something like the Gothic box but with an AGOAC style booklet that only has clan equipment and unit types in it.

>>96923035
>If only you knew how bad the things that were planned
Was part of the plan a soft reboot of the rules by creating vastly superior 3250 equipment that became the new stabdard so they could get rid of all different types of lasers, armor and other shit?

>>96923113
We zoids now?

>>96923035
>>96923113
That third Mechassault game proposed that Battletech Gothic would be the future.

>>96923190
Has been ever since Quads were a thing.

>>96922307
>>96922615
I dont know why there's salvage boxes when there's only 12 or so mechs counting the Atlas reskins.

Also have zero understanding why you would buy that many unless youre an online resaler

>>96923218
Quite the opposite from what we've seen.
Rather high tech.

>>96923267
I suspect it's not going to get a lot of reprints, so I'm just getting a collection before it becomes difficult to do so.

>>96922615
God those things are fugly.

Gothicfags are utterly braindead, npc programmed bots. They have no sentience.

>>96923747
Oh, hush.

>>96923832
You're literally, unironically doing the

>cons00m product! Now get excited for next product and cons00m product!

Meme.

You aren't a fucking person. You're an animal. Too dumb to sentience.

>>96923848
In case you missed it, most of this thread has been exclusively about "next products".

>>96923856
>herd mentality
You're not beating his accusations, lol.

>>96923035
Ghost bears would get a glow-up.

>>96923935
The disingenuous accusation? Don't need to.

>new thing bad
Yawn.

>>96923953
BT community could never even hope to handle Aryan Ghost Bears straight from Agartha

are the 40k mechs suppose to be slightly larger or is it that shitty scale creep again?

>>96924044
Supposedly they're supposed to be larger, but it's probably because the semi-soft chinese plastic they use couldn't hold the details at normal scale. Even with the increased size, some of those bas reliefs are muddy.

>Eridani Night Mares
>McCarron’s Abominable Cavalry
>Twenty-First Centauri Butchers
>Fox Marauders
>Wolf Hounds
>Lone Wolves
>Waco's Rangers
Oh boy

I dont care about gothics mechs or its fluff. I just want the not DOOM demon minis and the construction rules for the bio horrors. I can make my own dystopia in the periphery.

>>96924042
Personally, I think the best way to do it would be for them all to have the creepy albino coloring and glowing eyes, but you can still tell by their features that they're descended from members of a multi-racial, supranational organization. Like you can tell they used to be regular people but they've become something completely alien and horrifying.

>>96923953
The Elemental armor looks like it could be related to that concept art of the Bane/Kraken, doesn't it? Were they done by the same guy?

>>96919664
They mention mech-scale grappling hooks in one of the Grey Death Legion stories, but I dunno if there are rules for it in the actual game.

>>96923856
Next products are bad anyway. The more stuff that's produced for a game, the more people play it, and the worst thing that can happen to a game is it becomes popular. That 100% of the time leads to the game being dumbed down and made worse to make up "more accessible" as the owners get addicted to the revenue stream. The ideal game is one that comes out in a single box set and never gets another official product aside from what the community chooses to make for it.

>>96921931
czech, and it did lose a bunch of such marks, to it's actually pronounced more like marszeek

>>96924386
Exactly, which is why battledroids is the only good release.

Playing mechwarrior 5. Fun game. Wanna play a new game.

Is YAML good and lore accurate? Or good and not lore friendly? Or bad and lore friendly? Or some other third thing?

Round 5 had a lot of crits and round 6 sealed the deal. The Urbanmech went up in a mushroom cloud of AC ammo and the Phoenix Hawk has taken crits to both lower leg actuators, a hip, and a foot, and lost its right arm entirely. The Firestarter might get one extra round as all the abominations finish off the Phoenix Hawk, but there's still two more waves of even bigger monsters to spawn in. I'm calling it here. This Scenario absolutely does not need these mechs to have pre-existing damage. Urbanmechs are always a liability, and that hasn't changed here.

>>96924601
It's fun enough to give it a go, and is about as unloreful as the vanilla mechlab or the cold storage pocket dimension or all the other jank of mw5. It will make the game even easier unless you crank the difficulty

>>96924574
Erroneous, Dougram and Macross are the only good releases

>>96924753
>And because Gnats are VTOLs, they can fly around at 2 or 3 levels high so the 24 potential points of melee damage, in 1 point clusters, is rolled on the Punch Table. It is devastating.
holy shit

>>96924837
And they will always have a +4 tmm because they're vtol with no facings. They can fly wide to always move 5 or 6 hexes, then +1 for flight and +1 for size.

>>96914124
A continous wave laser damages by heating and melting, a pulse laser damages by putting more energy in a shorter time to ablate a spot and then follow up with more pulses to "drill" into a target... in the real world. Pulse should be higher damage, less accurate since they need to hit the exact spot over time to have the greatest effect.

>>96924601
You can switch on canon mech sizes and damage, which improves it a little. I like to turn up speed by a hair because otherwise it feels way too stiff and hard to react in meaningful ways.
The mech quirks are a bit weird though. They give urbanmechs a completely ridiculous amount of extra health, and they still spawn all the fucking time. They become an absolute menace. You can disable them though.

>>96924753
>I played this scenario multiple times, just to make sure I wasn’t missing anything obvious. In the first game, we rolled for preexisting damage and got a 4, 7 and 11, so 20, 35 and 55 damage as well as half ammo right out of the gate. The game was over before it began. The criticals and 1 point armor locations made any pretense of fighting untenable. The game didn’t even last 3 turns. The next games we ignored the preexisting damage followed by the ammo limitations but even with those restrictions removed we never had a game last longer than 6 turns. The lowest Target Number for any of the ‘Mechs was an 8 To-Hit with the vast majority of the rolls needing an 11 while the swarms rarely had to roll over a 7. The most damage done to the Abomination team was 4 Devils and 2 Gnats killed. Not units, individual creatures. The ‘Mechs didn’t have the damage output to eliminate the swarms but also weren’t mobile enough to keep their distance, especially on a single mapsheet. The swarms able to enter from any edge hex meant there was no place for the ‘Mechs to hide. And when the Gnats were able to get in a melee attack, because it was on the Punch Table, pilots were commonly knocked unconscious or killed outright.
>Scenario 1 felt like it was never properly playtested before this box was released. It seems like someone had a lot of cool ideas that sound great on paper, but the concepts weren’t tested to see how they actually worked out in the wild.
>But if that is the case then the writers committed the worst sin of all. They made it not fun. Not a single person who played this scenario with me, no matter how cool they thought the setting was, how awesome they found the models, how much they enjoyed the bits of fiction they read or even how amazing and terrifying the Abominations are, not a single one said they had fun playing this scenario.
Sad

>>96925150
I found more success having the mechs stand still or walk instead of try to escape the Gnats. The Gnats actually have a better shooting range than a lot of the mech weapons, and they're fast enough to always get into that range. Minimizing AMM at least let the pilots kill a couple of them per swarm, which then imposed to-hit penalties that actually made them miss once or twice.

What mechs pop into your head when you think of third succession war era mercenaries?

>>96925328
thunderbolts and griffins, archers and riflemen

>>96924753
I like the abom tokens.

>>96925328
Locust, 55 trio, Marauder, and Warhammer.

>>96925328
for me it's blackjacks, hunchbacks and warhammers

>>96925328
Nightstar, Atlas II and Bull Shark

>>96925342
>>96925352
>>96925355
Thanks, /btg/ is better than using a RAT

>>96925358
lol I wish I could sneak in a Bull Shark

might have to go with something relatively common for an assault, like a Banshee or Stalker

>>96925376
Shortbus stalker for degradation maxxing.

>>96925376
stalker is the move, or maybe a battlemaster

>>96925376

are banshees common for assault mechs?

>>96925453
They're up there. Stalkers are probably the most common.

>>96925150
Firmly believing that battletech's rules writing crew definitely don't have enough actual games experience with these units if they're going this all out with fighting swarms, fliers and negative to hit stacks on top of additional nerfs in their scenarios.

Battlemechs in the game just can't handle swarms unless you specifically kit them out for it and they decided to make an entire game about fighting swarms without heavily reworking these rule interactions.

>>96925560
I kinda suspect they did a lot of their testing with the bigger abominations. Since this is one-off unbalanced scenario play, quirks are also fair. I imagine the Rifleman blows Gnats out of the air pretty reliably.

The canon universe's SL didn't have enough genetech to weaponize/mutate animals into BA/Protomech level, right?

>>96924071
Are the Wolf Hounds the Kell Hounds or Wolf's Dragoons?

>Waco's Rangers

Kek

>>96925643
No. They might have been able to make dangerous man-eating predators that could stalk and kill an unarmored man, but they had no reason to do that. Especially since there are already a ton of alien animals on that level. The clans decided they liked the idea of making monsters though, so they took that tech and applied it to make super sharks and man-eating horses and whatever else they recklessly released into the wild for fun.

>>96925666
Kell Hounds probably. Herb made it a point to not have the 'goons or any indication that the clans might exist in this universe. Probably because the clanners would be the actual space marine equivalent faction, and that's lame.

>>96925666
>>96925689
If there's no Goons then who is in Wayne Wacos book of grudges

>>96925640
That would explain why the Rifleman made the cut

>>96925892
Maybe he's better dead

>>96925643
The SL could've done so as they had the genetech to manipulate humans as understood by Frobisher and Dandavella, but had no reason too as they were a professional 'moral' army that was fine just using manpower rather than terror weapons like that.
The Clans, however..

>>96925689
There's also the fact that Kerensky only left with like 30% of the SLDF in this universe so things would have turned out very differently. It's entirely possible that the Exodus ended up continuing for a while longer and found a nice world and their descendants are the only ones having a peaceful life in the Gothic universe.

>>96925960
Even in Gothic, the SL actually banned combat abominations completely and only used the tech for specific colonial purposes and very sparingly for highly regulated medical procedures. Even Amaris didn't fuck with them (probably because he didn't have time). Then everyone left in the fight thawed out their old age of war abominations and everything went to shit.

>>96925640
Definitely. With its lasers in dazzle mode, it could alpha strike, would only gain movement heat, and all six of its guns would squish a Gnat. Even if a couple miss, bringing the squad down to only one or two individuals will cripple it.

>>96925689
>Herb made it a point to not have the 'goons or any indication that the clans might exist in this universe.

>'ate warships
>'ate fighters
>'ate clanners (not racist just don't like 'em)
>luv me mechs
>luv me star league
>simple as

>>96912473 (OP)
what is the best mech (at least in mech warrior 5)
>Atlas
>King Crab
>Timberwolf
>Direwolf

I think it is the King Crab

>>96926270
You're wrong

>>96926270
>mech that gets its cockpit shot out by the AI almost as easily as the Nightstar

Lol, lmao even

Body body want to feel my body, want to feel my body,
Baby such a thrill my body
Such a thrill my body yeah hey hey

Every man wants to be a macho, macho man
Just have the kind of body always in demand

Body body want to feel my body, want to feel my body,
Baby such a thrill my body
Such a thrill my body yeah hey hey

Every man wants to be a macho, macho man
Just have the kind of body always in demand

>>96916922
CT ammo is the future

>>96923962
keep moving those goalposts you robotic faggot.

ah yes. the king crab. for when you want apartment living on a 'mech budget.

It’s really sad how NPC casuals are bandwagoning anti-Gothic sentiment. This is the latest round of stuff like Steiner Scout Lances and Tex Talks.

>>96927004
>i'm not the npc, you are!

fucking really? you are going to go with 'i know you are so what am I?'

what the fuck are you, 6?

>>96927069
my brother in Blake, if I am 6 then you are 5

>>96927004
>nooooo like the 40k ripoff
No, fuck you. We need more battlearmor, vehicle, and VTOL packs you pricks, not fucking grimslop.

>>96924601
Its good for what it accomplishes but it ends up fucking up gameplay a fair bit and its nowhere near lore friendly. The worst part of it is the insufferable faggots that treat it as a must have mod and want it integrated fully into the base game which even the creator said is dumbass idea.

>>96926270
Stalker

>>96927288
no one is going to buy any of that, realistically

When it comes to mech design and what weapons you can put into a BattleMech, does the amount of heat sink depend on how manyh energy weapons you have? Take the standard Hunchback-4G, it has 13 heat sinks because of its two medium lasers and one small laser. Take out one medium laser and relocate the other medium laser to say, the chest, how many heat sinks would this hypothetical Hunchback variant have?

>>96927389
Anon what kind of question is this
You want to start down the path of customization munchkinings and haven't learned what a heat sink is

>>96927399
is it REALLY 'customisation' and munchkining if the hbk4g's medium lasers are in its ct instead?

>>96927389
>>96927408
Please read up the construction rules before posting further. It answers all the questions you seek.

>>96927428
Construction rules nothing, that wasn't a mistake they would have made if they knew the total warfare rules, or had played any of the video games that came out in the last ten years.

>>96927399
>>96927408

Then regardless of what you do with any of the energy weapons on a Hunchback, would 13 still needed? To rephrase my question about how many heat sinks you need for a mech depending on its weapons, how many heat sinks would a Phoenix Hawk-1 still need if you get rid of one of its medium lasers or its large laser?

>>96927448
The PXH-1 only has the base ten heatsinks

>>96927448
The only mandatory requirement is you need a minimum of 10 heatsinks regardless of if they all fit in the engine, even then that's only in regards to fusion engine types, so an ICE run mech doesn't technically force you to use any heatsinks at all. It's entirely up to you on how many extra heatsinks you need after that.
You could run a hot energy build with only the ten required heatsinks for example, it'd be dumb but you can do it.

>>96922307
A bad attempt to capitalize on Games Workshop's flagship because CGL is retarded. Literally a waste of resources no one asked for

>>96926270
For me its
Commando
Enforcer
The double SRM hunchback
Warhammer

>>96927664
Correct, but you don't have to say it like that. At least, you don't have to say it like that without including a legally credible and actionable threat against the lives of CGL employees.

>>96927789
pissoff TCO

>>96927004
Tex haters not sending their best.

>>96927853
I hate tex and Gothic. Ok, maybe not hate. I just wish both didn't exist whenever I get reminded of their existence.

new thread: >>96927929

>>96927929

>>96927929

>>96926270
I'm partial to the victor
2x AC/5-BF
2x PPC-X
2x SRM4
MASC + Supercharger

>>96925643
>The canon universe's SL didn't have enough genetech to weaponize/mutate animals into BA/Protomech level, right?
>>96925960
>>96926041
And Gothic discovered what was basically Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Ooze that could not only stich stuff together on a genetic level, but also allow the resulting chimera to breed and pass on those traits.