how do you meet people?

(except from dating apps, staying in a hostel, attend tours, being a woman)

how and where do you usually strike up a conversation? show interest without a being pushy annoying foreigner? im not autistic and generally interesting to talk to

I do dating apps but I am 41 now so they don't really work anymore, they were ok at 31, other than that I mostly suffer in silence and don't really speak to anyone much...It's been like this world wide I am essentially a ghost.

Tours are here hit and miss, in my Ireland one everyone knew each other and I got hitched up to 2 smelly Italian lesbians

you don't

People here love to larp about how "solo travel for holiday is being a GIGACHAD" but in reality you look like a shitty divorced dad or loner loser burger amerimutt.
What people think solo travel is
>YEAH I TRAVEL ALL BY MY SELF!
>OH TIME TO FUCK SOME HOSTAL SLOOTS
>YEAH DRINKING AT THE BAR MEETING LOCALS
>OH YEAH GIGACHAD PARTYING
What it really is
>can't eat most places in Asia like Japan, they will tell you no or require 2-4 people
>women laugh at you walking alone
>sitting at the bar makes you look one step away from un-aliving and the bar staff hates you for killing the pub vibe
>everyone will think you're an American problem if around and avoid you because how bad Americans are especially in Asia being influencers or shitty coomer brain flashing 200 quid worth of currency to steal a girl from you at a bar rather than being an intellectual who knows the local language
>If bored you have no friends to follow and have fun with
>have to pay full price for a hired car or hotel
>dread of constantly not having things to do or have to spend days planning what to do whilst traveling

It's mental /trv/ defends this type of behavior. Traveling with your lads is amongst the best time of your life. Why bother embarrassing yourself.

>>2782033
I'm taking holiday right now you mutt, it's insanely hard to have a good time. I was told HUB was a fun time but it's just filled with burgers and morons. IT's hard to find places to eat that aren't kebab or Indian places(all shit I could get back home) that will even take me for a seat. All others close at some mental time like 3PM or require 2-4 people for a seat. I've heard so many girls and people laugh just as I am walking and you know they are laughing at me.

I have been here going on a month and it's terrible I've been spending most my time just getting cheap cigs and beer whilst looking at the qt's in Akihabara. Going anywhere else is annoying as a single white male as you're always reminded how everyone is messing it up because of how they assume you're American. It's also terrible to figure out what to do everything closes so early. Why do you close at 5 or 7PM I'm JUST GETTING STARTED. Then you only have bars to go to but they are always full... even if they aren't because I can see a seat or two open.

Just don't bother travel solo it's a troll

>>2782031
>>2782035
Aww, you poor little thing. Do you need me to hold your hand while you go peepee?

>>2782035
why are you so mad about americans?

>>2782037
Fuck off cunt.
>>2782038
Meet one and find out, or look in a mirror.

>>2782044
no offense but i think more of the world finds brits insufferable than americans.. at least with americans its usually just about retarded political slop.

>>2782037
grocery store employee, creep pedo vibes

>>2782047
I used to have a hard time going to yakiniku restaurants alone, but recently there are more and more restaurants that have seats for one, so it's easier to go there.

>>2782031
Oh >>>/r9k/ is leaking again, time to go back dumb frog poster.
>>2782035
ahahahaha it's even worse it's a retarded /r9k/ weeb that went to shitty Japland of all god forsaken places, hilarious.
You might as well want to kill yourself.

>>2782031
It's hard to take anyone who uses the word gigachad seriously. There's a reason no one talks to you mate, got the good ole fashioned brainrot.
> all the bars are full and people think im American
Seriously mate you sound like a literal retard

>>2780690 (OP)
Been travelling alone for years working online my strategy is usually in this order
>go to coworking space, make small talk in the day then "hey lets get food/drinks later"
>find local expat group on FB and go to their events, basically can always find someone with good english
>use meetup, either the socialising or sport ones, some cities have things related to my work and can nerd out with some lads
pretty much works all the time and ez as fuck to find someone decent to hang out with even for an introverted autist like me
once you realise there's thousands of people in the same boat looking for randoms to have fun with just like you it's a lot easier

>>2780690 (OP)
>how do you meet people?
>(except from dating apps, staying in a hostel, attend tours, being a woman)
you just excluded the biggest 2 retard - hostels & tours

what do you expect for an answer??
some magical way to meet strangers?

>how and where do you usually strike up a conversation?
>show interest without a being pushy annoying foreigner?
that's easy, find someone who WANT to have a conversation with strangers
maybe a hostel or group tour would be good start, dating apps also work fairly well
.......

all other tips depend on your age / stance in life
>expat meetups tend to attract an older crowd
>certain cruises are tailored towards solo travelers, though even older people
>university / student bars are typically very open to foreigners, but are all like <30yo

if you spend 100k€+/year in travel there are other meetups
r/fattravel meetup was kinda cool - and people there usually actually have the time / resources to travel with you
also some yacht / jet tours have many other solo travels, but obviously also older people (typical 40-60yo)

>>2780690 (OP)
>(except from dating apps, staying in a hostel, attend tours, being a woman)
You can meet people all over the world by being at bit extroverted and not the average insecure faggot. There is no "How to talk to people" book needed, you just know how to from experience being alive and talking to people. If you never done that, then idk. People usually ask locals about whatever place of interest and if they feel that they are open to talk more, they ask more stuff and if not you just move to the next person. Some might not like you at all, don't take it personal. If it's a touristic place then you probably rather ask the workers. Talking to tourists is a different thing, I'd approach probably other solo travellers and not tight groups, families or couples.

>>2782081
>a bit extroverted and not the average insecure faggot
Another way of saying you have to annoy five people to make one friend.

>>2780690 (OP)
I am in my thirties and spent a great deal of time doing solo travel. What I find bizarre is the implication of your question
>how do you meet people
Why do you need to go out of your way to meet people? If you are charismatic enough, the sort of people you want to interact with will gravitate to you anyway. Why do you rely on other people so much anyway? If you want to hang around other foreigners and expats, you'd be better off just staying in your own country.

>>2782081
>not couples
eh they're ok, they usually get sick of each others shit soon enough on holiday and both want someone else to talk to
I find they are sort of the best to target for nightlife, you get a drinking buddy while breaking the "he's not a schizo rapist" barrier having the lass around

>>2780690 (OP)
>how do you meet people?
>
>(except from dating apps, staying in a hostel, attend tours, being a woman)

>>2782031
the only truths from this are:
>If bored you have no friends to follow and have fun with
>have to pay full price for a hired car or hotel
>dread of constantly not having things to do or have to spend days planning what to do whilst traveling
The asia one maybe correct. Its also not easy to fuck anyone from a hostel you do need to be a gigachad for this or just lucky. That shouldn't be your sole purpose for traveling anyway.
Hostels are honestly the best way to meet people like it or not as everyone is there in the same position. I have met up with some hostel people in their own country months after our first encounter. Most hostels host events too which is great.
Apparently there is an app called "Meetups" give that a try I have heard its decent from a fair few people.
>>2782035
>Just don't bother travel solo it's a troll
this isn't the hard truth, there are definitely pros and cons

>>2782031
I prefer it to traveling with women

>>2782052
Usually Americans are loud and retarded but Brits abroad are loud drunk and retarded

>>2782026
>I do dating apps but I am 41 now so they don't really work anymore, they were ok at 31

People who are worried about solo traveling tend to have such unrealistic expectations about what it's going to be. The truth is, you're probably not going to meet tons of people. You're probably not going to make meaningful or life long connections or even memories. A lot of your time is going to be alone. You are going to be eating meals alone. You will go the bar alone, drink your two beers and no one will want to talk to you. You will go back to your hotel alone. You will see groups of locals and travelers alike having more fun than you. If that reality sounds scary or boring you probably won't enjoy traveling alone.

The benefits are that you are in complete control of what, where and how you want to be. You are open to things and people that you otherwise wouldn't be if in a group. You will notice and see things you wouldn't if in a group. You won't be forced to spend money on things you don't want to.

Go somewhere nice, see the things you want to see. Do the things you want to do. Bring that book you've been meaning to read and it read it when the dark thoughts creep in. Be comfortable being alone. Be open to new experiences and new people, embrace it when it happens but don't pout when it doesn't. No one except you cares you're not having a good time.

>needing other people to make memories
Real talk but what do you do when people are busy or whatever
Do you just sit in your apartment crying that life is meaningless without others

>>2782226
Brits are only retarded in groups. Find a brit on their own and they're usually chill. Americans are the other way around, retarded when solo traveling but can be decent in groups, especially girl groups anyway

>>2782066
>use meetup
Is this legit? I always thought it was packed with undesirables

>>2782035
I had no issues solo traveling in japan and making friends. You write like a insecure faggot, so I'm sure that comes through in person too

>being lonely while travelling alone
Thats understandable
>omg those people were laughing at me for being alone!
Come on man

>>2780690 (OP)
You're not autistic...but you still ask "how to", as if following a certain process or set of guidelines is going to guarantee or at least increase the chance of a desired social outcome. That's how math and science problems work, but not how humans work. You need to focus on tuning in your reactions to the various people you cross paths with while traveling.
>I need to smile more to be perceived as likeable,
versus
>paying attention to what someone is saying and lighting up with a smile or a laugh at the right moment

>>2783131
I replace people with places in my inveterately solo travel life. I can name 500 places, visualize them in my mind on a map and on street level, describe their characteristics and compare them to each other. But ask me the names of the last five people I talked to and I can't name a single one. Their names and faces are forgotten as soon as we part ways.

>>2782091
it's fun to be with other people you autistic cretin

You meet people by staying in a hostel, and chilling in the lounge.
Meet locals at nightlife or dating apps.
Go to party hostels if you want to party, and there will be tons singles ussually looking to party.

If you're just doing tourist stuff like visiting tourist stuff all day, I dunno you just have to be content with being alone.

It gets harder when your older, but if age 18-29 should be Ezee for meeting people in hostels.

Honestly even in your local city, see if a hostel has a decent bar, and hangout to meet people

I've done it before, and met total strangers from a different continent, and just ended up hanging out all day for the next month. And did that multiple times, but I was 23 so right in the proper age bracket.
If your 35 and trying to hangout with university students on their summer holidays, its going to be different obviously, but you should be able to meet locals.

>>2780690 (OP)
>hostels
>hiking
>gambling/cards/poker/etc
>sports (most countries have some sort of open public sports you can join, chess/basketball/soccer/shogi/go/etc)
>music if you play music

those are the only ways I know. I'm an actual full traveling homeless hobo so those and those are the ways I meet people.
I'm definitely not doing any internet/expat meetup group shit.

A lot of men aren't the type of personality to just sit and talk with strangers and 'socialize' without doing anything. That doesn't mean you're autistic or a loser or whatever its a pretty normal common male temperament. Just have to get good at skills that allow you to socialize by proxy

>>2780690 (OP)
Just talk to people. Get involved in sports/outings, talk about them, how they've been.

If worse comes to worse just hire some skis and talk to people on the ski lifts. It's not that hard.

I always make friends everywhere I go
idk, coffee shops, restaurants, beach, walking
people just come up to talk to me
or I talk to them
just feel good and vibe and if someone looks cool you wave and ask where they're from

Blogpost incoming.

I'm travelling alone right now, I came here with a friend, but he got tired of me when I became a rude cunt during a bender, and I became tired of him being a cheap cunt with no money, forcing me to take every decision for the trip. We still see each other every once in a while when we hit the same city, we have a drink and laugh then split up again, and it's much better than way.

Being alone forces me to be more social, and hostels are great for this. During this trip I've have met quite a few people, but it depends on the country. For example, in Latvia being reserved is the norm, while in the Balkans, people tend to be more open and friendly. The mood of the country will influence how fellow foreigners also are in my experience.

Contrary to what some people might tell you on /trv/, there is no maximum age to be in an hostel. One of my best friends this trip was a bald Turkish guy in his 50s or 60s, who just wanted some time away from his wife and family on the beach. We bonded over our love for beer, and that was basically it. Even if he didn't speak English very well, gestures and a few German words go a long way. Playing guitar in the hostel garden did help too. I like talking with old men because they tend to be wiser and more relaxed than young travelers.

The few questions I usually ask are the following: Where do you come from, and from which city/region? When did you arrive, and why did you come here in particular? Where are you going next?
Sometimes the answers are short, and the person might not be receptive, or even hate my guts. Sometimes we share something in common, and we keep talking and talking.
If you've experienced a few things in life, if you've read a few books, they are many subjects to talk about. Sorry if this sounds pretentious, but that eventually comes with getting older, and travelling is an experience you can talk about later, be it positive or negative, so don't worry, you definitely have things to talk about.

>>2791877 (cont.)
Also if it doesn't work with someone, or if a local makes fun of me, I don't care because they don't know me, I don't know them, and in a few days I'm gone to another place.
That doesn't mean this gives me the right to behave like an asshole, it just means that if I want to strike a conversation with someone, I just do it.

But I'm also fine being alone, with my cigs and my beers. Sometimes, it isn't fun, and it does get lonely. Then I realize how I hate my life at home, and I appreciate being abroad again.
It also helps to talk with friends and family on WhatsApp/Telegram with the hostel wifi every once in a while (yes, I'm a cheap cunt and I travel mostly by bus).

Oh and about hostel sex: it's overrated.
It happened to me for the first time in my life, and the results were disastrous: I only fingered the girl because I was afraid she would be too loud and get us into trouble, so she was disappointed I imagine. Then since I'm a sentimental faggot, I fell in love and asked her if I could travel with her, but she is obviously some kind of independent feminist who wants to travel alone. Then we messaged on WhatsApp for a couple of weeks, but I had to mention that I miss her in a particulary boring message while drunk, and since then she didn't reply, it's been three or four days. Some people have luck and meet their gf or wife that way, but I don't think it will be me.
The other time I had sex while abroad was also disastrous, fell for a Russian girl who wanted me to pay for her shit, once I got home we had an stupid argument on Telegram because I was unhinged, and I kept thinking about it everyday for one year, about how stupid I was.
So cherish your time alone, cherish the friends you make for a few days, if you are a beta fag like me, sex is probably more trouble than it's worth.

That said, I might still try the dating app thing once I'm in a specific city because I'm sure there will be a ton of liberal Russian women, and I enjoy the pain.

>>2791877
>>2791879

If you're any older than 20 you're a faggot. I'm so glad I'm not poor anymore and don't have to interact with hostel scum like you

I'm super-shy and lack conversation skills. I'm not very interesting to talk to.
How do I travel alone and also make friends while doing i t?

>>2791907
So fucking predictable, a vapid middle-class fascist mad at someone enjoying something, even negative feelings. Go back to Pattaya and keep paying for sex, you chad, they truly love your muscles.

>>2782031
>rather than being an intellectual who knows the local language
kek did some boomer steal that ladyboy you practiced thai for?

>>2791940
Anon, you posted(on a Mongolian basket weaving forum) about playing guitar in the hostel lobby. The epitome of hostel trash.

How old are you anon?

>>2791955
Old enough to fuck your mom, faggot

>>2790164
Do you hitch and train hop by any chance?

>>2782026
nigger you can change your age

>>2780690 (OP)
bars

>>2782031
They hated him for telling the truth. They coped and seethed

>>2782031
Who cares mate? You?

>>2782031
>>can't eat most places in Asia like Japan, they will tell you no or require 2-4 people
This isn't even true. Most restaurants in Japan, especially in big cities, have a few solo diners at any given moment. Are people judging you? Yeah, but that's a different issue.
>>women laugh at you walking alone
Women are creeped out by me walking alone in my home country anyway, big fucking deal. Nothing I'm not used to.
>>sitting at the bar makes you look one step away from un-aliving and the bar staff hates you for killing the pub vibe
Depends on the bar. Sort of true if you're going to a popular spot with a lot of seating and tables at rush hour on a Friday.
>>everyone will think you're an American problem if around and avoid you because how bad Americans-
Mental illness
>>If bored you have no friends to follow and have fun with
Gayest shit I've read all week.
>>have to pay full price for a hired car or hotel
I'll get my own room with friends anyway I hate hearing people snore
>>dread of constantly not having things to do or have to spend days planning what to do whilst traveling
Yeah I take back what I just said, THIS is the gayest thing I've read all week

You're totally correct that solo travel is not as glamorous as the coping alpha males here act like it is, but you're comically insecure and you sound utterly insufferable.