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Anonymous No.2828003 [Report] >>2828198 >>2828466 >>2828926 >>2828962 >>2829070 >>2830203
PATAGONIA - am I being scammed?
As part of this educational module I have the option to do a Patagonia trip from Buenos Aires (flight NOT included) and something doesn't feel right.

They want $2295 USD for a (southern-hemisphere) summer camping trip that starts in san martin de los Andes, then to Auquinco, rincon de los pinos, portezuelo, Achen niyeu volcano & Laguna Vierde. 5 nights but we would mostly be sleeping in tents

My reservations:
> price tag: seems expensive, esp. when you convert it to Canadian peso . I did an entire 2 week Japan trip recently for basically 2295 USD including some premium experiences, paying for shinkansen, etc. they want this for 4 nights camping in a tent and 1 night in a budget hotel. Some of the justification is ridiculous overhead -> support vehicle, horse-drawn luggage transport, on-trip doctor. To this 2295 USD also have to add on flight from Buenos Aires to San Martin.
> location: seems like a shithole. Aren't the beautiful parts of Patagonia further down south ?

Would appreciate some insight from Argentinian anons or anyone who's visited on both price and location, sooner rather than later as I need to make a decision soon
Anonymous No.2828111 [Report]
Bumping
Anonymous No.2828193 [Report] >>2828240 >>2828441
i didnt read that
Anonymous No.2828198 [Report] >>2828240
>>2828003 (OP)
Doesn't seem expensive to me. THat's what you should expect to pay. The only question is whether you want to go to those locations specifically. If not, find another tour package. All sites have their own pluses, but southern patagonia is obviously going to be cold the further you go down.
Anonymous No.2828240 [Report] >>2828246
>>2828198
>The only question is whether you want to go to those locations specifically
well that's my question. If I am paying thousands of dollars I want to see the best part of Patagonia. What do you think - where would you go for a Patagonia trip

>>2828193
what is best place to visit in Patagonia and is $2300 USD for 5 nights camping in a tent near San martin de los andes a good idea

for context I'm trying to save money, so I'd only go here if there was something truly impressive to see. if you look at OP pic it looks like appalachia, nothing impressive
Anonymous No.2828246 [Report] >>2828408 >>2828484 >>2830190
>>2828240
I would go to Chile. I prefer the Chile side.
Anonymous No.2828408 [Report] >>2828442 >>2828483
>>2828246
thanks for your input. I was doing some reading and Bariloche is basically the northernmost Patagonian area worth seeing ...
san martin de los andes is even further north than that! and not as impressive, so I think the decision is to not go with this tour company.
Better to do a wholesale visit to the best most stunning sights of the region if I'm going to be spending thousands of dollars
Anonymous No.2828441 [Report]
>>2828193
Same!
Anonymous No.2828442 [Report] >>2828508
>>2828408
Bariloche is a nice little town but the nature isn't terribly impressive
Anonymous No.2828461 [Report] >>2828508
what is going on in this thread? Why would you pay $2300 for random itinerary when you can literally do the O trek for less than that?

what i would do: fly to El Calafate, see the glacier, one day. done. bus to El Chalten, do the best day hikes while staying somewhere in town. then back to el chalten. either fly back to buenos aires from there or fly somewhere else.
Anonymous No.2828462 [Report]
Just do it yourself and save a ton of money.
Anonymous No.2828466 [Report] >>2828508
>>2828003 (OP)
Don't listen to the other anons, you are absolutely getting ripped off with those prices.
Patagonia is overrated anyways, come to Jujuy instead.
Anonymous No.2828483 [Report]
>>2828408
Five nights is too short, Mr. "Time Is Money"
Anonymous No.2828484 [Report]
>>2828246
Argentina used to be much cheaper, but with their out of control inflation continuing, prices for tourists have soared. You're tax cattle now.
Anonymous No.2828508 [Report]
>>2828461
yeah my thoughts exactly. I am surprised this even exists at the price level offered - it must be for gullible but very wealthy international students from like the USA or China. camping is literally free in Canada

>>2828442
> nature isn't terribly impressive
it looks like the best parts of Patagonia are in Chile or just further south in general - them selling san martin de los andes as the "Patagonia experience" is really not it.

>>2828466
> Jujuy
curious, but does it have marble caves?
Anonymous No.2828926 [Report] >>2829060
>>2828003 (OP)
Argie here living abroad. That is a pretty expensive package, but to be fair, Argentina is fucked and it's gotten super expensive lately. You're not getting fucked personally, it's just that anybody going to Patagonia is getting fucked in general. I've done week-long ski trips Austria, lodging, ski pass, all included, for much less than that fucking price.
Anonymous No.2828962 [Report] >>2829060
>>2828003 (OP)
>flight NOT included
it's basically just a trip to Neuquén. you could probably arrange it yourself, fly in and just rent a car and there's probably a local outfitter who will either rent you gear or go with you as a guide. argentina is more expensive these days but that's nearly $500/day for a guided camping trip. i would pay that much only if we're talking 4-star accomodations in san martin de los Andes
Anonymous No.2829060 [Report] >>2829063
>>2828926
>>2828962
>it's gotten super expensive lately
stop scaring me even if I don't go to Patagonia I'm still going to be in Buenos Aires for two weeks
Anonymous No.2829063 [Report] >>2829066
>>2829060
Why? In summer? BA is a sweltering shithole in summer
Anonymous No.2829066 [Report]
>>2829063
can't be worse than the Japan August heat can it?
Anonymous No.2829070 [Report] >>2829071
>>2828003 (OP)
>$575 a night to sleep in a tent in a third world country
>Guys, am I being ripped off?
Anonymous No.2829071 [Report] >>2829073 >>2829097 >>2829736
>>2829070
it's part of an optional educational course with other MBA students for reference, not like I'm picking a random guided trip with doctors and horses to carry luggage out of the blue
Anonymous No.2829073 [Report] >>2829097
>>2829071
>MBA
The irony
Anonymous No.2829075 [Report] >>2829076 >>2829742
ok I think I will close off this thread as I've found out what I wanted to know and we have passive aggressive green texters now
Anonymous No.2829076 [Report]
>>2829075
>I will close off this thread
Let us know how to do it when you find out
Anonymous No.2829097 [Report]
>>2829071
>part of an optional educational course with other MBA students
>>2829073
this. you probably end up failing the course if you take this deal
Anonymous No.2829736 [Report] >>2829742 >>2829757
>>2829071
Then it's not so expensive after all. You are not paying for scenery. It's more like "tuition." Go ahead and enjoy yourself, do some networking and it will probably pay off with millions of dollars more earnings potential in the future.
Anonymous No.2829742 [Report] >>2829745
>>2829736
EXCUSE ME! THE THREAD IS CLOSED!
>>2829075
Anonymous No.2829745 [Report] >>2829748
>>2829742
It's closed when we say it is. You better sign up for that trip before it's too late.
Anonymous No.2829748 [Report]
>>2829745
Get a life bud
Anonymous No.2829757 [Report] >>2829763
>>2829736
>do some networking and it will probably pay off with millions of dollars more earnings potential in the future.
all part of the MBA scam
Anonymous No.2829763 [Report] >>2829811
>>2829757
It's not a "scam" you son of a single mother alcoholic lesbian. It's a completely optional trip that I can absolutely afford. Regardless, the thread is closed so ta ta.
Anonymous No.2829811 [Report] >>2829820
>>2829763
If you don't do it, you will so regret it. All those other MBA guys are one day going to be sitting around on Wall Street talking about that big trip in Argentina THAT YOU MISSED OUT ON, and they will not even invite you to their confabs and shit in the future. And you will NOT meet that beautiful Turkish princess or whatever and bang her pussy sore, just because you decided to be a cheapskate.
Anonymous No.2829820 [Report] >>2829824
>>2829811
that's not OP I am OP.
good to hear another perspective but it's like $3000 Canadian pesos and for context this is an exchange program so none of the MBA bros are coming to argentina with me, it's basically solo travelling.
As it stands there is an alternative course to take in Buenos Aires at the same time which I think would serve the same purpose - meeting people etc, but for a lot cheaper
Anonymous No.2829824 [Report]
>>2829820
>Canadian pesos
shouldn't that be Candian rupees?
Anonymous No.2830190 [Report] >>2830389 >>2831052
>>2828246
lol, it's not just you. The world and international celebrities (generally with more demanding tastes than the average person) prefer Patagonia in Chile
Anonymous No.2830203 [Report] >>2830389 >>2831052
>>2828003 (OP)
I don't know why you get nervous and adopt a passively defensive attitude towards Chile, that is, you don't mention the world-famous Patagonia; you implicitly exclude Chileans from the opinions, and you get upset because an anon user liked Chilean Patagonia more than Argentine Patagonia... we won't say that you're an Argentine bait... But... open your heart, don't resist. Not only do we have many lakes (top images), but we also have beautiful green Mediterranean and temperate ocean coasts that are truly wild and pristine (bottom images). The experience and enjoyment are guaranteed.


Think of us as Italy, Norway, Greece or Japan. You'll never have to travel long, boring distances between the coast and the mountains, only to be disappointed later...ah, the Patagonian inland valleys (between the mountains and the ocean coast) are objectively beautiful.
Anonymous No.2830389 [Report] >>2831033
>>2830190
>>2830203
samefag
Anonymous No.2831033 [Report]
>>2830389
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Anonymous No.2831052 [Report] >>2834182
>>2830190
>>2830203
The Chilean tourism board found the thread
Anonymous No.2834182 [Report]
>>2831052
We might be doing well and all but we're still Latin america, of course we will promote the country when we can.
Can a nigga borrow a bit of representation?