Thread 2814840

R.I.P. Ride Rockit edition

>Last Thread: >>2808944

>What is this thread? Why are there two companies?
Disney parks were initially founded as a way to celebrate the culture and history of America and provide middle class families with a fun-filled immersive experience. While theme parks are the main focus of these threads (and the title of the general) there is also discussion on other roller coasters & rides, as well as the parks themselves and trip planning too. That's where /rcg/ comes in.
>Can I talk about Disney/Universal parks in this thread?
Absolutely! Disney and Universal are currently competing for the Orlando theme park market and beyond! Universal is opening new resorts all around the US and new continents!

Park Crowd Tracker:
>https://queue-times.com/en-US/parks

Roller Coaster Database:
>https://rcdb.com/

Amusement Park News Sites:
>https://www.themeparkinsider.com/
>https://www.screamscape.com/
>https://www.coaster101.com/

Disney Park News:
>https://www.wdwnt.com/
>https://www.wdwmagic.com/
>https://www.allears.net
>https://www.mousesteps.com

Universal Park News:
>https://www.insideuniversal.net

>>2814840 (OP)
Sad video. I genuinely did enjoy this ride.

What order to you guys recommend hitting the four Disney World parks in a five day trip? We have park hopper tickets so we can be flexible, but we might need Lightning Lane and we'd need to know ahead of time where we're going to reserve our first three rides.

>>2814847
Can be done but you risk being knackered, especially after Epcot (everyone always underestimates how much walking there is with that park).

You know a fairground's a death trap when the Wacky Worm crashes

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy0lygv2w9o

>>2814848
I mean we've got five days so I'm sure we'll be able to do everything we want to do while being able to rest when we need to. I just wondered if anyone had suggestions for what order to visit them.

Is Seven Dwarves Mine Train even worth riding? It looks kind of lame.

>>2814856
It's ok if you can get it for a 20 minute wait (only on rope drop). It's just stupidly short and gets insane queues because it's an all ages coaster

>>2814857
Yeah. If I'm there at opening I'm probably going to Tron though, and then I'd probably prioritize Peter Pan and Jungle Cruise over Seven Dwarves. I don't know, maybe we'll get to it.

Delicious Disney World cuisine

>>2814840 (OP)
>This kills the coaster.
>>2814860
You can try to hop in the line at the end of the night, but your time is better spent doing virtually anything else the rest of the day. Seven Dwarves is the biggest normalfag trap in the park.

>>2814864
That's what I figured. The dwarves in the mine look cool but I don't think it's worth 45 minutes, which seems to be the absolute minimum most of the time.

Threadly list of major Disney/Universal Theme Park dates/announcements.
Florida:
>Zootopia show opening in Tree of Life Theatre late 2025
>Monsters Inc. area 2027?
>No date announced for Dinosaur!/Boneyard closing (early 2026 expected)
>Front Tire Land replaces Tom Sawyer Island circa 2028
>Liberty Belle future plans unknown, but intact as of Aug 16, 2025
>Big Thunder Mountain (Florida) refurb finishes in 2026
>Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin refurb until sometime 2026
>Blizzard Beach closed for the season on Sept 8
>Disney resort guests have FREE water park admission on their check-in day in 2025.
>Hollywood Rip Ride Rocket (in Florida) closes 5ever August 28, 2025
>Volcano Bay major refurb starts Oct 26, 2025

California:
>Fast and Furious roller coaster opens in Hollywood sometime in 2026
>Walt Disney animatronic show open noe. Lincoln returning later.
>Mike & Sully closing 2026, becoming Avatar ride

Both:
>Millenium Falcon: Smuggler's Run gets the flight rethemed to Mandalorian May 22, 2026

Europe:
>Disney Village & Disney Adventure World (Paris) overhauls with Frozen and Mary Poppins expansion at Paris to be completed 2026
>Lion King Splash Mountain water ride at Paris Studio park, late 2027 at the earliest
>Universal UK set for 2031

Asia:
>Multi-launch Spider-man coaster at Shanghai DL, no date yet
>Spider-Man Drop Tower at Hong Kong DL, Doc Ock at some point
>Wreck-It-Ralph omnirover shooter replaces the already closed Buzz Lightyear in Tokyo by April 2026
>Tokyo Disneyland Space Mountain currently closed until 2027 for complete ground-up rebuild
>Tokyo maybe razing Adventureland 2026 or later?

>>2814868
Crap, I had the RRR date off by 10 days. It doesn't close on Aug 28, it is already ded.

>>2814870
Boneyard is closing September 2 also.

>>2814862
You can get vegan cheese that properly melts and that's what they choose? At least add some diced/sliced tomato

The Fullyautomatix coaster is open at Parc Asterix now. Fun looking family spinner that doesn't just do either a wild mouse layout or big drops and big halfpipes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kT3zOnqeMg

>DEEP LORE
B&M designed the trains for the now-defunct Psyclone at SFMM

>>2814872
fug

>>2814872
What’s the boneyard and where is it at?

>>2814900
It's the kid's playground right next to Dinosaur! in AK.
Great and incredibly well-themed with the structures looking like scaffolding.
Slides are decent, a bunch of interactive effects, and a bug ol' sandbox across the dino skeleton bridge.
Probably second only to the Honey I Shrunk the Kids playground at Disney MGM for being the best playground disney has built for kids.
Too bad they don't care about kids anymore.
I think the only themed one left is the Space Base in Mission Space, which is basically a 90s Chuck-E-Cheese structure.
Some resorts, (specifically Coronado Springs, Port Orleans, Art of Animation, and Animal Kingdom Lodge) have themed play areas still, but the rest are quite generic.

>>2814847
Assuming full days and staying onsite

Magic Kingdom
Epcot
Animal Kingdom in the morning then back to hotel to rest or hit up Disney Springs
Hollywood Studios in the morning then quick bus to Epcot to eat what you couldn't the first time and watch the night show
Hit up a water park if you're into that or just chill at resort, finish at Magic kingdom

Starting and ending with MK is really the only must-do in my opinion. It's inarguably the primary park. AK and HS are jokes especially if you're visiting within the next several months so there's plenty of opportunity to rest.

>>2814856
I like it more than most people here but obviously not worth the 70minute wait. However between 7D and Tron, 7D is way more tolerable to rawdog the standby. So if you're forced to pick LL between those two do Tron, but still make some effort to ride 7D. In my experience Peter Pan hasn't been so bad lately, it seems to fluctuate.

>>2814905
>Hit up a water park if you're into that or just chill at resort, finish at Magic kingdom
Reminder that admission is included to a water park on check-in day.
If you get into town early enough, dump your stuff at the resort and head straight to one.

>>2814905
To add some complications, don't do Magic Kingdom at the weekend

>>2814840 (OP)
Good riddance. Clearly for a couple of you it was babby’s first real coaster. Guessing that’s because Hulk and the Dragons had a 54” height requirement. Nothing else explains why you would get defensive and emotional over this objectively awful eyesore. Press S to spit on its corpse.

>>2814847
>>2814905
>>2814907
7-8 days are the minimum for Orlando and you need to do only this stuff in this order:
>Saturday:
Gatorland
Fun Spot Kissimmee/Orlando
>Sunday:
SeaWorld Orlando
>Monday:
Islands of Adventure
Universal Studios Florida
>Tuesday:
Epic Universe
>Wednesday:
Magic Kingdom
>Thursday:
Epcot
>Friday:
Disney's Hollywood Studios
Finish the week with Fantasmic at the end of the day

>>2814856
As a coaster, no. As a dark ride, it’s still kinda lame because it’s one scene with mannequins with screens for faces. The train cars rock from side to side but you don’t really feel it unless you purposely rock it while on the brake run. Just watch it on YouTube.

>>2814905
Peter Pan is a short mannequin dark ride with shit capacity. I would also watch this one on YouTube.

>>2814955
It's ok if you were too fat to ride it we won't judge

FIGHT....AND WIIIIIIIIIIIN

Definitive North America parks tier list

>>2815160
why does AK get such low ratings? AK is probably my favourite disney park, i like seeing the animals and expedition everest is such a sick coaster

>>2815160
>Busch gardens tampa over Magic Kingdom
You love elbow-deep-slaw, do you?
Either way I can't imagine having the time to actually visit all these.

>ending the last thread bitching about HHN

Sensitivity to lights and sound is a telltale sign of autism.

>>2815160
Exquisite bait

>>2815225
>Disneyland over Magic Kingdom for the castle parks
>IOA over Epic Universe
>Animal Kingdom and California Adventure only having only 4-5 rides makes them mid
seems pretty fair and balanced to me

>>2815160
This is false.
Anyone who goes to Mt. Olympus and rides Zeus has so much brain damage that it can't get tiered lower than mid.

>>2815173
It's a zoo with a big jeep ride, a train to a petting zoo, a roller coaster, a raft ride, a acrobatics show, a puppet show, a destroyed flat ride zone, a dark ride, an almost destroyed kids' playground, a closed 3D movie, a dark water ride with a single neat animatronic, and a fully CG soarin' knockoff.
One of the best Zoos +bonus features in the country for sure.
But theme park? Eh.

>>2815229
And then you get to the regional and independent parks, and it's a clusterfuck of nonsense except for the legendary and worst tiers.

>>2815235
Like how the hell is Arnolds Park the highest of the three Iowa parks?

>>2815160
>>2815229
Lagoon has no business being that high. $90 for one good ride

>>2815234
>One of the best Zoos
it's a zoo for people who don't like zoos. I'd probably say even busch gardens tampa is better for the animal side of things. Zootampa easily mogs both. and I'm sure there's gotta be better zoos outside of Florida I've never been to. Hell I've been to a small local zoo in North Dakota with more animal variety than AK. Only zoo thing AK really does better than anything else is the safari truck tour.

>>2815178
I just picture some obese black mammy with her fat arm deep in that slaw. I ate here recently but didn’t get slaw with anything thankfully. I probably unknowingly ate roaches though.

The list is crap but I think Busch Gardens at “full strength” is better than the MK. It’s just never at full strength. If they could get everything working and put $1-$2 million in infrastructure upgrades and cleanup in addition to something new from that recent survey, I would even consider it a contender for the top park in Florida. At least for somebody like me who loves coasters. They would probably have to bring back the other non-coaster stuff for others to consider it in the running. But we are never going to get this with private equity ownership. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I wish Disney or Universal would acquire the chain.

>>2815254
I can see BGT being a top park for a thoosie, but it will never not be staffed by stoner blacks.

On the subject of staff, is it just me or are ALL Disney quick service joints staffed by clumsy literally-autistic college students? Is the turnaround for employees really bad? It never seems like those places have their shit together.
In general I feel the "Disney customer service is so good and staff are super friendly" meme has run its course. I would bet most of the positive reviews deal with employees who have 'fun' positions. Like the recent top fan-favorite employee award went to a photopass guy.

>>2815263
If you’re a culinary major on their college program, they will most likely stick you in quick service. It’s high turnover. When I was on the college program I had a roommate (for 2 days) and also met another culinary major and both were assigned quick service and they quit right away for false advertising. Only the ones assigned to full service restaurant kitchens stuck around. Those kitchens are all miserable and hot. Cosmic Rays is one of the worst but there are some tight tiny areas (like the place used for tortuga tavern). A huge portion of these college program employees (the men at least) were gay and that still seems to be the case. That Disney customer service and hospitality thing is often a lot of flamboyant gay exuberance

>>2815236
It isn't. Adventureland is in the same tier and Lost Island aka Empty Island is a tier below where it should be

>>2815250
>one good ride
It's not the ride lineup (which is still ace) that counts as much as the uniqueness of the park itself and the mormon charm.
>Cannibal
>Primordial
>One of the oldest woodies in the US
>A decent/underrated Schwarzkopf
>Two classic Bill Tracy dark rides, with basically only two others operating elsewhere with original stunts
>An excellent flats collection

I went to Universal Orlando this week. Here is a list of what sucks at the parks.

>Cat in the Hat is in a state of complete disarray.
Either needs a total revamp or, ideally, to be replaced with a much better ride. The Grinch is still a big money maker for the park and a Mount Crumpet family coaster would fit in that plot of land. Cat in the Hat is gross. It cant even be appreciate ironically like Supercharged. I felt like I needed a shower after riding it. I'm shocked the Seuss estate hasnt given Comcast shit over it. Maybe they dont visit and just cash the royalty checks, but goddamn is it bad.

>Studios is devoid of its soul
Studios was the "ride the movies" park and now it's just a purgatory space for disparate IPs with a mishmash of types of lands, rides, themed spaces, and the old facades from the park's original vision. It's schizophrenia expressed as themed park. You have Diagon Alley which is the prototype for Epic Universe and right next to that is a Fast and Furious ride that takes place in San Francisco despite FAF taking place in LA. The park similarly has a LA area but that area is home to a Jason Bourne stunt show despite the Jason Bourne films taking place in DC and London. Not a single goddamn thing in the whole park cohesively fits. Even The Mummy (the only 10/10 ride there) is duct tape retrofit into a new york city museum because they wanted the Kong building. I dont think the park is fixable without putting several billion into a total overhaul of every area, but at that price just make a new park altogether. If it wasn't for HHN and being next door to Islands, they would be in serious trouble. The next 5 big expansions Universal does need to go here cause there's no reason to visit it unless you're going to HHN and can just ride Mummy then.

Other than that it's just the typical stuff people always point out. Fallon and Supercharged are abysmal but looks like Supercharged is leaving thankfully.

>>2815287
It’s still too expensive, a day cost the same amount as Cedar Flags pass that works at every Cedar Flags park through the end of 2026. Lagoon isn’t even as good of a park as the mid tier Cedar Flags parks. It’s just got no competition writhin a several hundred mile radius

Penguins

I wonder if they have a model to expand EU and Studios at the same time.

>>2815291
I thought Fast and Furious was more of a globetrotting franchise that can take place anywhere cars can do increasingly crazier stunts while Vin Diesel constantly shouts the word family.

>>2815300
The thing about street fights, the street always wins.

>>2815298
>Scooter's Uncle owns G-Force Records now
>Last we ever heard of him before this was the Very Merry Muppet Christmas movie having him die off screen

>>2815302
Heh...I live for this shit.

>>2815296
I think they charge so much because they want upper middle class guests and $90 a ticket will keep the poors out, leading to a better experience for everyone

Big Thunder Mountain Railroad’s revamp at Magic Kingdom is focusing more ok the haunted/horror aspect
They are likely using it as a transition to Villians Land
https://disneyparksblog.com/wdw/new-magic-coming-to-big-thunder-mountain-railroad-at-disney-world/

>>2815320
yfw bald mountain ends up being a re-theme of big thunder and the rest of villains land is one giant outdoor extension of memento mori.

>>2815320
Disney pisses me off so much. They have all the technology, patents, artists and money to make the most mind blowing kino imaginable and they just fuck up the delivery so hard because they dont have a visionary white guy at the top that has a profound love for thematic entertainment. Too much administration and bureaucracy and too many diverse voices pulling it all to a net aggregate of zero improvement.

They just need a fucking dude who has a cool idea and finds the "Rolly Cromp" autist necessary to bring it to life.

A horror BTMRR sounds so fucking kino but I'm 100% confident it's gonna be dogshit purely because of who is quarterbacking the endeavor.

>>2815320
Did they really need a whole article just to say that they're going to projection map the 1st lift hill

>>2815335
S H A R E H O L D E R V A L U E

B R A N D E N G A G E M E N T

>>2815333
What would you even want from a horror btm? Firstly it sounds stupid, it was never meant to be like that. How many normies are even aware that the trains are technically supposed to be haunted ghost trains? There's definitely room to expand on that "ooo spookyyy" aspect but that's not really horror.

>>2815333
It won't be dogshit but it'll be gimped by budget cuts. Apparently the water and fountains in the cave have been cut already and replaced by LEDs. Overall the changes are interesting and it seems to be a good middle ground of slightly spooky but still not too spooky for kids. Just because you're fat with Asperger's don't forget this is a family coaster designed for kids as young as 3. They can't go too far in the horror direction.

>>2815310
I think they charge that much because they have no competition and can get away with it. Dollywood and SDC are $92 but unlike Lagoon you can get a 3 day pass for $132 if you use them in a 5 day period. $122 for 2 days and there is a separate promo for certain days where you can get 2 days for the price of one. Sometimes the waterpark is included. They’re also way better parks than Lagoon. Dollywood is attracting some of the Disney crown (including Disney adults sadly)

>>2815320
>>2815333
>>2815350
>>2815355
>horror
A word not used once in that blog post

>>2814847
Just make sure Magic Kingdom is not on the weekend.

>>2814905
I’d prefer Tron since it’s inside or shaded, the queue is cool and the line keeps moving. 7D has shit capacity.

>>2814955
Hulk is boring besides the launch. Dragons was boring when not synced. RRR had some unique elements at least.

>>2815369
The tron queue is kinda shit until you get to the load room at which point your wait is like 20 minutes, so the other 50 minutes is either outside or in hallways even more boring than space mountain
I could be mistaken since it's been a while but I was sure that 7D had more air conditioned queue than Tron, also it's just nicer to look at throughout.

>>2815160
Why is Knoebels so much higher than Holiday World?

>>2815291
Cat in the Hat is perfect other than all the cameras being obviously visible.

>>2815371
>hallways even more boring than space mountain
Holy filtered.

Horror Nights at Hollywood is getting the Chainsaw Man 4-D show that first showed up in Japan. What are the chances they bring that Resident Evil show over here anytime soon? HHN is looking pretty damn good this year bros, what can I expect since this is the first time I go during the first weekend.

>>2815376
dude you cant pretend this looks good, it's honestly embarassing. only the "preshow room" saves the queue

>>2815370
When Dragons was synced it was one of the GOATs and Hulk’s first half is anything but boring. It might be the same cookie cutter 90s B&M elements found on Kumba and Kraken but they’re arranged in a very intense and unique order. RRR was pretty boring if not for the music. Even if it beat Fury to having a trebel clef it’s nothing like the one on Fury.

>>2815363
Yeah no shit. That's why I used the word spooky and called him retarded for saying big thunder should be "horror" related.

>>2815381
I can and I will.

>>2815382
>When Dragons was synced it was one of the GOATs
Well they stopped syncing it. Then it was just another Bore&M.
>but they’re arranged in a very intense and unique order
No they aren’t. The launch is cool. No one disputes that. But everything else is just standard Bore&M elements you’ve already ridden 200 times before.
>RRR was pretty boring if not for the music
Well it had music so it wasn’t boring. Plus the lift hill was more exciting than anything on un-synced Dragons or post-launch Hulk.

>>2815381
I don’t even remember this. Is it still there? I remember reading that something peeled off shortly after opening. The only thing I remember was some area where everything was shiny, the lockers that had the aesthetic of these walls, and the launch area which looked and sounded cooler than it was. There is a thread on the coaster subreddit right now arguing if the RnRC launch is the most intense in Florida and most of the replies vehemently disagree and some say Tron is more intense. I think these people are fucking retarded. Even VC doesn’t have the same punchiness despite on paper accelerating faster (if that’s true). RnRC uses LIMs and a catch car and people were saying Pipeline, Tron, and even fucking Slinky Dog were better. I get it if people like the speed boost on Cheetah Hunt, VC, and Stardust. It’s fun. But that’s not what’s being argued here. The industry settled on LSMs but LIMs were punchier

>>2815387
Listen. Fuck you. Okay. Stop being an autistic fucking gatekeeper when it comes to this shit. You were absolutely fucking LYING in the last thread claiming you rode Siren’s Curse and the tilt drop was inferior to a dive coaster because you were “sitting down in a seat” despite the fact that there is no fucking sitting when that thing raises you are out of your seat and dangling by the vest. If you’re in the middle or back you get lifted up and raised. You would know this if you rode it but you pretended you rode it to argue that the sensation was something that it was not. And you said it wasn’t like a drop tower even though there is absolutely a free fall you don’t feel on a dice coaster. So fuck right off. You’re the type who doesn’t admit to being wrong I can tell. So if you were to ride it tomorrow you would still try to argue that your original assertion is correct via some sort of mental gymnastics that even you yourself do not believe.

>>2815388
The tron launch doesn't knock you back but it seems to accelerate for forever
But my experience with launch coasters is really limited, haven't done RnRC yet cause im a pussy and the hard launch is intimidating

Thinking about a Europe trip next year.
>one week UK, Alton and Thorpe plus some other stuff
>fly down to the continent, do Plopsaland, Walibi x2, Phantasia, Europa, Holiday Park
>somehow squeeze in Energylandia even though it’s way out of the way

>>2815391
Oh it’s you again. I haven’t even read your reply in the last thread but it’s on my to do list. I’ll probably get to it tomorrow or Saturday. Anyway the topic is Bore&M rides, not your silly family coaster.

>>2815373
Because Holiday World has like four coasters which are good but not great besides Voyage, free drinks and hardly anything else to offer.
Knoebels has it all. Two of the best woodies out there, one of the best classic dark rides in the world, one of the best collections of flats in the world and the added bonus of being free admission and in the Poconos making it one of the most picturesque parks. It also feels legitimately like a frozen in time capsule unlike most of the other surviving classic parks which have been modernized in one way or another over the years.

>>2815363
Haunted Mansion is also horror
Disney horror gives up the certain impression of more campy spooky content then anything

>>2815404
I think you’re selling Holiday World short on its theming, plus that drone show. I also assume the water park is good but I didn’t go there.

Knoebels is better for sure but I view these parks as very similar - independent middle of nowhere family parks where only whites are allowed.

>>2815405
Shut up

20 years ago

>>2815298
Oh I think this looks pretty cool actually.

>>2815413
I remember going on Six Flags websites as a kid just to look at the rides and coasters across the country. I'd also Google random Disney rides just to look at the pictures. My autism has ended for almost 3 decades.

>>2814904
>Honey I Shrunk the Kids playground dead.
>Tom Sawyer Island dead.
>Boneyard soon to be dead.
Honestly, it's depressing that Disney has killed virtually all of their themed playgrounds. Those things were my favorite as a kid. I don't understand why people think little Timmy will have more fun waiting in line for Seven Dwarves for 2 hours than running around caves and giant spider webs.

>>2815530
It does suck. I remember the honey I shrunk the kids playground very strongly.

>>2815530
they must do a lot for eating up crowds as well since its not just the kids its the parents that occupy them also.

>>2815530
They don't generate LL gibs, as simple as that.

>>2815375
Needs the original spin intensity back

>>2815395
Think I will add in Disneyland Paris and Legendaria.

retards pretending the storybook circus splash pad + dumbo playground + swiss family treehouse don't exist
I do agree that they could afford to offer more play areas for kids instead of building fuckin bars everywhere. It's just so stupid that people clap like seals getting sold overpriced alcoholic sugar water. yet they wont shut up about how disney tears down everything that can't sell LLs.
And the treehouse should get an update that adds a real play area at ground level instead of just being a walkthrough attraction. Or at least more interactive elements in the tree itself. Would compliment the nearby misting tiki statues as a place kids want to be

>>2815567
Could also add parc asterix, especially if you want to make it a road trip and take the ferry from Dover to calais

>>2815571
How long do you think this would take? I was hoping 2 weeks but it’s looking more like 3. Even if I cut out UK besides the parks. Plus I’d probably feel like uncultured swine if I didn’t do a museum or some shit in Paris, never been.

Is Energylandia and Legendaria worth it? I just read Energylandia is basically a six flags. No/bad theming. But there is a steak place in Katowice I’ve been dying to get back to.

Are these lines a little long for this time of the year?

>>2814868
Summary of junk announced in the last 48 hours:
>Zootopia 3D movie opens Nov 7.
>It's themed to a livestream watch party
>No mention of animatronics, not even the free-skating Judy Hopps.
lol
>Rainbow Caverns from the Mine Train through Nature's Wonderland actually going to be in Big Thunder Mountain WDW after the refurb
>Rock n' Rollercoaster Muppet overhaul will be very fast turnaround, opening sometime 2026, no closing date for Aerosmith announced yet.
>Animation Courtyard overhaul starts Sep 25
>Holy shit Hollywood Studios will be a half-day park this winter lmao
>Also pirate pub opens next week or some shit.

>>2815582
Mexico boat ride seems long.
The rest are normal or better.

>>2815582
Oh, wait, is that an hour for Mission: Space? That's weird, it is usually a walk-on.

>>2815582
>guardians 5 minutes longer than mission space

Alien Swirling Saucers should not be the same wait time as Slinky Dog Dash.

Feels weird that 1. you’d have to be a complete contrarian to claim the Star Wars sequels were good. 2. you’d have to be a complete contrarian to claim RotR is not great. Imagine how legendary that ride would be if the films didn’t suck.

>>2815603
Imagine how good the Star wars zones would be with a 1-year remodel to be Mos Eisley/Mos Espa and be set during the original trilogy.

>>2815605
This type of cheap lazy retheme is something they’re known for but I don’t think it’s acceptable with SW. They can’t just change it to Mos Eisley or change Rise to the Death Star. Need a lot longer than a year for that

>>2815613
>Rise to the Death Star
It would be your ship being pulled into the Star Destroyer from the beginning of A New Hope under the assumption that you had the droids Vader wanted.
No need to overhaul the ride itself much. Swap Ren for Vader, new videos and you're done.
The rides have always played fast and loose with canon (see the Death Star in the original Star Tours), it would work fine

>>2815605
The land itself is fine and doesn't need a change. If anything it just needs more stuff, another ride and more entertainment offerings that were going to be there until they got cut. I do agree they should just say screw the timeline and throw all the characters out there, I mean Star Tours (goat ride) already jumps around to like 5 different eras on each ride and no one cares because it's fun. People are willing to suspend their disbelief because it's impossible for virtually any theme park land to make any kind of real sense when you really think about it.

>>2815617
The walls and everything don’t match an OT star destroyer. Normies wouldn’t know the difference but normies don’t care what trilogy is represented either.

>>2815624
I don’t think there’s room in the Disneyland version. There are options at WDW version if they move some of the buildings behind it. I would like to see a Hagrid’s competitor. Either Intamin like Hagrid’s or Vekoma since Vekoma can make something just as good and even smoother. Speeder bikes, which ironically was the inspiration for Hagrid’s. Doesn’t have to be RotJ Endor, they can make it fit their stupid canon. Put some barrel roll inversions on it too so the Disney fags shit themselves in terror for two horrors in line for it. “It goes upside down!!!”

I heard Disney is wondering why their products don't appeal to young men. It's a real mystery.

>>2815587
>Mexico boat ride seems long.
Think that might be the Frozen M&G, Mexico boat ride at 5mins is more sensible

Beak and Barrel is actually looking really good. It, dare I say, night be better than Trader Sam's.
https://x.com/ScottGustin/status/1958951658454753382?t=zqbGtzOB49RoFUc7VoCHnw&s=19

>>2814840 (OP)
should I do dollywood or busch gardens?

>>2815657
Dollywood

>>2815651
Rare time Disney concept art is fully realized.
Even though I hate the boozing of WDW I have to admit this looks really cool.

This gives me faith if Disney ever decided to turn Florida's Tiki Room into a highly themed restaurant. It would be a dumb idea given that one could simply eat at Poly, and Adventureland is half eateries now. However, in a bubble I approve as long as the detail was on the level of this bar and of course the birds were retained and given a new show that plays out overhead.

>>2815651
Looks cool but they really need to have alcohol stands located all over the park like Disney Springs. And don’t give me any of that “kids park” bullshit. It costs $170 fucking dollars (or more) most days. What’s so different about this place compared to the other parks anymore? Nothing. So sell the parents some fucking booze and they won’t be so miserable or bored on the mannequin rides

>>2815662
I'm just hoping it's a sign that moving forward they're done with all of their gay minimalism and back to their old ways of proper theming and actually trying. Test Track update was pretty good too. Maybe they're done being gay and retarded?

>>2815665
>Maybe they're done being gay and retarded?
They saw the Dracula restaurant at epic and decided to not fuck up.

>>2815664
Kill yourself

>>2815668
He's right tho. Disney is no longer a kids park. It's a family park and mommy needs her wine

>>2815669
No they don't

>>2815657
Can’t really go wrong with either. Busch Gardens Williamsburg is my favorite park. Absurdly short lines for the quality of coasters they have.

>>2815642
They should be forced to course correct and stop making shitty films but their catalog is so deep they could not probably not put out a single good film for 50 years and still have plenty of park attendance.

>>2815657
Which Busch Gardens?

>>2815668
I like to drink. I would like to drink in the MK without sneaking it in. It’s more fun. It generates a lot of money. They already do it in the other parks so who gives a shit? Why do you care? And >>2815669 is right, mommy needs her wine. The traditional excuse of “Walt didn’t want it” is irrelevant since they’ve had it in table service for years. Also the kids park excuse is uber gay it’s not a kids park. Peppa Pig Theme Park is a kids park. And I’m pretty sure even they sell alcohol, I know Legoland does. Don’t be such a party pooping prude like one of those dry southern baptist retards who believe in rapture nonsense and worship Israel and jews. Or that bearded weirdo on /pol/ who doesn’t drink or fap and wants to kill people who do. Is that you? Or maybe you’re just muslim.

>>2815686
Being an alcoholfag is more manchildish than doing character meets as an adult
Not once did I play the purity angle, fuckwad

>>2815687
Why do you care? Again they have bars and stands and sell it at quick service in all the other parks including the water parks and Disney Springs. Why does it bother you if not for purity reasons? There is no difference between these parks anymore and it doesn’t make sense. They sell it in table service restaurants, they have unlimited beer and wine at the fireworks dessert buffet, and now they’re building a bar/lounge. So why shouldn’t the Cheshire Cat snack place or Cosmic Rays sell Yuengling or whatever like all the other parks do? It doesn’t make sense. It’s not going to increase drunks much, there are already drunks there who snuck it in or had it before they came. Or drunks on the way out after the desert thing. Double fisting beers makes the hour long line go faster

>>2815686
>>2815690
>t. addict
The world doesn't need to cater to alkies, look at this guy bragging that it will make the corporation more money. Absolutely pathetic

>>2815690
>why do you care if the only thing Disney is worried about is shitting out bars because they are insanely profitable?
It's as if drinking booze is all that adults do. I just have zero interest in it but it has to seep into everywhere. Like I was kinda getting at with my Tiki room spiel earlier, this effort could be going to other things that need improvement. The Pirates gift shop was not a priority but Disney chose it for money. They did a really good job with it I must admit but they were willing to do so because they knew it was a cash cow.

express pass now works at ministry and donkey kong

>>2815749
I hate express so much.

>>2814840 (OP)
ATTN
REVIEW
Mickey Not so Scary Party


Its amazing how much things can change in just a decade. The last time I went to this party, it was really cheap and I was very thin, young and beautiful. Anyhow, I was honestly impressed. Still nobody does it like Disney. Someone really did clean the place up. Everything looks clean. The plants and gardens look wonderful. Tron was amazing. However, I was too big for the bike. It was very jarring to realize that I've let myself go that bad. If you can get over bruised feelings, the seat they have for fatties is actually better than being strapped to the bike. It was a great ride but did feel like China in that they don't care if big people feel comfortable or not.
Its crazy that Space Mountain, a ride made in the 70s or 80s when nobody was fat, can easily fit fatties. I just kept thinking about how my stress and cortisol has been really high this past years and my body can't really take it.

There were a lot of either Portugues and Spanish speakers. I think its really rude to go to another country and then YAP loudly in your language. Hopefully ICE cleans up the problem.
Most guests were VERY polite. These people acted like Christians better than Christians act. Thats why you can't beat Disney. The culture once you step in there is still there. From when Walt was there. Customer Service was top tier. The employees despite low pay are extremely happy. They enjoy working that party. It has music ect. There is nothing like Disney. No other park keeps up with this. And its safe for very little children. Its a shame that so many from corporate are trying to ruin it with Woke.

I was very impressed.

Splash Mountain was now Tiana's Bayou. Admittedly I like the movie so I was kind of happy with the scenes and everything. It teaches people to work hard and appreciate family. I like that it involves a kind hearted black girl. I don't think it was right that Disney worked so hard to exclude blacks. (PT1)

>>2815958
I get it though. Anytime you have a goup that is different, there will be tension. THey left a lot of what was Splash Mountain. The stuff they added was cute. I don't know if it was done tastefully, the replacement of American culture, but it is what it is.
Thunder Mountain is still being renovated, and wasn't open.

Rides were not walk on but the wait times were very good, the way Disney should be.

I felt like the park has been updated for the new generations and that isn't a bad. thing.

One thing I greatly missed were the various dance parties they used to have around the park. They only had one dance party and it was inside of that hamburger place. We didn't go in and my friend said he didn't want to dance with toddlers.
I mostly focused on the rides and got to ride everything I wanted.
Overall it did not have a Halloween Fall feel however. The place looked great, but I think the heat and lack of something made it not feel that way, or even like it was a party.
I'm older so I couldn't help but think about my youth and the things I miss like the shooting gallery. They used to sell fun guns at the pirate shop. Stuff like that. But I think the new stuff is great. I kept wondering what Walt himself would think. The things he'd be impressed by and the things he'd hate...
I kinda wished there were more indoor rides simlilar to Mr Toad. the indoor ride area was extremely popular.
Whoever designed the Snow White ride was a genius. It is a perfect ride.

>>2815672
Busch Gardens where I live has really good wait times. Its such a beautiful park, with pretty gardens. We had a wonderful time when we went. The place looks clean except for the bird area which nearly made me throw up it smelled so bad. I think that the coasters are kinda wild. Its hard for those with very young children or elderly to enjoy the park because they're too much. They do have options like the zoo area but on a hot day I can see why people who are tiny humans or old humans wouldn't find it worth it. You see mostly families with middle school and teens. Disney you see people of all ages, due to the rides that are made for toddlers, ect.

>>2815642
There were a lot of young men when I went. But they always have a date. It is something they do for women. All the young men were married with kids or with dates.

>>2815958
>>2815962
>>2815968
>>2815969
Very unnatural posts

>>2814840 (OP)
https://youtu.be/ZaX17pL-cJE?feature=shared

>>2815970
Not sure what that means. Lol you should appreciate that I gave an extensive overview of the party.

>>2815970
"Unnatural " thats the most stupid insult I've ever read. At least come up with something more arguable.

>>2815958
I wanted to add that Disney had very beautiful, vibrant workers. I think they go out of their way to hire young, attractive people.

>>2814840 (OP)
I try not to support the Trackers anymore. I really hate Jenn's politics. I don't support Mammoth Club for the same reason. Anything LGBT I hate. BTW I didn't see nearly as many rainbow flags. I did see one or two male freaks who thought they were women but it wasn't scary.

>>2815692
>>2815693
If Magic Kingsom was dry like Dollywood (like it used to be) I would understand your argument. But MK isn’t dry, they just don’t sell it at food service places or at beer stands like they do at all their other parks and all their competitors parks. It doesn’t make sense to leave money on the table. It does nothing for the parks image when they already serve alcohol. Even all you can drink alcohol at the fireworks dessert. It doesn’t make sense when none of the 4 parks have a cohesive independent theme and are basically all extensions of each other. To whine about it is even more childish because it’s already there, it’s not going to become world showcase, the other two parks don’t have that problem. Plus the world showcase problem is highly exaggerated aside from a few obnoxious fsggots wearing matching shirts

>>2815958
>>2815962
>>2815975
>>2815976
>>2815988
All these tryhard bait posts are giving someone autistic prompting chatgpt to reference wdwmagic and micechat forums.
Idk if the alcoholics apologist is the same one posting this nonsense, but please stop either way. At least be entertaining if you're going to post cringe take nonsense ITT

>>2815977
I was kinda blown away when I found out just the other day that the guy who ran the DIS podcast which I used to watch a lot many years ago in high school was a gay drug-rapist getting sued by Amex over $1m dollars of fraud

Lately I'm into WDWNT/Tom Corless, he seems real enough but he very much seems like a racist pretending not to be a racist with how he talks about stuff in Frontierland. Like he brought up how supposedly there's a Native American caricature in one of the Big Thunder Mountain peaks and for the life of me I don't see it

>>2816016
Imagine being triggered this much by alcohol. Zoom, zoom

>>2815988
You put words in my mouth
>It doesn’t make sense to leave money on the table.
I know that. Disney can build bars everywhere and people will eat it up.
And again this Pirates bar isn't even an awful offense, it isn't stealing space from anything important and it looks cool. But I'll probably never step foot in it. The upcoming birdcage bar at Grand Floridian is gonna kill the vibe of that lobby though.

>>2816048
Then what’s your problem? I just want to be able to buy a beer or two at one of the quick service restaurants or a snack place like Cheshire Cafe or a free standing drink stand. Like you can at all the other parks and Disney Springs. It makes no sense not to do this, it’s an opportunity for them to make more money, especially if they make exclusive beers like Animal Kingdom has. They used to have no alcohol at all because Walt wanted it that way at Disneyland (even though Club 33 had alcohol), however, it’s been present for years. That’s the only point I’m trying to make, I don’t care if you don’t drink.

>>2815160
>hollywood studios above epcot and animal kingdom
>universal studios hollywood in good
>epic universe in great
might as well jangle your keys you nitwit

>>2816028
Tom is ok but he is the most thinskinned person on the internet and will frequently when criticized flail so hard he only comes out looking worse
he's also extremely left and just cancelled his late night parody so he can go on more holidays

>>2815568
Swiss Family Treehouse isn’t a kids play area and the few areas at Disney pale to what Universal has. Though Universal neutered KidZone its replacement is still better than anything found at Disney. Universal needs these playgrounds more than Disney because they don’t have much of anything under a 42” height requirement and almost nothing under 36” (speaking from experience… the playgrounds were still a hit though)

Jackie and Sam are the only theme park vloggers I like.

>>2815968
Which Busch?

>>2815298
I loved the aerosmith version but I also love the muppets, I think this will be a fun refurb

>>2815381
>he thinks this is better than the campy space windows
how?

>>2815642
does this character still exist? have they followed through on the initial batuu lore (like the comics and novel) or is it just a dumping ground for the characters people actually want to see now? I haven't thought about galaxies edge since I went in 2020

>>2816172
>I loved the aerosmith version but I also love the muppets
jfc

>>2815686
I grew up in a drinking culture but I don't actually drink that much, I still think it's nice to have the option. I don't understand why people whine about it so much, did they all get beaten by their drunk stepdads?

>>2814840 (OP)
I decided to watch this guy instead because he has a humble pesonality and I like that he doesn't get political for liberals.

https://youtu.be/P8Zv_5RZ_8c

>>2816180
at the risk of sounding r*ddit I think this guy is pretty comfy

>>2816028
they only targeted white men who are Conservative with the gay psyop. So these guys share American history and culture a lot but are never going to reproduce.

>>2816016
Nobody cares about your stupid opinions. If you don't like it ignore it . Disneyland is a happy place where people get healed from trauma that people like you create.

The theme parks in India are better actually.

>>2816133
She friendzoned Adam the Woo

>>2816176
My big issue is that it is in MK. Everywhere else I understand. When I grew up you did not need security at Disney. Now you do. MK is supposed to be for families and Walt Disney was very Conservative that way. what made Disney so successful was the art and purity of Walt. He wasn't just running a business for money, he was providing happiness and therapy.

>>2816183
bot

>>2816184
India has theme parks? Are they made out of poop?

>>2816184
Anything to keep you out of our country's parks.

>>2816191
botphobic bigot

>>2816186
>She friendzoned Adam the Woo
Lol I think some other chick he used to do videos with did the same. I genuinely wonder what his deal is. He seems like he's wearing a mask in his videos but maybe that's all there is to him. He seems to love theme parks but never goes on any ride with even moderate intensity. He passes on coasters unless they're Disney tier and even then I think they scare him. His only personality seems to be from movies he's watched. Maybe he just doesn't have a personality, idk.

>>2815254
Tampa has a lot of blacks but they are comfy. Southern. Fats don't go to Busch Gardens.

>>2815333
If you want something to succeed you need a white guy and not a Jewish white guy or even an Italian. You need an Anglo.

>>2815651
>https://x.com/ScottGustin/status/1958951658454753382?t=zqbGtzOB49RoFUc7VoCHnw&s=19
looks cozy. sonds like they control drunkards by limiting entry to those who pay for reservations

>>2815642
I'm kind of surprised because the women that work there are young and very beautiful white women.

>>2816188
Walt had little to nothing to do with the MK at WDW though. Ground was broken for construction of WDW in May of 1967, six months after Walt’s death. The no alcohol policy was honoring his wishes from Disneyland. When Epcot opened they served alcohol because it was a different park concept with an emphasis on international cuisine. Disneyland Paris didn’t offer it at first either but wine is part of local culture so it didn’t go over well and was quickly changed.

MK introduced alcohol with Be Our Guest in 2012 and then to their table service restaurants. It’s been there for 13 years now. Disneyland also introduced it to Blue Bayou and the Cantina in Star Wars land and thus Walt’s wishes are no longer honored anyways. But they still served it during his life at Club 33 so it wasn’t a zero tolerance policy to begin with. Security has always been at the MK, always. My entire life. I remember then in the 80s

>>2816201
I didn't know that he was already dead by the time they started MK, wow.

As far as club 33...if it was a club or an offshoot event I can understand alcohol. But not out and about with children and families. I already have an issue with the fact that men in skirts and dresses have started showing up at the park.

>>2814840 (OP)
Who has the best customer service poll
https://strawpoll.com/ajnE1Xe3knW

>>2816203
https://strawpoll.com/e6Z2AB5aJgN

>>2814840 (OP)
I realize now that I'm watching them side by side, that Tiana's Bayou Adventure feels like someone took a child picture book and turned it into a ride.
Tiana: Louis is up ahead! Let's find a band for our celebration! Turn the page
Louis: Calling all musicians! Man, it sure it hard to find a band! Turn the page
Tiana: They can play, no doubt! We'll ask them to join the band for sure.
You get the idea. It feels very much like a children 's-themed ride instead of a ride for everyone. Add that to the overall lack of animatronics throughout the ride and it feels more dull compared to Splash Mountain.

>>2814840 (OP)
Did they change the big drop on Splash? It felt different

>>2816196
Total bullshit

>>2816207
Yes, Tiana feels far more empty. They banked too hard on the few animatronics they made which seem overengineered if you've seen the BTS. Rather than focusing on density of characters to make it feel like a lived in community, it's scene and scene like you said.
All my seethe melts away at the finale scene - when it works.

>>2816184
The only thing I know about India's parks is that one Frisbee that snapped in half and to he honest that's all I really need to know

>>2816211
Would you rather bitch about roller coasters you pretended to go on?

>>2816195
>Maybe he doesn't have a personality
Is closeted gay manchild a personality type?
>>2816183
alcohol creates half the collective trauma in the world you complete shithead

>>2816237
>closeted
I suspect that's a possibility, but he really does seem to want to date the women he does videos with but they're not into him, mainly because the only things he can talk about are himself or pop culture

>>2816184
The vekoma boomerang that used to be in my home park is now in Hyderabad.

>>2816202
That’s why the statue at MK is Roy, not Walt.

>>2816203
Does this mean park workers or over the phone? If park workers it’s Disney and not even close. Universal’s are usually good but Disney’s are almost universally so. Busch shouldn’t even be an option.

If over the phone, I’ve only spoken to Disney and they were good.

>>2816215
Is the family scene when you get to the party? I somehow enjoyed Tiana’s even though it’s shit and I raged hard when Splash Mountain got removed. Just good music and whimsy.

>>2816257
>vekoma boomerang
Nothing of value was lost

>>2816258
They have both

>>2816263
Oh

>>2816261
Nothing at all. It hurt my head badly.

>>2815958
You can't call ICE on Brazilian tour groups, retard, they are tourists and probably have more money that you. And it's not rude for a tourist to "yap" in his own language, Americans do it all the time. If Brazilian tour groups annoy you so much just skip their summer vacation on Dec-March and go at any other time of the year.

>>2816368
They were all over universal this summer so I dont think you can really avoid them. Obama changed the visa program so they get fast-tracked to visit

Going to the Hobgoblin store. Y'all want anything?

>>2816201
I do not care for his wishes of no alcohol in the parks if he allowed his super secret club of rich elites to be served it.
Now anyone can buy it which is based

>>2816448
Yeah I'll take the $2,000 statue of Jake Gyllenhaal as Mysterio

>>2816207
It was designed for Disneyland originally which has a more compact layout than WDW does. Then George got kneeled on and they decided to essentially do the exact same thing in WDW without actually accounting for the difference in size, thus all the empty space. It was a quick change that wasn't originally planned but they felt "forced" to do it by the California faggots that work in Imagineering.

>>2816457
What are other examples of S-tier or A-tier attractions being destroyed by inferior re-themes? Journey into Imagination was A-tier IMO and that’s another one.

>>2816454
Agreed. Alcohol for me but not for thee is a selfish and elitist policy

14 days until my Disney World trip

>>2816180
>>2816181
Usually I hate overly-positive vloggers, but I like this guy for some reason. Not sure why, maybe he just feels more genuine.

Today the waits seem unusually short

>>2816503
They are, particularly slinky dog. Business as usual for rise though.

>>2816486
which park you most hyped for anon?

>>2814840 (OP)
I hate liberals so much.

>>2816503
>the Sunday before the kids are in their indoctrination centers

>>2816486
Tell us about it when you get back so we can live vicariously through you.

>>2814840 (OP)
Why is the UK like this

>>2816195
I think he just really never grew up. He has these memories of going with his Grandma and his boomer parents probably half heartedly raised him. He was the ET gen, which was raised with amazing entertainment options. I don't like being sloshed around on coasters myself so I relate to him that way. I think he just was unlucky in love. He seems very my way or the highway and used to be attractive in the past so he thinks that he can still get really pretty girls.

>>2816510
It's hard to say. I went as a kid but I was too scared to ride Tower of Terror. I am very excited to finally ride it. Hollywood Studios would be the park I'm most excited for by a mile if they still had the Great Movie Ride. I'm still looking forward to riding Rise of the Resistance though.

>>2816513
>ITM
“Popular Disney theme park to close”
(… at 9pm)

>>2816459
Country Bear Jamboree, Muppets, Tough to be a Bug, Soarin', etc etc

>>2816523
Tower of Terror is arguably the greatest ride on the planet. Perfect theme, perfect story, perfect amount of spooky, and perfect ride system. Love this lil nigga. Wish more of the park was themed to old Hollywood, it's so good and such a perfect theme park setting.

I just found this picture on google maps, are these the "original" characters to celestial park that were canned right before the park opened? (picture was taken in may) why is doc brown in dragon land? how have I not hear of this before? what the hell did I find?

>>2816604
Doc is responsible for Stardust Racers within the Celestial Park lore.

>>2816523
My parents forced me on it at age 6 and it scared me shitless. This year I rode it next to a 4 year old girl who was riding it for the third time that day. She made fun of me for screaming (the buildup on drop towers scares me though I usually enjoy the actual motion). She just looked kind of amused in the photo.
>>2816573
It’s pretty damn good. It was probably more perfect when it was only one drop, though it’s certainly more thrilling in its current form. An elevator dropping one time makes sense, though the same elevator jumping up and down does not.

>>2816573
A shame the other versions are just the drop shaft. I love Tokyo Disney's take on the ride, but the lack of the darkride segment and inclusion of fucking shoulder seatbelts bring it down.

>>2816649
Are they? That sounds bad.

>>2816604
Girl on the left is from HTTYD, not a Celestial character. No idea on Doc. Maybe a cosplay? Disney doesn't like people dressing up too similarly to characters but don't know Universal's policy.

>>2816571
at least they scrapped this one, Eisner special.

>>2816526
ITM is probably the worst single (non scam) clickbait site on the net. Everything on it is that shit. At least the other Disney park sites that struggle for content keep it to easily identifiable "top 10 wifi hotspots in the Art of Animation hotel" stuff that's isolated for the news.

>>2816649
Apparently the trackless system just had too much downtime so it got scrapped. Controversial take but I like it that every ToT is now different (but I can see it being annoying if you never really plan on doing more than one Disney location).

>California: GotG
>Florida: OG
>Tokyo: Non-ToT, Adventurer's society story
>Paris: creepy ghost girl with random story
>Shanghai: Spider-man

Cars doesn't belong in Magic Kingdom. I don't care if it was at Hollywood Studios or whatever, that park has no theme anymore anyway, but Cars is such a shit franchise, and I feel like it cheapens Magic Kingdom for Cars to even be part of it.

>>2816765
I could tolerate Tomorrowland Speedway getting a cars overlay, bonus points if they finally make the cars electric instead of the stinky gas they still are in 2025.
But why the complete opposite side of the park?

>>2816765
Blame all of Gen-Z and their parents who turned the most mid Pixar movie into a money making behemoth simply because they kept buying the toys and did not stop buying the toys.

>>2816808
>blame kids for liking a kid thing
Kill yourself. If you're going to blame anyone blame Jeff Vahle, he should be beaten to death for his crimes against the parks.

>>2816808
I blame the parents for not wanting to expose their kids to anything but the same slop over and over. The amount of shit along the lines of, "my little Billy doesn't even know who Tom Sawyer is," when this was announced was ridiculous. Yeah, you dumb broad, he doesn't know who Tom Sawyer is because YOU never gave him a chance to learn. I didn't know anything about Tom Sawyer or Huck Finn when I first went to TSI, but my parents took me anyway, and I got introduced to their stories in a fun and engaging way. It's not the kids' fault their tablet is more of a parental figure than their mothers and fathers.

>>2816809
Feisty little spastic aren't you?

>>2816700
Eisner was the end.

I am once again asking who the fuck spends $150+ to get into a theme park and then spends the day doing the arcade machines that are no different from your local Dave and Busters that can be accessed for $20

>>2816822
kids

>>2816822
People who aren't paying that $150. Also you can dump a kid in there whilst you do a coaster they don't want to do.

>>2816826
>>2816827
I get it, but at the same time the cost benefit analysis would drive me insane. I would rather they go to whatever play area is nearby or do something heavily themed like the rental RC boat attractions than spend money on arcade games my local bowling alley also offers.

>>2816822
I've wondered the same, especially considering how expensive they make the games. The only time it would make sense is waiting out some rain, and even then only if you weren't using that time to eat or watch a show (if the park has them).

>>2816765
You’re right. Going to be very different without RoA.

>>2816704
Why does the OG’s trackless system from the early 90s always work then?

>>2816841
It really didn't, it had massive frequent downtime in its early years and even now it has frequent issues bringing it down to 50% capacity.

California and paris have fewer issues and when they happen, they only lose 33% capacity.

>>2816808
If Cars never existed they would have replaced it with something else like Coco or something, that might have even been where Villains was
That is a move to remove the river and what would have been its impending maintenance more then adding Cars specifically

https://x.com/DLPReport/status/1958556886787137702

Blueprints for the Lion King ride are public now. Notable things I can see:

>3x3 seating with dual loading stations
>3 drops (small one, a very small one and the main one)
>main drop about the same height as splash mountain
>seems like it's shorter than every splash mountain but can't especially tell
>1 gift shop, one toilet block, one food kiosk with seating
>theming looks... sparse

Please don't be shit, Paris is long overdue a non-embarrassing attraction.

>>2816697
Doc is a part of the lore. He’s there to investigate.

The path of the riverboat at MK would have been perfect for a multilaunch coaster

>>2816822
because it's raining and they already used their express passes on the indoor rides and they have nothing to do.

>>2816833
>whatever play area is nearby
Better hope they aren't at Disney then.

>>2815686
Not to restart this argument but there's likely data showing that adults only go to World Showcase to drink and is the second most popular park despite having nearly nothing in it, so they don't want to pull those crowds out of EPCOT if it risks dropping it to the slowest park, even behind Animal Kingdom on days that are 100+ degrees. If they wanted to introduce drinks to MK full force, they'd add more rides to World Showcase.

>>2816896
I just don't know how this fits in that area at all. I know nuDis doesn't care, but still.

>>2816573
First theme park I went to was disneysea two years ago solo. at the time I had very recently gotten deep into theme parks through shit like defunctland but was basically going into disneysea blind. first ride I went on was tower of terror cause it only had 10 min wait at rope drop

I unironically didn’t know it was a drop tower until we started going up for the first time and had the moment of realization
i thought the reason we were getting strapped up in the elevator was because japan was soft and we were just going to be taken up slowly

needless to say it was very cool how I had the perfect immersive experience since I had 0 idea what was going to happen

Idea: dark coaster but just the track is lit by LEDS running along it. All the supports and surroundings are in complete darkness (and the light from the track makes it harder for your eyes to adjust and see them) so you're just riding in a void, only able to see the track ahead.

>come up to a dark section where the lights end
>train stops in darkness
>track lights come on ahead to show a big drop

>>2816896
>Sahara Splash Mountain
why tho?

>>2817067
Because they couldn't build a new Splash Mountain, Tiana's boat ride was a disaster and everyone loves the lion king.

>>2816970
The Super Disney Adventure World rebrand was aiming to make it more like Islands of Adventure.

You've got Pixar World, Avengers world, Hollywood World, Frozen Land and now Lion King land. Then you've a random tangled spinny ride, around the corner from two other spinning rides (with another yet to come after that)

It seems like the reopening of Test Track has increased the lines for Mission Space.

>>2817153
Mission Space is a great ride and only a pussy who can't handle the G forces would say otherwise

>>2817156
I'm a pussy who hates negative G/airtime so M:S is made just for me to enjoy. I can understand it not being anybody's favorite though, even ignoring motion sickness and muh claustrophobia. It's sort of a "zero cultural impact" attraction despite being great.

Is green side worth riding if you like orange? Never tried green. From what I hear it's more like star tours simulation in the same cockpit?

>>2817175
It was before they changed Green to a chill "Orbit around the Earth" mission.

>>2817004
I wish I could have an experience like that. Something like
>Jurassic Park River Adventure or Jaws is the Jungle Cruise
>MIB is a science exhibition
>Rise of the Resistance is just Star Tours
But I'm too connected to theme park news.

>>2817186
I'm jealous of my brother who didn't know about the drop on Hagrid.

>>2816965
Selling alcohol at quick service locations or drink stands at MK isn’t going to pull in even a single adult who went to Epcot for drinking around the world. It doesn’t matter at DHS or DAK either and they already have these. There is no reason not to have them at MK. If MK was still dry it would be different but MK hasn’t been dry for almost 13 years. The decision is probably a park management decision for no other reason than they’re incompetent. Why does MK still have the worst food of all 4 parks and mostly still has many of the same shitty restaurants including trash like the plaza restaurant that shouldn’t even exist in current year? This is the most visited theme or amusement park in the world and their food options are worse than some regional parks

>>2817218
Why would they improve when all the retards like the ones commiserating itt will still be loyal paypiggies?

>>2816965
What has nearly nothing in it? Epcot or World Showcase? Epcot’s got plenty to do. Sure it could use more but it will fill most people’s day. Animal Kingdom is the park that doesn’t have much to do and it closes super early. DAK is one of the worst parks in Florida despite all the high praise about it being the pinnacle of theming. There just isn’t much to do and after Dinosaur goes down early next year it’s going to be even worse. Those weirdos who claim it has so much to do it took them two days are fucking liars. Standing around and staring doesn’t count. As brought up in the last thread the authentic recreations of third world ugliness is still ugly and no different from Dinorama’s heavily criticized parking lot. Instead of Americana they should have themed Dinoland to a janky and rusty carnival from Southeast Asia and those same people who praise DAK’s theming would have loved it

>>2817219
They’ve improved everywhere else. MK food has seen improvements too but it’s still the worst of all their parks. They could really use some more restaurants. The Stitch Encounter space would make a great lounge/bar and table service location. They should have put the space restaurant there

>>2817223
Don't complain then

/tpg/: Teetotalers

>>2817153
Why is WOL shown on the map when it has not been open since 2007 and the building not used since 2018?

>>2817247
So people can use it to navigate

At Team Member Preview at HHN rn waiting in Terrifer and will do FNAF next. Current thoughts.
>Grave of Flesh
Opening set is stunning, zombies mixed with strange creatures is cool. Suddenly turned into the Labyrinth from Hellraiser 2 for no reason with you wandering around a surreal maze of marble slabs. A bit jarring but cool zero idea if like its supposed to be the eldritch dimension the creatures came from.
>WWE
Shockingly good for the concept, not familiar with Bray Wyatt and his Fiend but I know the loose concept. Very fun and uses the Firefly family well. Transitions from the WWE Backstage to the cultist compound.
Rip Bray tho, a bit disrespectful but hopefully his estate got a shitload of cash.
>El Artista
Dope as fuck, love wandering through a Gothic mansion with ghouls and a mad artist wandering about. Missed a few of the scare cues but thought the house itself rocked and the aesthetic. Will redo.
>Terrifer
Gory as fuck and over the top. Art is super charming and I thought he was an absolute doll. He came out of the house and acted coy with the guests. Wet path is a nothing burger it just drizzled a bit in a single hallway. Lightly soaked. So far my favorite because it was fun and I kept saying hi Art every time he shows up.

>>2817266
Lol forgot my picture. In line for fnaf. So far so good. Wait times massively ballooned tho lol

>>2817268
Are you the Epic Universe guy that works at Potter?

I'm jealous. I wish I had the connections to do the TM nights cause the year I went to HHN the lines sucked

Anyone else going?

>>2817278
I'm not a manchild so I'll be passing

>Hatchet and Chains Demon Bounty Hunters
Went all out with a wild west demon brawl. There's skeletal horses. Deadite style townsfolk shambling around. Gunfire whizzes around you with squibs. You see a demon hunter on horseback. Demons crawling out of fireplaces. A screen effect to simulate a train. Fuckinnn
>FNAF
Uses real animatronics or puppets which fucking rocks, based off the movie but you dont need to watch them beyond knowing about Bonnie, Chica, Freddy and Foxy (afton only shows up once). Had a dude behind me who was hyped because he went to Showbiz Pizza as a kid, was funny cuz I grew up with Chuck E Cheese. Definitely a fun house but relies a lot on static characters. Very impressive but not very scary. Worth doing tho.
Also the FNAF restaurant doesnt serve actual pizza which is kinda fucked up.
>>2817271
I am. Also i checked darkmoor if youre the guy who asked about the fucking Monster Cafe statues nowhere to be seen. Riiiiip. I'd recommend doing premium scream if you got the dosh. Shit really helps out in wait times and a better overall experience.
Was able to knockout six houses already and its only been two hours and im about to do Jason.

>>2817280
I cant afford premium scream this year. If I do HHN this year I'm going on like a Wednesday and using my AP for stay and scream. I should be able to knock everything out, especially once we find out the popularity rankings of the houses.

And yes I am the guy that asked about the Monster Cafe statues. Apparently they were spotted outside in the back of house back in July by a drone operator. So they are there...somewhere.

>>2817280
>Hatchet and Chains is good.
Fuck yeah. That's the one I've been looking forward to most.

>>2817266
It's Bray's brother who is leading the group on TV now.

>>2817280
If you wanted to go again, what sort of discount do TMs get on tickets? Did you have to pay for your ticket tonight?

>>2817288
I'm kinda disappointed that the WWE house wasn't Undertaker.

>>2817290
I actually saw a WWE wrestler at Halloween Horror Nights last year. It was Wren Sinclair from NXT. Didn't get to say hi to her. She was in line ahead of me twice, but not directly ahead of me, I could just see her down the line.

>>2817284
There's two distinct clusters. The front which has four then four houses towards the back. Its harder to game it with the way they're arranged.
Also god I feel that financial pain. Praying on the monsters whatever they are.
>>2817286
Yeah, it isn't played very silly. Its cool as fuck. There's uh a big puppet and you even walk under a hanging.
>>2817288
Oh shit?

>>2817289
We get three free tickets and one more ticket every week starting September for a total of ten free tickets we also can buy tickets or exchange or regular tickets we get for HHN tickets too. Not a bad deal. Jusr dont try to sell them or your ass is fired. We also can buy discounted tickets. I think its like six of them? Idk the rate tho.

>>2817298
We want your final house rankings when you're done

>>2817300
10 free tickets is fucking crazy. I was expecting like 2. Can you apply your tickets to other people and bring friends?

>>2817301
Rn I can tell you Fallout fucking sucks
>one deathclaw shadow on the New Vegas sign
>no feral ghouls
>no mutants
>one robot covered in a tarp
>the weird salamander thing from the show
Literally just raiders, maximus, other humans and the Walter Goggins ghoul.

>>2817302
Nah, they're personal use tickets. You can convert regular tickets tho you also get into HHN ones tho. Lol. Also I was explicitly told if I tried to take off early today or call in sick tomorrow id be fired.

>>2817308
They should have based it on the games rather than the gay ass show like they did with TLOU. Not surprised it's bad, but I was hoping at least some cool bits from the franchise would be included.

>>2817309
>Also I was explicitly told if I tried to take off early today or call in sick tomorrow id be fired.
I feel like universal keeps their employees as their little bitch on a leash but then love bombs them to keep them happy under such conditions

>>2817308
>maximus
tbf maximus is pretty terrifying

>>2817315
Feels like Bethesda or Amazon interference like the only got the rights to include what was in the show.
>>2817318
Oh yeah definitely lmao. They denied me taking off on my birthday so I gotta get somebody to cover my shift.
>>2817319
Mmmm razor blades in boot....

Okay so rankings? Ill do IP and Originals as separate lists because I feel they have different vibes
For your official 4chan rankings for HHN IP houses
Terrifer >/= Jason Universe (Jason Universe is scarier but Terrifer is more fun) > Five Nights at Freddy's = WWE Bray Wyatt Sicks > (Power Gap) > nothing > (Power Gap) > less than nothing > Fallout
IPs
Dolls Play Dead (sleeper hit) >/= El Artista (weakened without flying gargoyles) = Galkn > Grave of Flesh > Hatchet and Chains
I feel like my feelings on the originals could change and I dont feel any of them are weak or an obvious stinker like Fallout but fuck it was a good night.

>>2817358
Damn, sounds like a solid year. How were the scarezones? I felt they were pretty weak last year, so I'm hoping they step up their game. Also, did you do either of the shows?

>>2817358
I saw other rankings posted on normie social media that vastly differed from yours but everyone seems universally in agreement that Fallout is trash.

Hopefully it's like the Stranger Things and TLOU houses from two years ago and soak up the crowds based on IP recognition despite being dogshit freeing up the better houses.

Fallout being ass is a damn shame because there's so much horror stuff in the games that would have translated super well, but Amazon just wants a walk-through commercial for the show.

>>2817411
Scarezone wise
>Scarezone in between minionsland at the front
Basically a glorified photo op but theres some cool scare actors like a Garygole and some stiltwalkers that were evil birds. Took a picture of all the statues tho lol.
>scarezone in Hollywood
Themed around a twisted masquerade. Didn't actually see it during dark so I'll try a more formative opinion then but the sets, costumes and props were cool. Very much a good "actual" introduction scarezone
>central park Scarezone
Probably one of the highest effort along with New York. Has a neat effect with normal trick or treaters going feral and turning into cats. First sphinx cats before full on furry with a house at the end with a wicked crone who puts on a show. Really good shit lol.
>New York Scarezone
The most impressive, has a lot of set pieces and is very comic booky with a huge thing of barrels filled with toxic rat poison turning everyone into freakish monsters. Set in the 1920s for your obligatory period scarezone. Very very heavy on fog. Loved this one and the cat one.
There's also three "mini scarezones"
>Mel's Die-In
Zombie Carhops on rollerskates. Livens up the area for a good transition between Hollywood and Central Park
>San Fransico
Giant rave with a DJ and women on platforms in animal skull masks who dance.
>Springfield
Roaming chainsaw drill team spot you know the drill
Will watch the shows later. I was more focused on doing all the houses twice. Did em all except for Terrifer (it closed) and Fallout (it sucked)
>>2817413
FNAF had a 90 minute wait time for team member Preview though being fair Terrifier was down. So that seems to be the "major ticket" along with Terrifer. Fallout only had a like 40 to 60 minute wait.
As a Fallout fan im massively disappointed but that's just what Todd does lol.

>>2817413
nothing in the games are that scary, the example you posted is bad.

>>2817432
If I was gonna do a Fallout haunted house I'd theme it around the Children of the Cathedral.
>Master Cultists
>Mutants
>Nightkin
>the master's freakish pets
>final face to face encounter with the Master himself as his voices talk in unison

>>2817432
Well you're wrong. There's a lot to mine from the Fallout lore even if they went with the most surface level tropes and memberberries

>>2817432
There's not much in the games that I would call truly scary, but there are plenty of things that would translate well to a scary environment. Supermutants, feral ghouls, and all the giant mutant creatures would fit right in with a haunted house.

HHN has featured so many houses over the years that it would make sense to add an 11th house each year dedicated to a retro remake of a past HHN house. There's so many houses I wanted to experience but I was too young and I REEEEE internally reading the wiki knowing I will never get to do them.

>>2817475
I feel that but they also profit from overcrowding so adding capacity to HHN is a big nono.

>>2817485
With the sheer volume of people at HHN I always find it a bit weird they don't add more food stalls to HHN. They always have insane queues so adding more would get the queues down and have fewer people who look at the queues and keep their wallets in their pockets

I do not care for Halloween or halloween events at theme parks. Even as much as I love Christmas i dont know of anything christmassy worth doing at any florida park. Magic kingdom main street with seasonal decor is about as much enjoyment i get out of it.

>>2817485
Even with 12 houses it would still be so crammed full of people the express pass would sell. They should be seeing a few years of increased attendance from Epic opening anyways so it makes sense. You can sell more merch.

The houses having 240 minute lines is fucking insanity.

>>2817518
I've said it before but they should hold a second event at Epic Universe that's more like the Disney offering. Trick or Treat trails, bit more family friendly, more live acts and concerts etc. Will expand the audience, sell more tickets and smooth out the crowds

>>2817521
Epic isn't developed enough yet and doesn't have the facilities. Would fit in more with Islands since it has multiple kid-friendly areas already and already has an event coordination team. Have it just be included with regular admission if you're a park guest but also offer a separate ticket for people that want to show up after 5 that's heavily discounted

>>2817524
Does IOA have places you could put trick or treat stuff or walks? It has a theatre but I seem to remember it being smaller than the Fear Factor one. The general lack of space in walkways will also be an issue.

Epic Universe is getting a theatre built and there are lots of expansion places it could put stuff so in a year could be in a place where it could hold events.

>>2817532
>Does IOA have places you could put trick or treat stuff or walks?
So many. The entirety of Lost Continent is abandoned. There's tons of hideaway areas around the lagoon area. The Toon Lagoon amphitheater is just sitting there empty. Islands hosted HHN like 4 times or so so it has the ability to rapidly convert for haunted houses and shit if needed. It would be way easier to make islands a big trick or treat extravaganza with heavily themed walkthrough attractions. You could also IP brand synergy with Jurassic Park and Potter being right there. A Potter focused Halloween event alone would make it financially worth it.

>>2817290
Btw I forgot to mention this last night but if you do the house you can spot Paul Bearer's urn.
ooooooooohhhh yeeeeeeees

>>2817536
Forgot about Lost Continent. You could probably put something in the queue and pre-show too. If they haven't torn it down by next year that is.

>>2817540
Nah they abandoned their plan to put Zelda there with Zelda taking the Epic pad next to Mario so I dont think we're gonna see any action on Lost Continent for a while making it perfect for event space.

>>2817499
The food at HHN is all just themed slop and sweet treats. What they need is a bigger variety of quality items.
In my opinion the food at Epic has raised the bar on not just Universal's offerings but the Orlando parks in general. The quality combined with value on most stuff is even better than at Epcot. But USF and IOA need to step it up because the food options at those parks are bad, you could even say abysmal for IOA.

>>2817506
>I don't like halloween
>I don't like horror
>I don't think scary stuff should be at parks
Why are you constantly spamming the threads with this shitty opinion. Nobody cares that you are too autistic to handle the sensory aspects of haunt attractions or that you're a christfag or whatever the reason is. Just shut up already, everyone can tell you suck by this dumb opinion alone not that anyone even gives a shit about you and what you think in the first place.

>>2817585
Are you gonna cry?

>>2817590
No I'm sick of hearing you whine about it.

>>2817594
I'm nta, and I think you're about to cry

Not the same anon, but I don’t like haunt attractions because the lines are too damn long. No other reason. Even when I go during “quiet” times I’ve always been unlucky because the lines are still too long. I don’t think this is a solvable problem, the popularity of haunt attractions continues to increase.

>Nonono I LOVE having Terrifier art clown throw shit at me it is so much FUN!
Masochist tier

>>2817585
>Why are you constantly spamming the threads with this shitty opinion.
Ironic thing is you think it is one person
I agree with them, these haunts seem a waste of money for an unpleasant experience

>>2817598
Making shit up to get mad about is a sign of mental illness

I bring gifts of unwanted travel blog posting disguised as ride reviews. Went to South Korea to experience the joys of lesser Florida summer tier weather at Everland and Seoul Land. Everland is an hour city bus ride out of Gangnum where you get to experience the joy of walking up and down a mountain side with no shade in sight for a few hours. Got a ticket online for $27. Whole place was mostly dead the weekday morning I got there until about the afternoon when school let out. Got there an hour after opening and managed to get the two main roller coasters done in the first 30 minutes. Most of that time was spent walking through the empty line and waiting for the train to make its loop. Rolling X Train is an old rickety thing that felt like it needed a re-track 2 decades ago, got slammed about hard in the tight seat. T Express is fucking wild. Not sure what kind of height clearance it has but as everyone says about wooden roller coasters "the supports look like theyre going to hit me". Two zoo tram rides, one takes you to look at herbivores in various enclosures while the carnivore one takes you inside a glass box inside the enclosures. Neat experience with the carnivore one but the animals looked fucking beyond exhausted. There was a few other walking zoo exhibits but they were closed when I got around to doing them at 3pm. Theres a family coaster that had the train on backwards, novelty fun. They turned an interactive dark ride into a projection screen hell where you shoot the baby shark of youtube kids fame. They also had a korean dub version of Europa Park's 2016 Monster Family 4D that I waited way too long for because I think the employees took an hour break. I didn't ride the log flume, river rapids, or any of the flat rides which made up 90% of the attractions. Enjoyed all the theming and had fun, seems like a great place to take your kid. Ill continue this in a part 2.

Part 2. Seoul Land is a 30 minute metro ride out of Sadang on line 4. Its built on mostly flat ground within the seoul grand park complex. Got a ticket online for $14. They have their own mini geodesic sphere but its not used for anything. Place wasn't as dead as Everland on the weekend morning I went but most of the families were in a massive kids play area. Did both of the main roller coasters within 20 minutes. Columbia Double Loop Coaster isn't as rickety as the Rolling X Train but it still slams you around. Black Hole 2000 is a bit smoother than the previous ride but you still get thrashed in the seat. Pretty sure I walked off both rides with pain somewhere. Obviously the seats on all the rides in korea are designed with the smaller asian frame in mind so my fat fucking american male ass just barely passes the fitment which mightve contributed to soreness and increased perceived roughness these rides induced. Never had an issue with restraints not fitting just that the seats themselves are small. On Black Hole 2000 I actually had to change rows because the back seats of the car did not have enough clearance for the length of my thigh. Across from the Double Loop is the Crazy Mouse which wasnt a real wild mouse but was fun. A walkthrough dinosaur thing which was a nice way to get out of the sun. Den of Lost Thieves is an interactive dark where you shoot pirates and it wasnt raped by projection screens unlike the one at Everland. This was the only line I waited in the whole day because a cart of 2 people was sent out every 2-3 minutes. Theres also two different 3d theaters, one has motion seats in a regular theater while the other has swivel stools with 360 wall projection. Both had rotating shows but I only saw one. An Alice in Wonderland fun house walkthrough where you walk down slanted stairs. Other than the Canimal Circus which is something called a Squirrel Barrel I didnt ride any of the flat rides nor the log flume. Enjoyed it all and had fun.

>>2817641
>>2817642
Can someone summarize for me I ain’t reading all that. I ain’t even gonna copy paste it into AI.

>>2817659
TL;DR
>korean roller coasters continue to be rough but still fun
>T express is wild
>Majority of these two parks are flat rides
>korean roller coasters built in the 80/90's are tight fits for fat american men

>>2817599
>unpleasant experience
the only things that make it unpleasant are bitching out that you can't handle dark themes, and like this anon said >>2817597
the lines are long.
either reason is dumb because if it's the former, you have the brain of a child and if it's the latter then you shouldn't be at theme parks at all because the attractions all have waits the entire year.
so basically you are dumb and gay for stating this opinion (and many more times than once) in a theme park general.

>>2817687
This general has attracted 2 turbo spastics that I'm pretty sure visit the parks on leashes held by their elderly adult parents

>>2815392
The launches are nearly the same specs-wise. 0-57mph in 2.8 seconds for RnRC and 0-60 in 2.8 seconds for Tron. I was wrong about RnRC being LIM, it actually is LSM but it does use a catch car. I still think RnRC has more of an initial kick but it’s nothing to be intimidated by, they’re not much different. I could also be misremembering, launches are something you get used to quickly and they never hit the same way. Most magnetic launches are pretty similar.

>>2817605
That is not made up that is what the Terrifier house is teased to be

>>2817790
Yeah and it isn't. It would be illegal for Universal to hold a Halloween event where they threw feces on park guests, ergo, you are making shit up to get upset about.

Phantom Theater is coming back at Kings Island
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU6RYqOLHB4

>>2817800
It looks like a screen ride. Expected but still disappointing. Maybe they’ll have a mix of practical props

>>2817802
Scratch that, the description says fully built dimensional scenes and animatronics. Still uses the same layout and it’s a shooter and it’s also made by Sally (but that’s a good thing). But there will probably still be screens

>>2817687
Well, haunt attractions (at Universal and other parks and stand alone haunted attractions) can consistently have two hour waits which is longer than the regular attractions with few exceptions. At regional parks people queue up for over an hour in advance (if they allow them to)

>>2817816
Yeah, haunt lines can be crazy. I work at a large haunt, and we've had people wait three hours, maybe more on our busiest nights. There's not really a good way to reduce those waits either. If you pulse groups, lines swell and folks complain. If you pump people through to reduce the wait, they complain about having too many others in the house with them. If you jack up prices or cap ticket sales, well, they complain about that too. We've gotten more efficient over the years, but there's always some dumb fucks who think they'll get to go through one of the most popular attractions in the state in twenty minutes on a Saturday in October.

What the hell is up with Millenium Force? It was shut down for maintence for like 2 hours today. Apparently it's been having problems all week.

>>2815392
>haven't done RnRC yet cause im a pussy
Time to get over it, anon. Don't let fear of the unknown stop you from having fun.

>>2817899
I don't understand what that ride's problem is.

It goes down all the time but it's just a basic bitch coaster, the only thing different about it is the cable lift which does seem to be the source of many problems. I know with Intamin they want parks to have an inventory of spare parts whereas other manufacturers will warehouse spares themselves so they can be shipped off immediately. So if you don't have your own Intamin spares you have to scramble to source the part from another park because OEM lead times are long.

>>2817899
It’s gotta be the paint. Same thing as Pantherian/i305. Or they “upgraded” the computer system and it’s shit.
>>2817911
They replaced the cable lift motor last off season and it’s running at its normal speed. But it’s had a lot of downtime this season. It’s like it traded places with Maverick, Maverick has been up most of the season

>>2817835
well then why the hell don't you increase capacity by adding more attractions? what are you, disney? some of the regional standalone haunts are getting just as expensive as HHN and a lot of them have volunteer scare actors. there's no reason that these places shouldnt be having at least five walkthroughs and a hayride if you are charging upwards of $80 a head for admission and $20 for a burger or $9 for a slice of pizza. I think some of the ones around me are very greedy. Field of Screams and Markoff's Haunted Forest come to mind. Massive crowds/sales and very few attractions.

>>2817641
>>2817642
is Lotte World any good?

The water is gone
Magic Kingdom now has the least amount of water features of any castle park on the planet

>>2817965
Yes its good, did it this time and earlier in winter. Sinbad is good. French Revolution is rough but fun. Atlantis has a long 4 hour wait all day that spills out all over magic island. Ride is good but has a very tight 38 inch waist limit for its seat belt so if youre a fat fuck you might want to keep that in mind. It does have a single riders line if you don't want to risk waiting 4 hours to be declined. I wear a 38 inch waist pant and just barely cleared it. Mind you I had 3 layers of jackets unzipped and parted to the side but I dont think taking them off wouldve given me any more space. Comet Express is the best ride in the park, love me some hardcore spinning rides. However it was closed the entire time I was in the country this time because of monsoon season. It never rained so I was a bit peeved about that. Pharaoh's Fury is an indiana jones clone thats alright, the motion simulator aspect could use some major work. The line is always long because of magic express and overall slow loading/dispatching. It doesnt help that midway through the day the ride closes down for 2~ hours and people will sit there queued up waiting for it to open. The balloon ride was closed in winter but open this time but by the time I got around to doing it they closed it well before the park closed. Never rode the monorail. Theres two 4D theaters that look very clearly bought from some production house instead of produced themselves. Fantasy Dream is a trip highly recommend. Theres a projection screen hell similar to the baby shark thing at Everland but with more care put into it. If I forgot anything its because the place is a rats nest. Its the most accessible theme park to tourist because its right on Line 2 but since its right it the city its always busy. Wasn't really busy this last time since it was a school day and atlantis was closed but lines started picking up after school let out. The 2 days in winter I went it was packed on both weekday and weekend.

>>2817641
>>2817642
>>2817972
Interesting but please learn how to use paragraphs

>>2817972
>>2817965
All this being said, both everland and seoulland can be done in a day but you might have to make lotte world a two day because of all the lines. Tickets for all three are pretty cheap online and can be bought morning of, thats what I did this trip. You can get a Lotte World and Lotte Sky Tower bundle ticket for pretty cheap, well worth it if you like staring straight down 1400 feet.
>>2817975
I will continue to write walls of text, I will never reddit space and I will never split up my walls unless the topic within them changes. I can read the 7 lines worth of size 10 font on my 1080p monitor just fine. You deserve nothing but pain if youre a phone poster.

>>2817966
Dubs and a hurricane hits the east coast of florida and refills it

>>2817964
Do you think money grows on trees? The smaller haunts have operating budgets with razor thin profit margins and whether or not they can exist the following year is up in the air annually

When you add another house, you need space for it, materials, engineers and designer work hours to pay for, electrical, and haunt staff, and the hundreds of other expenses that add up. There's no ctrl-c ctrl-v

A 3 hour line sucks but that's the attendees problem. Show up early.

>>2817976
Ok but using paragraphs isn't reddit spacing

>doing premium scream
>they aren't fucking pulsing
Dude that's like one or the best parts. Its also way more crowded this go around. Fucking hell they're probably gonna have to do multiple premium scream days now.

Bros, I'm paranoid about having a heart attack on a roller coaster. I went to the doctor earlier this year and my blood pressure was high. But I had only had like two hours of sleep, and the doctor said one high reading probably wasn't something to worry about. And I went again lately for something else and my blood pressure was normal again. I've only had one high blood pressure reading in my entire life, but I'm scared I'll die on a ride.

>>2817995
Maybe you should ask your doctor

>>2817991
No refunds.

>>2818009
Like mind every house has felt like they've undersold their wait time. Haven't had a single walk on, everything's been packed full and feels just like regular HHN but I can grab food from the booths. Feels like I should have just bought express with how badly they've botched this year's premium scream.

>>2818011
To be fair 35 mins is "walk on" in HHN terms

>>2818012
Not really? Like literally last years premium scream literally was like "walk on" walk on no bullshit no frills.

>>2817966
>replacing a river with a desert
fuck me

>>2818011
Are there walkthrough POVs of any of the houses out there yet?

>>2818026
I assume they'll be up within a day.

>>2818094
>when the dark ride is a boat on tracks

>>2817980
If you show up two hours early and wait in front of it to open, you might only have an hour long line instead of showing up later and waiting three total hours.

>>2818113
You really think an hour worth of people are showing up 2 hours early? We're engaging in a fantasy hypothetical here

>>2818011
>Like mind every house has felt like they've undersold their wait time.
Wait times at HHN are extremely unreliable and update slowly. I can't speak to Premium Scream, but my general of thumb is as follows:
>Check times regularly.
>If a time has updated within the last five minutes, it is generally accurate.
>If a time has been posted for 30 minutes without changing, it is likely completely inaccurate.
>If a time has been 45 or less for awhile, assume the wait is longer.
>If a time has been 60 minutes or more for awhile, assume the time is shorter.
>Trust your eyes more than the signs. Does the line look long or short? If you're a first-timer, this may be hard to gauge.
It's not a perfect system, but it's helped me as a non-express buyer stay ahead of crowds. Hell, last year I saw two houses at the back of the park had posted 60 minutes waits when they were actually walk-ons. By the time I finished them, the times were updated, and a massive horde was descending on them as I left.

>>2818116
Maybe not at HHN (I wouldn’t know) but at Cedar Point they have a corn maze inside a drained Thunder Canyon (rapids ride) that always has a massive crowd lined up two hours before it opens. To be fair this is a Saturday but people spend the whole night queuing up for it even though it’s not great and there are several other mazes

>>2818119
At HHN people will line up at the gates early or do stay and scream. However, at standalone haunts, this doesn't really happen, at least in my experience. Some people may try to show up early, but we won't even let them in the parking lot until about 30 minutes before opening (maybe a bit earlier on the super busy nights).

>>2818094
>>2818106
>when the track is under boats behind a dark ride

Been monitoring wait times these past few weeks. Today is much busier than every other day this week. I think people might be getting a head start on Labor Day weekend.

>about to get in line for a ride
>Pablo and his entire extended family get in right before me
For fuck's sake Trump do your goddamn job

>>2818177
>90 minutes for ToT
poor newfags who don’t realize that shit averages around 50

>Check wait times for HHN houses right as they open.
>FNAF listed as, "at capacity."
Jesus Christ, I've not seen that ever for a house. I'm getting worried my all ten houses+shows without Express streak may end this year. Crowds should be lower when I go, so I'm still going to try.

>>2818228
This is so fucking stupid man. I love HHN but I hate the overcrowding

>>2818228
It's opening weekend and also a holiday weekend. Assuming that the trend holds however, maybe this is what causes them to expand to 12+ houses. The guest feedback on their disastrous "premium scream" night is all over social media cause it was apparently miserable and not worth the $400 so they will need to do something to win people back. Their influencers that usually suck their dicks are bitching about it cause it was basically just a night with express pass rather than being "premium"

BROOOOOOOO YOU DON'T GET IT BRO RMC COASTERS ARE THE BEST BRO THE AIRTIME BRO THE AIRTIME

epcot flooded yesterday and 40 rides at disneyworld briefly shut down due to a power outage

>>2818284
Sheeeeeit

Anyone at HHN tonight? Working and bored

HHN next Friday in Hollywood and I got the express pass, let's fucking do this bros I'm pumped.

>>2818268
This but unironically

Anyone else find it depressing log flumes are a dying ride format and all the old ones are quickly being retired now?
https://buschgardens.com/tampa/rides/stanley-falls/

>>2818305
Water rides in general are in decline. Raft rides are getting phased out because insurance companies don't want the liability, all of those 80s/90s shoot-the-chute boat rides are aging out, at least log flumes have simplicity on their side as most repairs are fiberglass work.

>>2818305
Man that sucks. I loved that ride so much as a kid. However, since they already cleared Scorpion out, removing Stanley Falls gives them a massive space to work with for HOPEFULLY an indoor attraction finally. That whole park shuts down for hours almost every day in the summer and there is jack shit to do while you wait for the storm to clear

>>2818305
>>2818310
I get so hot at theme parks. I love water rides and I wish there were more of them.

>>2818313
Stanley Falls will probably be replaced with another water ride.
I predict a modern renaissance of water rides coming down the (pipeline). Water rides are massively popular with GP and that is the 80% demographic that isnt going to parks basedou've got the Mack rocking boat hitting the scene and making a (splash) and then there's the Lion Kangz ride coming to Paris and a lack of water rides at all the Orlando parks except IOA and SeaWorld (Epic I'm looking at you).

Water rides are massively popular with the GP and that is the 80% demographic that aren't going to the regional parks now and they will need to pull people in/compete with new water rides coming to Florida. I also predict that we will be seeing a regional dark ride resurgence for the same reason. That's why Kings Island is bringing back Phantom Theater and Dollywood is opening a world class dark ride. If the regionals finally started getting in the world class theming game to compete with Universal and Disney the industry in the states could be more like Europe and the bar would be raised and the whole industry could be saved. I mean I'm all for coaster war shit but I feel like now that everything is consolidated with all the major regional parks, it's time for the industry in the US to take a decade or two to evolve into meeting a higher standard for everything other than coasters. Investments should be made to theme the hell out of everything and give people the Orlando experience near them.
Themed lands, big water rides and modern dark rides could help to achieve this.

>>2818284
Went to MK in July and an extremely heavy downpour flooded small parts of tomorrowland. Some kids were playing in it.
Also am I crazy? I thought WDW had its own power plant.

>>2818305
Unthemed flumes are much uglier than unthemed coasters. Splash mountain was like the only good flume in Florida.

>>2818367
>consolidation
>coaster war shit
the merger stuff has already killed the coaster wars. at this point its basically only six flags/cedar fair vs. herschend and six flags already threw in the towel when they sacrificed the tallest coaster in north america. herschend has no inventive to compete because their focus is on the family market. they seem to care more about keeping their regions locked and being a good alternative for families other than florida.
so yeah, it does make perfect sense for both companies to compete with orlando instead of each other, especially considering the fact that regional attendance is nosediving.

>>2818305
I think it's the sheer size that hurts them, hard to make a compact logflume without them looking like a funfair one. They're comfy as fuck and the whole family can enjoy them. Love the ones that'd just go through random forests at the back of parks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnsD2vqXi8I
RIP Loggers leap. At least Blackpool did a full refurb of Valhalla last year.

Also, Why the fuck are Busch Gardens getting ride of one of the few family rides at the park? The ultra short inverted coaster still didn't make up for there being very little there for families.

>>2818374
It's got its own transformer/redistribution station plus a small powerplant but it gets most of its power from the general Florida supply. I'd guess their own plant is there to keep the lights, AC and data centre stuff supplied.

On an unrelated note, Disney were teasing park stuff for D23 today and tomorrow so could see a few bits and pieces, especially for villains land.

The real question is how did BGT become a ghetto budget park when Tampa's population has exploded in the last 10 years?

Howl-O-Scream now does only 1 new house a year and features 5 houses total. In 2010 they offered 9 houses with 5 of them being brand new.

What happened there? Entertainment industry is recession proof so it cant be the economy.

>>2818409
>I'd guess their own plant is there to keep the lights, AC and data centre stuff supplied.
It looks like a gas turbine plant, and those are used as peakers by big utilities when demand gets high and they shut them back down when demand drops because they're expensive to run per MW/hr. No idea about the economics of Disney running them, if they're in continuous service perhaps they can get the price per MW/hr down to a level that's competitive with the power company. Might just be a load shedding operation where it's only turned on when the power company is near their max capacity and starts telling big customers to cut back.

>>2818417
>Entertainment industry is recession proof
Anon, I. . .

>>2818417
nigga was BGT ever NOT a ghetto park? just look at where it's located and who works there.

>>2818424
BGT was comfy as shit in the 90s through the 2010s. They used to try to compete with Dis and Uni and occasionally produced kino like the original version of Rhino Rally and Akbar's Adventure tours. They seem to have resigned themselves to being six flags with jungle music and with how many people have moved to Tampa recently it doesnt make much sense. Their attendance should be higher.

>>2818421
It is. People are always willing to spend money to ignore their mounting problems.

>Tron:Ares temporary overlay at Lightcycle run for the new movie
kino, just hoping the new soundtrack is decent

>>2818432
>It is. People are always willing to spend money to ignore their mounting problems.
People tighten up their discretionary income during recessions and seek out cheaper entertainment than theme parks. Alcohol and drugs are the only recession proof industries.

The Tron Lightcycles will be getting a limited overlay next month for Tron Ares
In short, they will change the lights to red and blast Nine Inch Nails music during the ride
https://disneyparksblog.com/wdw/new-tron-ares-ride-overlay-announced-for-tron-attractions/

>>2818435
>>2818437
Stop trying to make Jared Leto happen. It's not gonna happen

>>2818432
>They seem to have resigned themselves to being six flags
When they went from being a pet project of the Busch family to being owned by private equity

>>2818441
It's probably this. You could see the soul leave the park when they stopped naming Coasters based on African legends.

>>2818432
>It is. People are always willing to spend money to ignore their mounting problems.
Disney literally let you get in for free on your birthday, parks are absolutely not recession proof

>>2818437
That will start just after I'm gone. Glad I'll get to experience the normal way.

>>2818435
>>2818437
>Right before the launch you hear "I want to fuck you like an animal".
What's next, a Skinny Puppy overlay for Cosmic Rewind?

>>2818417
They shifted the focus on improving Howl-O-Scream Orlando at SeaWorld, which is looking like it could actually be pretty solid this year since last year's was a leap from the year before and this year looks like even more of an improvement. It would appear that they are finally starting to get some crossover guests from HHN which is obviously why they started the Orlando event in the first place, a few years ago which got off to a rocky start because the first two years were affected by the pandemic. Also HHN tourists and Orlando tourists in general aren't making the trek to Tampa for BGT anymore because Orlando now has enough thrill coasters to satisfy the GP and the thoosies.
>industry is recession proof
Tourism always takes the biggest hit during a recession (picrel) out of any industry because the money spent on vacations is whatever is leftover after living costs and taxes. Most people don't even have money in the bank. All their money earned is spent on bills and paying off debt etc. With the cost of Orlando increasing, less people are traveling to Florida and even less people have the time or extra money on top of that to add BGT to their itinerary.

BIG NEWS FROM D23

Carousel of progress to be updated to include Walt Disney in it.

That is all.

>>2818508
Looks like once again their hubris made them not learn their lesson from the DL great moments breakdowns and bad PR.
Ironic that they choose the ride that has the most embarrassing social media posts showing tech issues with their newest version of that at Disneyland. It's like they want people to post videos of malfunctioning attractions for some reason. It's not like people will see stuff like that and feel good about assuming the trip is out of their price range or anything.

>>2818508
>Carousel of Progress still exists
This is all I care about. If Walt is forced in as the "IP" that is fine, just let this damn thing never leave us

>magic coasters at the Doctor Strange bar on the new Disney Cruise ship

gimmicks but still kinda cool. The haunted mansion bar still looks neat

>>2818432
Holy shit Rhino Rally. That’s what it was called. I’ve been trying for ages to remember the name of the ride where you ride in a humvee and a bridge breaks under you and you almost go over a waterfall. I had decided it was an earlier version of the Animal Kingdom safari.

Anyway I miss it, that ride was cool as shit.

>>2818432
>>2818523
>Akbar's Adventure tours
I hadn’t even read the rest of your post when I replied. I have been trying to think of what ride this was for a while too, searching Universal and Disney history. It must have been 2001 when I last rode it. Damn anon, solving two mysteries for me in one post without even being promoted.

Busch Gardens used to be Disney/Universal tier then? I mean Rhino Rally was up there with any ride from those two. Wonder what happened. During my last visit it seemed to be only tangentially related to Africa, and the African theming was mostly just animals.

>>2818526
It was never Disney tier but it did seem to just be a better experience. They've got some great coasters but it's come at the expense of everything else. You had great shows, frequent wandering live music, the beer tent.

The akbar tour was also the second version of the simulator ride, previously it was some other thing about a scientist looking for some crystal (I rode both versions)

Is my fat ass gonna fit in the Tron ride bros?

>>2818580
I have the about the same beer belly as you and the bikes are incredibly uncomfortable. I recommend riding in the back row on the sit down seats. I did that on my second ride and it was more comfortable and felt more like a standard coaster, which I preferred.

tron is ass

Announcements for Villains Land are expected very shortly, as in within the hour

>>2818709
Villain panel is happening now. Hopefully they have something

>>2818711
LOL Nothing at all

"The land will be based on art nouveau from Barcelona... Nah we don't want to show anything about it today!"

>>2818712
Kek

I think we're going to be okay without the Lightning Lanes in September. We know which rides get lines that we'd want to hit early. Plus we know there's a lot of theming in the queues and I'd like to see those at least once for every ride.

>>2818601
I’m /fit/ and they’re still kind of uncomfortable since your neck angle is the same as just staring straight upward the whole ride.

>>2818580
>>2818601
I'm the same size and it's not a big deal. Hard part is on the neck to look forward but that is regardless of size.

Im here to report that Test Track 3.0 is much better than 2.0 but still not as good as 1.0. If they toned down the commentary where they try to be as painfully unfunny as possible it would make the whole experience better.
>>2818580
You'll be able to ride it just fine
>>2818601
>>2818794
The real trick to being comfortable is how you sit in the seat. I usually sit in a way where I can still cross my arms and rest them on the top of the hump at the end of the ride. Dont have to tilt my head up that far while riding. If youre leaned all the way forward youre doing it wrong. I think most people flub up how to fit their feet and legs in which makes the sitting more awkward than it should.

Biggest D23 news
Cinderella Castle is going back to original colors
https://disneyparksblog.com/wdw/new-color-palette-announced-for-cinderella-castle/

>>2818839
Frozen Land is going to be opening in spring in Paris. Presumably that'll include the two flat rides too. So much work for such mediocre rides...

Prefabricated Wooden Coasters like El Toro mog RMC steel tracks atop wooden supports actually

>>2818867
RMC coasters are just steel coasters as far as I can tell. I mean does using wood supports instead of steel actually do anything for the ride besides headchoppers?

>>2818957
Mechanically they are regular steel coasters

>>2818958
I thought so but also thought maybe the wood had some other purpose.

>>2818960
Just holds the track up. No different than those old mine trains from the 60s and 70s

>>2818957
Well for one thing, it costs a lot less than steel supports. But there are RMCs with steel supports

>>2818839
Thank God. The re-color fucking sucked

>>2819030
>>2818839
Kinda weird, was it really hated that much for it to be worth spending the money repainted and having the castle in scaffolding again for a month or so?

Also weird that the birthday cake got a huge cheer from the audience, that was pretty widely hated at the time (my mum hated it)

>>2819076
They have to repaint the castle every half a decade ago to keep it pristine, especially in the Florida sun, even with paint specially made for the conditions it is in. Regardless if the change the colors or not.
Here it is more the original is and always will be the true version, others might be done for temporary celebrations (the latest one can be attributed to the 50th) so people are going to rail on anything that stays too long because nostalgia always will take them to the original

>>2818839
>>2819030
>>2819076
>>2819095
So this is what it means to be a Disney fan... remarking on a fucking paint job

>>2819098
>Why are you talking about the appearance of the central icon of the resort?

>>2819103
>Are you PUMPED for the NEW PAINT at DISNEY????

>>2819106
Yes
I care about theming unlike the people who want Disney/Universal to turn into Six Flags with nothing but running to major attractions

>>2819106
Personally I'm still mad that Thorpe Park got rid of its rangers

>>2819126
>He cares about paint
Sad!

Hot take: I kind of like the current color scheme

So what was the best paint moment of D23 for everyone? Personally I liked this moment most.

You see most parks would think "why don't we source multi-coloured stones for this wall so it looks natural" but Disney get their team of paintineers together and think "wait a sec... maybe there's a more magical way!"

>>2819132
Bro just go to Six Flags Atlanta they have more big rides

>>2819138
Yeah they repainted Blue Hawk to a slightly different shade of blue. Can't wait to see it for myself dude. All new paint job bro!

>>2814840 (OP)
Anyone here ever worked at a Disney park? Is it worth it?

>>2819149
My understanding is that looking in isolation the job's been comparatively poor pay, poor security, hard work and very strict conditions since the Eisner era. However can't ignore that you're working at Disney, if you like customer service it's probably the best around for that (yeah you get shitty highly strung, angry people but you get that everywhere) and the character actors get paid to larp and build up acting experience.

Basically it's like every "desirable" job, the pay and conditions are shit because there are 100 people waiting if you quit.

>>2819149
>>2819166

Also before these threads became really popular there was a former character actor who'd make a thread in /co/ . Dunno if he's still around.

>>2819149
Yes, it was the best time of my life but its not $survivable$. I was living off of savings.

>>2819166
It’s not even a desirable job. And people aren’t queued up waiting to work there for the common positions, they solicit college and international students from all over to come live there and take a big chunk of their pay to house them. The characters are entertainment and most people in entertainment are elitest snobs who pretend you don’t exist. You have to audition to play face characters and some of the people in the shows go on to broadway (same with entertainment actors and other parks though.. even regional parks). Entertainment gets paid way more than the ride operators and food service and custodians, they’re not even the same league. I worked there on the college program. It was…. A job. But when I worked there we could go into the parks freely whenever we wanted (I don’t think they can do that now unless it’s changed back)

>>2819224
I always wonder what the tips are like. Restaurants get people in and out as fast as possible, charge a load and you've got people hyped from being on holiday.

Do the people at the pop up cocktail places in Disney Springs get tips? Feels those would rack up too with the average cocktail probably being $15

>>2819254
Tips are probably included in the drink prices and they don’t call it gratuity so they don’t have to disclose it. That’s the way it is at other amusement parks. I noticed at Disney Spring the drink stands no longer give you a receipt with a spot for tips when you pay with a card. It’s probably included there for sure. Over the years I’ve noticed a lot of people write $0 or not tip which is understandable when you’re paying that much for a drink. All the Disney travel “expert” advice saying what you should tip is just bullshit. A lot of people have made a living being Disney travel agents and experts over the years and thankfully the will soon be replaced with AI

>>2818580
I think tall and fat people can't ride. I've seen short chunkers get on just fine. Some people will force themselves to ride in pain rather than admit they're too fat. The back seat is the best and most comfortable.

>>2818526
Liberals did a mass campaign to take them out via Netflix, Blackfish, and various social media companies that they own. It didn't take them out but it did hurt. They're still recovering. Liberals want to own everything fun and entertaining and to fuck up the world.

>>2818510
I've been talking to young families and even though these families are woke they don't want to do Disney World because its too crowded, hot, and you have to wait too long in lines.

>>2818441
People like you who know too much steal from the magic.

>>2818432
Sundar Puchai attacks it in the comments section and has attacked it for years. Google is the most evil company on the planet.

>>2818417
I wouldn't call it "ghetto budget". It has always had a limited demographic of being teen focused. Same thing for Legoland. You're not allowed in the park without someone who is 18+. So teen packs aren't allowed in Legoland. They limit $ themselves.

Everything was cozy in the 90s when White Christians of the American variety were in charge.

>>2818380
The only place legitimately competing with Disney World is Dollywood.

>>2818284
Insane photo!

>>2818197
Ice.gov is where you report them if you see them. I do this anytime I hear them speaking Spanish all loudly like they own this country and are not invaders from shitholes.

>>2818177
When Labor Day Weekend comes, in Florida, you might as well hide in your house for two weeks. Families will pretend that its still summer vacation. Everywhere will be crowded.

>>2819314
Evidently not, I know it's 30 minutes to closing but come on BatM is 5 minutes

>>2819316
Hoping it stays this way for the 10th-11th but Epic's waits have always been a hit or miss

>>2814840 (OP)
It's officially SEPTEMBER.

Kids will be tucked in school but the parks will be crowded with people from England. They have some sort of holiday in September. Hopefully tensions between the leaders of the UK and America will stop the flow. The UK is abusing her citizens. Similar to China, they have no free speech, no guns.

>>2819316
Wow. Nice!

>>2819316
Single rider is just sad. I tried doing a park by myself once. It was the most depressing thing in the world.

>>2818716
Villains land does not appeal to me at all.

>>2817903
Watch the renovation make Walt Disney black

>>2819323
There is going to be a coaster so I will pay attention even if it was themed to Eilo or whatever

>>2817687
>just accept bad treatment
Third world mentality.

>>2817641
>>2817642
K-pop demon hunters ride when?

>>2817506
The parks are so fun during holidays, though. Except for the crowds.

>>2817221
Shit opinion

>>2819314
>>2819316
Labor Day is supposed to be one of the least busy holidays at these parks. I'm interested to see how lines look for the rest of the week. We'll be going to Disney next week. We didn't buy Lightning Lanes because we think we'll be able to hit everything we want in September with the right strategy.

>>2819339
Since when? I know this is the internet but labor day weekend is bound to be crowded

>>2819347
Crowded compared to the Mondays before and after, but not so crowded compared to other holidays.

>>2819347
Went on saturday, wasn't any busier than normal. If youre autistic enough you could always scrape through thrilldata's heatmap by park and date to get a better picture.

>>2819137
Good thing they've got their hard hats and safety vests on

>>2819364
>>2819318
>>2819339
weekdays in september are the least crowded days all year. you just have to plan your days according to the after hours events, and you will most definitely get low crowds/waits for everything. for MK make sure it's not on a day with not-so-scary because the park closes early and there will be a lot of people attending the event with day tickets also. same applies to universal. try going to the studios and IOA on a mon-wed when HHN isnt happening and I predict that Epic will be less crowded on HHN days because people will be over at the other parks on those days.

>>2819366
>for MK make sure it's not on a day with not-so-scary because the park closes early and there will be a lot of people attending the event with day tickets also.
I've actually heard the opposite, that Magic Kingdom is LESS busy during the day when they're doing the Halloween party.

>>2819366
I'm concerned about Epic mostly because it seems to be crowded on weekdays and light on weekends

>>2819385
I think that was because of all the vacation packages people were getting over the summer. They started on friday or saturday so people staying at a universal resort didnt start the parks until monday and finished on wednesday or thursday with those being the park days. It will probably flip this month because vacation packages are mostly done for the season with families and kids back in school and work. There will be more locals and florida residents going to Universal on the weekends for HHN and because thats when they have off of school/work so all the parks will likely be more crowded on the weekends.

>>2819314
I did Labour day at Epcot a couple years back, it was busy but not massively so. I think Labor Day being packed is a thing of the past, possibly everyone assuming it would be busy and possibly fewer people booking daytrips to Disney and it being a bad time to take a full week off.

>>2819318
Peak for brits is mid August . September is when the childless or people willing to take their kids out of school arrive. I'm guessing they're more visible in September because numbers from everywhere else plummet. The Trump effect will be interesting lots of people nervous about putting down £8000 on a family holiday at the moment with insurance cover if something happens being unclear.

>>2819321
Skill issue

Heading to MK - Epcot this morning. I wanna try to lap the seven seas lagoon first, never tried it before.

>>2819136
I legitimately always forget that it's supposed to be pink. If you had asked me last week I would have told you it was the old color scheme.

>>2819137
Unironically as someone who works at a paint manufacturing company here in Florida I get jealous that we don't supply Disney. It does not affect my job at all if we do or not, it would just be neat to be able to say I "supply Disney World with paint". I guess they just have a pretty good deal with PPG and I doubt we could compete in 1000 years.

Also does anyone remember those paint chips you could grab at like Home depot and they were in the shape of mickey? Dad would always let me take one home even though there was zero intention of painting anything.

>>2819462
>wanna try to lap the seven seas lagoon first, never tried it before.
As in running a full lap around it?
Or taking the monorail all the way around? Looks like about 2.7 mile loop on foot.

>>2819321
I’m often a single rider on coasters and thrill rides because my kids aren’t ready for them. It never really bothered me but in recent years zoomers don’t want to sit next to strangers despite the coasters that have assigned seating. It’s got to
the point where I have to tell them “hey they assigned me next to you” which you never had to do before. I sat next to this total sperg on Steel Vengeance who insisted that he ride alone and I told him that seats are assigned and I’m sitting next to you, you don’t get to choose to sit by yourself. And he kept saying some weird autistic drivel clearly out of his comfort zone. When seats are assigned I’ll pick a row to be by myself and if somebody wants to sit next to me IDGAF. Most legacy Six Flags parks don’t assign seats but the popular legacy Cedar Fair parks do on many of their coasters. I noticed Kings Island wasn’t assigning people next to single riders which reinforces my zoomer autistic comfort zone theory.

As for solo travel, I don’t do that. I’ve stopped at parks by myself on the way to visit friends or on work trips but it’s not something I would ever want to do. Like the Disney Adults who go on solo Disney trips is weird and also sad (as in I feel sad for them).

>>2819299
Tron has a fat seat in the back which is just a normal coaster seat. I’ve seen some surprisingly fat people ride it in the normal seat. Depends how they carry it. If they have cankles, the leg restraint won’t work.

>>2819521
That's reassuring. I've got a belly but my legs are not going to be a problem.

>>2819518
>It’s got to the point where I have to tell them “hey they assigned me next to you” which you never had to do before.
Lol. I wouldn't even do that I'm just following them out as as soon as the air gates open and sitting down.

If they sit in the first seat to block me I'll just wait for the wagie to see what's going on and make them move. I also dgaf if someone rides next to me, it's not a big deal and would be funny to me if some sperg was being a bitch about it.

>>2819532
>If they sit in the first seat to block me I'll just wait for the wagie to see what's going on and make them move.
That’s why I started saying “I’m sitting next to you”. I was in a party of 3 on a 2 across seating coaster next to the odd man out for another party of 3 and they purposely blocked me and put their restraint down. Ride operator reopened the gates (which on some coasters isn’t something they can do but this was some shitty coaster) and I had to wait… and then my party had to wait a cycle for me to ride. Another park or another coaster would have handled it differently though.

The Steel Vengeance sperg didn’t try to block me and him getting all uncomfortable and saying a bunch of autism babble was definitely quite funny and made me want to ride next to him even more. He had a fast lane plus arm band and immediately got back on (solo) which makes me wonder how many other people had to deal with it or why a single rider thinks they’re entitled to being alone when all seats are supposed to be filled.

>>2819521
Yeah I rode in it. Super fun ride

>>2819418
I feel sorry for the UK. They have no freedom.

>>2814840 (OP)
Tampa Bay won #1 for Howloscream. Likely due to USF students.

>>2819560
https://youtu.be/6Ty7dhfNLeM?si=DQY1WF0Vs5AyHitF

God damn, Epic is slammed today. Thought I was smart going the day after Labor Day, but I guess not.

>>2819538
>That’s why I started saying “I’m sitting next to you”.
In that case I'd use the leverage of being inconvenienced by the sperg to bargain with the wagie to pick the row I wanted. And regardless of what they told you, the wagies can open and close the air gates as much as they want while the train's stopped in the station.

>>2819567
I just checked the lines and they're definitely massive. Yeah it's crazy to see a park that busy in September.

>>2819517
Not running but walking. I thought you could make a full loop starting and ending at TTC but I got lost at contemporary and took the ferry back instead. Ran into Eric from WDWNT on the walk, gave a silent wave of acknowledgement.

One of these days gonna make it a mission to walk world showcase as many times in a day as i can.

>>2819567
Told you.
When Labor Day Weekend comes, in Florida, you might as well hide in your house for two weeks. Families will pretend that its still summer vacation. Everywhere will be crowded.

>>2819518
Single rider is depressing because of this zoomer mentality, I agree. They act like you're a pedophile if you were assigned to sit next to them.

Its already sad that you have no one to share the rides with.

>>2819583
Magic Kingdom has 30 minute waits for Tron and Seven Dwarves right now though

>>2819588
People are boycotting tf out of Wokie Disney. Everywhere. Ppl start hissing when I mention that I love going. Its a shame.

>>2819590
>It's a shame.
On the contrary, the fewer people in those parks the better.

>>2814840 (OP)
https://youtu.be/cKxCKZB08aA?si=byf71muOL2dTUJCY

>>2819594
No because they won't have everything running.

>>2819587
>They act like you're a pedophile if you were assigned to sit next to them.
You've just got to not give a fuck what some dumbass teenager thinks. You got assigned to ride with them, that's how the system works. They're not even worth thinking about

>>2819590
Its a party night retard. MK closes at 6.

>>2819600
I wish there were more single rider lines like there used to be. A lot of them have been converted into fast/flash/express pass/lane lines. This would help reinforce to zoomers that they won’t be sitting alone. I’ve been blocked 4 times as a single rider or odd man out. Once was a mistake from an adult in a 4 across H&M and they moved down right away. The other three were zoomers and two of them were showing clear signs of autism sensory personal space bullshit. The one I didn’t mention was on gatekeeper but there is enough room to walk to the next seat and I could tell the guy was uncomfortable (in an autistic way like the previously mentioned sperg on Steel Vengeance) that somebody was next to him. These are the types of people who do non-contact delivery and hyperventilate if they have to interact with a cashier because the self check out acts up. I’m not sure why they’re going to theme parks full of thousands of people. It was probably hard enough for them to tell the ride operator how many was in their party (for the ones who were solo)

>>2819628
I think if you're that far on the spectrum you don't have any business at a park, you're just making your problems everyone else's.

Again though, it's not our problem, either deal with it or hit the exit gate. I don't walk on eggshells for these types

>>2819629
I used to be able to go on Mt Everest 5 min and they wouldn't seat anyone next to me. That was the one time it was fun.


To me going to Disney is healing my inner child who was mentally abused every day growing up. My life was such shit. And I hate the nerdy men the most. They are the most mean cruel people in the world.

>>2819632
Wah fuckin wah

The Terrifier Wet Path / Dry Path thing is the most overhyped retarded idea I've ever seen a haunted house promote. You can get the exact same experience turning on a garden hose, aiming it at the sky, and walking 10 feet.

The hype is from people imagining it the logical way that the idea implies with the "blood" coming out of a corpse or chainsaw or something. It just drips from the ceiling and the walls have the same foam bullshit the scarezones have. 1/10 for execution

>>2818527
>some other thing about a scientist looking for some crystal
Questor.
>>2818523
>Anyway I miss it, that ride was cool as shit.
If you ride Cheetah Hunt, the river you ride through is the same river Rhino Rally used for their water portion.

>>2818993
>when the ride queue features silhouettes and chalk outlines of past guests that have died

Dinosaur's last day is Feb. 2, 2026

>>2819684
Would be nice if they fixed it up some so its final run is more memorable. Currently the chase sequence doesnt work and I swear the lighting is fucked on the first carnotaurus reveal.

>>2819684
>Just going to miss it
It's over

I'm liking the new change to ride ops at hagrid's motorbike. If you're a single rider they make sure you get a bike seat and the sidecar stays empty

trying to map out a really long walk at disney world, wish it was more walkable for the freakazoids like me who want to walk from magic kingdom to epcot

>>2819729
It's literally one of the most walkable places in the states. Why are you trying to walk so far? Stop being retarded. There's a million great places to walk there, especially in the EPCOT/Studios resort area as long as you aren't trying to talk a marathon.

>>2819736
I'm talking about walking as far as I possibly can across all parks and resorts while taking the fewest buses as possible. Obviously not something anyone wants to do except me. Don't even know if it's doable in a day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6kGLCJN6vE

Mickey views did a good video on Rivers of America. I still want cars land though. And I still hate the argument that it was a "safe haven from crowds", it actively caused crowds.

>>2819741
>I still want cars land
Kill yourself

>>2819729
I once walked so much at Universal that when I got back home and took my shoes off my socks were stained red

>>2819877
I was limping during my last trip. This year I'm bringing shoes that hopefully are better for walking.

>>2819736
>marathon
I think
>>2819738
should just do the official Marathon. That's literally a loop through every park. It's a surprisingly tight route around the property.

>>2819877
Think the most I've ever recorded for walking in a day was HHN in Florida.

>>2819903
I hit 42,000 steps recently. It's not easy.

Puy du Fou Bicester plans submitted.

More a park of shows than an actual theme park. Notably it's going to be around an hours drive from 4 different theme parks (and 2 hours to Alton Towers) when it's built. Wonder if there'll be oversaturation or England becoming a place for park types to do tours of.

>>2819903
For me it was 35,000 at Cedar Point. In part because when I got to Steel Vengeance I realized I lost my water bottle and went back to Gatekeeper to check… twice.

>>2819695
Sounds like it’ll make the line even longer

>>2819587
Just be handsome. I look and dress like a chad (even though I’m as autistic as everyone else here) so they assume I am one. Typical thoosies (it’s funny how obvious they make themselves) are hilariously easy to pick out. Bad clothes, bad hair, glasses, skinny fat or just skinny. Just asking for zoomers to make fun of them.

>>2819915
Don't wear roller coaster/park shirts or hats, either. Absolute poon repellent and they universally look bad.

>>2819916
Speaking of which I’ve seen posts online about thoosies complaining about coaster tees not having the right tracks lel

>>2819901
>do the official Marathon
>pay more than entry to MK to walk around when i could do it "free" (passholder) at my own pace
Everything on their calendar is sold out right now anyways. And I'm not actually fit enough to do a 10k in a reasonable time, let alone marathon. powerwalking only

>>2819929
Well, again the official Marathon route is pretty tight. You might be able cut off 4 miles or so, but you're still looking at at least 20 miles for a full minimalist loop, 15 miles for being content to stop and start at different parks.

Wait times extremely reasonable right now

>>2819933
Is this all you Disney people live for? Just pulling up wait times on the app and talking about them?

>>2819938
what do you live for anon?

>>2819933
September’s the time to hit Disney then?

>>2819938
>theme park autist gets mad at other theme park autist
>>2819954
Always has been

>>2819955
End of November used to be another good time but that one got "found out" and became busy. September is difficult for anyone with kids so managed to survive the crowd calendars smoothing out the year.

>>2819915
The problem is they don’t want to sit next to any stranger. It doesn’t help if the stranger gives them the ick, but they don’t care if you’re a chad or a stacy. It’s a personal space thing from a generation of unsocialized snowflakes.

>>2819955
>theme park autist gets mad at other theme park autist

Work in progress Psychotic WDW Walk plan with minimal vehicles and backtracking. As far as I'm aware this covers every non-DVC, Disney-owned resort (except one, Coronado Springs is annoying to reach) and park + shop district . Every paragraph break is a vehicle transition. I'm interested in any ideas to optimize this route better:

Monorail to Contemporary as soon as possible in the morning, start your timer and step counter.
Walk to MK, do a full loop. Walk past Grand Floridian, Poly, through to Ticket center bus depot to bus to Wilderness lodge.

Walk from the Lodge to Fort Wilderness, walk all the way south to the campsites, bus to Epcot.

Walk south around The Land, exit via International gateway (We are not done with Epcot) into Yacht + Beach, loop around Swan and Dolphin to Atlantic Dance Hall, walk down Hollywood Studios connector path. Do full loop of Hollywood Studios then proceed to gondolas for Caribbean Beach.

Circle the lake passing by Riviera resort then way down to trinidad section, back to gondolas towards Pop Century.

Loop hourglass lake then bus to Blizzard Beach.

Loop Blizzard beach then walk all the way down to All star movies, bus to Animal kingdom.

Loop Animal kingdom then bus to Animal Kingdom Lodge

Wander AKL then bus to Typhoon Lagoon

Loop Typhoon Lagoon then bus to Old Key West

Walk through the golf course paths up past Saratoga Springs to Disney Springs, wrap down to Cirque building then back to the Water taxi towards Port Orleans FQ

Walk up through FQ to Riverside then loop Old man Island, bus back to Epcot for the finale

Take the path past test track and finish the rest of the World Showcase loop then finish line is past Boardwalk at Atlantic Dance Hall.
If anyone knows of a good way to map this out on one single image I would like to know, I crashed my browsers multiple times trying to map it out on Google maps even in chunks.
Lastly, the water parks are gonna be down to just one this week. So there goes my attempt at this

Going to Epic pretty soon and trying to watch all of the classic Universal Monster Movies before I go to Darkmoor for maximum immersion.

So far I have seen: The Wolf Man, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Phantom of the Opera, The Mummy, and Creature from the Black Lagoon.

All I have left are Dracula, Frank, Bride. Am I missing anyone? Is COTWW based on the movie of the same title?

>>2820051
Invisible man

>>2820051
>>2820052
Yeah you gotta see Invisible Man. That and Bride of Frankenstein are the two best ones.

>Carousel higher than Ministry
What logical explanation is there for this? Ministry hasn't had any breakdowns today so it can't be coming back up from one.

>>2820048
map the whole thing on Google maps, I want to see your walking autism in action

>>2820052
>>2820054
Would you say Jekyll and Hyde is necessary as well?

>>2820057
Battle of the ministry was always meant to be a high-capacity attraction. Like Monsters Unchained was. They simply are getting it to work properly as intended.
Stardust Racers is likely next since it’s meant to be devouring alot more crowds as well.

>>2820054
I watched Frankenstein and Bride tonight. Shit was cash. Is there a lore reason why Dr Pretorius is alive in Darkmoor or am I not to ask these questions?

I assume both films are canon since the OG Frankenstein certainly is

God damn, HHN was slammed tonight. Busier than I've ever seen in early September. Thought I would finally fail to do everything without Express, but I managed to pull it off. My strategy was as follows:
>Stay and Scream WWE
>Hatchet and Chains
>Fallout
>Galkin
>Dolls
>Both shows
>Food
After that, it was a game of monitoring wait times and trying to figure out when they were bullshit to great success. Longest wait was one hour for Terrifier (which was posted at 2 hours). Jason was 140 minutes posted when I went in, but it was actually 20 minutes. I also saw our resident youtuber but at too inopportune a time to say hello.

I will say that while this opening strategy worked, it may not be the most efficient, especially if you aren't used to gaming the wait times. I'm going to try a strategy I think is better tomorrow.

>>2820122
Anybody know what’s up with Cheetah Hunt at BGT? It’s been stuck after the ingestion for weeks. Possibly where the 3rd launch is? If so, maybe the LSMs aren’t working and acting as brakes? I love this ride, it’s pure fun. It’s overhayed by thoosies for lacking intensity. They must have having fun. Thoosies complain about the restraints on it a lot and I’ve had 0 issues reinforcing that they’re also fucking babies.

>>2820122
If I don't give a fuck about the shows, how hard do you think it will be to do everything without express? I'm going two weeks from now on a Wednesday.

How do you know when a wait time is bullshit?

>>2820176
Not him but I did it a couple of years ago. Do the early stay thing, prioritise the IP with the biggest queue to hit first, do a bunch of the non-IP mazes in the vicinity after (which should still have low queues) then balancing IP and non-IP ones when the queues look fine.

It's worth noting that in the last 90s minutes or so of the night, the queue times plummet as everyone starts getting tired and leaving and you can get a lot done pretty fast, especially for when the next day isn't a weekend.

>>2820176
>How do you know when a wait time is bullshit?
Wait times are still calculated by handing a guest a card and finding out how long it took to get on.
By the time that guest gets on the ride, the line is completely different, so posted wait times are lagging indicator.

>>2820206
>Wait times are still calculated by handing a guest a card and finding out how long it took to get on.
This has never happened to me. How often do they do this?

>>2820176
Generally, if a wait time has remained the same for a half hour or more, it's wrong. Low posted waits will draw crowds, so if you get in a 30 minute wait well after everyone else has had a chance to see that wait time, you're probably going to be stuck behind a large group who has the same idea as you. The opposite is true for high wait times. I saw Jason had a 140 minute wait time posted for an entire hour and rightfully assumed that even the most braindead of parkgoers would balk at that.

It is also important to trust your eyes. This isn't as easy for new visitors, but you can get a more accurate guess on wait times by just looking at how long the line is.

>>2814840 (OP)
Do /tpg/ regulars generally consider themselves "theme park people" or "Disney people"? Seems like most discussion here is for Disney parks.

>>2820216
Disney is the premier theme park company in the world, even if they have Universal nipping at their heels as far as quality goes, if they haven't been surpassed. Disney is what people think of when they think of theme parks, and the Florida parks are the major theme park "destination" in America, whereas most other parks are pretty regional. So there's naturally going to be more discussion of these parks because more people go to them.

>>2820216
It depends on flavor of the now.
Dunking on Disney is really easy right now, so we do a lot of that.
Earlier this year pre-Epic it was a big discussion point.
Whenever new RMCs are about to open or beloved rides close at other parks, they come up too.
But yeah, yidsey is a main focus right now just due to the sorry state they're in.

>>2820216
Disneytards are the absolute bottom of the barrel because they're not thoosies at all, just consoomers. Disney just happens to be the corporation they chose as a substitute for having a personality.

Imagine being mad just because some people like a different theme park company then you do lol you're already a worthless fat loser posting on a Tibetan turnip farming forum and you're mad because there are people that like the biggest theme park company on the planet??? LMFAO eat a fucking bullet you pathetic crybaby faggot

>>2820223
Disneytards at least give a shit about what a park is besides how many credits it has for their coaster checklist.

>>2820216
WDW was where I grew up going. Until last year when I did Busch Gardens Tampa, it was the only park I went to. So yeah, sorry if it's all I care to talk about. Universal does not appeal to me enough to go solo like I can with WDW. Really no point in me going at all until I can get an AP that includes Epic.

>>2820241
i like both of them :D

>>2820245
Me too bro

>>2820249
I'm excited to go to Epic Universe when the lines die down a bit, and I'm so excited to go to Disney World next week for the first time in decades. I know it's busier than it was back then, but I know they put a lot of work into the queues so I won't mind waiting for each ride once. And I generally know which rides get long lines so we'll do those early.

>>2820241
>>2820243
Disneytards assblasted AGAIN

There is a timeline where Marvel Super Hero Island was instead the original DC concept and Epic Universe opens with Metropolis instead of Paris. In this alternate timeline Magic Kingdom already got rid of Rivers of America in favor of Wakanda.

>>2820277
DC is more kino than Marvel honestly. Wish they were used in a major theme park instead of just the names of Six Flags rides.

>>2820279
DC is an incredibly poorly managed IP that is held afloat by occasional slam dunk Batman movies

>>2820216
I just gave up talking about things happening at my home parks and only occasionally post about trips I took if I feel like it.

>>2820281
It's just too spread out here to get conversation about local parks, you may get one or two "that's interesting" replies but you can't really have a conversation about a park that only 1-2 other people have visited.

>>2820284
I can confirm Dollywood is more busy than it used to be. Disenfranchised Disney fans are gentrifying my park.

>>2820290
Has nothing to do with that retard. Tennessee's population has swelled recently and the Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge area has massively grown in popularity. Has virtually nothing to do with Disney.

>>2820291
Disenfranchised commifornians then. Fuck off, we're full.

>>2820291
This ride was always closed every time I went to Dollywood and I didn't even notice when they removed it.

>>2820291
>>2820296
Rode it back in the mid 90s, was pretty fun

>>2820291
I’ve seen a few Disney Adults make videos and write articles about Dollywood. I don’t think it’s a negligible amount of overlap, I think the smokies is a serious vacation contender that’s drawing away some Orlando vacation regulars. Vacationing there is not as expensive as a Disney vacation. Not yet anyways. Unless you’re staying at one of Dolly’s hotels or one of those fancy cabins (without other families to split the bill). I can see annual vacationers going every other year and replacing the off years with the smokies, for example.

>>2820298
Maybe, but I think Gatlinburg is more of a 'long weekend' type of vacation than a full replacement for Disney in most situations. I'm a Nashville fag so maybe my thinking is getting a little distorted because that's how I've always viewed it. It's a fun place and even though it's a little kitsch I've always had a great time there and the national park is legit A+ tier. I've been to like 30 national parks and the Smoky's are in the top 5 for me.

Point of my essay is people fly from all over America/the world to go to Disney while I don't think most people do that for Dollywood and it's just a large and absolutely excellent regional park.

>>2820323
There are always those people who spend a week in Gatlinburg as well as people who think they’re nuts for vacationing there. But I don’t think people are flying from all over the country to go there, it’s not an easy or cheap place to fly to. It’s probably cheaper to fly to Nashville and drive the 200 miles than to fly into Knoxville. People in the region yes and also some people within a 500 mile drive. They hear about Dollywood or see a Disney YouTuber make a video and there and it might scratch that theme park itch while Disney continues to price them out.

>page 10
someone plz bake

>>2819997
That means you’d have to sit alone and not next to a complete stranger. What a tragedy.

>>2820279
There is that theme park land in that country that supports the RSF in the Sudanese Civil War and yet still somehow manages to have a better international reputation than Saudi Arabia.

Here are my ideas for a DC theme park:
Wonder Woman greek cuisine (Spanakopita, falafel, wine)
Wonder Woman stage show. Sword fighting, etcetera
Mr Freeze Ice Cream (note: may ruin immersion that a supervillain is the proprietor of an ice cream store.)

>>2820459
>(note: may ruin immersion that a supervillain is the proprietor of an ice cream store.)
Maybe, but the Penguin does canonically own a lounge

>>2820279
If Six Flags goes bankrupt and does a mass sell off the DC/Looney Tunes theme park rights might very well be on the table
I think for DC especially a Universal would love those rights

Tower of Terror has had a very long wait time all day. I think one of the shafts must be broken.

>>2820598
Incredible insight! Thank you!!!

>>2820536
Genius!

>>2820598
This park is going to be atrocious when RnRC goes down for its retheme

>>2820661
So fucking annoying how they close classic rides and reskin them instead of just adding new ones.

>>2820706
>>2820706
>>2820706

>>2820109
[spoiler]>he isnt actually his corpse is on display

>>2820548
Warner Brothers needs to just up their game. Dubai already has the money, just do the creative experimenting there and then spread it.

>>2820459
Wonder Woman as a Greek is a new thing. She's obviously American

>>2820291
It has absolutely everything to do with that.

>>2820216
It depends on who is here. Disney folks like myself gentrified it but every once in a while the nerds who have jargon about random Rollercoaster parks come back to reclaim the land.

>>2820057
Why is Minecart so popular

>>2820051
Are they good

>>2819635
Lol my boyfriend told me my nickname is is Oliver Twist

>>2814960
You forgot Animal Kingdom and SeaWorld

>>2820892
Yes. It's not modern action slop and the subject matter is interesting enough to make it worthwhile