Thread 2824590

THIS IS A WARNING
Do not listen to people here who think of themselves as travel experts.

just came back from Bosnia and followed advice from some anons here and it ruined it

>>2824590 (OP)
>just came back from Bosnia
You fucked it up yourself anon, no one here is to blame for you going to that shithole. Most people probably gave you troll advice because they thought you were a troll.

>>2824594
You been?

>>2824601
Been around it because it's fucking Bosnia why the hell would I go there

>>2824605
You mean surrounding it?

>>2824590 (OP)
Can you elaborate? What is the bad advice that was given to you?
I'm visiting Bosnia next summer
>>2824594
Idiot

>>2824590 (OP)
If I listened to you chuckle fucks I would never leave my home because according to /trv/ every single travel location on the planet is an overrated shithole. I'm glad I'm not as jaded as the average poster here.

>>2824590 (OP)
Cool but how about you elaborate on it a bit?

>>2824590 (OP)
yeah plenty of us give bad advice because it's funny

>>2824640
Very true

>>2824590 (OP)
Let's hear the advice, then? I probably gave advice in that thread, and wondering what actually went wrong.
Apologies if it was me.

>>2824590 (OP)
I'll tell people to go to the most obscure dangerous places, convincing them it's safe and that any contrary statement is just cowardly lies made up by uncultured, untraveled swine. My hope is to get as many of you stabbed or robbed as possible. At the very least I want to make sure that people waste their time in a dirty shithole. Fuck you.

>>2824590 (OP)
I saw a dude in Bosnia finish 20 pints of Heineken yeah i’m not gonna fuck with no Bosnian dude

>>2824605
>why the hell would I go there
same as the rest of the balkans but even cheaper
>inb4 muh muslims like it fucking matters as a tourist

>>2824690
uhh based?
back to it already huh >>2824815

>>2824590 (OP)
What’s the advice you fucking retard

>>2824590 (OP)
I have yet to see 1 post explaining specifically what went wrong.
Must be a troll thread

>>2824590 (OP)
>a website full of passport bros trying to fuck exploited women in mostly SEA countries has bad travel advice
Boy, who would have thought!

>>2824643
Sure.

Usually I like to get out of big cities and I usually just set off and go wherever I feel without knowing much about the place. I thought this time I'd check here and maybe get some gems I'd never think of alone.
They were all
>Mostar! This place is the heckin deal. When you land leave the capital IMMEDIATELY and go there, otherwise you're a fag who doesn't know anything. We are serious travelers who knows stuff. The town is authentic and this is where you must go to get a real experience.

After reading that it would sound like a no brainer. Pic related the great Mostar. These retards make fun of normal people and get in some high Horse about travelling. Little do they know they are the fucking normal, average Joe. Typical place, lined with keyring shops, waiting in queues to take a picture Infront of landmarks (I'm not into that but if I was I definitely wouldn't wait in a factory like with other schnucks to do it).
Most "gems" are the same. Different countries, exact same set up. You've got to just be spontaneous and sometimes even a bit reckless to have a truly great unique experience. Research to a certain extent is a joke, itl have you doing the same think the billion other people who researched are doing

I'm so mad

I'm so mad

>>2824838
Sorry, I didn't check in the thread after a couple hours thinking nobody was interested, read above. Also share your experiences

>>2824815
Erm definitely wasn't that cheap

>>2824690
Kek that's quite funny but you're probably doing people a favour, they aren't courageous or individual enough to seek out interesting things, chances are they'll be fine but have a hell of a different kind of Holliday

>>2824691
They all looked like this, tough motherfuckers. Humble and non confrontational though, I'd rather be around them than white, black, or violent south Americans

>>2824590 (OP)
If you're being recommended a travel destination online, it's already too popular.

>>2824899
I came to this realisation myself. You too are a savant

Also Borek is boring as fuck. I don't think people even think about what they shout about these days, it's all over YouTube

>>2824877
Looks cool to me, though crowded
My plan is 4 nights in Sarajevo (with a day trip) and one night in Mostar.
I'm easily pleased though

>>2824960
That's hell. You either haven't travelled much or just don't know what a Holliday is about. You did say you're easily pleased so maybe it's just that.
The little sausages with the bread is pretty tasty, but go to the right place for it otherwise you'll get crap

>>2824981
>You either haven't travelled much or just don't know what a Holliday is about
Both not true
>>2824981
>You did say you're easily pleased so maybe it's just that
It's this.
I'm not from Europe, so any sort of European architecture is great for me. I've been to Prague twice, I loved it, and its just as crowded as the pic you posted, it's like Disneyland, but I don't care because it's so beautiful.

>>2824899
This has contributed to me deciding against certain trips in favor of others.

>>2824877
Looks like a lively, soulful little town with the perfect balance of history, topography and urban spaces. You climbed the hill, right?
>different countries, exact same set up
Maybe look up from your phone once in a while and start paying attention to your surroundings, then you'd start noticing the thousands of little details that make every human settlement unique (despite being populated by the same species, Homo sapiens). Or else accept that you're not cut out for the traveling life if "I CANT BREEEED!!!!" preoccupies your every waking moment and makes it impossible to focus on or enjoy anything else.

>>2824981
>just don't know what a Holliday is about.
Have you considered that different people have different goals and expectations when on vacation?
>noooo! You can't enjoy things that way!
So cringe

>>2825015
>despite being populated by the same species, Homo sapiens
I like to pretend I'm an old timey anthropologist-explorer studying missing links and so forth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcJgZiQfMKo

whats the point of traveling when you dont know the history of the place you are traveling to and cannot appreciate the details of the environment that reflect it. I wholeheartedly view majority of le ebin travelers as cattle, same as museum visitors.

>>2825000
Ok sorry, I get you. When you're that pumped about something that's so different not much can ruin your experience. I feel sorry for you with the flight prices though hah. I'll never stop being to travel everywhere in Europe for nothing

>>2824590 (OP)
dont listen to anything 4chan says, or rather listen and do the opposite.
For example i know about art/painting enough to realize that /ic/ is filled with loosers giving eachother horrible advices to remain loosers forever.
Think about the people that go to 4chan, what type of a person is that.
The site is sometimes useful to learn about non-mainstream pieces of news or urban situations, but thats about it, not life advices.

>>2824877
>Mostar
I believe what we actually told you was there is a nice bridge and an ottoman style old town. If you did absolutely any research at all on your own you'd realize it's the most visited place in the country right up there with Sarajevo

>>2825228
Fuck you, the thread I was in made out like it was out of the way. I don't do much research you're right, and I'm not ashamed at all. Next time I go away it'll be great because I'm going to go back to exploring off my own initiative

>>2825254
That's not even research. If you punch in "Bosnia" into google you'll get nothing but pictures of the bridge in Mostar. It's literally the one place besides Sarajevo (and maybe Srebrenica for other reasons) that anyone knows. You do more "research" by booking your plane tickets. Fucking hell.
You very much should be ashamed. Being a retard with zero knowledge of the world around you and enjoying it is one thing, but making threads asking for recommendations and then making threads whining about them because you didn't even double check the info in the most effortless way possible is another.

>>2824877
Pretty sure I suggested a trip up/down the Neretva Valley with
>Sarajevo
>Tito's bunker
>Rafting
>Watching 'the Battle of Neretva' and checking out the crashed train set
>Mostar and watching the jumpers, and doing ziplining
>Onwards to either Dubrovnik, Ulcinj, Montenegrin fjords.

Think i recommended a guesthouse along the train route in the middle of nowhere which had a beautiful balcony view, too. Near Mostar.

I mean, there was nothing wrong with that when I did it. I'm not sure wha tyou're expecting? You were the one who suggested Bosnia, lol...

>>2825265
I didn't make the Bosnia Threads, and it was only a 4 day trip, a couple days to doss around in Sarajevo and one day to take a little journey somewhere. Calm down lady.
You know it was dumb to recommend Mostar, and if it's the first thing that comes up after typing Bosnia then even fucking dumber. So stop defending these non entities and your similar way of thinking

>>2825267
Doesn't sound bad but why even put Mostar in there? It's like someone asking about France and you say

> you must go to Paris they have this huge tower, you're going to love it. And the Louvre!

Kek just redundant

I don't know if you were in the thread but also if you guys had just said it was Bosnian Disneyland they would be no problem, I wouldn't have even made this Thread

>>2825269
ye, ziplining in Mostar is an internationally famous thing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyiI96ebv6Y

>>2825272
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. You're not very good at this

>>2825268
Whether it was dumb or not is irrelevant because you'd still be the dumbest party by far. It's taking you more time to bitch and whine now than it would have taken to type "Mostar" into the search bar and check if what they're talking about will actually be to your liking. Do you want some investment recommendations now? I've heard they have plenty you can just dive into on /biz/

>>2824877
Haven’t been. But I know of Sarajevo and Mostar in Bosnia and that’s all. Mostar is plastered everywhere on YouTube should’ve been so obvious.

>>2825275
Don't get on my nerves, you cunt. The people who lost here are retards and that's it

>>2825278
I don't fucking get travel advice from YouTube. I'm not you

Awful thread desu

what kind of idiot would you have to be to uncritically believe anything on 4chan without verifying it elsewhere

>>2825330
I actually deemed 4chan pretty reliable

>>2825341
NTA but the problem is on any topic if it gets debated it will end up having roughly half the people telling you the answer is X and half saying not X. How often have I read a thread and realized at the end I was no closer to know the answer than when I started.

>>2824877
imagine being filtered by Mostar, fucking lmao

>>2825463
It's easy to tell by the writing styles. If anybody gives off vibes of being an autistic spastic, or some incel neet, then all its opinions are utterly worthless.

>>2826193
i wont listen to you then

>>2826181
Imagine never going to Mostar but taking about things like you know kek. Imagine barely travelling at all and sit at home writing bucket lists

>>2825341
cool anon. want to see a recipe for how to make crystals from common household chemicals?

>>2826244
I want to see you kys live on cam instead

>>2826193
AI writes pretty well but it's wrong half the time.

>>2825191
People visit museums to learn about the history of the place they are traveling to, duh
>>2825017
Then quitcherbitchin about how overtouristed and inauthentic your little "holliday" destination is.

>>2826389
Most museums aren't about history retard

>>2826362
>AI writes pretty well
It writes technically correct english like an overeducated third worlder that has no direct knowledge or experience with what it's blabbering about, aka Actually Indian

>>2826514
That's why you shouldn't look at the way someone writes. Correct grammar doesn't mean they know anything.

I just do the opposite of what 4chan says. It works every time.

>>2826389
>People visit museums to learn
they learn nothing, they drift past exhibits, not even bothering to read the plaque (that often wont tell practically anything anyway), just because they think that is expected behavior, just to say they've been there, same as with traveling itself.
I've been like this myself when i was a teen, now i realize the volume of prior knowledge (and more importantly curiosity) you need to appreciate anything that might be found in a historic museum.

>>2826599
This. I find museums generally disappointing. There's way too much content with very little ability to interact with it.
i only go to museums where there's an experience element, or if I'm quite clued up on the area and want to deep dive.

The British Museum - for example - needs brekaing up. It's a fucking overpacked warehouse, which needs presenting in a faaaaaaar better way to justify its holdings.

>>2826600
i find virtual tours on youtube (done by historians or anyone who knows what they are talking about) much more insightful than actually visiting the thing.

>>2826605
good ones in english you need to dig for it seems
390 views https://youtu.be/JdyBZvX-b3s?si=blUztj1oMpX66F4Q

>>2826600
In which way?

>>2826620
Let's take the Egypt section. I want to be able to walk in and experience the geogrphy and climate 10,000 years ago. I want to see pictures, exhibits, movies, etc which demonstrate the difference in climate, with reference to the cave paintings in Gebel Uweinat, etc.

I then want to see, feel, experience the life on the Saharan Savannah, and see evidence of said life, and learn about the reasons for the migration to the Nile.

This backstory, then would allow me to appreciate any exhibits from the Old Kingdom, the people, the culture at the time, how revolutionary it was, especially in comparison to the rest of the world (and Britain) at the time.

,etc, etc, etc. Currently you just walk in a room and read badly labelled shit, don't feel the context around any of the exhibits, etc.

London is amazingly placed to be a truly global city, with museums dedicated to different regions and histories. A museum dedicated to Egyptian history would be great somewhere further down the Thames, replicating the Nile Delta. Surround the area with Egyptian cafes, and cultural centres, etc.

>>2826621
That sounds way more productive and enjoyable. And I'd also say going as far as to creating new museums separate a lot of subjects not stopping at Egypt. Especially with the British museum you're over stimulated but still under educated.

I've left museums many times feeling frazzled though because it still being in awe

>>2826634
I've been to some museums in China and they utterly btfo things in Europe. They're trying to create multi-sensory experiences with practical activities baked in.

They haven't quite hit perfection, but it was a refreshing change.

Is there any rankings of museums which aren't just normie shit getting upvooted?

>>2826636
That's unexpected, usually Chinese people, well east Asian people in general other than Japanese, don't give a fuck about anything other than making money

>>2826639
pff, if you knew anything about china you would know that they are spending more on archeology than any other nation and that they surpassed everyone in R&D year ago.

>>2826643
>more on archeology than any other nation
probably more than all the other nations combined even

>>2826643
I don't doubt it I'm just surprised. I never get any sentimental tendencies from them, thoughtfulness, care about their surroundings or value in sacred things.
I guess it's not average members of the population creating these things, the minority who are putting the work in really are good'ns. That's all that matters, because I love China :)

>>2826646
their archeology is party driven, they always make conclusions that china numba one out of any of their discoveries, but they still provide the numbers and real scientists can decide for themselves what they actually mean.

>>2824590 (OP)
>Do not listen to people here who think of themselves as travel experts.
what did you expect, newfag?

it literally was like this since the dawn of /trv/

you can get incredible good tips here
and find hidden / obscure spots you'd otherwise never consider
BUT always double check and take secondary sources before deciding

it's that easy

>>2824690
Based

>>2824590 (OP)
>never explains the faulty advice in detail
You should be jailed and fined for high faggotry

Go fuck yourself

OP is possibly the biggest faggot on /trv/

>>2828089
/thread

>>2824640
>every single travel location on the planet is an overrated shithole
Yes. We tried to warn you, but you wouldn't listen.

>>2828178
Posting after /thread. Tsk tsk.

>>2825031
>I like to pretend I'm an old timey anthropologist-explorer
I sometimes go back in time IN MY MIND and I think Bourdain did the same thing. He makes a lot of references to beatnik or wealthy british authors who lived in an expat city while writing such and such as he traveled.

I like to reminisce what it might have been like to big game fish during the time of Hemingway in Key West/Cuba. I like to think about being in the time of the Aztecs as I ascend the dangerous steep and narrow steps of the Sun pyramid, or imagine what the daily life was like during the viking settlement time in AD 900 in say Iceland, or what the heck it looked on a market day in Pompeii. There are still beautiful tiles on the ground from Roman tiles when you visit some ruins. I usually try to have a good book on my kindle that features where I currently am in the world, not just guidebooks.

You need to go to Kotor, brah.

>>2830544
Best part of Bosnia.

>>2824590 (OP)
i never take advice from anyone on things that are subjective. Granted most people in here prob want the Bald and Bankrupt type experience (maybe? idunno.) but I hate most of the destinations he's been including both the ones ive already been to and ones i have no desire to go to. For example, I have no fucking desire to go to Thailand it sounds like hell to me but half of u chuds love ladyboys so why would i take advice from you.

TLDR do your own DD and think about how you want to spend your time. Some ppl ded azz enjoy sitting in a resort/hotel all day.

>>2824981
You can't even spell holiday faggot

>>2832995
You can't even spell "retarded giganormie mental patient"

>>2824690
Traveling nowadays is for sadomasochists anyway
Every foreign place is specialized to scam you in the most efficient way possible

>>2833108
Every industry has been game-maxxxed by mba-bros and get-rich-quick youtube heroes. /trv/ isn't any different.

At least you get to see new ways of being scammed, as opposed to the tired old schemes at home.

>>2833108
Only retarded normies fall for scams

>ask some questions here
>limp dicked gringos talking about owning a home in the mainland
>talking about how it's good
>just want to go change things up you know?
>go to PH, no one even fucking lifts an eyebrow at me
>have shit time just like home but worse no spot is the "good" spot even Cebu
>had a week planned in Denver but it's totally sovlless (just wanted to see snow)
>worst food of my fucking life, no culture, and there wasn't even snow
>best part was setting some mexicans straight at a bar
>return back home to rico' and chill
>woo some white prize women to fuck them in spite of all the limp dicked white men who are walking beta males who give shit advice

Man this place is full of white gringos who think mayo is spicy and that mcdonalds or walmart is culture, they got no family or values just NPC. Every time I see their fat fucking faces I chuckle to myself because I know I could make any girl wet with my native tongue and have the bitch ass white man clap as I do it. Also your all food sucks dick, come down here and try some real sovl food not that trash you guys eat.

PEACE

>>2824877
looks fucking awful. You might as well have went to a disney world theme park and called it a day.

>>2824877
So you didn't
>go into Croatian hoods and see the flags, play pool in ultranationalist bars
>do some ziplining
>watch people jump off the bridge, or volunteer yourself
>enjoy the bus journey up mad cliffs up from Split
>chill in Muslim cafes with turkish coffee people watching
>look at the bulletholes and walk the old frontline
?

>>2826508
Not once have I gone to a museum that wasn't dedicated to explaining the history of the antiquities on display. But go ahead, go to the wax museum of basketball heroes if that's your thing.

>>2826646
The cold-eyed lack of delusional beliefs and mindsets is refreshing after all the neuroticism and cognitive dissonance of Christian America. As a lizard person myself, I can do okay around other lizard people.