>While Astrid's race should not matter at all in this fantasy world, it is also interesting to hear DeBlois talk about how her non-whiteness could be historically based. This is due to the Vikings traveling via the Silk Road, which expanded to places including North Africa. Because "dragons are a part of so many cultures," Astrid as a descendant of a multicultural effort to resist dragons has logic to it.

She looks whiter than the whitest Italian, what's the problem?

>>211398674 (OP)
>>211398674 (OP)
>Yo, my viking dad was traveling around the eastern lands and shit, and my mom was a chocolate whore he raped during one of the raids, and it was like totally awesome. Multicultural effort.

>>211398704
Italians aren't white either.

>>211398674 (OP)
>doing backflips and somersaults of mental gymnastics to why you cast a black nepobaby in a viking role
These people people have no shame. White Black Panther can't come soon enough

holy fucking mystery meat...

What is this phenotype

>>211398674 (OP)
>movie comes out soon
>it has petite and rather attractive young chick that would usually get shilled on /tv/ before the movie release as the part of the marketing push
>none on that chick

That's how I know she is nepobaby, lmao. Her mom probably had "no coomer bait with my daughter" In the contract or something.

>>211398711
Chocolate had not been invented yet.

>>211398760
idk but those other two who are white are A LOT uglier, lol

>>211398716
>be italian
>have same skin tone as an anglo-saxon
>"you're not white"

why are you racists so bad at identifying colors

>>211398979
>have same skin tone as an anglo-saxon

>>211399005
>find one really tan italian guy
>"see? they're brown subhumans!"

Whitest black girl I ever seen

>>211398704
>>211398716
>>211399005
Argentina will never be white, mongrel

>>211399034
Yes. Beat it spaghetti nigger

>>211399053
Of course not, it's full of Italians and spics.

>>211399081
my family is irish you nigger

>>211399089
Uh huh, show flag

>>211398674 (OP)
She is kinda mutt-y but I'm less bothered by her than the literal negroids they casted for the Nordics, Hollywood's anti-white historic revisionism is ridiculous and hypocritical. Everyone would be shitting and pissing themselves if they flagrantly had blonde and blue-eyed Europeans in brown people culture roles post-2020. But thankfully they just show up briefly every now and then and stay in the background.

>>211399089
Funny enough Irish aren't white either

>>211399005
Found him in the trailer

>>211398674 (OP)
Ah, this old chestnut. People have been whining about this particular excuse for black people in white areas since KCD. The only solution is to not engage with it and continue to complain.

Because there’s nothing wise about this statement, it’s pure mental masturbation. “I want a black man in this setting, and nothing else matters.” You get into arguing and now you’re at their level, you acknowledge their absurdity as valid.

>chuds want me to find this gross
Nah, not gonna happen

>>211399568
only two choices in life, a chud or a pedo

>>211399089
Well I’m sorry to hear that, but it’s not my fault

>>211398674 (OP)
so what, Nico is like 3/4 white. Thats whiter than 60% of posters in this board

>>211399568
It's a 1/4th Zimbabwean mutt, you can continue to bleach her lineage or you can choose a different whiter girl. Not the worst choice ever. Her mutt mom is a lot uglier. Also this is a britbong mutt too lol.

>>211399568
Brown, therefore ugly. The movie looks great outside of the miscasts.

>>211399769
>all those pol buzzwords
kek
>>211399784
funny i feel the opposite

Based

The world is multicultural. Deal with it incels.

>>211399816
We are dealing with it by not engaging.

>>211398979
Not all racists consider Italians non white, it were just some Americans.

>>211398674 (OP)
Always a nonwhite female with white males

>>211398879
But they are historically accurate for the culture setting

>>211399907
Hot

>muh Silk road
people who insist that they are the educated ones again show that they don't understand how the Silk Road or any pre-Industrial age form of travel worked

>>211399947
Shut the fuck up about historical accuracy. Shut the fuck up. Say you don’t want niggers in a European fantasy story. Say that. Say it with your chest. This pathetic dance around the issue is why things were allowed to get so bad. Express your preferences with confidence. Let them call you names, but don’t back down when they do.

What a joke; historical accuracy! That’s the polite way to discuss the issue, but these bastards thrive on polite conversation because they are the dominant force. Politeness only ever benefits the in-group, and you’re not the in-group.

>>211400049
lol

>>211398674 (OP)
does she get OINK'd too?

>>211398711
Wholesome

>>211399005
>worst gook calling anybody else a brown subhuman

You faggots hate yourselves so much that you spend out the ass on plastic surgery just to look slightly less hideous.

>>211399947
>obese amerilard
>historically accurate to vikings
lol

>>211398704
Whiteness is not just skin color retard

>>211399568
She's not white but her kids probably will be white enough as long as they inherit fewer black features

>>211399568
I don't care if she's pretty, she'st not whit therefore white characters are not her places
The stupid token can choke herself on a rapist's cock as far as I'm concerted. No respect at all for blackwashers

>>211398716
I have an ita gf and she is pale is the moon

>>211400992
>muh white
stfu retard, none of this shit matters
>>211400998
>I don't care if she's pretty
gay

>>211398674 (OP)
>multicultural effort to resist dragons
Sounds antisemitic.

>>211400907
This, mystery blonde mongoloids would be more accurate to the Scandinavians.

>>211401100
You're thinking of finns and sami but yes. That would be more accurate.

>>211398716
You're thinking of the Spaniards.

>>211401125
No I'm thinking about Norwegians like Haaland and Magnusson specifically, literally down syndrome looking mongoloids and yet 100% Scandinavians.

Mfw I will crash this movie and elect trump to a 3rd term

>>211401150
>Magnusson
Meant Carlsen, the mongoloid chess player.

>>211400049
Worlbuilding must mke sense. Fantasy is homogenous. And european looking fantasy and tropes are no place for blacks, deal with it
>Shut the fuck up about historical accuracy.
It' not fuckign realistic.
Medieval people cannot be black, even if there are dragons. For the same reason there can be dragons but not anime robots, submarines or iron man

>>211398674 (OP)
>Not everyone needs to be white
Except white characters, fascist blackwasher

>>211401150
>comparing carlsen and haaland
lol
you have face blindness or something.

>>211398674 (OP)
Is this a real quote? Who let this retard direct

>>211398760
The Greta Thunberg

>>211399907
Just like real life

>>211398674 (OP)
>zendaya
she's just another fucking nepo baby

>>211398716
Whiter than americans.

>>211401337
Same strain of Scandinavian mongoloid.

>>211399270
cope lmao

>>211401224
You’re misreading the point, I’m sorry. Arguing from a position of historical accuracy is an admission of defeat. You put yourself in the arena of academia, which these overeducated midwits thrive on.

You tell them you don’t want niggers in your Euro-fantasy. That’s it. They call you a bigot? Big whoop. Express what you really want and set aside these piddling pedantics over ethnic spread or gene expression. You don’t want niggers. That’s all you need to say.

>>211402472
Chuds will look at this and say it's somehow bad.

>>211401689
God does that person speak English?

>>211401714
gross

>>211399816
You just saved me three movie tickets because I'm not taking my son to a theater to be insulted. Cry more about how theaters are "dying" while race swapping established characters.

>>211399947
>Historically accurate

It's a movie about dragons you fucking ignoramus.

Jews control the world

>>211399907
Just racemix, g0y.

>>211405321
Thanks, I will

>>211401689
Is this what normalfags do for fun? Seems boring as fuck

>>211398674 (OP)
>vikings traveling via the silk road
>silk road through North Africa
>north africans looking like sub-saharian turbonogs
do they actually believe their own bullshit?

>>211398674 (OP)
Its been proven that a lot of vikings were muslims

>>211398674 (OP)
But her race does matter, they’re Vikings……….

>>211399577
All chuds are pedos though

>>211405865
Not at all, they just found that some vikings got some muslim coins in Constantinople

>>211401224
>Medieval people cannot be black
Another American chud reveals that he knows nothing about medieval times.
The Moors ruled spain for 800 years.
>b...but spain is not in Europe!!
yes, incel, it is.
>b...but Moors were white!! we wuz Moors
no, incel, they were not.
Moor" means "black person" in every European language (Mohr, Maure, Moro, Morian, Murjaani, Murzyn....), and Moors have always been depicted as black in European art

>>211398674 (OP)
Am I supposed to pretend she's not cute?

>>211398979
Italians are Catholic, Anon. The nations that generally purport to be 'whiteness' are all Protestant or Anti-Catholic, e.g. Britain, Germany, America, France post-revolution and so on. The reason whites don't count Italians and Irish is because they're Catholics and Catholics were busy violently prosecuting Protestants all over Europe at the time.

Its not about colors, its that 'white' is meant to effectively mean WASPs and WASP-adjacent allies and Spain/Italy/Ireland aren't them. In fact, all three of those nations, despite having light skin, are historical enemies or agitators relative to white nations, which is why they don't get counted.

>>211406016
go back to bluesky delusional tourist

>>211406016
In Spain, Moro was a cultural term, meaning muslim and they were mostly Iberian converts plus some berbers an levantines, none if them looking black

>>211406016
Who cares about any of the minutiae? Blacks and browns are subhuman and shouldn't be included in international productions of any kind, historical accuracy or no. Media is for escapism (from browns and reality) and enjoyment (In spite of browns and reality) and not for historical accuracy. You're just ruining your market by including them and people should be more intellectually honest.

>>211406016
>meanwhile the actual moors in moorish art
what's with leftist idiots and believing islam is a race?
do you also believe that central asians, africans and bosnians who converted to islam became arabs?

>>211398674 (OP)
Lol, they used the same "Silk Road" excuse for wanting niggers in Kingdom Come: Deliverance. They actually think it was a physical road that people would travel on between Europe and China.

>>211401714
I hate her Mom. Hypocritical cuntbag. So I hate her little mutt kid too. Ugly troll doll lookin' nigga. Fuck that family!

>>211399568
She's hot af with some amazing DSL, but they could have at least tried to make her resemble the character she's playing.

>>211398716
Neither are Germans or the French.

>>211401426

>>211402490
AYO CRACKA
WE WUZ IN TOLKIEN 'N SHIET

>>211407067
idk if you noticed but they don't seem to care about that lately

>>211398674 (OP)
>not everyone needs to be white
Correct. Just the good guys and attractive characters.

>>211398674 (OP)
But everyone needs to be not White.
Sounds totally reasonable.

I think the fat kid being that samoan new zealand fat kid is the biggest issue here

>>211398879
But they are spot on their respective characters

>>211398674 (OP)

>>211407320
My biggest issue is Ruffnut. Look how they fucking massacred my girl.

>>211406016
Moors were not sub-saharan niggers which is what 'black' always means to these people. They were Arabs mostly with nigger slaves in their midst. The bitch playing Astrid may be mixed and the setting may be fantasy, but Vikings existed in our world and were 100% White Danes and Norwegians.

>>211398674 (OP)
i think some "white" people need to take one for the team and give up being "white"
if we use ben franklins definition nords arent white so this abortion of a film can cast all nords and still be considered diverse because there are no white people.

>>211407691
>Just stop being the world protagonists bro
Yeah, we can't do that. We were born this way.

>>211398716

>>211399568
>>211407067
Astrid was always ugly and a shit character in the animated films.

Some serious miscasts here. The mongrel Zendaya clone and the ruffnut fatso are the most glaring.

>>211398674 (OP)
>While Astrid's race should not matter at all in this fantasy world,
Nonwhites aren't named Astrid.

>>211407624
Why did they do this?

>>211407855
it would be like a reverse jewish deal.
all us "white" people would still treat each other as white but only anglo saxons would be labled as white for diversity points. white when its good for us, not white when its bad.

>>211406799
The real redpill is that during the reconquista the Spaniards fought the equivalent of Swedish muslims leading armies of Africans.

>>211399049
Still black

>>211398704
She could play Ronja than Astrid.

>>211398760
This is the bigger problem. The twins were twins on purpose, because they ride on a two-headed dragon.

>>211407624
This!

>>211398674 (OP)
It's actually a big step that they're taking care to explain the different races. A couple of years ago they would have just insisted they were all vikings.

>>211398674 (OP)
>>While Astrid's race should not matter at all in this fantasy world, it is also interesting to hear DeBlois talk about how her non-whiteness could be historically based. This is due to the Vikings traveling via the Silk Road, which expanded to places including North Africa. Because "dragons are a part of so many cultures," Astrid as a descendant of a multicultural effort to resist dragons has logic to it.
Holy cope. Just say you're doing it for DEI purposes and move on.

>>211398674 (OP)
>It should not matter it's a fantasy world
>No no trust me vikings traveled to africa too and this was common among them
Decided your narrative bitch

>>211398674 (OP)
>it doesn't matter if I'm wrong but also it's actually historically accurate
I fucking hate when people that know so little of history try to form opinions about it. Like the Silk Road running through fucking North Africa, or North Africa having a bunch of blacks.

>>211399568
She is, though

She's great in Euphoria, I'm in recovery ama

>>211411678
Pretty sure /adv/ has a recovery general. Go sniff your own farts over there

>>211407647
>sub-saharan
Why are incels so obsessed with this term?

>>211408528
It's okay to be gay, Anon.

>>211412181
this isn't bluesky leftoid, and since leftists like yourself play word games, some anons need to LITERALLY spell it out to you that African as a term includes different sets of people, so saying SUB-SAHARAN means BLACK (AFRO) PEOPLE.

leftists are so dishonest and disingenuous that debate needs to have specificity because you faggots twist everyone's words with your nuspeak and agendas

>>211398732
Anon I have some news for you, they just introduced a white Black Panther in the comics

>>211412723
Technically only because said white beats the current king of wakanda, which makes him king/black panther
not really because it was passed on/alternative reality

>>211412803
I mean he's Tchalla's son, so he still qualifies

This "it's a fantasy world" argument that keeps popping up is fucking retarded. Unless you explain WHY a remote viking village is ethnically diverse, you can't just handwave it by saying "dragons exist and you think someone can't be brown?"

The same problem came up with House of the Dragon. Unless you explain WHY House Velaryon is black in this adaptation, it doesn't make any fucking sense for an Old Valyrian house, who has been intermarrying with the rest of the Valyrian houses for thousands of years, to be ethnically distinct from the rest.

>>211413091
They did. They said the niggers and asians chose to live in viking land because they were good dragon slayers or something

>>211413422
Makes sense.

>>211409105
The lead male is always white and the villain is always white. Even in their world view only white men matter.

>>211412181
Africa is a large continent. Did you not go to school?

>>211413091
>"it's a fantasy world"
They always create worlds no one would actual want to escape to. James Cameron is the only director who did it right. If you want a universal escape for the masses create sexy blue aliens with a distinct culture. You cant do that with actual cultures that exist. No black person wants to go viking land if its already diverse. Ironically whites probably liked Wakanda more than blacks since its a unique culture and they can larpe as violent nigs with spears.

>>211413091
You still have a liberal brain in 2025? No explanation is needed. No blacks in historical or fantastical European settings unless the villain's is an invading army of Arabs with black slaves.

>>211414770
When someone is racist but not racist enough for you. Get therapy retard.

>>211415231
>racist
I agree these movie studios are very racist. Instead creating new characters and worlds for minorities they give them leftovers.

Sinners is a hit. You can stop with the weird commie race swapping and miscegenation. Blacks voted with their wallets.

>>211398716
Yeah obviously
If Italians were white then rome would have been a swamp with no written language

>>211398760
Anora

She won.

>>211416010
>tmw the theme park employee is more true to Astrid than the actress in the actual movie
grim

>>211398716
I love how mad the wops got at this.

>>211416010
such a whorish outfit i would rape her on the spot

>>211416010
>that crimson chin on the discount theme park Astrid
Grim.

>>211416010
what race is that

>>211398716
What even is "white" really? There is Germanic, Nordic, Caucasian and Mediterranean I guess where Italy is. Learn what you actually mean then say it.

I love how this makes you deranged incels cry

>>211417109
>Germanic, Nordic
White always.
>Mediterranean
White when it's convenient but generally subhumans with tainted blood.

>>211398704
>She looks whiter than the whitest Italian
>>211398716
>Italians aren't white either.
Oh really?

>>211418108
Italians are so self-conscious about the majority of their people having brown hair and eyes they have to cherrypick the 1% of their bleached hair bitches who can pass as Germans. You're going to have to rev up these pizza ovens 24/7 and incinerate most of your people if you want to make it into the exclusive undeniably white club™

>>211399049
>Whitest black girl I ever seen
For me it's Rebecca Hall.

>>211418449
>blonde hair and blue eyes
Weren't those traits originally really only possessed by wild men that basically couldn't be conquered by the civilized world of time because they were akin to animals?

>>211399335
>Funny enough Irish aren't white either
"Here's your non-white Irish girlfriend, bro."

>>211418566
Looks like a potato which was hit in the face with a pan, a pan-faced potato if you will.

>>211398760
would it really have been that hard to give her a blonde wig?

>>211398674 (OP)
Just dye her hair blonde you fuckers.

>>211416010
Why not accurate outfit?

>>211418920
You can't do that, that's colorism.

>>211421066
So?

>>211398674 (OP)
Why do they stubbornly refuse to just depict characters as they are? Why do they have to poke and prod everything to see what they can girlboss-ify and/or nigger-ify?

>>211421325
Because it brings them more profit by actively pissing everyone off and making all entertainment worse.

>>211421325
Something something sending a message.

>>211418108
Pure Germanic stock. Like calling an Indian in Italy an Italian or a negroid in Ireland Irish.

>>211399997
>Dude this place had a port, that means it had the same demographics as Current Year+12 London
It's so tiresome

>>211407624
What, is Ruffnut behind the fat girl?

>>211398732
>a black nepobaby in a viking role
It's "vikings" though. There is no Europe. It's a totally finctional world. There is nothing that says their history played out like ours. There are fucking dragons.

>>211401714
didn't the other daughter just get tapped to write for some series too even she's nothing but a nepo with no skills?

>>211412196
Having a teenager voiced by ugly betty wasn't doing it for me

>>211409216
>Nonwhites aren't named Astrid.
>he didn't watch Fringe

>>211428480
Who?

>>211398674 (OP)
>While Astrid's race should not matter at all in this fantasy world

>>211429254
Doesn't Black Panther have a brother who looks exactly like that?

>>211412181
Because WE WUZ retards like you need to have the difference plainly spelled out for you.

>>211429845

How the hell would I know? I don't watch this slop.

They should’ve cast a hapa. They’re much prettier than 99% of half black women.

>>211430598
A true Marvel fan would know.

>>211405569
Most people don't know anything and don't question things. You can just say "nope, they were all black." and they will believe you.

>>211398674 (OP)
Then fuck off back to wherever isn't white.

>>211398674 (OP)
>While Astrid's race should not matter at all in this fantasy world
I love how they always use this as a defense, but in the same breath will talk about how heckin' important race actually is in a fictional world. Make a white character non-white? It's fantasy you retard race doesn't matter, but blahblahblah representation matters blah blah blah. If you make a non-white character white? REEEE THEIR COLOR IS INTEGRAL TO THEIR CHARACTERIZATION BECAUSE BLAHBLAHBLAH IF YOU DON'T ACCEPT THIS YOU'RE A BIGOT!!
They've basically so internalized whiteness and white culture that they can't even perceive of it as existing, or even understand that being white can be just as integral to a character's history and manner of thinking as being any other race.

>>211418518
Before you call other people uncivilized you might want to learn how to form a proper sentence.

>>211398674 (OP)
I'll unpack Zendays's ass after I pack it.

>>211412723
thats a jewish fairytale not based anything real though

>>211398716
everything south of Rome is Africa

>>211421535
profit?

>>211398674 (OP)
>but the vikings traveled down a road one time
WELP THAT'S IT
BRING IN THE NIGGERS

>her race shouldn't matter cause it's a fantasy world
>but also vikings were actually black
make up your mind

also, the silk road was a series of trade posts, it wasn't one merchant with his cart travelling half way across the world

>>211425777
Yeah, we should just have every viking drive everywhere in Toyota Corollas because this is fiction and internal consistency and the original work and the real peoples the fictional vikings are based upon do not matter at all, right?

>>211436990
Go back to /pol/ were your retarded ideas sounds normal.

>>211418518
If I remember correctly the Greeks believed they were the perfect race because they were more "balanced" in their appearance, not as pale as the Germanic barbarians nor as dark as the Ethiopians.

here's the director lmao

>>211398716
>>211398704