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Anonymous No.2804955 >>2804961 >>2804966 >>2804975 >>2804984 >>2805038 >>2805073 >>2805392 >>2805396 >>2805764 >>2805848 >>2805973 >>2807024 >>2809582 >>2809612
Just graduated with a degree in computer science and 20k to spare
Where should I go? I was thinking of moving to japan and finding a remote job. I'm bored in life
Anonymous No.2804961 >>2804964
>>2804955 (OP)
I hate people like you so much
Anonymous No.2804964 >>2804973
>>2804961
Why
Anonymous No.2804966 >>2804971 >>2805075
>>2804955 (OP)
Hey friend please go for it.
However, with zero experience, you won’t find a remote job that pays you well enough to afford a comfortable life in Japan. All entry level coding jobs are taken by Indians using chatGPT and it pays like $10 an hour at most.

But if you grind for 10 years you could build up enough clout to work remotely for big bucks. Maybe
Anonymous No.2804971
>>2804966
I saw online some apartments can be very cheap. I wouldn't mind living somewhere cheaper and then visiting other places in asia if i have money
Anonymous No.2804972 >>2804976
Enjoy your $2/300 words gig writing clickbait articles on mturk.
Anonymous No.2804973
>>2804964
Jealousy
Anonymous No.2804975
>>2804955 (OP)
If you want to move to Japan, you must be employed by a Japanese company or a company with a representative office in Japan
Anonymous No.2804976 >>2804981 >>2804985 >>2805045
>>2804972
I hope that will be enough to start a small company, or enroll in a graduate degree program for a year or two?
Anonymous No.2804981
>>2804976
You can't do that if you can't even look up the requirements for a start-up visa.
Anonymous No.2804984
>>2804955 (OP)
>degree in computer science
>2025
Lol lmao even
Anonymous No.2804985 >>2804991
>>2804976
It's not working. Your competition at the entry level is billions of Jeets, Pakis etc using Chat GPT and willing to work for cents. Those are the same people calling people for days hoping to scam 1-2 people per week out of a $10-50 itunes/google play card, their time is worthless and anything more than 0 is great.

The well paying remote jobs are either the reward for building up your career or finding a retarded company that for some reason has great earnings and pays you $10k/months to basically babysit their server.
The first takes 5-10 years to get started, the later is a 1:10m chance
Anonymous No.2804991 >>2804992 >>2804993 >>2804996
>>2804985
How bleak. Would a graduate degree in computer science help me get a job? And can I get it from a country in asia?
Anonymous No.2804992
For real response

OP if you can't get a job in your home country it's unlikely to get one in Japan, You can do the working Holiday Visa program if you're country is on the list to look and apply for work. Though a fresh grad, probably little to no Japanese, not going to get much if anything.

Just take the 90-180 day visa free you get and enjoy a gap year with that 20k, then go find a job and work towards something remote.

>>2804991
You build exp at home, get industry certs, prove your shit via linkedin+industry exp and sell yourself there. T. gets job offers regularly in Japan and Korea
Anonymous No.2804993 >>2805007 >>2805082
>>2804991
No, retard. The IT/CS gravy train is OVER unless you are a JEET!
You chose poorly! You shouldve gone into law, medicine, or picked a trade a jeet can’t do! Now you will compete in the race to the bottom with Rajesh and Mohit!
Anonymous No.2804996 >>2805007 >>2805045
>>2804991
No degree ever will help you, even a Phd is worthless once you go from university to the actual market
You degree has 0 value in the actual salary market. It's just a door opener so a company will take you in as you shown interest and dedication to the field to learn completely outdated stuff for years so there's a slim chance they might be able to turn you into something usable.
Anonymous No.2804998 >>2805007
The only guarantee of a high paying tech job salary in the USA right now is a job that requires citizenship and a security clearance. And those jobs will not let you work abroad. Everything that can be done abroad will be done by a jeet on the cheap.
Anonymous No.2805007 >>2805026 >>2805392
>>2804993
>>2804996
>>2804998
Have this (YOU) enjoy being a doomer
Anonymous No.2805026 >>2805036 >>2805396
>>2805007
Hey check back in with us when your savings runs out and you are grinding on gig apps to pay rent
Anonymous No.2805036 >>2805041
>>2805026
Why? I am a Systems Engineer, my job is pretty secure because I am not focused solely on FAGMAN style gigs. You'd be surprised how well paid and flexible SMB markets are; and how absolutely hateful of Rajhabduel Poojeethammod they are.
Anonymous No.2805038
>>2804955 (OP)
>just graduated with 20k to spare
>lets take a gap year on the resume and blow the 20k on travel
Anonymous No.2805041 >>2805065
>>2805036
How many years of experience, anon? OP is freshmeat and hoping for the same life as those of us who are already well established. OP will not accomplish this level while working remotely from some thirdie shithole while fucking LBFMs.
Anonymous No.2805045
>>2804996
>>2804976
Just throwing this out there. The longer you spend in school the more doors you close. When I was going through grad application process one of my professors sat me down and actually talked me through this as well. Yes a PhD or Masters will get you potential access to niche job markets but they are small and highly competitive. The reality is people will look at your degrees and toss your resume aside because they will expect you want to be paid a lot or too qualified (unironically). If you actually want a job you need experience which means interning and starting early. Also Grad school is not cheap, it's fucking expensive and PhD is probably a nightmare without grants/scholarships or paid for by an employer.
Anonymous No.2805065 >>2805075
>>2805041
That's why I said OP needs to build EXP at home before thinking he can get a job abroad...
Anonymous No.2805073
>>2804955 (OP)
you have to get on the treadmill asap or else it'll be over for you. you should alreay have had an offer lined up before graduating now you have to play catch up
Anonymous No.2805075
>>2805065
I said the same thing before you >>2804966
Anonymous No.2805081 >>2805106 >>2805838
CS degree that bad? I'm 2 classes from graduation. Will only have one work term.
Anonymous No.2805082
>>2804993
>Law
>Lawyers have been a meme for like 20 years

>Medecine
>Just work for the government and take your 20 vaxxies maskies wiping boomer asses all day

>Trades
>Just do labour shit around ex-cons and meth addicts blowing out your body for 30/hr
Anonymous No.2805106 >>2805392
>>2805081
The problem it's not bad if you get your foot not just in the door but trough the door and willing to put in 3-5 years to get out of the junior positions and build a portfolio to show off to get actual good jobs way out of the Pajeet/Ransheed league.
If your dream is a 100k+ remote job just because you have a degree, this is not going to happen.
But yeah entry level is fucked so better start to network right now, even a internship is better than nothing.
Anonymous No.2805392 >>2805705
>>2804955 (OP)
>Where should I go? I was thinking of moving to japan and finding a remote job. I'm bored in life
think about the kind of career you'd like to have

Japanese tech industry is like $5-6k/month senior stuff. maybe high $100k-200k TOPS for their whole industry.

USA you could pull $200k as a senior and high end is $400-600k with the best tech companies the world has to offer.

oh and you'd need japanese for a lot of the $5-6k japan remote contracts.>>2805007
>Have this (YOU) enjoy being a doomer
I agree that these guys are being way too doomer. In internal tech forums, people are pulling an array of offers. here's the quote:
"""Have 5 offers in hand from a span of 2mo:
meta, pinterest, lyft, sf & nyc startup

Probably submitted about 40 apps, which converted to 6 full loops

Don't get discouraged by the naysayers"""
>>2805106
>build a portfolio to show off
I never built a portfolio beyond a toy app in 2017 and I most recently made $300k/yr. several zero portfolio friends with $400-500k jobs too. they're all highly intelligent tho
Anonymous No.2805396 >>2805447
>>2805026
>savings runs out
Someone who graduates with money in the bank has to have some degree of common sense.
>>2804955 (OP)
Spend $6000 traveling Japan. Then return to the grindset.
Anonymous No.2805447
>>2805396
>Someone who graduates with money in the bank has to have some degree of common sense.
Or he went to a cheaper school
Or his parents funded it
Or he's a trust fund kiddie
Or he's a real muppet and using loan money that he has to pay back later o n
Anonymous No.2805705
>>2805392
Give me a job
Anonymous No.2805742 >>2805832
It would be crazy to go off before you've gotten a job offer. You sign and then you can take your vacation before starting the job. If you don't go on the hunt now and stay at it until you get one, you will never get a job and be permanently unemployable.
Anonymous No.2805764
>>2804955 (OP)
>im bored
Correction: I want my penis played with by Japanese women. At least come correctly you fuckin dorkus
Anonymous No.2805832 >>2805901
>>2805742
I would probably only get something like a few weeks of vacation leave, so I wouldn't really get another chance unless I quit my job or work for an international company and get relocated there.
Anonymous No.2805838 >>2806026
>>2805081
Yes. They over hired during 20-22. Even before that, they preferred foreign grads because STEM-OPT made them cheaper. Then Biden changed the tax rules around engineer work and R&D, so engineers became even more expensive to hire.

There's basically no reason to hire a junior developer at this point. You do have the company you interned with to give you a CJO, right?
Anonymous No.2805848
>>2804955 (OP)
20k is nothing OP. You will burn through that in a year if you are being frugal. Please save up at least 100k before making a big move somewhere.
Anonymous No.2805861 >>2805865
is 60k a year remote enough to live in Japan comfortably
Anonymous No.2805865 >>2805885
>>2805861
in the coubtryside, yes.
in any city, no.
in the city you will encounter little “taxes” everywhere. especially as a foreigner. Japanese do not like foreigners and they have no anti-discrimination laws. Many landlords simply wont rent to you because having a foreigner in the buikdijg is undesirable. You will likely find yourself paying s very high rent for a very undesirable apartment in an undesirable area. Since you are culturally ignorant and likely Japanese illiterate, you will be constantly taken advantage of as a form of “revenge by 1000 cuts” because Japanese absolutely HATE foreigners. Especially Americans. the only exception is if you are Jewish. Japs know who Jews are and that they rule the workd
Anonymous No.2805885
>>2805865
you can get a shared apartment in some places for less than 50,000 yen per month. Food is not expensive either.
Anonymous No.2805901 >>2805902
>>2805832
Don't know what kind of job exactly you had in mind with that degree, but remember that it's getting harder and harder to get jobs as a junior developer. That's the area where the AI LLMs are taking over, with front end getting hit harder than backend right now.
Anonymous No.2805902 >>2805910
Why did this thread generate so much seethe?

>>2805901
I can't even get AI to generate a functional correct tiny snippet of code. It's absolutely useless.
Anonymous No.2805903 >>2805910 >>2805916 >>2805926 >>2807010
Thanks for all the replies but I think there is a bit of a disconnect between reality and what you all are posting.

I spoke with my dad and he said his dad knew of a good way to get a job just by teaching english or helping around bars. They supposedly love white men there and basically throw their hands up for anyone willing to teach. I think I am just going to move there and get some teaching job, doesn't seem hard given I grew up in america and speak it natively. I looked at that JET stuff but seems easier if I just solo it in some small town where they would obviously need it.

Thanks all
Anonymous No.2805910 >>2805915 >>2809616
>>2805903
Bizarre troll post
>>2805902
You're not doing it right
Anonymous No.2805915
>>2805910
I've built personal projects using AI including one that takes input data and generates study materal + tests. I use AI mostly as a search engine. I can't get it to do anything right. It's only good as a search engine now that they all suck and for sillytavern smut rps.
Anonymous No.2805916 >>2805930 >>2807027
>>2805903
>JET

oh man have fun
English teachers are the absolute lowest form of employment in Japan.
You will never get a girlfriend and you will be considered lower class than than Filipinos who work in food processing.

Your dad is remembering life before 500 million foreigners turned the Japanese cold to whites. Have you even been to Japan yet? I would honestly and unironically rather live in China. And I hate China.

FYI when you get to Japan you will still be a lonely white dork
Anonymous No.2805926 >>2805930
>>2805903
>JET
>2025
Nigga, you are going to be in poverty.
Anonymous No.2805930 >>2805940
>>2805916
>>2805926
Rather be in a free country than what the US has become, money isn't everything when you have freedom, cheap housing, and good women. Happiness is key
Anonymous No.2805940 >>2805942
>>2805930
You won’t have any of that. You are completely delusional. You are going to be saving you money so you can afford to go to a soaphouse twice a year.
Anonymous No.2805942
>>2805940
I think I'm starting to see why all these CS grads are putting the fries in the bag these days.
Anonymous No.2805949
Should I move to Japan and bang Japanese women? I hear they LOVE Korean men.
Anonymous No.2805967
Chennai is perfect for someone of your talents
Anonymous No.2805973 >>2807010
>>2804955 (OP)
1) Buy a bunch of Japanese themed clothes
2) Wear them
3) Fly to Reno, Nevada and get a shuttle to Bunny Ranch
4) Have 2K worth of crazy sex
5) Scream Domo Arigato every time you cum over a girls face or ass
6) Get a job and don't ruin your life
Anonymous No.2806026
>>2805838
>Then Biden changed the tax rules

> Section 174 Capitalization — one of the most radical components of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) which was enacted in 2017
nigger
Anonymous No.2807010
OP here, thank you all for your replies. I'm even more confused now
>>2805903
I didn't write this
>>2805973
Is it really that bad? I still retain the same skills and even do coding in my off time anyway
Anonymous No.2807011 >>2807018
What if i just go to a random third world country and live out my life there doing autism things? With that much money
Anonymous No.2807018
>>2807011
>20k
>much money
Lol lmao even
Anonymous No.2807021
Whats going to happen is that you're gonna go there, panic for a few weeks because you won't find anything, then you'll just be chilling until your 20k runs out. good luck finding a fully remote job in japan time zone for a fresh graduate, and that's speaking from experience. just view it as a 20k trip and thats it, but those last weeks before going back, the dread is gonna be awful trust me. find a remote job first, then go
Anonymous No.2807024 >>2807039
>>2804955 (OP)
I heard GoFUCKyourselfistan is a pretty up and coming place for remote workers
Anonymous No.2807027 >>2807250
>>2805916
Filipino who works in food processing here.
This is true, I earn about ¥5500 per hour while most people who does JET only get ¥1500 to ¥2000 per hour.
Anonymous No.2807039 >>2807252
>>2807024
>turdie cope
What shithole are you from? Ill intentionally stop by this year on my rounds just so I can mog and laugh at your "people"
Anonymous No.2807250
>>2807027
>a Filipino makes more money than some white dork English teachers
Fucking LOL and based
Anonymous No.2807252
>>2807039
>What shithole are you from
Probably Seattle lmaooooo
Anonymous No.2809582 >>2809608
>>2804955 (OP)
Don't make the mistake I made. Find a place you want to live. A place with stores in walking distance, beach, lake, whatever you're into. And buy a home.
Anonymous No.2809608
>>2809582
>Find a place you want to live. A place with stores in walking distance, beach, lake, whatever you're into. And buy a home.
wait so is this the mistake or the thing to do?
Anonymous No.2809612
>>2804955 (OP)
CS job market has cratered, good luck bro.
Anonymous No.2809616
>>2805910
>You're not doing it right
Neither is AI. Seriously, a few months ago someone had one of the AI tools generate code for a crypto wallet search, and the result was code that didn't even call the necessary library functions to do SHA256 hashes. AI just spits out garbage sort of like what it thinks you would expect and then (virtually) smiles at you and says "saar here is the needful". Unironically jeets are better coders than AI.

Same schtick in law. I've lost count of all the dumbfuck lawyers who have generated briefs using AI, turned them in, and found out that the cited cases don't exist or don't say anything like what AI claims they do.

The AI crowd calls this "hallucinating" but I call it "making shit up that has the format expected but none of the substance."