Thread 11519834

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Snake Lair currently funding through Aug 28th on MC. MOTU Collectors drop on Aug 26th. $$. Likely MV Dlx Moss Man.

Origins/Cartoon Collection:
>Announced at SDCC: Snake Lair, Dragstor, Sting-Or, and 200X retail refresh.
>FRIGHT ZONE available for pre-order on BBTS and EE. BBTS Shipping pre-orders now.
>Bow, Shadow Weaver, and Whiplash coming.
>Sharella, Despara, Hurricane Hordak, Vultak, He-Ro, Rio Blast and Geldor all STILL available on Mattel Creations.
>Sketchbook Sy-Klone is available at Target. Additional figures teased.
>Two-Bad is confirmed sculpted but remains unrevealed.
>1 MORE Preternia character confirmed.
>Battle for Eternia 4 pack in stock on BBTS (pre-sold out on EE).
>MotU x Transformers crossover.
>CC Swift Wind/She-Ra on MC in September.

Masterverse:
>Announced at SDCC: Mantenna, Mosquitor, Dragstor, Despara, AE He-Man, Keldor.
>40th Anniversary She-Ra, Terror Claws Skeletor, Ninjor and Blade shipping.
>NE Hordak, Teela and Kobra Khan and vintage style Stratos coming soon.
>Panthor released on Mattel Creations February 11, STILL in stock.
>MV NE Moss Man confirmed for Mattel Creations this year.

Archive:
https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/subject/MotU/

TQ: Are you ready for the MC tour of Snake Lair?

>>11519834 (OP)
>Additional
(kept getting "field too long")

Turtles of Grayskull:
>Reptile Wars final wave out featuring Ninjor, Clamp Champ, Mekaneck, Rattlor, and the 4 Turtles.
>King Hiss/Foot Soldier and Super Shredder available from BBTS.
>SDCC Con Exclusive SKELE-SHREDDER available on MC
>Some Ross getting ToG WM Dlx figures and ToG singles

Thundercats:
>Wave 1 featuring Lion-O, Cheetara, Battle Cat Man, and Skell-Ra starting to ship along with at Target retail. Wave 2 consisting of Panthro, He-Man with cat armor, and Tygra. Wave 3 in 2026 confirmed. Thundercats wave 3 is Panthor Man (BD Man repaint), Lion-O repaint, and Panthro repaint.

WWE Superstars
>Series 15 (SCSAustin, Ult Warrior, Animal, Nikolai Volkoff) spotted in Cali so far
>Series 13/14 on a WWE Summerslam floor display. Still hard to find.
>Rocky Mavia/The Final Boss 2-Pack of Dwayne Johnson coming soon

Mondo:
>1:6 Goddess sold out
>1:6 Man-E-Faces
>1:12 200X wave 1 includes He-Man, Skeletor and Clawful

Masters of the Universe: The Movie Title Reveal (June 5, 2026):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iObyWkaHtM4&pp=ygUXbWFzdGVycyBvZiB0aGUgdW5pdmVyc2U%3D [Embed]

>>11519834 (OP)
If Mattel has the Thundercats license and is doing 2002 He-Man, does that mean there's hope for a Thundercats 2011 line?

>>11519863
They don’t have the license outright which is why they have to be X heman branded and can’t be packaged in their og looks. The swap outs were a great workaround.

>>11519493
Just read this mini comic last night. Skeletor has a totally sweet MOTU playset. I'm definitely envious.

>>11519863
I am so fucking excited for this. Mattel has put episodes up on their Youtube channel and I've been watching episodes on my lunch breaks.
Having Gary Chalk and Scott McNeil doing voices also gives it a nostalgic Beast Wars vibe to me.

Here's my pitch.
Rocket Robin Hood.
Only the dead have heard of him.
This Space outlaw and his band of lovable rogues.

>>11520018
That's his look in the pilot.
they nixed the helmet and mask.

>>11520021
Bad guy (The Sheriff) was somewhat "flamboyant" and his "regular" design was a little less in the pigmentation.

>>11519963
It's so cool knowing we're doing the same thing. I'm trying not to finish them all because I want to watch them while holding on the toys already. The wait is so hard

Marian's design stays the same.

Maybe they are from the future or something so that the idea of "Robbing" isn't bad.

>>11519959
>Skeletor makes foam board dioramas to display his figures in
>Probably means he's a toy photography fag too

Based

Did we get any info about the new MV release dates?
Other than Moss Man.

>>11520085
>Skeletor definitely posts on /toy/

>>11520113
That screenshot doesn't have the official logo on the OP?
>this shitpost is spam

>>11520132
Lol
>ZATLIT
Boy where does the time go

>>11519959
>>11520085

I keep saying, scene like this should be recreated for a movie. And there should be a special release of movie-accurate figures.

>>11520094
We never get any info about release dates at all until the start of the month when the launch calendar for that month goes up.

>>11520159
Fair enough. I had hoped we had a vague idea from sdcc. But it's all good. Thank you.

>>11520132
Dude, chill out. I just grabbed a screenshot of this thread to make the image. You want to post the "official logo" I'll tweak the image if it will help you sleep at night.

>>11520192
You are the one who needs to take a chill pill dude. It was clearly a joke, something that veterans of the /motu/ generals should recognize. That other anon got it.

>>11520204
>It was clearly a joke, something that veterans of the /motu/ generals should recognize.
Well alrighty then. I'll admit to being new to the generals. That said I can modify the image if people want.

>>11520217
It's fine...we used to have some really uptight users who would freak out if a new thread was posted before the current one was in page ten. Or if the image in the OP didn't have the "official" Motu logo.

Anons even made memes about it. I just dont have them saved on this phone.

In one of the interviews in the MotU mini-comics collection, they mention that they had print runs larger than the most successful full-size comics ever, "I think 6 million".
In the peak years of 1985-6, each figure either came with a unique mini-comic or shared theirs with a second (like pic related, Modulok and Thunder Punch He-Man). If we assume unique comic = 3 million printed, instead of the character being produced in double quantity, that's still 3 million of each action figure for English-speaking markets alone.
That's almost enough for each of the 3.6 million boys and girls who turned 5 in the USA to own each figure.

>>11520018
>>11520021
As the only other capeshit autist here who knows of Rocket Robin Hood I'm all for it. Especially if it gets Merryman Pochahontas in the line.

>>11520021
I kind of wish they'ed kept it. Mighty Hercules underwent his own downgrade from pilot to full series too. He's kitted out with all kinds of fun accessories on his way down from Olympus, only to be left with just the ring after a few eps.

>>11520029
NA is sort of like Jar Jar. If utilized properly it could be "the key to all of this". Despite the 30 year difference NA would mesh really well with RRH just as Mighty Herc would with standard MOTU. I can easily see the Merrymen joining forces with the Galactic Guardians against the Space Mutants.

>>11520249
I really wish WWEternia was still around..

Shop anon here. Not sure if this alright, but I really like this art that Eddie Nunez did for ForEternia.com. Figured I'd scale it up and remove the website logo to turn it into a regular wallpaper. Not trying to take credit for other people's work, just wanted to make something with slightly broader use.

>>11520431
Here is the original artwork for due credit's sake.

>>11520249
>>11520336
From what I've been told the extra layer of approvals was kinda hell and Walmart tired of the line quickly. Superstars wasn't even expected to go on this long and now it's a regular damn line with new figures each year. It scratches that retro Remco itch, it gets wrestling fans, and pulls in MOTU fans. Without the MOTU accessories they are free to add more hands. alt heads, and cloth gear in the budget.

>>11520491
>they are free to add [...] cloth gear in the budget.

That's the best part.

(I wish Origins had bare legs for King Hiss, like Classics did.)

>>11520491
>extra hands
Damn straight. I wish Mattel would release a Motu geek pack with extra hands, weapons, boots etc. A lot of my WWEternia mooks got outfitted with any spare stuff I could find.

There were plans for Galaxy Fighters to have a "Castle of Doom"... and female figures?

MotU kobolds are 6-foot purple humanoids with weird tubes on their backs and elongated backs of the head, kind of like a Xenomorph.

MotU goblins are 6-foot buff gray mercenaries.

While MotU orcs are what we'd usually call goblins.

MotU gnolls are green humanoids whose gaze drains strength.

>>11520567
Yo where did you find this picture? I've only ever seen the illustration on the cardback.

Eternian trolls from the "Dragon's Gift" mini-comic.

"Ice trolls" from the Filmation version.

And the very different Etherian trolls.
Which of these "standard fantasy races" (but not) would you want figures of?

>>11520591
Some guy called Perú Toys 80s on Facebook. He didn't name a source.

Stream was lackluster. No changes. No listening to the stream comments despite doing the usual PR pitch that they "care" what fans think.

>>11520664
Any good stream comments they were ignoring?

>>11520266
>Anons even made memes about it.

Yo

Let's wishlist again

>They're re-doing the 200x series
>It's that ugly cartoon style and not like the original toys

>>11520741
Also
>basing it on the toon guarantees we won't see articulated versions of 200x Mosquitor, Snout Spout and anyone else that was only in the mini statue line

>>11520523
>Libertarian Frog Monger

>>11520531
They already had the Rattlor legs by the time he released too didnt they? Talk about a wasted opportunity.
>>11520567
Apparently many of the dime store/budget oriented rip off MOTU lines offered their own castles in addition to accessories and battle mounts. I'm no surprised Sungold wanted a liece of that pie.

>>11520741
>>11520746
I could see them digging up the 4HM sculpts down the road as part of a refresh for the 200X collection.

>>11520675
*taps the sign*

>>11520675
My wishlist never changes, because they never make any of it for me to tick off some names
>vintage: Two-Bad, Blast-Attak, Saurod, Twistoid
>sketchbook: Wrap Trap, Dylamug, Snowman, witch, Tank Top, big brain, Gygor
>comics/golden books: Goat Man, Garn, Lodar, Rana, Kex Queen, Mindbeast, Shezar, Skelcon

Strongarm and Batros used to be on my wishlist, but I pulled them off when Cartooon Collection hit since I know now they won't be done Kol Darr style to fit my existing collection.

Battle-Armor Becky-Or!

>>11520776
Being a vintage Evil Warriors fan sure is suffering, huh? Your wishlist of 4 isn't even all of them.

>>11520803
I mean, I'll prob buy Blade too, but I'm not exactly excited for him or would lose sleep if they didn't make him, you know?

>>11520741
here you go!

>>11520759
ewww

>>11520759
Image is missing the Felinor variant with golden Mer-Man armor.

nudist She-Ra anon here. Got my BBTS order finally.

>>11520741
Let's hope Mondo get's it done.

>>11520935
She strips because she has Daddy issues.

>>11520604
I am so hard RN. This made my week. I love all the Galaxy Hole stuff and this castle has always just been a rumour.
>>11520757
>apparently many...offered their own castles
Respectfully, I don't know if this is true. I know of the Galaxy Hole version we are discussing and the Haunted Castle. What other ones do you know of?

>>11520741
Cartoon style always looked better and equal to the toys. But I will say the toys could improve from the prototypes

>>11520675
Needs 2002 Teela and War Whale

>>11520776
Wrap Trap was done already

>>11520759
Who?

>>11521124
2nd

>>11520666
>Any good stream comments they were ignoring?
Usual things you'd expect. Complaints about the price. Complaints about not finishing the Vintage line still. Lot of complaints today about Filmation ending when they want to see it finished. Quite a few complaints about the Lair design being so boxy especially when compared in halfs to Grayskull and Snake Mountain. People tried to defend the price because it's not at retail stores and others were quick to point out Snake Mountain and Fright Zone also didn't go to retail stores. Mr.HomeArcade sucking that MC dick as hard as he could the whole stream. Complaints about the shipping costs and at least foreign market buyers will have to pay two shipping Bone Queen separate from the playset cost. Trying to get people to order multiples. They showed off a cord you can string across the two playset halfs but it requires separating the front and back pieces from the metal rod allowing the fold to close as a playset.

They just kept repeating how they're listening but never answered any actual questions or addressed concerns.

Damn, this price almost feels disrespectful.

>>11520994
>What other ones do you know of?
nta but as far as fantasy sets go, assuming you meant the Monster Castle there were at least three known variants by different companies. Very thin plastic version, thicker plastic version and at least one version with glowing eyes, battery operated. Then there was a play-mat from the smaller Treasures of Those Lost Temples Warriors that came with 1:18 He-Man and She-Ra. Two known variants, one with H-M wearing the sun symbol chest armor, the other swastika armor. Then there is also La Gruta from the Monsters Of The Galaxy line. I think there was also a tree house themed playset for the MotU ko trolls iirc.

Has anyone tried putting the Cartoon collection She-Ra head on the Masterverse version? I can only find videos of the reverse on Youtube. What are the chances we get a 2.0 version of regular She-Ra, because if they just released the same figure again with the headsculpt of the New Etheria version it would immediately be a massive improvement. I'd also like for them to remove the diaphragm joint, it offers such little range of motion all it ends up doing is causing the figure to hunch over constantly.

>>11521293
It's the curse of the Bumblebee™.

>>11521152
Fuerza T

>>11520931
It's technically also missing Oolar, since he's honorary Fuerza-T

>>11521148
What the fuck are you on about?
There's no Origins wrap trap

>>11521293
Maybe he'd sell more if he changed his name?

>>11520664
>>11520666
I just got around to watching it.
The only things I saw that I think /motug/ would care about were their answers about upcoming potential product
>Keclar - no current plans to release
>Pythonus - if they don't hit the goal, same ad Keclar
>Great Black Wizard - no comment
>Rattletrap - they want to release but don't know where or how yet
>Slime Pit - stay tuned, info coming up at undisclosed time in future

>>11520782
Youve made that becky look amazing anon, i still remember getting her for like $2.50 and taking myself out for a mcdouble with the change left over.
Dunno why this thread is making me so sentimental

>>11521482
>He-Man and Bow hugging.gif

But you're Bow and I'm He-Man.

>>11521447
>Keclar - no current plans to release
>Pythonus - if they don't hit the goal, same ad Keclar

I think the consensus here would be "and nothing of value was lost".
The Elders are fine for filling in the world's backstory, but we have limited need for 5.5" action figures of old white men, and Eldor tops the list.

>>11521580
Shrugs, I think his hat makes him interesting enough. Don't get me wrong, I'm not losing sleep over not getting him but it would also be fine with me if they made him. Standor and Eldor could use another friend.

>>11521588
I'd also like a figure of Noah. He was an intruiging character.

>>11521597
Just daydreaming now but I wish Mattel would do a Council of Elders 4 pack with Keklar, Noah, Motta ans Scrollos. That shit would be so cash.
>Origins Starship Eternia for them to live on inside the Time Chamber.

Don't know if he'll be in the actual story, but Procrustus is on the cover for "Sword of Flaws_" issue 2

Masterverse Teela and Kobra Khan are up on bbts

>>11521758
Amazon as well, certainly hope Teela comes out like this promo and not like those sample photos we saw earlier .

>>11521758
Phone posting so I don't have an image, but MV Kobra Khan has a really cute head.

>>11521759
There's nothing New eternia about this figure. It's just vintage Teela in masterverse scale. The spear? that's what makes this a NE fig? Come the fuck on Mattel.

Ever think how likely the only Lost Wave guy we trully know is Strobo? And even then, comic might have messed up his colors. We dont know what were names planned for others or if there was some unique gimmick to them. Strobo had mirror instead of lenticular radar, maybe there were unique ideas for others.I think only Plasmar has sorta unique gimmick since his weapons are translucent and look like made from energy.

You think anyone wrote this stuff down back then?

>>11521936
>You think anyone wrote this stuff down back then?

They probably did. And new shit gets uncovered all the time.
Remember last year or whatever when James Eatock uncovered that a minicomic for "Evil Robot" made it to production stages?
I'd bet some day we'll learn what the original ideas for those 88 guys was

>>11521759
Sorry but if you look at the new manchild's video with her in hand its exactly as bad as those shots from toyhabits showed

>>11521953
To add to your post anon- Someone also recently got confirmation on the mail-in He-man figure. It is cool and funny how stuff like this pops up over time.

>>11521315
Why is he? I consider him to be Pre-Ternia. The 88 wave is more a honorary Fuerza-T.

these two together are so fucking awesome

>>11522010
You could make a dinosaur story with them. The neanderhaler and his sabertooth friend.

>>11520567
This sort of thing would have been great scaled for MEGA figures.

>>11521936
>Ever think how likely the only Lost Wave guy we trully know is Strobo?
Yes.
Well, "Snake Horde Trooper" would probably be the same except possibly head color, since the armor was shaded black and troop builders don't need a fancy name.
(Note that it's actually a callback to the early Horde Trooper design where they were a multi-species group of people instead of robots.)

>>11521936
The 88 ninja was probably intended to be Heroic (he's fighting a Snake Man, though with MotU having multiple evil factions that's not conclusive) and white was a good guess by the people who had to come up with colorways for Classics, since Ninjor was traditional black. I would guess white ninja costumes had the second-highest profile in 1988, if only due to GI Joe's Storm Shadow.

>>11521936
This guy, though, would have looked completely different. Unless a missing Mattel document turns up (as >>11521953 said), there's no way of guessing what colors they'd have chosen for his torso armor, Sssqueeze parts and cape. If I remember correctly, Danielle G was responsible for the colors and name "Plasmar", and mentioned choosing his skin color as Latino representation. That wasn't a thing at all back then. It's possible they might have made him black to make reuse of Fisto's head less obvious, but it's about as likely they'd have made him white with blond hair (Fisto himself had already used up the ginger and brunet options).

>>11521936
The Snake Man eventually named Terroar has his Trap Jaw arm, Mosquitor legs and boots shaded in such a way as to suggest intent to use those parts without any recoloring, so I guess the Classics and Origins toys got that right. But the bare scale parts would have had like a 1/5 chance of being purple (ruling out Rattlor red and Whiplash green).

>>11521936
And this guy wasn't intended to have the black torso, and most of his arms of the eventual Lord Gr'Asp, the shading would indicate some dark color like navy blue.

>>11521580
>white
one looks arab, one looks mongol and one looks black.

>>11522108
>>11522102
I think I'm missing something about how you're deciding the right colors for these, cause >>11522095 this makes sense

>>11521955
What the fuck happened, holy shit. How do you go from Snake Sorceress Teela and Evil-Lyn to this?

>>11521936
Me and a couple of Terroar anons in here did speculate over how to repurpose Rattlor's gimmick sometime ago. I suggested building an aztec death whistle into the torso which the rattlor neck would allow to function once it was extended.

>>11522226
Mondo will save the female sculpts, Mattel is fucked. Can't wait for long ponytail 200x teela.

>>11522237
>Can't wait for long ponytail 200x teela.
Yes! Lisa Ann Beley's Teela is my favorite Teela.

>>11522006
Afaik the "vintage" Oo-lar was inspired by a batch of unreleased Top Toys figures tossed together from left over parts.

I'm not that anal about it but its worth mentioning

>>11522010
Battle Cat Man is 100% worth the justification of the crossover, but in every respect ToG was the better buy across the board.

>>11522569
>>11522567
SDCC showed us a new Rob Van Dam figure with bare feet. I intend to make oolar out of him.

>>11522761
I wonder if the WWE Superstars bare shins are new or reused from some Origins figure, like Tung Lashor.

So I preordered MV Kobra Khan.
I've only ever bought one MV before, Two Bad.
Figure when he drops I'll also toss Stinkor, Clawful and Tri-klops in the order.
I'm undecided about which MV Skeletor I want to pick. Also undecided on Evil-lyn. Both the Bat-Lyn and the NE Lyn look really good, but I'm also a guy that prefers my Evil-lyns yellow, so maybe I should wait and see if the do a vintage collection Lyn.

>>11522567
Still he doesnt look anything like a Fuerza-T character.
You cant count any test shot assembly a character.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fEwct18tCSY

>>11522846
And Oolar is from the minicomic.

>>11522846
Fair enough. Like I said I wasnt all that devoted to it, but if we're nitpicking then he should count. I did take some influence from him when I made a faker equivalent to platino ages ago. .

BTW those test shots continue to be the coolest things in the world.

>>11522848
Did the name "Oo-lar" come from the minicomics or the fans?

I'll be party pooper and say that I'd only want main 8 Fuerza-T. You can only repaint He-Man so many times before it gets weird. Some of these look as if someone picked parts and colors at random.

>>11522882
Neither
It came from Neitlich's autistic need to make everything "canon", so he couldn't just release minicomic He-Man as "minicomic He-Man", so he had to make up a name to make him a separate character

https://youtu.be/INBcf60aqy0?si=BD8ooAMedZXMCr6N

>>11522886
you're welcome peasant.

>>11520113
>Skeletor definitely posts on /toy/

>>11522785
Those have been around since the first Cena figure in the Ring set. Mr T also used them early with "socks" painted on

>>11522886
It's funny that Neitlich went "There's a mini-comic where the blond Tarzan on the first page becomes the original, 1982 He-Man figure. If we release a toy of that look, he has to be a different person from Adam, the usual He-Man." But he had no problem making Battle Armor He-Man the same person as Usual He-Man and Adam.

>>11522761
Hes getting an alt costume, ive heard its uwf ring gear but im unsure of what promotion its from. Cool to see new feet, too bad we wont get a missing link figure.

>>11522831
>Both the Bat-Lyn and the NE Lyn look really good, but I'm also a guy that prefers my Evil-lyns yellow, so maybe I should wait and see if the do a vintage collection Lyn.
Evil-Lyn in bat lingerie is great. I don't think you'd regret her if you later double-dip on your preferred Yellow-Lyn. NE is more similar to a future yellow "vintage collection".

Rank Evil-Lyn's origins.

For me it's
1. Daughter of a ghost wizard living in the ruins of Zalesia.
2. Hordak's daughter who doesn't recognize him (because she was fostered by someone else, never mentioned because CGI got canceled?)
3. Learned magic from years of living with Majestra upon running away from her cannibal parents.
4. Jealous crewmate of Marlena who got mutated into a magician, like Biff Beastman getting mutated into an ape/wolfman.

>>11522010
Great combo!
Wish Is didn’t give mine away, picked up LionO, probably get battle cat man soon.
What the heck is going on with SheRa?

>>11522853
If we are nitpicking we shouldnt count him, thats just hunter pre-history He-Man.

>>11522883
They probably did that. Those are just test shots and randomly put together. You can see some Skeletor, Mer-Man, Beastman, Clawfull and Buzz-Off heads too. But someone just used He-Man heads. You can see how the face color clashes with the skin color.

>>11522883
As resident Fuerza autist I'm totally cool with that. Its all I've wanted for the last 5 years desu.

>>11522928
kek

>>11523006
dug up the aforementioned faker platino

>>11523063
I love Destructor being so much the Fuerza-T Lord of Destruction that it's Faker would use Clawful stuff the way Faker uses Skeletor stuff to his detriment as an imposter.

>>11522234
very based idea
i'm sure parents would have loved that gimmick back in the day too, LOL

>>11522956
>Hes getting an alt costume, ive heard its uwf ring gear but im unsure of what promotion its from.
It's his ECW tiger stripes unitard which is coming as the cloth gear in the same package. No Chase figure.

>>11523077
That was a big part of the idea behind Ogror. It just felt right.
>>11523079
Took me awhile to find but here it is

>>11523113
i want a prince adam where you blow from the front of his furry loincloth

with singing action!

>at this point in its own funding, Eternia had already not only funded, but hit the 8000 tier 2 mark
>Snake Lair seems to have hit a plateau already

If we don't see a big uptick before the 14th when the early bird ends, I'm gonna assume it's not gonna fund at all.

>>11523063
I know that, i saved most, if not all of your doodles

>>11523113
I dont think they would do that. Too much special mold modifications.

>>11523120
>he wants a gay joke action feature

>>11523139
>please don't fund, please don't fund
it would be so fucking awesome to finally be rid of this thing forever

>>11523180
I hope they at least learn their lesson from it failing and don't just assume it means people don't want more playsets.

>>11523172
>yes

>>11523139
I'm just in it for the Snorse.

>>11523211
But what will that lesson be?
Will their takeaway be "no more crowd funds?" "No more snakes?" "No more new stuff/Axelshit, nostalgia bait only?"
I guarantee it won't be "charge less money".

>>11523211
>don't just assume it means people don't want more playsets.
Running Fright Zone at the same time will show how much people will order a classic playset vs how much demand there is for a triple the price crowdfund original.

>>11523159
Oh thanks anon! I mostly drew it just to visualize the action feature. Looking back on it now it would have likely led to Terroar losing his tail more than anything else.

https://youtu.be/VZ5uUKLX6eY?si=g0Tyy7abg8DPIiaH

I'm not here to shill this video by any means but I do think the guy had alot of cool suggestions, and at this point, I hope Mattel takes some cues from them. Having the Ark and Nemesis land on cybertron only for the natives to build new bodies for the various bots (homaging Pretenders indirectly in the process) just hyped me up a ton. He goes onto suggest some pretty wild but really fun mash ups over the course of the vid aswell. Some I've even tossed around in the thread before, like Trapjaw + Shockwave and Triklops + Soundwave. Others include
>She-Rod (She-Ra + Hot Rod)
>MAA + Wheeljack
>Battle Cat + Slag
>Megator + Scorponok

Really just sold me on the crossover in a way mattel fumbled at.

>>11523172
I kinda like it. She has ex-wife vibes.

>>11523446
Very ex-wife vibes. Smashed in head ex-wife vibes.

It's late but really wanted to put the Fright Zone together for quick shots

>>11523477
Feels nice like the Grayskull and Snake Mountain playset. Monster is h u g e. Snaps together and apart easy

>>11523479
There's a clip at the top of the jail to make it pop out. Rest pulls apart with a simple tug. Didn't do anything with the monster yet. Will make a nice Dungeon of Doom later for Zodiac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_NJ6p8jR1A

>>11523482
lmao @ Catra in timeout

>>11523477
>>11523479
>>11523482
Great pics. Kudos for including Ripster and Hogan in the fun and games. Solid Ash custom too, I'm guessing you used ToG Casey and Hordak?

Ripster being there also makes me hope for a MOTU crossover. If for nothing else than to see the remaining baddies released.

>>11522226
>What the fuck happened,
Mattel's in-house design team doing their best. Must be the same designer that gave us Masterverse monkey He-Man.

>>11523507
>Solid Ash custom too, I'm guessing you used ToG Casey and Hordak?
ToG Casey, Mankind, and Mekaneck with the Ground Ripper

>>11522226
It's wild how different the Masterverse and Origins sculpts are in terms of attractiveness. The closest I've seen is Catra, but the Cartoon Collection is still way cuter.

>>11523540
>Mattel's in-house design team doing their best.

>shower power Catra
>is pussy(cat)
>squirts

Nice

>>11523437
I like your idea. The whistle is an effective gimmick. I was just looking at it from the angle why they would make a re-use parts wave.

>>11523706
They didnt thought that far.

>>11523728
idgaf
Pussy so wet, she leaves a puddle on the floor

>>11523733
Catra gets absolutely drenched for Mermista

>>11523733
>>11523736
Mini comics Catra is so funny.
She's like Veronica to Bow's Archie, except Adora's more the one with the money.

>>11523771
Nice work.

>>11523733
Thats more the wet cat trope. Because cats hate water.

>>11523811
If you're taking coomer shit posting seriously, to the point you have to explain actual context, you might just be cripplingly autistic

>>11523814
I thought we were fooling around. And discussing how much fetish was in it or can be read into it.

>>11523706
>>11523811
The trope is true of most cats. I would guess it was an intentional joke at the design team, though between anyone who worked at Mattel Girls division besides Justine Dantzer being a shitty person ("flanker brand") and the fandom only being passionate about MotU brand toys, we don't have an interview to prove my hypothesis.

Incidentally, tigers like water.

>>11523860
There are several cats who like water. Cats that live in areas that get flooded or are very rainy probably hunt in the water.

Anyone have the Fright Zone yet? How is it?

The entire Shezar comic (not translated) in one handy dandy macro for you guys.

I was under the impression from what other Anons said that she was an Evil Warrior, but seeing the comic I'm not 100% sure if she was working with Skeletor and he betrayed her, or if she was independent and Skeletor just showed up and tried to steal her shit. (I don't speak the language so I can't tell what the dialogue reveals)
>about half of all her panels are butt shots

Is Teela the first flop from New Eternia? Even Mer-Man turned out cool in the end so far.

>>11523937
Fun. It's never going to be as well-designed a playset as Grayskull, but it now has two sides to play with. It fits on a standard 12-inch-deep shelf and is 19 wide. You get a Zoney figure.

>>11523946
Thanks for this!
Shezar keeps changing from a beautiful woman in boots and scaly leotard to a naked scaly mer-woman and back.
So the boots and leotard are really part of her body and she's always naked?

>>11524001
I think this is supposed to be her true form and the scaly mer-woman is an "in between" form.
He-Man knocks her out, then fish, then "mer woman" then back to sexy.

>>11524011
Ah yes, you're correct.

>>11523479
What if zodiac was a zodac?
Thats an awesome jihn tenta figure btw
>if you hurt my friends then you hurt my pride

>>11524024
I can kinda see why no one talks about it.
>It's basically regular Teela, but with a pair of pants
The reindeer is cool though

>>11523946
Any idea where a guy could find the other comics?

>>11524120
I found it on a YouTube channel that uploaded basically every MotU comic ever
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsglv74itGLBo6UAEBaDrk5ke3DGATnUt&si=TCRGKku9e6qKShI-
Link is the playlist for the Brazilian comics specifically

>>11524105
Yeah, Leela is like if Prince Adam with his cloth vest was He-Man's twin brother instead of his secret identity, and got a much fancier steed than Battle Cat.
It's also obvious that the backstory was made up with no help from actual writers: "Oh, she's the Sorceress' other daughter, and she and Teela were raised in different planets to protect them (from whom? Show us a cool new enemy)"

Not sure if this goes in here or the TMNT thread, but has anyone seen the Snake Shredder figure in stores yet?

>>11524192
That time has come and gone. It's BBTS, WM.com or if you get really really lucky you might see it at a Ross. Like lottery ticket winning jackpot numbers lucky.

>>11524269
Well.

Fuck.

>>11524269

Really?

Did anyone ever see it in stores, past tense?

You know who we haven't talked about for years?

>>11524314
I still believe the drastic CGI redesigns played an intrumental part in the failure of the series. All the bad guys looked upgraded and recognizable, none of the heroes fared remotely as well.

>>11524277
>Did anyone ever see it in stores, past tense?
A few did at the start of the year and some in the clearance section, but it skipped most stores just like the Foot Soldier and Mer-Man

>>11524348
Remember that Mattel had been afraid that boys 4-11 don't like a recognizable He-Man since bafflement at disappointing sales of the 2002 figures led to a focus group where the boys told them they don't like He-Man because he doesn't wear clothes. By Wave 5, which was before the Snake Men refresh, they were recoloring figures with the original bare skin to look like tank tops and tight pants.
Revelation had the loincloths because it was nostalgia bait for viewers 40+.
We'll have to see what the 2026 movie toys look like and how they market MotU to kids to see if "we're afraid barbarians look gay to boys" is a thing of the past.

>>11524382
The whole thing is retarded to me because I never hear "boys don't like wrestlers because they don't wear enough clothes and it's gay"
And wrestling figures have been a thing during every time MotU has rebooted itself and has never gone away, and presumably boys have been eating them up for decades

So if MotU isn't popular, it's not just the physiques or the amount of clothes. Even if that was part of it, theres got to be some third or fourth criteria causing it that makes big burly half naked guys cool when it's WWE but cringe when it's He-Man

>>11524382
>>11524446
Dadanon here, I can say that my kids have all said at some point "where are He-Man pants?" or why is he in his underwear. I just said it's hot on Eternia and that was good enough. Never stopped their enjoyment of the show or toys. It didn't seem mean spirited or derisive when they asked either. More just typical 6 year old talk.
The CGI He-Man was met with more mockery for looking derpy and not looking like He-Man.

Mattel, you are welcome for this free bit of market research. you can make it up to me by not stopping PoP toys.
Please don't let the perverts scare you away from making Raz. She's in all the books and the show. Same with Glimmer although she's not as much of a meme. This is for the girl who doesn't think Bow is cool but still said I was allowed to buy him for her.

I'm not sure why I think writing this here will get their attention more than the real forum but ok

>>11524547
>I'm not sure why I think writing this here will get their attention more than the real forum but ok
Still more helpful than this month's MOTU Collectors question: How do you display your MOTU?

>>11524576
I display the rare ones atop rare South American KO playsets.
The rest are in a pile for my kids on the sunroom floor.

Kids today lack an action star like Arnie. The "muscle" look hasn't been a thing in Hollywood for awhile. Cena, Rock are your closest throwback style action stars while more are typically lean these days like the rise starting with JCVD to Statham to now someone like Tom Holland. Even in wrestling you don't see a Hogan or Ultimate Warrior from the up-n-comers as much as a leaner guy like Cody Rhodes. .

Hemsworth is more beefy, but he can't act for shit and doesn't like to work out to show it off all the time so...

>>11520431
>>11520434
Neat

>>11524277
I saw a couple a few months back. I didn't want them, but they were out in stores for sure. I don't think they last very long since I only saw like 3 or so at the two Walmarts I visited.

>>11524547
>Please don't let the perverts scare you away from making Raz. She's in all the books and the show. Same with Glimmer although she's not as much of a meme. This is for the girl who doesn't think Bow is cool but still said I was allowed to buy him for her.
Adora/She-Ra, Bow, Glimmer and Madame Razz were definitely the good guys the writers wanted to use in every episode, and Mattel won't make half of them, let alone the less-used heroes other than Frosta.

I'm probably the slowest of pokes but I only just noticed that Dragstor is gonna have flame effects that attach to his exhaust pipes.
Did anyone mention these at the time?

>>11524924
Hey, wait a second: his torso and groin are also one piece to accommodate the wheel gimmick, aren't they?

>>11524938
yes

>>11524915
They already did every Pop character that made it into Masterverse. What else is there? We should be glad we got few figures more/s

>>11524924
Huh. Guess he might be Deluxe after all. New accessories usually means deluxe.

The Snake Lair has now hit 50%, a bit less than halfway through the funding period.

>>11525053
We're not talking big ass shit like Sy-klone 's wind effects. He's not gonna deluxe for just two little flames any more than Extendar was deluxe for a couple extension pieces or Kobra Khan was for his vomit effect piece.
Maybe if he also came with like dust clouds and/or an alt head but they havent shown anything like that.

>>11525058
Got 3 more days before it’s going to slow to a crawl, it’s doing better than I expected at least.

>>11525053
>>11525066
It all depends on whether the ripcord fits inside a standard cardback

>>11525051
>They already did every Pop character that made it into Masterverse. What else is there?
Other characters who were in nearly every episode?
Something that would be even cheaper for Mattel than making a new Glimmer would be reissuing the non-articulated Classics figurines of Kowl, Loo-Kee and Imp.
And ideally they'd remake every PoP character who had a vintage toy (Double Trouble possibly excepted), maybe the same year they finally recreate vintage MotU in Origins, LOL.

>>11525058
But we're also getting less than 100 new backers a day.
Unless we see a couple of upticks it's gonna fall short at its current pace. 17 days at a hundred a day only gets us to ~4700 by the end. And that's if it DOESNT slow down again instead.
So I still say we'll know after the 14th. If the early bird doesn't cause a last minute bump, I don't see it making it to the goal at all

>>11525081
>If the early bird doesn't cause a last minute bump, I don't see it making it to the goal at all
Fine with that if it makes them reconsider how the Priest is being released. These stretch goals to lock a character behind forever are stupid

>>11525071
Why wouldn't it? It fit on a normal card in the 80s

>>11525075
Did they even make toy style PoP characters in Classics?

>>11525106
She-Ra had an alt head for the "masked" look, but that about it

>>11525106
>Did they even make toy style PoP characters in Classics?
The typical release was cartoon style. Some were more like the toys, but not having rooted hair was an issue when they did that.
Like here's Perfuma: Filmation had a powder pink dress with slippers and bare arms. The toy's pink was hot pink, she wore boots and green bracers, and came with a giant flower gun that could also plug into her back around her hair.

Or Entrapta, Tricky Golden Beauty.

Toon style would be a gray tricky beauty.

Classics used gold, but made her upper thighs bare skin above boot tops (was the toy a golden cyborg?) and changed her torso (which was previously gold or gray and never had Hordak's face on it).

>>11525075
The "/s" at the end implied I was sarcastic.

>>11523172
>>11523540
This is what turn me off from most of MV. all the Hemans have the worst face sculpt imaginable. Everyone else looks good, now this Teela. Fuck ing A mattel, these are flagshoip characters for MOTU, bring in you A-lister sculptors and not some DEI who has it out to ruin the Heman character.

>>11525240
MV is one of few MOTU lines where everyone but He-man turns out amazing.

https://youtu.be/5bYc6lvGnNM?si=gvEtt-YHfFAI6DgV

1986 "Eternia on Tour" store display for new products

>>11525160
more like sticky

>>11525240
>Everyone else looks good
>>11525257
>where everyone but He-man turns out amazing.

I still prefer a lot of the Classics headsculpts over MV, like Skeletor, Trap Jaw or Beast Man. Props to the engineers who made headswapping possible.
Shame figures like Webstor need a custom paintjob to make it work.

>>11522970
3
1
2
4

Since we're doing 2002 Skeletor....you know what would be peak?

>>11525361
Price of Deceit might be my favorite episode.

>>11525754
>Ia ia Cthulhu ftagn!

>>11525757
>Skeletor: oh God, wtf is that?
>Trap Jaw: I knew this was a bad idea
>Whiplash: woop woopwoop woopwoopwoop

>>11525760
>Whiplash: please, Randor, you have to help us!
>MAA: back monster!

>>11525763
>BLAM!

>>11525768
>MAA: ...is he alive?
>Randor: he is...barely

>>11525770
>How about now?

>>11525773
>Later, back at Snake Mountain
>Whiplash: boss, I brought help!

>>11525775
>Skeletor: you scale tailed boob! The monster already left for Grayskull! You'd know that if you hadnt run off like a wimp
>MAA: well, this was a waste of time

>>11525779
>Later still, at Grayskull
>I YAM SH'GOWA, uWu~! FEAW ME!
>He-Man: that's the monster? Seriously?
>Sorceress: it's ok, He-Man...I'm enjoying this

>>11525785
>BLAM!
>Sh'Gowa: uguuu...

>>11525789
>Not on my watch

>>11525793
Orko: gee, Man-at-Arms, that sure was a swell adventure
>MAA: yes, Orko, but now I'd like to tell you all about gun safety....I was safe from Whiplash because I had a gun; Whiplash didn't have a gun so he wasn't safe from me. Always pack heat. Until next time

>>11525793
>>11525799
You know, he does look a bit like Charles Bronson

Mattel has filed a trademark for "Legends of the Universe" under both toys/action figures and entertainment/movies/TV shows

Think this could be the new cartoon imprint they've hinted at?

Why couldn't Mattel and Hasbro's first MOTU collab be between series that make sense? Like Power Rangers? I mean MOTU and PR are almost the same exact thing just MOTU has several freaks as good guys, unless you count CGI Netflix one guy with a transformation sequence, and is set in fantasy/techno land.

Not to mention the Masters in colorful stylized spandex would look better than them cosplaying as robots and a Skeletor/Lord Zedd fusion wouldn't look nearly as stupid as the Megatron one.

>>11526243
Skeletron and BBAA look cool atleast. It's the increased price that's souring me. If I buy ome at full price it'll be Skeletron.

>>11526227
I hope it turns out better than Rev/Revolution

>>11526249
Keep Kevin Smith and Netflix away from it, and it should at least be better.
I never got around to watching Revolution because of how much Revelation pissed me off, Teela bait and switch aside, it got so many things wrong about the characters, like completely forgetting Orko's backstory. It really seemed like none of the writers had ever actually watched the original series.

>>11526266
>Teela bait and switch aside, it got so many things wrong about the characters, like completely forgetting Orko's backstory. It really seemed like none of the writers had ever actually watched the original series.
Yeah, possibly not. We know producer Ted Biaseli(sp?) was a huge fan of the vintage toys, mini-comics and Filmation, but it's not clear that anyone in the writers room even watched Filmation, and the Powerhouse artists were given free reign to visually redesign everyone after the timeskip in ways that didn't fit the pre-existing aesthetic "language" of Eternia.

>>11526283
>free reign to visually redesign everyone after the timeskip in ways that didn't fit the pre-existing aesthetic "language" of Eternia
Honestly if I didn't already know what this was from and you told me that this was from a third Avatar The Last Airbender series set in the future or something, I'd believe it.

You think this guy will get an Origins figure through Mattel Creations? He could use Leatherhead's loincloth, tail and hands along with the King Hiss arms and legs above the boot cut, ToG bat wings, He-Ro's greaves and Hordak's feet. Could get away with just a new head and breastplate, though getting the unique shield and flaming sword would be ideal.

I took this group photo of Origins characters who don't belong to a faction, before Sharella was released. Now He-Ro doesn't really belong, and when Mattel releases Eldor, their group will be as large as the Great Rebellion. Ouch.

At this point, I'm expecting Mattel to troll us by releasing 200X Two Bad next year and the reverse repaint in 2027, but not vintage Two Bad.

Can Mattel chill out with these fucking things?

>>11526369
I still say Monger should belong to the Evil Warriors
All the box art teases before he came out positioned him with Skeletor and his minions, and the only thing that spoiled it was that dog shit minicomic

>>11526369
Is that the spaceman from the new Castle Grayskull? You already have it?

>>11526423
That's the original spaceman from the Secrets of Grayskull set from like 4 years ago

Snake Lair is now at 54% and 3246 backers, which puts it above the current star wars gunship haslab (3209 of required 8000 backers).

>>11526416
>All the box art teases before he came out positioned him with Skeletor and his minions, and the only thing that spoiled it was that dog shit minicomic
Refresh my memory?
I know he was in the Wind Raider art...

>>11526423
It's the Secrets of Grayskull one, like >>11526434 said.

>>11526465
>more people want more Snake shit than the most iconic vehicle from the Star Wars prequels
I'm a Snakefag, and even I think that is insane. Is it a sign of how badly Star Wars has dropped off in the last few years, or a sign that MOTU fans will buy anything? I would put it down to the quality of the Gunship Haslab, but I think both crowdfunds are equal in terms of being high cost and low value for money.

OK, here's Frog Monger on the Battlefield Warriors box, positioned with a Panthor-mounted Skeletor and fellow Evil Warriors Faker and Dupli-Cat, Two Bad and that purple cyclops.

$4.75 on BBTS today. I doubt he'll be out of stock today anyway.

>>11526382
same energy

>>11526506
Im surprised purple cyclops still hasnt manifested. Seems like such an easy sell.

>>11526488
I think it says more to the absolute state of Star Wars.
>I think both crowdfunds are equal in terms of being high cost and low value for money.
Snake Lair is definitely a better value, but still dramatically overpriced.

>>11526488
>I would put it down to the quality of the Gunship Haslab
It's a vehicle 20% bigger than the various releases that have been on the market since Episode II. There's like 7 versions out there to buy including Wm and TRU exclusive styles which were $50 to $75 at the time of last run. No one asked for this vehicle short of it being in 6" Black Series scale. They'll do 6" scale HasLabs for GI Joe (which is also struggling) but not SW.

>>11526524
I still think Mattel dropped the ball by not reversing the reds and blues on this

Yes, I know that's not what the minicomic Stratos looked like, but 1) he doesn't have the collar so he's inaccurate already, and 2) it'd given people who got the regular Stratos an incentive to buy this one to swipe the accessories and turn the regular Stratos into the variant version

>>11526555
Mattel doesn't make a lot of shit that'd be easy for them
I don't think I even need to say it, but Plasmar, Strobo, Goat Man, Toxoid, the evil Extendar, the evil cosmic enforcer from the Wind Raider box, Garn, Lodar, King Grayskulls new hot blackwife, the sketchbook yeti, the sketchbook witch, all of those would be just as easy (some maybe even easier) than cyclops, and Mattel sits on their hands.

>>11526555
>Im surprised purple cyclops still hasnt manifested. Seems like such an easy sell.
They even used it as the main enemy in Wun-Dar's mini-comic

>purple cyclops' character quirk in the Evil Warriors is long-winded monologues about everything that's happened in the past 120+ years.

>>11526604
This, though.

>>11526665
>long-winded monologues about everything that's happened in the past 120+ years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWWQphJ-Sj8

>>11526506
Two Bad, Faker, Dupli-Cat, Frog Monger and purple cyclops sound like the best Evil Warriors team since Scare Glow, Ninjor and Blast-Attak.

Speaking of old card art, remember how Marlena got an art tease back in 2020 and we're still waiting in the year of our Zoar 2025?

I bought the Mondo Teela, and it will be my first Mondo figure. It is sogood looking.
I think I may preorder the She-Ra one too.
It said tariffs will affect prices. What country are Mondo figures made in? Trying to understand how high the price increase will be.

>>11526227
I do hope Mattel is planning more media than just the movie next year to attract today's kids. Also curious to what all MotU toys will be at retail next summer through Christmas. 2002 Cartoon Collection is going to stick out like a sore thumb if everything else is up-to-date.

>>11526768
Mondo’s been including a separate tariff fee with their new releases, usually $20-30. And their prices have been inching up there too unfortunately, I’d look at whatever the most recent figures on the site were for an idea of what it’ll cost.

>>11526393
Just a thought, but you know how Modulok got sold at online retailers, and they stuck a She-Ra 40th sticker on him and listed him as "Cartoon Collection" on Amazon even though he obviously wasn't...
Think the same could happen to Two-Bad? Sell vintage Two Bad on a regular card to Amazon by just telling them "naw, bro, it's totally 200x. See? He was in the cartoon"

>>11526850
Man, that's a good idea.

>>11525799
KINO

>>11526227
Cartoon based on the new movie I'd guess.

Do you like the line of Champions concept introduced in Classics?

>>11527376
Not really, no. Sucks that Mattel is just running with it.

>>11527376
>Do you like the line of Champions concept introduced in Classics?
Nope, fuck Scott and fuck King Grayskull they both suck. Wundar's cool and the concept art He-Man figures were a nice addition to the line. They didn't require a painful and poorly written retcon to justify their production.

I don't know if this constitutes blasphemy in the MOTU fan sphere, but lately I've been feeling like the Filmation cartoon has actually been detrimental to the overall story of He-Man, namely the addition of Cringer and Prince Adam as the "true" identity of He-Man. To me it feels like the Filmation elements took MOTU an enhanced Conan-alike and made He-Man into another Superman/superhero knock off, with a secret identity and whacky sidekicks. There's elements of that secret identity schtick that work for superheros but doesn't really make sense for He-Man. If villains found out that Superman, or Spider-Man were Clark Kent/Peter Parker, then they would go after their friends and family, so a secret identity makes sense to keep their loved ones safe, but everyone He-Man is close to is highly skilled warrior capable of holding their own without issue (story requirements notwithstanding), or they're royalty with Randor and Marlena, who are already targets due to their titles.
Don't get me wrong, I do really like the Filmation cartoon, and I like what I've seen of 200X, this isn't some "I want the silly 80s cartoon for kids to be super serious!" thing I like the cartoon for what it is, I just feel like that now being the definitive version of MOTU is kinda limiting. I've been reading the mini comic collection and as the stories have start incorporating elements of the cartoon it just feels like the story has gone from adventures during the "days of high adventure" to something less grand. I'd love to hear the thoughts of other anons, and if this isn't really suitable for this board I can make this a thread over on /co/.

>>11527701
I don't think you're alone in that regard when even Mattel has been ditching the "secret identity" schtick in recent years
>Revelation was about everyone finding out
>CGI never had secret identities in the first place
>Even the DC crossover comics with Thundercats and Injustice were about everyone finding out

I have this strong suspicion that it won't be a secret in the live action movie either

>>11527701
For as much as I love 200X and Filmation everything you've noted is exactly why I've wanted to see an adaption of He-man's minicomic origins for years. I honestly believe that's why so many normies scoff at the character. It's not bad tobe goofy but it is irksome knowing MOTU will always be seen as "that old babyshow?" in the wider world.

>>11527701
It was Paul Kupperberg at DC Comics who turned He-Man into another Superman.
DC Comics Presents #47, "From Eternia With Death!": July 1982 cover date.
The Halperin bible sent from Mattel to Filmation: December 1982.
Followed by the cartoon premiere in September, 1983.

>>11519834 (OP)
Is that MOTU discord still going? I dont wanna join it but i notice the link for it isnt on the OP post for the MOTU general anymore

>>11527701
>There's elements of that secret identity schtick that work for superheros but doesn't really make sense for He-Man. If villains found out that Superman, or Spider-Man were Clark Kent/Peter Parker, then they would go after their friends and family, so a secret identity makes sense to keep their loved ones safe, but everyone He-Man is close to is highly skilled warrior capable of holding their own without issue (story requirements notwithstanding), or they're royalty with Randor and Marlena, who are already targets due to their titles.

And yes, making He-Man a superhero with all the tropes didn't really work.
Superman had Lois Lane to protect from Action Comics #1. She doesn't respect Clark Kent, and he can't fix his love life by telling her because she'd be a constant target as a normal woman. Almost every Silver Age DC and Marvel superheroes found this romantic soap opera subplot useful to copy.
With He-Man, his father and Teela having no respect for his secret identity just looks like the Sorceress swore him to secrecy to psychologically abuse him, because they're already the first obstacle in Skeletor's path and an elite warrior picked to guard him. Just let the poor man be an unarmored D&D Paladin with his Holy Avenger sword.

>>11527701
Agreed, while I don't dislike the Filmation cartoon, I do wish modern adaptations took more liberties with the story and/or inspiration from the early minicomics and other production materials to distance themselves from the old series and actually do something a little different

>>11527769
One other element I don't get is He-Man gets he power from Greyskull, Skeletor wants to get into Greyskull, by all appearances Greyskull IS a functioning castle just in a state of disrepair and mess. Why doesn't He-Man just move into the castle? He's constantly off somewhere else and has to rush to get to Greyskull. I know it's good for excitement, and of course he wouldn't be there 24/7, but would it not make sense to let the place you're tasked with defending also be your power base?

>>11527756
I think that's being just a tad pedantic
Regardless of who did it first, Filmation is what popularized it and made it the de facto "true" canon.

Just for a thought experiment, pretend for one second that DC still did Prince Adam as He-Man and the minicomics still adapted it after the first year, but that Filmation did NOT use Adam and treated He-Man like Blackstar. Do you think Prince Adam as the secret identity would be as rigidly set in stone as the default in the modern day? Because I don't think it would because like it or hate it, the original cartoon is what's treated as the core of MotU mythology

>>11527775
Right. Whenever Skeletor or Hordak get into Grayskull, the writer knows he'll sit on the throne with his elites around him. Why doesn't He-Man think to do the same?

>>11527701
And since you mentioned Conan, here's what Skeletor was like as created by Robert E. Howard:

Kull tore the veil away with one motion and recoiled with a gasp. Delcardes screamed and her knees gave way; the councillors pressed backward, faces white and the guard released their grasp and shrank horror-struck away.
The face of the man was a bare white skull, in whose eye sockets flamed livid fire!
“Thulsa Doom!”
“Aye, I guessed as much!” exclaimed Ka-nu.
“Aye, Thulsa Doom, fools!” the voice echoed cavernously and hollowly. “The greatest of all wizards and your eternal foe, Kull of Atlantis. You have won this tilt but, beware, there shall be others.”
(The Cat and the Skull/Delcardes' Cat)

>>11527777
>Regardless of who did it first, Filmation is what popularized it and made it the de facto "true" canon.
>Just for a thought experiment, pretend for one second that DC still did Prince Adam as He-Man and the minicomics still adapted it after the first year, but that Filmation did NOT use Adam and treated He-Man like Blackstar. Do you think Prince Adam as the secret identity would be as rigidly set in stone as the default in the modern day?
Quads don't lie. I agree: Filmation popularized MotU so much that if they'd done it that way, it would have stuck.

Any story ideas for what the Evil Warriors would do without Skeletor if he and the Snake Men were housemates in Snake Mountain?

>>11527823
See "Council of Evil Part 1"
That's exactly what I expect would happen to them all lmao

>>11527701
>>11527756
There are a lot of comics, books and mini-comics where Adam may not be officially removed from the story but he appears so little, he might as well be gone. Sometimes there isn't enough pages for sub-plois and all He-Man pals are Adam pals anyway so you at best you have him transform at start and rest of the story is just He-Man. For example in Origins, we haven't seen prince Adam since 6th Wave with Webstor.

Funny thing that one logical reason for why Adam needs to protect his secret is that he could be ambushed as Adam but...transformation has no limit. He might as well stay He-Man forever.

So the only explanation would be if bad guys knowing that He-Man is regular dude transformed by magic sword somehow would be a bad thing. But I mean, they're already after his power source, Castle Grayskull so...


Funny thing is that a lot of superheroes start by relying on superhero clishes and then evolve past them. Secret identities being classics example. When was last time you saw Wonder Woman with secret identity? Did you know that Beast, Ghost Rider, Thor and Hulk all used to have double lives?

>>11521936
>Strobo
Help me take the ring into Domor!

>>11526578
Star Wars fan here. I agree. I'd rather have the Snake Lair. However, the pricing sucks so I'm buying neither.

>>11527701
>the Filmation cartoon has actually been detrimental to the overall story of He-Man
>it just feels like the story has gone from adventures during the "days of high adventure" to something less grand.
Yes. I grew up in the 80s. The biggest gripe I had with the cartoon was Orko sucked hard (and Lou Scheimer did so many variations of him in so many other cartoons, and they ALL sucked!), but even worse, they were SO cheap they had only 4 or so voice actors doing every goddamn voice, and He-Man's actor had such poor range everyone he voiced outside of He-Man/Adam sounded like a dumbass doing a goofy voice.

Also as a kid, the mini-comics were pretty fucking metal. But the cartoon was disappointingly G-rated. You have everyone with axes and swords and its all bloodless with zero carnage.

>>11528075
i really really loved his he-man voice though
i wasnt particularly a fan of the cartoon in a "this is canon way"
but the heman and skeletor voices were just goated

i always preferred the motu universe to be character centric with weirdos doing whatever and everything else being in sort of flux

mich like how mel birnkrant intentionally did not give his outerspacemen line bios

>>11528075
>Also as a kid, the mini-comics were pretty fucking metal. But the cartoon was disappointingly G-rated. You have everyone with axes and swords and its all bloodless with zero carnage.

Also, consider the Golden Books...

>>11528138
He-Man would never hold his sword to a throat in the cartoon

>>11528148
Also, tentacles

>>11528142
Is this Jitsu's only Golden Book?
Poor guy's fictional appearances might just be this, "Clash of Arms", his Filmation episode as "Chopper" and a page in one of Scotty's mini-comics.

>>11528195
He was also in the hardcover books Demons of the Deep and Skeletor's Flower of Power

>>11528075
As I've said before, I was born in 82, probably first saw the Filmation cartoons at Christmas 85 (but can't be sure I did see the Christmas Special as a rerun instead), and got my first MotU figures on or around my 4th birthday. I liked both the He-Man and She-Ra cartoons insofar as they stuck in my memory, but they were soon gone from syndication and it was always the mini-comics informing my play when I'd pull the boxes of MotU toys out in 92 or whatever. Those and one Golden Book... Dragon's Egg? The one with Goat Man and an Earl Norwm painted cover with dragons.

>>11528134
Talk about how shit the SIDE voices are
>b.b.but i really really loved his he-man voice though
Every time.

>>11528208
"Secret of the Dragons Egg" was the title of that book

>>11528211
>Webstor's voice
>Roboto's voice
>Spikor's voice
>Buzz-Off 's voice

Snake Lair has cleared 3800 backers. The "end of early bird" spike seems to have hit

>>11527791
>Blackstar + Bravestarr origins never

>>11528278
>Blackstar + Bravestarr origins never
Despite the fact that we have a Filmation document where He-Man was going to be in Bravestarr's origin (but not Rio Blast).

Blackstar would also be super easy to add in. Just say the planet John Blackstar got stranded on was Eternia, the Power Sword he and Overlord fought over was the halves of THAT Power Sword, and Marlena's mission was to find him.

>>11528250
And now it's 4000

He-man Prime (obvious)
but a much better surprise comes in the form of
scare glow x Starscream.

this is kino

>>11528774
>scare glow x Starscream.
wtf
that is kino

>>11528774
Evil Ghost of Starscream

>>11528774
>>11528782
Clever

>>11528774
I want scarescream

>>11528774
But Scareglow's loyalty is unwavering!

>>11528825
This is why I was rooting for Evil-Lyn Starscream.
Oops, image limit. Someone make a new thread?

>>11528774
Still pissed they went with Green over Black body armor

>>11528774
Nice tits, Prime-Man.

>>11528774
>Prime Armor He-man took cues from Thunder Punch
>Scarescream on the way

For a crossover nobody wanted I'm really warming up to alot of these.
>>11528926
You and me both man. I guess it's time for me to start looking into Rit Dye tutorials

>>11528720
They're going to make it. I've got no Snorse in this race, but every single instance of a fundraiser playset we've had upto this point has made the cut. This will be no different.

>>11528774
>MAA isn't Wheeljack.
>Most dangerous soldier isn't Shockwave.
Yeah no I'm out. You guys enjoy tho.

Current count as of this minute is 4530.
I think Snake Lair is gonna make it

Guys I can't post because image limit, but it was posted over on tfw2005 forums that Axel is sketching concept art Octavia for upcoming box art

>>11529349

New thread

Since no one else made a new thread, I did:

>>11529361

>>11529362
>Since no one else made a new thread
>New thread was linked to in post right above yours a half hour ago

>>11529286
>Current count as of this minute is 4530.
>I think Snake Lair is gonna make it
Im confident the lair will make it but the priest is gonna get left behind. Shame, as far as the snakemen go. He is absolutely one of my favorites.