Thread 2803593

Disneyland's 70th Anniversary Edition

>Last Thread: >>2799405

>What is this thread? Why are there two companies?
Disney parks were initially founded as a way to celebrate the culture and history of America and provide middle class families with a fun-filled immersive experience. While theme parks are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other roller coasters & rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /rcg/ comes in.
>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?
Absolutely! Disney and Universal are currently competing for the Orlando theme park market and beyond! Universal is opening new resorts all around the US and new continents!

Park Crowd Tracker:
>https://queue-times.com/en-US/parks

Roller Coaster Database:
>https://rcdb.com/

Amusement Park News Sites:
>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/
>https://www.screamscape.com/
>https://www.coaster101.com/

Disney Park News:
>https://www.wdwnt.com/
>https://www.wdwmagic.com/
>https://www.allears.net
>https://www.mousesteps.com

Universal Park News:
>https://www.insideuniversal.net

First for Animal Kingdom is a full day park

Threadly list of major Disney/Universal Theme Park dates/announcements

Florida:
>Zootopia show opening in Tree of Life Theatre late 2025
>Monsters Inc. area 2027?
>No date announced for Dinosaur!/Boneyard closing (early 2026 expected)
>Front Tire Land replaces Tom Sawyer Island circa 2028
>Big Thunder Mountain (Florida) refurb finishes in 2026
>Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin closes for refurb in Aug 2025, re-opens 2026
>Test Track at EPCOT reopens July 22
>Both Disney water parks open ALL SUMMER
>Disney resort guests have FREE water park admission on their check-in day in 2025.
>Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket (in Florida) closes 5ever August 28, 2025
>Volcano Bay major refurb starts Oct 26, 2025

California:
>Fast and Furious roller coaster opens in Hollywood sometime in 2026
>Walt Disney animatronic show open noe. Lincoln returning later.
>Mike & Sully closing 2026, becoming Avatar ride

Both:
>Millenium Falcon: Smuggler's Run gets the flight rethemed to Mandalorian May 22, 2026

Europe:
>Disney Village & Disney Adventure World (Paris) overhauls with Frozen and Mary Poppins expansion at Paris to be completed 2026
>Lion King Splash Mountain water ride at Paris Studio park, late 2027 at the earliest
>Universal UK soon

Asia:
>Multi-launch Spider-man coaster at Shanghai DL, no date yet
>Spider-Man Drop Tower at Hong Kong DL, Doc Ock at some point
>Wreck-It-Ralph omnirover shooter replaces the already closed Buzz Lightyear in Tokyo by April 2026
>Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain currently closed until 2027 for complete ground-up rebuild
>Tokyo maybe razing Adventureland 2026 or later?

Unironically if the disney adult dating thing happens i will try to get a girl to go to a park with me while i pay for everything, basically renting a girlfriend and i would be upfront about it

>>2803685
Have there been any rumblings on what might fill in the area where Spider-Man was in USJ? That spot is painfully barren now.

>>2803694
Pokemon is the ongoing rumour

>>2803697
I could see city hall being repurposed into a Pokemon gym or something

>>2803598
*half

>>2803688
There are an extremely small number of girls I would want to go to a park with and it’s unlikely any of them would both live near me and would be on this app.

>muh greatest roller coaster in the world
>friday afternoon with mild weather
>walk on
Damn you fuckers weren’t kidding about this park

>>2803733
I mean to be fair the waits on the SF app are infamously inaccurate. When I went to Magic Mountain they weren't even the same as the waits posted on the screens inside the park

I wonder if Falcon’s attractions is called because they are the ones who were responsible for a huge chunk of SNW indoor sections and they figured they should make more of those sections for SNW so the families can pile up there as Berk is closed.

WDW News Today Tom's video on the Walt animatronic was very weirdly religious. I understand admiring the man but Tom made it seem like a weird thing.

>>2803766
>>2803733
Walk-on was correct. I saw it go off with empty rows multiple times. lmao at the couple in front of me who paid for a flash pass. Anyway ride was 5/5 bretty gud. First drop is no joke.

I don’t remember superman being this shit. Also I keep getting reminded of Jenny Nicholson’s comment that six flags looks like a broken down gas station with rides out back.

>>2803781
Jesus is punishing Disney World for idolatry.

I am only a lurker in this general forgive me but I am out of the loop since EU opening, how is it going? What are the wait times and ride uptime like? T. for the spoonfeed

>>2803802
>wait times were low during previews and opening day because capacity was artificially limited
>they've been slowly increasing capacity since opening and now wait times have fucking exploded

>Six Flags America is going up for sale as a whole, with the county wanting it to still be a theme park and bought by an operator
>Disney buys it and finally makes Disney's America

>>2803802
Wait times are now very high with the exception of Monsters, though from the API they typically get less than 20k visitors a day (the median is just under 16k), less than every other Orlando park. So capacity is certainly still a big issue with the park. Hopefully they can get a fireworks show running sooner rather than later - they've already done two and new entertainment can be added much quicker than new rides can.

>>2803810
That looks dreadful

>>2803810
bonkers that you can get express pass for mario kart but not donkey kong or ministry of magic

>>2803815
>>2803833
It's just a thing you're gonna have to wait out. It's brand new, the hype was through the roof, america hasnt seen a big park like this in a quarter century.

There's really no trick to it beyond people just going and getting it out of their system. Even if they added a full zelda area tomorrow you'd only seen a minor reduction in the overall wait times

It's gonna be packed until it normalizes and then packed again once APs can add it to their passes.

>>2803840
Are any of the rides even that great? I’m interested in Harry Potter. Monsters sounds fun. I’d be willing to wait about 30 minutes for Yoshi.

>>2803855
Monsters is kino, best dark ride in the world. Ministry has a kino queue but the ride itself is good rather than great. Stardust is a kino dueling coaster, hiccup is like a babby hagrids but still good, mine cart has a neat gimmick but is kinda rough. Werewolf is low budget fillter. Mario Kart depends on the person I personally thought the ar helmet gimmick kinda sucks, but other people like it. Cool physical sets though.

>>2803855
>I’d be willing to wait about 30 minutes for Yoshi.
It's honestly not even worth that. From what you can see from the balcony, only one small indoor portion with Kamek isn't visible. It's just a total waste of time unless you have a 5 year old.

>>2803868
Gives the land kinetic movement and that's always a good thing

>>2803840
I'm not convinced the park has enough for queue lines to get normal. It needs a couple more major rides to balance out the queues.

>>2803840
>>2803902
I feel like nintendo is hamstrung by being a copypaste of the japan one. Yoshi should've been modified to have classic omnimover levels of capacity, dk has especially low capacity for some reason and they really should have put some money into fixing that.
Also ministry only having one ride and a show, but the land is themed to a franchise that bombed so nobody has any idea what should be done with it.

>>2803910
> Yoshi should've been modified to have classic omnimover levels of capacity,
It should if it was faster and it didn’t have interactive elements that chases the trains to be minimized.
> dk has especially low capacity for some reason and they really should have put some money into fixing that.
Space fantasy was designed with eight person deployments and Mack’s electric train technology that cannot be implemented to Minecart Madness’ trains. Minecart madness deploys four people at a time.
The only way to fix minecart madness is scrapping the whole thing together.

>>2803916
>Space fantasy was designed

>>2803992
He can't help himself.

what's stopping (You) from being a theme park youtuber, anon?

>>2803992
Can you point out another wild-mouse like ride in Universal.

>>2804048
Does he still hang out in these threads?

>>2804059
I'm sure he does, there's no need to namefag though

>>2804048
>what's stopping (You) from being a theme park youtuber, anon?

I already want to kill myself. Adding another reason to do so is redundant

>>2804065
kek.
You're too funny to die.

>>2804048
I don't want to reveal my power level to my normie friends/family. I'm a pretty successful business person with a wife and kids and I don't want them to know I have a childish hobby. I simply keep my insane autism to myself like a normal person.

>>2804099
My friends are all aware that I'm a psychotic theme park afficionado and it just results in them asking me to take them so idc

>>2803733
Yep we're not exaggerating.
Even today is probably the busiest wait time day I have seen all year and it is nothing compared to Hershey, and wait times are exaggerated by Flash and a key number of rides closed (and all the removals) The non-water park has been fully dead outside around 3 days so far this year.
This is the end result of close to 2 decades of just complete cost cutting, jewish business practices, very poor operations, and lack of vision or investment.. A long line of failures from multiple leadership, Cedar being the latest and the recent unannounced removals just was the breaking point building up. And people called me retarded when I said locals were going to stop going when the main thing they saw from this park this year was the video of Ka getting blown up because only thoosies care or whatever, and clearly I was proven right there.
I don't even think 2026s coaster will largely fix the last 20 years, you need 10 years for a complete redo of a large part of the park with major investments and complete overhaul of operations to at least par up to Hershey. And seeing how this year is going I doubt that ever happens.

>>2804106
>and clearly I was proven right there.
Anyone could have predicted that lol

>>2804059
I was wondering this too, I just started watching this guy and his general demeanor makes me think he would be a chan user. If you read this you seem pretty cool keep it up, it's nice to hear your perspective especially since the well is so dry and standard news updates and retrospectives now

I've never been to Six Flags Magic Mountain, yet there's a lot of people saying that Goliath is overrated. It definitely has the stats in terms of height and speed, plus that helix at the end seems intense. Since I feel that I'd like it, is Goliath as overrated as many others would say so?

>>2804127
Yeah and quite a few people have, but the amount I was told GP wont care/take meds/etc to just be proven right anyway

>>2804134
It's not good, but not awful. The drop is shallow compared to other hypers, and almost stopping in the middle block brake kills the fun--although I understand why they changed the program to do that. It really lacks a lot of the features other hypers of its day had and is viewed as obsolete by some enthusiasts. But people love it because there's a dearth of hypers on the west coast and they just haven't been on one designed by a better company.

>>2804134
Why is the SFOG Goliath so short compared to this one?

Went to tivoli gardens recently, trip report incoming

>Park was relatively easy to get to, right in the center of town
>Walk in a little before lunch (11am)
>Start my day off light, looking at the decorations and watching families make their way around the park
>Hit up the chairswing, possibly the most beautifully-set example that I've ever seen, right in the center of the park overlooking the main promenade and fountain
>Walk around some of the carnival game areas, play a few even though some were fucking rigged as shit, enjoy myself
>Hit up the milky way express which is cute but underwhelming
>Have a fucking BLAST on Rutschebanen because the brakemen felt like being absolute madmen that day, I went on at least 6 times
>Unfortunately Tik-Tak and the super tall chairswing were closed for various reasons
>Have a great time on Aquila which is a fantastic flat ride that more parks need
>Eat an overpriced but filling lunch at the restaurant overlooking the pond with the pirate ship (pic related)
>Take a ride on the magic carpet, which was actually pretty okay
>Fatamorgana was closed which also sucked
>Enjoyed generic drop tower as the line was short
>Walked on to the little Hans Christensen Andersen dark ride, was pretty damn cute
>Daemonen was supposed to open at 3, so a huge fucking line formed that I barely squeezed onto. Cute ride, but rather underwhelming due to space constraints
>Ended the day with a few more rowdy runs of Rutschebanen and a final chairswing

The park is not terribly exciting, but by god it was beautiful and really used the space well. The fact that it's in the middle of Copenhagen makes it a really easy sell to travelling families looking for something to do on vacation. The clear highlight was Rutschebanen, but I was mostly enamored with the attention to detail and relative beauty of the park. I'd love to go back when I have the chance, and I highly encourage every anon to go if they find themselves in Denmark. Charming/10.

Would you say that four high-capacity coasters would be enough for a big theme park?

>>2804206
Four coasters is barely enough to cater to broad target groups and won't be enough to feel worthwhile without some fantastic lineup of flat rides. You'd have maybe one family coaster, a woodie, and two interesting steel coasters, which is pretty much the bare minimum. This is also not considering you'd have one or two down for maintenance at any given time. Most of the good parks that I've been to have 5-7 bona-fide coasters worth riding.

>Going to Tokyo Disney resort this fall
>tfw Journey to the Center of the Earth is closed during my trip
I'm so butthurt right now. Journey was my most anticipated ride. Indiana Jones is closed as well, but I suppose that's less big of a deal considering it exists elsewhere. Ah well.

>>2804201
Based trip report anon. I've always been interested in Tivoli, it's fascinating how they could build such a charming theme park with such limited space in the middle of a large city. Plus I feel like the European theme parks are pretty underrepresented here.
I hope more anons post their trips whenever they make them, it's always fun to read.

>>2804174
The only thing they have in common is using a generic trademarked SFI name

>>2804206
Kind of a loaded question that varies based on park being evaluated.
Magic Kingdom has 4 high-capacity coasters (5 overall) and Disneyland has 4 overall coasters (3 high-capacity). This is enough for them with the most crowds on earth, because the dark and secondary rides are spotlight attractions on their own and not just the side attractions to coasters
A local smaller amusement park might skirt by with four but it would have to be a small attendance count per year
A local larger amusement park could not survive on just four coasters because the lines would be absolute bonkers and even then there is capacity issues (and let alone if one is on maintenance or shut down for the day)

Who do you go to theme parks with?
Are there seriously niggas who go alone?

>>2804295
>Are there seriously niggas who go alone?

You better believe it nigga.

>>2804295
Never been with anyone else but family but I've gone alone before and have a solo WDW trip in a week. First time I went solo was to see Wishes! a couple days before the last showing.
It's definitely not as fun going alone. The "do anything you want at any time" aspect is overrated for me because even on big family trips we don't really miss anything I'd want to do. If you're alone you have the awkward "look at that manchild riding small world by himself" problem. Just overall I find myself missing someone to bounce off of especially in queues which are boring af and I don't wanna sit on my phone.
Solo trips are not super fun but neither are big groups. 1-2 friends/family is the peak experience.

>>2804295
I don’t enjoy the company of others except my family.
>>2804298
>If you're alone you have the awkward "look at that manchild riding small world by himself" problem.
Sounds more like a you problem. I rode it back to back because my brother didn’t want to do it and had no issues.

>>2804243
>Journey and Indy closed at the same time.
That's fucking brutal. Wonder how that's going to impact lines.

>>2804255
>trademarking a biblical name

The Spinda Ka is real!

>SF:A running only one train on superman ride of steel
I know they’re kill but I still mad

>>2804348
Joker is not only running one train but the middle four rows are closed

>>2804346
Yes

Autists, do you count double coasters as two credits or one?

>>2804378
racing: 1 credit if the layouts are exactly the same.
dueling: 2 credits if the layouts have an appreciable difference

>>2804380
Yoy's probably a good example of dueling coasters that are worth 2 creds. Just a bit of a shame that the coaster failed a bit on its concept of a white knuckle coaster dueling a family coaster (the "family" has longer, more forceful airtime and loads consider it the more intense side).

Single Rail family coasters seem a bit cursed at the moment.

>>2804342
That's what I'm afraid of too, I was hoping crowds in most of DisneySea would be a little better since most of them are probably gunning for Fantasy Springs, but now I'm not sure. At least I'm spending two days there, so I'm sure I'll be able to hit everything else. Was thinking of only doing one day at the castle park considering a lot of it is the same old rides. I mostly wanna focus on the unique stuff like Beauty and the Beast and Pooh's Hunny Hunt. Though it'll also be funny to have my very first experience with Splash Mountain be entirely in Japanese.

A live look at a beautiful sunny weekend day at Great Adventure.
New Flash ride has been shut down the entire weekend

>>2804442
Jersey devil was down when I was there Friday too. But at least there is something redeemable about that park. Can’t say the same for Six Flags: America. Nothing of value will be lost.
>superman
Good but really just a below average hyper.
>roar
Mid.
>wild one
Garbage.
>joker’s jinx
Mid.
>skywinder
Garbage.
>harley quinn
Good but a clone.
>wonder woman
Good but a clone.
>firebird
Looked so mid I didn’t even ride it.
>batwing
Idk it was down.

They’re making the right choice.

Monthly reminder that the greatest dark ride of all time existed for merely 12 years.

>>2804424
One day at the castle park is totally doable. Really helps that both Hunny Hunt and Monsters are available on the free FastPass. I walked into the park, grabbed Hunny Hunt passes on the app as I walked to Monsters, then got to ride that with almost no wait since everyone else was rushing Beauty and the Beast.

What was the deal with all of the Luigi’s mansion rumors. I cannot find anything on the official Universal park about them doing anything with that IP, at least yet.

>>2804503
People just want another screen ride. Let them dream.

>>2804384
>>2804385
Speaking of single rail coasters, is the one that just opened at Lost Island in Iowa a custom design or a clone?

>>2804559
It's the same layout as Stunt Pilot, itself a slightly modified version of the prototypes' layout.

>>2804503
It's pretty much the only one with zero evidence.

We've seen leaks for both a temple of time and hybrid boat ride (based off of Breath of the wild) for Zelda and a Pokemon zone (with kids playground elements). Zero for a Luigi's Mansion ride.

>>2804503
I hope it doesn't happen, personally. SNW already has a screen based shooting gallery and that's fine enough. I understand why Nintendo and Universal would want to make all of the SNW rides "video gamey" but the Pokémon ride will likely also be a shooting gallery and do we really want to have three?

>*has more hourly capacity than your thoosie shitter*

Jokes aside, what SHOULD go here?

>>2804603
The Cars ride

>>2804603
Nothing, those rides are perfect for kids who universally love any chance they get to "drive" something

>>2804620
Yeah, it should just be majorly plussed and made electric but this is nuDis

>>2804626
>and made electric
No thank you

>>2804629
Electric cars are gay but it's in Tomorrowland retard. What is futuristic about loud lawn mower engines? I'm a car/motorcycle and internal combustion is the best thing ever, but it doesn't fit with the area.

>>2804634
>What is futuristic about loud lawn mower engines?
Nothing, which is to say it wasn't futuristic the day it opened. No one cares about that, retard

>>2804626
>>2804634
The EV-ication of the speedway is kind of a cope. nobody truly wants that. if disney did that it wouldnt win any of the haters over. The whole track would need a complete thematic overhaul to start. But replacing it with a better ride with similar capacity is the best

>>2804634
>>2804637
Freeways WERE the future when Disneyland was built

>>2804638
yeah and disneyland's is better even though world's is decades newer

>>2804635
I and lots of other people care about theming.

>>2804603
They briefly considered a Meet the Robinsons flying car replacement until the movie flopped.

I'm new at this and am just picking up on some patterns, but is B&M just known for smooth, boring, sometimes gimmicky seat coasters? Seems like all of the rides of theirs I've been on are silky smooth and have little that stands out about them, except maybe some meme feature that ultimately adds nothing, like floorless coasters, or even detracts from the ride, like standing coasters. I definitely loved Batman and Superman growing up, but now the only thing I still really look forward to from them is their hypers. I don't feel like they ever make anything truly shocking. Like if you showed me the main ideas of Velocicoaster and Hagrid's I never would have expected B&M to be behind them.

>>2804642
Disney's willingness to put out concept art just to drive shareholder excitement then not building the ride is obnoxious.

>>2804600
Maybe it'll be a shooting gallery where you shoot physical targets, not screens.

>>2804647
Fans of automobiles suffer this all the time with concept cars. Like the higher ups get some sick gratification from cockteasing their fanbase and never delivering.

>>2804645
B&M's success is largely because they deliver consistent results. And they do that by seldomly pushing the envelope. That means a lot of coasters that look and feel the same. They're undeniable crowd pleasers, though. If you owned a park and wanted something truly radical, B&M wouldn't be the company you'd approach.

>>2804635
>>2804638
>technology can't be allowed to advance in Tomorrowland because it just can't ok
Dumb fucks like you are the reason why Disney sucks now

>>2804638
Yeah but tomorrowland speedway is not a freeway. It’s just fuckin cars which were like 60 years old when it was built. It never made sense.

>>2804652
Electric cars aren't the future, they're the present. No one's excited about that.

>>2804653
>When it opened, it represented the future of what would become America's multilane limited-access highways, which were still being developed.
Why can't zoomers do even cursory research on wikipedia?

>>2804648
I dont care. Shit's overdone at universal and all of them fall short of what prime MIB was like.

>>2804664
Cunningham’s Law you fucking newfag

>>2804650
I guess so. I guess the fact that I can’t enjoy something like Batman the Ride much anymore means I’m a true enthusiast. I guess it mildly annoys me that they put up a facade of innovation in their car and seat designs when the track is more or less the same thing they’ve been doing for 35 years - a steel twister around 100 feet tall going about 55 miles per hour. But I see they serve their purpose.

>>2804638
And they were the present when Magic Kingdom was built, let alone today. There's a reason Tokyo and Hong Kong have already taken theirs out.
>>2804642
It's insane there hasn't been any flying car attraction built yet, the concept of them is futuristic while not being something that becomes reality in a few decades.

>>2804670
Idk what that is and I'm not going to look it up

>>2804675
>And they were the present when Magic Kingdom was built, let alone today
Nope. Take it up with the Wikipedia editor if you think it's wrong

>>2804673
>I guess it mildly annoys me that they put up a facade of innovation in their car and seat designs when the track is more or less the same thing they’ve been doing for 35 years
That's their thing... small, continual changes to existing products and only once in a while do they introduce something more radical. But if you look at their first design (a stand up), it was miles ahead of every other manufacturer's attempt at one. And once Schwarzkopf closed, they were the first manufacturer that really took a serious approach to making their rides enjoyable by figuring out the formula for smooth transitions and curves.

It is impressive that most steel coasters are so smooth now. They can run 80-90mph+ on relatively small wheels with virtually no suspension and it doesn't feel like you're riding a jackhammer. B&M laid that foundation and everyone else in the game had to follow it.

>>2804580
I honestly get more confused when I look into it since the only new Nintendo additions at Epic are Rosalina, Zelda, Link, and Ganon pictures and Zelda merchandise.
For all we know, it might be another Bowser Jr’s challenge and they greatly exaggerated the attraction, thinking it was going to be something massive, when Dark Universe already fulfills the spooky land thing.

>>2804295
My girlfriend

To anyone going to Cedar Point, I would recommend scheduling the private tour. It's $600 a head but you'll get another thoosie taking you around the park. Also you get to skip past the people that fake disabilities.

I ceded my turn to people with actual visible impairments

>>2804665
Honestly, the only thing they haven’t done at Universal is making a motion sim screen shooter.

>>2804463
Would Beauty and the Beast be better to do near the end of the day then, or maybe around lunch or parade time? I was assuming it's a rope drop ride, but that's probably what everyone thinks

>>2804503
It's purely insider scoops/rumors being spread by people like Alicia Stella. Granted she's been correct on pretty much the entirety of Epic Universe years before construction even started so she does have a way more solid track record than most. Still, I won't buy it until I see some form of concept art

>>2804735
What things was she wrong about?

>>2804736
It's not that she's wrong necessarily, but sometimes Universal changes their plans internally after the leak so, for example, she was pushing that Lost Continent was being turned into Zelda when Poseidon got closed, but all indication now is that Zelda is going to Epic Universe to coincide with the 2027 film. So she probably isnt wrong, but internally a change was made. So maybe Luigi's Mansion was being developed, and still may be, but it doesn't look like that's gonna be the EU expansion.

>>2804048
>>2804059
I don't come here as often as I used to...

It's been an interesting journey with the channel. I get recognized in the parks almost daily, and lots of DM's from people trying to meet up. sometimes park employees give me free stuff, or re-rides on coasters. Also been invited to after hours events and team member preview stuff.

It's fun, but I get kinda annoyed by all the attention sometimes. I did meet my gf through the channel though, and also bring in an extra $1k every month from YT, so its definitely worth it.

I've been in Orlando for about 10.5 months now, with 315 park visits already. Sometimes I feel burnt out, and take breaks, but I keep finding ways of keeping it interesting.

>>2804749
o7 brother
time to get on the media lists

>>2804677
I definitely thank them for figuring out how to make really smooth coasters and showing that to everyone else. They walked so Intamin could fly I guess.

Stand ups are a fucking meme though and hopefully there is no controversy there. There’s a reason no one made one for decades after the Georgia Scorcher. All the proof I need the past was a hellhole was the line for the Scorcher being 2 hours long in 2003. I was 9 at the time and I figured that had to be the best ride ever for people who to wait in the Atlanta sun for that. Was shocked when I actually rode it a few years later.

>>2804749
>I get recognized in the parks almost daily, and lots of DM's from people trying to meet up. sometimes park employees give me free stuff, or re-rides on coasters.
12k subscribers gets you THAT??

Also is your stuff any good? Don’t believe I’ve seen it.

>>2804740
My guess about the Luigi’s mansion expansion is that they scaled it down due to three factors.
One, Universal is constantly being praised and visited for their coasters than for the other rides they’ve developed. So the space Luigi’s mansion could’ve used was shrunk down to give room to potentially another coaster. We’ve seen Hollywood and Florida shifted their direction to getting a massive and unique coaster before getting anything else, and at the expanse of other park areas (the tours, the citywalk, old attractions). With Epic Universe being the biggest park, they would desire making another big ride for it to keep its momentum.
Two, Luigi’s Mansion was a ride type and direction Universal was no longer in favor of because of its complications and issues in Minion Blast. Which was a rough simplified model of Luigi’s mansion. It being an overcomplicated screen ride could cause it be scrapped entirely like what happened with the potter VR attraction.
Three, would be the issues of capacity Universal is constantly having with its Omni-mover rides (Pets, Yoshi) and Mario Kart. And they would rather have a SNW attraction that is above 1200 people per hour for once.

>>2804755
My channel has 12k subs, but each video averages over 50k views, so its a lot more people than it looks.

I think what made me jump past most other park youtubers is the lack of vlogging. Vlogs are way too long for how much useful info they include. you could watch a 30 min video just looking for 3 minutes of the info you are looking for. My vids are all thought out commentary on topics about the park scene in general, so they don't waste lots of time on "look at this new light post that just got added"

>>2804754
>Stand ups are a fucking meme though and hopefully there is no controversy there.
They're nearly universally considered low-tier coasters. A few of them have been removed and a few others converted to floorless rides. They never approached the popularity of the invert, but they were B&M's very first coaster.

The one I'm surprised never got popular was the wing. The flyers being rare makes sense because they're expensive and need a lot of upkeep. But the wings just never sold well. I've never been on one though, I wonder if they're just not very fun.

>>2804763
Yeah that's why I like your stuff, no vlogs. There are tpg vloggers I watch but it's nice to just have a commentary video. If you ever did want to do vlog content for some reason, I think it would fit you to do edited voice over videos where you give commentary over clips you record in parks, basically what you do already, not "im a youtuber recording a youtube video of myself in public"

>>2804749
Damn bro, nice. It's easy to get cynical in a place like this, but seeing you start to talk about moving to Orlando in these threads to then actually doing it and getting some notoriety from it is pretty rad. Glad you're having a good time. I hope the increased notoriety of the channel doesn't get too out of hand so you lose sight of the simplicity of going to a theme park to just enjoy yourself.

>>2804603
Tomorrowland Speedway is prime for a massive expansion of really any type once Cars opens. The main reason it has not happened is, as you mentioned, it is a capacity killer on that side of the park and also one that is all-ages. Once Cars serves the same purpose they have a massive opportunity for a major attraction. Can even be a Fantasyland/Tomrrowland split and fix the worst sightline at the resort
Now Autopia, that will never get changed. Not only is it an opening day attraction which makes it untouchable, it above the submarines and the ride most interlooped with the monorail track. Both rides would have to go and the monorail down for a very long period to be shortened, and even then it is not going to provide too much land for something interesting

>>2804749
>lots of DM's from people trying to meet up
To do what?

Is it gay to wear magic bands? Think I'll just get the lanyard holders if they even still have those

>>2804768
Good. It’s really weird to me that so many companies pursued what was obviously a bad idea, B&M “perfected” that idea, then everyone abandoned it. I guess they were all hoping there was something there besides fools gold.

The only wing I’ve ridden is x-flight. I thought it was boring but as you’ve said I’m probably in the minority there. Maybe because it separates parties of 3 and 4 into pairs?

>>2804799
Nigga it's Disney no one will notice or care

>>2804803
>>2804768
Wings need a huge space and I'm guessing are really expensive.

Making them into a family shuttle coaster with babbies first inversion is interesting though, thing there's a second one of these being built: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzl72c1HDN0

>For the first time in recent memory, Disney is offering a limited-time special offer for new Walt Disney World Annual Passholders
>When you purchase a new pass, you’ll receive a Disney Gift Card eGift valued up to $100, depending on the pass type
https://www.wdwmagic.com/other/ticket-annual-pass---disney-incredi-pass/news/22jul2025-disney-world-offers-rare-gift-card-bonus-with-new-annual-pass-purchase.htm

>>2804803
X-Flight is actually one of the more intense wing coasters out there because of its compact layout. Out of the 3 I've been on(X-Flight, Gatekeeper, Thunderbird), Thunderbird was by far the best, probably because of the launch.

>>2804730
It's really only a rope drop if you're one of the first in the gates, which you probably won't be because the Japs show up super early. I got there an hour before opening and had hundreds of people in front of me. A vast majority of them went to B&B. I have seen recommendations to do it at the end of the night, but I didn't risk it personally. I just went in when the queue said 60 minutes. I normally don't wait that long for a ride, but I had already done most of what I wanted to do there, so I was willing to wait that long for a unique ride. I think this was around 3 PM. Can't confirm anything with regards to whether parades diminish the wait as they were all cancelled that day.

>>2803593 (OP)
I have been saving up for Halloween events. Every single thing is already getting sold out before I can save enough money. I miss the old days.

>>2804965
Your CC anon? Just don't use it as an excuse to overspend.

The HHN are kino but are Oogies Bash/Not so scary halloween party any good as someone without a kid? they're stupidly expensive and sell out comically fast.

LAUNCH BAY IS DEAD CELEBRATION
https://disneyparksblog.com/wdw/disney-animation-inspired-experience-coming-to-disneys-hollywood-studios/

>>2805002
Filler attraction but can't really moan at them doing a pavillion type thing like Epcot used to have and actually remembering what the park is supposed to be themed around.

>>2805002
>The building was once an animation studio that worked on Mulan and Lilo and Stitch
>Closes down because of muh CGI
>Sits abandoned
>Gets converted to a throwaway Star Wars walk through
>Finally gets converted to a replica of the animation studio in Burbank
You can’t make this shit up if you tried

>>2805002
Hercules and Mulan are finally getting something.

>>2805013
My hope is every mainline Disney film gets at least some small interactive looping animation window or appearance, especially the ones that would never get mentioned or featured in the parks otherwise
It’s more then possible

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/pokemons-upcoming-theme-park-was-inspired-by-isolation-during-the-pandemic-says-junichi-masuda/

Pokepark Kanto

(not at Universal Studios)

>>2805013
Much more than they deserve

>>2805002
they're demolishing the arch

Here's my predictions for MK's ten year plan.
I foresee most of this as an attempt to compete with Epic without having to open a fifth gate.
>Adventureland, Frontierland & Liberty Square merge to form one giant land with multiple mini-lands
This makes sense because they already are transforming the left side of the park into an IP dumping ground and also turning the studios park in Paris into Adventure World which will also be a random IP park so it makes sense that they would just merge everything into one land because New Orleans, Cars and the western theming do not mix, so they can simply use the blanket term "Adventure" to describe all of these things.
Disney also seems to be motivated to move away from any Americana/patriotic theming considering the desire to replace Rivers of America and their lack of interest in keeping Hall of Presidents updated, so I predict that Liberty Square will be turned into a Haunted Mansion mini-land and the president animatronics will be repurposed into a show that explains the backstory of the Haunted Mansion with ghost characters etc. and the ride itself will be updated to match it.
Pirates of the Caribbean will be similarly updated to fit a New Orleans theme like the Disneyland version.
Big Thunder Mountain gets rethemed to Coco/Mexico either now or sometime in the near future.
>Path from Coco land on the left and Piston Peak on the right leads to Villains Land
Villains Land occupies beyond thunder and the northern half of the former Rivers of America. Bald Mountain coaster E-Ticket and a homosexual show, possibly the dumb shit that's at DSH is simply moved there are the attractions with a ridiculous amount of shops and restaurants for all the millennial disneyfag consoomers.
>Fantasyland is expanded north with an expansion of both Storybook Circus but most importantly Beauty and the Beast with the Tokyo ride and possibly the Tangled boat ride built around the previously unseen body of water. Westward path leads to Villains Land

>>2805017
This is exactly what I was describing when I arm-chair imagineered a Pokémon land a couple threads back, if you recall. I hope the Universal land is this concept but with different biomes and a sort of catching mechanic with a purchasable bluetooth pokeball that functions similar to the Harry Potter wands 2.0 and interfaces with the app. Animatronic outdoor Pokémon similar to the SNW Mario enemies are combined with static figures and screen based "encounter" spaces where you can RNG encounter, battle, and catch different mons. The majority of the land should be different routes as a sort of walk through area that encouraged exploration with areas resembling a cave, forest, desert, ocean, city, etc. The pokemon you catch can be brought out on the ride with you and used for whatever interactive component that's similar to Pokémon snap. It would print so much fucking money. The sky is the limit really. People could bring their caught mons into the stores and get customized plushies of those mons. You could interface the app with pokemon home so you could take the pokemon into the games. So much fucking money is just there for the taking.

>>2805021
He returns.

>>2805021
>Alice in Wonderland mini-land replaces Tomorrowland Speedway
This is just something I saw on someone else's buildout but I liked the idea. Alice in Wonderland dark ride that is similar but different to the Disneyland version and also a hedge maze like the one in Paris and maybe a Queen of Hearts castle.
>Front part of Tomorrowland gets turned into a Stitch mini-land
They bring back Stitch's Great Escape, turn laugh floor into a turtle talk esque attraction and re-theme Buzz Lightyear to a Stitch dark ride.

And that's all the autism I can muster for now. Until next time..

>>2805002
This actually looks like a good use of the space that doesn't involve a full scale expansion. It fits with the theme of the park and the concept art looks pretty good. Curious as to why they didn't announce this at D23. Rumors are bookings are down by a significant margin and everyone is so mad at Disney that they're going to announce another major expansion. But since this is nuDis it'll likely be poorly thought out and retarded because anytime they take a step forward they take ten back.

>>2805018
Both are more deserving of a ride than Tiana is.

>>2805024
It seems they are doing smaller revamps getting blog posts to keep it seemingly like there is new stuff all the time (see also Space Ranger Spin refresh)
At the same time, I really think this is the year for Figment. They pissed off the Disney Adults who go all the time too much with removing river and Muppets right as Epic is happening

>>2805023
Similar but different you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nunt7qKJjh0

>>2805027
I think Figment is likely along with SSE. Not sure what any major unannounced expansions look like. If a major expansion is announced construction likely wouldn't begin until 2028 or 29 anyways.

>>2805027
>>2805024
D23 in a month. I think this is a "tock" year but I think we're going to see some announcements. I think they're going to go all out on a bunch of small announcements for things quick to build. Lots of filler attractions to try and lower crowding and to make parks a bit more "full day". Not to mention all the fan pandering they can manage

Paris will get more reveals for Adventure World, possibly a new E-ticket for after Lion King (Star Wars coaster?) but more likely night shows, food places and something new for the castle park (no new rides since Buzz Lightyear which is getting an upgrade). Without a steady stream of new attractions, Universal are going to steal their lunch money there too.

Biggest thing is I think they're going to aim for more "value" . We're already seeing some deals that were abandoned in the pre-covid printing money era, I think we're going to see more incentives for going above Art of Animation tier resorts and they'll secretly lower off peak prices.

>>2805034
Disney need to sort out their construction times. 4 years from announcement to opening as a standard is just insane.

https://youtu.be/WQy5CENGjtI

Twister-bros...don't call it a comeback

>>2805037
Their construction times on lightening lane rides: Sonic fast
Anything else: moves slow enough to make the shareholders happy

>>2805039
Looks really fun... but who the fuck does a third person perspective on a simulator? They put a load of effort into immersion then they have the video make you spiral around the car, clip through walls etc. It doesn't even allow you to pretend you're in a drone

>>2805025
>remove “actually the sharecropping era wasn’t that bad” movie ride
>change it to “actually the jim crow era wasn’t that bad” movie ride
At least we can laugh.

>>2805048
Best thing about Tiana is it finally means Paris gets its first unique E-ticket since Space Mountain that stays unique.

I guess they could retheme Tokyo's Splash Mountain to Lion King though...

>>2804803
>B&M “perfected” that idea, then everyone abandoned it.
Then B&M reinvented it a few years back, Sea World bought one, and no one else has afaik.

>>2804934
>X-Flight is actually one of the more intense wing coasters out there because of its compact layout.
I think it was intended to be a clone along the lines of Batman, where it could fit in most parks, then SFI decided against it. I would guess cost was the big reason, because they ended up buying a bunch of those S&S Freespins shortly after X-Flight was built. You can probably get 2 of those (or more) for the price of one B&M wing clone.

>>2805051
I doubt they will. Tokyo has a mini-land dedicated to the current Splash themeing. They'd need to update the entire area around the ride, and they've already announced big projects for the park.

>>2804934
>X-Flight is actually one of the more intense wing coasters out there
Grim. I was excited because it looked cool but was underwhelmed.

>>2805034
SSE is getting a small refurb this year which already announced closing date permits already filed (which means no surprise changes) and that is intended to cover it for a few years for the full track gutting
Imagination is definitely next, that’s just a question if it’s this year or 2026 or 2027 we hear about it. Way things are going it would make the easy one last thing this year

>>2805088
They need to restore the original ending

>>2805101
If the left the rest as is but redid the ending that would be great

>>2805088
Should have clarified, I think they'll announce a major redo but it won't happen until 27 or 28. They're trying to keep people tuned in and excited about the future so I think they're going to announce essentially a bunch of blue sky shit. Between Universal really eating their lunch right now, along with the overall decreases in global tourism, AND their shitty movies continuously flopping, I hear they're really getting desperate on the parks side. They've bled them dry to a point of no return and now they're flinging shit at the walls to make stockholders happy/fans happy. There's been a few positive signs for the future but as long as Jeff Vahle is in charge it's hard to get excited.

>>2804967
My person thinks that kids get stolen at Disney and doesn't want to go because of that.

>>2805002
I can't believe it lasted as long as it did. It was just blank space. I used to like that it was airconditioned but it was pretty boring in there for what you pay to get in the park.

>>2805012
Its amazing how lazy they are with their space and how many stupid decisions they made. Getting rid of the best stuff and buiding Woke DEI stuff nobody wants. I like Tiana but changing the entire Splash Mountain ride to Tiana is depressing.

>>2805013
Would Millenials flip out if they made the Tangled princess nonwhite?

first for toon lagoon

>>2805251
Kino area ngl. I think its gonna stay around for a while. The themeing seems like a bitch to remove and the rides are always popular.

>>2804775
>the ride most interlooped with the monorail track
And the peoplemover track.
sigh

>>2805319
Islands generally has great themes, except the themes have fuck all to do with each other so it’s weird. Especially since they don’t care much about sight lines.

>>2805344
>except the themes have fuck all to do with each other so it’s weird. Especially since they don’t care much about sight lines.
There are maybe 1000 people in the world who give a shit about that

>>2805344
Universals biggest problem is fit and finish. Until recently Disney was always clearly superior when it comes to that. And that's my biggest problem with toon lagoon, it always felt like it needed major updates/fresh paint etc. Still a good land though.

>>2805344
>>2805351
Yeah no one cares about sight lines that much. If the world itself looks good and is fun to be in then its fine.

>>2805349
>>2805353
Appeal to bandwagon fallacy

>>2805344
Except for Kong, they're all books of some kind. The Lighthouse at the front of the park is called the Pharos Lighthouse after the one they would have had at the Lighthouse of Alexandria.

>>2805357
This is how I feel about the topic dumby. Not appealing to anyone

>>2805359
If you had just you didn’t care it wouldn’t have been a fallacy, but what you said was that virtually everyone agrees with you, which is a fallacy. Next time avoid making a fallacy.
>>2805353
>no one cares
>>2805349
>There are maybe 1000 people in the world who give a shit about that

>>2805358
That’s incidental. They didn’t set out to make a book world. IPs are just based off of printed material.

>>2805353
I care about sightlines. They don't have to be 10000% perfect all the time but I expect some effort to conceal buildings. Again Disney used to be the very best at this until Bob got in charge. Universal was good too until they Potter came along.

>>2805361
What were you going for anon

>>2805344
The same is true for Epic as well. The themes of the non-studio parks are less focused on the IPs and more about how they're laid out (Islands with a nautical exploration theme, a central lagoon, and bridges as land transitions; Epic with a astronomical theme, isolated lands, and portals as land transitions)

>>2805370
I didn’t know which one you were but it applied to both. You applied the same fallacy after all.

https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/a-whites-only-community-could-be-coming-to-springfield-mo-area/?lv=true
>visit SDC
>get put on a watch list
>original community is in AK so you can't get around this by flying to XNA

>>2805411
You're in an extremely small contingent of wet blankets who nitpick minutiae while everyone else just has a good time.

>>2805463
see >>2805357

guys please, stop fighting. lets just talk about the greatest water ride on the planet

>>2805561
I accept your concession.

>>2805561
>>2805562
I accept your concession.

>>2805567
i wasnt arguing with you boss man, last post i made was first for toon lagoon

Went the other day and happy to report he's working again. He looks like a water-logged zombie and his neck is all fucked up and he barely emerges from the water now, but he is working. That one maintenance guy they put in charge of revamping the ride is plugging away at it.

>>2805581
nice, does he at least pop up enough for it to make sense as to why your knocked off course? universal could make some cool content just doing mini maintenance vlogs, not sure if there would be security issues from that though

>>2805567
Non-sequitur

>>2805594
>does he at least pop up enough for it to make sense as to why your knocked off course?
Yes.

>>2805596
I accept your concession.

>>2805567
>>2805596
>>2805610
Please keep gay bullshit like this in /v/ or /pol/ where it belongs. Try to keep posts here on topic and avoid petty drama, thanks.

>>2805612
Tough shit, this is the perfect forum for thoosies to duke it out

>>2805613
>duke it out

You're like two limp wristed retards engaging in a uncoordinated slap-fight. Nothing of value is being debated and the winner is just the strongest retard. We can do better

>>2805614
You lost. I graciously accept your concession.

>>2805618
Not even the guy you were arguing with. I just think, correctly, that you are gay.

>>2805610
Another non-sequitur. Looks like you’re incapable of defending Universal’s terrible sight lines.

>Six Flags’ MVP “Most Valuable Pass” Sale will take place starting the last week of July (date varies by park) and continues through Sept. 1, 2025. During that window, guests who purchase a Gold- or Prestige-tier 2026 season pass to any theme park owned by Six Flags will receive admission to all Six Flags (and former Cedar Fair) parks for 2025 and 2026 plus free parking at all parks
https://attractionsmagazine.com/six-flags-2026-season-pass-deal-all-parks-passport/

>Hulk Hogan dies the week before the WWE HHN house announcement

THE HULKAMANIACS ARE GONNA RUN WILD ON JASON AND THE TERRIFIER BROTHER

>>2805620
>>2805626
Concession still accepted.

how do i know if i’m too much of a pussy for top thrill 2

>>2805690
If you have to ask...

>>2805085
I haven’t been on X-Flight but Gatekeeper was underwhelming the first time I went on it I sat toward the inside toward the front. The ride changes depending on where you sit with the outside seats being more intense and headache inducing and the back or front row being the best, outside seat always being more intense

>>2805665
This is a pretty insane deal. Some parks like Over Georgia have been leaked as being $55. The caveat being you have to activate it there first. Knott’s and MM will cost the most but Californians can afford it and it’s just like $110

>>2805680
I won.

>>2805665
Was considering not renewing this year but this might just rope me back in, especially since I've been wanting to visit CGA before it closes

>>2805694
>Knott’s and MM will cost the most but Californians can afford it and it’s just like $110
Considering those parks are relatively close the price seems reasonable since it's exactly double the SFOG cost for two parks. I'm expecting similar for CGA and Discovery Kingdom.

>>2805665
Wtf I just bought a 2025 gold pass for $239. Did I fuck up?

>>2805703
It’s definitely reasonable. $110 for a Knott’s gold pass is currently $180 and only good through the end of 2025. The $110 gold pass that goes on sale next week is also good through the end of 2025 and all of 2026 and works at MM, CGA, DK, and every park in the chain including Cedar Point. And the water parks. Basically they’re offering a discounted season pass if you buy it months in advance, and through 9/1, throwing in a free all park pass.
>>2805704
Yes. How even had it for $239?

Epic Universe charging over double ticket price per person for "express pass" that excludes like half the rides is just mind bogglingly jewish. I can't think of anything Disney does that is *that* scummy yet people bitch and moan about LLs.
Yes I get that it's not apples to apples since EU is still so new, but I can't help but notice the blatant hypocrisy I've seen on Twitter these past months. It's sad that Universal doesn't give a fuck how miserable a typical EU day is, and they won't lower the max daily tickets.
Would much prefer just cranking the ticket prices way up so at least you can have a decent day. Right now it seems like no matter how much money you waste you won't have a good time.

I don't know if it's just my perspective or if the hype for EU on social media fizzled way down. I know passholders are still not included but still.

>>2805722
>the algorithm that was programmed by the hype over the opening isnt feeding me the same sort of videos

Gee I wonder why dumbass

is the EU expansion starting any time soon?

>>2805730
Already happening, ready to go vertical before December

>>2805730
>>2805732
A stage that will be used once then forgotten about.

You know, Super Nintendo World seems to reflect the Switch 2 very well.

>>2805690
Does watching a PoV give you a genuine chill? Are you thinking about it disproportionately and filled with more anxiety about the trip than excitement?

>>2805722
The express passes need to be expensive to not become mandatory for everyone.
If too many people buy them, people without will never be able to ride anything.

>>2805694
This depends where you are located
If you can reasonable travel between two home parks (such as MM/KBF, MA/CP or CP/KI, or GA/Dorney) this is an insane deal

>>2805698
Concession accepted.

>>2805698
>>2805821

i would like an adult swim themed land. i would enoy that. i want carl as a walk around character. infact i think i saw carl at magic kingdom last week.

So the Lion King land seems like it won't have much in it other than the ride. Looks like maybe a snack booth and a toilet block.

Really suprised they're not going all out for merchandise and food. Somewhere doing African/Tanzanian food, somewhere doing some Instagram friendly desserts and a shit load of African themed disney merch (maybe a "see it made" craft shop like the glass place in the castle.

>>2805735
It's listed as a space for seasonal events, so it wont be JUST a stage. I think Celestial is well enough thought out and in need of features that any celestial stage show wont be abandoned like the toon lagoon show.

>>2805818
Could also plan a road trip and hit multiple parks. Unless you live in the void out west where your only “home” park is Lagoon. Most of these parks are $40-$50 or more for daily tickets without deals so you only need three visits in the next 17 months to any park to come out ahead. For some it paid off after two. This includes water parks with separate admission too and the Schlitterbahns. Rumor has it they’re going to charge separately for waterpark admission at parks where they’re combined

Disney killer coming to South Dakota of all places.
The airfield area looks freaking sick

>>2805722
I think absurdly priced Express is less scummy than a fairly priced one. In one case, rich people get to skip the line, which sucks, but in the other case, every single retard in the park is basically paying a "skip 20 minutes sometimes" tax. I never buy Express or FastPass, so having a handful of people get in line before me is far more tolerable than a sea of people who spent $15-$20. In an ideal world, nobody would get to skip the line, but we all know that world is never coming back.

>>2805857
>Disney killer
Sure anon

>>2805857
>south dakota

I mean I get trying to build a tourism industry in a cattle ranching state but goddamn is that gonna be a steep climb

>>2805863
It's not going to happen. These new parks get pitched every so often and often they're elaborate embezzlement scams.

>>2805857
Shades of "The London Resort" concept art unfortunately. Going to be explaining my feelings badly but it looks like someone just painting a theme park on vague specs rather than a real design. The weird log flume layout. A classic "big dipper" layout rather than a modern GCI or RMC. Only two coasters, one of which has a really tiny layout.

As the other Anon said, investors will stump up the cash, there'll be a building full of people on lucrative money, putting out the occasional bit of art, talking about partnerships with IP companies and of course every time they get to the meaningful building stage, something will happen that means they have to go back to the drawing board.

>>2805857
Literally zero percent chance this ever happens lol

>>2805821
I won.

>>2805846
If they scrap all Celestial Park shows in the previews, why do you expect these shows to last more than a year?

>>2805718
I meant all parks pass actually. I got that for $233. Already used on two Six Flags parks, going to use it again on the two Ohio Cedar Fair parks in August. Then probably SFOG later this year.

>>2805878
Cause they were scrapped for it.

>>2805788
I don’t watch POVs. I have this weird thing where my fear of falling grows back in between park visits. I’ll often want to “warm up” with a shorter roller coaster before going for the taller rides. I’ll be really scared about the “intimidation” part of a dive coaster (when it’s slow at the top and then hangs you there a few seconds), but later I’ll be in the front row indifferent to that. Shit, sometimes it’ll grow back in minutes. I rode El Toro twice and STILL felt nervous sitting in the front row 10 minutes later.

The difference with Top Thrill 2 is that it’s TWICE as tall as any other coaster I’ve done. The closest I’ve ridden to it is Xcelerator which is half the height.

These things are a total gamechanger. I didn't get that 4pm exhaustion and crushed my personal steps record walking around 20 miles in the florida sun. Hugely recommend. Basically turns you into a camel.

>>2805882
What happened to all the refridgerated water fountains in Florida parks? Now you just always get warm or sometimes actively hot water. sure when I went in the late 90s you'd always get cooled water.

>>2805873
There was nothing to win.

>>2805881
I rode TT2 last month and a week later rode Possessed, an Intamin Impulse inverted shuttle coaster at Dorney. Possessed is less than half the height but maybe because of the invert position it was more “exciting” on the reverse vertical spike being pulled down than TT2. TT2’s height isn’t really a factor when you’re on it, you probably won’t notice. First launch only goes halfway up and backwards, backwards launch goes up so fast and you don’t see it since you’re backwards. The final launch is awesome and you go up and over the spike so fast you can’t even process it. The twist downwards also messes with your brain and you don’t even get any stomach drop because of it. It’s amazing, one of the best coaster experiences there is.

What is the most likely expansion they’re making to SNW.

>>2805883
Just run them for an extra 15 seconds. The pipes get warm and you need the cool water to flow.

>>2805889
A strip club where birdo sucks your dick for $10

>>2805857
At least the money laundering scheme in Oklahoma had original ideas. This is literally just a copypaste of Disney's America right down to the airfield and state fair areas.

>>2805857
>South Dakota where it is closed half the year and no one is there
lol no
At least the Oklahoma scam was in a somewhat reasonable location

>>2805891
Anon, this isn’t Epcot.

>>2805884
I won.

>one of the biggest tourist cities in the country
>experiencing record growth in both business and population
>major hub for music, movies, etc
>no theme park
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR GIVE ME BACK OPRYLAND REEEEEE

>>2805895
>>2805905
The Black Hills have an actual tourism industry versus middle of nowhere Oklahoma.

>>2805928
Not only is there no theme park, but the closest decent one is Holiday World in Indiana. How’d that happen?

>>2805939
Dollywood is what most of >us consider to be our home park but it's 3 1/2 hours away. It's a world class park at least but with how much tourism this city has it really needs a park and would be an absolute cash cow. ALLEGEDLY Nate Bargatze of all people is planning on building one here LMAO

>>2805948
I figured that but then I realized Dollywood was 3.5 hours away. Also Dollywood didn’t become world class until recently. I guess you could argue the same thing for Nashville itself though.

>>2805939
Holiday World and Kentucky Kingdom. Honestly 2-2.5 hours ain’t bad at all. Anything 3 and over is a special occasion reserved for once a year or so. But 2-2.5 is fine. Not that either park is great but Herschend’s put some love in to KK and Holiday World had Voyage and Thunderbird and free soda and sunscreen

>>2805963
That’s 5 hours round trip. Most wouldn’t want to do that in a day. I thought it was rare for a major metro not to have any notable amusement parks but apparently it isn’t - Phoenix, Miami, Columbus, Indianapolis, Vegas, Seattle, Portland, Detroit, and Austin apparently have none either, and they’re all bigger than the Nashville metro.

>>2805971
**within an hour and a half of driving

>>2805971
Don't forget about Houston. RIP Astroworld

>>2805990
I did forget about them.

Why don’t new theme parks get built anymore in the US, besides Epic? Is the market considered saturated?

hop in dude

>>2806006
can't wait for the anti-ev schizos to make a big deal out of this

I am absolutely baffled by the main attractions of Super Nintendo World. Mainly for how confused their designs are.

>>2806019
Is this just a fancy way of saying that you wish Mario Kart was fast?

>>2805884
I won.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/disney-comcast-theme-park-epic-universe-disney-world-1236326136/

To all the disneyfags who were trying to claim that Universal and Disney aren't competing since Epic was planned, the business and mainstream media is starting to talk about this very frequently lately. Theme Park Wars is a real thing and it's here to stay for at least most of the rest of your life. So i guess it sucks to be you if you happen to be a dedicated disney shill/pixie duster/disney supremacist knowing that at least half the market is on the side of the competitor..

We're going to close Space Mountain and replace it with a motion simulator based on Elio. And you have to like it because Walt said Disneyland is never finished.

>>2806062
>stock price is the same as 10 years ago
Why is he allowed to do this?

>this monday
>2 nights at disney port orleans riverside
>check-in day animal kingdom for the first time and relaxing at resort
>day 2 EPCOT for the first time
>check-out day, park at transportation center, monorail to epcot, finish day at magic kingdom, then drive home that night

My main question is how worth it is the hotel guest early admission perk for getting on cosmic rewind and avatar stuff? I want a chill laidback trip. If camping at the gates isn't that helpful I'd rather not do it. Also is Test track on any kind of virtual queue?

>>2806060
>mfw my entire family was Team Universal from day 1

I always believed.

>>2806130
>cosmic rewind
isnt cosmic rewind still virtual queue?

>>2806152
No it has a standby. 85 minute wait as of right now.

>>2806130
Rope dropping Cosmic Rewind with early admission is absolutely worth it. You can get in with a 20-30 minute weight at most. After the park opens it jacks up to 90 and stays there a while, later going down as low as 60.

>Great Adventure coaster delayed to 2027 and Holiday in the Park cancelled
FUCKING LOL IT’S OVER FOR THIS SHITHOLE

>>2806036
No. I’m saying I’m very confused on these rides and their developments since they’re low capacity, use very elaborate low-capacity ride vehicles that take a massive damper on the attraction space (and require constant maintenance for the interaction gimmick), with all them having some massive issues.
Despite Yoshi’s being so small, it’s basically a heat death trap that should’ve been covered up. Mario Kart in general is very confused on its direction with Nintendo going against it so much that I’m surprised they didn’t resort to using Odyssey or Galaxy to get the Mario thrill attraction they’ve originally wanted or go for Luigi’s Mansion with how the attraction was evolving into.
Minecart Madness being the way it is has the most amount of theming in a Universal coaster but it honestly should’ve been scrapped for how rough it is for ADULTS alone, the limitations it has as a coaster because of its awkward format, and the difficult issues on it managing to have even lower capacity than Mario Kart.

I would rather have two great rides with capacities higher than 1500 than three small questionable attractions with capacities over a 1000.

>>2806130
Port Orleans still has so much soul. Hopefully Disney doesn't ruin it.

Just get up early in the morning and knock out TT and CR and after that you can chill. Everything else at Epcot should be relatively easy to get on. Also go to Space 220, I really like it.

>>2806220
>I’m surprised they didn’t resort to using Odyssey or Galaxy

I know what you are

>>2806218
It's honestly shocking to see how fast a park can nosedive after some changes.
Witnessing this should be making disneyfags increasingly nervous as they continue gutting the nostalgia and soul of the florida parks while simultaneously waiting in the shadows of legit competition and no substantial plans to counter it..

>>2806241
>It's honestly shocking to see how fast a park can nosedive after some changes.
It really shouldn't be a shock to anyone that when a park removes several rides, including its largest one, that attendance declines.

Thinking Disney must open a new park to "compete" with Universal Orlando is cope though. They are doing nothing and still winning.

>>2805612
Its a guy who really is a troll. He hates theme parks so he comes he to stir up stuff and harass people.

>>2806243
>BTMR closed until sometime next year
>half the park walled off for 3+ years
>no railroad for 4+ years
>splash mountain is gone and tiana is trash
>country bear reboot is soulless and gay
>the current attractions lineup is half filler and the e-tickets are all being neutered of their souls
>new parade is gay and sucks, there is hardly any entertainment at the park and the magic is gone from everything
>blacks and hispanics taking over as the primary clientele
>social media brimming with fighting and arrests footage
>drunk assholes everywhere, soon to be at magic kingdom
>woke disney shit in their movies and media and men in princess drag serving your children $70 slop
>you need to take out a loan and sell a kidney to even take your annoying ungrateful family there in the first place
>the experience sucks and you can't wait for it to be over and go home

this stuff is only starting at MK, but has been going on at the other parks for years now and its the reason attendance is declining at all of them, and will soon to be declining at the castle park.
Also what Disney doesn't want anyone to know is that the resorts are declining in attendance which is causing their profit earnings to drop vs. operational revenue.
MK attendance is the only thing floating the entire resort and all parks. And the current trajectory is that it will inevitably decline in the very near future due to many horrible choices being made the past few years and now.

>>2803593 (OP)
Does anyone know tips for the After Party or Mickey's Not So Scary?

The latter has more parades and character greets, they have longer hours and more candy. They're also slightly cheaper. The first has mickey Popsicles and ice cream bars and a less party but more adult ride. The focus is short wait times.

Which of the parks have the best After party? Is Epcots good?

Is it better to arrive early? How annoying will hopping on the monorail be for waiting in line? How to handle night time heat?

>>2806247
This. It really says it all. Is there a way to fix what liberals are doing to the brand?

>>2806247
>its the reason attendance is declining at all of them, and will soon to be declining at the castle park
This is what I mean by cope. I don't even like WDW, but it still attracts millions more guests annually than UOR.

>>2806247
Do you think deportations will fix the Hispanic problem? There really are too many. I can understand 1 or 2 but this is literally replacement.

>>2806248
I should add that I don't care much for anything except short wait times.

>>2806241
Disney actually has rides people want to go on, and the eternal audience of girls who want to be a princess. GA is the definite example of a park decline in just half a decade of bad management but Disney will never be this level bad
>>2806243
This, a new park is 2040s at the earliest and even then it likely isn't happening if there is not demand.
They need to build up and maintain the current four parks, lots of expansion land left and they have large potential areas just rotting there from closed rides

>>2806255
I'm not excited about thier new park. Disney is not the genius they used to be.

>>2806256
>I'm not excited about thier new park.
What new park, fucking Muzzieland in UAE?
No one is excited for that

>>2806255
>lots of expansion land
but they don't expand shit, they only replace existing attractions with things that are objectively worse by comparison to what was there before. they actually do this not just because they need/want to maintain a higher revenue vs. operational cost, but because having few attractions is integral to maintaining their jewish schemes of getting guests to keep spending while they are at the park vs. enjoying the time they already paid for with admission. in other words, they simply don't care about guest satisfaction or the value of what you paid for your vacation. they want you to shell out the money based on brand status alone, and they know enough of the population currently doesnt care if there are only a handful of rides, as long as they get their selfies and the kids get to do something other than drool like a mindless zombie on an ipad at home.
this isn't sustainable when stacked against competition however, when these same people can only afford one or the other and this is going to catch up to them if Universal continues competing, which it appears that they plan to do.
Disney is the epitome of corporate ignorance and hubris, and its only a matter of time until that catches up to them and you have to be actually retarded to think that with such thoughtless strategy and lack of foresight they are somehow infallible especially in the heat of industry competition.
Not accepting this reality is the ultimate cope, and pixie dusters have actually been that braindead to think their precious corporate entity will never be affected by anything they do or any attempt to take a share of the market away from them. With them fucking up so badly as a company in every conceivable way as of late, you really have to be a coping corporate cuck to not at least be worried if you are a disneyfag in 2025.

>>2806245
I won.

>>2806259
>their jewish schemes
>a mindless zombie
>you have to be actually retarded
>that braindead
>coping corporate cuck
>disneyfag
Very very high IQ argument, anon

>>2806225
Galaxy (Wii) and Odyssey (switch) are basically the only 3d Marios besides Mario Kart that have very distinctive look and appeal to the masses that wouldn’t blend in with the 3D World (the Wii U title) overworld. Sunshine would be a weird choice.
Despite three decades, there’s only about five original 3d platformer Mario titles (64, sunshine, Galaxy, 3d world, Odyssey) and I am not going to count Galaxy and 3D world sequels in that.

>>2806060
I hold that Universal's regional parks are the real vanguard of any theme park war. Disney has always been the biggest fish due to its place in the cultural zeitgeist. Kids know Disney long before they visit any park, and they can visit Disney parks at a younger age than Universal. If Uni can succeed in making these small family parks work, they might be able to chip away at Disney's hold on people's minds.

>>2806218
It’s sad. Great Adventure is still a top tier park even in its current state and it’s being run into the ground by the merged company for some reason. But the attendance isn’t there despite being halfway between two major cities. I don’t know how they fucked it up so bad. I widh Cedar Fair got bought by Sea World a couple years ago even with their private equity owners. This merger is going to be the death of their parks, the SF baggage is bringing them all down. I predict bankruptcy within 5 years but the good parks will live on. GAdv is a good park, it will be fine eventually but it sucks right now

>>2805971
Cedar Point is half full of people from the Detroit area. That’s a 2 to 2.5 hour drive that thousands make every day they’re open. Some people might think that’s too far but some people don’t. It’s under the 3 hour threshold. Not saying Holiday World or Kentucky Kingdom are Cedar Point. Plus some of those Detroit people spend the night. But others do just drive home at the end of the night.

>>2806266
Part of the problem is that there's so much competition nearby. What incentive does someone from Philly have to go to GA rather than Hershey this year?

>>2806268
Well, GAdv is an hour closer to Philly than Hershey.

>>2806007
making the Autopia cars EVs is gonna be a disaster with people ramming the car in front of them at the end of the ride

>>2806218
>>2806241
It takes time for a brand like disney parks to decay. They have decades of brand power and nostalgia they'd have to burn before they start to get into trouble.

>>2806271
Sir I have a solution

Who’s looking forward to Luigi’s Mansion?

Entire Six Flags board legitimately needs to get fired for what they did to Great Adventure

When I went to Universal this week I was very frequently the only person around speaking English instead of Portuguese. It's actually kinda crazy how much of their profit margin relies on South American tourism. I really think those huge crowds keep normal Americans from the parks cause it's very isolating and you feel like a stranger in your own backyard.

>>2806294
>"we have a ride that costs a million in maintenance a year"
>"let's cut corners by just tearing the damn thing down"
>immediately lose $40 million from attendance drop in the following year and at least the year after that

>>2803593 (OP)
I was talking to this very beautiful Taiwan girl at Disney. I feel embarrassed to say it but I didn't know Taiwan so she said she was just from China. I asked her about the Japanese store compared to the Chinese store and she admitted openly that Japan was better.

https://youtu.be/vQuwijgfxs8?feature=shared

>>2806257
I look at them more positively these days because of how well they treated Trump. Plus they did a great job with SeaWorld.

>>2806259
Bravo. Well said!

>>2803593 (OP)
I haven't been to the parks in years but this website said a lot of minorities are getting in fights in the parks. Back ten years ago there were zero at Disney. Has that changed?

>>2806476
Disney and Universal prices out most of that behavior. The incidents that have taken place are exceptionally rare. Worst thing you'll see 99% of the time is a generalized loudness but it's a theme park so silence isnt really expected

>>2806476
Disneyland gets the worst of it. Plus the classic toontown brawl
>the lady on the phone with the cops giving directions to goofy's house
kino

>>2806477
I saw it here:
https://youtu.be/sb15fiSiJOg?feature=shared

>>2806480
Why does California have so much of it? Don't they price them out?

>>2806476
This website loves to highlight the rarities and make it seem common, so you will see every fight that happens.
They are more common in the Six Flags parks, very rare in the Disney or Universal parks. That is why when there is a Disney fight once every half decade it is a big deal and the entire country laughs at them

>>2806483
Ok good. I wish there were more places like it used to be where people can feel safe and happy.

>>2806483
>hat is why when there is a Disney fight once every half decade it is a big deal and the entire country laughs at them
Physical altercations happen all the time at theme parks, Disney, Universal, Six Flags, and all the others. Most of the time it's not a full on brawl with multiple people, it's pushing and shoving or a fistfight between two people. Often it's over quickly. It's not newsworthy or even blogworthy so you don't think about it.

>>2806296
Confirmation bias for /pol/ types
They usually are in large groups together so if you are in the same area you feel outnumbered, and you remember that more then anywhere else in the parks where they are far the minority. Know that because I have had the same thing happen, but know domestic is almost all their audience.
Don't know why they are always in groups, assume it lowers the cost and to them the idea of being rich enough to travel to America and going to Disney means they made it

>>2806296
Brazil is a massive nation with a huge amount of people. Only the very rich ones go, which is still a large amount of people. The kids are taught its ok to STEAL. And the adults are liars who are very privileged, arrogant, and entitled.

>>2803593 (OP)
The contemporary used to look like a slick, high tech luxury bachelor pad with dark marble, fireplace, and brown woods for furniture.
Now it's a generic bright McDonald's colored room with a few cheap character prints.
https://youtu.be/tjvUiQXLFps?feature=shared

>>2806476
>>2806477
>>2806480
>>2806483
>>2806484
Clearly you guys aren't seeing the hundreds of police bodycam videos out there. The fact that there is even a somewhat frequent amount of videos captured by bystanders/other guests should tell you how frequent these incidents occur. There is likely at least one physical altercation or illegal activity committed by minorities at least at one of the Orlando parks every single day.
Universal probably has more incidents where a guest, most often brown is aggressive to a team member and gets trespassed whereas at Disney you more frequently see videos where security stops a black from trying to sneak drugs or weapons into one of the parks, most frequently at Magic Kingdom.
General fighting seems to occur most frequently at the Disney resorts and most often between drunk white tourists.
The vast majority of incidents across all the parks are involving what appear to be Florida locals aka blacks and hispanics.
It blows me away that they have the ability to price out these crowds but they choose to actually invite them there with Florida resident discounts. This is the heart of the problem for sure, especially at Epcot where groups of local minorities are everywhere and it's becoming a major issue.
Security is also not nearly as thorough at Disney as it is at Universal where they have the airport style check of all loose items as well as facial recognition tech. So they really are dumb at Disney for bringing all this alcohol to the parks and being comparatively lax on screening these people. At Universal if a group of them comes in wearing t-shirts that say "Drinking Around the World 2025" or w/e they have the identities of the group already sorted out when they come into the park which makes the ability to take them down if something should occur 10x the efficacy of Disney who just lets large groups of these "people" into their parks with no accountability attached until after something pops off which isn't good.

>>2806503
It went for that turquoise and orange generic 60s retro look that I'm tired of

>>2806506
But *I'm* priced out of the Fl Resident discounts. It's because employees are bringing thier family for free or they must have fake Mickey tickets somehow.

>>2806506
Universal has wayy more anti-white minorities and the facial recognition is like China. Absolutely disgusting.

WDW has unbeatable magic and customer service comparatively. They're riding on stuff that was implemented in the past with Walt, before libs destroyed it.

>>2806506
>Security is also not nearly as thorough at Disney as it is at Universal where they have the airport style check of all loose items as well as facial recognition tech
I imagine Disney had facial recognition to some degree. Just because they've never disclosed it doesn't mean they don't have it.

No but unironically why would I go back to six flags great adventure when they just demolished the best and record breaking roller-coaster?

They would rename to six flags mid adventure.

>>2806503
https://youtu.be/9xWOu84qDQ0?feature=shared

I find it strange that Super Nintendo world that just opened in Orlando still uses the rare design for donkey kong

>>2806518
Bright sun always comes across as a rich picky asshole even if he makes valid points

>>2806531
I basically don't watch any "mainstream"/large youtube channels, including that one. The larger the audience is, the more surface level the content will be.

>>2806531
I feel like if you're reviewing a hotel as expensive as Disney's deluxe resorts, you should be a rich picky asshole.

>>2806506
>>2806511
I've gone to Universal upwards of 80 times over the last 4 years and never once have I encountered anything that I would describe as hoodlum behavior and I walk around 17 miles when I'm there so I see a lot. Black teens can be a bit rambunctious, but I don't really care if people talk or yell on the rides cause that's part of it. Even with the FL Resident discount you are spending a lot of money to get in and that prices out that lower percentile that causes most issues. I've seen dozens of incidences where wealthy white boomer tourists are verbally tearing into some poor TM over some dumb bullshit like not having merch in stock, a line for beer, or passes not scanning. I've seen sluts get turned away at the security plaza for showing up with half their ass hanging out.

The overwhelming majority of people there are not gonna risk getting thrown out, though. The "crime" I see people get scolded for most is smoking or vaping in the park, but vapers run the race spectrum and white teens are some of the worst offenders especially at HHN.

E.T. didn’t fucking say my name AGAIN RRRRREEEEEEEEE

>>2806517
If you are in the area it is the closest park to NYC/Philly by far, and has a few solid rides still. That and the price and no crowds anymore is all it is worth, everything else is absolutely terrible now even before accounting what they tore down
Where I think they went wrong in the board meetings is thinking that no one really traveled here just for tallest/fastest coaster because of ridership (when most of those who rode it even once came here just for that) and because it has the best location they can cut everything and give shit service and people will still come because it is near NYC and no one is "truly" competing with them.
The finally found the max they can cut before people stop going or take an extra hour drive to Hershey just because it is better. They spreadsheeted out saving 1 million in maintenance tearing it down but lost at least 10 million this year based off this move if not more

>>2806550
>They spreadsheeted out saving 1 million in maintenance tearing it down but lost at least 10 million this year based off this move if not more
Yeah anon, executives would have never considered that

>>2806294
It’s probably going to get worse. The rumor mill is saying Wild Safari is going to close next year. Along with the glamping resort they just opened last year (or was it the year before?). If that’s true, why not just close the fucking park down and sell the land? My guess is their 2025 attendance will be around 2 million and possibly even less. Less than half of what it used to be. They’re going to have to operate the park with this attendance target going forward and try to re-develop it into something that can hopefully increase it. It’s still a good park but that’s a massive attendance collapse

>>2806556
Executives usually are brainless over their own company and too busy golfing or some shit. They don't run the numbers, they hire people and trust them. And they can be wrong or don't have the social cues to understand what impact they might have with actual guests.
>>2806561
I do not think they will close the safari as they are close to full attendance collapse and that would be suicidal, they would need some semblance of attractions now. This offseason I am predicting they lose Swashbuckler (hasn't opened all year which is a usual sign of death) and the log flume (apparently had an accident during testing a month ago they wont announce and has not opened since, and the old log flumes are all going out). Nothing will replace either.

>>2806567
>Executives usually are brainless over their own company and too busy golfing or some shit.
Can't wait for school to start again

>>2806568
Because Six Flags has never gone bankrupt, execs are always on top of everything

>>2805690
This isn’t going to help but I rode top thrill 2 today and holy shit was it rattling badly. I don’t know if it was the train or the seat. I forgot which train, seat was next to last row. Don’t know if it’s a wheel seat. Could feel it rattling really badly when it went backwards and up the spike then down all the way up and down the top hat. Even some guy in front of me said he thought we were going to fall out.

I did stare at the top hat for a few mins because it never stopped swaying and that probably has something to do with it. It would sway noticeably every time a train went up it, especially the 3rd launch. And it never stopped before they sent another train. Contrast this with my last ride which was smooth and amazing, but today was kind of terrifying

>>2806571
The industry has always run on thin margins in a boom-bust cycle that is highly dependent on the overall health of the economy. CF and Busch weren't in much better financial shape. Your ire should be directed at shareholders, that's ultimately who controls the company. Executives are beholden to them. They demand blood from a stone and then some, they are the ultimate short term thinkers.

The only multi-park operator I know of that hasn't declared bankruptcy in the last couple of decades is Herschend, but their portfolio is the smallest and they're privately owned, so they don't have shareholders to pay dividends to every few months.

>>2806567
Neither of those closures would be surprising but they’ve closed way too much in the last 2 years. They could add some flats to mitigate loss but they won’t. Corporate probably sees it as a 2 million visitor park with too many attractions to operate for that level of attendance.

>>2806575
CF wasn’t in good shape but their parks were better before the merger. Most of the legacy SF parks have seen CF-esque improvements but the merger has dragged the legacy CF parks down. Cash cows like Cedar Point, Canada’s Wonderland, and Knott’s Berry Farm deserve better but they’ve all had SF cuts too and now have to carry the entire 40+ park chain. That’s too many parks. I almost think Sea World acquiring CF would have been better than this even with their private equity jew owners. But probably not. I wish they never merged. They have too many parks and more of them are going to close

>>2806580
>but the merger has dragged the legacy CF parks down.
It's been barely a year into the merger, whatever decline has supposedly happened at CF parks would have happened anyway. I think you're being a little too hyperbolic and those "problems" are just enthusiast nitpicking

>>2806575
>The industry has always run on thin margins in a boom-bust cycle that is highly dependent on the overall health of the economy.
Then maybe it isn't viable
>Your ire should be directed at shareholders
Shareholders give them one task which is increase stock price and generate growth in income. Execs have free reign how they decide to do so. Their actions are not immune to being shat on if the are bad

>>2806583
>Then maybe it isn't viable
It might be. Revenues are down and new rides, especially coasters, keep getting more expensive (more than just inflation).

>Execs have free reign how they decide to do so.
Shareholders control the board and they can dismiss the board if their plan isn't to their satisfaction. But their job is literally to follow the wishes of the shareholders, and they expect regular dividends being paid out. A stock buyback plan could conceivably be the answer, but I don't think they're in any position to do that and won't be for some time.

>>2806581
Maybe. But taking on even more debt and having to operate all these other parks has caused them to cut costs even more than before. They already cut entertainment (as has the entire industry) but they continue to cut it even more. They laid off all the full time employees and they cut some positions. I don’t think this would have happened, at least not yet. But who knows. Yeah some of the changes like automating midway games would have happened anyways. And last year they got rid of topping bars at most of their burger diners which was a pre merger decision. They also got rid of the homemade BBQ in favor of making all the condiments Heinz and made the food portions smaller. But this year they give you a cup of homemade BBQ sauce when you order and the portions are larger. And the big SF parks have better CF-style food options too so at least there are some positives. I’m just cranky over the merger and devaluing the product. These cheap passes are great but they devalue the gate and bring in more riff raff like line cutting negroes

>>2805971
>Phoenix
Way too hot and an extremely mid city
>Miami
Orlando isn't that far away and you go there for the beach/clubs
>Columbus
Third world shithole nobody visits that's in-between Cedar Point and Kings Island
>Indianapolis
Holiday World is relatively close by and no one goes there cause it's a shitty city
>Vegas
You go there for gambling and whores
>Seattle
Commie wasteland and if you visit it's for nature stuff outside of the city
>Portland
Same as Seattle
>Detroit
Lol
>Austin
There's multiple big parks in the state already
Nashville is way more deserving and logical than any of the places you listed for a major park.

yeah can i uh… stare at a screen for 5 minutes

>>2806601
wait that ride has no screen
shut it down
SHUT IT THE FUCK DOWN

>>2806602
I'm gonna miss your lil nigga like you wouldn't believe

>>2806598
You can’t say “they don’t deserve one there’s a good park 3-4 hours away” for all those cities and then ignore Dollywood, Holiday World and Kentucky Kingdom for Nashville. And the “people go there for other reasons” applies to Nashville too. The purpose isn’t necessarily for tourists, but for the locals to have somewhere to go. Even Birmingham tried with Visionland.

>>2806604
>Visionland
It's been a long time since I've heard that name

>>2806607
I call it that to this day. Sure rolls off the tongue better than Alabama Adventure and Splash Adventure.

>finally lose 60 pounds and can go on any ride.
>don't feel like going to the amusement park anymore
Sad.

>>2806602
I'm sad cause my Orlando trip isn't until November. Luckily I got to ride it 15 years ago, think my choice of song was a Metallica.

Watching Rollercoaster videos has got me interested but I'm stuck in austria so I've nothing interesting here. What's a park in europe that easily accessible and has lots of good rollercoasters?

>>2806705
Not sure what’s accessible to you, but Germany has Europa Park, Phantasialand and Holiday Park, while Poland has Energylandia.

>>2806710
How do you get to the best European parks from burgerland? Is it just close airport + rental car or do some have some good public transport from the airports that’s worth it?

I'm spending 3/4 days in Paris, is it worth budgeting a day for Disneyland?

>>2806601
>>2806602
Are you ready for Luigi’s screen mansion?

>>2806738
I mean... do you want to go to Disneyland? If you're a fan the classic BTM, POTC and Haunted Mansion, it's got the best version of all three and some neat shows but it lacks in modern E-tickets. It's about 1.5-2 days to 100% it and there's a huge amount of building work being done.

>>2806738
Yeah cause it's better than getting stabbed by a muslim in Paris

>>2806760
It's so sad what has happened to Paris. The best city in the world.
>>2806506
Its crazy because even ten years ago Disney had zero minorities. I feel like they had some secret way of keeping them out.

>>2803593 (OP)
Absolutely perfect night at After Hours Epcot. Quiet, muted, soft lights, very relaxed Florida Adult Educator vibe. Got on all the rides. Free popcorn and adorb Mickey pops.

>>2806774
>It’s crazy because even ten years ago Disney had zero minorities. I feel like they had some secret way of keeping them out.
This has never been true probably in your entire life time. When I was a kid in the 80s I remember blacks line cutting. My dad wouldn’t let line cutters pass and they were stepping on our feet trying to wiggle past us. All black. There were always Brazilian tour groups. When I worked there over 20 years ago the guest and the employees were all the colors of the brown rainbow. Lots of black cast members too and most of the CMs were gay. Before it was Disney Springs, Downtown Disney got them in trouble for racially profiling blacks… but rightfully so. They would just hang out and harass people. Orlando has always been high crime and Disney borders some rough neighborhood. Reams road to the MK cast lot is full of low income subsidized apartments full of drugs and crime. Universal is also surrounded by some rough areas, especially where Wet n Wild used to be (where they built those cheap hotels)

Did Animal kingdom for the first time today. The "half-day park" meme is probably a bit exaggerated in my opinion. I rope dropped with resort guests and got pretty much every big ride done before 10pm. I left by noon. However thats me being alone and being really early and basically only doing the rides. If you couldnt be there at like 6:30 am at the latest i can't imagine the rope drop saving enough. Front gate was packed. If you were a casual with kids it would definitely take til like the afteroon.

Tangent:
I spent the rest of the evening at MK and I am really disappointed in the liberty square chicken and waffle stand. Ive had the same item 3 times, basically once a year, and its gotten worse each time. This last time there was zero spice to it, they didnt give any vegetables in it, and it didnt come with the kettle chips. I won't be buying it again. Very sad. I haven't actually first-hand experienced a Disney product go downhill so fast before.

>>2806792
I’m one of the anons who uses the half day park meme. Early afternoon I would still consider a half day, and if it took you longer to ride all the rides, it’s because the lines were very long, which in turn was because there’s so little to ride there anyway.

But that’s just the rides. I’m sure there’s more to fill out the day if you like looking at animals. I for one do not care about doing that at all, not even a little bit. But for those that do there’s probably a full day of stuff to do. I guess, I don’t know.

>>2806776
I would imagine the blacks are better today just for not being able to afford to get in, and the ones that can afford that are probably more civilized than normal.

>>2806792
You must be a retarded zoomer if you just ride hop there. AK is arguably the most beautiful park in the world with really good shows and tons of "edutainment". Not the parks fault you're a retard with no attention span.

>>2806851
>AK is arguably the most beautiful park in the world
Is it though?

>>2806776
In the late 90s Brazillians were the big menace, you learnt to fear those little flags. Wasn't until the 2010s when they really clamped down on those tour groups

>>2806873
There are a load of beautiful parks out there

>>2803593 (OP)
https://youtu.be/8y0hC4FH-aY?feature=shared
>>2806568
Its a whole month before those kids finally go back to their indoctrination centers. :'(

>>2806851
It’s a beautiful park with not much to do that should be $50 instead of $150. I also agree with >>2806880 in that there are a lot of beautiful parks out there. They get overlooked because they don’t have multi-billion dollar budgets or exist at the largest tourist destination in the world. If you show up in the afternoon and spend all day in line that’s your fault, you can rope drop and be done with everything in the early afternoon.

>>2806836
Well they’re not, they haven’t all of a sudden evolved in the last 30 years. They can afford it more than ever being that you can exchange EBT for Disney gift cards and use those gift cards for tickets

>>2806550
GAdv’s attendance has been declining every year for the past few years. Even while Ka was operating. The economy and inflation have impacted attendance for the entire industry. Also SF introduced chaperone policies last year which keeps out all those undesirable teens who annoy everybody and drink out of water cups and don’t spend any money. Speaking of water cups none of these parks are interested in the water drinking guests who eat sandwiches in their car and don’t spend any more money than admission. They don’t want them there

>>2806923
>Speaking of water cups none of these parks are interested in the water drinking guests who eat sandwiches in their car and don’t spend any more money than admission.
Literally me. I don't care how good or bad theme park food is, it's still overpriced and I go offsite to eat. I don't buy the value cup with free refills or whatever they're called. I don't buy merch. I don't buy on-ride photos. I don't rent lockers. I don't play boardwalk games and I don't go on upcharge attractions. And yes, I do expect consistently good operations.

>>2806928
When I was younger and had no money I would pack a cooler with food and drinks but if these parks had the free refill drink cups and all day dining I would have bought one and shared them with my now wife. But even back then we would still eat or snack and buy a couple drinks, packing the cooler was just to supplement this. Eating at an offsite restaurant wasn’t something we did much because it wastes a lot of time.

I will say that the water cup people annoy me. Cedar Point has fancy drinking fountains for refilling water bottles but people still hog the drink cup line to ask for a small water cup. Blacks will put soda in them. When I was at Cedar Point the other day there was this entire family asking for water cups and they looked autistic and dysgenic as fuck and they blocked the exit waiting for their fucking water. Where applicable by law they should really just refuse to give them cups (or charge money for them) and force them to use the drinking fountains.

>>2806879
They’re still there and they still have their flags. You only see them in June and July. Maybe some in early August. There should be some there right now. I was told by a Hispanic Disney employee that these Brazilians are all rich and spoiled.

>>2803593 (OP)
This is Brazil.

>>2806792
>zero spice
Thats what makes Disney good. It's all American white in every way including food

>>2806921
Ok that's gotta be it.

>>2806923
This was actually one of the big fuckups of Disneyland Paris when it opened.

The French liked taking packed lunches to theme parks but Disney wanted them to spend all their money in the parks so they didn't build any picnic areas and banned guests from bringing food into the park. It not only hurt visitor numbers but also they found that French visitors spent next to nothing in the park and bought the cheapest lowest margin food offerings. Was just a little thing but it flagged to the French that they were being ripped off and as a result they became massively conscious about how much they spent. Disney relented and built a picnic area in front of the park and allow small amounts of food and drink in.

>>2806920
Disney relying purely on queue times to make their parks full day has always been sinister.

When I last went, I did the extra magic (half) hour rope drop and did Flights of Passage, river adventure, Expedition Everest (twice) In the first hour. Longest queue was the safari at 35 minutes or so (thank fuck they got rid of that shitty poacher section and just made it purely about the animals). By the afternoon we were doing re-rides.

>>2806921
I've been trying to look this up to see if it's real and I cant find anything indicating you can use EBT to get into the park. Where are you seeing this?

>>2806990
You can exchange EBT for almost anything. It's highly illegal and you have to find a disreputable place of business that will take EBT debitures and give you cash or other goods for it. The exchange rate is unbelievably bad but it happens

https://www.newson6.com/story/68880500f3c53d6dfe7f1cd6/investor-alleges-fraud-in-american-heartland-theme-park-project
>God's divine message is to invest in this amusement park in Oklahoma
How the fuck did this boomer fag manage to get 60 million dollars if he is this retarded

>>2807033
>Die
>Go to the pearly gates.
>Expect St. Peter to judge you based on your sins.
>Instead, he starts going through your coaster credits.

>>2807002
It’s illegal yet it’s how, during and after covid, all those nogs started showing up at chain restaurants and hotels where you didn’t see them before. That’s died down because pandemic EBT is finally gone but it was still around two years ago. They were using it for beer and liquor and posting tik toks about it too. Also highly illegal but it was happening.

>>2806921
It’s not about evolution, it’s about selection bias. Increasing prices reduces the number of poor (and therefore less civilized) blacks from attending. That’s just math, unless you have some substantiation for your EBT claim.

>>2806923
>1 hour from Philadelphia
>1.5 hours from NYC
I feel like you have to be trying to fail to not succeed in that location.

>>2806978
I thought you were allowed to bring food into Disney. I sure did. It was just almonds and beef jerky and protein bars but still. Are you not allowed to bring food? Or is just coolers or something?

>>2806792
>basically only doing the rides
aka the worst part of the park. it's the only disney park that actually feels like a "park", you didn't finish the park if you skipped the jungle trek

>>2806738
Yes but I am not kidding just skip studios and then go back to paris, the rides at the castle park are worth it though if you are autistic enough to about theme parks to even post here

>>2806920
I feel like they think putting AK at a discount would be admitting it’s less good and they wouldn’t do that. MK is the most expensive but only by a little bit.
>>2806981
Fuck you the poacher section was kino. They had a fucking bridge break with the vehicle on it and float toward a waterfall. Now you just look at animals lying around.

>>2807099
Their attendance might have rebounded after covid if they didn’t raise prices by 33% in 2022. El Toro derailing twice because of poor maintenance didn’t help. After Candymonium and Wildcat’s Revenge opened at Hershey, there were probably a lot of membership/passholder turnovers from people in between them. Their peak attendance the past couple years has been 2.4 million which is a million less than pre-covid. This season is a disaster though. Economy and ride closure bad press. They needed to reduce their number of rides and operations but removing Ka without warning was like shooting themselves in both feet

>>2807099
This positioning does have the unintended side-effect of encouraging people from outside the city to stay away.

I think the construct set we see between potter and Berk is meant to be pieces of a SNW attraction/building or possibly celestial park.

>>2807099
There is so much to do in and between NYC and Philly, so it's competing with pretty much anything else in the world you'd want to do.

>>2806981
>thank fuck they got rid of that shitty poacher section
Lol they took the part of nature documentaries that everyone loathes (when they complain human activities) and combined them into the river rapids and that

They really should remove the logging section from the water ride (can't remember its name). The entire ride looks great then there's this loud, ugly section that's just a bummer

>>2807119
Are you referring to urban youths?
>>2807113
I’m pretty ignorant about this but I don’t see why they never went the opposite direction - make it a can’t miss park knowing you have the necessary population nearby to fund it.
>>2807133
See above, that’s all the more reason to go all out. If Cedar Point was in New Jersey, you don’t think that could work? For more evidence, Magic Mountain competes with the beach, the mountains, national parks, a bunch of sports teams, clubs, a ton of other theme parks, Vegas not too far away, yet it still wins because it has a great lineup. Great America having just an okay lineup is just asking to be ignored for everything else NYC and Philly have to offer.

>>2807149
>If Cedar Point was in New Jersey, you don’t think that could work?
That's what SFI was positioning the park to be, but the wheels came off at some point. There are also other parks in the region that compete with SFNJ.

>yet it still wins because it has a great lineup
It's the shittiest of the Socal parks and the least attended of them. It does get points for being open year round, unlike any northeastern park.

>>2807136
>you cant just showcase the horrors of deforestation

We're losing something as a culture

>>2807155
Fuck them animals. Make the ride pretty

>>2807156
Post hands

>>2807136
>>2807155
Are you talking about the river rapids ride?

>>2803593 (OP)
Pray for Japan right now. Possible huge Tsunami headed towards them. Not sure if they'll shut down the parks.

>>2803593 (OP)
I find Disney highly therapeutic. I've been watching stuff to try to understand why.

>>2807248
Pretty basic, isn’t it? They’ve mastered nostalgia. Everyone watches Disney movies and hopefully goes to a Disney park as a kid. The main parks themselves are built for nostalgia - Main Street USA freezes a small town feel, Tomorrowland is retro-futurism, Fantasyland is Disney IPs, Frontierland is the old west.

>>2807235
It was a nothingburger outside several rural regions of Russia

>>2807248
The parks are an escape from reality, even in their current state. WDW is essentially an idealized version of what most people think America should look like. Incredibly clean, no bums, limited amounts of minorites, it offers a real escape. Not saying it's not childish and gay to be autistic about the parks but I get why people are. I personally just choose to hide my power levels so I don't reveal myself to be a Disney adult fag.

>>2807318
To me, Disney adults are distinct from Theme Park fans. Disney Adults are the types of people that get emotional hugging some poor college student portraying a costumed character despite being 35 with no children.

Just enjoying theme parks, rides, shows, nice areas free from the scum of society doesn't mean you are a Disney adult.

>>2807321
Yeah I guess that's true. Disney adults are a special kind of faggy. I personally ignore all meet and greets and most parades for that matter. When my kids get a little older and I take them that'll obviously change because they'll want to meet Mickey etc, but I enjoy the ambiance and sights/sounds/rides/designs more than anything.

>>2807331
Dont sleep on the parades. The parades are a pretty chill way to wind down late in the day and always a big hit if you love bringing friends to the park like I do. Universal Mardi Gras early in the spring when it gets dark at 6pm is GOATED

https://youtu.be/wvlwWiV8fBU

The queen of has spoken.

>new wall blocking water treatment employees from looking at the roller coaster
>Italy and Mexico (food) are coming to Celestial
>Celestial expansion is not really an expansion. Just an area for private events/seasonal shit/Corporate jerking off
>Paris has two built but not operational merchandise stores that will open later
>Two new design firms are contracted for "phase 2". One specializes in 3D visualizations of blueprints, the other is American Scenic Design which does blue sky to schematic design. So something big is coming but most likely years away.
>Shit's on fire yo

>>2807318
>>2807321
>>2807331
"Disney adults" as the GP refer to when using the term are social mediaites & influencers who don't even get on the rides. They are AP holders who either live in Florida or have seemingly unlimited funds and days off of work to travel to Orlando multiple times per season. The average person thinks of a mega fan of the Disney company as a whole and who wears the mickey ear headbands for every visit and dresses up for dapper day.
Most people think this is the majority of Disney adults but it's actually not true.
The vast majority are "pixie dusters", a special breed of Disney adult who mainly only cares about the parks and defends Disney's every single action with the parks despite all of them being terrible ideas that are ultimately going to harm the parks.
They live in this delusional state of mind where nothing can ever happen to spoil the nostalgia kick they keep sucking out of what's left. It's eternally 1990-2003 in their heads. New stuff and changes have to be treated like it's actually something good like when the parks were good. They'll shut out any suggestion that the magic's gone because they still perceive the world like they did when they were ten years old, and believed in a magic world where you could hide from the truths of reality.
That's why most of them are basket cases with a whole theme park of mental illnesses in their brains because they've repressed all the realities of their lives by residing in WDW all the time. Even at work all they can think about is the next fix.
They are basically drug users and highly afflicted mentally. So don't fuck with what keeps them going even if it is the truth/reality involving their route of escape from modern hell/their grownup lives becoming a corporately rotted shell of it's former past. Their entire reason for living disappears of you bring them up to the current year where everything good is gone or being replaced and the company is run by blackrock and turning the frogs gay.

>>2807318
>WDW is essentially an idealized version of what most people think America should look like
Really don’t think this applies. Definitely not to Animal Kingdom or Epcot. For Magic Kingdom, it doesn’t apply to Fantasyland, Toontown or Adventureland. Tomorrowland is idealized for sure, but of the future, and not particularly American. Frontierland and Liberty Square are looks into the past. This could most closely apply to Main Street and Hollywood Studios, but those are more like rosy reflections of small town streets and Los Angeles, respectively, rather than ideals.

>>2807363
>being this wrong

>>2807376
He was referring to his idea for a planned city, not the theme park of the same name that opened 16 years after he died that had little to do with that idea. And Epcot is just one is several parks in WDW.

Back from my 3-day solo trip to Animal Kingdom and Epcot for the first time. My thoughts below:

>Animal Kingdom
Pandora was awesome but obviously neither ride deserves the waits they get. And I did both within 30 minutes. Everest yeti honestly feels smaller than I was expecting, i don't know though kinda hard to see.

>Epcot
First of all I must admit I owe Cosmic Rewind an apology. I'm the guy with a grudge against Space Mountain and thought CR was similar but they do more with the theming. The teleportation trick was cool I didn't expect it. Basically the well-done preshow saves the ride. Also I hate airtime but this ride was just under my tolerance level before I start wanting to get off, so I'd ride again.
Why does Figment get a bad rap? It was a cute ride, and again the wall-reveal was a fun surprise and added +1 to my rating. I guess it's rattly and I don't understand why it's like a coaster track.
Spaceship earth is too rattly and the descent is giga dated otherwise cool scenes.
Frozen and nemo rides are shockingly bad.
The Test Track "futuristic city" projections are eerily convincing. Especially the first one as you're coming downhill. It just looks real. "going 65 miles an hour in a car" doesn't sound as fun as it actually is.
I wasn't expecting to like Mission space (orange of course) as much as I did, rode it 3 times, weird to me that the wait time is always so low. Also do your actions affect literally anything or is it just something for kids to play along with?
Gran fiesta is a cute fun ride and since the Three Caballeros movie is genuinely one of my favorite Disney movies I appreciate that there's a presence. Ride feels just like the movie.
For some reason Living with the Land had an unluckily long wait when i rode. I didn't know that they do research there, makes it cooler.
Soarin is just a beautifully pleasant ride. Charming preshow and great music. Not to be a pussy but I almost teared up after the 2nd ride.

Part 2 with more coming up

>>2807363
I wasn't talking about individual lands retard, I was talking about the property as a whole. The parks are obviously escapes into other worlds.

>>2807382
More EPCOT:
The Chinese panoramic show was really cool I thought. It felt like watching one of those old Wonderful World of Disney segments with the narration and actor. Canada's was boring and gay. I was the only person in the theater for both of these who actually stayed til the end.
The american adventure show was great but even as an american who wants to be proud of the country it comes across too much as blatant propaganda. Even the china show wasn't that glorified. Either way I was really surprised by the quality of the animatronics on this show but the ending dragged on.

I feel like maybe I didn't eat enough throughout the days but at Epcot I ate from the fish and chips stand, the american barbecue place, and biergarten. Ate nothing at animal kingdom cause birds flocked my tray when i grabbed a fork and i felt like a retard and just threw it away and left the park.
Fish and chips place was as good as I expected it to be
American barbecue place is a hard pass next time. Horrible proportion size and value even by Disney standards and ribs sucked (got the platter).
I literally ate myself sick at biergarten, there wasn't anything I had that I didn't like (although I stayed away from stuff like liverwurst). I was surprised that it wasn't very full in there during lunch. It was like a third of the way full at most and I stayed for over an hour to watch the show. I will say that there isn't as much variety as I'm used to seeing in most buffets but what they did have you could eat several plates of. As far as recommending this place to people, I would say it's worth it if you want to linger there with friends who split the bill and you guys have a long lunch and want food that's maybe twice as expensive as a normal disney meal but about three times as good. Waste of time if you have kids. I don't drink so didn't have any of the actual beer.

After all this, I think I like Epcot more than AK or Studios and I was not expecting that. I'm a converted hater.

>>2807382
Cosmic Rewind is just a really well designed coaster and deserves a bunch of credit for how it manages the airtime. It's not severe enough to give you that "losing your stomach" feeling and just as it starts to make feel completely out of control, it stops. Also you learn that all the airtime/weightless sections happen after a sudden upward section so riders expect it and can brace. Perfect for a family coaster.

The Nemo ride was always a lazy cash in, adding screens to an existing omni mover designed to take you inside the aqaurium.

I wish paris was getting the Tokyo Frozen ride and not the Epcot one, the Tokyo one is really good

I'm glad I'm not so obsessed with Disney that I can enjoy any theme or amusement park I go to and don't have to resort to obsessing over a single company's product like a consoomer

>>2807382
“Shockingly bad” was the exact phrase I used to describe Nemo. I can kind of see that getting a pass in 2007 but not in 2025, and certainly it in its current state (I’m assuming they haven’t maintained it well).

I don’t mind Frozen though.

>>2807396
It's just a vehicle for getting to the Seas. Really not that big of a deal if you ask me. It's fine for kids and there's usually never a wait at all.

>>2807387
>people think America should look like a chain of amusement parks and hotels with only one company to work for
Hopefully they don’f.

>>2807397
>It's just a vehicle for getting to the Seas
I didn’t know that. It looked like a normal ride.
>It's fine for kids
“A family ride that can only be enjoyed by children isn’t a good family ride in the slightest.” -C.S. Lewis

>>2807391
What do you think of the audio for Cosmic Rewind?

Another aspect of my trip I forgot to mention was my staying in Port Orleans Riverside
Honestly all the benefits over an All-Star that I personally noted were: everything being a little bit cleaner, having a minifridge, and boat access to Disney Springs. I almost don't see the point in getting a preferred room like I did either, since Riverside has 4 stops and preferred buildings are the last to get dropped off so kind of irritating coming back at night after a long day. Didn't try boatwrights cause I guess it has a lukewarm reputation.
Thinking about it I do suppose Riverside has a better bus situation than the All stars if you were far away from the lobby at either resort. At riverside you could be far from the lobby but close to a bus stop, can't have that at the All stars. But honestly just get a preferred room at the all stars.

>>2807397
Yes nemo drops you off in the aquarium and includes views into the aquarium as part of the ride but only near the end. I thought the whole ride was supposed to be more integrated into the aquarium. I guess I was expecting something closer to the sub ride in California.

Great news everybody!
Disney World and Universal are going to be fixed very shortly!

>>2807406
>mfw will be able to understand what the people in line around me are saying again

This September, the theme park business is over.

>>2807467
meds

>>2807467
Is this the meme where people on 4chan are convinced WW3 is happening 100% for real this time in September?
All I can say is 2 more weeks

Redpill me on Holiday World. How long will I need this Sunday to do all the relevant rides? Should I make sure I have the whole day?

>>2807474
Well that’s a factor, there’s also the issue of the end times signs and the rapture coming. Every September is basically another round of will it be today or not today.

>>2807416
>>2807406
How do you recognize the Brazilians? I don’t remember any when I went. They weren’t carrying flags and I didn’t pick out any Portuguese. Tons of yuros though.

>>2807474
What is the schizo rumor going around now? Does it have something to do with that astroid?

>>2807483
An extraordinarily masterful Rosalina post

>>2807485
Anyone who annoys me at a theme park is automatically brazilian no matter what they look like or what language they speak.

>>2807382
>Why does Figment get a bad rap? It was a cute ride, and again the wall-reveal was a fun surprise and added +1 to my rating. I guess it's rattly and I don't understand why it's like a coaster track.

Because it was a 10/10 that was reduced to a 1/10 25 years ago that was quickly damage controlled up to a 5/10.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYhXa9FShoc
The ride's track was a souped up variant of the omnimover system with variable speed options, which were mostly used to sync to the carousel theater intro with the blimp, but there was also ultimately unused plans to actually have a small drop in the spooky book section. As the carousel sync was a bitch to maintain, that was a factor in the original ride's downfall with about a third of the track being covered up and unused in the current ride structure. There's actually hollow spots in the floor of the post-show area that are where the track ran through.

>>2807485
They speak Portuguese and look like Brazilian. Idk how to describe Brazilians but it's pretty obvious

>>2807494
Guess I just didn’t see any

>>2807512
for >>2807506

>>2807487
It doesn’t help that numerous people keep screaming about it happening it last year, and they’re getting very confident on this year being the one.

>>2807495
How did they fail so badly with a variable speed omni mover when Mack Rides nailed it over 30 years ago? Never known any issue with Alton Tower's Haunted House

>>2807406
UK Visitors being down and Brazil visitors being non-existent... That's their town biggest non-US groups.

>>2807486
It's some schizo theory on how multiple things have a September "deadline" date (such as government vote to release Epstein files, and "ultimatums" to Iran and Russia) and that they are going to start WW3 to prevent that or enable more government control or whatever
As always, nothing ever happens

>>2807382
>I wasn't expecting to like Mission space (orange of course) as much as I did, rode it 3 times
Mission Space is easily the most over-hated ride at Disney. It's fun as hell. Easily my favorite simulator ride anywhere. Sadly, the prompts are just a placebo for the kids.
>But what about motion sickness and claustrophobia?
Well don't fucking ride it if you suffer from those, dumbass.

>>2807565
Guess our corporate overlords will have to deal with the issue of actual Americans not wanting to attend their parks rather than mass importing millions of people with lower standards for what constitutes entertainment artificially inflating demand allowing them to keep prices at a premium. Darn

>>2807604
once us bongs figure out how to get around the ID checks to get onto the disney world ticket booking site we will be back

>>2807605
You guys are fine since you're basically just Americans with accents at this point culturally. The huehues swarm the parks twice a year and I cant understand a fucking thing they're saying.

>>2807607
>You guys are fine since you're basically just Americans with accents at this point culturally.
I wish I could refute this but unfortunately your right. Speaking of not knowing the language, how many so many of the people that work at walmart straight up dont speak english? its fuckin mental

>>2807604
>lower standards for what constitutes entertainment

Three of the lands are based off of British authors plus a Japanese one at Epic Universe, zero based on US books. Just sayin...

>>2807602
>>2807382
Mission Space was my dad's favourite ride at Epcot. It's a really unique simulator and so long as you're not stupid, you won't even know you're in a really fast spinning centrifuge. It's really hard to convince someone to go on the orange side if they get freaked out when they find out what the ride actually is.

>>2807602
>Well don't fucking ride it if you suffer from those
I mean, even though I knew how the ride system worked I was unsure of what it would feel like so I was a little bit nervous at first. Only thing that gave me a minor "oh shoot" feeling was during one of the high-G pulls the restraint clicked down even further so it was a little tighter than comfortable. I could understand a claustrophobe freaking out if that happened to them in the middle of the ride. The next rides I pushed against the restraint more so that wouldn't happen.

>>2807611
>Three of the lands are based off of British authors plus a Japanese one at Epic Universe, zero based on US books. Just sayin...
I was specifically referencing the Brazilians and other third worlders that arent super discerning, only caring about IP slop, but I could argue that America is second most responsible for the success of HP due to WB making all of the movies and Universal being an American company. Same with most things really.

The Six Flags MVP sale is up. Most parks are $95 for a gold pass. Cedar Point is $99. Knott’s is $120. Until September 2nd (I think) you get a free all parks pass that works at all their parks for the rest of this year and all of next year.

Curiously, this deal is not live for some parks. Michigan’s Adventure, Frontier City, and La Ronde aren’t advertising it and the ticket links still go to 2025 passes. CGA has it though since they’re still open next year but SFA does not since they’re closing in a few weeks. I think this is a bad sign for these parks. Start with the good news (cheap gold pass that work at 40+ parks) and then follow it up with bad news (“portfolio adjustment”)

>>2807632
What do if you have an all parks past for this year? Just buy another?
>access to 45 parks for a year and a half for $95
How can you make money with such a stupid idea?

>>2807648
If you have an all park pass for 2025, it becomes redundant when you renew. I renewed my Cedar Point pass this morning and it now shows 2 all park passes, one that expires at the end of this year and one that expires at the end of next year. But I already made great use of mine visiting KI several times in the last year and also going to Dorney and SFGAdv.

It’s a limited time sale that ends in a month after which they’ll just go back to selling the all park add on and the season pass prices will keep going up. People are guessing that they want to quickly generate a lot of pass sales so they can offset any bad news in their Q2 financial report. Cedar Fair always had cheap pass sales in August going back years. It’s the all park pass add on that they’re giving away and a lot of people probably won’t even utilize it. It will encourage some people to travel, but the number of road trippers is probably very small. For close parks like Knott’s and MM it’s a different story and will generate more traffic to those parks

Have they fixed the drop on Battle at the Ministry yet or is it gonna be like the original ending of Forbidden Journey?

>>2807658
Speak of FJ, I went back and watched POVs from 2010 and it's pretty sad how much has broken on the ride since then

>fog machines in the forbidden forest scene
>ride vehicle aimed fully upwards when the spiders ascend into the ceiling
>dragon could move its neck
>sorting hat animatronic could be heard over the crowd and fully articulated
>entire ride was much darker
>womping willow moved all its branches rather than just the one that hits you
>dementor scene that projects your face onto the smoke screen worked

You'd think with all the money HP makes for Universal, it's financially in their interests to keep that ride in peak condition, but it's clearly falling apart. Some of it is inexcusable like the dementor face thing (how expensive could be it to fix a camera when your daily operating budget is in the tens of millions?) I wish ride remasters were a thing. Seems like it would be cheaper to go in and put 10-20 mil into revamping an existing ride to return it to glory or even add new effects. Disney does this with Haunted Mansion every so often and it's great, but Universal just lets their rides turn into junk yards kept on life support by brand recognition or nostalgia

>>2807632
Frontier City and La Ronde are the two parks owned by different entities operated by Six Flags, and maybe that prevents them being part of the deal. Even if they were dumping the leases both parks would not close and they’d find another operator like with Kentucky Kingdom
Michigan’s Adventure would be the only one actually to be worried about, especially since they cancelled all Halloween events

>>2807663
SF cancelled most if not all of their Holiday In The Park events too

>>2807663
Darien Lake has the MVP sale and they’re owned by EPR, same as Frontier City. It’s been several hours and those other parks still don’t have the sale. It would probably be in their best interest to get out from leasing these parks. But poor Michigan’s Adventure. It’s not looking good. That Halloween event was only two years old and apparently there was nobody there last year. The internet keeps saying MA is profitable but I don’t see anything to back this up. They did retrack Shivering Timbers with RMC track though but they also put money into SFA and that’s closing.

>>2807648
Average is probably only a couple of trips per ticket and they make loads of money from what they spend in the park.

People with annual passes also tend to avoid peak times.

>>2807665
I think some still have them. Looks like Magic Mountain still has theirs. Discovery Kingdom’s been branded as Winterfest for this year, probably to let the locals know their Winterfest is at a different park now instead of CGA

>>2807665
I think the difference is that those are still having full Halloween events and operating seasons into November, and have season passes on sale and clear indication they will still operate (they aren’t shutting Kings Dominion or Great Adventure obviously). Even Six Flags America which is shutting down and cancelled Haunt is having the kids trick or treat events still and going to November’s closure
Michigan’s Adventure is having its season just end at Labor Day, with no Halloween anything as it was all scrapped. If season passes aren’t up by end of week (since people say they are slightly slower getting things up) I’d be very concerned this is the last season

Six Flags Great Escape and Six Flags Mexico are not showing the MVP sale either. The Mexico park gets good attendance but I can see them not wanting to operate there. Interesting that the sale says 40+ parks. They have 42 properties and 2 of them (SFA and its HH) are closing. That means the + thing isn’t accurate

>>2807676
Do we even have a list of ones that aren’t? Maybe some are not part of that sale (as in you can buy another parks pass and go to MA, but not buy one at MA) due to various reasons with nothing about their future
I can’t see them shuttering the lease or closing an additional 5-6 parks this soon

>>2807678
I looked them all up, unless something changes these parks don’t show the sale:

Michigan’s Adventure
La Ronde (leased)
SF Great Escape
SF Mexico
Frontier City (leased)

They own three of these parks and two of them are leased (noted). SF Mexico and La Ronde could just be because they’re outside the US (Canada’s Wonderland has the sale but it showed up a week early). Michigan’s Adventure is slow to update things but according to Reddit a recent survey asked what your closest SF park was and it wasn’t listed. Frontier City had its operating days cut significantly short this year, I don’t think they want to operate this park much longer. Great Escape is in a tourist area and has a water park hotel so I wouldn’t think it’s in danger. Aside from MA I can see these parks all surviving without SF ownership. MA’s land isn’t valuable and people always claim it’s profitable but I see no evidence. Still I can see MA just closing down at the end of this season and nobody interested in running it

>>2807584
Nothing ever happens is a lie because every single day, the destroyer of the world is coming closer to killing them all.

>>2807681
Add Darien Lake to the list. I thought for sure it showed the sale earlier but it does not. >>2807663 might be right, it could be because they’re leased. Great Escape isn’t leased though and neither is Mexico (but again it’s not the US). Michigan’s Adventure I have a very bad feeling about. IMO these are all parks the chain should get rid of anyways. Along with SFA that would bring the chain down to 20 amusement parks (plus the water parks) with CGA closing in a couple years bringing it to 19 (from 27). Almost all these parks would likely get bought by somebody else except for probably Michigans Adventure.

SFGA is getting a kids area for 2026 with the rumor that it’s going to be Peanuts-themed. MA has a Camp Snoopy that opened in 2021. They can just ferry everything across the lake. It’s not very big but they can expand it and consolidate the other kids rides scattered around the park. Along with whatever SFA has

>>2807694
>SFGA
Great America right?
Really having the same abbreviation as Great Adventure doesn’t help lmao

>>2807694
Kid's rides are the first things to go when a park is parting out its rides. They're small, simple, easy to remove and transport, easy to reinstall, and always in demand. Unless any of them are completely shot, they'll get put in another park in the system.

>>2807696
It's been going on since the days of coaster forums. I just call it SFNJ lol

>>2807696
Yes, Great America.

Someone in one of the MA groups said they called and said they would be on sale early August
Six Flags second quarter investment call is August 6th, if they aren’t on sale before then that is what to watch. Even if passes go on sale it might be a closing 2026 deal. Might be an overreaction, who knows

Even if they keep these parks (for now at least), I think by not posting the MVP sale today they’re showing these parks are not their core focus. Aka if there is going to be another closure or sale, it’s going to be one of these parks, they’re “endangered”. Other parks like Discovery Kingdom and SF New England and Valleyfair might be on the “threatened” list but the chain plans to keep them for the foreseeable future.

I seriously wonder if people ten years from now will look at these like they’re completely outdated.

>>2807662
Funny cause I've been meaning to write about how I feel Disney lets their big attractions rot to shit. I think of Florida's Small World and how run down it looks now. Not so much broken animatronics but general filth and trash in the loading room, missing ceiling tiles and worn out set pieces. Frankly, the more I ride it the more I think it needs a major redesign. I feel like the Mary Blairism can be done much better. This could be a hot take and I know it's not exactly the same but the one doll room in Gran Fiesta looks much nicer than any room in Small world. It's too easy to feel like you're just in a warehouse looking at cardboard cutouts. I know the art style is simple and geometric but it feels cheap how it's executed.

Disney has little to no incentive to mess with it though, unless they injected IPslop. Also the updated song's adult backing vocals rub me the wrong way. Sounds like I'm listening to a youtube cover rendition. Maybe I'm just being a picky prick though.

>>2807656
Well shit, I only used my all parks pass twice and one time I got free parking because it was so late in the day. I was about to use it twice for the Ohio parks this weekend. But whatever, $115 for a year and a half. That’s less than Animal Kingdom costs for a single day not including parking. I feel like I’m robbing them.

>>2807739
The next time Disney refurbished small world they’ll probably make half the French puppets black, so let’s not encourage them.

>>2807726
Here for Michigan's Adventure's giga in 10 years

>>2807739
This was one of the best parts of Tokyo Disney. As far as I could tell, all of their rides seemed to be meticulously maintained, even those that were going to be axed soon.

>>2807739
It’s a small world always looked tacky to me with that ceiling tile. Even as a kid. And I swear I’ve seen spots from leaks in years past. It’s one of the most un-Disney show buildings. There are probably more like it but you just can’t see it

I'm in the opinion they need to move Disney World's small world to Epcot and demolish the current building for new additions

>>2807495
>The ride's track was a souped up variant of the omnimover system with variable speed options
It's a shame they didn't do this for Cosmic Rewind. It already has the pavilion theming, you can have the ride start out as an in-world omnimover and then have something go wrong that takes you into the coaster portion. Continuous load stations already exist, just extend that into the first section of the ride.
Instead we have the world's largest preshow rooms and everyone moving to the exit doors the second the walls raise.

>>2807767
I honestly don't mind that idea. I was also wondering why Soarin isn't in world showcase.

Now that the dust has settled, can we admit Siren's Curse is mid?

>>2807784
If would be cool if this disconnected and derailed mid-transfer killing Robb Alvey from Theme Park Review

>>2807495
>>2807774
I wonder if Universal is trying to make this kind of ride as a SNW expansion. Since the gimmick of that is a game and ride experience. And they already have a coaster, dark ride, and Yoshi adventure for the pure thrill, pure chaotic gaming, and relaxing gaming. Like if it’s Luigi’s mansion, they will have slow sections for gaming but then fast sections for thrills and animatronics.

>>2807716
Michigan’s Adventure and SF Great Escape are advertising the MVP sale today. The leased SF parks (La Ronde, Frontier City, Darien Lake) still don’t show is and neither does SF Mexico. Still kinda weird that MA and SFGE didn’t have it yesterday and possibly a sign of not so good things but apparently MA is often slow at posting deals.

>>2807787
I wonder how relevant he is anymore. For a while before youtube existed he sold his down DVDs to thoosies and ran his own forums, and that relative fame went to his head. Does he get invited to media events anymore?

>>2807787
Don’t put that out there. That would be terrible for the industry if this thing disconnected and derailed. It’s got a bunch of redundant fail safes which is why it’s needed to evacuate 4 times since it opened. I don’t think these evacuations are as big as a deal as the media thinks. Millennium Force evacuations are worse because there are no stairs and you have to get into a sidecar while wearing a harness. And they do it one row at a time down and back. Possibly 200-300ft up. Siren’s Curse’s evacuation procedure is kind of a design flaw though. It can’t winch backwards and down the lift hill because it’s a traditional lift hill with anti rollbacks but for this type of mechanism it really should have been designed with LSMs so that it could coast back to the station

>>2807955
>it really should have been designed with LSMs so that it could coast back to the station
So much more expensive than a chain lift both up front and in maintenance costs to make an event that will only happen a few times a year a little easier. As mechanics and electricians become more familiar with the ride, faults will get figured out and evacs will become less common.

If you go to Disneyland within the next few days, find where they are filming (yesterday was around the Tiki Room area) and keep walking around the area you can be in the Oswald tv series
https://www.laughingplace.com/disney-parks/jon-favreau-filming-oswald-show-at-disneyland/

>>2807787
Aaah here comes a plummeting coaster Wooooooooooooaaaaaaaaah

>>2807948
There are channels which give better, commentary free reviews, channels which do better reviews and vloggers who are just less irritating. Not to mention the weird insular aspect of their videos where you get the feeling the group they go around in is especially obnoxious, especially for the smaller parks.

The /rcg/ youtuber got a gf
o7

>>2807995
(male)

>>2807995
i was watching his videos today. he has a positive story, moving to orlando to build a real life for himself instead of rotting in his room all day every day like alot of people do.

>>2807995
>just be a niche internet micro-celebrity bro

I saw him at Disney Springs a few months ago. I didn’t approach him because I thought that would be weird.

>>2808018
the polite protocol if you see a theme park eceleb in person is to give a quick wave and maybe a hello if they're not filming. They don't mind being recognized they mind the "OMG I LOVE UR VIDEOS CAN I TAKE A PICTURE" fags

>>2808018
>>2808044
I wouldn't say anything

I would listen, and that's what no one does

>>2808044
I almost ran head first into timtracker rounding a corner too fast when I was leaving a bathroom in toon lagoon during some event more a decade ago and I spat out the grossest "ew" I could muster. This was back when he had that curled mustache. Ive never watched any of his videos but he was heavily present in the youtube sphere of amusement parks at the time so I saw his thumbnails all the time.

I’m doing my first giga tomorrow. Can anyone hype me up?

>>2808072
Which one

>>2808073
Orion

>>2808078
All I'll say about Orion is it felt like it was really hauling when I rode it earlier this year, so I hope it's doing so for you. I liked it better than Diamondback.

>>2808044
The correct protocol is to flip them off and tell them to kill themselves

>>2808097
This is energy I want to see from this general

>>2808004
>he has a positive story, moving to orlando to build a real life for himself instead of rotting in his room all day

his commentary is good but i lost interest in that aspect of the channel when I learned he works for his dad. that makes his whole venture seem way less risky.

>>2808046
Okay, Brian Warner

>>2808086
Orion is a good ride but I’m surprised of how different it is compared to Fury. If you compare the POVs, they look kinda similar in many ways. Fury is a few seconds longer but that’s not the difference. Fury just feels a lot different for some reason. Anyways I preferred Diamondback but still enjoyed Orion a lot

who is making next thread

>>2807784
>3rd malfunction since opening
dead on arrival

Autists, what’s the smallest roller coaster you’ll count as a credit? Do you count the Hippogriff? Goofy’s Barnstormer? The kiddie coaster you rode when you were 10?

>>2808340
It's kind of shameful to include children's coasters, because at that point you're just stat padding. If you went on them as a child and want to be autistic then fine, but grown men riding a Wacky Worm for the credit is permavirgin tier behavior

>>2808344
What about coasters obviously targeted at children but still rideable by adults?

>>2808349
Give me some examples of what you mean

>>2808340
A cred's a cred bro.

>>2808354
Hippogriff or Goofy’s Barnstormer as I mentioned. Lesser rides than the family but still enjoyable Slinky Dog or Seven Dwarfs.

>>2808340
Every coaster is a "credit", doesn't mean I'm riding it

Kings Island appears to suck cock at capacity and it’s completely by choice. Diamondback is running three trains and has a 120 minute wait and they’re sending each one out with a bunch of empty seats. When my ride was finishing I saw a train going up the lift hill with four empty ROWS. I don’t think it’s a seat issue either. The pube-headed high schooler they have working the merge is letting people into the row queues at a trickle. The next train will arrive and the seats will empty and there aren’t even people ready in all the rows. I have a fast lane so it’s not personal to me but I’d probably be livid if I didn’t.

>>2808359
Enjoy your stat padding I guess

muppet shop gone

Do you guys want another fusion company ride at Universal just to have something really strange there you can’t get anywhere else.

>>2808426
>fusion company ride
wut

Do you find water parks fun as an adult alone? I haven’t been to one since I was 16 and that was with my high school. Going to Holiday World tomorrow and wondering if I should stop by the water park.

>I'm gonna fuck her.
>I'm gonna fuck the Victoria Frankenstein animatronic.

Never met a theme park YouTuber but I was in back of h3h3 Ethan Klein and his wife in line. It was the pretzel stand in front of the Thunder Mountain ride entrance at Disneyland. Also saw him at the exit of Pirates. Didn't say anything to him but I was a big fan of his back in the mid 2010s. This was 2021, shortly after they re-opened due to COVID. Worst Disneyland visit I ever had, vibes at the park were horrible

>>2808433
I spent a full day at typhoon lagoon alone recently. It is enjoyable solo but better if you have someone familiar to share the fun with. Plus if you want to ride any big raft rides it's easier with a friend so youre not tagging along with a family like i did.

They should make a dark ride in celestial park, in the old school style (but maybe with modern technology) like that restaurant, and it should tell the lore of celestial park. they could even include visits to different worlds, and they could change up what worlds they visit between each ride so it stays fresh. should be doable with the old school style which doesnt use huge animatronics.

multiple advantages.
teaches people the lore of celestial park so there can be more excitement and maybe they could sell more merch
increases capacity especially of rides that dont close in rain
probably not too expensive

and including various worlds they visited that changes between each ride gives people who only care about ips a reason to ride it, and to ride it over and over to see everytihng.

>>2808580
An omnimover about travelling through space would be neat soak up some queues and give small/timid kids another ride.

>>2808580
not-spaceship earth could be really fun but I don't think they could do it without tearing out a lot of that area

>>2808393
damn rip, is mama melrose's still around?

>>2808672
That's being converted into Harryhausen's.

>>2808679
holy kek is that true? I haven't seen monsters inc in awhile but the pizar wiki is almost as funny as the star wars one
https://pixar.fandom.com/wiki/Harryhausen%27s

>>2808393
Never understood why theme parks just throw scraps like that away when they could absolutely separate them into thousands of little framed souvenirs and sell them off to fanatical collectors for an easy million. Do you know how much people would have paid for small fragments of the dueling dragons scrap metal?

>>2808686
I'm honest;y surprised we aren't there yet, sports fans will literally pay $20 for dirt

Why yes I am staying after park hours to ride alone in the front row on Good Gravy, how could you tell?

>>2808686
I know Disney used to sell "Piece of the Magic" pins.

>>2808686
You've got to store all that stuff then process it to make it fit for sale, not to mention that a bunch of stuff will have complicated rights situations. Lastly the more of it there is, the less valuable it is.

>>2808700
Gee willikers!

>>2808797
Bless your heart!

>>2808797
>>2808834
It's kinda interesting just how many family shuttles are being built recently.

Lots of coaster designers who grew up playing RCT and know how building those is EZ mode?

Anyhow, it's about time to bake, anyone want to do the honours?

The Voyage is phenomenal. Would be the best woody in the world if Phoenix didn’t cheat with buzz bars.

>10/18 cedar point coasters closed
The mecca of theme parks everyone.

>>2808901
This is still peak summer in the US right? When do the kids tend to go back?

>>2808904
Mid to late August I think.

>>2808904
Varies but school is already starting back in some places

>>2808944
>>2808944
>>2808944

>>2804048
I should and want to, but I'm more of a drawer than a video man. I'd be editing it in movie maker lol. but I have Ideas:
>I've wanted to talk about how Tiana fails and splash succeeding at storytelling
As a gamer, >I want to discuss the open world aspects of the parks, ala https://youtu.be/l4cxstiC5LY?si=P_nwD2oQprztILQC
Guests need yellow paint
>Proposing 3 Sonic the Hedgehog attractions
My autism might scare the hoes
>A whole ass review and analysis of Disneyland
Now that's a far off project, I'd probably do USH and Knott's first.
>'Fixing' Tomorrowland
>Proposing/armchairing my own Disney Park
>Proper Visual Storytelling in themed parks.
I'd like to share these Ideas but I am fearing the consequences.

>>2804298
>Just overall I find myself missing someone to bounce off of especially in queues which are boring af and I don't wanna sit on my phone.
Me and my sibling are assholes so we usually make fun of the park, analyze the park, laugh at the freaks at the park, make in-jokes. Awesome stuff.
If I was alone I'd probably assault someone.
>>2804639
new bad, old good. shrimple as that.
>>2805353
I care about sightlines, but I also don't mind if the whole world looks nice together, It's shrimple art and design guys.
>>2808340
Never understood the idea of credits, I'm more of a park 103% completion guy

>>2809342
>shrimple
>shrimple
What the fuck's your problem?