Thread 211386414

On the subject of Arthouse and Classics

Modern Action Classics edition
>QotD
What are your favorite modern action films?
Bonus: do you think the genre has decayed in quality as the years go by? What was the golden era of the genre?

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Queen of /film/

Was it the /kdg/ schizo who baked again? Or am I just judging a book by its cover because you went with a Korean flick?

>>211386426
Fuck you anon! I had just gotten over the dream about her, and now I want to kill myself again! I’m going to drink myself stupid to forget about her!

>QOTD
The action genre? You mean for children? Pew pew gunfights haha. Not my cup of tea.

>>211386414 (OP)
>What are your favorite modern action films?
What do you mean by modern, where is the cutoff?
>do you think the genre has decayed in quality as the years go by?
Everything has.
>What was the golden era of the genre?
1980s Hong Kong.

living old master of /film/

>>211386414 (OP)
>What are your favorite modern action films?
That's a tough one. There's the normie answer of the M:I movies or Sicario for American stuff, while SK came into it's own since the 00s. Personally, I'd have to go with picrel given it has a very fresh spin on Cold War action thrillers that I wish more American/European movies would do.
>What was the golden era of the genre?
Early 80s to the very early 00s given Hong Kong action cinema burst onto the scene, American action blockbusters dominated financially and culturally, PfX/stuntwork was at it's peak right before CG smashed everything, and movies could do a lot more with budgets back then than they can do now. It was perfect for action films.

https://youtu.be/aiY78EqZgSU
Once again wops making beautiful romantic music to accompany horrific imagery. Ortolani rules.

Zoom Zoom has to be one of the worst posters in the history of this general. Everything he says is completely filtered by a /pol/ lens; 0% objectivity.

>>211386461
Watch the movie, it's great.

>>211386768
>/POL/POL/POL/
Liking Africa Addio and thinking Possession-influenced horror movies suck isn't a /pol/ opinion, Emily.

>>211386861
Bro, you're so dumb it's offensive. I like Africa Addio, but your takes on the movie are terrible. You also think every criticism of your (borrowed) ideas are symptomatic of one's identity being tied into said criticisms, which is a laughable perspective to go into life with. You really think everything goes down to liking / disliking something, don't you? Can't you see how illogical that way of "thinking" is.

>>211386923
>your takes on the movie are terrible
I haven't even had a "take" on the movie otuside of me explaining why it's a controversial film because somebody in that thread asked, which I did and you disagreed with.
>You also think every criticism of your (borrowed) ideas are symptomatic of one's identity being tied into said criticisms
The longstanding controversy surrounding Africa Addio is almost entirely a political one in nature, which is something I explained in that thread and you had a weird freakout over; which if anything is proof that my thesis regarding that the nature of the controversy surrounding that film was correct.
>You really think everything goes down to liking / disliking something, don't you?
No, I reduced my ideas down to brevity in this thread to comedic effect to strawman both you and myself.

>>211387123
Aha, right, to strawman both me and you. Yikes.

>>211386484
I thought you went down the previous time, but I guess we weren't so lucky. Good luck, B.

>>211386639
I love this demented old geezer so much. I've always said that an addiction to self-sabotage is the mark of a capital-A Artist, and you can clearly see it in all of his 80s cineramas, where he'd apply oddball filmmaking techniques to otherwise accessible boilerplate narratives. Only a true lunatic would stylize his coming-of-age crime drama into an elaborate homage to German Expressionism.

>>211387188
>to strawman both me and you
Yes, because this is a funni meme site and a funni meme board where we take the piss out of each other and ourselves while discussing classic and arthouse films.
>Yikes
I am now convinced you are nothing more than a troll who is actually not worth my time. Addio!

>>211386414 (OP)
A Bittersweet Life is so underrated
https://youtu.be/imqiuSOYVzs?si=gzeczFwRM3wtTo5y

>>211386768
>>211386923
You are literally projecting onto him. If you aren't baiting you have a serious problem dude.

>>211387400
No, I'm not.

>>211387325
Of course, when one tries to discuss anything seriously you get the "oh shit, it was all a prank bro! Why so serious xd!"

Another webmless thread.

Zoom Zoom is right on this one.

>>211387318
Rock 'N' Roll WHAT???

>>211387627
>"if you don't like Africa Addio you're a White Guilt-riddled European/American"
I like Africa Addio and I'm not white
>"Lol I was just strawmanning for the lulz"
Intellectual powerhouse tactics.

>>211387621
:·3

shaking my thing and getting down with my bad self

Watch Africa Addio

>>211387783
Also throw in Addio, zio Tom while you're at it.

>>211387783
And also Cannibal Holocaust, which is criminally misunderstood.

act like a brilliant, think like a fool

>>211387884
you got it mixed up lil bro

kinos for this feel?

>>211387942
I think he's just documenting reality, kinda like Eggers with his neo-realist joints.

FUCK THE COLD AHHHHHH

>>211387868
Another certified Riz score banger, i'm whistling the main theme right now.

>>211387975
you're trying too hard

>>211388020
I actually think the killing of that turtle was interesting. I never had seen guts and fat like that before.

(To Charlotte)
In dreams I walk with you
In dreams I talk to you
In dreams you're mine all of the time
We're together in dreams, in dreams

somebody put a muzzle on this guy

>>211388167
I'll see you in my dreams
And then I'll hold you in my dreams
Someone took you right out of my arms
Still I feel the thrill of your charms
Lips that once were mine
Tender eyes that shine
They will light my way tonight
I'll see you in my dreams
Yes I will... see you in my dreams
You know I'll... hold you in my dreams
I know that... someone took you right out of my arms
But... still I feel the thrill of your charms
I dream of... lips that once were mine
And those... tender eyes that shine
I know... they'll light my way tonight
When I... see you in my dreams
Yes they will... light my way tonight
Because I'll... see you in my dreams

>>211387473
>>211387722
>discuss anything seriously
That first reply I made to you itt I was making a quippy remark you fucking moron, it was obviously not meant to be serious at all. Everything else I've said here is dead serious and I'm really disturbed by the fact that you're completely incapable of comprehending anything I say.
>I like Africa Addio and I'm not white
Well then wtf are we even talking about, all I said was "this movie is controversial because critics branded it as racist and it made people, especially normie White people, feel uncomfortable" to an anon that asked why it was controversial; only for you to sperg out and say this wasn't the case even though I cited the most well-known and oft-cited review of the film by an American critic at the time that exempilfied everything I was saying.

>>211388589
You're too high nigga, you were talking with me most of the time yet you didn't even realize it. You gotta put down the pipe, bro. Dingoesque style.

>>211388589
You're talking to costaricanon here, bro, it's like arguing with a woman, he'll twist and turn everything and never admit he's wrong, ever, even when it's clear that he is, so it's futile to argue.

>>211388780
You have been sore your whole live over who knows what, man. You should apply some cream to your ass, because ever since you post in here you always seem butthurt over everything. You always need to be contrarian and passive agressive over everything, huh.

I’m a stupid idiot so please enlighten me /film/, why do blu ray discs look so much better than anything I find on streaming services?

*drum roll*

>>211388917
streaming
higher quality = more data
more data = more bandwidth (more internet)
more bandwidth = more expensive - bad business
blu ray
the discs themselves have a lot of space to fit a lot of data and the distributor isn't paying servers (cheaper good business). they fill em up to the top with data!

>>211389133
Thank you

Streaming is for throwaway passtime bullshit like tv shows or comedy specials, for real kinos what you want is seedless torrent of a vhsrip taped off of a showing on RAITRE from 2002.

>>211388917
blurays are 40-100Mbps
Netflix *best case scenario* for a 4K image is around 10Mbps, if you're lucky

>>211390103
source
https://netflixtechblog.com/optimized-shot-based-encodes-for-4k-now-streaming-47b516b10bbb

>>211387367
It's not, it is one of the best Korean action slop but it is still slop.

>>211390141
What nigga kino is this

After some reflection I think picrel is actually an allegory for male impotence and so much about art.

>>211390292
*not so much about art

>>211390292
They banned me for a pic similar to that from that same movie.
Male impotence why?

>>211387986
I like it.

>>211386426
>>211387318
>>211387762
>>211390292
Beautiful women make me so sad.

>>211390564
why

>>211390673
There's some intrisic melancholy in beauty. At least I feel that way.

>>211387621
I thought this was a cool montage for an old movie

>>211390377
Male sex drive is effectively about capturing female beauty, possessing it, and the film is about the inability to do this. The old painter's literal impotence is perhaps just one aspect of this. He starts off very suave and confident around Marianne, toys with her and gets physically dominating during the project, the trajectory appears to be that they will fuck but they never do. He later appeals to humour, then feigns losing interest in the project to get her to take initiative, but no matter what he can't capture her. She is severely disappointed with his finished "work" so he paints another, a lie to save face, to excuse that he couldn't create the intimacy and satisfaction they both wanted. There are many other clues like him sleeping in a separate bed to his wife. It may all be unintentional and just Rivette's personality seeping into the film.

>>211390774
Pic related.
(It's ironic because Patti Smith was inspired by Baudelaire)

>>211391013
I wanted to read Baudelaire but I can't into French. Maybe one day...

>>211390673
with actresses especially because they can look ethereal making you feel a religious admiration only to come to the sobering realization that they are human so they feel horny too and since they are desired and surrounded by charismatic handsome and powerful men and people in this space tend to be free spirited/weird means they've had god knows how many dicks inside of them.

>>211390279
The Love Light (1921) with mary pickford

I got the blueees baby. Got em real bad. Listening to Charlotte right now. Films for this feel.

>>211391428
The Killing of a Chinese Bookie

>>211391442
Seen’t it.

>>211391122
Of course, reading poetry in translation is never ideal, but there are plenty of quality adaptations that manage to capture the atmospheric and tonal qualities of the original text, which is significantly more important than simply mirroring the vernacular in a different language and calling it a day.

I'm a big fan of this website that compiles multiple versions of Baudelaire's Flowers of Evil. Juxtaposing the disparate takes and piecing together the authorial intent in the process is a lot of fun.
https://fleursdumal.org/

>>211387657
Speaking of les poètes maudits, if you read Rimbaud's A Season in Hell, that song's lyrics make a lot more sense.

>>211391224
Knowing how many dicks might have gone inside then doesn't botter me; it bothers me much more knowing I cannot have my slice of the pie.

>>211390924
Well, Rivette was a huge homo.

>>211391592
I've read that, got a nice bilingual edition, good for trying to learn french.

Andrey Konchalovsky and Nikita Mikhalkov stuff with english subs on Mosfilm's youtube channel.

Another cold lonely night alone on /film/.

>>211392764
Today was an exoticaZ day for me

>>211392842
In what way?

>>211392764
These threads are completely cooked. Feels like 50% of regulars went away since the riots started.

I’m a real nigga daddy I promise! I promise imma real nigga daddy!

>>211392921
Yeah, they were all L.A. chicanos.

I'm da real puff daddy.

Is Iranon ok? I know we always fight over the islamist regime of Iran but i hope you're okay and i hope you guys nuke Tel Aviv.

>>211392933
All deported and shit. Sad!

>>211392894
40gb of Sperm Mania megapack files

mirin' a file
gettin' called a cinephile

>>211393097
Good lord!

>>211386414 (OP)
>What are your favorite modern action films?
My favorite modern action film is Elite Squad. I haven't seen a movie come close to how well Elite Squad depicts power structures.
Honorable mentions: Dredd & The Nice Guys
>do you think the genre has decayed in quality as the years go by? What was the golden era of the genre?
Action movies have generally gotten better in terms of action sequences, but much worse it terms of storytelling. They focus to much on the action itself, so the rest of the movie becomes an afterthought. E.g. The Gray Man. The golden era of action movies was July 12th 1991, when Point Break released.

>>211393217
>Dredd
Big guy.

>>211393217
>2007
>Absolutely packed theater
>So packed there's people sitting on the floor in front of the seats and in the hallway
>Young dudes in front of me won't shut the fuck up at a certain point
>Shoosh them
>"Relax, fatty" is their response
I'm still pissed at this.

>>211393325
Hilarious story, did you cartel them at the end of the movie?

>>211393349
Of course not, i was 13, and i was indeed fat.

>>211386580
>1980s Hong Kong.
Such an incredible era, i like a lot of their 90s stuff too.

>>211386643
>SK came into it's own since the 00s
IMO they burned out pretty quickly though.

>>211392764
It's unusually cold in Brazil tonight! I'm drinking some cachaça and watching some kinos, while also ruminating on my loneliness during the national Valetine's day. Rather comfy ngl.

>>211388917
It's all about the bitrate.

Remember when 64kb/s mp3's sounded like crap compared to the 320kb/s ones? It's like that.
Streaming services lower the bitrate significantly to save bandwidth.

>>211393849
Not comfy at all, i hate it, hope it goes back to the 20s°C soon. I did have some hot chocolate earlier though, that was nice.

>>211394128
I suppose we're different animals then, but your wish is sure to be fulfilled as the winter rarely lasts for more than a week around here.

>>211394128
I had hot chocolate too early in the afternoon. I love scrolling film with a hot beverage yum yum give me some

>>211394128
Let's trade places, it's scorching hot like always up here in nordeste.

>>211394360
>nordeste
I'm good, thanks.

>>211394182
I don't like the heat either but the cold really fucks me up, doesn't help that my house is always five degrees colder than the outside and that i'm skin and bones. 21/22°C is the perfect temperature for me.

>>211386414 (OP)
this looks kino don't really watch koreon slop but i'll make an exception what am in for?

>>211394549
Emotional shawtys
Shy sadboi revenge killer
Heroic bloodshed

???

>>211395407
It's over.

RIP Noah Chomsky.

Is there a chart that would be helpful for a deep-dive into Iranian cinema? I'm looking for deep cuts / "hidden gems".

>>211395576
The Operative (2019)

Just watched this kino. Highly underrated Hitchcock film.

>>211395977
We talk about how good it is literally every other thread.

>>211395977
>Highly underrated Hitchcock film
>not Shadow of a Doubt
lol, lmao even

>>211396015
It feels very modern: stichomythic dialogue; lots of expectation-reversal; very dense with incident for so short a film; every scene has something uncanny or surprising.

>>211396068
That one is not really that underrated, the man himself thought it was his best.

>>211395977
>>211396068
Both of these are very highly rated, an actual underrated Hitch film would be Wrong Man or I Confess.

>>211396377
I Confess is overhated but still not very good.

>>211386461
not me unnie

>>211396377
Young and Innocent, which i like better than The Lady Vanishes.

>>211396432
Koreans are hardcore alcoholics, it's a real problem there.

>>211386414 (OP)
I got that movie on bluray, might have to give it a watch

>>211390784
Was this from Yankee Doodle Dandy?

>>211396432
You should do a qt from The Handmaiden bake one of these days.

>>211386414 (OP)
>Start getting into HK classics in the last few weeks
>Hardboiled
>The Killer
>A Better Tomorrow
>Wow this great! I love 80/90s HK now
>Cops, gangsters, loyalty...bullets everywhere!
>Watch pic rel expecting the same
>wtf I have PTSD now
I mean, great film, excellent but one of these things is not like the others

speaking of Honk Kong, watch The Cat (1992), you can find a torrent in the kdg movies pastebin.

>>211386414 (OP)
What are some good abrasive/abstract war films, preferably something from the Middle East?

>>211396619
what the fuck are you talking about

>>211396690
Merely a question

>Hyperstition is a term that describes ideas or beliefs that, through their existence and dissemination, bring about their own reality, functioning as self-fulfilling prophecies.
What are the best examples of hyperstitious cinema?

The Japanese John Ford and John Wayne

This was a fun movie. Hong Kong stuff seems inevitably filled with clichés and overdramatization, but the characters were enjoyable and the music was cool

How's my curve /film/

Truth nuke

>>211396547
I always found The Killer gave me too many feels for what I was told was a somewhat cheesy 80s b-movie.

Just watched Something Wild (1986). I enjoyed it thoroughly, and was satisfied with where the plot went. If I had to sum it up, I guess it would go like this. One day, something or someone may come into your life by chance that practically forces you to give up your old life in order to pursue it fully and ardently. I’m still waiting for that thing to come into my life. Pretty little movie.
Yours truly,
Supremelemon

>>211396888
This, but Kurosawa wasn’t gay for Mifune.

>>211397194
i like it because it looks good

>>211396547
I made my parents watch this with me for my birthday and they thought it was boring.

>>211397796
I used to make my father watch movies with me, but are tastes differ so much that we would be near blows by the end of the movie.

>>211398180
Our* I showed that nigger Mikey and Nicky, and the entire time he was bitching that nothing was happening.

>>211387884
That's Eggers. Aster is actually brillant.

>>211392276
Rivette was gay?

>>211398392
He was a tranny.

>>211398369
I’m looking forward to his new film. I was not too big on Hereditary or Midsommar, but I think Beau is Afraid is really good.

>>211397194
chatgpt, dead giveaway is the long dash usage and tone.

>>211397052
hate curve autists, yeah my curve is gonna skew to the right dumbass I have something called discernment.

>>211392619
Those guys were actually brothers.

>>211398612
dey still alive nigga

>>211398683
>directs Tango & Cash
>assfucks Juliette Binoche
>supports the Russian war machine
hello based department?

>>211398723
They're both big Russian chauvinists

About to watch To Live and Die in LA Dingo.

>>211398723
one of the few directors who didnt fuck Nasstasja Kinski. Pro-tip: get a good car when you're on a date with her

>At the time of our meeting at the Shangri-La Hotel, I was a poor-sih, with a hundred-dollar bill in my wallet, and that was it. I figured it out. A hundred dollars seemed to be enough for lunch with Kinski, we went to a restaurant. Looking at the menu, I worriedly wondered: "What will she order?" Those were the fun times I had then...
>The conversation turned to the play that we were going to do together. I wanted to court Kinski a little. Nothing came of it. Once, it was on the ocean, I hugged her. I came up from behind and hugged her, it lasted only five seconds, but it was enough to feel that nothing would work out. Our biocurrents are probably different. But our relationship turned out to be very good.

>>211398928
"With a good car, you can fuck Kinski any way you want" - Kinskifag said to himself out loud

>>211398928
Konchalovsky tells a story his days in the Cannon film company, when Barbet Schroeder threatened to cut his finger for the distribution rights of Barfly
>Schroeder is a Swiss German. With the punctuality typical of Germans, he showed up, brought a scalpel, novocaine, a syringe, and laid out the instruments on a napkin in Golan's reception area. The photographer was there with his camera. Barbet looked at his watch: a quarter to one. In fifteen minutes, exactly at one o'clock, he said, I'll give myself a novocaine block, then I'll cut my finger.

>>211399209
>Sitting with Kurosawa at the foot of Fujiyama and eating sushi — it’s like a line from a poem by Shpalikov. The conversation turned to politics, Kurosawa expressed his sympathy for Lenin, said that he was a great man. I could not help but object.
>- You judge Lenin this way because you yourself
lived in his country. You should have lived there first...
>There was a heavy pause. Everyone fell silent. >Apart from us, only the interpreter was audible. The Japanese sat deathly pale. Kurosawa turned purple. He began to speak very angrily. By that time we had already sat through a bottle, no less, and so I angrily explained to him what Soviet power was... Probably, for Kurosawa, Lenin forever became the personification of a historical force capable of destroying in his country what he would like to destroy - Japanese militarism, the Japanese state hierarchical machine with its three-hundred-year tradition. I didn’t know that Kurosawa had once been arrested for throwing stones at a police station while drunk. He was already over sixty then.

>>211398404
I’m looking forward to his new film. I was not too big on Beau Is Afraid, but I think Midsommar is really good.

>>211399312
Did Kurosawa like Runaway Train, since it was his script and all?

>>211399433
doesnt tell
>Kurosawa agreed that I would make the film. But later, when I arrived with the film, he refused to see me. Perhaps he perceived me as a person who had succumbed to American imperialist ideology. After this meeting, the Japanese bowed politely to me, but looked at me with apprehension. Strange!

>>211399534
>I went to San Sebastian to receive the Grand Prix for Homer and Eddie. Otar Iosseliani was on the jury. We drank vodka backstage, which gave me a spiritual lift and a surge of inspiration. When I was called on stage, I saw Bette Davis, who was to present me with the Golden Shell, and I knelt down in front of her. She, in her blindness, thought that I had simply fallen and jumped back. Then she realized that I was kneeling in front of her. I was drunk, of course, but I could stand on my feet, and I fell to my knees simply from drunken inspiration and my long-standing love for the great actress. The next day she sent me a letter - probably the last letter in her life. I keep it carefully. The letter is very brief: "Hurray, we* (*the Americans. - A.K.) have won again! I hope to see you in Hollywood." And the signature - B.D. - on a card with a gold edge. She all her life loved men, could not stand members of her own sex. Five days later, in the same place, in San Sebastian, she died of a heart attack.

>>211399941
>One day, Elena Kaleinotis and I were sitting, discussing a script, and suddenly we heard a cat meowing somewhere. She had no pets. We looked into the kitchen - no one there. We returned to the room - again meowing. We went to look for the cat again. I sat down, looked under the table... and behold, Marlon Brando was sitting under the table. When he was bored, he wandered around this area, looked in for Elena, she cooked for him.

>>211386414 (OP)
Mesrine 1 and 2

Hong Kong First Wave or Second Wave?

>>211398865
Great movie.

>>211387318
>I've always said that an addiction to self-sabotage is the mark of a capital-A Artist
Then you're a fucking idiot and this isn't applicable to 99% of artists throughout history.

Pseuds and their pseudisms, man.

>>211386414 (OP)
looks like kieran culkin if you squint

>>211401177
It actually is applicable to many great artist. I could literally list thousands off the top of my head right now

It was slow in here already but it might be dead in here for the next three days cause I might get banned. We shall see.

I got tired of keeping track of films in notepad and put them into letterboxd
switched the watchlist to shuffle
keep refreshing and keep not wanting to watch the ones that come up first

>>211396473
It's not a true hardcore problem until Korean OLs are pissing themselves all over town and sending me the shakily recorded videos

>>211401556
just force yourself to watch the next one you shuffle. you'll probably end up liking it

>>211401468
Post a thousand. Start by posting 25 now.

>>211401724
Rembrandt, Poe, Lord Byron, just know that the list goes on!

>>211401935
Buy an ad pussassnigga

>>211400738
Does /film/ really think genreshit can be great

>>211401556
Consumer paralysis. Come back to notepad, work out rigid watching schedule and stick to it 100%.

I wrote an effortpost on The Other Side of the Wind few days ago and received zero replies. I even included several serious baits to stir up discussion, but they went unnoticed. Can someone explain why?
Here's the post https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/211343686/#q211347696

>>211402310
Yes, next question.

>>211402430
Because nobody wants to engage with effortposts anymore. I effortpost too, but lately have been doing it less because everyone only cares about shitposting.

>>211402371
>bro just turn your entertainment into a second job
no
>>211402430
it's a board (and redundant general) for people who like to watch movies - the very most passive effortless form of entertainment
the best way to get replies is to give or request recs

>>211398576
You lack something called standards.

>>211398369
at least he's not afraid of making contemporary films like Egg

>>211402310
It often is, and that makes it all the more sweet as a hidden gem.

>>211402430
You're an amateur. Three things for future baiting you should be aware of:
1-No image for your post is just (You) poison. If you want attention, including a pic rel is pretty much mandatory, because it boosts up your visibility by a ton.
2-Film is obscure, and effortpost format makes people ignore your post by it being too big to handle. Small bites, semi known films. If a film is too known, it might get ignored due to discussion of it being exhausted.
3-No controversial material: you either have to go hard on the positive or negative to make an impact; can't be "mid" about your opinions.

>>211397052
where do I find this?
i just started

>>211402538
>turn your entertainment into a second job
That's just the question of making a proper schedule. I make sure to include very different films in every watching pool or batch, usually divided by 10 or 12 or 8. For example, right now I have 2 filmed theater somethings, 2 serious dramas, 2 exploitation flicks, 2 young adult road films and 1 anthology that I can pick and watch depending on my mood.

>>211402622
You misunderstood me, I don't want (you)s, I want real discussion. I was actually inspired to finally watch the film after two pretty good Welles threads on /tv/ and thought the same anons who posted there lurk here.

>>211386414 (OP)
This movie was meh, is it considered ''arthouse''?

>>211402721
found it
I knew I was overusing 3.5 stars but a 7/10 is just so easy to assign, I get why IGN does it

>>211402879
It's more of the same, because higher (You)s imply higher chances for duscussion. If you get no (You)s at all, you can't even start a discussion. It's not a (Me) problem, it's a (You) problem.

>>211402927
Ya, I thought it sucked. I can’t believe someone actually liked it that much. It’s probably /kdg/ schizo.

>>211402927
Yeah, I'd say for its genre it's arthouse, same as Drive or Le samouraï.

>>211402964
Ok

>>211387959
dark city

I only rate half star or five star so my opinion has the most impact on the average.

>>211390141
silent kino mogs yet again

>>211401177
>>211401724
Claude Monet, Nikolai Gogol, Franz Kafka, Orson Welles, Vladimir Nabokov, Jorge Luis Borges, Francis Bacon, anyone that willfully destroyed their own artwork...

>>211403930
What an odd thing to post.

>>211401957
Byron was a good poet but he was also kind of a buffoon.

>>211402430
I did reply to you THOUGH.

>>211402622
>Film is obscure
It definitely is not, and we've had lively discussions about far more obscure stuff.

>>211395576
Brick and Mirror (196X)

>>211404292
Is 31k considered a lot of watches on LB?

>>211405003
Always multiply the letterboxd watches at least a 100 times to get an estimate of online popularity

>>211405124
I think that's a lil bit overkill, just a lil bit.

>>211402430
still haven't watched it, so had nothing to say

>>211405003
Maybe not "a lot", but surely enough for it to not be considered obscure. For me, obscure, in the context of /film/, starts at <5k logs, and I'm still being quite generous.

>>211405556
Maybe obscure was not the right word, but still, it's not a movie that a ton of people have seen, neither is it a cinephile classic or anything of that sort.

>>211398612
I'm aware, weird they use different names.

>>211398928
>>211399209
>>211399312
>>211399534
>>211399941
>>211400139
Thanks for these, pretty cool stories, it's from his autobiography i assume? The Mosfilm channel has his pre-Hollywood stuff, they look interesting, i've seen his first one and grabbed the next two, also grabbed Mikhalkov's A Slave of Love (which i remember being on Monte Hellmann's top 10 favourites) and Unfinished Piece for Mechanical Piano.

That Schroeder story is also immortalized on Bukowski's Hollywood, which is a cool book that a i recommend, it's a great time capsule of that time, by a Hollywood outsider briefly looking in.

>>211405794
Bukowski mentions meeting Konchalovsky in the book, he liked him because he kept quiet and drank a lot of vodka. He also liked Herzog, whom he asks why would he become a movie director, to which Herzog responds "because i can't do anything else".

Where do I start with Chabrol?

>>211406140
La femme infidèle
Cuck themes will resonate with /film/'s userbase.

>>211406140
Les bonnes femmes, it's a better start and better film than >>211406228

Hey, I've never watched a Greek film before. What's the one film I should watch from the country?

Books to help me become an arm chair critic , other than film as a subversive art?

>>211406967
Inb4 Jon the Violent.

>>211407233
Dictionnaire du cinéma by Jacques Lourcelles is the only book about film you'll ever need in your life.

>>211406967
Weird that Snood is the star when she's the least pretty sister.

Watch Theo Angelopoulos stuff i guess.

>>211407354
Kek, I haven't heard that one in a minute. Any other suggestions?

film books with a chronological perspective?

>>211407608
>Weird that Snood is the star when she's the least pretty sister.
Those would be fightin' words on the Snood /hr/ thread, kek.
They're all pretty cute but I wish Snood had bushier eyebrows like her sisters. Hot mom, too.

>>211407801
Jacques Lourcelle's Dictionnaire du film.

>>211407480
Thanks

>>211407808
I'm sure many would agree over there, they constantly post the prettier one there too, i've seen it.

>>211407890
It’s in French :/

>>211407985
Which is the prettier one in your opinion? Isabel? Added Landscape in the Mist to my watchlist btw

>>211406228
>>211406860
>Le femme infidèle
>Les bonnes femmes
>Une affaire de femmes
Did this guy make films about anything else?

>>211408282
What else is there? Life is literally women, wanting them, having them, not having them, loving them, hating them, using them to propagate the species etc.

>>211407998
We must all learn french, for le cinéma!

>>211408113
Yes, Isabel, absolute cutiepie, mogs Snood hard. Kino name also, if i ever have a daughter she shall be named Isabel.

With a little bit of luck, I'll bake today after a week long wait!

I'm back once again from my trip around the world to talk about another film no one has seen or cares about. I just finished this little film from Gabon. while the acting is fairly subpar and the ending felt like an asspull unless it was supposed to be a dream, I'm not sure, I rather enjoyed this little film. there are some true moments of greatness sprinkled throughout with some of the shots, and I wish there was a better version out there to really appreciate it. it reminded me a bit of a simpler City of God, with the story centering around a kid falling in with the wrong crowd trying to make some money for his sick mom. it's nothing amazing, but considering it's coming from a country with practically no film industry, it has heart. 6/10

>>211409427
Got a link to watch it? Seems interesting... perhaps like a black Bresson!?

>>211409527
I just watched it on youtube
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IVU5qisbK3k

>>211409615
Nice. Have you seen Fresh? If so, what did you think of it? The music is hilarious, and that dude from Breaking Bad is always so damn charismatic in every movie he's in.

>>211409685
I have not. I admittedly have seen very few "black" films

>>211386414 (OP)
>What are your favorite modern action films?
This isn't quite on topic, but I have an extremely controversial opinion. I think Steven Seagal had some great action scenes back in the 80s and early 90s.
Now, I think he's a piece of shit, a terrible actor and a mediocre martial artist, but I don't think I've ever seen more visceral and impactful fight scenes than in Seagal movies, and I think I know the secret.
I think he doesn't give a shit about injuring the stuntmen. The reason I think he's got good fight scenes, is because he seems to actually hit the villains and goons, and they actually react to being hit or thrown around. They're not acting, they're simply reacting to what he does to them.
In other words, it's not that Seagal is a great martial artist or choreographer, but that he actually hits and throws the stuntmen around, which makes it seem more real, because it kinda is. Of course, the further you get from his early career, the worse he gets, because he was obviously no longer allowed to do that shit when he temporarily made it big.

>>211410788
Out for Justice is good.

>>211410788
You got a few Seagal recs? Give me your top 3 flicks, I enjoy hot takes like these.

>>211410935
>>211410930

Is this Ryan Coogler fella doing a character? No way he sounds that retarded for real, i know he's an american nig but still.

>>211409879
For me it’s Norbit

>>211410935
It's been ages since I watched any of his films, but Out for Justice, Above the Law and maybe Hard to Kill. I guess that's most of his pre-fame movies.
Again, his movies are shit, but his 80s fights scenes are good because he's an asshole. He just doesn't give a shit about injuring stuntmen and being far more physical than any other action "star".

>>211411729
Or giving him the benefit of the doubt, maybe that was just the way it was back then. I remember shitting my pants over some early Jackie Chan flicks because I realized the stunts were a hundred percent real, and anons here confirmed that that was just the way they used to do shit back then; it was lethal if you didn't pull off a stunt right, so it made the films way more impressive for me because of that.

On the topic of this thread, I got round to watching one of those Hong Kong action flicks, and it turns out its utter dogshit for 11 year olds. Huge waste of time. I don't understand what makes men so developmentally stunted to watch these things. I thought it was just mutts being subhuman but this was chinks. I don't know. At least now I know the entire genre just appeals to some cognitive fault in the human male.

>>211411857
t. low test.
Watch some Jackie Chan flicks, start with Police Story.

>>211411857
Name the film.

>>211411966
I like Jackie Chan, I appreciate the acrobatics and choreography of the stunts. I'm talking about mutt gunfights that go on for 20 minutes.

>>211412090
The Killer (1989)

>>211411845
Nah. I love 80s movies, but most of the action stars from that age didn't do those types of action scenes. Even if you go back to the early 70s with Bruce Lee, it's just not the same.
The stunts by the usual guys (Schwarzenegger, Stallone, van Damme, Bruce Lee, Lundgren, Norris, etc) were primarily focused on the star's physical prowess or his ability to do martial arts stunts. Seagal was the opposite. His claim to fame wasn't about doing fancy kicks or being impossibly ripped, but about punching, kicking and throwing people around in the most brutal way possible.
Don't get me wrong, I actually do prefer that type of choreography, and genuinely wish we'd get more of that stuff today, considering we can do that shit today without injuring anyone, but I think he was able to do it back then simply because he didn't care. Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe everything was a result of expert choreography, but given his personality, the period when it was made, and the low-budget movies he was in, I think it was mostly him not giving a shit (and the stuntmen were probably happy to be a part of it).

>>211412151
John Woo abused the slow motion often and over dramatized the gunfights, i understand your complaint, he really was a Peckinpah wannabe often. Watch Tsui Hark's The Blade.

what are the best /film/ approved romance melodrama movies?

>>211412677
Ménilmontant

>>211413071
>>211413094
anything that's not 90 years old?

Was banned for being a big beefy man, Charlotte Ginsberg wasn't me, I found that odd in a way that isn't me. Jumpa and Carax should have known better. Guess Mods don't like big beefy men, though. Anyway, I will watch a kino tonight. La increíble historia del Niño de Piedra is on the menu, Reygadas' producer making a Kid's film. Reminder Baraboo (2009) is a Lynch film. He told me himself.

>>211396547
I have never been big on a better tomorrow.

>>211413348
You were too based for this site, but I don't understand why you didn't evade. Can't reset your router?

>>211413172
filtered, but here

>>211413388
I could have, I just used it as a few days off anyway, I'm old now and my internet usage is sparing. Think the ban expired a few days ago anyway.

>>211413348
>Jumpa and Carax should have known better.
what the hell did I do? I haven't really been posting here the last couple days

>>211413420
supremelemon gave this 3 stars, must be pretty good

>>211413348
>Was banned for being a big beefy man
Proof is in the pudding, bitch

Looks like the gang is all here. I was drinking my wife, sipping and nuzzling that vineyard, when lo my wife's boyfriend walks in. "Aren't they out of town I thought?" He comes up to me, gives me a big hug, and says "Now I know how you feel, she's done the same to me too." I reciprocate his hug, say "Come on you big lug," we plop on the couch hugging and crying with It's Not Time and Suspended Time playing back to back. Is there any other kinos for wonderful moments like this, namely when your wife and her boyfriend bond? I saw all of Carax, Dardennes, Rivette, and Assayas already.

>>211406967
The Counterfeit Coin (1955). That's the one a greek guy recommended to me. It's lighthearted and quaint.

>>211413629
Me and my wife's boyfriend bond* Silly typo, was so overcome with emotion about being understood by Leos Carax that I misspelt it.

Haneke, Leos Carax, Dardennes, Assayas, Rivette, Bresson, Truffaut, Chabrol, Ozon, Tavernier, Kaurismakii, Ken Loach... Now that's real cinema.

>>211413794
No Ken Burns? lol, lmao even

I noticed something very niche in Sonatine upon rewatching it. Would you gentlemen care to know?

>>211413889
Hey Steve. Nice to hear back from you. As for Ken Burns, while he has made many masterpieces. He doesn't scratch my itch, like Leos Carax, Dardennes, Ozon, Tavernier, Assayas, Rivette and other bisexual French filmmakers do. Very few can understand the wonderful bond between a man and a man's wifes' boyfriend. Thanks, looking forward to your response.

>>211413933
Go on...

He doesn't scratch my itch, like Leos Carax, Dumont, Reichardt, Reygadas, Alonso, Eustache, Rohmer, Costa and other bisexual filmmakers do. Very few can understand the wonderful bond between a man and a man's wifes' boyfriend. Thanks, looking forward to your response.

So all of this unfunny shit is what anons here miss as the "good old days"?

>>211407354
Thanks.

>>211414165
B is actually really funny.
Yes.

>>211413455
You fat cunt, you.

He doesn't scratch my itch, like Sono, Sono, Sono, Sono, Sono, Sono, Sono, Sono and other bisexual filmmakers do. Very few can understand the wonderful bond between a man and a man's wifes' boyfriend. Thanks, looking forward to your response.

>>211414165
no. I've always hated bookum and always will. there just used to be actual discussion in between bookum's schizo meltdowns

>>211414165
no. I've always hated Caraxfag and always will. there just used to be actual discussion in between Caraxfag's schizo meltdowns. He's in a wheelchair after all.

>>211414402
So what's the difference, everything's the same.

>>211414038
A bulgarian folk song called kaval sviri plays quietly on and off under hisaishi's music during the sumo scene.
https://youtu.be/9JTtx07oveY?t=80
It starts at 1:20 but you can hear it better around 2:15 onward. Here's the original
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaG1Q4bpVSo
No need to thank me for this truly recondite knowledge. I'm probably the only one to ever notice.

no. I've always hated Sonofan123 and always will. there just used to be actual discussion in between Sonofan123 schizo meltdowns. He's in a diaper after all.

>>211386414 (OP)
Has everyone seen North Of Normal starring Canadian actress Sarah Gadon?

>>211414589
Are you from the balkans?

no. I've always hated Jumpacat and always will. there just used to be actual discussion in between Jumpacat schizo meltdowns. He's in a relationship after all.

>>211414733
Nah from Austria, just like Czech cinema and Balkan folk music. I'm in a wheelchair after-all.

>>211414733
Nope, american.

>>211414831
Fuck off schizo

>>211414863
Fuck off schizo, I'm from Austria and am in a wheelchair, not some burger subhuman. Go watch Nolan with chimchangas and potato salad and stop posting here.

no. I've always hated lil timmy and always will. there just used to be actual discussion in between lil timmy schizo meltdowns. He has an asian wife after sll

>>211414903
M8 don't know what ur on about, buit Nolan makes kino and I'm a proud American. USA USA USA, no need for Muslim folk music in my 4chan Thread. USA USA USA.

Thanks B for accelerating the thread, I'll finally bake after a week of waiting around.

>>211414955
Go bag to /fag/ and /retard/ it is more your speed. I'm in a wheelchair which is faster than you running after all. No wonder you can't think straight, my wheelchair has put me into hyper speed after all.

>>211415014
Make it Sarah Gadon themed

I see I picked a bad time to actually discuss movies. Oh well

>>211415018
M8 I'm a proud American, I am in a wheel chair too. I eat chimichangas, Hot dogs, fried Pop tarts, and dog shit. Don't be postin' your Terrorist Music in my chat or your gonna have a problem with Mr. Right and Mr. Left. Ya Feel me? I'm just big and beefy and happened to shit my pants, so I'm gonna let it sit, wipe it, then be back and I hope your ass is gone.

>>211414903
I ain't never heard about no Austrian in a wheelchair. Hitler, Schwarzenegger, Mozart... no wheelchair in sight.

>>211415079
Buddy, you sound like a russian to me.

seanponies?

>>211415808
It's over.

>>211414589
Based. Somewhat similarly, I stumbled across the source for some of the chanting in Kids Return by pure chance a few years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEQnthHK4nk&list=RDvEQnthHK4nk&start_radio=1

Painfully unfunny, painfully unfunny.

It's all fun and jokes on /film/.

No joking under my watch and I mean it.

>>211415997
Um, >>211416269 >>211416400 >>211416531 ?

Wagonmaster?

>>211416936
All me.

Start the oven...

My wife

>>211417170
Me?

>>211417100
Mutant bake or succulent bake?

>>211417186
A succulent Chinese thread.

Make it pumpkin delights

the lion doesn't concern himself with the suggestion of sheeps

Make it a Brian Wilson bake

seanpony bakeblock

chompony stop chomping the chickens

next

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