Is there a state with a more undeservedly smug view of itself than Minnesota? The week I spent in Minnesota was the most disappointing trip I've ever taken. It's not like it's the worst place I've ever visited, but it's pretty bland and doesn't do anything that other places don't do a lot better.

>Twin Cities
Minnesotans seem to think these cities are on par with real cities like Chicago, New York, or LA. The Twin Cities metro is mostly suburban sprawl, and not the fun kind of sprawl like Houston. The number one tourist attraction is a large, shitty shopping mall.

>Outdoors
Not godawful, but fairly flat and repetitive. Nothing nearly as good as the the Badlands and Black Hills in their neighbor, South Dakota, and there are better places to visit a Great Lake. Absolutely crushed by the outdoors in places like California or Utah. I visited in the summer, although I doubt winter is especially fun there.

>High culture
Outside of the Minneapolis Institute of Arts (a great museum, especially for an area that size) there isn't much.

>Low culture
One might expect a state that's one of the worst dressed to have all sorts of fun low culture. It doesn't. Minnesota never developed any sort of good local or regional cuisine like a BBQ style, Detroit Coneys, or deep dish pizza. There doesn't appear to be any dumb fun like lowrider culture either.

>People
Shockingly smug about their mediocre state

>>2795573 (OP)
I stop in Rochester everytime I go through MN and I never regret the fried cheese curds i get there.

Also if you're not into water sports than sure you're going to hate MN for outdoors, otherwise it's a fucking heaven with how many lakes they have.

>>2795591
>Also if you're not into water sports than sure you're going to hate MN for outdoors, otherwise it's a fucking heaven with how many lakes they have.
could a 32yo move in and get a cute/hot white gf?

>>2795593
Probably, but OP is right some of the people are a bit smug even tho the general stereotype is that everyone is too friendly. I think specifically the young people are not that friendly desu, but that's just my experience from the MN state fair.

I have seen some pretty cute (white) women though when driving through the state and skinny. Last time I went through there was a hot redhead that I drove along with for a good 3 hours and saw her at stops along the way too when i went to the restroom. She drove like a bat out of hell though.

>>2795597
Also would not recommend the state fair unless you like big crowds. I thought NYC was bad, but the state fair was insanely packed. Talking WIDE streets completely filled to the brim with people, getting around it was not a fun experience, especially if you had to cut across the way the crowd was walking. Maybe I went on a super popular day but idk, I found Iowa's state fair to be more manageable and fun. You weren't stuffed on the streets like sardines.

>>2795593
If you can’t get hotties wherever you live now, you will not get some hot gf in Minnesota. At best you’ll get a passive aggressive, chunky butterface whose idea of fun is binge watching Netflix and decorating with live, laugh, love crap. You’ll have to deal with her awful family too.

>>2795597
>Last time I went through there was a hot redhead that I drove along with for a good 3 hours and saw her at stops along the way too when i went to the restroom.
...what?

Minnesota isn't bad, it's just disturbingly mid tier. It's culturally 5-10 years behind the larger trends of the country.

What gets me about that whole place is how content everyone is to experience absolutely nothing in their lives. My gf drags me out there every other year to visit her family. I fucking hate it.

>>2795573 (OP)
you missed the entire point of visiting Minnesota, the nature... Go up north to one of the lakes and spend some time fishing, boating and relaxing. We also have the boundry waters for canoeing and hiking. As far as the Twin Cities go, MOA is very over rated, you would be better off biking our trails, walking near the Mill Ruins near the Mississippi, seeing a show at 1st Avenue, visiting Paisley Park for the Prince museum or going to a sporting event. I'm not over defending the Twin Cities here, nor do we claim to be on par with a major US city, but there are some fun things to do if you dig a little bit. Source: i have lived here my whole life.

>>2795591
They're the longest consistently blue voting state going back to 1972 btwpkh0p

Chicago is the only city even remotely worth visiting in the Midwest

Really it's the only actual "city" in the Midwest at all. Everything else is just a sea of suburbs around a small cluster of office buildings

>>2795616
>Everyone is intelligent, prosperous and satisfied with living in a beautiful, well-developed part of the world. I can't fucking stand it!
What is this mental illness? Fried dopamine receptors...or you're simply too muttified to enjoy the placid, wholesome lifestyle in the White towns of the northern USA. Loud music, narcotics, prostitutes and a hint of danger are more your kind of thing.
>>2795604
Girls up that way are so freakin' pale due to the lack of sunlight during the cold months. Up there it's easier to find a nature girl willing to put her phone away and engage with the real world. Make sure you have a pet dog, because she's bound to have one too.
>>2795783
Many Midwestern towns up that way have great Main Streets with pedestrian traffic, plentiful boutique shops, pretty city parks and buzzy evening hangouts. Forests get older and more beautiful with every passing decade, as nature restores what man once destroyed.

>>2795824
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm sure they're lovely places to live. But if you're a tourist from, like, North Carolina with one week of vacation per year, I'm not sure a small Midwestern town is the place to spend it.

Not a great visit unless you are a big time paddler who wants to experience the Boundary Waters. As a place to live? It’s pretty good. Taxes are steeeeep, the Cities are a train wreck of failed progressivism on every level and I agree a bit with OP the culture is stagnant. That’s in stark contrast to Wisconsin which (to me at least) has one of the strongest state-identities in the country, and Minnesota tends to mimic them more than it ever incubates its own culture. Unless you count the sneering liberal smugness in the cities as culture.

BUT other than that not a lot of complaints. It’s a nice place to live.

>>2795746
Okay? People of all colors and allegiances can cook food you know and still have nature on their doorstep.

>>2795824
>Everyone is intelligent, prosperous and satisfied with living in a beautiful, well-developed part of the world. I can't fucking stand it!

They literally can't. It has some of the highest rates of alcohol abuse and binge drinking statistics in the country. In typical Midwest fashion they pick the most culturally acceptable and low risks forms of substance abuse available.

Listen, it's a nice palace to raise a family and live a simple life and there is nothing inherently wrong with that. It's just fucking boring and the most exciting thing that happens in people's lives out there is a cousin getting killed in a DUI crash.

>>2795862
>Talk about going to Wisconsin
>everyone immediately jumps to talking about cheese
>fully expect cheese to be the mainstay
>Go to Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Madison, most of southern part of the state
>their entire culture is getting drunk and microbreweries with a side of cheese in _some_ places
>had to go to a small ass town to even find a cheese festival going on

>>2795824
Small towns are some of the most boring places to visit. I cannot imagine planning a vacation around them.

>>2795885
Minnesota alcohol consumption is on par with most European countries. For better or worse, getting drunk on a regular basis has always been a big part of White culture. It's how people reveal their true selves to their friends and thus deepen their social bonds. It also helps dull the minds of high IQ people and thereby keep them content with living in a small town world. Getting drunk on Friday night and blabbing to your best friends about the challenges in your life is better for mental health than seething and ranting to anonymous strangers on 4chan, that's for sure.
>>2796087
Doing a little research beforehand can help you figure out when summertime events are happening, giving you a reason to visit and mingle with the people. When I traveled the Upper Midwest, I'd usually spend 8 hours exploring around a town or two, then head into the forest to smoke weed, cook dinner, read a book, do some journal writing, and snooooze in the back of my van. Some towns are worth multiple visits, others you're ready to move on after an hour.

>>2796128
>then head into the forest to smoke weed
lmao, are you the same doofus who was yapping about "wholesome lifestyle" and "White towns"? You dumb degenerate

>>2796128

Trying to spin alcohol abuse into a positive thing in order to forget that you live in a regressive society that doesn't allow one to reach their individual or collective potential is the ultimate cope.

There is a reason both coasts are flooded with Midwest transplants. It's okay to admit that. It's a great place to be from.

>>2795573 (OP)
Washington. Fuck people from Washington.

>>2795626
The Boundary Waters are one of the best spots (maybe even the best) for canoeing in the world.

A whole lot of the visible boat/lake culture in the Midwest (probably in other places too, although I'm less familiar with it) is "sit on muh big motor boat on the water with my boring ass family" rather than fishing, canoeing, kayaking, or sailing an actual sailboat. Once someone gets a big motor boat, they never shut the hell up about it. People who actually do interesting on the water seem a lot less likely to talk about it

Sitting around on a motorboat is probably the worst way to spend time on a lake or river, and it's usually worse than just hanging out in someone's backyard. Even paddleboating around a pond is more fun.

>>2795573 (OP)
It's smug, but it's still second to texas
The whole state is a shithole, through and through
It's only good national parks are basically in mexico
Its cities are sprawling suburban garbage
Almost no public land
Muggy and hot summers and dry miserable winters
People are only slightly less retarded than dixieland
Just abysmal all around

>>2795573 (OP)
Wisconsin, Madison in particular is worse. Smaller city and even bigger heads

>>2796352
college cities suck ass

>>2795573 (OP)
People from Minnesota are always trash. They also drive like fucking insane people running from the police. It's shocking how many people I've met from Minnesota that are just pieces of shit.

>>2796151
Wow, so degenerate to smoke a plant, cook a campstove dinner and take an evening walk in the forest with no Internet or data signal before getting an amazingly restful night's sleep!
>>2796240
Illinois is the only Midwest state which is flooding coastal states with wealthy domestic migrants. Illinois sucks, but we're not talking about Illinois here, we're talking about the Upper Midwest.

>>2796311
it is actually, boundary waters is somewhat forgotten, but it is an amazing piece of nature we have here in Minnesota, yeah I won't defend boat culture it is alot of people who just go and hang out and drink on a boat which is kinda lame in my opinion, If I am going out on a boat I would prefer to be doing an activity like fishing or sailing, or kayaking & canoeing, I would say our fishing is better than many other states also just because of the variety of panfish you can catch in our fresh water lakes. We have some great clean deep ancient lakes in Minnesota lined with massive pine trees, there is just something about it that is so peaceful and beautiful about it.

>>2796388
>Wow, so degenerate to smoke a plant, cook a campstove dinner and take an evening walk in the forest with no Internet or data signal before getting an amazingly restful night's sleep!
You are an even lamer, more provincial version of a California dweeb

>>2796388
Fuckin hippie degenerate

>>2796394
We all know you get railed by ladyboys in Pattaya. Make sure you take your pReP, you loathsome queer.
>>2796581
You don't know shit about cannabis users, so stop pretending you do. This ain't the 1960s any more, grandpa.

>>2796769
>getting this triggered because someone made fun of your faggy drug habit

>>2795573 (OP)
>the fun kind of sprawl
>like houston
>houston
fucking lol
texans are NPCs

>>2797295
>NPCs
wow anon, you must be a really unique and independent thinker

>Is there a state with a more undeservedly smug view of itself than Minnesota
Yeah, Texas. Minnesotans dont move to other states and fly Minnesota flags and complain it isn't like home.

>>2797498
Progressives do that literally all the time

>>2795573 (OP)
I had no idea there was a smugness about being Minnesotan. I have family up there and they never act like their state is some sort of goldmine. I’m from Texas and think there’s definitely a lot of unnecessary hyping of the culture here. For all the talk about being “Pro 2A” or a good place for gun owners (I myself am one), there’s nowhere to actually shoot if you don’t know someone with land. This state is massive but good luck if you wanna just park off the side of the road and target shoot

>>2795573 (OP)
I'm not inclined to support a state that has no problem importing 80 IQ Somalians, and gave us Tim Walz, (Proud chud poltard here!) but I would like to visit it one day because all the pictures of Minneapolis actually look pretty kino.

I just think Wisconsin is a little better. Would you guys go to Wisconsin or Minnesota if you had to pick one?

>>2798088
>letting politics run your life
ngmi, just go to Wisconsin and drown your insufferable personality out with beer.

>>2798103
Exactly what I think I should do. Thanks anon.
On a serious note, I showed at least some self-awareness that most of you aren't capable of. It's still probably good advice, libtard. Go cry about Trump beating Kamala, faggot.

>>2798176
This is a travel board, dummy

>>2798088
Listen I’m a Chud as well and you really shouldn’t let politics prevent you from visiting a state. You certainly dont have to go to the main cities full of browns. Rural Minnesota is pretty nice

>>2798566
>Rural Minnesota is pretty nice

>>2795593
theres like 5 white women who arent obese here

>>2798690
He's 32 and posting on 4chan about "how do I get white gf?" He's not going to be getting hot chicks anywhere. He'll be lucky to get obese gf

>>2798566
"Rural Minnesota is nice".... yes, you are most definitely a chud, if you are talking northern Minnesota with all the lakes ok, yeah definitely it is nice. If you are talking southern or central Minnesota then no, there is nothing to fucking do in the cornfields except drink or contemplate suicide. Northern Minnesota mogs the shit outta central and southern MN with both nature and activities.

>>2798697
>nothing to fucking do in the cornfields except drink or contemplate suicide
How can you just forget about doing meth or ODing on fentanyl in Mankato?

>>2795824
I get two weeks of paid vacation time a year, if I'm using it for travel I'm not spending it in St. Louis or Des Moines.
I live in a flyover city, I love it because no one bothers me and the coastal political fires and actual fires don't touch me
I'm also not a retard who encourages new yorkers to come here because we have a handful of BBQ restaurants that make a national newspaper once a year or a single fucking track of rail transit. There's jack shit to do here and I don't want faggot coasties to shit it up by "investing" like we're some commodity.

>>2799032
St. Louis is one of those cities that used to be prosperous so it still has a lot of cool old architecture and great cultural institutions. It wouldn't be one of my top 10 picks for a US city to visit, but it's still a fun place to check out.

>>2795573 (OP)
Amazing that you can get so many obvious things about Minnesota correct while having such a retarded take on the state.

Guess what dipshit. We're not a tourist destination. Why the fuck did you think we were. You're a fucking idiot for coming here thinking it was a destination. Guess what I'm not going touristing in fucking Cleveland either.

It's a great state to live because we are well above average on nearly every category that matters for day-to-day living (hint tacky shit like lowriders isn't one of them). We're not #1 on most things, certainly not in tourists destinations, or amazing landmarks. But the lack of tourists are what helps make the state more livable and affordable.

(all positive measures rapidly deteriorating thanks to what one of the dumbest version of the Democrat party - the DFL - in the country)

Anyways, our state was primarily colonized by (big, dumb) scandanavian (hill people, with giant fridge like bodies, witch like facial features, and horrible skin)(parenthesis used since they are redundant with being a scandanavinoid). This is why we share a similar fate + living standard to those countries.

And yes, that smug, know-it-all better than you attitude is from that Scandinavioid descent and something you will find in those countries as well.

Food? Yah see the Scandinavoids for that. Again, I don't give a shit about eating out much, so it doesn't matter to me. Jucy Lucy's are legit though. That's really the only thing I can think of from our state. I hope you didn't complain about the food without trying the only notable thing from our state food wise.

Our state isn't nearly the worst dressed state (not saying it's great either, it's not), definitely better than most of the middle/southern walmart people states.

Most of the places you listed that are much better tourist destinations are absolute shit places to live (unless you're very wealthy maybe).

>>2798088
Wisconsin is exactly like Minnesota except 10x fatter

>>2800529
>>2795573 (OP)
Sorry for the reddit spacing.
Did you even consider how bikable the twin cities are when making this post? Didn't you read all about our bikability?
Hahaha. That's another smuggy dumbass thing that people with similar attitudes to minnesotoids will write articles about what are city does right. It's actually not true since as you noted the massive suburban sprawl. We're actually one of the most spread out metro areas in the country, and yet the dumb locals think that we need to build more bike lanes even though biking for not pleasure isn't really realistic in 95% of the twin cities.

I fucking hate city people here.

>>2800529
>Cleveland
Cleveland is a surprisingly fun place to visit

You should've visited Spicer, they have cocaine and swinging very funny and weird!

>>2799032
>I'm also not a retard who encourages new yorkers to come here because we have a handful of BBQ restaurants that make a national newspaper once a year or a single fucking track of rail transit. There's jack shit to do here and I don't want faggot coasties to shit it up by "investing" like we're some commodity.
If it won’t be New Yorkers it’ll be Californians. It all happens eventually

>>2800529
I was in Dayton earlier this year. Nothing really good there aside from the National Airforce Museum

>>2795573 (OP)
there is nothing interesting in America. the most interesting thing you could talk about is the body composition of the fat white teenagers there as unobtainable and unsociable as those retards might be. maybe there is some lightbulb-assed somalian sluts? there you go, the only worthwhile topic for a realtraveler like me. maybe I could get some dairy goods? anything else, no you're a fucking square and a bitch.

>one of the most popular tourist attractions in minneapolis is the ruins of the old washburn flour mill
>almost none of the machinery from the mill’s operating days remains because it all was destroyed in a fire in 1991
>before the fire no one in minneapolis cared about the mill and it sat abandoned
Why did they only start to care about the mill AFTER it burned down? It would be a much more interesting place if the machines were still there but instead it’s just a bunch of walls.

>>2795597
>She drove like a bat out of hell though.
Maybe because there was an autistic psycho following in the car behind her.

>>2802951
Hawaii is the best place in the world.

>>2798697
In tourist mode, sure. No halfway sane person would want to live north of the Brainerd lakes (obvious exception being Duluth) though.
>>2796352
Madison is a mix of college students and super-yuppies. It's like if the Lakes Conference if UMN was located 20 miles west. Which is sad because there actually is a few cool neighborhoods in Madison worth checking out, but they're functionally the town's ghetto. If you're ever making the trip to Wisconsin, just spend your time in Milwaukee instead and really hit Riverwest and the Upper East Side.