James Gunn changes the ‘American way’ to the ‘Human way’ in new Superman movie

BASED!!!!

Did Cavill even said "American way" in an unironic way?

>>211374420
No.
And learn English before posting again.

>>211374386 (OP)
Well yeah he’s a fag anon, faggots do and say faggot things.

>>211374420
Kinda, they include a little throwaway line at the end of Man of Steel. When the military general tells him the US can't put its trust into an extraterrestrial being, Cavillman answers something along the line of "I grew up in Kansas general, you can't get much more American than me".

>>211374386 (OP)
Dump this move, and James Gunn, into the trash.

>>211374420
>>211374452
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYkvRm_Zokk

>>211374386 (OP)
Explain what "human way" means without sounding like a retard.

Because that worked so well with First Man, didn't it? Just lost my money, FAGGOT.

>>211374521
I mean I hate it, but it’s not a huge stretch to see where some woke writers could take it.
>I was raised to believe in certain values! That all men are created equal! That this planet believes in truth, justice and love for a better human way.
>kills general zod/bizarro for the 800th time

>>211374386 (OP)
>the american way
>creating a useless bitcoin reserve
>tariffs on everything
>red-square style tank parades in washington
I can see why Superman wouldn't want to uphold that.

They’ve ditched that shit in the comics a long time ago. Even GI Joe dropped the real American hero stuff. Republican policies have made Americans too poor to be the sole viable market for a product. Can’t go scaring off the countries where people still have disposable income like communist China or socialist Europe

>>211374650
>for a better human way

I have to laugh every time I see somebody criticizing great movies made for us normal people who actually leave our house to interact with other normal people. FUCK these autist cunts in their fedora-wearing asses. It's like some unwritten rule in their pathetic notebook that they have to be miserable at everything, that the world is "shit" and everything they hear or see is "shit" and the agenda of everyone is "shit".

We get it. We watched that South Park episode, too. You have Asperger's Syndrome. Now drink some whisky, lighten the fuck up and seek help for it. You're not the only one in that boat, bucko.

WE rule this board, now. WE decide who's cool and who's not. You rock spiders clinging to the 4chan of the past? The ones that yearn for Bela Tarr marathons while you lick Dorito crumbs off of your fingers and weep for "being born in the wrong generation"? You're archaic. You're ANCIENT FUCKING HISTORY. You've been left behind.

Come out of your basement, you cave-dwellers. Come and celebrate the new millennium by watching Superman with the rest of us. It's the present year and we have cake.

Even though it's a lie.

>>211374696
Am I wrong though

>>211374652
As opposed to the African way where you have a 60iq and eat people in Juju rituals

Or the spic way where you have 80iq and get your face cut off with a chainsaw because you drove on the highway at night

Am*ricans confirmed non-human.

>>211374688
Brother the direct reason why comic books are flopping is because they do anything but appeal to normal American white men.

>>211374753
This is such a retarded take. You get outraged by the exceptions cause the main media you consume is outrage merchants. Most comics are stuck in the 90s appealing to edgy man children. The reason comics are failing is because they almost entirely go after older men who are actively dying from diabetes.

>>211374730
>60iq
>80iq
All of these exist in US, they elected the guy who is in charge now.

>>211374851
Nope, those men are just buying manga instead. We don’t want nigger Thor, or a black Muslim female captain britain, or a black captain america, etc., everyone knows how pozzed this trash is. Turns out spitting on your core fanbase doesn’t lead to more sales

>>211374942
None of those replaced the replaced the other comic. The other comic was still coming out. But you don’t know that cause you get all your comic news from virgins who got kicked out of playing magic the gathering for being smelly.

>>211374969
>ITS NOT POZZED CHUD IT JUST ISNT
Okay man. Enjoy those declining sales while everyone buys manga in record numbers

>>211374897
Truth, Justice and The Hillbilly Way.

>>211375002
Triggered you into a corner I see. lol. Back in my day we would call this pwnage. Enjoy letting YouTube lie to you and control how you think.

>>211375128
You haven’t pwned shit, noob. Everyone knows why this shit is increasingly irrelevant. White male nerds just aren’t a fan of leftist propaganda

>>211375020
Hill Billy’s don’t vote. Most Trump supporters are people who inherited a used car dealership but consider themselves self made.

>>211374521
The Reddit way

>>211374386 (OP)
it's code for open borders and love brown people

>>211374386 (OP)

Superman, like Batman, only works as an expression of it´s setting. He really can´t be who he needs to be without the city of tomorrow, without that believe in progress and in the future. It was that exaggerated naive optimism that´s inherently tied to the mentality of the American way what allowed him to be inspiring in the first place.

All the other heroes always followed him not because he was the most powerful but because he had an unwavering will to fight for what was morally right without compromising. That´s Superman. He is the light that leads all men to do better. Like it or not that´s the character.

Now, i´ve seen Gunn´s trailers and he just does not respect that; at all. I´d say that "human way" thing even goes against it. Superman is meant to inspire humanity to be better than what it is, to go beyond, to break through. Tarantino was right when he described Superman in Kill Bill, Superman is Superman and Clark Kent is the disguise, the costume he uses to blend in and pass as human, the pathetic insecure coward. A more human Superman would defy the purpose. If god is not greater than life itself, if he is just another stranger on the bus, if he follows the human way and it´s petty and prone to anger or personal gain then he can´t lead. And that´s the Superman Gunn shows us, he constantly gets his ass kicked and the other heroes hold no respect for him. That´s not Superman.

>>211374386 (OP)
>falseflagging
Snyderfags are getting scared

>>211374386 (OP)
>Human way
What about Superman's alien friends?

>>211374725
Yes you are. You didn't explain what the fuck human way means you just used it in a retarded sounding sentence that's barely english.

Why do Americans hate themselves so much?

Why not just just adapt Red Son if they dont want Superman to be anything like Superman?

>>211374386 (OP)
that doesn't even make any sense

>>211374386 (OP)
Why? only Americans are human

>>211375150
wow, I didn't realize half the population of america was people who inherited used car dealerships! how fascinating

>>211376461
decades of propaganda

i inherited a new car dealership

>>211374704
YWNBN

>>211374753
>normal
>American
>white
>men

>YWNBnAwm

>>211374521
making a shiv out of a sharpened deer antler and killing some grug from the next tribe over to help secure your tribe's dominance of the primo berry patches down by the riverbend

>>211374652

>>211374386 (OP)
>Truth, Justice, and all the young boys I can eat

>>211374386 (OP)
That doesn't make much sense. Superman is not a human. He is american though.

>>211374704
Not watching anything that celebrates the existence of browns. No exceptions.

Oh my science, thank god we have decent human beings showing what real humanity looks like, you go superso.y! Let's discard humanity is also negative stuff, no no no no that would be chuddy, humanity is just le positive and le good! Of course my friends on reddit dictates what real good is, like anti-tribalism and unconditional love for everyone except for us fellow evil white males.

>>211377336
Liberals lmao

>>211375128
I mean regardless of what that anon thinks (I feel it's more market forces like not selling comics at easily accessible places like grocery stores myself) there's no doubt that manga and anime that doesn't try to get super politically involved, or at least not engage in American culture wars, is doing well while American comics can't seem to get younger generations to engage.

>>211374386 (OP)

> /tv/pol screams about a comic book movie. Again.

This is why the school put you in the trailer behind the PE Field. You just can't be around normal people.

>>211374386 (OP)
If the slogan has to change, does it have to be “the human way”? It felt like they already had a better fix last time when they said “better tomorrow” or “better world.”

>>211374386 (OP)
DOA.

>>211374521
Supporting Hamas.

>>211374386 (OP)
'and the human way'? Why not 'and a better tomorrow?' what Superman's slogan has been for 20+ years now

>>211374688
The continuation of the original Joe comic is still called Real American Hero.

>>211374386 (OP)
Commie bullshit

This movie is fucking cooked bros. I was really holding out hope for a good Superman but every bit of news about this movie just gets worse and worse.

This will be James Gunn's Love and Thunder moment, I'm calling it now.

>>211374851
>they almost entirely go after older men who are actively dying from diabetes.
Is your argument that older men WANT woke shit? Because that's what comics have been full of for about 20 years, significantly more than in TV/movies.

>>211379400
Hey.

Fuck off faggot.

>>211374704
Superman's James Gunn will bomb, Gunn's pedophilic tweets will very publicly resurface, all his projects will be scrapped and Matt Reeves will be hastily brought back to continue his DCEU.

>>211374386 (OP)
And the is no way I will watch it.

>>211374851
>This is such a retarded take. You get outraged by the exceptions cause the main media you consume is outrage merchants. Most comics are stuck in the 90s appealing to edgy man children. The reason comics are failing is because they almost entirely go after older men who are actively dying from diabetes.

>>211374688
>Republican policies have made Americans too poor

>>211374386 (OP)
American Way was added later in the comics. There is nothing wrong with updating and changing it because that was an update and change itself. Fucking casuals.

>>211374652
kek

>>211380344
Yrs, there is nothing wrong with updating James Gunn to director retirement home.

>>211380240
>Inflation skyrockets
>Talk about how you saved Americans 16 cents

>>211374704
Here's your (you), bitch.

Like people have already said "and a better tomorrow" was already a better fix. In a universe with many friendly aliens and where Superman is an alien himself "the human way" feels weirdly fascistic.

This comes off like when John Byrne made the rocket Superman landed in a "birthing matrix" so that he was technically "born" on Earth and wasn't an immigrant.

>>211380595
>Like people have already said "and a better tomorrow" was already a better fix. In a universe with many friendly aliens and where Superman is an alien himself "the human way" feels weirdly fascistic.
unamerican claptrap

>>211374386 (OP)
Oh my fauci ouchi wowchi i'm so glad they replaced that BIGOTED term!

>>211374452
Which didn't make any sense cause he was trying to hide his identity but told the military his age and where he grew up. You could easily identify him just from that.

Superman: "Truth, justice, and the American way"

NU-Superman: "Goodwill, Savers, Value Village, and the United Way"

>>211374386 (OP)
He's not even human though.

Comics are gay leftist propaganda, fuck comics and fuck comics adaptations.

It’s actually people way

>>211374428
>And learn English before posting again.
No

>>211374851
are you typing this from a parralel dimmension?
post one example fo a comic that is trying to court the old man audience?
every single comic made since 2015 has been about feminism, trannies and black people, and THATS WHY they are not selling

>>211380344
Superman flying wasn't added until later too. Guess we should shitcan that too, huh?

>>211380891
The median Big 2 comics reading is over 30.

>>211380979
so?
who do you think the hypothetical audience for this is?

>comics

>>211380979
old white men looooove this!!
man, this is so 90s, i bet men over 30 loooooves it.

>>211381027
I don't even know who this is or what the context is. What is supposed to be egregious about this?

>>211380979
old white men loves this shit, thats why they keep making it. because it sells, and not becuase of atempted political subversion

86 posts in this thread and no one has explained what "The American Way" is. What aspects that Superman fights to preserve are both positive and uniquely American?

>>211381080
whatever it is, do you think white men over 30 loves it? do you think its made to appeal to them?

>>211381128
i wasnt sure either for a while. but then i learned than more than half of all marriages in pakistan is between siblings and realized you weigh the worth of your own county by how much other people in other countries suck, and america deservedly at least at the top 5 spot.

>our target audience is heterosexual white men

>>211381139
Maybe? Is the assumption that no white guy over 30 is a lib?

>>211381080
nta but the near-total lack of background is pretty awful

>>211381061
>old ass white ass cracka ass mufugus

>>211381128
anything current Hollywood marks as evil

>>211381080
You are an irredeemable faggot.

>>211380952
Well, it would save money on visual effects if he just walked everywhere.

>>211381199
and because of their appeal to white male libs over 30 comics no longer sell.
and they KNEW this was happening
>>211380891
here he says they NOTICED readers turned their nose up at feminist, leftist woke comics.
but they kept making them anyway.
this was done for attempted political subversion, they believed the youth would be brainwashed by this, but the 2024 election showed them that its not working and it has made the youth hate them, wich is why that all this shit is now boing droped

>>211374386 (OP)
explained by the heat map

>>211381288
>they believed the youth would be brainwashed by this
But young people haven't read comics for over 30 years.

>>211381188
Marrying outside your family is not a uniquely American trait.
>>211381232
That's a non-answer. Be specific.

>>211374386 (OP)
Wow, I certainly believe every little bit of ragebait that I see on the internet!

>>211381061
This is actually a good comic. Wonder Woman Earth One by Grant Morrison. It's an homage to the feminist/Freudian submission fantasy of the original William Moulton Marston comics.

cartoon did it fine with a "not just for America, but the world" because they went into space.

>>211381323
-in japan you ar eguilty until proven innocent
-in england they are currently introducing blasphemy laws for islam
-sweden imported millions of muslims and now has 100 bombings a year
-african countries has an average IQ of 70-80
USA is in the top 5 to live in, nobody if fleeing it. but parasites try to get in

>>211374521
Being a Star Trek TNG fan.

>>211381450
>100 bombings a year

>>211381450
I did not ask "Which American traits are not found in at least one country". I asked "Which American traits are positive and unique to America".

>>211374386 (OP)
kek, 'a better tomorrow' was a million times better if you're gonna cuck and remove 'American way'. This is seriously funny as fuck

>>211381483
100 bombings per MILLIONS (of any group) actually sounds quite low.
if he made it up, i feel like he made a mistake. Sweden should import MORE Muslims, owing to their low bomber rate.

>>211374386 (OP)
>We need the foreign gross

They've got a transwoman writing and drawing Supergirl now, and honestly it's pretty good.

>>211374452
So not kinda at all

snyder bros, what's our response?

>>211381493
Briton here, 'me dad were a miner' type, but i think America's freedumz and associated patriotism are uniquely American and not bad things. a big republic where you have individual liberty? being proud of that? both positive traits.

there are still plenty of places in the world where you can't practise whatever religion (or lack of a religion) you choose. America codified that, i think that's solid.

>>211381320
young people are buying manga right now.
what prevents comics from doing the same is woke politics. woke politics inherently prevents you from making fun exciting things.
and its not the anime aesthethic that draws these sales, the anime aesthethic is generaly a hindrance for sales in the west(except for the interested).young people are just grasping after the medium in any way they can. western comics just refuse to deliver what they want because what the youth want doesnt fit their politics

>>211381597
dog has no butthole

movie ruined

>>211381483
>>211381524
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50339977
it's true, even the bbc reports on it

>>211380952
That show was called Smallville.

>>211381548
holy shit. this is way more coomer than the average 90s female superhero swimwear suit

>>211381604
actually Britain codified that in the Toleration Act of 1688. we just kept hating papists unofficially for quite a while afterwards.

>>211374386 (OP)
Do you guys realise how much the "American way" line sounds like creepy propaganda to literally everyone in the whole world who isn't American? It is really, really off-putting.

>>211381625
Comic sales died because they switched to direct marketing where they took comics out of grocery stores and newsstands and put them in rare specialty shops run by fat weirdos. The publishers did this because in this model the retailers can't get refunds for unsold copies. That and the speculation bubble are what killed comics.

>>211374521
The human way to me is community, persistence, overcoming, dominating, and empathy. Doesn’t seem like a hard concept to me.
And an alien saying it makes all the more sense.

>>211381701
that's why its preceded by "truth, justice and". to make it harder to take issue with.

the funny thing is that because its not said what "the American way" is, it can mean anything we want. really makes the heads explode in parts of the world where politics is supposed to be legitimizd by a single given religion or ideology.

>>211381744
If it's just an empty signifier then why are people upset at its replacement?

>>211381701
We don't think about you at all.

>>211381701
non-American here. it doesn't sound creepy. what does sound creepy is assuming that liberal American values are universal human values.

>Gunn admitting Americans are the only true people
I don't get it, why are we mad at this?

>>211381680
In this comic yellow sun radiation makes Kryptonian women thiccer.

>>211381758
Half of what Trump says is all about how the world doesn't take America seriously anymore

>>211381251
those effects already look like they took the budget friendly route

>>211381705
theres no reason for western comics sales to be so low they are now, i refuse to accept that 20 years or more after the speculation bubble comics are still dead because of that.
but i see switching to specialty shops as something that could lower sales, but not this dramaticaly.
also, i will point at this post again,
>>211380891
marvel NOTICED a drop in sales for race-based and feminist comics, but kept making them anyway.

>>211381813
HRT analogy?

>>211381770
Truth and Justice are liberal values? What are you even trying to argue here?

>>211381483
>>211381524
hmmm, seems like sourcelets cant take it and disapear when a source is delivered
>>211381642

>>211381979
I asked for source, just wanted fuel to argue with my libtard friends and didn't want to look for it myself because I don't want Google to think I'm a Chud.
You got played like a fiddle, but thank you.

>>211381979
Only one of the two people you quoted asked for a source. The other took at face value that the original claim may be true. You need better post literacy.

>>211382028
>>211382182
>sourcelets seething at sourcechads

>>211374386 (OP)
Snyderjeets are desperate.

>>211381757
because they project whatever they're anxious about onto it.
same as the word "liberal" incidentally.

>>211382210
ok thanks for the spoonfeed nigger KEK

>>211381548
>>211381813
I think I owe trannies an apology

>>211376433
Exactly what they’ll do in movie, anon. Try to keep up you’re a little slow.