Let's settle this, which european country that you've traveled to had the most attractive women that are the most down to earth (i.e non bitchy, non self entitled).

>>2804034 (OP)
Attractiveness correlates with entitlement

Austria

I think the question is poorly worded and the reason women don't like you has nothing to do with the country you live in or the countries you went to in an unsuccessful attempt to lose your v card

>>2804034 (OP)
I've barely spoken to any women during my travels to Europe, but aesthetically it was Spain. The one girl I did converse with there was very nice though; reckon I could have nailed her if I wasn't an autistic mong.

>>2804035
in relative terms retard.

>>2804037
tired of this whole "bro, getting the laid is the same everywhere, the problem is YOU." for one, I've laid with over 40 chicks and there's a glaring difference between American and European women, especially when it comes to getting laid.

>>2804036
I've heard they are woke now.
>>2804037
I'm just looking for something traditional, I have the money, the looks but the US is FUCKED in dating especially in the bay area.
>>2804035
It's really gotten that bad in the west huh? I really try to filter out the pol threads but it seems to be the case the more I look. I'd rather not date asian, but given the way things are looking I might have to. It feels dirty to date outside my race but at least Japanese and Koreans are there in spirit. I have enough crypto, I'm in fair shape for an american, tall enough to not look like a manlet but no girls are worth pocket sand out here. Surely there should be some Eastern European country where they are looking for a decent white male American who wants nothing but the best for the future and be a provider to take up the role of a tradwife right? I want kids but I'm not changing diapers.

>>2804034 (OP)

I didn't chat with anyone but the women in Poland were the most beautiful white women I've seen, sadly most of them were with black guys.

>>2804055
I'm half polish and the women there are insane, but thanks for the effort.

>>2804055
that's hot as a black man i will go there

>>2804034 (OP)
Denmark
Latvia
Estonia
Lithuania
>not in any particular order.

>>2804034 (OP)
Southern France.
Avoid the north.

>>2804034 (OP)
Genuinely England, but I think I just got extremely lucky kek

>>2804235
Also adding that this was in the middle of nowhere north where people generally seemed to walk more, act friendlier, etc. In big cities you'll struggle to find good women

>>2804034 (OP)
Belgian woman are pretty nice but that's because they are all mid or ugly.

Swiss women are nice if you are white with money.

Avoid French woman at all cost, especially Parisians.

>>2804034 (OP)
Down to earth is difficult to judge because you can never really tell if being a (white, in my case) foreign traveler gives you a bit of a novelty factor which makes women more chatty and open to you, compared to how they might be with local men generally. Also there's probably a big city vs country difference in attitude.
For what it's worth I've found that women I've spoken to in Central Europe are quite friendly and unassuming.

>>2804034 (OP)
Georgian or French (not Parisian)

Not Europe. Mexico for sure.

>>2804034 (OP)
>which group of women will be receptive to me trying to fuck them even though they look way better than I do

None, OP. Make yourself good looking and successful or live without female attention.

>>2804034 (OP)
Czech Republic and Slovakia.

They have too many real issues to be caught up in nonsense ideology like the women in Sweden or Norway.

Doesn't exist. Either pick a white woman with all the baggage that entails or go East/Southeast Asian. Eastern Europeans are still white women and still do white women things.

>>2804034 (OP)
Considering both factors, Hungary was decent.

>>2804046
That's absurd. Spanish has too much ethnic to be the highest realms of beauty.

>>2804053
I agree. What would you say the difference is?

>>2804235
As in what, you finally managed to get laid and then led to you completely overlooking everything else? England would be bottom tier.

From my experience while living and travelling in different european cities:

French: They are very opinionated, often woke/feminist, have borderline extremist far-left views of everything in life while having a lot of resentment for men in general. The ones that aren't woke are just retarded and cannot maintain a basic conversation. The arabs that make up 20-30% of the female pool there are all either gold diggers, religious extremists or cum dumpsters.

German: Wokism got to them to the point you'd think its a humiliation ritual to punish them for WW2, forget it unless you want her to drop a bomb randomly and tell you she wants a gangbang or ''to experiment with other guys'', the ones in the south of germany aren't so fucked up in the head however.

Austria: Same as germany, but there are a few who are really sane and don't play games but they are boring as fuck and rigid. Austrians in general have that cold and robot attitude, some like it, others hate it.

Switzerland: French part are cum sluts copy-pasting parisian women and many are also very political, german side are the insufferable woke bitches or the boring rigid ones that behave like robots, the italian part ones are actually not too bad.

Italy: The ones in the north are 50/50, you'll either meet a gem or a chick that will ruin your life. The ones in Bologna are woke but a lot of activist students live there. The ones in the south often come from poorer backgrounds so expect a lot of gold digging the minute they see you are doing okay for yourself.

Baltics: Estonian women were the best of the bunch, the prettiest too. I had very good vibes from them and they were easy to exchange with. Lithuanian women are cum rags and gold diggers for the most part. Latvian women are very strange, cold and reserved from what i saw but once you get to know them they open up a lot more.

Polish: Gold digger galore, many have multiple fuck friends and think with their vagina instead of their brain.

Spain: Woke.

>>2804034 (OP)
I was really suprised by Berlin in February. I've been there numerous times, and never noticed that literally 8 out of 10 (white) girls are good-looking, well-dressed, and overall hot.

>>2804054
Why would a Slavic girl who wants a traditional stable relationship let herself fall for a foreign mutt who has zero connections to her town and doesn't even speak her language? It makes zero sense at all.

>>2804569
Europe contrasts so strongly with America in that regard. I can spend an entire day walking around an American city like Denver and see few if any attractive young women. But even a small European town like Elk, Poland will have more than its fair share of summertime cuties strolling around. The tendency of Americans is to hide away in private, climate-controlled safe spaces, only going out for designated exercise periods (if they aren't sedentary lardasses like 70% of the population). Europeans, like most other normal humans, prefer being outdoors when the weather is halfway decent, and consider a 2 km walk with a bag of groceries to be perfectly normal and routine.

>>2804696
This. People like OP think they can get a "trad wife" just like they can buy a Nintendo Switch on Amazon.
The reality is that to get a trad wife in an Eastern country, you need to court the woman for months before meeting her parents and getting the approval to get married, and she will be more picky than any feminist arthoe you can meet at a punk club. And the women in those countries are right do so, they want to ensure the man they will marry will be able to provide for them, will not leave them after she gets pregnant, and won't sleep around. They want stability.
The truth is, no 4chan poster is ready for this. Their American idea of a "trad wife" is someone submissive they can pump and dump and their brains are completely rotten with porn. It's an idea deeply rooted o, modern degeneracy but as in an idealized world in favor of men. No I'm sorry, but you need to either revise your standards, or step up your game. You might have money and good looks, but if you think that's enough, you aren't ready to have a "trad wife" at all. A trad wife wants you to consider her as a complete human being with feelings, not solely as a cum dumpster who can cook.

>>2804034 (OP)
I spent a few years in Europe. 16 countries and ERASMUS experience. IMO based on first hand knowledge......
>I mean actual White, Native Europeans - not brown trash
French, Finnish, Czechs, Italians, and Hungarians are total sweetheart girls. The rest are boring mid-tier

>>2804696
Because Eastern European men are ugly and American men are actually quite charming.
>inb4 euroseethe over saying something positive about Americans

>>2804696
Anywhere you try to date as a foreigner will select for girls who are high openness. Usually they will be better educated, too (assuming they speak English). The really sad thing is that even the super liberal, sex-positive women in those countries are more conservative than normal women in your country; with very few exceptions they ape the style of the yoga girl boss feminists that stopped being cool in the 2010s, but still grew up in a country dominated by the Catholic (or in this case, East Orthodox) church in relative poverty, so the scaffolding necessary to import the more inane aspects of western culture just isn’t there yet.

>>2804777
This is cope, there are plenty available who will idealize you solely because you’re not an alcoholic and weren’t raised to consider domestic violence to be a valid means of expressing your emotions. This is true all over the world. In the non-white parts, colonialism and white supremacy also give you a boost, but even that isn’t all it is; East Asian guys usually do ok in LatAm, for example.

Test

>>2804855
>there are plenty available who will idealize you solely because you’re not an alcoholic and weren’t raised to consider domestic violence to be a valid means of expressing your emotions
Dude it's not 1990s anymore

>>2804034 (OP)
For me it's Dutch farm girls with a touch of tism
>>2804569
They are all performative lesbians

I cant help showing my power level with German girls. If they are hot I can't help but eventually comment on their superior genetics and start talking about ancestry and their 'Germanic' features and collective psyche.

I'll tell you this, hot German women are unsurpassable in my opinion. Scandis are generally overrated for me. A truly hot German woman is unreal. But I've never ever met one who wasn't blunt, boring and woke as fuck. They fucking worship homos I'm telling you.

>>2804034 (OP)
Austria but its being really targeted by non-whites. Especially the ballroom dances.

Barcelona and Rome had some of the prettiest women I've ever seen. Like 10/10s working at museums and shit when they could easily be models in commericials.

I was surprised how many beautiful and seemingly down to earth girls there were in Madrid. Was only there a few days but even the 10s would smile and make small talk with my 5/10 ass

>>2804842
Americans with the resources to travel to Europe are likely much more charming than the unwashed masses in the lower 48

>>2804842
>American men are actually quite charming

>>2805132
>>2805143
Sorry, you got inb4'd

>>2804034 (OP)
Austria but the Asian and black girls are starting to invade. They don't want white people to have anything to themselves. Especiall ballroom dances.

>>2804855
You don't get it, it doesn't work that way.
I have traveled in Serbia recently, and Serbian women are stunning, really some of the most beautiful ones I've seen.

The thing is, first of all, celibate Serbian women won't talk with you. They stay together with their friends, and will reject you if you attempt a cold-approach.
If you managed to talk with a Serbian woman (I didn't and I stayed there for almost a month), she will not offer herself to you right from the get go. You will need to keep contact with her for months. You will need to speak fluent Serbian because even if a lot of them speak fluent English in cities, you won't truly understand the culture and how life truly goes on there.
You will need to prove to this girl that you really like her, that you want her and only her, that you have a job in the country who can sustain a life for both of you, in order to fund a family with her. You will need to remind yourself to bring her flowers every once in a while, chocolate, gifts.
Then perhaps she will consider really dating you. And you will have to meet her family before getting married, of course.
Add on top of that the fact that you will be competing with 6'5 muscular guys and basically you have extremely little chance of finding a "trad" Serbian wife.

Oh and the Russian girls living in Serbia? They are way more open to talking with strangers, but guess what, they all came there with their boyfriends.

So now, you know to not come to Serbia for that. You need to fall in love with the country and getting integrated before having a chance there. It's the same in Albania btw.
But the deeper message is to get rid of this transactional "customer is king" mindset that permeates American culture.
Let's face it, you ask for the impossible, "trad wives" who are open to fucking with a foreigner because he has money and an American passport.
No this is not traditional at all. Traditional is finding a wife in your own country.

>>2804855
>>2805280 (cont.)
Actually traditional marriages were arranged marriages where you didn't choose your wife, it was the affair of the patriarchs of two families to choose, matters of "I will marry my daughter to your son" in other to strengthen ties and share some land and goods.
Maybe there were some advantages to arranged marriages, at least there were no incels, but you were stuck with someone you didn't choose, and there was no love, it was mostly a matter of survival for the whole extended family.

It changed with the industrial revolution, liberalism and feminism, and that's my whole point: you can't really bemoan the attitude of modern Western women while also being a liberal man in denial who thinks he can buy his way into a girl's pants with simply some money and a passport.
A lot of you bitch about feminism, and it's true that modern feminists often are very picky, flip-flop about their feelings, cheat, be needy, annoying and have various hang-ups.
But guess what, modern Western feminists are also much more open to fuck with an American foreigner than a "trad woman". If they like you (or not), they will probably tell you right away, and you won't have to chase her for months to prove you are a worthy person. Sometimes it's just for one night, sometimes they want a long-term relationship.

I don't think anyone who posts in threads like this are ready for a "trad relationship" in a foreign country. You first need to fall in love with the country proper, and then maybe you get the wife later. Do you realize these "trad countries" are very nationalistic? You will be another American tourist, not marriage material.
The reality is that you want to live in a 1950s hot dog advertisement, something that does not exist. So maybe buy the gf experience in Thailand instead of having unrealistic dreams, because dating in Eastern Europe isn't easy at all.
That said, the American dating scene seems hellish so I can understand why you think it's easier there.

people are really sleeping on the friendliness and openness of Germans. Their English usually does suck but the girls look good and are in for a laugh. So are the Danish.
Purely based on looks nothing can compete for me personally with Russians but those bitches are so fucking arrogant.

>>2804034 (OP)
The USA because that's where I met my beautiful wife

>>2805286
I have to correct you. Feminism didn't come out of industrialism directly. What was happening at the time was similar to today. The nations debts were over extended in the late 1800s. Ma rx specifically mentions the pro letariat only views their family as a means of production. Including wifes and children (child labour laws repealing today sound familiar?)
The common idea is that feminism successfully took place because rich women were doing it. It might be more that the lack of love was just much more glaring when it happened to the owners of the means of production

LIberalism is a different thing too. It would have been against the rich women who were also the proletariat. Don't think of it as the same kind in the 1800s as the modern one from 1950s-60s. Maybe 1920s. Which has fazed out by the way. Taking over ideas from 80 years ago to conserve them... Would make you a conservative.

>>2805131
White women in general are more complex and mysterious than non-white women. They are much more likely to be friendly to a weird guy than women of other races. Their curiosity does not always equate with sexual attraction, however. I learned this the hard way, more than once.
>>2805342
Lies. Germans and Nordics in general are some of the least friendly people on Earth. Only when they are sloshing with drink do they lose their inhibitions.

>>2805280
>you dont get it, it doesnt work that way

Just cause you didnt do any boom boom love stories with any euro goddesses does not mean its impossible

>>2804697
Hot women are NOT in Denver wtf, go to Aspen, Telluride, the resorts. I do notice our hottest women only go to the highest temperature climates though tbf. Nashville, Carolinas, NYC, LA, Seattle, try these places.

Portugal has a lot of hot chicks

>>2804697
>walking around an American city like Denver
low quality bait

>>2805464
Not in Seattle or anywhere in PNW. There are some attractive women here and there. Women don’t slut it up like in other places which is nice, but the real attractive ones come from old rich parents. If you don't have a lake house, a boat, or didn't go to the top university, you’re a ghost to them. Then you have the crazy liberal hippies and the girl boss career women, both unattractive.

>>2805280
>>2805286
>They stay together with their friends, and will reject you if you attempt a cold-approach.
>If you managed to talk with a Serbian woman (I didn't and I stayed there for almost a month), she will not offer herself to you right from the get go. You will need to keep contact with her for months. You will need to speak fluent Serbian because even if a lot of them speak fluent English in cities, you won't truly understand the culture and how life truly goes on there.
>You will need to prove to this girl that you really like her, that you want her and only her, that you have a job in the country who can sustain a life for both of you, in order to fund a family with her. You will need to remind yourself to bring her flowers every once in a while, chocolate, gifts.
>Then perhaps she will consider really dating you.
Pretty much the same in Russia, although you at least don't have to look like a tall athlete to compete with local men.

Also, Eastern European countries are very far from anything "traditional" in the American sense (meaning Taliban-level Christian fundamentalism).

>>2805462
Of course it's not impossible but I don't think it's any easier than in the West.