.

>>211393679 (OP)
why does he keep filming like this?

>>211393724
Look at her go! What's this from?

>>211393724
flying will never look good in live action, it's impossible.

>>211394576
It looked good in Man of Steel

>>211394576
>When you eat all dose wings and da fart hits

ahead of his time

>>211394576
You don't have to do these embarassing front shots.

Black Adam chads, they're talking smack about us!

>>211394885
2025 is gonna be his year, calling it

>>211394919
We disagree on that

>>211393716
all indians

>>211394885

>>211393679 (OP)
How come only Snyder got it right?

>>211394576
It worked with Reeve, but that was mainly due to him looking like an Ubermensch

>>211395582
So obviously, you've never seen the movie. Otherwise, you would know that shot is not in the movie.

It was used for promotional material only. Donner never used a shot like that in the movie because even back in 1978, he recognized that shooting Superman flying straight towards the camera in the center of the frame would look too goofy. The movie largely shows Superman from an angle. The only time they center the camera for Superman's flight is the legendary scream scene, which makes sense since it's supposed to be jarring.

>>211393724
>>211394576
Visual fx in the prequel weren't half-bad really. What the hell happened here

>>211393754
Wandavision

>>211393724
>>211394576
dey fly now?

>>211395582
and not using fish eye lens that make things look goofy and people look walleyed. which in Gunn's case, is done on purpose for irony, subversion and unfunny comic effect.

>>211395799
That's from Superman IV, which notoriously had less money than your crackwhore mom

>>211395746
Time

Captain Marvel came out in 2019, for some reason it feels like every movie that came out after 2020 has way worse CGI

>>211395823
That's because it is worse. They're using CGI so much for corner cutting that the overall product has degraded. They don't build sets, they don't shoot on location, just green screen everything then dump it all into the computer. Pic related. Why couldn't this scene be practical?

>>211395848
Benefit of having glasses

>>211395848
>>211395910
It's the angle too, arms stretched back, chest out, chin up. It would look goofy in person but creates an excellent headshot. Someone knew what they were doing when they shot the it.

>>211395871
This.

I don't think people realize just how much corner cutting is being done in a lot of these movies. Which is especially hilarious considering how studios are trying to do their damnedest to essentially eliminate all traces of VFX artist work in their behind the scenes shoots.
For instance, throughout the behind the scenes of Top Gun: Maverick, they tried to act like all of their shots were completely done practically, when that couldn't have been further from the truth. There are dozens of minutes in Top Gun: Maverick where the aircraft and landscape are purely CG.

But, the reason the movie looks so good is because they did use a lot of practical effects. And that seriously helps the effects artists when they're trying to match references.
All of the other Hollywood tentpoles, especially Marvel and DC films, fail to do this. Some of it is understandable. How the fuck else are you going to pit two super beings against each other while they're fighting in some kind of cosmic void or something? You're going to have to use VFX.

But even simple shots where people are just talking have to have VFX done for them. It's obscene. And naturally, no matter how much money you throw at the artists, they simply do not have the time to tackle all of this shit. And studios know time is money. So they're not going to spend multiple years on post-production. Get it done fast, good and cheaply. And if you know anything about reality, doing all three of those things is impossible. Best case scenario is that you got to choose two.

>>211393679 (OP)
Me when she says she doesn't shave.

>>211395871
Wow. And he's just in a room

>>211393724
Dey hea

>>211395982
Eh, Neo flying was heavily mocked forever

>>211395137
lol

>>211393679 (OP)
imagine all bugs squished on face, birds even

>>211396626
What do you ride?

>>211394576
looked good in Iron Man https://youtu.be/PvYhZT99g1s

>>211397180
damn, still funny...guess that's soul for ya

>>211397180
What fucking point did the suits start looking so obviously fake? They look great here.

>>211397180
The good old days, before all the nanotech bullshit.

>>211393724
We wuz

>>211397224
around Avengers or so, they look good in the other Iron Man movies

>>211395982
No I actually think it's because you're a faggot that thinks Matrix slop looks good.

>>211397180
>looks good
Saar, saar, is it real saar?
The director of rocketeer worked on the early mcu slop, thats why it looks passable. rocketeer was the original

>>211397470
and you couldn't type that without the indian memery or something?

>>211393679 (OP)
I like how this looks. DPs misuse wide-angle lenses all the time but this is not one of those times.

>>211394576

>>211397240
Yeah cause it used to be a semi-real costume until they made it all CGI.

>>211397470
you think it was funny?

>>211394885
>>211395137
SOVL

>>211395871
It's the fucking gun that gets me. They can't even give him a real prop?

>>211393679 (OP)
There is a new Chanel Awesome special?

>>211395871
nah they build tons of sets, you can cherrypick a lot of images but every MCU movie also has a lot of real sets and props. Many do get replaced but still, they're there. It's not as bad as the Hobbit

>>211394576
All capeshit shit looks fucking stupid if you're not a tasteless unironic manchild.

>>211398268
enjoy your gaming

>>211395871
If they relied on VFX to that extent before AI, they will get rid actors altogether at some point

>>211398078
Might confuse it for a real gun and shoot the camerawoman

He Monke

>>211395871
iirc he couldn't be in the room with holland due to scheduling. that doesn't excuse the set and props being cgi though

>>211397224
everything from captain america civil war, onwards. avengers age of ultron is the last appearance where an iron man suit looks real.

>>211393700
It's nu directors' attempt appeal to gen z tik tok audience.

>>211393724
>>211394576
>OOOOOOOOOOH LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD

Lex Luthor as a villain has always been lame and boring and this looks more of the same.

>>211393679 (OP)
>when you tap the aquarium glass

>>211393724
When he pulls out the HDMI cable

>>211393679 (OP)

>>211393724

>>211393724
Black girl magic.

>>211395871
>Why couldn't this scene be practical?

Because saars need their cut.

>>211393716
How do you even manage to pay attention to that?

>>211399207

>>211394944
is he not the one the blew his own head off with a shotgun?

>>211399421
why THE FUCK did he do it? what the fuck kind of low form of humanity inhabits that country?

meh

>>211399495
you're talking about nerdrotic

>>211395582
I'm watching through some clips of him flying in the movies, and while a lot of the green screen shots look awkward or dated, there's a surprising amount of decent scenes, and even ones where they clearly used practical effects. The ones where he's landing are particularly good, but some of the green screen flybys are also pretty good.
Man, Reeve did some heavy lifting in those movies though, with his looks and charisma carrying them, along with the theme by John Williams.

>>211397180
looks like shit at 60fps

>>211399584
That's the closest thing I've seen to good choreography in Star Wars. It's odd how it was so poorly done in the movie itself.

>>211399500
What did he do?

>>211395582
They also used a 50mm camera for that, all the other scenes use extreme wide angles for some retarded reason.

>>211399737
Gave all the needful love to his grandpa.

>>211399677
This is because Lucas decided last minute he wanted Sheevs actor to do the scene and not the stuntman.

>Can I fly with you guys?

>>211393679 (OP)
SOVL

>>211393679 (OP)
It stinks

>>211399737
That image is from an indian guy raping his own grandpa

>>211400124
Aw fuck, I didn't know that

>>211399584
just stop spamming the fucking spinning shit, it looks retarded. come up with a variety of ways to reset for the next sequence you fucking retard.

>>211397180
Iron Man's a little different because it's a suit and you can see the propulsion and get a sense of speed and movement. A person just floating around works in cartoons but you need some sense of feedback to the movement in live action.

>>211400144
Yeah i'm pretty sure he's in jail for a long time now.
He apparently sent the video of him raping his grandpa to his own family like a retard, and everyone inmediately disowned him and called the police on him.

>>211400679
Imagine your son rapes your own father.
I'd probably kill him myself.

>>211400679
please tell me where i can read more about the story, the video's the only thing i've seen and not knowing more about what happened is driving me up the wall.

>>211400792
I can't, rape is genuinely so common in India that the story of the video doesn't fucking appear, it's fucking insane.

Like, there's a story of a Dalit(the low class caste) woman claiming to have been raped 64 times by different men throughout the past 5 years, what the fuck.

>>211400679
Why would he think anyone would find this funny? It's the worst prank possible. Then putting it on the internet to cement your legacy as the man the raped your own grandfather is possibly even more stupid.

>>211400960
>Raped so much you average more than once a month over 5 years

>>211395986
I bet this is all somehow related to big studios angling for AI generated video to replace CG artists. You can't have a computer build a physical set, but (they believe) you'll someday soon be ale to have a computer build a digital set. In reality, I think this approach will continue to fail just like self driving cars. It'll take at least a decade of continuous failures for big studios to start to pivot away.

>>211394576
It's not that complicated: you copy the movements of a jet plane of a missile.

https://youtu.be/IYdg1Y8S0N0

>>211399584
literally the only good thing about this is 0:10 with how aggressive Sheev moves, reinforcing the idea that sith will use their force skills for a bloodthirsty attack without second thought. a clear distinction from the defensive and passive jedi way of fighting.

everything else is just show dancing, and not what lightsaber duels are about at all.

>capeshit is corny
wow stop the presses

I always liked the flying sequences in Hancock.

>>211401113
I love smallville but that side shot of him is hilariously bad.

>>211393679 (OP)
i dont get it, why is a bad thing

>>211394576
for what its worth, i think it looked great in man of steel

>>211395137
I fucking loved Doug’s black friend.

>>211395582
Oliver Harper said it best, Reeves looked great flying because he showed it as natural as taking a swim in the water. Very gently turning and effortless. Modern flying sequences make it look painful

>>211395137
I'm not being sarcastic when I say that Linkara's running mogs the Flash's.

>>211399584
Gotta appreciate how much personality he puts in his body language.

>>211399584
if they didnt spin so much it would be amazing

>>211395871
This kind of shit is different and comes from nitpicking by money-men who always want options to tinker with the details until the last fucking day before release.
Use as many placeholders as possible (phones, weapons, backgrounds etc) so you can run your statistical models to determine what will let you extract as much money as possible. For example, in a scene where a character takes a phone call, just have them hold a featureless black square, and then you can use CGI to turn it into whichever phone model you need based on some advertising deal you made with a phone brand. Or change the scene background to include some meme poster based on whatever is popular with normies at the time of release.

>>211397180
>60fps
What modern day video game slop trailer is this?

>>211395784
Dey fly now.
Man I hate nu wars

>>211395137
Who wins in a fight?

>>211397224
It looks great here because the suit is real, they had all kinds of actual shit and they just used CGI to touch it up and improve upon it. If you look at the behind the scenes they've also built actual sets.

>>211393679 (OP)
Why does this kind of shot trigger incels so hard?

>>211402749
Spoony > Doug's black friend > Doug > whoever bottom right is > the world's weakest, smallest ant > Linkara

>>211399466
self loathing
i'd bet most of them have strabismus too
makes it lot easier to notice it on others

>>211403270
Same reason it triggers everybody else, it looks retarded

>>211397180
i love how they werent afraid to make it realistic, there are no fake floating light lighting up the suit, its dark, and not even visible in many scenes
modern marvel would set the scene in mid day, on an empty airfield

>>211397224
when they stopped building real suits for lighting references
sure he was only wearing half a one in that scene, with his arm and leg exposed, but it was enough for the cgi people to know how its supposed to look

>>211394576
Well this creature is just a bad actress making retarded “I’m acting” faces. Man of Steel looked pretty cool.

>>211393679 (OP)
>this will show audiences our flying scenes are good

>>211398738
>actors can’t even be in the same room and act together
then don’t make the fucking movie

>>211395137
these 4 unironically look better than the op Hollywood pics

>>211394811
this
>>211394576
Hollywood (lately) has been making the mistake of trying to "take the audience" on the flight and make it seem so wondrous and epic or whatever. What they should be doing is portraying it in a toned-down light, much more natural and gritty. MoS did it right, as did Chronicle. Handheld distant cameras that imitate cellphone footage are the best way to go because this lets the flight stand on its own against the other-realistic scene. Flight is already exciting; adding all this pov wide-angle bullshit is just distracting and undermines it.

>>211399894
>They also used a 50mm camera for that
Looks longer than 50mm. It has to be at least 70mm.

>>211395871
They don't do that to cut corners and save money. They do that so that they can make like 5 or 6 different backgrounds for a single scene so that they can see which one goes over best with test audiences.

>>211398121
You cherry-picked the one set they had. The Hobbit was filmed in grassy fields half the time ffs.

>>211395848
>Just one big burst of genius over the span of a few years, then an epic flaming and trooning out.

The Wachowskis will be studied for years to come.

>>211393724
Still yet to find an explanation of how this looks bad.

How come nobody has posted Man of Steel?

>>211393679 (OP)
The Superman one wouldn’t be so bad if he didn’t have a lazy eye.

Black Adam looked awful. Especially the weird stretching thing they did.

How come Superman don't look like this no mo?

>>211395137
I have seen this thousands of times, but I still don't know what it's from.

>>211393724
>>211394576
I've seen tiktok do better

>>211401321
>everything else is just show dancing, and not what lightsaber duels are about at all.
We get it, you're a dweeb who hates anything fun and cool.

>>211395799
I cannot image the person that took the time to make this.

>>211402079
A whole lot of wasted money for shit most people don't care about.

>>211399584
While this is probably the best choreographed fight scene in Star Wars (even if it's just practice), I wonder why they don't have fights that are more visceral and physical than this. Sure, if you've got two unarmored stuntmen or actors waving fake swords around, I suppose you have to go with the faggy ballerina dance, but if you've got two armored dudes, which isn't hard to do in a Star Wars setting, you could let those guys loose. You know, let them put weight behind their blows instead of having them dance around like some fucking fairies.

>>211408533
Mega64

>>211399584
>that twirl they both do at 00:19

>>211393700
becuae hes a pedo

>>211395686
he kinda does it here

>>211393679 (OP)
This shit looks like typical AI-originated retarded camera movement. They did use AI for it, didnt they?

>>211395871
I do remember there was an actual reason to cgi it. Like it was more practical to cgi it than cut out a practical gun

>>211395582
Insane how the pose alone makes flying look so much better. Human bullet mode in newer films just looks stupid and makes it more obvious the actor is literally just standing there while looking up. Reeves had a whole wire rig allowing full movement.

>>211393679 (OP)
What's the top one from?

>>211399665
everything looks like shit at 60fps
for some reason

>>211408877
why this jeeta is flying from Spain?

Movies still haven't figured out how to do supernatural action well.

>>211393716
I really don't see a problem with his eyes

>>211411684
this

>>211398121
Genuinely depends on the director. Gunn is one of the ones that manages to plan out practical vs CG shots ahead of time, so there's a decent blend.

>>211412505
Guardians

>>211415752
zoomers and poos think if you're not looking directly at the lens that you have walleye
that said, shots are claustrophobic

>>211393724
YouTube angry reviewer level of effects here. These jews launder so much money with these shit excuses of so called cinema.

>>211394885
Is it his year yet?

>>211393679 (OP)

>>211411948
Nah, Gunn is just a really shitty director.

>>211395137
I miss these niggas like you wouldn't believe.

>>211401410
It was a CW show. They do the best they can with what they've got. And honestly, it's usually pretty decent.

>>211394885
>how to fly like a gigachad

>>211404175
to be fair that worked to its advantage.
even back then we knew every awesome scene happened at night because the darkness helped mask the lighting issues and hid any poor polygon issues or whatever.

in retrospect despite tech being worse it still LOOKS better because oh yeah it meant they actually had to TRY and light the scene well.
and if they didn't they ended up looking like those early live action transformer movie fights

>>211395137
Linkara's superspeed run is kino

>>211408877
First woman to shit on the moon.

>>211404512
This. You want to see the flight from an observer perspective, that's what creates awe. It's kind of like porn where I've grown weary of everything being zoomed in right on genitalia. You enjoy the action more of the camera perspective is from a distant at times. That will give the whole "open-the-door-and-walk-in-seeing-people-have-sex"-perspective. The zoomed in thing is more "POV: you're hamster standing a few inches from teo gargantuan genitals procreating"

>>211411948
>shoulder takes up 90% of the screen
How did this get approved?

>>211393724
Is she flying to the hospital? She looks like she's having contractions

>>211394576
plonked

>>211395871
Jackson probably had a scheduling conflict, or this was a pick up shot added later, so a splinter unit showed at his house with a green screen, his costume, a chair, and a that shitty stand-in gun thing because they didn't want to pay for an armorer and prop master to be present as they would be required if using a replica.

>>211393716
The emoji one is hilarious

>>211393679 (OP)
We are Super

>>211393679 (OP)
>ruins your kinografi

>>211404949
It's literally just gooning too hard

>>211408877
HOW HOW DID SHE DO IT WOWWW!!!

>>211408533
a different time. things were fun back then.

>>211395871
This is why Farscape looks better than any marvel movie

>>211399584
Kino overload

kino..

>>211411948
Can't say for sure but your claim isn't out of the realm of possibility, they probably used a digital scan at leaset

>>211404512
>chronicle

Still probably the best "super powers" movie

Gunn has never been about muh realism or making shit look edgy. Why he is the perfect director to direct the least edgy superhero ever. I suspect most of you bitching don’t even like Superman and just Snyder fans.

>>211393679 (OP)

>>211393716
>Here's your cross-eyed Jewish superman, goy

>>211395137
The joke doesn't work because they're ugly losers, only thing to laugh is at them not the effect
>>211395582

someone post the jimmy carr edit

>>211404861
>the hobbit
>mcu

>>211393679 (OP)
Camera is too close. Has flying ever looked good in live action?

>>211397180
crazy how a movie like this just can't be made anymore

>>211395582
superMAN

>>211393679 (OP)
superBOY

>>211396470
Not because the flying pose itself or angle looks bad

>>211407879
WB are just not hiring the right actors. Before they cast Reeve they went through so many actors, hairdressers, friends and assistants. It was hilarious. Thank Donner for finding Reeve.
https://youtu.be/M6fhyw4alrw?si=rnWIoJwSIdnyiEQ-&t=3118

>>211430715

>>211412653
its different if the source material is actually 60 fps
interpolation is only so good

>>211430576
>Has flying ever looked good in live action?
Smallville was pretty good but only from season 4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRbk8D3BEaM

>>211431166
That's a lot better than the OP. The fish eye lens definitely makes it look 200% more retarded

>>211421682
People want to feel like they’re flying like Superman hence POV shot. You had wide shots with Chris Reeve movies because they didn’t have the FX yet and had use to use him hanging off wires with a moving backdrop. Just seeing a wide shot of Superman flying is not going to get people excited especially younger people who play interactive POV games. I agree some of the fishbowl shots are weird

>flying kino doesn't exi-

>>211431166
It wasn’t that good. He barely moved and you could tell he was just hanging off wires in front of a blue screen but pretty good for TV

>>211395582
Decades old movie, yet to be topped

>>211431299
Revisionist history. Neo flying was heavily mocked. Only part people liked was his take off

>>211431419
Yeah no shit that's the end of the first one where that's all the flying he does and it was kino.

>>211431258
The Reeve movies also had behind the cape shots that worked similar to POV, too.

>>211431470
Those where best shots especially during Earthquake scenes

>>211431360
>>211431228
All they need to do is emulate Reeve's flying. The actor needs to be confident and think it's natural, effortless. Must use his arms as a steering wheel. Also must to be practical, when it's all CG you can tell and takes you out of the movie/show. And no fish eye lenses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wdeie2r-fLg

I’m guessing they use the close up shots to show it’s the actor and not a CGI stand in.

>>211431624
> Must use his arms as a steering wheel.

They only did that to sell he’s flying in front of a moving backdrop. Did that with 50s Superman TV show when FX was even more limited. Superman doesn’t always fly with his arms straight out like he’s doing the breast stroke. In comics only time he had his arm out is when he was doing the Superman pose

>>211431925
I'm not saying all the time. Just for some scenes where it is needed. Like turning or taking a hard left or right, dipping down under a bridge and flying up again. If his arms are always back beside him then it still gives the impression the actor is behind a green screen.

Stop, my invisible son

>>211431624
The scenes where he's landing still look really good

>>211399466
>>211403342
why? sounds like you're hurt, nobody in my family has this, most people around me don't have it, that's why it's so odd that so many hollywood actors have lazy eyes, it's distracting.

>>211430576
man of steel and matrix 3 had very similar flight fights like DBZ, not sure if that's good, but I liked it.