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Thread question:
What are you cooking up modelwise?

>>96970957
Left is more sinister.

Lefthanded or right handed Mortarion, teegee? Which one shall I assemble?

What Skarbrand up to in 40k? Is he even around

>>96970989
The one pointing the pistol, I just like it more.

>>96970965 (OP)
>TQ
Reposting because I can only work on my models during the weekend. I'm slowly working through the SG

>>96970990
Last mention of him was in 8th edition.
He's gone

>>96971003
The winged backpack is very swooping hawk coded

>>96970990
Idk, but I'm glad World Eaters can take daemon princes now.

>>96970965 (OP)
>TQ
Repostan

>>96971018
Swooping hawks are dope. Thanks anon.

>>96970965 (OP)
Procrastinating, mostly

>>96970965 (OP)
What are you working on BLanon now that your master of executions is done?

>>96971033
>leviathan dread
Based. Probably my favorite dreadnought until the saturnine dread got revealed.

>>96971047
I'm not BLanon, i just like the spinny

>>96971003
>>96971033
>>96971038
>>96971047
How long does it take you guys to finish your average squad of guys?

>>96970965 (OP)
>TQ
I'm procrastinating instead of thinking of how to paint these.
The apothecary is easy at least

>>96971033
You're highlighting is getting superb King.

>>96971071
If I am high on Caffeine I can do a 5 man squad in a day

>>96971079
Don't reply to me decalmutant

>>96971075
Ah fuck, my image

>>96971084
Sallyanon is never nasty to me, fuck off freako

>>96971071
A couple weeks. Depends on if I get sucked into Vidya and/or need to do stuff on the weekend. I often only work on them for an hour-15 minutes.

>>96971079
Once again, please don't reply to my posts, decalmutant. I'd really appreciate it. Thank you.

>>96970990
He got his ass kicked by Guilliman and hasn't returned since.

>>96971091
That’s because he ignores you like all the other model posters.

Didn’t he also once respond, and I quote, “your approval fills me with confusion and shame)

>>96970965 (OP)
>TQ
Finished the jetbikes, now on to the riders, which will take more time despite being smaller.

>>96971105
>>96971096
You're so fucking nasty and ugly dude

>>96971150
There you go again, insulting model posters again like you've done before.

>>96971177
Its not him you moron, its one of the Schizos pretending to be.

Is there anything in the Imperium Nihilus that's even that important?

>>96971197
you asked that last thread, nobody gives a shit still

>>96971197
Baal, a bunch of forgeworlds, enough infrastructure for the forces of chaos to stop relying on scavenged equipment.

>>96971201
So? Let him ask again you dirty little scumbo.

>>96971205
>Baal
Aside from it being a recruiting planet for a single space marine chapter it's literally just a death world that doesn't produce anything of value.

>>96971212
nobody asked for your input you oxygen wasting, dumb motherfucker

>"Should we make a new mini for Tyberos next? Or maybe Pedro Kantor? Lias Issodon? Gabriel Seth?"
>"Nah, hear me out..."

>>96970989
Right one 100%. First one makes no sense, a greator daemon descending and aiming with his weeny pistol isn't nearly as imposing as him simply holding his weapons in a relaxed manner.

>>96971133
Nice bases

>>96971071
Years

>>96971226
>Master of Das Rite

>>96971219
I'm defending the rest of the board from your schizo antics. You're very easy to spot.

Why the fuck are Tyranid Warriors so expensive?

>>96971244
Lmao you should be last one to say that. The pot calling the kettle black and so on

>Bong game
>Best players are from Spain

>>96971226
I don't like this model because he doesn't look like a captain.
He just looks like a lieutenant.

Did they give any kind of time table for when the 500 worlds stuff is supposed to release? Is it coming some time in December or not until January like AoO was?

>have zero motivation to improve my painting skills
>keep looking for easy to do techniques and continuously fall for the slop meme

Think I might be very depressed

>>96971234
>Master of Das Rite
>Rob young

>>96971278
>Spain dominates golden daemon
>Spain dominates tourneys
Somebody stop them

>>96971278
Bongs are near a tipping point with their Gov/Immigration. They got bigger fish to fry...

>>96971278
>best players
>best painters
Spaniards must be stopped

>>96971297
The Spanish get away with everything I swear

>>96971244
The irony of you playing thread police obviously went right over your head but I guess that's to be expected of a schizophrenic autist. Unironically kill yourself

>finally find someone selling a heap of chesp gsc on marketplace
>tfw they didnt update the ad and tell me that they have sold everything apart from a sanctus

The suffering continues

>>96971317
Only a complete lunatic speaks the way you do every day.

>>96971282
It seems to be an end of edition narrative, so January might be a safe bet

>>96971360
Chairon is invited to the picnic

>>96970990
Last major thing he was involved with was that he and Kairos teamed up to take out Guilliman just after he had resurrected. They trap him in a maze, but Guilliman gets bailed out by the Harlequins. Then Guilliman beats Skarbrand in a duel and escapes the maze. I think a black templar marshal sacrificed himself or something to help beat him.

Before that, he and Biel-Tan's Avatar of Khaine had a mutual kill when Biel-Tan got shattered in the Ynnead summoning plot

>>96971197
Baal, Mordian and Valhalla apparently

>>96971226
Why is the Master of Rites a separate position from the head Chaplain, the Master of Sanctity, isn't it redundant

>>96971226
tyberos is a meme and secondaries would throw a fit when he got revealed and wasn't primarch-sized
pedro is coming
nobody gives a fuck about the raptors or their literal who CM
seth is dead and cucked forever

>TQ
Clownfish squig for my kill rig

>>96971398
No because the Chaplains do something different than the Master of Rites.

>>96971377
With how he ended up, he IS the picnic

>>96971431
Oh, right....

>>96971421
That's a cute idea, anon
You doing any other fish for the orks?

>>96971421
Im really not looking forward to assembling and painting my kill rig, I think the squig they gave us looks shithouse and would rather swap it for something else, maybe a mechanical squig if it exists

>>96971421
My squig's bigger bro, that

>>96971421
He's more of a Bruce than a Nemo

>>96971410
Still all better choices for a new mini than that thing

>>96970965 (OP)
>What are you cooking up modelwise?
I'm going to make some change on pic rel, add a lot more detail and colors, and switch the gun for the big las canon

>>96971389
>Mordia, Valhalla
Subpar Guard regiments

>Baal
Literally just take the Space Marine chapter...and push them somewhere else. Have them recruit from a world on the other side.

why did they do it?

>>96971474
Dayyyyum Nice tanks Wolfbro, love your stuff.

>>96971497
Shes got an in with game devs as she was best buddies with the guy who voiced the marine in the first one.
She's been known to sleep around for parts but that just comes with being a games journalist

>>96971438
My squighog boys are poison dart frogs

>>96971443
I did make a mekrig earlier this year

>>96971516
Nice

>>96971531
Jungle orks, very cool

>>96971503
>She's been known to sleep around for parts
source?

>>96971540
Check out the farms

>>96971329
That sucks anon. I've got a lot of extra GSC stuff I'm not using. (I picked it up for a 40krpg I was running and have since finished). I never built the goliath truck. I'd be happy to send it to an anon.
You can email the 40kg secret santa email - that's me. I'll see it.

>>96971500
Please don't reply to me

>>96971556
Wolfanon is a pure soul, he wouldn't say this. So again your schizo ass is playing pretend, get a life.

What are the odds GW retcons Chairon's death after the backlash and has him interred in a Dreadnought instead?

>>96971545
?? Huh

Looks like he stopped taking his meds.

>>96971578
What backlash? No one really cares that much.

>>96971578
People care that Chairon died?

Are bolter chaos marines going to be good in 11th
I’m tired of my autistic bolters being useless

>>96971278
We arr number wuan!

>>96971578
There is no backlash

>>96971578
He's gonna come back as a csm

>>96971614
It would be cool if he came back as a red Corsair in a late edition 500 worlds release, helping Huron shit it up in ultramar

>>96971614
That's what Leandros will be. It's pretty obvious as to what his character is most likely leading into.
It's the classic "I know for a fact that Titus is actually evil and a heretic" only for Leandros to fall to corruption himself in his obsession to try prove Titus wrong out of personal vendetta.

They should make a new version of these guys

>>96971578
Chairon IS the bladeguard in the command squad, but the sculptor fucked up by not giving him a bionic arm so they had to say it was Metaurus

>>96971636
Didn't they already make a new version of the middle guy?

>>96970990
He's seething in his cuckshed

>>96971578
what backlash?

>>96971614
>>96971623
Makes no sense, chairon's one character trait is hates chaos more than usual

>>96971578
I've only seen positive commentary regarding Chaigrons death

>>96970965 (OP)
>tq
Waiting on some bits because my 'tism can't handle the weapon drones on the Devilfish being different than the weapon drones on the Hammerhead/Skyray.

>>96971648
They could've just said that he got better and they gave him a new non-cybernetic arm.

>>96970965 (OP)
>>96971047
>TQ
Big plans.

>>96971681
ooooo, what army?

>>96971669
Very fucking real

>>96971497
Someone making decisions thinks they have a chance to fuck her. I will be astounded if she is passable. I've only seen her cameo in Cyberpunk 2077 where she's just herself, so good fucking luck there.

>TQ
I intended to start painting my angry chicken yesterday but I was exhausted from work and ended up just catching up on Grand Sumo for a couple of hours and calling it a night.

>>96971497
I have utter contempt for people who leave my country and develop fucked up accents, pisses me off

>>96971702
I saw her in person at a con a few years ago
her ass is freakishly huge

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96971709
the british accent is newer than the american and australian and canadian accents

Will the Tau be a threat by the 51st millennium?

>>96971726
No

>>96970965 (OP)
>TQ
Just finished assembling my intercessors. Gonna prime em tonight and hopefully get a base coat down tomorrow

>>96971712
Well, now we know how she gets all those auditions and roles.

>>96971726
Most likely never, they are far to weak and their lives are far too short.

>>96970965 (OP)
currently painting up my old calgar model (no not paypigging for the new one) thinking of running him in place of my airship idk.....

>>96971741
Calgar is dope in game, very strong nigguh

From the summary of Ashes of the Imperium
>Dorn tells Archamus that the he does not know what Emperor said to him before he did put him on the throne but it could have been "do it" or "don't do it". When he does put the Emperor on the throne he looks at Dorn with sheer horror in his eye. Dorn then orders Archamus to help with the rebuilding efforts and to find a way to sway The Lion and Leman to their side.

Did Dorn fuck over the Emperor? Why was the Emperor's face full of horror?

>>96971751
Go back to your discord

>>96971759
Can you go annoy someone else?

>>96971579
kiwifarms

>>96971726
after today they will NEVER be a fucking threat

Why does the Imperium have such a tendency to overstate how bad things are?

>>96971785
Much like our own Government, keeping the plebs in fear keeps them dependent on a savior.

>>96971497
At least she cant claim to be a video game dev/writer despite just being credited as "accessibility consultant", whatever that is.
I'm surprised people forgot that little story, raised quite a stink, especially when she started lashing out on twitter when people called her out on it.

>>96971785
Because they are? Like, it’s probably fine on most interior worlds, but on the frontiers shit is turbo fucked. You just don’t hear about the nice places.

>>96971809
Doubt it, the Imperium is millions of years away from being conquered and by that time we will have brought back prior knowledge and AI and dominate the Universe again.

>>96971821
Not really. The way to Terra is open. If Terra falls, the galaxy falls.

>>96971809
The regions west and east of Terra are being ravaged by the murder curse. Leviathan is about to reach Segmentum Solar and Haarken Worldclaimer is one Sanctus Wall away from rushing into Segmentum Solar.

>>96971821
More like millenia at most.

>>96971833
Cawl has made more scientific advancements in the dozen years he's been back than every other faction combined. The Mechanicus has the Necrons and the Tau shitting their pants with how advanced they are.

>>96971757
Did the Horus Heresy series really reveal a new, impactful to the 40th millenium, twist that wasnt there before the series?
No, I'm not talking about useless, ultimately inconsequential shit like "Janus Cassandrian, 3rd Captain of the Imperial Fists is ACTUALLY Cassandor Barbaros, the first Capter Master of the Fisting Fisters!"
I'm talking about new, 40k changing twists. We knew who the traitor primarchs were, the loyalists, who lived, who died. Nobody flipped sides, everything was self contained. We may get shit like "maybe this is why the Tyranids are coming" (which in itself is a stupid reason). But ultmately I dont think the Horus Heresy series changed the backstory a lot. We still dont know who Cypher is. We still dont know if Alpharius/Omegon are really traitors. We're not even sure if its really a shard of Magnus that leads the Grey Knights.
Its all fluff for fluff.

So how would this new Scouring series be any different?

>>96971846
Idk about the Crons but the Tau are a nonissue

>>96971846
No. They are not.
The only thing that shocked and then pissed off the Necrons was the mass unleashing of DAoT weapons that Cawl's Admech armies brought with them without his awareness and permission.

>>96971846
No they don’t. All it’s done is make them escalate and brings out more super weapons. It also took most of the 10k years the imperium has been around for Cawl to make those upgrades. Most of the shit they used in the Pariah Nexus were things they’d found buried over the millenia.

>>96971857
>was the mass unleashing of DAoT weapons
Which they will be pumping out and using in untold numbers from now on.

>>96971853
Yes.
The Emperor made a deal with Chaos.
Abaddon is the true chosen of the gods, not Horus.
The Tyranids were attracted by the explosion on Sotha
The Star Child storyline was revived.
etc.

>>96971868
That’s not how that works. That’s not how any of this works!

>>96971712
She's a BPD solid seven that figured out nerds will treat her like Aphrodite. Shit, I remember her showing up on Funhaus just to be a comedic black hole.

>>96971873
>The Emperor made a deal with Chaos.
The deal to make the primarchs or something new?

>>96970965 (OP)
>TQ
Will start adding some more models to my Night Lords. Have a lord with Jump pack, 1 sorcerer and a couple of more marines to go

>>96971868
They are not. They are rare, and some of them exploded or created epically devastating interaction with Necron super weapons like for example when a DAoT weapon combined with tiny shards of the Endless Swarm C'tan.

>>96971886
Shit wrong pic

>>96971882
For power and also knowledge to create the Primarchs.

I really like these. Third party sculpts often go too far in one direction or another, and this is pretty much similar to GW.

>>96971853
>So how would this new Scouring series be any different?
It has female custodes and writers implicitly begging henry cavill to pick up the story they're writing

Im boxposting, Im boxposting!!
Gw sent me a bunch of free shit and it finally arrived today.

>>96971923
it was free because it's worthless

>>96971702
I mean i wouldn't pass the chance to fuck her either

>>96971887
>They are rare
They are absolutely not. DAoT are so common that the Mechanicus can and will use them no primitive weak minor xenos that nobody's ever heard of before.

>>96971923
>free
Why? Cashing in your snitching vouchers?

>>96971606
kino

>>96971873
We still dont know why the Emperor fucked Angron over besides "Crusade gotta go fast, babeee"
The Cabal subplot went nowhere.
We still dont know what happened to the primarch's splitting up. Yes, Erdra was involved, but why? How? Just as she got interesting, she got killed off so she wont influence 40k.
It basically answered a lot of questions that itself raised, but didnt really answer any mysteries that was there beforehand.

>>96971936
Name an example.

>>96971954
The DAoT superweapon they used to set the nebulae on fire at the end of the Agrellan Campaign.

>>96971923
Funny how many Drukhari boxes I've seen posted here compared to how few painted Drukhari models I've seen posted here.

>>96971578
Nobody cares except for people who only play SM2 and dont own minis. Characters get offed all the time even ones with models and none of those guys had models to begin with so is it really suprising?

>>96971634
I really don't see leandros doing that because hes staunchly against chaos. The whole thing about him reporting titus to the inquisition was because titus used a chaos artifact to fight chaos. Honestly I think that Leandros ending up as an Inquisition Acolyte would make more sense.

>>96971965
The High Lords knew about the Tau for centuries. They ordered the Damocles Crusade.
Execution Forces cannot be sent out without the full agreement of all High Lords. Which means all the High Lords of Terra marked Aun'Va, Farsight, and Shadowsun for death.
The Retribution Task Force sent to Agrellan was the direct wrath of Terra for the defeat of the Raven Guards (A first Founding Chapter) on Prefectia.

Also Commander Dante considers the rise of the T'au as a notable thing worth mentioning.

>‘I have lived a long time. I have seen things I thought never to see. Every century I survive presents a new horror to test our Imperium. I have seen the Necrons awaken. I have witnessed the Tau emerge. I was there when the hive fleets first came out of the intergalactic void to prey upon the worlds of our species. I have fought Ghazgkhull, the great beast of the Orks, upon the thrice-damned world of Armageddon. I have seen Chapters fall. I have seen worlds die. I have seen the flower of the Imperium’s martial might laid low by the perfidy of traitors. I have seen the ambition of vain men deliver the innocent into the obscene hungers of the endless dark.’

>>96971952
>We still dont know why the Emperor fucked Angron over besides "Crusade gotta go fast, babeee"
GW probably think it'd be funny to fuck Angron over back then. Well not so funny now that they have to think of something to justify that shit
>The Cabal subplot went nowhere.
They were meant to manipulate Alpharius into destroy mankind = destroy chaos. But then again, it'd be dumb for a primarch to listen to a bunch of xenosfucks anyway.
>We still dont know what happened to the primarch's splitting up. Yes, Erdra was involved, but why? How? Just as she got interesting, she got killed off so she wont influence 40k.
We kind a did. She didn't want Big E to turn them into a bunch murderous machines for his ambition so she fucked him over. That's it, no chaos fuckery or deep machination at work here.

>>96972022
Well that's dumb. If anything the Q'Orl are way bigger a threat as far as minor xenos go than the Tau.

>>96972023
I thought the whole point was that if he helped Angron it would mean other planetary governers would turn against him because it would show that he could just do whatever and fuckover whoever and that the whole do as you wish but pay the tithe agreement was just mere words.

>>96971827
Go back to r*ddit /u/shaskais

>>96971071
From my experience, it takes about 2 hours per guy on my admech, but I can see less detailed models taking less than that. I think it took me about 10 hours to do 10 hormagaunts, for example.

>>96971827
>The way to Terra is open. If Terra falls, the galaxy falls.
3-day special operation, huh?

>>96971930
>>96971940
Free because some of the sprues in my battleforce (and the harlequin combat patrol) were damaged/bent/straight up broken
So they sent me replacements

>>96971987
I posted models. And people post drukhari all the time here.

>>96971952
>Yes, Erdra was involved, but why?
Abnett constructing mythological metatextuality by framing the Horus Heresy as a Titanomachy, where the Emperor is cast as Cronus, Erda as Rhea, and Horus as Zeus. Combined with persistent invocation of motifs of tarot and alchemy. Basically serving to elevate the narrative from one of retards fighting retards to one of mythological figures clashing.

>>96972034
Let's just say Angron is a loser and be done with it.

It makes me angry that we are almost at 11 editions of this game and still chainswords suck ass. Together with the bolt gun they are the symbols of 40k and on the tabletop they hot like wet farts

>>96972072
Yea he was created to be a big scary brute and to be beaten by everyone he fights. He's pathetic as a character.

>>96972067
An Ark of Omen warped at the Sol Systems border. How hard is it to Warp jump to Terra now? Khorne also flooded Terra with daemons and nearly took it.

>>96972072
it is still a really shitty reason and the support of one of his godlike sons is 100% more useful than a few shitty worlds so yeah

>>96972033
I recall I read somewhere that the T'au are the most powerful of the minor Xenos factions. I think it's from one of the main rulebooks.

>>96972072
>>96972078
Quiet down furfag

>>96972076
why do you expect them to be overpowered because they're common?

>>96972093
Rent free

>>96972099
>overpowered
how about viable at all since they're infinitely cooler than boring ass power swords

>>96971940
>snitching vouchers
How do I get in on this

>>96972090
Tau aren't a minor Xenos, they've proven that if left unchecked they'll bloat into an insane force to be reckoned with so thats why they are considered a major threat.

Minor xenos generally refers more to the dozens of myriad species that show up in 1 or 2 stories and thats it.

>>96972090
Isn't that like being the strongest nation in Africa? It's not exactly a huge accomplishment.

>>96972041
Go fuck yourself you can't fucking stop me.

>>96971301
>>96971297
God would have mercy on you and give you all the gibs if you had to be a Br*t*sh tourist location.

Does anyone here collect/like the Ultramarines?

why do genestealers always feel forced when they are brought up as a threat

>>96972115
Cool pfp fag

>>96972111
More like Japan. Despite being tiny, it did beat up on much larger countries like Russia and then the US, much like the Tau are doing. Then they got beaten by the immense resources of the US.

>>96972122
Because they're the ultimate jobber faction and the only ones in the setting whose win condition is also their loss condition

>>96972108
>Tau aren't a minor Xenos
They absolutely are. They have like...what, 300 worlds at most?

The Imperium has a million. The Necrons have millions. Orks probably have millions. The Tyranids ate billions. Chaos probably has millions now.

Nothing that the Tau does will ever get the Imperium to take them seriously. If the Tau took Ultramar, all 500 worlds of it, the Imperium would laugh in their faces because they STILL wouldn't have .1% of the planets that the Imperium does.

I really cannot be arsed spraying my minis anymore. Will paint-on primer suffice or must I rouse myself? (obviously big shit will be sprayed but smaller shit drives me mad).

>>96972135
Taufags are desperate for validation, just ignore them like the street beggar on the corner.

>>96971785
Because it gets that bad when they try to downplay it instead.

>>96972135
>The Necrons have millions
The largest and most powerful Necron dynasty is made up of 80 tomb worlds and 500 conquered alien worlds. The Sautekh dynasty.

Also, the Imperium did take them seriously. You think that the High Lords of Terra would send an Execution Force against anyone?

>1000 point game
>Opponent brings Terminator chaplain attached to a 10 model terminator blob.

>>96972164
that's fine?

>>96971741
Be very careful with that medicine bottle in the back, i have seen more than one person dox themselves by posting them

>>96972034
A primarch should be way more valuable than a few planets

You do realize that if Ultramar falls, the Imperium basically forfeits Ultima Segmentum?

>>96972163
>You think that the High Lords of Terra would send an Execution Force against anyone?
Yes.

There were, what, 100,000 minor xenos encountered throughout and after the Great Crusade? And how many are there now? A few dozen?

The Imperium sends out Extermination Forces as naturally as breathing.

>>96972102
Ironic

>>96972164
>40% of his army is tied up in one unit
Just go around it anon it can only hold one objective

>>96972179
Even if they do it won't change shit in the grand scheme of things. Just like Guilliman and Lion returning, just like Cadia etc etc etc

>>96972163
>The largest and most powerful Necron dynasty is made up of 80 tomb worlds and 500 conquered alien worlds.
Yes but that's a miniscule fraction of the Necrons total strength, they're just still mostly asleep.

>>96972181
Execution Forces are Kill Teams made up of all major Temples of the Imperial Assassins. For an Execution Team to be sent, all High Lords must agree to authorise their deployment and sanction their target.

It's rare and reversed for the most hated and dangerous enemies of the Imperium.

>>96972200
So practically, the Necrons don't control millions of worlds. That's just their theoretical strength that they might or might not reach.

>>96972080
>An Ark of Omen warped at the Sol Systems border.

>>96972192
Charadon got gutted. Ultramar is the only real bastion of Imperial power in the entire Segmentum. If it falls, then it's free dinner for the enemies of the Imperium.

>>96972033
Yes, a full faction is definitely a minor inconvenience to the galaxy less than a literally who race.

>>96972203
They used a Execution Force against the Tau on Taros. Fucking TAROS. A mining planet of like...12 million people. Hell, they even threw a Titan Legion and several space marine chapters at them.

They can't be that rare.

>>96972213
Yeah yeah, I'm sure it will make for some fantastic BL slop "literature". In the meantime status quo of the setting will remain exactly the same

>>96972226
The Q'Orl are right next to Terra. If they ever figure out FTL then Terra will come under attack.

The Tau are way out on the edge of the galaxy. Even if they took Ultramar, they would still be a long, long way off from threatening Terra.

>>96972249
if the eldar are a threat with a couple dozen mobile hive worlds, the Tau are a threat with a couple dozen hive worlds and a couple hundred others.

>>96972256
>if the eldar are a threat with a couple dozen mobile hive worlds
They aren't. The Imperium thinks of the Eldar as a fucking joke. Even Guilliman said that he could crush the Eldar with ease.

Guys Im looking at aethon's sprue and I legit dont think I have it in me to shave off the imperial symbols. I dont trust myself to not ruin the entire chest/knee/shoulder piece.

I dont think Im cut out for kitbashing

>>96972236
No, they didn't. They used only one Eversor. An Inquisitor or a high-ranking Imperial commander can call on a single assassin.
A kill team of four of each major temple (aka Execution Force) needs all High Lords' sanction it.

>>96972076
I think they're okay on sword brethren. 6 attacks with sustained 1. Other options only have 3 attacks and templars don't have oath for rerolls for lethal fishing with power weapons.

>power level/numbers autism again
I'm tired bros

>>96972266
Yeah at the end of the day, the Eldar are just another minor xenos faction who should consider themselves lucky that they even get models.

>>96972266
He didn't. More than one source says that the Imperium finds it hard to fight Craftworlds.

More than one entire sector fleets were destroyed by craftworlds. Biel-Tann alone managed to destroy three sector fleets and 10 marine chapters.
>>96972249
Elements of the Fourth Sphere ended up near Baal, in Nachmund, and right inside the galactic core.

>>96972274
Do you have an opinion on the subject?

>>96972277
>"I know your kind. Choose your words carefully. Speak truth, if you can. Know that although the LadyYvraine and Farseer Ulthran were instrumental in bringing me back, I will not be manipulated by any of you. Xhyle is correct. The wrath of humanity is roused like at no other time. We could crush your species root and branch if it pleased us."
"We could crush your species root and branch if it pleased us."

>>96972164
Yes, I do this.
Yes, I play Dark Angels.

So do people still think Leman Russ is coming or is the dream dead

>>96972296
Oh he's comin baby!

>>96972286
I was wrong, but Roboute is clearly bluffing here. The Imperium can barely muster the forces necessary to wipe out the T'au let alone the more powerful Asuryani.

>>96972286
Robert can't even control 500 worlds, so I don't know if you can trust what he says.

>>96972276
Lucky to even get models is a bit of a stretch for the third biggest model range in the game.

>>96972286
>"We could crush your species root and branch if it pleased us."
So it does not please the Imperium to crush the Eldar species?

>>96971949
Iron within anon

>>96972164
Based af. My first game i played, I had a borrowed 1000pt army with 10 termies and they carried everyone else on their fucking backs

>>96972296
That one anon's losing his cum over it. I look forward to him never coming out

>>96972344
I feel like every newbie makes this mistake when they first start out. I have played three teaching games against new players that brought a Land Raider and Terminators to a 1,000 point game. Even trying to throw those games it's real hard.

>>96972351
that one redditor*, calling him anon is an insult to the rest of us

>>96972366
OH fuck off

Found it.
The 4th ed corebook says that the Tau are the most dynamic and vital of the alien races that wage war against the Imperium.

Also found this.
>>Some of the xenos discovered are peaceful, ensuring they are easily subjugated or, if troops are readily available and the situation dictates, mercilessly exterminated. So it has always been, and of these rninor or inconsequential races, little more need be mentioned. There are other aliens throughout the galaxy, however, whose existences have proven much more problematic for the Imperium.
The fucking Imperium exterminates or enslaves peaceful Xenos races!
Justify this.

>>96972319
He does say that a moment later that the only reason the Eldar are alive is because the Imperium wills it.

Hell, Guilliman already blew up Biel-Tan, there's nothing stopping him from going after the rest if he wanted to.

>>96972302
If he does I'll build a space wolves army. Otherwise, meh

>>96972380
Biel-Tann was blown up before Gulliman even returned, wasn't it? I thought it was Eldrad using its Infinity circuit to call Ynnead or something that blew it up

>>96972360
With a land raider is excessive lol

I do see your point. I would definitely have struggled in a normal 1v1 game, it was 2v2 so the board control wasn't much of a problem

>>96972380
>Hell, Guilliman already blew up Biel-Tan, there's nothing stopping him from going after the rest if he wanted to.
After Ball-Tan blew its Eldar are noted to have become stronger militarily since they put all their remaining resources into war, and later they were joined by hosts of Exodite warriors.

>>96972383
They're not that strong right now, the boasts and what not are shit but they look badass.

>>96972391
Yes before. Daemons tainted it and Yvraine blew it up to create Yncarne

>>96972379
How many Xenos races has the Imperium actually enslaved and why isn't that Heresy?

>>96972400
Yeah but 1) this game is based on rule of cool and 2) they might be significantly stronger if they had a primarch

Anyone ever paint their army brown? Ive not seen many brown armies, I was thinking about doing it for my eldar

>>96971757
>Did Dorn fuck over the Emperor?
Probably not, the Empero was already dying from the Horus fight and most likely so badly he wouldn't even respawn.
>Why was the Emperor's face full of horror?
Because he knew that sitting down on that chair meant enduring 10000 years of unending supertorture. He already knew it was a possibility before but it doesn't mean he was truly prepared for what it meant.

>>96972411
Brown Elves? Classic...

>>96972391
>>96972396
I'm not referring to that incident, but rather the Ultramarines invasion of Biel-tan that saw its people forced to leave the craftworld entirely.

>>96972411
Brown is a hard color to make interesting because it needs accents, which Marines/Guard etc... Do not have a lot of
Eldar, with all their materials like cloth and gems could probably pull it off

>>96972411
>I want to paint an army brown
>I'm going to choose one of the most colorful factions in the game

I mean they're your models anon but...

>>96972429
>seething /v/ermin
Everyone ignore the retard. Im talking about their armor

>>96972434
And what book did that one happen in?

it's kinda funny how the most important eldar craftworld and the most important deldar city both got destroyed by yvraine

>>96972454
That is funny, I agree

>>96972451
It happens in Garden of Ghosts

Had a 1000pts game vs. Votann today, my friend is just putting together his army so lots of unpainted stuff. I also tried Biosanctic Broodsurge for the first time, feels quite refreshing since I've started about a year ago and haven't played anything but Host of Ascension.
Patriarch with the +1 AP & +1dmg just shreds stuff.

>>96972485
>priming white

>>96972497
>priming black

>>96972379
>The fucking Imperium exterminates or enslaves peaceful Xenos races!
>Justify this
Womp womp, should've been made in gods image.

>>96972506
I dono't think the Imperium ever refers to the God-Emperor as just 'God'. They always tack on that '-emperor' part.

>>96972281
Nta but my opinion is that it's retarded to get worked up about theoretical fights because all it takes for them to make the underdog win is gw writing in that they've found some super scifi macguffin that turned the tides of battle, or some other guys showed up and starting to beat up the favorite to win. We've had extinction level events for individual planets that gw has handwaved away. They had baal get slammed by a tyranid hivefleet and literally had daemons appear out of thin air in order to keep the bangels from being wiped out completely

>>96972411
Seen a lot of tan armies. But brown is tough to make exciting.

>>96972478
That was not Biel-Tan.

>new Ultramarine detachment lets you double or even triple up on advance and charge or advance and shoot for the three turns if you have Calgar
Seems pretty good for Terminators, or any foot slogging lists with little in the way of transports.

>>96972506
Humans also were not made in the God Emperor's image

>>96972286
This is also the guy who thought he could take the Silent King and would have died if the Eldar who told him not try hadn't created a contingency plan to save him.

>>96972552
>>96972478
The chronological time period of that episode is also questionable.

>>96972520
>>96972556

>>96970989
pistol shooter pose is more dynamic and has a better flow to it, but the other pose feels more biblical/angelic and fits the divinity vibe more

So, former deathwatch marines are allowed to keep some of their regalia, like pauldrons right? Anyone here experimented with throwing some deathwatch bling on their first company?

>>96972497
Not my thing as well but he uses contrast paints so it is what it is.

>>96972523
Thats sick as frick, I love arguing power levels.

>>96972634
that's because you're a fucking retard

>>96972558
I mean tbf Guilliman pretty effectively kick the Silent King's shit in, damaged his Pariah Nexus project pretty badly, and got out without a scratch. If that's not a showing of how pathetic xenos are then I don't know what is.

>>96972639
Yea ok Pal and you're Albert Niggerstein, fuck off.

>>96970989
Scythes in both hands. Think outside the box.

Why are there so many gay cunts in these threads now?

Tbh I always kinda liked the xenos over the Imperium cause while the Imperium is fighting for dominance, the xenos are just out here fighting for mere survival (except for the Orks, who are fighting for the fight)

>>96972647
He was literally about to get killed.

>>96972654
What happened to you saying you'd never say a racist thing here mutant?

>>96972658
>the xenos are just out here fighting for mere survival
Well they should stop that.

>>96972686
No, I don't think they will.

>>96972669
I was using it as a substitute for retard while conversing with another White. It’s not the same thing.

>>96971226
Makes sense to me, if there's one thing Ultramarines are sorely lacking it's HQ options.

>>96972719
>I'm gay and retarded
Yeah yeah, we already knew that.

What would you consider a must include at 2000pt for space marines? Not counting chapter specific stuff

>>96972744
Judiciar, bladeguard, single intercessor squad, 3 Ballistus dreadnoughts.

>>96972744
Have you considered 2000pts of dreadnoughts

>>96972751
>>96972752
These do sound kind based

>>96972744
5 infiltrators. 5 intercessors, at least one squad of jump pack intercessors. depends a lot on your detachment, some don't need sticky objectives on a unit.

Do you think it is possible for the game to ever be balanced at 500 points? What are the glaringly obvious problems for the format?

>>96972770
Rogal Dorn hehe

>>96972744
3 Eliminators with Las Fusil and a Librarian in phobos to annoy the piss outta your opponent.

>>96972770
Ban certain units and it works fine

>>96972770
Can it? Sure, but without something akin to ye olde Force Organization Chart, not on its own. You would need an agreement not to just bring 500pts worth of tank or a monster/character blender that can just lmao the other side by itself.

Gravis armor units should have less Toughness

>>96972770
Anything can be balanced if you homebrew it. The question is does anyone really want to math out every unit in the game to rebalance it for 500pts? Probably not

>>96972770
army rules are imbalanced at lower levels.
i.e. Oath of Moment is terrible at 3k points and the most busted shit imaginable at 500 points

Test

>>96972846
leandros is turning traitor at the end of 500 worlds

>>96972846
ftfy
HEHE ROCK DRILL

>>96972854
Cope

>>96972846
why would leandros be happy about it? he's known them for a long ass time, he's cared for their well being all along

>>96972658
I’d argue that the Imperium is at a point where fighting for dominance and fighting for survival are synonymous. They can’t really afford otherwise.

>>96972867
Nope!

Thanks again anon from last thread, did an ever so slightly careful glaze of flesh tearers red and finalized with UV resin in a light layer for gloss cause gloss ended up looking nicer than satin
Small start on the armor, gonna see how that will go as I continue glazing itprobably rough cause I never actually properly painted SM armor

>>96972870
I wouldn't say that necessarily. The Imperium has a bunch of options for survival that don't necessarily require being the dominant force, and their survival itself isn't really threatened in the setting.

Bought my first Battleforce and the box was thinner than I thought it’d be

>>96972770
Boarding Actions dues it great. Check their rules. Infantry only and lots of terrain on a small board is key

>>96972890
Stellar lil feller

>>96972770
boarding actions is probably the best format of current 40k
it's all my group plays now

>>96972890
Very tasty. Purples are a frustrating pigment to work with

I start every list with two units of terminators and two units of tactical squads like the GOD EMPEROR intended.

>>96972904
>boarding actions
Currently having some terrain for it printed.
>>96972937
Post photos, tips.

>>96972945
I don't believe you because I haven't seen anyone post two units worth of terminators here before

>>96972955
Honestly this sounds wrong. Surely SOMEONE in here has posted 2+ units of Terminators.

>>96972955
I'm in the process of replacing my old terminators with the new ones so wait a month.

>>96972962
I don't think so. Not from any of the regulars at least

>>96972770
No toughness value over 7
No duplicate units except battleline
1 character
No special characters
My guys win your guys lose
Reduce AP values by 1
1/2 normal command points (?)

>>96971234
Kek

>>96972925
Cheers anon
>>96972938
Thanks anon, but yeah it absolutely is so it will probably crush my balls, which is fitting since its a practice for EC minis

>>96971254
Because GW knows you’ll buy them.

>>96972970
I mean I could, but I am not going upstairs because I am lazy.

>>96972955
O&Tfag posted his unpainted army once and it had like 25 terminators in it lmao

>>96970989
Two pistols. Give him the Jon Woo pose too.

>>96972787
Even though las fusils are mathmatically better I kind of prefer the threat of flat d3 precision from the bolt rifles. 2 snipers plus 2 instigator carbines from the sergeant plus a captain. move-shoot-move and a free strat each round. eliminators don't have enough shots to be a massive threat to units.

>>96972971
Fox only, final destination.

>>96972962
Future me can post 10+5 terminators when the 10 arrive. They're the older set but I found 10 for sale online for $40, scooped those little rascals right up for my 2009 army.

>>96971500
Disgusting, please stop posting this.

test

>>96972955
I currently have 20 terminators, 10 normal and 10 assault. They are all still gray though I just got the new box. I know they are not really meta right now but I needed a durable melee threat in the midboard and the other unit that does that is bladeguard and I hate bladeguard with a passion.

>>96973016
Don't go back 6 hours trying to stir up drama u little turd. Btw you have no models.

>>96972993
True true, I got both just in case.

>>96972770
spearhead for aos proved its possible, but you basically need a whole bespoke game mode for it. combat patrol is like halfway there but didnt drill down far enough on the concessions and balancing tools needed to actually make it work

>>96972947
>photos
I'll try to remember to take some next time
>tips
you don't want my tips, I lose every single time lmao

>>96972988
I don't think o&tanon plays but I might be wrong. I guess I wasn't really considering people with unpainted stuff but you don't get many greytiders posting games

>>96973058
I think he said he plays boarding action and kill team with his painted stuff now
and I'm 90% sure one of those guys posting their newrecruit list that was all marine veterans and terminators was him too

>>96972947
nice

>>96972846
The seething about these two getting offscreened is hilarious, people begging for a novelization of their death

>>96973181
Where are you getting this from?

>>96971897
This dude has mastered the GW look, but he only has a very limited, even if worthwhile selection on STLs.
If it was legal he could actually fix everything that's wrong with space marines currently

Look what I found looking through storage. Painted these maybe 10 years ago.

If GW ever revives them I pray they have zero(0) MKX.

>>96972868
Leandros is a paranoid fuck that sees chaos corruption everywhere.

>>96973194
Well, that's your retirement fund sorted out right there.

>>96971897
wtf, this doesn't actually look like shit.

>>96973191
you weren't kidding, he nails it. do you have any printed examples?

can regular eldar aspect/corsairs work as a melee army? or are they too frail and pillow fisted?

>>96971897
>>96973191
>>96973232
Bottom left head is almost 1:1 one of the 2013 tactical kit heads with a hood added on, I just painted one up lmao

>>96973196
No, he has only ever expressed that kind of doubts towards titus, and rightfully so
even his mentor was afraid of him
leandros didn't become chaplain by being incompetent or unreliable or a poor judge of character

just you wait for when they reveal that the voice he heard was nemeroth's

>>96973261
Nope, nemeroth is fully dead, it was the emperor, titus is a living saint
stay mad leandrosfag, he's going to fall to chaos in his quest to prove himself right

>>96971897
Share the stl, brother

>>96971897
These look great, I was thinking of replacing the Judiciar's head with something else. Hooded Beak, or Hooded Skull looks awesome compared to skull mask with face-mask.

>>96972955
I have more termies than I know what to do with. If I remember this is what I have:
>10 big new termies
>30 middlehammer termies
>30 twisty legs 2nd edition plastic termies
>30 metal 2nd edition termies
>5 middlehammer deathwing knights
>the 11 special BA termies from spacehulk
>20 or so characters in termie armor
Not all painted sadly and not all in the same army

>>96973272
>Nope, nemeroth is fully dead
He became a fucking demon, you retard, he was taunting titus at the end of the first game
Demons don't die when they're killed

>>96973295
That's a nice purple, which ones do you use?

>>96973300
He didn't ascend, did you even play the game?

>>96973316
Yes, he fucking did and boasted about it, retard.

>>96973295
Do you have a full Deathwing?

>>96973324
Ah so you didn't play the game
No wonder you're so gay for a future heretic

>>96973324
>No, Nemeroth did not ascend in
Space Marine 2 because Captain Titus killed him before he could complete his transformation into a Daemon Prince. Although Nemeroth was partially transformed and his voice was heard after his death, he was ultimately defeated before his ascension was complete.

>>96973310
Thanks. It's nothing special.
AP alien purple primer (50/50 xereus purple and genestealer purple works too)
Highlights with genestealer purple with more white added in each highlight
Recess shade/panel line with black

>>96973341
Begone abominable intelligence.

Remember:
>If you don't see the body...

>>96973352
>They Hated AI because it spoke the truth

>>96973345
cheers

>>96973355
You see his headless body careening away at the end of the game thoughbeit

>>96973233
Way too squishy to be a melee army.

>>96973331
>>96973341
there's no "in-between" transformation

he clImed demonhood, transformed, boasted about having become unassailable, threatened titus that it wouldn't matter now because he would rise again and then fucking laughed when being "killed"

You're a fool if you think he wasn't a demon by that point, or that there's not going to be any payoff about the one ominous character trait titus has

>>96973295
I'm mad at myself for not remembering your termies purpleanon, apologies king

>>96973375
As opposed to Dark Eldar who are even squishier and a mostly melee army?

>>96973388
You're a retard who's wrong about everything you spout off about
the secret level episode hammers home that he's been unique since he was a child, well before nemeroth got killed and that he's so mentally unassailable a daemon couldn't instagib him like it did with the rest
but hey, (you) tried

>>96973402
I'm literally right about everything I've said
which is why you have to refute some bullshit claim I never made instead or the shit I've actually said
I'm not saying titus is special because of nemeroth, I'm saying that he's not hearing the emperor, but nemeroth at the end of sm2

>>96973328
I suppose I do in a way. They're split across my purple guys, BA and greytide though.

>>96973438
Your fanfic does not matter and neither does your crying
Titus has two models, he's not turning traitor

I got some krieg a week ago and am trying to come up with some sorta background stuff for them because I'm a lorefag for my guys. I'm really struggling with the nature of them being krieg and their whole identity essentially being faceless fodder that will happily march into a meat grinder. Other regiments, there's still a human side to them but krieg feels particularly stripped of that, and I get that's by intent but it feels kinda hard to work with. How do you give an identity to something that's essentially not supposed to have one without feeling like you're detracting from it?

god i hate elves

>>96973448
I didn't say he was turning traitor either you illiterate triple retard

>>96973495
>I-I didn't say that I just said that he's totally corrupted and resurrected by nemeroth
Done trying to discuss something with an actual retard

>>96973504
>I just said that he's totally corrupted and resurrected by nemeroth
I didn't say that either
God, please, stop posting if you're unable to read.

>>96973504
>gets proven wrong
>devolves into one insane strawman after another
just take the loss with grace, anon

>>96973452
You attach a commissar to them as the “straight man” continually shocked by their willingness to fuck up the mission by wasting their lives

>>96973542
>n-no I didn't say that I just brought up that it's nemeroth he's hearing for no reason ackshually
concession accepted
>>96973552
The only one who lost here is the one having to craft a headcanon to justify sucking off one of the worst written characters in all of 40k media

Hey guys gimme some suggestions.

So I managed to shave down the imperial symbol on the leg and the shoulderpad, but obviously I let the chest one cause I didnt think I could get rid of it without destroying the piece. Ill just incorporate it in the paint scheme i suppose.

A. What should I do with the birds? Should I stick them to the base and just paint them up as cool bloody birds or put them on another model

>>96972854
That's the shittiest direction GW could take him.

Leandros' charm, aside from filtering self-insertfags who get mad at him dogging om Titus, is that he is ultimately as loyal as Titus. His rigid adherence to dogma - which is also why he's a perfect chaplain - is why they clash, not because of some lame sekrit heretic plot. The two are practically tailor made for buddy cop adventures where they constantly bicker and argue over the "right" way to be loyal and I'll be super disappointed if we never get thst because GW decided to hijack Titus.

>>96973573
B. Should I add these wings to the jump pack to nightlord-ify him a bit more?

>>96973577
>not because of some lame sekrit heretic plot.
Nobody said that, learn to read

>>96971218
The recruiting world of a main character chapter is worth more than a hundred no name forge worlds

>>96973573
>Ill just incorporate it in the paint scheme i suppose.
Should be easy enough to turn those into bat wings with some greenstuff.

>>96973388
Warcom called him a mere sorcerer anon. Granted, the chaos gods can bring back whoever they want because they're the writer's pet but he was good and properly dead

>>96973596
I dont have any greenstuff and like I said I dont wanna fuck up the chest piece trying to shave it. Ill just leave it.

>>96973570
>no, I didn't say that I just brought up that it's nemeroth he's hearing
Correct, was that so difficult? How many times did you have to reread it to get it?

god i love elves

>>96973588
>Leandros is turning traitor
That's what I was responding to, learn to read. The specifictime of turning is irrelevant, it'd be the gayest direction to take him. Randomly having eldar kidnap him was already stupid, he didn't need to be anything more special than a Codex autist

isnt it kinda sad that the imperium gets BTFO all the time?
why would anyone want to play as them?

>>96973643
Weak bait bitch

>>96973632
>Randomly having eldar kidnap him was already stupid
That's not something gw made up yesterday, it's been leandros's backstory for a while now
him not following the codex properly was what lead to his capture and he's become dogmatic from that because he felt at fault for deaths that happened in that situation
Titus saved him and took leandros under his wing, and that was why he had him in his close retinue in the first game

>the new Blood Angels models are ba-
Lemme stop you right there. No, they're not. You're just a paintlet.

>>96973670
>posts the only good one
BA bros are mad about the new SG not the characters

>>96973670
notice how it's not a sangniggary guard

>>96973612
Doing heavy converting without having greestuff to at the very least help you repose things and gap filling is a recipe for disappointment in the finished product

>>96973632
No you fucking mongoloid, that's peak 40k
the #1 cause of humanity falling to chaos is blind adherence to dogma
Sorry your noblebright wankjob of a badly written character isn't canon!

>>96973670
this was one of those "sculptor submitted it as a joke" models, wasn't it? like classic nagash.

>>96973660
Very weak bait considering that they lowk win too much

3rd company, best company

>>96973632
>Randomly having eldar kidnap him was already stupid
that's been canon since 2011 secondary-kun

are there any decent llms you can ask about rules?

>u want goruden demon?
>u need non-metarric metaru

>>96973736
It should be a Spanish accent to be on point.

I got the Sanctifiers kill team, decided I should build a proper army to put them in, what do I get next?

>>96973736
>>96973740
Seconding
But also yes correct, nmm is a skill check, the better you can pull it off the better of a painter you are

>>96973725
>are there any decent llms
no

>>96973707
*Not enuff

>>96973736
There's more room for nuance in nmm and volumetric lighting. There's only so much that can be critiqued in an eavy metal style paintjob. It's just the smoothness, and then the sharpness in your highlights.

>>96973766
I mean, there are few big wins, but no big losses either

Obviously they have to maintain eternal war but I think they could have a few more big events without changing the real long term balance of power. I wish things like cadia were painted as being bigger disasters, and things like the indomitus crusade were painted as bigger wins

Too pink? Or not too pink enough?

I think TMM looks better than nmm
its more easy too.

>>96973665
>>96973719
Huh, I stand corrected. Fair enough, I never knew that.

I'll also concede those extra details make it sound much less dumb than a randomly included tidbit thrown into the tail end of a warcom article.
>>96973702
>a badly written character
Yep, we got a serious case of self-insertfag seethe here.

>>96973800
Should've gone with a deeper shade of red or something for the exposed flesh imho. It blends in too much with all the pink.

>>96973806
I agree, honestly. NMM is impressove but I don't really enjoy it

>>96973736
yeah man I don't get it my leadbelcher washed with nuln oil should more than enough to win golden demon

>>96973806
In person tmm usually looks better unless you're viewing the nmm miniature from its golden angle. In photos though nmm always looks better because metallics don't photograph that well regardless of medium or use

What's a model you like from an army you hate

>>96973867
The new tau twins

>>96973577
>The two are practically tailor made for buddy cop adventures where they constantly bicker and argue over the "right" way to be loyal
True, I agree.

>>96970990
Like all daemon characters save for Vashtorr he's foremost an AoS character. His activities in 40k are an afterthought.

Do people actually use 6 battleline squads, aka 30-60 intercessors like the codex says? seems kind of boring considering how many options are available

>>96973867
Hammerhead

>>96973881
No. People run elite spam. Battle line suck ass.

>>96973881
Most people take the bare minimum troops so they can run the cool/good stuff

>>96973881
I used 4 squads of 10 last weekend, its actually fucking awesome

>>96973881
>>96973897
They were 20 Intercessors and 20 Assault Intercessors

>>96973881
Seriously? No

But I have thought it would be funny to take 40-50 assault intercessors and 40-50 intercessors with some tanks and one character to do a ceramite horde

>>96973916
>You can't kill us all!
A classic battle plan

>>96973907
assault intercessors are considered "close combat support" which are separate from battleline squads
battle companies are listed for
6 Battleline Squads (pretty much just Intercessors and Heavy intercessors)
2 Close Support Squads (anyone with a sword, bike, or jetpack and atv for some reason)
2 Fire Support Squads (the actual fun stuff)
seems limiting for battleline honestly

>>96973881
The old company organisation doesn't really make sense with current units, even though they sometimes pretend it does. Intercessors aren't tactical squads, and tactical squads are entirely redundant. Primaris marines change between tacticus, gravis and phobos on a missin by mission basis, they're not designated to one unit type.

>>96973867
Why do you hate the Votannians? What have they done to you?

>>96973935
I feel like marines could lowk pull it off, especially considering their better saves and 2 wounds compared to orks or guard, kind of no-sells a lot of "criwd control" weapons

>>96973867
The ironkin big thinker from that same release, funnily enough. If I could make an all-ironkin army for Votann I'd like em a lot more.

>>96973955
In game assault intercessors are battleline for purposes of the 6 units rule, they just aren't battleline in the codex astartes. Retarded ik but true nonetheless, this is gw

What kit were power stabbas and killsaws for Nobz in?

>10 battle companies per chapter
>functionally only 2 of them even matter

>>96973956
10 Hellblasters with an Lt. for Lethal Hits plus oath of moment nukes a full 10 man AssInts on drop, its rough.

>>96973955
>battle companies
Yeah people's lists aren't really meant to be a perfect reflection of a whole company

if the robots for votann werent so british coded I would collect them. Thats honestly my issue with so many 40k factions, they're too british.

>>96974015
Ah nvm it's just the Nobz kit. Missed it on the pic

how would a primarch or character possibly last thousands of years when a stray armor piecing shot could blow their heads off?

>>96974135
Immortality is not invincibility

>>96974088
But this is what britbong robots look like

>>96974139
the strongest armor of all, plot armor

>>96974135
Obviously it makes no sense but they are still badass

I got a little bit of store credit at the GW store, and I want to use it on one of the Online Only items. I can't decide between Yvrainne and a Fire Prism

>>96974135
stupid boy, even lowly guards officers have their own shields. your fucking 9mm toy gun that you fire off on the weekends with your prick friends isn't going to do anything.

>>96972962
Mine are still partially unpainted, will post them when I come back from training my massive muscles.

>>96974146
spoiler this next time i scare

>>96973596
Link's Awakening ass skull.
Nice.

>>96974186
Sry!

>>96973881
A full company list of 100 marines plus command plus armoury, veterans etc. would be huge. No one woud start off by taking max battleline.

elves >:(

>>96974197
They’re not going anywhere papo

>>96973970
>They don't all have craggly skin
>Their boots/ankles look retarded
>The random not-norse shit that's boring and ugly, and also so barely there that you wonder why GW even bothered

>>96973573
>buying a brand new model just to destroy it without any plan on what to do with what remains

>>96974233
well if this picture is your idea of what looks good i'm glad you have absolutely no say in GWs art direction

>>96973612
A chaos lord with less ornamentation than a regular loyalist marine is full retard

>>96974243
All I did was shave down some imperial symbols, chill your fatalism.

>>96974258
And the feather cape and the tassels and weapons and all that dont count as ornamentation?

>>96974255
It's just a better looking, more unique version of what we actually got
>Uh, just throw some weird animal head on here with some gibberish runes
>But don't make them norse-themed in any other way just some random runes here and there that don't blend with the armor at all

>>96973867
eldrad or the visarch. both have almost convinced me to start an eldar army, but then i look at the rest of the range and recoil

>>96974274
I think its gonna look great anon. You should try shaving off the aquilla too, it's not hard if you use sandpaper or something like it

>>96973741
Imperial agents have some nice minis but they are a hot mess rules wise

>>96974274
Nothing even close to basic chaos ornamentation

>>96974282
the rest of the runes are on the transfer sheet

>>96973612
>converting a model with no greenstuff
What exactly WERE you planning on doing? I don't even understand

>>96974291
Thanks for the encouragement anon. Im already coming up with paint ideas for the chest piece, so I think ill keep it. Maybe i can fit it into the character's backstory somehow too.
What do you think about the wings on the jump pack idea?

>>96974305
Its fine, Ill paint all the lightning and freehand on the model and itll look ornate enough.

>>96974282
forgot my pic

>>96973867
I don't hate any armies, but I would consider it a punishment if I were forced to make a Tyranid force. That said, the Carnifex is a great looking creature, and generally always has been.

>>96973233
IMO no, scorpions are shit, storm guardians are shit you only take for sticky objectives, banshees are good for an alpha strike to nuke a unit but will die immediately after

>>96974321
Having fun and trying some new things out?

>>96974322
I think you should go with just the jump pack

>>96974319
My main point is that the runes are a complete after thought seemingly. The armor is very plain, has no symbolism or anything, their guns are plain, their vehicles are plain. It looks like they made a generic scifi army, which is fine, but then said "Oh shit, we need to make them 'unique'. Throw some runes on there idk" If they wanted to go the awful norse route they should have had the balls to actually do that instead of just tacking on a few random little things

>>96974335
You're literally not trying anything. You won't remove the chest aquila because that will ruin it according to you, but you removed everything else, and you're not replacing them with anything

>>96971133
Is that pokemon? Fucking lol.

>>96974353
calm down nomodels
let him hobby how he likes

>>96974353
Nta but chill anon let's see how it turns out

>>96974340
>the runes are a complete after thought

no

>The armor is very plain, has no symbolism or anything

almost like they deliberately and thoughtfully left you spaces to incorporate the runic and clan transfer symbols

>>96971474
What's it with the gladius vehicles where they all look like an IFV but they're supposed to be proper battle vehicles, while the repulsor and executioner are actually IFVs but they look like main battle tanks

>>96974360
He can waste all the time and money he wants, he asked for suggestions and is just saying no I'm not gonna do that but expecting praise. At this rate his chaos lord is going to be a completely smooth primaris marine

Is there anyone here who actually plays who can give me some listbuilding advice

>>96974353
Shaving the other imperial bits on the model without destroying them was a new thing for me to try.
Shaving the chest piece was too small and I was worried it would destroy it too much. Its also very central so I made the concesion to use it as is.
Also I just said I'd be doing freehanding and lightning on the parts that I removed, so I am replacing them with other stuff.
Also, I didnt take a pic but I added a bunch of extra stuff on the base rock, like hands crawling out of the toxic sludge and skulls and even a rotted/flayed corpse.
So I'm happy enough with the changes I made. I might even add those wings cause I think they look cool but ill decide that later.

>>96974168
Yvraine
>Can only be used in one detachment
>Has a base profile that doesn't allow proxying
>Is a pain in the ass to paint
>Almost required to get the Yncarne and Visarch as well to make the detachment work
>Is fairly middling on the table
Fire Prism
>Nice hover tank, could probably use it as a stand-in for a different hover tank too
>Big gun
>Fairly easy to paint, lots of smooth surfaces
>Can be useful on the table
The only reason to ever get Yvraine is as a display model so you can occasionally glance at her fat hips.

>>96974401
Yeah. I'm the little league champion of my city.

>>96974396
>expecting praise
You're just sperging out because somebody's doing something you don't approve of
Why don't you buy some models for once and convert them how you like instead of crying that his chaos lord doesn't look exactly like every other chaos lord kit

>>96971717
tiresome misconception and simplification that i've seen multiple times in these threads and only ever in these threads from assumedly the same self important American over and over and it does remind me to stop coming to these shit threads with you schizophrenic losers.

>>96974396
>he asked for suggestions and is just saying no I'm not gonna do that
I specifically asked for suggestions on what to do with the birdgunthings and the wings.

>>96974412
go back to auspex discord you polak

>>96974416
>misconception
it isn't, the appalachian accent is the original english accent, the american accent came after and the new british accent came after that
sorry about your schizo meltdown but unfortunately jakposters are less than human and thus I'm telling you to kys yourself

>>96974412
Okay sure. What is the best vanguard unit for my melee-focused 1000pt sm army? Scouts, infiltrators, or incursors? Also is it worth it to try to move block turn 1 ro create space for my terminators to deep strike/rapid ingress up the board, or should I focus on other strategies?

>>96974430
>appalachian accent is the original english accent
>one particular regional accent that is dying out that you could see as similar to original settlers
>similar to other EU accents that are left to inbreeding hilldwellers to die out
>yeah but base US accent that literally everyone speaks is totally older overall man
kill yourself and your over simplification of fucking accents in order to "get one over" on strawmen English people. and double kill yourself for the fact that i've seen (YOU) give the same "fun fact" multiple times because you're so buttblasted by the UK for some reason

>>96974470
>calls others schizos
>immediately turns schizo when proven wrong
lol?

>>96974478
original poster equated all US accents to that appalachian inbred hermit accent. hence oversimplification in bad faith repeated over and over until you retards start believing it. And then acting like it's unique and something you've got over the englishers. I'm going to come back in these threads in a few weeks and see the EXACT same poster post that fun fact out of context again so nothing fucking matters.

>>96974505
Bud (you) can't call others schizos while screaming about a well-known factoid about accents being posted all being from one person because you don't like it
Genuinely take a break from this site, your mental state is clearly deteriorating

>>96974335
No offence mate but it would be a good idea to try it out *with* greenstuff. Its honestly not that intimidating to use and will be very helpful.

>>96974168
Fire prism, ynnari are in for a squatting

>what's going on in /40kg/ tonight?
>lingustics autism
Not on my bingo card, that's for sure.

>>96974516
sorry about correcting you sir, sorry sir, I'll go back now sir. Yes sir, well known fact that everyone in the US speaks like appalachian hillbillies sir. This has been my first post on 4chan in like a week. and if it makes you use your fucking brain for two seconds it's worth it.

>>96974505
NTA
can't help but notice you ignored that other anon BTFOing you here >>96974467

>>96974430
That's bollocks. It's yrue that british accents have largely lost their rhoticity in the 20th century, but no accent today matches those from before 1800

>>96974530
this general really attracts the biggest retards on this board

>>96974532
there are accents in the UK that do similar things, it's not special. North UK says wuhk. it's only a BTFO if you are American and like to think you do everything "better" for no reason.

>>96974408
>The only reason to ever get Yvraine is as a display model so you can occasionally glance at her fat hips.
Do you people really not know what a bustle is?

>>96974550
Oh you just have an inferiority complex and a lack of reading comprehension, that makes more sense

>>96974558
I would rather pretend to be ignorant and instead imagine she has child bearing hips

>>96974558
Its expressly designed to simulate having a fat ass, and the model isn't real either way so what's the difference

>>96974573
When the argument reaches the point where they're just calling each other illiterate is when you know it's more about getting the last word in and making the other person admit that you're right than it is about the thing they're arguing about

Is it true that eldar poop crystals?

>>96974558
Anon what's more likely
>Eldar also invented and continue to use bustles, even in Commoragh
>Ynnead is an ass man

What genetic defect were they trying to remove from the Salamanders that ended up making the Black Dragons of the Cursed Founding?

>>96974590
Eldar aren't real mate

>>96974583
If you know anything about historical women's dress it's clearly a bustle

>>96974594
I wanna say something but I fear I'll get a vacation if I do.

>>96974466
scouts are meta at the moment because they're not only the cheapest option but have all the skills for some daft reason. blocking scout moves with infiltrators can be really useful, but waiting for a turn two deep strike probably not workable.

>>96973573
I'd save the birds for something else Night Lords have nothing to do with birds

>>96971226
>mini hasn't been released yet
>already legends
Lmao

>>96974621
I mean, I deploy scouts to prevent my opponent from getting physically in range of the teleport homer by the end of their movement phase, thus allowing my terminators to not have to footslog for a turn to get to the point

Where did kaptin badrukk go?

>>96974637
Look at him. He's all pirate-y

>>96971226
I hate niggers

>>96974594
Salamanders had a very low percent of successful geneseed implantation. This is why they had so few successor chapters (more easily maintained genelines were normally chosen for a founding, like DA, IF or Ultras) and why it took them so long to recover from the Drop Site Massacre.
The cursed founding modifications were trying to alleviate that.

>>96974643
It would be pretty funny if we get Huron Blackheart and Prince Yriel but no Badrukk

Is there any resource to help me colormatch gw paints to those of other brands?

>>96974594
Maybe they were trying to make them even more resistant to temperature and radiation so they tried splicing in weird ayylmao dragon dna and it went bad

>>96974630
Thanks for the tip anon. I was also leaning on leaving them off because they didnt fit the vibe of the base what with the skulls and such.

>>96974636
If you want my real advice I'd say not to play terminators at all, but also the teleport homer is saving you 1 cp on a rapid ingress. is that really worth list building and strategising around? the homer is a fun bonus nothing more.

>>96974646
Put the trip back on

>>96974659
the stahly swatches pdf is posted in /wip/ pretty often

>>96974662
Don't you run a krethusa as a nightbringer proxy? Would make cool ability counters or something, I'm not too familiar with the datasheet.

>>96974667
Well I wouldn't be trying to do that every game, just if it seemed like it would work...

Are terminators really so bad they're not worth taking in the first place?

>>96974669
You know where we are right? More people than you-know-who like to say power word: basketball american. But yeah probably the wrong board for it.

>>96974680
>Don't you run a krethusa as a nightbringer proxy?
In theory anyway. In the past year Ive managed to get one game of anything warhammer and that was one kt game. Thats a pretty cool idea though.

Ill have to find a new home for Krethusa now that the Nightbringer's got an awesome new model on the horizon.

>>96974684
Unless you're running dark angels and deathwing knights they're overpriced and unimpressive.

>>96974669
That’s not me you slanderer

>>96974712
What units are better for, say fighting enemy heavy infantry or taking space without hetting killed in shooting?

>>96974744
Do you sit and monitor these threads for anything that could be related to you all day round? Mental illness.

>>96974772
Why don’t you just stop talking shit 24/7? Stop responding to me you creep.

Take your own advice

No YOU take the advice because its YOU who has the problem.

This shit fucking sucks. You'd need to have bought 120$ for a single squad of stealth suits, since now they're in 5s.

What a load of bullshit regarding the kill team unit balancing too- A squad of scouts with plasma for the furfags and our stealth suits get nerfed in every direction
>Oh you get two more
Fuck you

Side note the thesis proposal went alright ig.

>>96974753
heavy intercessors with a gravis captain are only 10 points more expensive than 5 basic terminators.

>>96974819
just field a few empty bases for stealthed models.

Can a voidraven bomber be used for transport?

>>96974602
Yeah and a bustle is a low tech fat ass simulator.
Like platform shoes are a not-a-manlet simulator. Or the obvious function of a corset/Wonderbra.

>>96974829
Hmm okay, I'll keeo that in mind

I'm still gonna go with terminators bcuz rule of cool and the meta changes but it's good to know this is the way you optimize the game I suppose

Hopefully assault termies are better in 11th. Surely they'll make them good with them being one of the newest models right?

>>96973916
>>96973935
Black Templars did this for like 3 weeks before GW got so ass mad black tide worked again they fisted the faction to competitive irrelevance for the remainder of 10th
Hilariously they were fine with BT winning tournaments for months as long as it was only because they got to put multi meltas on their vehicles

>>96974684
Regular Terminators are notoriously underpowered and need a Librarian to get better shooting (Libraius Conclave lets you stack other buffs too). Assault Terminators are more viable but still niche, though being the new and shiny thing, they’ve had more rules support lately. Apparently the new Iron Hands Detachment with the new character is strong for Terminators, while the new Ultramarine one gives you lots of mobility with Terminator Calgar letting you spam advance and charge for three turns (or advance and shoot)

>>96974021
Yeah but look at the points that setup costs and it’s very fragile for the investment

>>96974395
English metal head sci fi nerds don’t know anything about weapons of war and it’s fine

>>96974924
They're funny like that
>>96974929
My plan is assault terminators w/ librarian. Using the dmg calculators the sustained hits 1 is actually pretty huge

>>96974891
GW is weird, often new models get cracked rules but sometimes they’re just shit for no reason even though the model is awesome and brand new and some really cool minis just have permanently shit rules edition to edition

Can I run Clanrats as Chaos Cultists?

>>96974996
Sure can, they’d be cool 40K Beastmen too. I’d see if you can get your hands on a mess of laspistols though and maybe some shredded 40K bits on the bases or as decorative bits just to sell it a bit more

>>96974996
wouldn't they need bolt guns

>>96974710
>Ill have to find a new home for Krethusa
Would make for a cool alt celestine if you can find two appropriately edgy side hoes for here maybe the dok harpy sluts.

>>96975017
I can just give them assorted guns from my bits box I guess

>>96974996
I wouldn't be fussed about it. If you're looking for guns I know people used to put the mechanicus skitari rifles on the old kit. I also think the ashwaste nomads and candor gang could be a good source of scifi arms/ramshackle weapons

>>96975033
>>96974996
Forgot image hurr

>>96974868
The only thing it transports is massive bombs that are hilariously overpowered in the lore and do hilariously nothing on the tabletop.

>>96974991
Gw is just totally shit at balancing their own rules and picks point costs entirely based on vibes if they aren't completely at random.

>build and paint a 2000+ pt army
>no friends
>too scared to join local 40k club
>sell army for 5% of what I spent
>second time I've done this
>just gonna paint alone

any other anons know that feel??

>>96975067
Have you considered being less autistic or alternatively painting two armies and playing against yourself?

>>96975067
Why would you sell the army instead of displaying it and cherishing the art you made

>>96975082
>>96975079

I'm autistic and retarded, I hope that answers your questions.

>>96975067
You should talk to a therapist anon, preferably a male one. They can help with that social anxiety. I'm rooting for you.

>>96975067
>sell army for 5% of what I spent

as someone who's sold almost a dozen armies over the years, NEVER accept less than 50% MSRP for a used army sale. you can always get at least that much, almost completely regardless of the condition of the army, unless you have literally smashed the minis under a steamroller, you should be able to get at least half of what they cost new. warhammer stuff holds its value really well and demand is very high for it

>>96975092
Buy a glass fronted cabinet and build a shrine to your autistic retardation filled with little plastic dudes, I recommend it. Reliable passive dopamine dispenser.

>>96975110
People always forget that conquest and diplomacy aren't the only victory conditions and the Wonder building strategy wins just as reliably.

>>96975067
why sell? plus something like kill team could be an easier way in. Go to your local gw store or whatever and off handedly ask if they do sessions where they teach you how to play or something then you can ask when do people usually game and stuff idk. desu I'm a nogames with no interest of games really but I do enjoy the kitbashing and painting so don't take my advice

>>96975092
In addition to everything else your local 40k community is guaranteed filled to the brim with other socially awkward autistic retards just like you, so it'll be easier to fit in than in other social spaces

>>96975067
Play Kill Team solo with NPO

How hard will I get fucked if I run this vibes based rule of cool list

Blood Templars (1980 points)

Space Marines
Blood Angels
Onslaught (3000 points)
Liberator Assault Group


CHARACTERS

Astorath (95 points)
• 1x The Executioner’s Axe

Captain with Jump Pack (100 points)
• 1x Relic Shield
1x Thunder hammer
• Enhancement: Speed of the Primarch

Judiciar (105 points)
• 1x Absolvor bolt pistol
1x Executioner relic blade
• Enhancement: Rage-fuelled Warrior

Librarian in Terminator Armour (90 points)
• Warlord
• 1x Force weapon
1x Smite
1x Storm bolter
• Enhancement: Gift of Foresight


OTHER DATASHEETS

Bladeguard Veteran Squad (170 points)
• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant
• 1x Master-crafted power weapon
1x Neo-volkite pistol
• 5x Bladeguard Veteran
• 5x Heavy bolt pistol
5x Master-crafted power weapon

Death Company Marines with Jump Packs (230 points)
• 10x Death Company Marine with Jump Packs
• 5x Astartes chainsword
2x Eviscerator
6x Heavy bolt pistol
2x Inferno pistol
2x Plasma pistol
3x Power weapon

Gladiator Lancer (160 points)
• 1x Armoured hull
2x Fragstorm grenade launcher
1x Icarus rocket pod
1x Ironhail heavy stubber
1x Lancer laser destroyer

Infiltrator Squad (100 points)
• 1x Infiltrator Sergeant
• 1x Bolt pistol
1x Close combat weapon
1x Marksman bolt carbine
• 4x Infiltrator
• 4x Bolt pistol
4x Close combat weapon
1x Helix Gauntlet
1x Infiltrator Comms Array
4x Marksman bolt carbine