Thread 2818640

I need to get the fuck out of my parents house and start my life far away from here.

Can any of you give me some advice? I have a little bit of money (like $1000), is there any country I can fly to, get a job, start working/living there with a somewhat decent quality of life?

Ideally a part time job?

>>2818640 (OP)
Not gonna say what country you're from, any skills or education?
You seem dumb already

>>2818641
I'm from the USA and have a bachelors degree in mechanical engineering and some stupid work experience

>>2818646
It would be easier to move to another part of the USA

>>2818646
If you insist on moving abroad, you can make a fake TEFL Certificate and go work in Cambodia or Laos. Or pretty much any Latin American country for dogshit money. There are also some African countries (I worked in Ethiopia and Somaliland). TEFL is the go to.
Alternatively, if you are extrovert and charismatic you can work in timeshare in Thailand, Costa Rica, Mexico and parts of the Caribbean. They provide free accommodation and training for the first month but it's commision only so you better believe in yourself.
You can also work in hostels in Latin America for a subsistence-level life. Same shit with bar work in Vang Vieng on a tourist visa. This is more "for the experience" though. I highly recommend you take the first option if you insist on leaving the US.

>>2818640 (OP)
>$1000
Nope. The way things are now anon, if you want to give yourself a legit shot, you need 10K. That gives you a solid 6 months of runway at a temporary living situation while you aggressively apply for jobs while eating pasta and hotdogs everyday. You take the first job that hires you, then look for a job that actually want, lock in a lease with the pay stubs, and chill.

With 10k that can be done without you being concerned with running out of financial road while you DILIGENTLY work towards situating yourself.

I did it with 2k in Denver, but I had to illegally occupy an Airbnb for an additional 1.5 months until I was kicked out by two scary looking men hired precisely for that purpose, eat through the food that was left there by the previous weasel, and shoplift, in order to save enough money to string together the deposit for an apartment while working shit temp warehouse jobs. I got the apartment and then searched for an “actual job” to lock into.

It was a formative experience that cemented my economic dexterity but it was stressful

>>2818667
I bought a one-way ticket to Addis Ababa with only $600 and found a job. $10k? I didn't see OP asking for advice from pussies.

>>2818651
>I highly recommend you take the first option if you insist on leaving the US.
NTA and not even American, but I'm doing this right now lol.
And tips for teaching?

If you’re not smart enough to figure it out on your own, then you’re not smart enough to survive in another country.

>>2818678
can you say more?
how did you figure out the visa if that was necessary? what did you do?

>>2818769
Came in on a tourist visa, printed off some CVs, got a taxi to take me around all the language centers and third-tier international schools, got interviews, picked a job, converted tourist visa to work visa. Rinse and repeat this process for a hundred other shithole countries. It works every time. I've worked in loads of different countries.

>>2818640 (OP)
Why not just save up for an extra few months, doesn't have to be a career job any job. 10k will make you much more comfortable.1k won't even cover a deposit so you'll be slumming it hard or sleeping in your car if you have one.

>>2818646
if you fuck off now to another country working in a difft field, you will have wasted your degree. at least get a job with a contractor or something on a military base. go up to alaska or something. save more money at least. $1000 is hardly going get you airfare

>>2818803
>. go up to alaska or something
that's not a bad idea at all....

>>2818803
Do you have any recommendations on what types of work I can get with a mechanical engineering degree in alaska? Do you know how long it might take to get work?

sorry for the stupid questions, I've been unemployed for like two years now.

>>2818640 (OP)
I was in your shoes twenty years ago. Two options that I considered at the time included going to Israel to work on a kibbutz (one of my friends could arrange the necessary paperwork to be Jewish) and going to Australia on a working holiday visa to be a jackaroo. The Australia option is particularly interesting, because the working holiday visa can now be extended up to three years.

>>2818686
Dance harder if you want them to stop throwing peanuts
Dance less if you want free peanuts

>>2818818
what did you end up doing?

>>2818838
I became a dirty jew

>>2818646
people from all over the world want to move to the USA for the US dollar, you probably have the best bang for your buck there. Compare it to Canada or any other firstworld nation, you are born in the best spot. Why do you only have $1k saved? Stay with your parents and save up like $20k and then move to a different part of the country with reasonable rent prices and good job opportunities.

Look into Alaskan fishing jobs.

I was once in the same position as you

With a mechanical engineering degree, you could transition into being an engineer on the boat (actually you don't need a degree for that, but it helps)

You'll have free room and board, and food. Your only expenses will be personal stuff ike cigarettes, soap, ect

Its some hard ass work, 12-16 hours a day for 2-3 months straight with no days off, but you could easily save 15-20k a month just starting out with no degree or experience required.

I've been doing this for 10 years, I make money on the boat then go live in the Philippines on my off time and enjoy the fuck out of my life. I have a wife, 2 kids, and a gang of servants I support/pay on my salary. I'm a resident on the Philippines generals on this board BTW, check it out sometime, Cubabro

OP if you have a ME from a real university I am not sure how you don't have a job unless you are putting a GPA on the resume and just straight up have a shitty resume. There are services out there that will redo your resume for a small fee.

Alaska is laughable, you'll get there with 1k have no way to put down a security deposit on any apartment and run out of money like any of those other people who moved up. Fishing season is about over so good luck there, they also only take people who have a body type to support it. A bunch of people during Covid moved up and fucked rent prices and the job market so good luck.

Real answer, look into Fargo or Minot ND. There are a bunch of oil companies up there than have you work 6-8 months in Canada, then come home and do fuck all for winter. If you have no criminal record unironically go to USAjobs.gov, filter to civilian jobs, and be willing to move. Something tells me you got an ME degree, live with mom and dad in fuck all place, and unwilling to move. ME jobs are basically in demand for any port city right now, especially around naval bases. Also look up staffing agencies.

A lot of feds in here trying to stop brain drain from the USA lmfao. Should've thought of that before trying to ban all white men from the workforce. Have fun with your DEI workforce.

>>2818808
As someone who had job offers up there, and has a good friend/roommate from there it is.

There are few places to work, most everything is reliant on seasonal labor, wages have stagnated as COVID pushed a lot of remote workers up to Alaska from the brown people. Everything eats your salary, you'll need a car which is stupid expensive(you're not going to use the bus lol), and whatever hobby you have to not go crazy during winter will eat at you.

I was within a hairs grasp of moving before I did more research, ultimately stopped due to so many downsides and realizing even without any income tax I'd be losing far more cash. Alaska is not the show up, give em a firm handshake looking them square in the eye, and ask for a job fantasy people think. It has the same problem Hawaii has in the fact you can move there with a good job, and then realize you're poor-rich due to the cost of living and have no opportunity to move back out.

>>2818857
Anon is an ME, there is basically no better country to be one for a high paying flexible job than the US. Not to mention, ME jobs often require near fluent understanding of the language to be hired in due to it's scope of work. What's more concerning here is OP unemployed for 2 years and not even working some job putting fries in the bag to show for it. If he lives with his parents he should wage slave at least a year and move abroad with at minimum 10k to start something new

>>2818858
It's not crazy the economy has completely locked zoomers out of the workforce. Unemployed STEM grads is becoming normal.

>>2818860
Most zoomies I know apply for shit way above what they should be due to the fact their college professor fed them some meme line about how they should be making 150k any job you want just give em a firm handshake! deal.

Most my friends in the 24-28 range literally dig their heels in regarding where they will work, unwilling to move, and unwilling to take things under 6figs. It's actually kind of revolting people only a few years younger than I have their heads so far up their ass. Not saying that's OP's issue, but ME jobs are definitely in demand here in the midwest.

>>2818854
>Look into Alaskan fishing jobs.
any tips on getting these? is there a website or is it more word of mouth once you get up there?

>>2818862
Not specific to fishing but virtually any job that is quick hire is going to be on the alaska.gov website
https://labor.alaska.gov/landing-pages/job-seekers.html

One big thing for Alaska jobs is that most will require some Alaska address prior to hiring, there are some jobs that will relocate you but the bulk of jobs are going to want you to already reside there. OP has a better job getting a good paying CDL job than Alaska work

>>2818861
Once you've been out of work a while it becomes hard and then impossible. My brother has a degree in ME but after being unemployed a while, he's completely locked out. Now he's just doing food delivery. At least his wife makes a boatload.

>>2818863
good to know. thanks

>>2818864
I won't deny that gaps in resumes don't make it harder to get back in, but there are staffing agencies that will shove you into work so long as the area isn't some bumfuck hick town like Lawton OK. ME, if you're willing to work for the US government is always in demand though you probably need to relocate unless you're already by a main base.

If I ever get fucked I'm 100% just going to do CDL before food delivery, I know a ton of people who do 6 months on/6 months off and live well.

>>2818854
> 2-3 months straight with no days off
Are these considered full time jobs? You get health insurance or no?

>>2818869
It's considered Seasonal work similar to being a farm hand anon. You'll probably get life insurance at most and expect you to pay for your own stuff as you'll be contract work like most farm help is.

>>2818861
Yeah man good luck even getting hired for 50k or affording rent at 50k.They just want H1B slaves now.

>>2818858
No car required for seasonal jobs in Alaska. Many of them provide dorm housing and food. Is it a slave-tier lifestyle? Yeah, but you should be able to make friends with your coworkers and save moat of your paycheck. Company charter flights from Seattle are the norm for fishing/cannery work. Sadly, it's the end of summer and most jobs are winding down, so getting hired is unlikely...but you still should try.
>>2818775
NGL I've toyed with the idea of teaching English overseas. It's tempting as a way to escape the goycattle taxfarm that is the USA for longer than a few months. Following a curriculum would take some getting used to. I'd definitely want to teach more gifted students who would like to refine their English skills to First World tier profiency (or better, given how many barely literate mutts there are in America)

>>2818908
Is it a slave tier lifestyle?

Yes, working on a fishing boat, or any commercial vessel for that matter is not glamorous...

But as I said, you're expenses would zero because you live on the boat.


When you're working 6 months out of the year and making 150k as a chief engineer, and then leveraging that money by living in a 3rd world shit hole, life can become amazing quick. Life is even amazing at 60k a year in a place like the Philippines or Vietnam.

>>2818863
The shitty seasonal jobs will hire almost anybody with authorization to work in the USA. The full-time positions want you to already be established in the state, obviously. They will pay a higher hourly wage than the seasonal gigs, but I don't recommend seeking one of those out unless you're gaga in love with the idea of living in America's Little Siberia.
>>2818667
I concur in keeping $10,000 on hand as a suitable reserve fund for adventuring, unless you plan on going the "hey dad, I'm in a bit of a tough spot right now" route the moment your bank card stops working at the ATM due to lack of funds.
>>2818651
Some of these options are good if anon wants to go the hyper-frugal "fuck the system" route and avoid currency usage altogether. I'd add volunteer farm labor in Hawaii as an option, especially with the winter cold setting in shortly. Some people do that and then go vagabond backpacking all over the islands, hammocking for free on remote beaches and generally being free spirits. You're definitely going to want to sign up for an EBT/SNAP card before you choose the Hawaii option.

>>2818908
Is it just for young men? How old is too old if you want to work on a fishing boat?

>>2818838
I didn't mention it, because it's not for most people, but I joined a cult. It was a lot of fun, especially after working my way up to management. I traveled a lot, did a couple of foreign postings, met my wife, and worked with interesting people. Money wasn't great, but I never had to worry about losing my job. My wife and I left for purely practical reasons when we were expecting our first kid, but overall it was a good experience.

Another option that I haven't seen mentioned is the military. With his bachelor's degree, OP could go to OCS and become an officer. DO NOT FUCKING ENLIST. ENLISTED LIFE IS THE DUMBEST SHIT EVER. Seems like an officer with a mechanical engineering degree would be useful in the Navy.

OP why can't you wage slave for 1 year before moving out? Like legitimately I know it sucks and all but moving with 1000 to your name is going to result in debt and you cralwing back home. Hell even 6 months at some shitty subway job would put you in far better standings and at least a couple grand more to move anywhere. 1 Year living with mom and dad while working should net you at LEAST 25k. That's actually good money that can last you 12-18 months in SEA, especially the cheaper countries like Malaysia

>>2818955
>I joined a cult
>Money wasn't great
Mormons are loaded. How did you fuck up that badly?

>>2818919
Anon I would say most likely 9 out of 10 anons would fail the deckhand roles that pay the most. Pretty much all postings require good physical fitness to be accepted, no doubt they want you to be lifting(functionally not smith machine) at least 100lbs regularly without needing a 5 minute break after.

>>2819061
Are there other jobs on t\he ship? Aren't they like floating packing plants or factoriess? Do the cooks get paid as much?

>>2819119
Yes, there are plenty of onshore cannery jobs, which have just as onerous working hours but are much less physically demanding. They also pay less. Think $12 per hour for 40 hours, plus 60 hours of overtime a week. Flights to/from Seattle, room and board are all comped if you complete the work commitment you signed on being hired.

>>2819057
Many people have set out on their own with less. I set out on the road with about $1500 back in February 2015. Met some traveling hippies, did some volunteering, tried some gig work (it didn't work out too well), tried to settle down in some Ohio college town (cops basically ran me out of town), then three months later I landed a seasonal job in New Hampshire with dorm housing. Arrived with about $300 remaining, and vowed to never let my funds dip that low again. The gig work earnings was the only thing that kept me from hitting $0.
>>2819057
>at least 25K
Not if OP has to finance a car in order to get to work.

>>2818866
What? Bumfuck hick towns almost always have temp staffing agencies, especially those in agricultural areas. If you don't have a car, 99/100 you're not gonna be able to work any of those jobs.

>>2819297
>Not if OP has to finance a car in order to get to work.
What is a bus pass? unless OP is literally in the smallest of towns most have buses, hell even my shithole small town back home in Sioux Falls has a decent bus pass. If OP is an ME 99% chance he has some kind of infrastructure.
>Many people have set out on their own with less.
Great and many more have failed.

>>2819298
> If you don't have a car, 99/100 you're not gonna be able to work any of those jobs.
OP needs to show where he is from but if OP is able to get online he should be able to at the very least get some bullshit online job or a part time at a gas station. Something tells me if he got an ME degree there is more to work around town than the one gas station and family dollar.

>>2819119
>Are there other jobs on t\he ship? Aren't they like floating packing plants or factoriess? Do the cooks get paid as much?
LMAO unless you actually no cooking, no a line cook down at chili's doesn't count, you're not getting in.

If you're trying to get rich quick for minimal effort, literally just get a CDL and go.

>>2818678
Sounds fucking stupid and desperate. Fuck North Africans.

What can I do realistically if I am a neet of 30 years?

>>2819486
Depending on where you live, a lot or a little.

>>2819466
>Sounds fucking stupid and desperate. Fuck North Africans
I was young and free and living adventure. Good times. I'm early retired now. Sounds like you're curious how my dick tastes.

>>2819490
California. and to pretty much anywhere as long as it's not hot constantly.

>>2819497
Go work at in-n-out at the very least or some dumbshit retard

Alternatively, get a CDL and sit in a truck for big bucks

>>2819499
Y'all need to get off this idea of CDL being good money. It was in the boomer and Gen x days. Now it's overrun with Haitians, Arabs and Saars who work for pennies per mile and don't care about safety or logging or even basic pre trip stuff. Tell me how an American is going to compete with that without endangering lives on the road.

>>2819675

What about working on the base in Greenland or Antarctica?

>>2818862
Don't do it.

Alaska fishing is the most desperate dead-end you can find. Most workers cannot read, are missing many teeth, or do not speak English.

Work shifts are 12 hours on, 6 hours off, 12 hours on, 6 hours off, etc.

This immediately disorients you as to what day/time it is. It becomes more surreal from there. You will puke from seasickness until you get used to it. If you get an ear infection from wet/cold 24/7, you will get kicked off the boat. Then you may have to work in a cannery on land just to get back home.

No days off. No privacy. Very military. You will stop showering/doing laundry just to get sleep. You will be wet & cold all day/night.

The only way to make real money is to do it for more than 2 seasons. Then your contract will move up in percentage of shares of the fish caught.

Free room & board but not free. Very hard work.

Instead, buy a used van, park in temperate Seattle or West Coast, and work at UPS. Benefits immediately, pay increases quickly, sleep in the van/avoid rent until you are on your feet. Faster money and easier than a boat.

Not to mention the risk of injury/death on a boat. Higher than being on dry land.

>>2819675
Average CDL salary is 70k-95k anon,
>Now it's overrun with Haitians, Arabs and Saars who work for pennies per mile and don't care about safety or logging or even basic pre trip stuff.
YA BRO I JUST WENT ON POL AND IT'S LEGIT

You know Trump and many other states are basically revoking work visa's for foreign truck drivers who can't pass a simple english exam, reevaluating the CDL issued to them, and halting the validity of California CDL issued documents right?

By all means go be a doomer

>>2819436
>small town
>Sioux Falls population: 209,000
Anon, Sioux Falls is a big city. Of course it has city buses. And yes, you're likely to fail or stagnate at best if you pick a generic job + apartment in a labor-glutted urban job market, versus a niche job in a labor-scarce rural location where you are able to work independent of your coworkers and (most importantly) stack away the majority of your net pay in the bank.
>>2819675
Bullshit. Every CDL driver I know is pulling $6000/month or more. You can skip having a house altogether if you want to go hardcore for a couple years. With two years of experience under your belt, most companies will hire you on the spot even if you've been out traveling the world for a while.
>>2819745
You need money to buy a van, outfit it, and be able to afford all the expenses of vehicle ownership. Then your trouble only begins, with all the overnight parking restrictions in said temperate West Coast cities. Where do you poop in the morning? In a doggy bag in the back of your van? On the sidewalk?

>>2819851
>I'm a trumpfag who gets my news from /pol/.
You must be 18 to use this site.
>>2820002
>Bullshit. Every CDL driver I know is pulling $6000/month or more. You can skip having a house altogether if you want to go hardcore for a couple years. With two years of experience under your belt, most companies will hire you on the spot even if you've been out traveling the world for a while.
In specialized fields, dipshit. Unless you're taking your two years and going for some kind of local job.

>>2820019
I noticed that the jobs the Mexicans used to do around here are now being done by Indians. Stuff like landscaping, maintenance work

The west is collapsing emigrate out to a lower COL nation with a better future unless you want to be competing with infinity browns for 0 jobs. All the jobs are in Asia now.

>>2820121
If jeets are doing lawn care now, it's unironically time to pack it up. >>2820123
Working on it. Trying to figure out where is worth moving to. Would need a place where low IQs and undesirables get filtered by the language and culture. Even Japan wants to import jeets so I'm out of guesses. China?

>>2820002
The metro in total is like 200k, I wouldn't exactly call that "big" it's decent but not "big", it and Fargo are the biggest small cities I know.

>>2820128
>uh jeets
Haven't you been spamming that shit enough? Jeets are only a problem for the most low of low tier retards to be replaced with or people working hellscape jobs in LA. Yeah they suck but you have to be living in a megacity hell hole to actually run into them on a regular basis. There are basically 0 when you get into the midwest states

CDL will at mimimum have you hitting 4k/mo in your bank if you're willing to max out hours in the months ahead and then get the creds for long hauls where you make the big bucks.

>>2820123
I can literally pay 620/mo for a large 1br apartment, or 750 for a 2br in the midwest where rent increases are not as common. If you want to complain about jeets >>>/g/ low bait jeet spam is just dumb.

>>2820019
LOL, no. They're all pulling dry van trailers on OTR routes. Specialized truckers (hazmat tanker / oilfield truckers, for instance) gross upwards of $100K per year.
If insurance companies won't insure a driver due to a record of accidents or citations, he will become unhireable. The turnover in the industry is very high; unprofessional truckers quickly wash out.
>>2820197
>basically zero
My small town liquor store just hired a Sikh, lol. The first South Asian I've seen in town.

Americans are delusional if they think they will find a better income to expense ratio working locally somewhere outside the USA.
>>2820123
The immigrants wouldn't be so eager to come to America, Canada, etc. if jobs here didn't pay so much better in COL terms than they did back in Asia.

>>2820227
>My small town liquor store just hired a Sikh, lol. The first South Asian I've seen in town.

>Americans are delusional if they think they will find a better income to expense ratio working locally somewhere outside the USA.

No one in america types this way, you're just a retarded euro seething about america again and the best comeback you got is about Jeets. What pray tell "small town" do you live in anon, I can't wait to hear about it.

>>2820197
Ah. Another retard. Let me guess: boomer, right? Hopefully you fucks die off quickly. Or, you can do the charitable thing and moll yourself NOW.

>>2820227
LOL, yes. If true (which I doubt), there is more to the story than what you're telling. None of you people on 4chan know what you're talking about. It's the same shit on /k/ with military enlistment. You're worse than reddit at this point.

>>2820230
That's just it, anon. He doesn't know what he's talking about about.

>>2820197
Ah. Another retard. Let me guess: boomer, right? Given that you hallucinate me "spamming jeets" when I've barely mentioned them in my thread we'll assume you're a boomer. Hopefully you fucks die off quickly. Or, you can do the charitable thing and kill yourselves NOW.

>>2820227
LOL, yes. If true (which I doubt), there is more to the story than what you're telling. None of you people on 4chan know what you're talking about. It's the same shit on /k/ with military enlistment. You're worse than reddit at this point.

>>2820230
That'sjust it, anon. He doesn't know what he's talking about about.

>Muh alaska fishing
Ah yes and you'll get it by showing up as a good ole chap in a wood cutter outfit spiffing a quaint red cap, giving them a firm handshake and looking them square in the eye asking for a job, ya?

you are 10x more likely to get a job in the oil industry than fishing because at least the oil industry will do a fair bit of on-the-job training. Working a boat requires sea legs, the ability to lift heavy objects, knowledge how to swim no I go in the pool doesn't work sea worthy swimming, and much much more.

What is the facination with people going "Alaska fishing? yeah that seems simple enough! I'm ready coach put me in" but going down the street to work at an airconditioned and easily accessible, call your own hours, get supplemented benefit costs, with subway or some cashier job for 12-18hr(seen as high as 22 in midwest) is like WHOA you expect me to do THAT?! Uhh hello cringe department! Hell even state and local governments have bullshit jobs you can get with ease assuming a clean record and can test clean on a drug test; those are fucking lifer jobs that often require 0 critical thinking and pay decent with full benefits.

>>2820197
>basically 0 when you get into the midwest states
Chicago has a lot of Indians.

They also own and run hotels even in rural areas throughout the Midwest.

>>2820293
>state and local governments have bullshit jobs
You need connections for those

>>2820301
State and local? No you just need a clean record, willing to pass a drug test regularly, and have a credit check/criminal check done.

I know I've applied off the cuff a few times when I thought the jobs at the time were going under. In the midwest specifically it's very easy, I applied for a 90k/yr sysadmin position. Just 6 years SysAdmin EXP, Certs, and a good looking resume was offered a sweet deal at the time 88k+3% year raises, all federal holidays+4 weeks PTO, retirement, and a good 401k pacakage. If I wasn't struck with the travel bug and my job stuck to remote; I would have accepted. I tried to pass off local gov jobs I got offered to good friends I know. It's always the same shit, once regular drug tests for weed or shit come up they back off, full credit and criminal check? back off, need some expirence in the field even if basic? Bullshit man.... Then it's "yeah you gotta know someone to be there" shit.

>>2820543
>Just 6 years SysAdmin EXP, Certs, and a good looking resume
gee

>>2820543
Shut up. You need connections, end of story. I would know. I live in FL.
>Just 6 years experience
>Just 6
>Just
So in other words, your whole post is null and voided? Thanks for playing.

>>2820645
>>2821085
>have job at grocery store through HS
>graduate HS and show I've had a job for at least 2 years and reliable
>go grab A+
>go get job at some small computer repairshop or callcenter resetting peoples home routers
>by the time you're 24 you now have at least 5 years EXP
Did that when I was working through community college, dropped out of college since my resume and certificates I obtained, time spoke for itself.

>>2818640 (OP)
Enlist on a two year contract in the army, go cyber, enroll in the community college of the air force to get your associates degree, save every cent possible during your time in, use it to rent an apartment somewhere you want to live

>>2818908
Literally just work two jobs and save money it’s not that hard bro>>2818908