Thread 11532868

Originally slated as a Target exclusive, the new o-ring version of the Python Patrol Cobra Commander is now a Super7 "website exclusive", meaning no retailer wants it. Super7 isn't likely to survive into next year.

These figures suck anyway, they pale in comparison to the vintage O-rings.

Super7 can't make a good product to save their life. Even the Ultimates line is on perpetual clearance for about 60% off, and no one buys them. Only time I've seen them actually fly out of stock was when EE had some of them on sale for $10 each.

>>11532868 (OP)
who were the retards that asked for return of o-nigr figures?

The action figure tech was advancing at high peace with 25th ann and PoC lines and now that shit is buried forever.

I hope all o-nigrs die, glad the line is bombing.

i like these o-rings
what i don't like is fucking hideous recolor exclusives like python patrol

>>11533285
>who were the retards that asked for return of o-nigr figures?
*raises hand.
I like that scale and format. It allows for a bigger variety of vehicles and figures. The only thing that bugs me about the Super7 line is the unpainted shoulder rivets.

>>11532868 (OP)
I like these, and would have bought a few if they were normally priced. These fat faggots are $22 for a toy that should be $10.

>>11533414
I don't think you understand the question.

The other lines he talks about also offers a bigger variety of vehicles and figures, because they're 1:18 scale.

o-ring is just a way of engineering toys, but also used to describe vintage style sculpting (less detail, shorter). So outmodded and actually less compatible with modern 1:18 lines, since it's not a true 1:18 scale. The vehicles are too small to allow modern 1:18 figures to fit inside.

So there's a reason why o-ring is sorta kinda hated (actively unwanted?) by most 1:18 fans, not just because it's outdated and ugly, but because it's also incompatible with most 1:18 toylines created made after 2006.

So shit like the Haslab Skystriker got a lot of hate, because it wouldn't fit anything new. And it's probably why its sales were so low compared to everything else and almost didn't get funded, if not for the last minute Cobra surge.

>>11533285
>who were the retards that asked for return of o-nigr figures?
Oh Lord it's the resident fucking TROLL again. Lots of people ask for lots of things that you're not into, you angry little shit. Why must you always act like such a fucking shit stain?

>>11533547
It's not meant to fit anything new. It's meant to pander to Gen-X'ers who want the feel and sense of vintage in new toys. And right now they're the alpha buyers due to their ages and having spent decades building up their income. They're the ones dropping fortunes to bid up the prices of all things vintage for the rest of us to pay.

And I would have really liked that CC reissue. Original ones are bullshit-priced where $50 will get you a yellowed and damaged junk-grade one. The retro 2-pack has stupid colors on it to make it look more "cartoon," and Hasbro's retarded for making an all-new mold for a lost figure only to pull this shit of making it limited exclusive. And it sure as shit doesn't help that Super7 is only interested in "cartoon colors" as well. That's why the fucking retards refuse to give us a black BAT, Baroness, and Snake Eyes 2.

>>11534264
Maybe their license stipulates what colors they can or can't use.

>>11532868 (OP)
>tries to bring back o-rings to retail
>completely ignores what makes that possible by making each sculpt unique, overly painted and charging marvel legends prices for a 3 inch figure with 1 accessory
>can't figure out why no one wants to buy them
>b&m store cancel orders
>whines about tarriffs
no wonder they got a new CEO

>>11534313
That's a pretty big leash that limits what they can do to appease fans if it's true

>>11533713
He missed his daily hrt.

>>11534264
>It's not meant to fit anything new.
No shit?
Like i said, that's entirely the reason why so many people hated it. it's probably why it barely got funded and is the lowest backed project.

If they made a non-nostalgiafag 1:18 Skystriker, it would have fit both 1:18 and o-ring figures.

And you're completely wrong about those nostalgiafags. It's why o-ring lines aren't popular and why prices for vintage joes have gone down. Actual 1:18 lines remain relatively popular and why shit like pic gets funded all the time.

I'm Gen X, btw. I stopped adding o-ring figures to my 500+ vtinage Joe collection back when Hasbro updated the engineering for their Joes with the 25th line and haven't looked back. I probably own 1000 modern 1:18 figures, across dozens of 1:18 toylines and am currently waiting on this 1:18 compatible mecha (they're giants in 1/72 scale but that makes the pilot ~4" like a 1:18 human) like pic.

>>11534571
>If they made a non-nostalgiafag 1:18 Skystriker, it would have fit both 1:18 and o-ring figures.
>Non-nostalgiafag
>1:18
Pick one.

>>11532868 (OP)
Super 7 isn't going anywhere. Cry.
>>11533285
Cry faggot.

>>11534571
>If they made a non-nostalgiafag 1:18 Skystriker
They did you fucktard

>>11534758
Super7 is dead before the end of the year. Only a fool would think otherwise.

>>11534577
1/18 are the 3.75 scale not your 4in scale creep shit.

>>11534758
>Super 7 isn't going anywhere. Cry.
That's why they forced their own founder out as CEO, huh? Flim Flam Flynn is just a powerless figurehead now. Cry yourself, I bet Flynn would hold you tight.

>>11534791
>>11534820
cope and seethe

>>11534829
Stay mad

>>11534829
>cope and seethe
Okay son. My, what a big retort from you! Meanwhile, if Super7 continues to exist or fades away forever, my life continues just fine either way. Shame you don't get out more, since all you can do is parrot what you've read elsewhere. Sad little shit stain.

>>11534761
For Haslab.
Collector quality Skystriker vs some budget kids toy.... which was quite nice despite being budget... which is another reason why people complained about Haslab wasting time making it, because the older versions were already so good.

>>11534865
This version is single seat which is bullshit since one hisstank member easily modded one to be 2-seated; not this one specifically but the first normal color version which is the same mold.

>>11532868 (OP)
If they were 5 bucks and the vehicles $15-xxx, they'd be sweet, but hasblo has gotta be hasblo

>>11534932
That's what the fucktarded x-geners envisioned in their tiny little heads I suppose when they asked for the return of these outdated and stupid figures. But guess what? That is never going to happen and they failed and fucked us from having better engineered figures.
I bet these fucking morons don't play with their toys (because o-nigr figures are terrible at holding guns and dynamic poses) they just want to pretend they are at k-mart in the 1980's looking at endless rows of boxed toys.

o ring is based

>>11535188
>I bet these fucking morons don't play with their toys
Most adults don't, bro.

>>11532868 (OP)
When i saw your thread a few days back i managed to get python patrol CC off of super7. I got him today and hes pretty cool. Thanks for the heads up OP

>>11536820
Garbage

>>11536820
cool

>>11536820
OP here. Good for you bro.

>>11536875
Rude

>>11536906
This is so hideous and yet I can’t hate it, it looks like something the vintage line would have done.

>>11536906
>crooked gun accessory
Mine broke when I took it out of the package, looks like yours might have as well.

>>11536914
I onky got skibidi because i needed cash back at target today and he was a few bucks. Coba commander himself is peak
>>11536966
I just noticed fug i think youre right

They were based on Sunbow model sheets, not vintage toys, so they don't blend into a vintage collection. Tomax & Xamot especially. Sunbow humans tend to sometimes look awful, too.

>>11534820
a new ceo cant save super 7, its a sinking ship

>>11539222
>Make vanity crap no one else wanted to buy
>Charge $20 more than Neca, use the "small company" excuse
>Niche nostalgia brand focus over major IPs

Gee I wonder why...

>>11539312
>>Niche nostalgia brand focus over major IPs
But thats a good thing tho. Fuck super7 and all that, but more companies should be doing that instead of making the same characters from the same exhausted franchises over and over again

>>11539320
>but more companies should be doing that
Do what?

>>11539358
Making more niche properties into toys rather then just shitting out more of the same generic overdone nostalgia brand like TMNT or transformers

>>11538746
People want them to blend in to a vintage collection. Deliberately making the right characters but in the wrong colors to put off the customers is a bit stupid.

>>11539222
>a new ceo cant save super 7, its a sinking ship
Never said it would. Buuuuttttt.......
Flynn has said before that their Blind Box assortments of ReActions are VERY profitable for them. They've been pumping them out relentlessly since they lost their Disney license and have been apparently hurting BAD financially.

If I had to guess, based on observations, they are trying to limp along, raise more money to offset so many losses, and THEN reorganize and see where they want to go from there. MAYBE this means less output per year, maybe more repaints than new sculpts, who knows?

We've already seen they have upcoming O-Rings for Universal Monsters and Back To The Future. They've dropped prices and accessories to put their "Ultimates" under a new branding at Target for $35. Target & WalMart keep buying their Blind Box assortments, but will it be enough to keep them afloat? Will they get more outside funding IF investors are more comfortable with the new CEO?

My New Cobra Commander's gun broke because they went with inferior plastic on an accessory. Will these kinds of decisions become more well known and have more people abandon the company? You can't say shit in so many places such as plebbit or the "fan" facebook page because they're compromised and they scrub the negative comments as much as possible.

Either way, I've got my popcorn.

>>11539432
>You can't say shit in so many places such as plebbit or the "fan" facebook page because they're compromised and they scrub the negative comments as much as possible.
I fucking hate when forums and online discussion areas do this. Its unironically shill behavior and its scummy as dirt. Fuck reddit especially for that crap

>>11539432
I really dont understand the appeal of blind boxes. why would someone want to buy something where they have no idea what they're getting? very weird. it sounds like people just want new plastic (thing) and dont care what it is

>>>11539603 I really dont understand the appeal of blind boxes.
Because they might get the one they want!
... i've seen people skip over a "used" still wrapped in its sealed baggy figure to take a chance with the blind box to get the same figure.

Gambling is "fun"
It's why rich people gamble.

Of course, sales also increase, because people keep buying until they actually get the figure they want. So sales increase 2-3x and retailers arent stuck with "shelf warmers" because the last blindbox that has a black crippled woman inside it might actually contain Spiderman.

The US used to release blind box and gashopon figurines from Japan in blistered packaging in the 90s and 00s, and almost none of those lines sold well. But they had way more success when they either just imported them as is or redid the boxes with English text.

>>11539320
>>11539386
>making things all of 20 people will buy is a good idea, actually!

>>11539636
Legally it's not "gambling" as you''re guaranteed to get something of a certain base value. Loot boxes in games fell under similar legal scrutiny.

>>11539716
Do McFarlane chases operate similarly where the law does not care if you do not get what you ordered, as long as its of a "certain base value"? Why are businesses not just sending people stuff they dont order instead all the time just because it's legal?

>>11539712
Enjoy your infinite same three or four 80s nostalgia brand sloppa, anon. God forbid people want something other then he-man figures ad infinitum forever and god forbid even more that anyone wants nostalgia toys based on another decade past the 1980s

>>11540005
The current toy aisle is dominated by 80s brands, and has been for 10+ years now. It's the by-product of (((CURRENT GENERATION))) failing to come up with anything better. It's like all the creativity was hoarded by people who then turned on the retard-rays to ensure later generations were too stupid to come up with anything new that's equally as good.

I don't get the He-Man thing though. At this point it's "Malibu Stacy's new hat" with buying new versions of the same shit over and over again. I figured that it would be the first nostalgia-brand to burn out, but hey they proved me wrong. The He-Man fan base wants 1000 versions of every character just like the Final Fantasy VII fan base does.

>>11540227
Id argue theres still alot from the 2000s and 1990s for properties to mine for nostalgia bux, but yes most anything from the 2010s was either shit or even if it started out good it turned into shit later one like adventure time or game of thrones even though i never watched the later and only heard about its decline from other people

>>11540237
They tried 90s nostalgia with Power Rangers. Didn't work. Hasbro probably took an overall loss trying it, too.

The only 90s/00s properties I want are Final Fantasy 8 through 10 figures. There's still a lot that was never done, and a lot of stuff that new versions of are very much demanded. But Squeenix is happy with making new versions of FF7 as well as whatever current game.

>>11540245
>They tried 90s nostalgia with Power Rangers. Didn't work.
Giving up on trying to monetize an entire decade because one attempt at trying to sell toys from a franchise thought to be really lame by alot of normfalfags is peak retardation
>The only 90s/00s properties I want are Final Fantasy 8 through 10 figures.
For 90s i really want small soldiers action figures done right. Also for 2000s nostalgia i want more action figures and pulshes from cartoons around that time as well as bionicle to come back again

>>11540227
He-man fans are for-lifers. That brand is dominated by people who are willing to pay hundreds for even outdated figures on ebay. It had a huge impact on kids in the early 80s because it was one of the first and best toy tie in brainwashing campaigns. You can see as time went on kids born later and later got more cynical and jaded and the conditioning didn't work as well. So Power Rangers in the early 90s couldn't sustain a collector line on the level of MOTU, GI Joe or Transformers.

>>11540257
>Giving up on trying to monetize an entire decade because one attempt at trying to sell toys from a franchise thought to be really lame by alot of normfalfags is peak retardation

The big stuff from the 90s are Pokemon (which never went way), Star Wars, X-Men, Beast Wars, Power Rangers, Playmates Star Trek, Batman, and stuff from the 80s that carried into the early 90s like GI Joe and Ninja Turtles. There isn't a lot beyond that to nostalgia-fag into the present that already isn't here.

>>11540600
>because it was one of the first and best toy tie in brainwashing campaigns.
It was the first. Mattel sued the FCC so they could make half-hour infomercials to sell toys to kids with, and over 4 decades later that mind-fucking is still there. And I don't get it. The figures stand weird. No one stands with their feet pointed sideways. They have gorilla proportions of arms and legs at same length, and overall they just look weirdly-proportioned. The vehicle designs are one giant "what the fuck were they on?"

>So Power Rangers in the early 90s couldn't sustain a collector line on the level of MOTU, GI Joe or Transformers.
It did in the 90s but when Hasbro gambled on it and bought the license, it was a flop even with nostalgiafags.

>>11540600
>You can see as time went on kids born later and later got more cynical and jaded
I don't think this is what made shit like Power Rangers less likely to hold an audience. I think it's the fact that later generations to be more mentally ill. ADD. narcissism. overly sensitive.
So if a series doesn't conform just exactly right, they're more likely to reject it and just move on. Just look at all the people looking back at movies from the 90s/80s/70s/60s and thinking they're ICK.

If people were more cynical and jaded, shit like MLP or FnAF wouldn't have caught on.
So a lot of Generation Y doesn't like what they grew up with, hence little to no success in nostalgia relaunches. It's just disposeable media/products to them now.

btw, i grew up with heman and its shit. tmnt and gi joe actually held up.

>>11540917
>tfw I grew up with He-man, TMNT and GI Joe and the only one I still like is He-man.

TMNT is too silly due to being set on Earth with cool mutated giant ninja turtles yelling cowabunga and eating pizza. It's clearly a kids property to the core. While He-man's original cartoon is generally played silly, the property doesn't have to be silly by its premise alone and it's not on Earth so far more can be justified with magic involved. GI Joe, on the other hand, is predicated on believing the US isn't a demonic entity run by the most evil sociopaths on the planet, so I can't get invested in such a property. That one REALLY doesn't hold up as an adult.

I think it's more to do with kids since late 90s being more into video games than plastic toys, and anime spoiling them for cartoons.

>>11540946
Correct. Action figure franchises end with 80s and early to mid 90s kids. This industry ends with us.

>>11540946
>think it's more to do with kids since late 90s being more into video games than plastic toys
Thats why theyre such mouth breating retards now and getting dumber and dumber

>>11540917
So why DO you think the 90s kids who grew up with power rangers arent as nostalgic for it

For me, G.I.Joe is really the only one of these properties that has held up. Largely carried by the comic book, which I continued to read for years after I stopped caring about the toys. Very unlike the cartoon, which I found later to be just bewildering fever dream-like nonsense (we didn't get the cartoon in my country and I can now sort of see why) I was recently surprised to find out that UK had their own home-grown Action Force comic (another thing we didn't get in the rest of Europe), and doubly surprised that it's actually good. I used to think Larry Hama was the only writer in this entire scene who didn't totally phone in his job.

super7, neca and macfarlane, my 3 "never buy from" lines. found their fake o-ring cobra commander at ROSS for $3 lol fuck them

>>11540981
As someone who watched MMPR as it aired and had the 90s toys then, but don't buy any merch or figures for it now and stopped watching the show roughly around the time the rangers got turned into kids and the machine empire appeared, I think a big factor was the whiplash of removing pretty much the entire PR cast and then removing Zedd and Rita as well. It gave me no reason to continue or care. They came back later apparently but I didn't know that would happen. Going out on such a low note kind of destroyed any care I had for the franchise.

Also a factor my slightly later (late 90s) exposure to anime with long non-episodic plots and lack of "filler" or "plot unimportant" episodes. The formula of Power Rangers did make multipart eps special and stand out, but it ruined so much of the series because so much time was wasted setting up the gimmick this ep and the monster, too much time redoing gags at the juice bar, and not enough focus on any real plot development. For some shows this works because their minute to minute content is amusing, and PR had some stuff in the 'real world' that was entertaining, but most of it felt pointless time wasting. Also the writing usually was not that good on the average filler ep, and there was a good bit of cringe when I looked back and sampled a few eps. Things that are cringe in English work better in Japanese -- or any foreign language -- since you can't get the full impact of it.

>>11540983
I liked the cartoon alot its actually the best 80s toy cartoon series imo. I say this as someone born in the mid 90s who discovered ARAH after that cancer 2009 film that i liked at the time because i was in middle school. The "arise serpentor arise" 5 part mini series is my personal favorite part of that show

>>11540981
like i said, they don't feel nostalgic for old shit because it gives them the ick. It doesn't line up with world view today.

Past generations aren't as strict like that. They're more willing to overlook flaws and moral quandaries for various reasons.

I mean, you have millenials and zoomers cutting ties from their families if they don't agree with them politically. Shit's nuts now.
I blame the internet, for allowing people to create giant circlejerks, the increase in narcissism and ADHD training.

If Power Rangers had been a hit in the 70s or 80s, it would be a giant nostalgiafag franchise today. Though i think it's bigger than He-Man. He-Man only gets pushed as much as it does because Mattel has the money to keep retrying and they don't seem to mind lower sales, especially since they own the property. Power Rangers isn't pushed as hard because Hasbro wants bigger sales and even created/bought their own production house (and cable channel) to keep more of the revenue. Whereas Mattel just licenses that shit off to some other production company.

>>11540983
>I used to think Larry Hama was the only writer in this entire scene who didn't totally phone in his job.
Comic writers tend to try harder than hollywood (I'm including cartoo too), but i think that's mostly because there's fewer people looking over their shoulder and karens to screech about it. Your soul gets sucked try fast in hollywood.

>>11541095
>like i said, they don't feel nostalgic for old shit because it gives them the ick. It doesn't line up with world view today.
Im a 90s kid and considered "woke" by many 4chan standards yet i love stuff like gi joe and old 80s franchises and i even casually like MMPR so i dont know if thats entirely true. Yeah alot of zoomers are crazy nutso leftists even by my definition of the term but theres nothing particularly damning or offensive about power rangers. Hell gi joe is arguably more "problematic" because its in many ways propaganda yet that still sells better then MMPR but probably by virtue of appealing to people ten years older usually. Ill be honest im like the only person my age that likes gi joe ARAH that i know of that i havent talked to online. It is really a boomer franchise for better or for worse.

>>11541111
A lot of cartoons in the 80s were guided by "parent groups", who ensured politically correct (what "woke" was called back in the 80s and 90s) messages could be spread to children at an early age. Which is probably why millenials and zoomers are still willing to accept that shit.

By the late 80s and 90s, writers/creators starting having more control over their cartoons and rejected most of those parent groups (and it's probably why those children media education laws started being pushed in the 90s).
I always thought MMPR felt more like a product of the 80s due to the subject matters and actors, but you can still see that rejection, hence the black ranger being black and the yellow ranger being asian. They play it off as not noticing, but no one is that dumb. No one would ever be willing to admit to such a simple joke, especially today and after all the drama about the gay ranger.
Nah, MMRP is toxic as fuck.

Whereas, where's the drama and bigotry with GI Joe? He-Man? Fucking gay icons there and multiculturalism in every episode. Even the violence is as inoffensive as possible and is so cheesy, it's viewed as mocking the military industrial complex/American army. You have to dig to find anything problematic with the big nostalgiafag 80s series.

>>11541040
sure ya did champ

>>11541095
>Comic writers tend to try harder than hollywood (I'm including cartoo too), but i think that's mostly because there's fewer people looking over their shoulder and karens to screech about it. Your soul gets sucked try fast in hollywood
I'm comparing to the other toy comics . TMHT, MOTU, TF, they were all very dishwater compared to G.I.Joe whether the writers were actually trying or not.

>>11541297
I feel like it's not incidental that they made the bad guys look and act gay as fuck and it had nothing to do with dei

>>11541566
>dei
Most annoying buzzword on the planet rn

>>11541630
of god

>>11541645
Schizo post

>>11540946
That's not entirely true. Reference the Final Fantasy VII fan base for whom like the MOTU fan base just want to keep getting shovelling new shit to buy even if it's basically the same things they already have. The original Tomb Raider fan base is also the same way.

>>11540983
A few months ago I went on a viewing-binge of 80s cartoons, and above all others I was impressed with how watchable and enjoyable the GI Joe cartoons still were. The figure designs still hold up as well, especially the ones from the first five years (1982 - 1986). That's no doubt a huge reason why GI Joe is carrying Hasbro's crowd-funding toys right now, and why there's fewer Joes that make it to clearance than any of the other stuff. You know it's the current "alpha brand" to buy when Hasbro manages to sell the shit out of a boxed set that has Zartan in yellow spandex pants and a Beyonce wig, as well as being able to sell Crystal Ball which was originally considered a shit character.

>>11541095
Modern Hollywood has everything done by committee so "everyone feels included, represented, and feels like their personal social views matter." That's one of the reason why everything's shit now. It takes ten people to decide on what any given character looks like. It's bloated bureaucratic waste.

>>11541111
You should. GI Joe is probably the first "team diversity versus evil White people (and a Ninja)" series out there. And even then they'll make Cobra all-White with having Storm Shadow change sides.

>>11541297
None of those people were gay. That's reaching pretty hard, especially for Zarana who had a very-implied relationship with Mainframe.

>>11541566
The only blatantly gay bad guy I can remember is Crasher from Gobots.

>>11541656
"Dei" is ancient Latin for "God."

You learned something today that your trannie schoolteachers didn't teach you.

Sieg Heil

>>11541713
>GI Joe is carrying Hasbro's crowd-funding toys right now
LOL. Haslab are products that are Incompatible With Life
There's no such thing as "carrying" when it comes to crowd funding, because "carrying" implies one crowd fund project will support another. Each Haslab is its own thing and once it's over, it's over forever. It was a Haslab because it couldn't exist out in the real world, but unlike fetuses with giant deformities or missing organs that doctors basically force you to abort, haslabs aren't suffering if its briefly put into production for the few people who are willing to fund it.

>>11541724
>None of those people were gay.
Of course they're not gay, but that hasn't stopped gays thinking of them as gay since at least the 90s. Even the GI Joes themselves have been thought of as gay in the Village People way. Shipwreck, Gung Ho, Spirit, Duke, Roadblock, Quickkick, etc etc.

>Modern Hollywood
I really love how "modern hollywood" has existed this way since at least the 80s and is actually just a repeat of how hollywood was pre-ww2 when they were shitting out movie like a Chinese factory.
Hollywood is in such a loop that modern day wokeism is just a repeat of the 80s, except the parent's group ideas affected adults' movies and tv shows too.

>>11542323
based

>>11542415
cry bitch cry

>>11541724
>White people
sure, if you ignore the dozens of non whites