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Anonymous No.211394170 >>211394184 >>211394203 >>211394205 >>211394214 >>211394242 >>211394277 >>211394291 >>211394372 >>211394383 >>211394814 >>211396734 >>211396863 >>211396999 >>211397019 >>211397737 >>211397740 >>211397872 >>211398005 >>211398134 >>211398659 >>211399132 >>211405728
Superior to the first movie in every way
Anonymous No.211394184
>>211394170 (OP)
Why does he speak spanish?
Anonymous No.211394203 >>211394225 >>211394457 >>211397872 >>211398059 >>211398862 >>211398943
>>211394170 (OP)
nah, the first movie is genuinely brilliantly shot
Anonymous No.211394205 >>211400571
>>211394170 (OP)
Superior to every action movie before or after. Terminator 2 is the full package for action movies. It’s perfect.
Anonymous No.211394214
>>211394170 (OP)
Correct
Anonymous No.211394225 >>211398059
>>211394203
>I’m in a bar called Tech Noir
Anonymous No.211394231 >>211394627 >>211395381 >>211408918
Brad Fiedel's score for Terminator 2 literally RUINED the film. Absolutely ATROCIOUS. And anyone who disagrees is a fucking MORON.
Anonymous No.211394242
>>211394170 (OP)
terminator? more like kinonator
Anonymous No.211394277 >>211394314 >>211394386 >>211397883 >>211398880
>>211394170 (OP)
How fair is it to compare movies made more than 10 years apart? With vastly different budgets? They’re both as good as their circumstances allowed them to be.

Now Alien and Aliens…
Anonymous No.211394291
>>211394170 (OP)
No.
Anonymous No.211394314 >>211394864 >>211396927 >>211407886
>>211394277
I beat off to Ripley in Aliens, and it wasn’t until years later I found out he was a man.
Anonymous No.211394372
>>211394170 (OP)
It's not a superior horror film thoughbeit.
Anonymous No.211394383
>>211394170 (OP)
wrong
Anonymous No.211394386 >>211397270
>>211394277
aliens is garbage
Anonymous No.211394457 >>211394611 >>211394770 >>211394824 >>211398913
>>211394203
Mos def. Love the subtle Frankenstein reference here with the neon
Anonymous No.211394494
nah the part where the terminator is mowing people down in the future with his glowing red eyes mogs the entirety of t2
Anonymous No.211394611 >>211394712
>>211394457
Frankenstein reference?
Anonymous No.211394627
>>211394231
Why do you keep spamming this!
Anonymous No.211394712 >>211394770
>>211394611
Frankenstein was animated through electricity run through his neck terminals. The wall/head imagery is suggests Frankenstein or at the very least, an artificial animating force.
Art is subjective but they didn’t create that prop and film it that way for no reason.
Anonymous No.211394770 >>211397345 >>211397760
>>211394457
>>211394712
Extreme reach
Anonymous No.211394814
>>211394170 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpMg1upld0w
T1 has much better pacing.
Anonymous No.211394824
>>211394457
And be arrived and died with a big electrical bolt. Interesting. Never got the Frankenstein reference
Anonymous No.211394864
>>211394314
You sure it wasn’t Alien? There was no fan service in Aliens.
Anonymous No.211395381
>>211394231
weak b8
Anonymous No.211396107 >>211396990 >>211398963
Anonymous No.211396734 >>211399075 >>211403037
>>211394170 (OP)
My wife prefers 1 because of the romance aspect, which is understandable if you’re a woman ig. As far as action, characterization, effects, and plot go 2 pretty much blows it out of the water.
Obviously the original is still great but it doesn’t get much better than T2
Anonymous No.211396863
>>211394170 (OP)
John Connor was cute and he wasn't in the first movie.
Anonymous No.211396927 >>211399576
>>211394314
The fuck are you talking about? Sigourney Weaver is a woman.
Anonymous No.211396990
>>211396107
I wish movies still did obscured shit like this and used practical effects.
Anonymous No.211396999
>>211394170 (OP)
Kino
Anonymous No.211397019 >>211397938 >>211398134
>>211394170 (OP)
Except plot, characters, music, cinematography, direction...
>muh action scenes
They are literally just bigger and louder, even action scenes in the first one are better. They are more tense, better shot, the stakes are much higher.
Anonymous No.211397270
>>211394386
kys
Anonymous No.211397343
T2 was too hollywood for my liking, T1 was cinema.
Anonymous No.211397345 >>211408382
>>211394770
>ah yeah dude lets just put that neon thing there and have the camera point at arnold standing exactly in front of it just because.... yeah
ngmi
Anonymous No.211397529
Terminator 1 would be over in 2 minutes if Kyle Reese had used shotgun slug.
Anonymous No.211397693 >>211408578
>T1
>onions adventure horror
>terminator is gumby
>terminator is literally Michael Myers
>reflection on saving Palestine
>T2
>all American family values
>reflection on how technology might not be a good thing
>Robert Patrick kino
>Guns and Roses kino
>minigun scene
>grenade launcher scene
>most iconic death scene for hero and villain of the 90s
Anonymous No.211397737
>>211394170 (OP)
Pretty sure the song playing in Tech Noir is a reference to the nuclear war Skynet causes.
Tahnee Cain & The Tryanglz - Burnin' In The Third Degree
>you’ve got me burning
>you’ve got me burning
>in the thirrrrrd degreeee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdcbhPWpPLc
Anonymouṡ No.211397740 >>211397829 >>211397923 >>211398134 >>211398289
>>211394170 (OP)

T1 Linda > T2 Linda.

T1: Scared but brave, gutsy but feminine. Canonically fertile.
T2: Tryhard roided-up macho bull dyke. Probably has shrivelled ovaries.
Anonymous No.211397760
>>211394770
nah cameron is turbo autistic
Anonymous No.211397829 >>211397841 >>211397974
>>211397740
Awful hair
Anonymous No.211397841
>>211397829
you got a real attitude problem
Anonymous No.211397872
>>211394170 (OP)
Facts, although the first movie is still brilliant

>>211394203
Both were shot by Adam Greenberg
Anonymous No.211397883
>>211394277
T1 and T2 are 7 years apart
Anonymous No.211397923 >>211399037
>>211397740
I really like the hospital escape when she sees the t-800 again and goes from epic girlboss to the scared normal girl in T1.
Anonymous No.211397938
>>211397019
>Except plot, characters, music, cinematography, direction...
All of those are vastly superior in the sequel nigger
Anonymous No.211397974
>>211397829
Yeah when I first saw the hair I reached for the remote to press back, but successfully resisted.
Anonymous No.211398005
>>211394170 (OP)
Anonymous No.211398059
>>211394203
>>211394225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IPBgUKGdYk
Anonymous No.211398134 >>211399187
>>211394170 (OP)
Arnold in T1 - terrifying murder machine, focused only on his target, Sarah Connor is protected by human, so main theme of franchise (man vs machine) is strongly emphasized in movie.
Arnold in T2 - big toy for a little kid, making jokes and poses on command, fights even better robokiller cause humans are useless.
Big improvement!
Also
>>211397019
>>211397740
Anonymouṡ No.211398289
>>211397740
Another thing that T1 did better than T2: the last line(s) of dialogue.

T1: "What did he just say?" — "He said there's a storm coming in." — "I know."
COOL, FOREBODING, SIGNALLING SARAH ACCEPTING HER NEW RESPONSIBILITY

T2: "Because if a machine — a terminator — can learn the value of human life . . . maybe we can too."
OK, I GUESS, BUT A BIT PREACHY
CreepyThinMan No.211398659
>>211394170 (OP)

Greatest cinematic experience of my life and has my second favorite music video ever, after Thriller.... https://youtu.be/MXx9S2nDouY?si=DrgzR_xrkvjnO4h4

But I prefer the first more these days because it leans further into Horror!!!FACT!!!
Anonymous No.211398685
>Arnold in T1 - terrifying murder machine, focused only on his target, Sarah Connor is protected by human, so main theme of franchise (man vs machine) is strongly emphasized in movie.
CreepyThinMan No.211398862
>>211394203
>nah, the first movie is genuinely brilliantly shot

Both movies had Adam Greenberg as their cinematographer while he used spherical lenses and shot in 1:85:1:

QUOTE: The 1.85:1 aspect ratio, also known as "Flat" or "American Flat," is a standard widescreen format in cinema and television. It's achieved by using spherical lenses, which are regular, non-anamorphic lenses. Spherical lenses are used to capture the image, and then the final aspect ratio is achieved either through masking in the camera or in post-production when the image is presented on screen.

This format has a somewhat grainy texture to the image and gives it a bit more grit and atmosphere. It's the same format used for Return of the Living Dead that I like to bring up as both The Terminator and ROTLD were both produced through Helmdale Films, with John Daly and Derek Gibson as Executive Producers and Orion Pictures distributing both of them.

Also;

Stanzi Stokes was the casting Director for both T1 and ROTLD
The electrical lightning effects used at the beginning of T1 when the Terminator appears were re-used for the lightning storm in ROTLD.

Then there's the connections between Dan O'Bannon and James Cameron as O'Bannon wrote Alien to which Cameron then did Aliens.

Anywho, for T2 Greenberg used anamorphic lenses with a 2:39:1 aspect ration which is why it has a much more clean and sharper image and kinda detracts the more Horror related moments and doesn't give the sort of haunting visual quality T1 had, especially in the future war scenes compared to T2 which are much more crisp and don't feel as nightmarish as they did in the first!!!FACT!!!
CreepyThinMan No.211398880 >>211399418 >>211399564
>>211394277
>Now Alien and Aliens…

Alien for the Horror, Aliens for the action. Both are great in their own ways and only contrarian asswipes say otherwise!!!FACT!!!
Anonymous No.211398900
>great movie vs great movie
damn
CreepyThinMan No.211398913
>>211394457
>Mos def. Love the subtle Frankenstein reference here with the neon

Glad I'm not the only one who noticed!!!FACT!!!
Anonymous No.211398943 >>211398975
>>211394203
Why not both.
Anonymous No.211398963 >>211399009
>>211396107
I always liked that scene.
Anonymous No.211398975
>>211398943
that shit looks like Gumby lmao
that's your Micheal Myers esque no jump scare bone chilling villian?
Anonymous No.211399009
>>211398963
Anonymous No.211399037
>>211397923
That was really good and pretty realistic.
Anonymous No.211399075 >>211399112 >>211403650
>>211396734
I prefer the original for the horror aspect. But I acknowledge that the sequel is the superior movie in every other conceivable way. If I could make any change, I'd actually have Arnold killing the bikers at the start instead of just tossing them around. Can't have the good guy killing innocents though, apparently.
Anonymous No.211399112
>>211399075
He causes serious injury and instills extreme fear in them, which is kinda cooler than just a straight up boring massacre. A lot of them will be mentally fucked up for years to come.
Anonymous No.211399132 >>211399149 >>211399160
>>211394170 (OP)
Nah, its just a soulful unnecessary sequel. First movie is the best, because it feels like a b movie but with a AAA budget
Anonymous No.211399149 >>211399160
>>211399132
Also, do yourselves a favour and watch the 35mm version of both movies. Its probably the best way to see terminator 1+2
Anonymous No.211399160 >>211399261
>>211399132
All things considered, how many movies have started as some b-movie and ended up with a blockbuster level sequel? This is the only time that comes to mind.

>>211399149
>35mm version of both movies
Unfathomably based. Same for Jurassic Park 1.
Anonymous No.211399170 >>211399436
Anonymous No.211399187
>>211398134
this. 1 is better because there's no stupid kid the entire movie
>aw gee whiz terminator you can't kill him!
Anonymous No.211399198
The first one had a gritty horror to it that I don't see anywhere else

Second one is more of an action flick. Still good though
Anonymous No.211399203 >>211399210
Terminator 2 is like a redditified version of the first movie, it's proto-capeshot whoch is why reddit loves it so much
Anonymous No.211399210 >>211408926
>>211399203
Nah, that's Terminator 3 and all that came after it. T2 was just right.
Anonymous No.211399225 >>211399253
Who's laughing now.
Anonymous No.211399253
>>211399225
It's depressing that Ridley Scott is such a hack now and is going full George Lucas with his old movies.
Anonymouṡ No.211399261 >>211399293
>>211399160
>All things considered, how many movies have started as some b-movie and ended up with a blockbuster level sequel? This is the only time that comes to mind.

Not quite the same, because the sequel wasn't good / wildly successful, but

Evil Dead: budget $375K
Evil Dead 2: budget £3.5 million

A tenfold increase in budget because of an unexpected hit.

Friday 13th similar (first one didn't cost much, made a bunch, so they spend loads on the next one)
Anonymous No.211399283 >>211399309
T2
Aliens
Godfather Part 2
Twin Peaks The Return
Pawoqaatsi
Dune Part 2
Revenge of the Fallen
Attack of the Clones
Kill Bill Vol 2
Am i forgetting anything
Anonymous No.211399293 >>211399386 >>211399474
>>211399261
Well, I meant more about being a wildly successful blockbuster. No argument about Evil Dead 2 being much more popular and profitable than its first one, but it was still a more cult film than being #1 at the box office like T2 was. I'd honestly love to know if any others reach heights like T2 but I genuinely can't think of any.
Anonymous No.211399309
>>211399283
>he thinks The Godfather, Alien and Twin Peaks weren't as massive or as popular as their sequels
anon...
Anonymous No.211399333 >>211399469
>Superior to the first movie in every way
Anonymouṡ No.211399386 >>211399528
>>211399293
Silence of the Lambs was much bigger than Manhunter, if you count it as a sequel.

Rambo was much bigger than First Blood. (But First Blood was ten times better.)
Anonymous No.211399418
>>211398880
alien is full and boring
CreepyThinMan No.211399436
>>211399170

That bottle is the true hero!!!FACT!!!
CreepyThinMan No.211399469
>>211399333

Pasta lasagna baby!!!FACT!!!
Anonymouṡ No.211399474
>>211399293
The Good, The Bad and the Ugly was the third in the trilogy. It earned a lot more than the other two and was the one that made Clint Eastwood a superstar.
Anonymous No.211399528
>>211399386
love manhunter, first blood and the first terminator movie better than the movies that followed
Anonymous No.211399546
Anonymous No.211399564 >>211399590
>>211398880
>Alien for the Horror
then how come its not scary or tense?
Anonymous No.211399576
>>211396927
xe does not even pass...
Anonymous No.211399590 >>211399672
>>211399564
Okay Jonesy.
Anonymous No.211399637 >>211401487
I like the first more. But both are good movies in their own right. Feel the same way about Alien and Aliens. The genres just shifted a bit, but they were still good movies. Different isn't always bad.
Anonymous No.211399672
>>211399590
the cat bit was the only good scene of the film. the rest was so boring it was hard to sit through
Anonymous No.211400571
>>211394205
>Superior to every action movie before or after.
Sully typed this post
Commando is the best action movie
Anonymous No.211400942
Anonymous No.211401487
>>211399637
This.
Anonymous No.211403037 >>211403333
>>211396734
The first one was a straight-up horror film and because of the limitations they had to work with it has atmosphere out the ass.

The second one is where the Hollywoodization of Terminator began and while it's still a decent flick, plot-wise it's pretty inferior to the original not to mention it's directly responsible for introducing all the timeline fuckery that ruined future Terminator media.
Anonymous No.211403333 >>211403601
>>211403037
T2 is still awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhL8WlDHKaY
Anonymous No.211403601
>>211403333
The digits Galleria?
Anonymous No.211403650
>>211399075
>But I acknowledge that the sequel is the superior movie in every other conceivable wa
>dumb story that adds in all the time travel paradox bullshit that wasn't present in the first one
>preachy fucking narratives
>shit script
>kid
T2 is the most overrated Cameron movie outside of Titanic (I don't rate Abatap because nobody outside a few idiots rate those).
Anonymous No.211405234
its inferior in every possible way but effects and scope. its the same movie, but worse. only nostalgia goggle faggots will say otherwise.
Anonymous No.211405728
>>211394170 (OP)
except atmosphere and horror and story
Anonymous No.211407886
>>211394314
Was this you?
Anonymous No.211408382
>>211397345
So they were autistic enough to do all that but didnt put it.through his neck? What is it like.being a low int schizophrenic?
Anonymous No.211408578
>>211397693
>adventure horror
The fuck? retard
Anonymous No.211408918
>>211394231
Anonymous No.211408926
>>211399210
T3 is more self aware than t2. Term starts quipping like its marvelslop whilst trying to pretend theres serious stakes to the plot