Thread 211359313

This is a pale human in a space suit.

>>211359313 (OP)
it is, you biomechanical faggots need to rope

he put his dig in a facehugger and his legs were never the same.

no it is some grimdark shit 12 year olds find cool because space suit looks like a skeleton. do we have summer holidays already?

>>211359313 (OP)
easy son, it's just a drawing

>>211359313 (OP)
This is probably older than your parents

>>211359313 (OP)
Why was he locked inside the vault and in a state of coma toast?

How did he lock the vault?
What was his intention to enter the vault?
What was their goal of stockpilling the black goo?
Where did the black goo originate from?
Without the engenering/contruction by that android what was the original state of the black goo amd what harm could it do?
Why was fhe black goo important?
If these engeneers were so advanced why did everything look so Russian and out dated?

>>211359324
>IT WAS ALWAYS STUPID AND FANS OF THE CLASSIC FILM AINT REAL FANS!

They mostly come at night, mostly..

>>211359569
Yeah, cause thats totally an albino human giant

>>211359383
Thats fucking funny since David, an android of earth origin, being the creator of the xenomorphs in Alien and Aliens is like fanfiction written by a 12 year old

Aliens>Alien

>>211359679
The Xenomorphs in AvP literally existed during ancient civilization times, before humans achieved space travel Predators were fighting them. David much further in the future could not therefore have created them.
Prometheus conflicts with what little lore they already established

>>211359313 (OP)
At least we still have the Chozo

>>211359313 (OP)
Yes.

you guys don't know half of it

>>211359313 (OP)
The idea of it being a suit was something floated around since the 80s. It was really surprising to see Ridley revive it for Prometheus actually. It's not a bad idea that they could change their plans towards biotechnology and either merge themselves with the ships or start growing lifeforms that only live to pilot the ship.

Gonna be honest, no idea for the space jockey was gonna work well on the big screen. They're all sort of too silly for the popcorn audience that hardly cares about what they're watching. They'd be confused about the telepathic elephant men too

Growing up is realizing that every director you liked when you were young is actually a hack that got incredibly lucky who was dragged into success by the hordes of nameless and faceless industry artists and technicians at the time who simply no longer exist to save Hollywood films.

It is a faggot sucking his own dick in a suit that chokes him the more he sucks.

>>211359313 (OP)
>Dallas: Looks like he's growing out of the chair.
I like how they just ignored that line of dialogue entirely.

>>211362775
And that he's been there for thousands of years and is fossilized, not just crashed ten minutes ago

I always liked the idea that the space jockey was an unrelated species and it was just performing piloting/scientific duties. I hate the idea of it being used for weapons or desiring to destroy humans thousands of years ago, etc. That's always the realm of shitty writers

>>211359313 (OP)
My gooning chair

Nah. This isn't cannon.

>>211359569
haha, that's the one where the next page has a panel that goes *FAPPPP* & it looks like they're covered in grey cum (it's ash)

>>211359569
that is even worse then prometheus hot take. ITS NOT A BIPEDAL HUMANOID FFS REEEEEEE

>>211364761
What do you not understand about biotechnology and being able to merge with different things? Not literally every single jockey needs to be stuck to a space ship.

>>211359383
Shut up faggots
H.R.Giger be praised
>>211359313 (OP)

>>211359893
So you like A vP now? AvP wasnt ment as canon, nice damage control and after thought
It was equally shitty of an idea

>>211362570
Thats why you dont film them then

>>211359313 (OP)
>Its a man in a suit
>Noooo stop explaining things
>It's a biomechanical man/weapon
>Noooo stop explaining things
You people re insufferable

>>211362651
That's quite literally the job of a director
Not different from any industry

>>211366074
>It's an unknowable alien creature from the other side of the galaxy! Scary!
>ACTUALLY it's humanity's ancestor and creator that lives just next door and comes here all the time. It's not even alien!
Yeah, not sure why anyone would have a problem with that at all

>>211359679
>being the creator of the xenomorphs in Alien and Aliens

He isn't you fucking idiot. Didn't you understand black good evolves into aliens utimately no matter what it infects? Sometimes it just takes a longer evolutionary path

>>211366074
>The ALIENS were actually made by a ROBOT GUY FROM EARTH

>>211359313 (OP)
I like how the aliens just seemingly wipe out races of super advanced species and none of them ever think to do anything about it like maybe warn people hey don't try and use this as a weapon don't go near these things

>>211359313 (OP)
Thank Cameron, it was him who divorced Giger from the franchise.

this is such a minor part of the film, holy shit.

>>211367060
Minor? You think them discovering the first alien lifeform in all of history is minor? It was a huge moment and they were in awe. Would have been even bigger if Kane hadn't gotten contaminated.

>>211359598
RLM fag
>>211359679
>>211366611
why do people think this? there's a fucking xeno mural in the movie
>>211366439
justifiable grievane, anon. minimized the space jokey

>>211367060
gen z is lost

>>211367296
>discovering the first alien lifeform in all of history
Is it? By Aliens they seem to have run into a lot of them.

>>211367640
It is. That's why they're all so impressed, tip toeing around it, and why the company sent a secret agent to ensure the unknown signal is investigated and any alien life brought back. In Aliens, they still haven't found anything, which is why literally EVERYONE scoffs at Ripley and mocks her. They've been out in space going to various planets and never found shit. So her saying she actually found aliens and they killed her crew is ridiculous. They don't even know what the word xenomorph means, which just means alien form.

everything after the original 2 movies is Not Canon.

>>211367640
>>211367978
What about the Arcturians?

>>211366486
>HURR, DAVID EVOLVING THE ALIEN DONT MAKE TO WHAT IT IS IN ALIEN!!!
Kil lyourself, sir

>>211359893
Ridley Scott has stated AvP isnt canon
Go get the rope, you know what to do

>>211368503
Nothing after Alien is canon.

>>211368456
That's the name for people that live on a colony. It's literally making fun of troops in vietnam that go to thailand and fuck ladyboys but don't care since they look feminine

>>211368503
Ridley doesn't determine canon and never did. He didn't make the series popular and never had control over it. Stomping in decades later, flipping the table, and demanding the reigns doesn't change that.

>>211368572
I don't think so. The marines also ask if it's going to be a 'bug hunt' implying some sort of easy job. Hell their logo implies they go around killing alien life.

>>211363468
This

its so prevalent in media too, a good example is Star Wars everything fucking revolves around the skywalkers

>>211368664
Bug hunt means it's a waste of time. They expect to find nothing as usual and just another waste of time. Which is why they joke it will just be dumb colonists with broken equipment and they will rescue their daughters from their virignity. Jesus, try to pay attention because they say all of this explicitly. They literally say they don't believe Ripley's bullshit alien story and make fun of her the entire time.

>>211368164
>>211368527
Based knowers.

>>211368759
They make fun of her encountering some deadly creature not for encountering life at all.

>>211368813
this anon is correct, they're mocking the idea of an apex killing machine, they think that ridley is exaggerating the deadliness of the alien and believe that they will make quick work of it with all their superior fire power.

The space jockey is like 9 feet tall in Alien

>>211359313 (OP)
yes.

>>211369245
>and believe that they will make quick work of it with all their superior fire power.
They were right. The Aliens are incredibly weak, and can only really do anything by either ambushing unarmed individuals, or by taking absurd losses, even against small, isolated groups of trash-tier marines, despite how hard it is for the aliens to reproduce.

>>211359313 (OP)
He was supposed to be the last engineer and got infected a face hugger, but they scrapped it for Prometheus
We would have known if we had gotten the third movie, but I’m hopeful Romulus will finally close this plot thread.

>>211359598
Prmotheshit is not canon and it's made without any care for what makes sense

>>211368503
Ridley has no saying in what is or isn't canon.

>>211365452
As a bombastic action flick is great. It's not canon.
But it's still billions of times better than ridleyshit

>>211366074
Then stop pissing an shitting on the lore and the mystery.
It's that simple.
keep your explanation vomit for things you made.

>>211368664
Hunting small game aliens is not the same as encountering an intelligent life form dead inside his own parasitic life form carrying spaceship, so what the miners encountered in the first Alien movie is way above the small fry lifeforms humanity had dealt with beforehand. Also, in universe 57 years passed between Alien and Aliens, enough time to discover inhabited planets, which none of you has addressed.

>>211363468
It made humans the center of everythign again, when the original premise is that the universe is a dark unmapped piece of shit and it's only a matter of vastness that prevents you from spepping of something terrifying.
It made the universe smaller, known and lame

>>211366665
The og movie what they mistake for an sos was later called "more like a warning"

>>211367060
It IS the film.
It sets up everything. It sets up the unknown alienness of the the thing.

>>211371527
He wasn't supposed to be anything.
Engineer aren't canon and the giant fossilized guy is a mystery

>>211368600
>He didn't make the series popular
Uhh he literally created it, I think he has more of a say than anyone else

>>211373240
He didn't do shit. And even if he did (he didn't) the author doesn't matter, it's the piece of art that dictates everything

>>211359313 (OP)
Engineers really are our ancestors

>>211372774
>Engineer aren't canon
*blocks your path*

>>211373340
He directed the first movie without which there would be no canon. I’ll take his word over some basement dwellers who’s achieved nothing.

>>211371504
They still reproduce faster than humans, and they grow faster than humans train to be marines.

Man, Tucker sure knows how to find them.

>>211368572
The canon Alien RPG has them as an Engineer creations. Pic related

>>211359893
https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2020/10/12/defining-canon-in-an-alien-world/

Alien, Predator and AvP are separate franchises .

>>211374104
Yes, and that's made for stupid children decades after the fact. In the movie's canon, when it was made and intended, they're human colonists.

>>211373929
They only reproduce faster in terms of time. But they're inherently limited by the number of victims they can get their hands on, and their victims need to stay alive. Even then, they can only produce one alien for every victim, and on top of that, they need a queen to make eggs.
Given these limitations, and the fact that they're creatures that have no ranged attacks and can be killed with basic guns, they're really fucking weak, at least as a biological weapon.

>>211373911
he didn't write it, didn't imagine it, didn't decide what was happeneing, had no saying about character design or plot, had literally no creative input beyond being the director's eye

>>211373859
>contradicts actual canon movies
yawn, Alien has no prequels

>>211359569
>but first, we must disrobe
>completely
Some real phaggy shit there.

>>211375882
What does it contradict?

>>211375995
There are no engineers
There is no black goo
The eentire life cycle of the xeno, which was defined in 1&2

>>211376173
>it contradicts my headcanon

>>211376259
It contradicts the orignal movie. Yours is head canon

>>211376336
Surely you know better than the guy who directed both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRfx05qKVxg

I yell out KINO in PIE every time I watch this scene

>>211376427
Yeah, no doubt. As anyone with minimal critical thinking.
The story is the authority. If you can't see how A does/don't contradict B, then it'you the exceptional one (in a negative way)

Author means nothing. And he wasn't even the author. O'Bannon was

>>211376556
The only story that's being contradicted is the one you made up in your head.

>>211359313 (OP)
PRÖÖÖH

>>211376687
Is there still cold finnbro?

>>211376709
Not anymore

It'll all be explained in the next AvP movie bros

>>211359313 (OP)
No. Prometheus is idiotic and not canon.
>>211363468
Yeah, trying to try every event together is what every failing franchise tries to do, like how they made Jason Bourne's father the reason behind the CIA program that created him.

>>211376687
She kinda cute

>>211375873
You’re retarded. He could veto anything he wanted to

>>211359313 (OP)
Makes sense. Imagine yourself as an alien people who have never encountered humans before. Your people detect a spacecraft in orbit. You launch a rudimentary craft up to it. You're crawling around on the outside, trying to understand this strange craft when out from behind it pic related comes flying at you. You'd probably shit bricks

>>211376661
So you haven't seen Alien, got it.
lmao
It' been around for 46 years, watch it someday. It's really good, like the shit they make now. It'a also has one sequel made few years later
So good that it will cure even your butthurt

>>211377256
the only 2 inputs he tried to have were:
- xeno schould walk like the exorcist girl
- xeno should record ripley's message after expelling her into the void
and both times the actual people behind the movie gave him the "stfu and go to bed, Ridley"

>>211377479
>xeno should record ripley's message after expelling her into the void
Ridley loves these stupid nonsensical twists. It's why he wanted to change Deckard to suddenly be a replicant at the end of Blade Runner too. All for people to suddenly gasp "whoa I didn't see that coming" then move on. A coherent lasting story be damned.

>>211377444
It's you who's butthurt though, Prometheus came out a decade ago.

>>211372748
>It sets up the unknown alienness of the the thing.

The dude is a space trucker. His cargo is a bioweapon. There is nothing alien about it, it's actually quite basic.

>>211377889
Yes, and that's many decades after the original movie was popular and had an established story which follow-on properties built upon. Ridley tried to retcon it decades later, but his idea was stupid and rejected.

>>211377889
>goalpost moving
And it was bad and everyone rejected it.
Why are you defending it?

>>211377939
>revisionist shit
kek

>>211378129
>>211378148
Romulus confirmed it's canon, deal with it.

>>211378437
>it's confirmed as canon by people who don't get to decide who just happen to have bought a dead IP
kek
you are not very good at this, uh?

>Create goo that wipes out all life on a planet because... uhhh JUST CREATE IT
>Oh my god!! the ultimate life form!! a xenomorph penis creature that violently slaughters everything around it
>It's perfect because... UHHH because it has acid blood!
The alien franchise is the biggest piece of dogshit to ever exist, there is no deeper meaning to any of this, just a retarded alien horror/action franchise that pretends to be deeper than it actually is for midwits

>>211359313 (OP)
SPACE JOCKEY

>>211362651
>the hordes of nameless and faceless industry artists and technicians at the time who simply no longer exist
What happened to them?

>>211378615
You don't get to decide now but seeing how you think you know better than the IP's creators despite being a casual with little knowledge Disney might be interested in hiring you.

>>211367296
Blue guys have too short hands in comparison to this.

>>211380692
The engineers biomodified a member of their species to merge with the ship. This merged their lower body into the pilot console and elongated their arms/hands.

>>211380088
Die out
https://derpibooru.org/2217720

>>211380088
kys

>>211364191

>Gooning chair condensing my AI prompts and porn site bookmarks into that telescope thing for me to look at, while the cables and pumps in the base of the chair are connected to my dick, balls and prostate, for maximum stimulation

>>211359736
Billy Paxton makes the second one fun

>>211380088
Die out
https://derpibooru.org/2217720

>>211359313 (OP)
no it's not the thing is melded to the chair as described in the first film. the space jockey is like pilot in farscape except 10x more horrific they totally ruined it with the prequels, absolute disaster

>>211359313 (OP)
why didnt ridley go with the biomechanical elephant man? that would be cool

>>211368527
You mean alien3 it was the perfect end to the franchise

strange how they went exploring and didnt take a single picture of the eggs, the jockey, the dead bodies, or anything.

they were all into it, a coverup

>>211374104
this is fake i knew it was fake as soon as it said gender fluid, thats a fairly recent lexicon so no way aliens would be using it in 198 fucking 2

>>211384553
When talking about the third movie he implied the Space Jockey is not an Engineer so maybe he wanted to but it seems that's canceled.

>>211362651
Actually growing up is realizing that what you think is being a hack is actually supreme intuition and skill.

>>211384667
They recorded it all on their suit video. But remember that cameras were big and bulky. The best part about Alien was the shitty, bulky technology. Miniaturized capable technology pretty much destroys the whole thing since they'd have easy communication, tracking, drones, and video cameras everywhere.

>>211359313 (OP)
It's not a space suit that's his goon cocoon.

I wish Empty Man would have stayed in Bhutan. This part nailed that feeling of watching Alien for the first time.

>>211368769
Ironically enough it’s Ridley’s obsession with shoving Gnosticism into everything that’s ruining his earlier work.

>>211359313 (OP)
Most writers are bad at their job

>>211384676
It's from the 2019 RPG, and is considered canon until a movie or TV show says otherwise.

>>211359598
All of those are answered. He was in cryosleep. The ship was supposed to go to earth to destroy humans but suffered an outbreak. His shipmates died before it ever took off. The black goo was a bioweapon meant to be used to kill humans. The black goo mutates you into a zombie, and makes you a progenitor of xenomorph style stuff. David just tweaked the formula so that it made the xenomorphs we all know.

>>211359313 (OP)
genuinely don't give a fuck

the mystery is with the ayylmaos, not elephant cockpit man

>>211367307
>xeno mural
It was confirmed to be a Deacon. Ridley clearly edited Covenant's script to imply that David created the classic Xeno, he even said as much in interviews

Why do you never see aliens in space suits? Like, actual aliens, not just blue humanoids. Why do they never need suits, or any type of protection in general? They're always just perfect and they've adapted perfectly not only to their environment but every other environment they find themselves in.
Piss off.

>>211386342
They've always been biomechanical. That was the whole Geiger motif.

>>211386342
Watch Independence Day

>>211387064
Oh I wasn't talking about Transformers, I just think it's a funny picture, and somewhat related. That being said, what the fuck does being "biomechanical" have to do with anything? Do you think cars designed for Earth would function on Mars?

>>211387777
I wasn't talking about transformers, retard.

Geiger created the art that made the entire alien franchise possible, along with God knows how many other spin-offs which used his aesthetic. The entire alien movie was based off of a few drawings and paintings by Geiger.


He described his artwork as biomechanical. Get good.

>>211387248
They only wear the suits because they're natural midgets. It's functionally just armor, with no discernible biological function. With or without it, they can (conveniently) survive within Earth's atmosphere, withstand its gravity, and they breathe oxygen. And they've traveled to fifty-gorillion planets prior to 1996. So every planet is just Earth, or the aliums are somehow a perfect organism.
...or Independence Day is the gayest movie ever made.

>>211359313 (OP)
CHICKEN JOCKEY

>>211387822
Damn brother, chill out.
I don't even know what you're arguing about at this point. They're biomechanical, great. So what?
Semi-related, but who even gives a fuck about Alien as a franchise? It's one fucking movie followed by a thousand shitshows, just like every horror and/or science-fiction franchise. Christ, even Evil Dead has gone down the shitter.

>>211386087
How did the outbreak stop?

What a weak way to kill earth. You would think that they would have had far more advanced weaponry

The ones in the fault got killed by the goo? Ehere are their mutated bodies?

What a dumb and silly team they send to handle that mission. The fuckup of all fuckups

How did they stumble on the goo?

>I got more questions but can't send them out right now. Please hurry and awnser bfore the thread gets archived

>>211388224
>I don't even know what you're arguing about at this point.
Because your attention is as long as your xeno-dick

>>211386087
The xenomorphs were on the murals in Prometheus and predate David

My head canon (I mean Romulus implied some of this anyway):
>Black goo is derived from alien eggs like super stem cells.
>Aliens can adapt to pretty much any environment/any host which makes them such a surviviable organism.
>The Engineers use their finding to better improve their society but it grows stagnant.
>The universe is largely dead with ancient societies mostly having died off.
>Engineers try to revive life.
>Consider Earth a failed experiment.
>Plan to destroy it but get killed themselves.

>>211389246
No, the Deacon was. David modified it and made the black xenomorph.

>Look on my works ye mighty and despair.
Asking seriously, what did you think when David said this in Covenant? What did it convey to you about what was happening in the movie?

>>211389594
>black
Correction, you capitalize the "b" in Black.

People keep saying that one droid made the xenomorphs when in prometheus you have xenomorphs in murals inside the engineer ship

>>211368503
Fortunately, Ridley Scott is not Dan O'Bannon, and thus has no say on whether AvP is canon or not to the Franchise.

>>211390399
Those are Deacon murals

>>211386087
Honestly the original script for Prometheus is great
>Engineers use the Blood of their God, the Deacon, to create and alter life
>Eventually run out of blood and need a new source
>Make Artificial Blood
>Artificial Blood can only make monsters
>Through Shenanigans, Eventually a Monster created by the Artificial Blood impregnates the Engineer and a New Deacon is made in the process
It's way better than the half-baked shit we got.

>>211391089
That doesn't answer some of the most pressing questions:
>Why did Prometheus steal the goo and bring life to the Humans? Were they trying to kill the Humans because he had done that? What did they do to Prometheus' friends?
>why did he chimp out and attack David and Weyland?
It's stupid and hypocritical if it's just because past humans were violent. And really, REALLY dumb if it's because he's a robot. The damn engineer is amazed that they have colored wind chimes and books. But not amazed at perfect androids and light speed ships?

>>211391299
>Were they trying to kill the Humans because he had done that?
Explained as them having sent an Agent to their world (Jesus), and humanity having killing him
>why did he chimp out and attack David and Weyland?
This one made it to filming before it was cut
Weyland and David talk to him, and the Engineer gets absolutely pissed at Weyland for demanding immortality and considering himself a god
https://youtu.be/tDu_onvlr44?si=Dv3pFTSxMH6imBuX

>>211386342
Earth vs the Flying Saucers