Thread 2819101

What is it about traveling in the America-sphere (Canada, US, Mexico) that's so fucking soulless and depressing? Just looking at a piece of land in the USA depresses me. It has this dead, empty, cold vibe. There's something evil about it.

NYC is the *only* pocket in the Americas that feels like it has some semblence of soul. But you can also feel that like getting sucked out post covid too. (No, mexican shitholes including cdmx do NOT have any soul. They are poisoned with the america evil energy.)

>>2819101 (OP)
>NYC is the *only* pocket in the Americas that feels like it has some semblence of soul.
Anon at least try with your b8 next time, this wasn't even that good to begin with, but you screwed the pooch right there.

>>2819102
OP is onto something he just staked out too extreme a position. Mexico and Canada are true zero soul location, the USA is definitely more a mixed bag though proportionally its at least 5:1 soulless:soulful.

>>2819112
Nah, the whole "no SOUL!!!" meme is just poorfags who doomscroll on their phones and can't reach meaningful locations due to lack of understanding basic transportation methods. Every stupid fuck like OP is trolling to be as often never has a car or license to drive to places with a personality and when abroad if a train doesn't go there their brains 404.

Above all else, these people wanting 'muh soul' are people with no personality or social skills to engage in the situation expecting the SOVL!!! to be shoved down their throats mimicing the shit some influencer had it. Finding places that resonate with you is easy for anyone with the ability to operate a car and isn't a poorfag larping as a richfag.

>>2819101 (OP)
>There's something evil about it.
it is an evil country

>>2819112
Where do you find the US has soul? Thank you for also acknowledging that even le spicy meme Mexico is a soulless heap.

>>2819121
I don't understand the connection. Driving usually brings me to soulless shitholes.

>>2819124
perhaps

>>2819121
Most of the cities are terrible. I think you can count the soulful large US cities on one hand. There’s a bit more medium and especially small city gems, but overall if you were to look at the populated part of the country its largely soulless.

Rural areas aren’t much better. The middle third of the country is a giant corn/basedbean/wheat field. Economically a boon, but (with a few notable exceptions) not very soulful and actually quite dismal if you’re not a landowner.

The wilderness areas are amazing and obviously the envy of the rest of the world.

>>2819124
Yes it’s distinctly demonic. Most Americans, particularly the recent arrivals but also a lot of people who are generational Americans, are transparently evil and selfish. The society is rotten in most ways.

Still it’s got some redeeming spots and in a country 350,000,000 there’s still more good people here than any other country has.

>>2819101 (OP)
>muh soul

>>2819101 (OP)
Because they don't like China

The entire continent has negative energy because it is haunted by the ghosts of Native Americans

>>2819141
>The wilderness areas are amazing and obviously the envy of the rest of the world.

Even that is too generous. Even the nature has this soul-sucked deadness about it. Appalachia is particularly hollow and empty. The southwest is a little cool though, and so is the PNW (which ironically has the most soulless people)

>>2819147
nonwhite who can't grok abstract human feelings.

>>2819195
>Appalachia
It has that serial killer vibe

>>2819195
You’re out of your mind. even in the wildnerness in less striking areas like Wisconsin or Louisiana is distinctly beautiful, lush and warm. You lose some of the scale because we’ve bulldozed it to shove a hundred and fifty or so million brown migrants, but America is like the garden of Eden in its unspoiled form. Read some accounts of what it was like for the white explorers, it blows your mind.

you can still find that, you just have to get off the beaten trail. I doubt you have.

But yeah the rest of your complaints are pretty valid. The country sucks. It’s plagued, a grotesque abomination, a cursed golem brought up in a demonic image and filled the brim with unscrupulous and ugly people.

>>2819101 (OP)
NYC is soulless America. A bunch of random mutts thrown together in a city, all devoted to serving the Almighty Dollar.

You don't know shit about Mexico, either. You haven't even traveled Mexico, much less hung out on the plaza of a typical Mexican town on a Sunday or holiday.

Mexicans will lay down in the middle of the road to get their teachers a salary raise, kek

The police don't haul them off to jail, instead they put up a few cones and let them do their thing.

Carnival in the park in Hermosillo. Everyone out with their loved ones having fun.

>America is soulless
This is the view from my bedroom window in America. What do you see from your hotel room in so-called "sovlful" locations? A bunch of traffic and Third World cinderblock shit, kek.

If anything, it's Pattaya that had that dead, empty, cold vibe. Everyone 100% fake and superficial. None of the boomer coomers will meet your eye.

Don’t know if I can agree OP I’m having a lovely time in Canada

>>2819141
>more good people here than any other country has.
Just one Indian state has more good people than this one

>>2819259
US was nice as well

>amerijew soullets rushing to damage control the thread

"PLEASE NO LOOK AT THIS PICTURE OF A SHITTY HILL AND TREES THERES NO WHERE ON EARTH LIKE IT ITS SOULFUL ITS SOULFUL ITS SOOOOOOOOUL"
LMAO

>>2819274
>unspoiled, untamed nature as far as the eye can see
>coupled with excellent recreational infrastructure for road travelers
There really isn't anything like this outside North America
Where's your travel pics of peak soul? An Indian slum market?

>>2819259
Where is that?

>>2819350
Just north of Eagle Plains

>>2819350
>>2819358
you guys have to go to the sandhills you would love it

>>2819101 (OP)
>What is it about traveling in the America-sphere (Canada, US, Mexico) that's so fucking soulless and depressing
Lawns without gardens
roads without trees lining them
Freemasonic temples everywhere

>>2819139
>>2819141
>Most of the cities are terrible
>I don't understand the connection. Driving usually brings me to soulless shitholes.
Have you ever considered you're just a boring person?

My job pre-covid had me driving coast to coast all over the USA, never had issues enjoying the sunsets in places, meeting people in small roadside bars and taverns, spending weekends around some event with locals, enjoying some really nice scenery of hidden spots suggested to me, and some of the best food on the planet.

Oh but I guess it's not HK at night so the SOVL is gone

>>2819220
>. Read some accounts of what it was like for the white explorers, it blows your mind.
any book recommendations for that?

>>2819241
Dude that looks like shit. Like the mountains are nice I guess but LA has mountains.

The building look like pure cattle slop wagies live in and drink budwiser after work talking about trucks and football. There probably isn't a good pub or brewery within hours of driving to sit down and talk with some females under 200 pounds and under 30. WTF would you do I'm surprised you even have internet unless it's starlink. wtf is there even to do there, I don't think you "get" what soul is. Like what meals do you even eat that isn't corn based slop that mid IQ neanderthals coomsoom? "Yeah ted got me a road kill steak! YEE HAW Let's eat and polish each others "guns" haha!"

>>2819239
Looks like it has 1/5 soul levels but really seems too crowded, I can't even see like some EDM stage or whatever, if that's a carnival that looks lame dude.

>>2819101 (OP)
This is a very interesting topic. I have been once to Canada and once to the US, and while I wouldn't go so far as to say the energy was soulless or evil, I definitely felt different on the North American continent. It was like a weird semi-conscious thing; it was as if something had shifted and I felt deep down that I was somewhere far removed from home (Ireland). I felt some of that too when I was in Hong Kong, albeit a different sort of energy to North America. It felt less forbidding, somehow. Despite the fact that it's crowded and oppressively humid, the energy was a bit lighter. Something less ancient, cold and looming.

I know this probably sounds like incoherent schizo nonsense, but does anyone else get this whenever they're in locations far removed from home? If so, I would be interested to hear what Europe in general and Ireland in particular feels like to you, if you've been here.

>>2819435
Undaunted Courage by Stephen A Ambrose is a great place to start.

>>2819377
>Lawns without gardens
>roads without trees lining them
These two bother me way too much.

>>2819290
>No place else on the planet has beautiful untamed nature except America

LMAO MUTT EDUCATION. Mutts have lost the plot so hard. They know they can't defend their absolute garbage homeless ridden cities with their soulless nu-architecture so they have to pretend their mountains are more special than a mountain elsewhere LMAO

>>2819101 (OP)
>America sux
>frog
>>>/int/

>>2819432
This, not being able to enjoy USA is a skill issue

>>2819101 (OP)
Cars.
You either travel through a space designed for cars, and thus empty and soulless for a pedestrian, without ever leaving a few tourist traps between which you move, or you rent a car, and travel like an American. But even with freedom of movement, a space designed for cars will feel soulless.

New York, is the only US city that is sort of walkable. But it's about as soulless as it gets by all other metrics.

>>2819469
Curious to see what you consider good

>>2819682
tiresome leftist talking point. Picrel is a road made for cars in Masuria, but note the simple act of planting oak trees on the sides - completely different experience
these trees around the Wolf's Lair and Giżycko remember Hitler himself - there are many even more beautiful alleyways that you will have to visit the region itself to enjoy

>>2819469
Thanks for revealing your ignorance about America. Gonna try and list all the cool shit my everyday American town of 5000 people has...
>Several Main Street pubs, including two bicycle-centric pubs, a wine cellar, an indoor music venue with weekly cover-charge bands, a brewpub with banquet space, a ultra-luxury hotel/restaurant/ballroom facility, a rustic "dive" bar, a rooftop terrace bar - need I go on?
>one of America's most famous whitewater rivers with numerous wave parks for river surfing (bet you never even heard of it)
>America's second-highest paved mountain pass is 15 miles up the county road that runs past my place
>a huge festival grounds within easy bicycling distance of town that recently hosted an acid festival headlining King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard for a crowd of 10,000 people
>multiple 14,000' peaks with two long-distance trails running through (the Colorado Trail and the Continental Divide National Scenic Trail) - this in addition to countless other hiking trails leading to alpine lakes and rocky summits
>half a dozen bakeries producing delicious breads, treats and other goodies from scratch
>numerous restaurants, including everything from Thai food and sushi to bison burgers, fancy salads, steaks, amazing Italian food, steaks & ribs, and dozens of other menu offerings
>two food truck courts, a traditional root beer stand, ice cream & dessert shops, hipster cafes
>numerous artisan stores selling handmade local crafts, including enormous finely crafted items worth thousands of dollars
>bookstores with hangout spaces, antique toy stores, a historic farmstead that serves as a traditional music venue on Thursday nights, free concerts in the town park every Friday
>hiking trails starting at the end of Main Street and climbing as high as 1700' above the town to the peak of a nearby hill
>3500 hours of sunshine a year (more than anywhere in Europe), brisk cool mornings even in the middle of July

>>2819682
Chicago and SF are extremely walkable.

>>2819709
America has many regions where people LOVE their trees. The shoreline communities of Lake Michigan in the lower part of Michigan have some of the most beautiful forests I've seen anywhere (excuse the shitty phone camera).

>>2819718
not bad but these trees do not look very impressive - thin trunks and rather unkempt. Oak trees historically have been sacred for Indo-European peoples, being associated with Zeus (Dodonian Zeus) by the Greeks and Perun among the Slavs, and they line northern European roads.

I will admit in Grey County, Ontario some keep the faith and separate their farmer's fields from other plots and the road with trees, sometimes even oak. But go farther southwest to the farms north of Sarnia and London and you have hell on earth - not a tree to be found by the road, only gargantuan wind turbines

picrel somewhere in Ireland possibly

lol chronically unhappy mopey op

>>2819241
Do you live in an Amazon warehouse complex?

American has 330 million people, and yet all they can use to justify their shithole country is patches of undeveloped land where obese mutts have not ruined it yet. Says all you need to know.

>>2819101 (OP)
I would say a lot of soul in Oregon.
Astoria has a lot of soul now that Hollywood is gone the old buildings are beautifully decayed
Grants Pass has that tweaker drug addicted vibe that has soul
Portland in any place that has zero weirdos or ANTIFA actually has more soul than anywhere save for Tokyo.
Bend Oregon is amazingly beautiful and has a lot of charm. All y'all burned out Europeans go to Oregon man you'll be surprised I think.

>>2819474
>This is a very interesting topic. I have been once to Canada and once to the US, and while I wouldn't go so far as to say the energy was soulless or evil, I definitely felt different on the North American continent. It was like a weird semi-conscious thing; it was as if something had shifted and I felt deep down that I was somewhere far removed from home (Ireland). I felt some of that too when I was in Hong Kong, albeit a different sort of energy to North America. It felt less forbidding, somehow. Despite the fact that it's crowded and oppressively humid, the energy was a bit lighter. Something less ancient, cold and looming.

My nigga. You get it too. For me, it's this weird feeling of desperate exhaustion. The sameness of everything, the emptyness and uniformity, it just makes a feeling of exhaustion. I get this depressing feeling looking out at the vast valleys and mountains in the US, but I don't on other continents.

>>2819101 (OP)
lmao ur an NPC

>>2819474
>This is a very interesting topic.
It's not. This easily one of the most over discussed topics of past 250 years.
>I felt deep down that I was somewhere far removed from home (Ireland)
Oh you're a hick and a young Northwest European. Of course you're ignorant enough to not be bored to death by this.

>>2820067
And Eugene is like a mix of all of the above
Europe is still much nicer in most ways though

>>2819156
kek @ indian blood crying out to God for vengeance

>>2820077
Yes, I kind of know what you mean. It's as if humans weren't really meant to be on that continent, and it feels hostile as a result.

>>2820104
>This easily one of the most over discussed topics of past 250 years.
Not as of late.
>Oh you're a hick and a young Northwest European. Of course you're ignorant enough to not be bored to death by this.
Northwestern Europeans are generally some of the best travelled people in the world. Don't be silly.