Thread 211405978

>Be gay little pocket protector fuel purity nerd who dabbles in intelligence work
>Be responsible for enabling the Empire to commit PLANETARY genocide
>Having a complete mental crisis AND stuck in the middle of an active massacre where anybody not wearing Empire uniforms is a target
>Suddenly attacks a man he has no way to recognize facially or visually and does a good job going toe to toe with a rebel soldier

This dogshit ruined the episode. He had no reason to know who Cassian was. He had no reason to attack him in that moment the way he did. The writers forgot that the CHARACTERS don't have the same KNOWLEDGE as the AUDIENCE. What the actual fuck. And this is the episode that even the haters felt was good?

>>211405978 (OP)
Shut the fuck up lmao

>>211406063
Eat shit. If the Empire had pics of Cassian, he wouldn't be able to travel and give out fake names all day. They'd stop him. They never had a pic of him. The scene is incredibly stupid

>>211405978 (OP)
are you being deliberately retarded?

>>211406096
Did you not watch the show?

>>211406146
I watched the entire show. They never had a pic of him that Syril saw.

>>211406142
No, I'm the only one who paid any FUCKING attention. Syril didn't know Cassian's face. Him choosing to attack essentially a random dude on the street was BEYOND stupid.

>>211405978 (OP)
>He had no reason to know who Cassian was
This might be bait, but he met Cassian already in the 1st season after chasing him obsessively.

>>211406193
>he met Cassian already in the 1st season after chasing him obsessively.
Never face to face lol and they didn't even do a whole "that voice...." moment either.

>>211406184
What is going on here then?

>>211406277
what do you know, op is a fag

someone post bixes so this thread isn't a complete waste

>>211406277
So the Empire knows his face and yet he isn't on the most wanted list and manages to travel freely? It's a plothole either way lol. Either Syrill had knowledge he shouldn't have or the Empire is incapable of tracking individuals. It's inexcusable.

Especially since they jack uss off with a big gay "previously on" segment all the time, they could've re-established that but I bet they realize how fucking dumb it is Sryill had a pic and somehow ISB and the Empire at large aren't stopping Cassian at various ports and shit.

>>211406393
>Either Syrill had knowledge he shouldn't have or the Empire is incapable of tracking individuals.
They can, but there was literally an entire couple of episodes dedicated to showing Cassian receiving false identities complete with backstories and having that information be validated. Even if by some miracle they had instant 1-1 face scanning technology that they could do for every individual in the galaxy at all times AND worked on the non-humans AND they were actively looking for a guy who as far as they know might possibly maybe have killed a couple officers in a fight-never proven thanks to the interference and attempted coverup by the way-they still took the time to address how he's got an identity with his face that nobody but the most obsessed would recognize.

Just admit you got it wrong already, this is getting sad.

>>211406675
>They can, but there was literally an entire couple of episodes dedicated to showing Cassian receiving false identities complete with backstories and having that information be validated
A face is a face anon. They should find it VERY easy to find him. Officers and other hiigher ups should have his face commited to memory. Security camera should be scanning faces at major spaceports and Imperial facilities.
> Even if by some miracle they had instant 1-1 face scanning technology
Anon, they don't need 1-1 face scans to have a list of wanted individuals and people working hard to identify them. They show the empire has a VAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAST information and intelligence operation. They can pay a nerd or build a droid who stares at Cameras and tried to spot known rebels.

It's a HORRIFIC mistake in the writing. Literal -dogshit- writing.

>>211406839
Honestly this entire thread is calling you stupid, literally giving photo evidence of you being stupid, and you are still throwing a tantrum. Fuck off

>>211406947
It's just a fact anon. The empire alledgely has his face and knows he's a rebel but he just walks around in the open, right in theview of the empire.

So now the same empire that's bugging and surveilling all their enemies AND all their allies can't track on face? They don't have a list of "most wanted rebels"?

>>211406988
I'm glad you've come to terms with your stupidity being a fact

>>211407109
It's not a fact. I was wrong about one thing that only leads to even grander mistakes and holes. Now instead of one clumsy moment of writing, now the ENTIRE EMPIRE look like retards who can't even distributue images of known rebels and doesn't try to track and trace and detain them.

>OH MY NAME IS GOOJA SO I CAN'T BE CASSIAN LOL
This is what they want us to think suffices to evade the most dangerous facistic empire ever.

How many people do you think exist in star wars? Across how many planets?

You're talking trillions at least. My Mexican gardener could pass for Cassian.

>>211407862
The empire is never depicted as having manpower issues. They rule the galaxy and have the manpower and resources to go with it. Theybshould be able to spot Cassian within 24 hours of him arriving anywhere and he should be well known to higher level ISB/Military fellas.

We still could've had them clash and have him die like that without making the empire out to be utterly incompetent when even compared to like... 1980s IRL interpol.

>>211407862
>>211408017
I mean seriously. C-3PO can speak like 3 billion languages and dialects but the Empire doesn't have a Droid that has access to or contains a database of known rebels watching spaceport CCTV?

>>211405978 (OP)
“That Would Be Me,” episode 2 of Andor Season 1.

>>211405978 (OP)
>Suddenly attacks a man he has no way to recognize
next time stop playing with your phone while watching series

>>211408869
Yes thank you. This crucially important plot detail that they left out of the recaps only proves the writing is WORSE than I thought because now they're proving the Empire as incompetent retards who don't even keep lists of known rebels and don't try to track or apprehend them. The ISB knowing his face should be a SERIOUS disadvantage but instead they pretend like a fake passport is all you need. Instead of a bad MOMENT now the entire integrity of the series and it's stakes is damaged.

>>211406377
this

>>211408869
>>211406277
lmao OP is a dumb faggot XD
just delete this thread and save yourself some embarrassment

>>211406277
>>211408869
lmao op is such a retarded filonislopper

>>211405978 (OP)
OP is a fag and sucks dicks non stop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TtArpYTeIU

>>211408899
Nah eat shit. It belonged in the gayass recaps and even then: Them knowing his face is a MASSIVE thing and it's terrible writing that the Empire can't track or stop a dude they know the face of who walks around in public spaces inside of Imperial controlled planets.

>>211406277
OP utterly and thoroughly destroyed

>>211409091
>>211409098
>>211409115
>It's actually KINO that the empire doesn't even watch Spaceport CCTV to try and spot k own rebels

>>211406277
OP btfo business, go back to your drinks.

>>211409183
Yeah man I'm so BTFO that now the empire are cartoonishly inept throughout the entire series since they fail to track or recognize a man who shows his face openly wherever he goes in Imperial territory

the galaxy is too big, man. cassian is from a planet that was abandoned after a mining accident or something that most people have no idea exists. the rebels just hiding in a planet on the outer rim. those idiots in episode 3 also hiding in some random planet.

>>211409491
Anon, if C-3P0 can speak over a billion languages, the Empire can have Droid at checkpoints that have a database of a few million known rebels and criminals.

Assuming Syril was given knowledge he shouldn't have had by the writers was a good faith interpretation. Instead it happens to be that the Empire can't even track their enemies.

>>211409001
you are a retard that didn't understand something the show mentioned multiple times

>>211409916
Nonsense. Literal nonsense.

Either the Empire is a dangerous and canny foe who demands respect or the show is utterly undermined. Caspian can think that of course, he sort of has to. But for the stakes and engagement at the audience level? It can't be the literal reality. It ruins the show.

>empire sucks
yeah they lost to fucking teddy bears with spears

>>211409001
retard, the Empire rules almost an entire galaxy. Trillions, maybe quintillinos of subjects. You think ONE GUY slipping through the cracks is unrealistic? You're retarded. You are a double retard gorilla nigger. You don't understand the concepts of the media you consume.

Go watch fuckin Solo or your little cgi cartoons and get the FUCK out of here

>>211410094
No, apparently they just retreated for a moment and reformed into the First Order or whatever and actually lost almost no momentum and had a newer better death star and a ultra-huge fleet of star destroyers just waiting to go.

>>211410158
>You think ONE GUY slipping through the cracks is unrealistic?
Yes. They're a surveillance state with huge amounts of control and resources. If retards on Earth now can track people well, it would only get easier in the future.

>muh galaxy is big!
Irrelevant. The empire rules the majority of it. They have the resources and impetus to do this tracking.

If they know his face, Caspian should be hindered by it. It's fucking cringe.

>be retarded
>gets called out
>be even more retarded
that'll fix it

>>211410014
It's true, they don't care. The Empire sees people who rebel as insignificant, and sometimes they create a rebellion themselves in order to get something they want, as in Ghorman.

>>211410290
>Yes. They're a surveillance state with huge amounts of control and resources. If retards on Earth now can track people well, it would only get easier in the future.
Earth has a population of 8 billion, and at it's peak the Warsaw Pact had about 400 million people under it's thrall and they still had people slip away. The idea that the Empire could keep tabs 1984 style on EVERYONE is retarded plus it goes against the themes of the space wizard fantasy series we're talking about. You tripple gorilla retard nigger, you have no idea what you're talking about and you need to go touch grass.
>>211410290
>Irrelevant. The empire rules the majority of it. They have the resources and impetus to do this tracking.
Retard, the Empire had to choose between a moon-sized battlestation or developing and deploying a new model of space superiority starfighter. The Empire didn't have unlimited resources, this is shown multiple times in various media. The Empire isn't the Combine or Oceana, they're an anolog of 1940s Nazis or 1950s Soviets with basically analog surveillance tech. This isn't 1984 you mouthbreathing sperg.

>>211410495
No, they deeply hate them and are seeking to destroy them. We see it everywhere in the show.

>>211410513
>1984 style
Obvious bad faith. Knowing his face should make travel significantly harder for him. They even had a whole thing where they killed a guy over knowing a face.
> The Empire didn't have unlimited resources
Anon, a consumer level butler bot from a shithole slave planet speaks 3 billion languages. They can toss a cheap gonk some pics of rebels and set one up as a standard part of their inspection and customs process.

>>211406277
Also Syril was a trained security agent so he has more traditional training than Cassian so it's not surprising he held his own while in a full blown school scooter nerd rage with adrenaline fueled retard strength. Cassian being a natural badass is probably the only reason Andor held out as long as he did.

>>211405978 (OP)
it felt bad that he didnt get to tell or give Andor a hint on why he was so hell-bent on killing him, but it couldnt have been concluded in any other way. bravo, tony

>>211409001
There are no DNA samples in Star Wars.

Also Cassian was locally wanted. Not in the Imperial most wanted list. There's no galaxy wide surveillance either. Things like that only exist on metro hub planes like Corusant. There are literally thousands of worlds with trillions of people in the galaxy. Trying to keep track of individual people is like trying to keep track of individual ants.

>>211411202
>there are no DNA samples
Good thing this is a debate about faces not DNA lol
>Trying to keep track of individual people is like trying to keep track of individual ants.
Nah. You control most of the ants and can build robot ants that are millions of times more capable of memorizing data.

The entire series is now undermined. They know his fucming face and can't catch him but ALSO made a big deal of killing one dude over SEEING Bix?

Fuck. Off.

>>211406377
i got you familia

Let's see is OP gets it this time.

>>211411558
Nah I always u derstood his character, I just forgot he had a face to the name and figured he couldn't POSSIBLY have his face because Cassian makes ZERO effort to conceal his face and chadstrides around Spaceport the Galaxy over and never has trouble. Only somebody who has retained a level of anonymity should have that privilege in a sci-fi surveillance state.

>>211409021
Doing gods work, saved

>>211411275
There was no credible Rebellion in S1 when Syril started tracking Andor. NOBODY took it seriously outside of Dedra and Syril all the way up to the point of the Death Star plans being stolen. That's the whole point of the show that micro fish sized brains like yourself totally fail to comprehend. That the Empire is too self absorbed arrogant and full of itself smelling it's own farts to give a damn. Cassian literally explains it and says it out loud in plain English early in S1 and you still missed it. ..Sad.

>>211405978 (OP)
I thought he did know Cassian? either way I don't give a shit. I'm not gonna bother ever rewatching it.

>>211409021
>>211411704
I instantly knew that shot was going to be an instant classic the moment I saw it. I even said it out loud to my bro while we were watching it.

>>211411741
>There was no credible Rebellion in S1 when Syril started tracking Andor.
Nonsense lol. It was fledgeling but it was clearly pre-established.
>NOBODY took it seriously outside of Dedra and Syril all the way up to the point of the Death Star plans being stolen
Criminals are criminals. The Empire is an ironfisted security/surveillance state.
>. That the Empire is too self absorbed arrogant and full of itself smelling it's own farts to give a damn
No. They're all bout constrictive control, reduction of freedom and total domination. Anybody who defies that is smashed without mercy.

The Empire can't be "fat and lazy" and also "horrific and oppressive" at once anon. It's always been ironfisted oppression.

As a CRIMINAL Cassian shouldn't be able to do what they show him doing, much less as an enemy of the state lol

>>211411850
Apparently they showed him a pic of Cassian once in episode 2 and never showed it again in recaps [a mistake all of it's own]

>>211411934
The Empire gave a shit about large scale compliance of worlds. From the perspective of the Empire there was no credible Rebel threat. These are petty criminals not surviving Jedi being hunted by Inquisitors

The Imperial bureaucracy gave zero shits about the rebellion and saw them as a joke if they thought about them at all. Which was the whole point of the first arc in S2. That for the most part THEY WERE a joke. They they were below being taken seriously which is why legit players like Luthen and co were able to slip under the radar for so long. Get it through your thick skull to your pebble sized brain that the Empire did not take the Rebellion seriously and were instead fully focused on completing the death star keeping it a secret.

Like literally the only reason Dierdre was able to track and arrest Luthen was because she L.I.T.T E.R A.L.L.Y. broke ever rule in the book to the point of being thrown in jail for it

>>211412541
>From the perspective of the Empire there was no credible Rebel threat
Doesn't matter. They're a fascist security state. Control and dominance is the game. Merely as a rulebreaker, he should be in the databases, and hunted anywhere he shows his face.
>Like literally the only reason Dierdre was able to track and arrest Luthen was because she L.I.T.T E.R A.L.L.Y. broke ever rule in the book to the point of being thrown in jail for it
Doesn't matter. At all. You keep thinking I'm talking about a distinction between rebels and criminals. I'm not. The fact is, they're oppressive jackboot fascists who respond to stepping out of line with unrelenting force. They would/should be tracking anybody who's a lawbreaker. That'd be part of the whole charade too, selling fear to normies and whatnot.


It's simply disbelief-suspension poison. Now I'm meant to think a known criminal doesn't need to hide his face when traveling in public spaces controlled by the Empire who's laws he violated. Complete fucking joke.

>>211412705
The Empire doesn't care about lawbreakers. They care about compliance. Sheev did business with the huts and every other corner of the criminal underworld on a regular basis. Even the cops were full on corrupt. Like full on. With rulefag Syril being the only exception. Face it Anon. This shit is too subtle for you to parse and break down. Don't feel bad. It happens.

>>211410778
>Anon, a consumer level butler bot from a shithole slave planet speaks 3 billion languages. They can toss a cheap gonk some pics of rebels and set one up as a standard part of their inspection and customs process.
but they don't, retard, because it ain't that kinda show
>>211411275
how many dark haired spaniard looking dudes do you think there are on Coruscant which has a population in the trillions? They ain't finding shit, dumbass

>>211412968
>The Empire doesn't care about lawbreakers
Completely untrue lol. You're just choosing bits and pieces of what's been established about them for DECADES and ignoring them.
> Even the cops were full on corrupt. Like full on.
Right so have scenes where Cassian pings up at customs and slips the dude some creds to shut the fuck up. They don't. They just act like nobody knows who he is, while also insisting the empire is surveilling everybody and showing that Luthen has to go to extreme efforts to remain incognito and whatnot.
> Sheev
Sheev is the law. He doesn't care. But everybody esle has to follow the rules.

>>211412978
>but they don't, retard, because it ain't that kinda show
Yes I know. They think I'm a fucking retard.
>how many dark haired spaniard looking dudes do you think there are on Coruscant which has a population in the trillions?
They're evil thugs. They'd happilly bully anybody who looks like somebody they want to apprehend. That could even have been a fun plot bit or story moment where Cass sees somebody take the fall for him because they look alike and it's another like "damn this is morally grey right guys?" moment.

>>211413126
Literally the first scene. Like the VERY first scene starts with Andor brothel then getting followed outside to get shaken down by corrupt cops. I don't know how it could be more clear.

>>211413126
>Yes I know. They think I'm a fucking retard.
you are a fucking retard

>>211413648
They needed to continue to show him being known and tracked. It's absolutely unbelievable that he was able to ealk around the senate. They have his FUCKING PHOTO.

>>211413826
Cassian was not a major criminal. He wasn't famous. Why would he be famous? Cassian wasn't in anybody's radar except for Dierdre and she was working on the DL. Also his credentials for the Senate were fake and spoofed. He is literally nobody. The only stretch of credibility was the fact that he looked like he just got shot out of a canon. The only way he would be spotted was if it was an active manhunt like what happened with Kleya.

>>211414312
>Cassian was not a major criminal
The empire is an oppressive security state. They track and attack all lawbreakers they can identify.
> Also his credentials for the Senate were fake and spoofed.
Doesn't matter. He's a criminal, the ISB had his picture and he'd even been booked in Imperial prison before. PEople like that don't get to walk around the most secure bnuilding in the Galaxy. Not in a "taught spycraft thriller". Not without a disguise.

>>211414432
>>211414312
Don't you get it? They're undermining

>The genre
>The lore
>common sense

When they could've just not had Syril have/see a photo and contrived his realiztion in a different way. Then -everything- else holds together better.

>>211414432
>They track and attack all lawbreakers they can identify

You are making that up. The Empire dies what it needs to do to suppress the masses. Enforcing the law for moral reasons is a sick joke that only fools like Syril and Dierdre believe. That's the whole point. Now go ahead get raped out in a corn field like the genius you are.

>he'd even been booked in Imperial prison before.

It wasn't a legal prison. It was a top secret blacksite completely off the grid built for slave labor. It literally did not exist as far as the normal public knew

>>211414923
>You are making that up
No I'm not. They're a classic security state.
>he Empire dies what it needs to do to suppress the masses
Correct. By trumping up charges, making unreasonable laws and putting "criminals" as well as actual lawbreakers into prison slavery and shit. This is the most established fucking part of the Empire anon. It's a central truth that's core to most Star Wars media that isn't Prequel stuff.
>It wasn't a legal prison. It was a top secret blacksite completely off the grid built for slave labor
They still would have documents anon. It's fully unbeleivable that the sci-fi Nazis don't keep records right.


The ENTIRE series holds together MUCH better if they never tied a face to a name or thought he died in prison or something.

>>211414613
His entire life's obsession is Cassian Andor and he literally had a 3d hologram of him. What do you want them to show him staring at the hologram every week in the opening credits so you don't forget?

>>211415071
>They still would have documents

How are those documents going matter if the information is spoofed? Nobody is actively looking for him like they were looking for Kleya.

>>211415084
>His entire life's obsession is Cassian Andor and he literally had a 3d hologram of him.
They hinged the entire finale of his plotline on me remembering something from Episode 2 in Season 1 and didn't even put in the stupid annoying as fuck recaps.
>What do you want them to show him staring at the hologram every week in the opening credits so you don't forget?
No, I don't want the hologram because it creates a ripple effect that ruins how well the show adheres to spy fiction and star wars lore and disrespects my common sense. I'd rather he not have the photo at all and maybe simply overhear Cass chatting about Ferrix with his rebel Ghorman homies and draw a conclusion based on that and his memory of the his voice. That would've been DEAD easy to do and wouldn't draw all sorts of contrdictions and plotholes all over.

>>211415071
why are you so obsessed with this? Have you ever had sex before, anon? Or are you too fucking retarded to figure out where to stick it?

>>211415187
The thought that Syril would ever in his life forget Cassians face is retarded. It is so retarded and backward against everything the show stood for and was about.

The show was LITERALLY shout the fact that Andor was a complete and utter nobody that only full on autist soergs like Syril and Dierdre dated about. They were the only ones in the entire galaxy who gave a shit who Cassian was and it was such a singular thing they even ended up fucking because they were both autist spergs with something in common. That one thing being they were the only ones in the Empire that cared about some nobody that was completely off the radar and not even worthy of being in the radar as far as the Empire was concerned.

I mean hell. ANDOR LITERALLY SAYS IT IN THE SHOW. Does he need to look straight at the camera while holding a sign spelling it out for you to not have it fly over your head?

Andor haters truly are mentally impaired.

>>211415744
>The thought that Syril would ever in his life forget Cassians face is retarded
That's not what I said. He never saw him face to face, he was given an image by Imperial sources.
>The show was LITERALLY shout the fact that Andor was a complete and utter nobody
I'm sorry but the Empire had pics of him and by the time Syril is embedded under Deddra, he would've shared everything he had for headpats. They should've been looking for him. They always depict the empire as an absolute "no privacy, all security" society and somehow a dude who's face was known [and again was seen at the massacre] was able to just walk right past people without any serious facial disguise.


For most of season 2, Syril and his ISB dommymommy were working together. He would've shared everything he had. This is retarded and you're dumb. Them having his face makes so many other things need to be accepted or tolerated. It's a huge fuckup.

>>211416132
Just have let it go and have sex anon. You'll feel better

>>211416177
MY wife watched with me last night and agreed. We both were like "How the fuck did he know his face" and then I drew the extra conclusion about how it would make no sesne how easily Cassian operates if they know his face.

>>211405978 (OP)
He saw his face on Ferrix my guy.

>>211406393
>The photo the empire has is a old photo of Cassian from years ago
>Syrill presumably would have seen cassians face when he was being tied up on Ferrix

At most the empire only has a old photo of young Cassian and a vague description from Syrill that could match to billions of people.

>>211415187
>They hinged the entire finale of his plotline on me remembering something from Episode 2 in Season 1 and didn't even put in the stupid annoying as fuck recaps.
So as we've already established, you're a fucking retard. Great.
Next.

>>211416220
>MY wife watched with me last night and agreed.
Sorry to break it to you but your wife is a retard too. The fact she married you should have been a clue.

>>211416132
>I'm sorry but the Empire had pics of him and by the time Syril is embedded under Deddra, he would've shared everything he had for headpats

Nobody cared. He was embedded because of Dierdre who was the only person in the galaxy who gave a shit. The Empire gave so few fucks about Cassian or even Luthen himself that the Empire was actually encouraging and pumping up the rebellion for their own gains.

Literally the only reasons shit got real was because Lonnie leaked the Death Star plans. Prior to that exact moment to the Empire the rebellion was less than nothing that was seen as little more than a useful tool for propaganda purposes.

I will give you an exact real life analogy. Years prior to the Twin Towers Bill Clinton had fired a salvo of missiles at an Al Quida base. And literally everybody. I'm talking CNN and Fox news..and everybody else. . literally everybody blew it off as them creating a distraction from the fact that he was getting his dick sucked at his desk in the Oval Office. And they were probably right.

The point is shit doesn't get real until it gets real. Prior to that nobody gives a shit.

>>211405978 (OP)
He knew who Cassian was. He tried to arrest him in season one and had a photo oh him. He likely viewed Cassian as the root of his problems. His life fell apart, in part, because of Cassian's double murder. Its a completely understand position to hold, if not completely rational.

This show is gay as fuck. Tailor-made for redditors. The worst thing to come out of Star Wars by far. Rick & Morty of this franchise.

>>211406063
fpbp

>>211416970
>Prior to that exact moment to the Empire the rebellion was less than nothing that was seen as little more than a useful tool for propaganda purposes
They would still want to know everybody involved and track them and possibly even bring some in to coerce them into turning.
>The point is shit doesn't get real until it gets real
No. Crime is crime and a governmental power like the FUCKING EMPIRE FROM STAR WARS would be mega-cracking down 24/7. That's the whole fucking impetus for the rebellion dumdum

I can't tell if op is baiting or genuinely retarded but either way this thread has been very embarrassing and slightly entertaining.

>>211405978 (OP)
He is a hero of the empire you fucking asshole. Have some respect.

>>211405978 (OP)
>>Suddenly attacks a man he has no way to recognize facially or visually and does a good job going toe to toe with a rebel soldier
Why do you people talk so much shit about shows you never watched?

>>211405978 (OP)
nice prompt did you use ai assist for that shit, faggot ?

>>211419239
>38 years old
he was a fucking kid