Thread 11547086

Do tariffs and de minimis mean that we have to go back to local import stores now? Because I miss doing that, actually

the local import store in my area wanted $125 for a gundam figure i could get for $50 shipped on amiami
imagine what the prices are like now that all of this happened

>>11547086 (OP)
>local import stores now
local import retailers will be screwed worse with de minimis

also >>11547092
>amiami
and on-line mail order sites like them will be screwing you without them being able to save with de minimis, sweetheart - plus when it arrives in the port, they will slap on tariffs, which you will have to pay the way foreigners now bitch about having to pay customs or port duties when they buy American comics, CDs or DVDs to get shipped to them.

Actually impressive how retarded and lacking comprehension people here are about tariffs and how the fees work.
Why would a local import store not be subject to the tariffs that are universally applied to imports?

>>11547145
Same reason why these tariffs were applied in the first place: a lack of understanding of economics and that businesses do not pay taxes, they pass taxes on to their customers.

>>11547092
So the import store is a good deal now by comparison!

>>11547357
Now the import store would want $200

>>11547086 (OP)
Unless US businesses anre going to be somehow exempt from import tariffs, the brick and mortar stores are going to upcharge twice as much to cover the costs and probably go out of business/have to switch to comics and MLs.

>>11547382
>comics
What? They still make those?

>>11547382
Protip: Marvel Legends are made in China and imported here too, anon.

>>11547382
They are not exempt. Have you gone to buy groceries since this started? A pound of ground beef, 70/30 so the cheapest you can find, in a roll, once again the cheap stuff, is $8. Shit was $5 a few months ago. Coffee, the cheap store brand stuff, is easily $5 when it was like $3.85. Go ahead and tell me im confusing things, im ignorant, im a poor fag etc etc. Im just saying what i see happening since this tariff shit started.

>>11547436
Damn, Americans are dirt poor

>>11547086 (OP)
You know how Figma cost like $50 dollars more at Gamestops and places like that?
Well now they are going to cost way the fuck more than even that.
Those stores that are still hanging on by a thread are even more fucked than we are.
>>11547405
They do have the advantage of being a mass produced item shipped here in giant crates by a huge corporation. They probably won't skyrocket to insane prices even thought they will definitely go up.

>>11547440
>They do have the advantage of being a mass produced item shipped here in giant crates by a huge corporation.
>just gotta slurp up the goy slop nice and good yum yum

>>11547454
I don't collect the things or have any intention of doing so now.
I was just saying that the big guys are in a much better position to weather this kind of shit with only the little guys getting punished as always.

>>11547463
How is that good the big guys are responsible for this and unchecked capitalism

>>11547466
I didn't say it was good. It is pretty goddamned bad. I was just explaining why the usual Wal-Mart stuff won't be hit as hard as other toys.

>>11547471
>Wal-Mart
Who fucking cares about walmart

>>11547438
We are. It's insane there's enough whales buying toys here to keep the market here afloat. A lot of it is mental illness and people buying toys as if they have to rather than because they want the specific toy. So they skip dr appointments to buy more toys. We get no services here so the government takes like 30-40% of our wages to do literally nothing but pave roads and replace stop lights and such.

>>11547145
It's not like they order in bulk or anything....

>>11547502
A non American made this post

>>11547506
Local import stores do not, in fact, order in bulk.

>>11547357
God, we're so fucked. Nobody understands the simplest of economics. May as well just build a factory for import figures in the US so we can make them and sell them for cheaper too right?

>>11547584
I agree that the golem in chief’s policy here is retarded and probably will bring about big long term problems, but kotobukiya us, for instance, is still selling their kits without an insane markup, even preorders.

>>11547092
Lots of scammers are picking up a few extra bucks under the tariffs excuse.

>>11547625
You'd do the same
>>11547620
Kotobukiya know what theyre doing unlike Hasbro and many others.

>>11547584
This is just another symptom of the competency crisis, and this is a part of it. People who are absolutely brain dead and have no idea how the systems they are interacting with work, and yet think they can solve extremely complex problems related to those systems with simple actions. So they throw multiple industries including toys into chaos.

Can't wait for retardo-in-chief to fucking go away and have a true adult in his place and undo all his fuckery day 1.

>>11547664
The irony in all of this is Trump trampled on manchildren purely by accident while his opposition has been desperate to do away with you for decades now. If the left knew how many chuds were affected by these tariff shenanigans they would never undo any of it.

>>11547557
>>11547664
Dead cats

>ANOTHER FUCKING TARIFF SPAM THREAD
can’t they just make a rule that deports these back to /pol/ already

>>11547086 (OP)
It means stop collecting until Tariff man goes away or his tariffs are ruled illegal

>>11547685
It is entirely relevant to the board. Even figure collecting sites like myfigurecollection have full discussions on it. It impacts the toy industry more than a lot of others. And the fact they are so nebulous means discussions get redone. For instance: Friday a court said the tariffs were illegal. But they stay until October because "lol." We don't even know if the tariffs will still be around in a couple of months.
Also around 20% of the planet has now ceased delivering packages to the US due to the inconsistency and nebulous aspect of these tariffs. Which is very relevant when you import from Japan (it is in that 20%)

>>11547702
>Friday a court said the tariffs were illegal. But they stay until October because "lol."
This situation has helped educate people who otherwise would never care how stupid the government operates. For every exec order that has to do with non-time sensitive things like wars and shit, it should have to go through the court system first before it ever takes effect.

>>11547685
Best start believing in politics, because politics believes in you.

>>11547702
More important things than toys. I for one am glad we're cutting down on dangerous crime and ending cultural marxism

>>11547620
does kotobukiya make their kits in japan like bandai? that may have a lot to do with it, 15% is a hell of a lot less than china's 50

>>11547885
Some of their products are made in china. Some are made in japan.

>>11547885
Isn't China's 30 right now and will only become 50 later?

why is it Americans travel to Japan and make videos about how shocking it is that there's high trust and little crime? maybe Americans can learn a thing or two and get rid of their guns

>>11547145
They're retarded because they keep complaining about things that never once involved them in the first place. Tariffs are paid for by the companies manufacturing and importing the products, not the American customers. People are retarded because all they want is a new excuse to screech Orange Man Bad again this week.

>>11547436
Ground beef is $3.70 per pound here.
Quit being a lying leftist bitching and moaning about fake shit.

>>11548698
Japan and the US are on polar opposite ends of that, though. There's little crime and violence, but that's because they've been brainwashed to put their head down, not stand out, and work themselves to death, and there are all sorts of other problems like high prices for little living space and probably even worse inflationary problems.

>>11547438
Americans are nickel and dimed to fucking death. Every single last damn thing is some minor fee or has a super special tax on it. Just about everything. The whole damn system is designed to bleed everyone dry little bits at a time here and there every single day.

We have connection fees, disconnect fees, administration fees, sur charges, handling fees, everything we do comes with an extra charge of a few dollars just to make it happen, or for something we are required to pay.
>We have toll roads every fucking where that charge $3.50 every single time we use them every single day, on top of the gas we pay that has two levels of taxes on them, in the cars we pay special fees to the state to be allowed to use
>I can't pay my rent without adding on a special processing fee from the rental company on top of the rent charge
>I cannot turn OFF my electricity or water without paying a special fee for that or else they will refuse and keep on charging me next month
>Parking is always a charge, pay to leave your car somewhere no matter what
>Police are nothing but county mafia meant to bleed more money out of you every fucking day, everything is a fucking charge. Cannot afford to fix that turn signal? That's a new fee on top of paying to fix the turn signal!
>Every single last fucking aspect of your life is a subscription service now, down to the airbags in your car.
>Parties decide X thing is bad and levy a Sin Tax on it because the people in charge don't like it very much so alcohol, cigarettes, caffeine, transfats, and sugar will have that super special Sin Tax on top of the state and federal taxes on them.
>Some cities will decide Driving is immoral and add a sin tax on cars, some will say bikes are stupid and tax those.
>Get hit by a bus, that ambulance ride is $1K

People who don't really pay attention or do the math just all of a sudden have no fucking money at the end of the month. They cannot find out why because everything they do is a massive charge.

>>11548698
>America's problem are GUNS
>Get stabbed to death by Muslims with knifes

MANY SUCH CASES

>>11549097
>People who don't really pay attention or do the math just all of a sudden have no fucking money at the end of the month. They cannot find out why because everything they do is a massive charge.

Its actually kind of funny, because when people scream about low wages and just think the solution is just "raise everyone's pay by about 50% (as if that won't cause more problems) but if you point out that raising wages isn't necessarily the solution, but removing or lowering fees, taxes, or other charges would probably help more, their eyes just glaze over like they have no idea what you're talking about.

Also, a lot of people are (sadly) willing to pay way more for the "convenience' of having someone else do something for them. Like, you can buy some fruit or vegetables at the store and cut and prep them yourself, and you'll get more, or you can pay like 3x as much to get less food, just because someone else cut it for you. Most people will choose the latter, and then complain about how expensive it is.

>>11549067
companies don't pay shit, they always pass all fees onto customers. very rarely will a company come out and say they are eating the costs

>>11549071
>bragging about $3.70
It was $1.99 pre-covid. That’s almost a 100% increase in 5 years. Get fucked you disingenuous cockroach.

>>11549115
Literally illegal leftytroon

>>11547702
>now ceased delivering packages to the US due to the inconsistency and nebulous aspect of these tariffs.
This actually has nothing to do with the tariffs but with the elimination of the de minimis rule.
Orange Jesus can actually eliminate that rule without congress (which normally controls things like tariffs) and without any interdiction by any courts one way or another.

So that part of things is not going to change BUT you are correct, it will have a huge impact on import toys and small toy companies, and retailers or manufacturers that sell or rely on the North American consumer market but sell in limited quantities year in and year out.

You are also absolutely correct that all of this is a proper topic for this board.

>>11547685
STFU

>>11549269
>illegal
Yeah, sure, that's why everything's cost has gone up 100-200% lately. SHF's were 40-60 before this orange retard came around, now they're 100 fucking dollars+ minimum. Figma's were 40-60 as well, now $100 etc.

Unironically stick your dick and balls in a blender and hit puree so you never accidentally reproduce and spread your diseased brainrot.

>>11549269
sorry i forgot that royal decrees are now legally binding in america

>>11549067
lmao its funny to live in a bubble

I just imported a box of Pokemon figures from Japan. Normally i pay the regular shipping cost for Japan Post.

Because Japan Post isn't shipping to the US any more, they pass that along to UPS (and probably in other cases Fedex) who did not get paid the original amount for shipping, so its now up to you, the consumer to pay.

You don't HAVE to pay it, it'll just get sent back to the original place you bought the item from. But YMMV on getting a refund.

(By the way, the figures I bought were about $36, and I paid $22 in shipping. UPS wanted $30 something to deliver)

>>11551557
It's funny Americans now have to pay the actual cost for importing a brand they had no hand in creating.

>>11551563
>the actual cost of a toy isn't the actual cost of the toy, but the MSRP PLUS an extra fee, because you didn't create it
Man, you third worlders have the worst education of all.
The actual cost of the toy is whatever the toy company set the MSRP at, which is what Americans have been paying until 4 days ago.

Tariffs are nothing more than protectionism, to stop their citizens from buying foreign made products to force them into buying locally made shit. Europeans and most of the world has been fucking over their citizens for decades now by charging them extra to get it, ontop of the true cost, whereas Americans have been paying the true cost for toys until Trump started imitating Europe.

... but that's not true, because toys have had a tariff since before the 1900s. Americans are just bitching about the raise in tariff fees and de minimis no longer existing for products they personally bought overseas.

>>11547845
lol

>>11549067
Holy shit

>>11549067
>Tariffs are paid for by the companies manufacturing and importing the products, not the American customers.
Hasbro has officially raised their MSRP on standard 6" figures to $27.99

Anyone else think this is just a temporary stunt by Trump to ‘make a deal’ in his usual method of making high demands and then working down to something more ‘reasonable’? I personally don’t know much on tariff laws and policies but this seems like he’s playing chicken with the nations us burgers import heavily from and banking on them eventually relenting to come to a tariff agreement way less economically punitive. Whether it ends that way is still up in the air at this stage…

He is the first thing that comes to mind every time I hear/read "de minimis".

>>11549067
This is the same guy that claimed raising minimum wage will make stuff cheaper. kek
Proof that americans are the dumbest beings in the world.

>>11551983
I don;t know. Why did prices still go up after covid? Inflation doesnt shoot up that quickly

>>11547845
fpbp