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Anonymous No.211530877 >>211531061 >>211531315 >>211531725 >>211531745 >>211533564 >>211533853 >>211533972 >>211539668 >>211541074 >>211541112 >>211543310
Just started watching "A Fistful of Dollars"
It's kind of slow but it's not bad. Don't care for the dubbing tho.
Anonymous No.211530922 >>211530965 >>211533853 >>211535601
Clint Eastwood is an overated hack that can't act.
Anonymous No.211530965
>>211530922
I've never watched any of his movies, he's alright. I've seen much worse.
Anonymous No.211530997
>tho
Anonymous No.211531061 >>211531175 >>211538461
>>211530877 (OP)
A first full is the worst movie of the trilogy. It's still quite good especially if you've read the classics.
I always thought I loved a few dollars more as my favorite, but I just rewatched it and it's full of even more stupid tropes than the first one. Maybe the boomers in charge of TBS when I was a kid was right and TGTBATU is really the best of the trilogy. The Mexican army on one side, the American army on the other. And him in the middle.
Anonymous No.211531072 >>211531175
VERY based OP. Its peak comfy. The good, the Bad and the ugly are peak but its definitely worth it to watch the entire Dollar trilogy. Enjoy it. Yes it feels slow but its from another time. A more sensible time.
Anonymous No.211531175 >>211538410
>>211531061
Yes, I'm gonna watch all 3 of them. I've heard it only get's better and TGTBATU is the best, a good wrap up of the trilogy.

>>211531072
It's good, I like the cinematography. It is quite comfy as you said.
Anonymous No.211531315 >>211531692
>>211530877 (OP)
It's one of the greatest Westerns but you do have to get used to the quirks of the spaghetti. Then you realize no one could do it quite like the Italians and you'll be addicted to the unique mix of style and cheese. And if you think it's slow wait to you see the movie it's based on, which of course is a Japanese take on the Western. The recursive nature of it is part of the enjoyment
Anonymous No.211531692 >>211531826 >>211534180 >>211543310
>>211531315
It's weird that an Italian guy made better Western's than Americans, or at least that's what I've heard and read.
> which of course is a Japanese take on the Western. The recursive nature of it is part of the enjoyment
I don't think I've ever watched a Japanese movie ever, any good recommendations?
Fyi I'm not a movie buff, so I barely have a reference for anything.
Anonymous No.211531725
>>211530877 (OP)
>it's kind of slow

>EEEEHE HE HE HEing intensifies
Anonymous No.211531745
>>211530877 (OP)
That movie sucks. Watch this kino instead.
Anonymous No.211531826 >>211531919
>>211531692
it's not weird at all.

The Italians had decades of suspense based movies, an incredibly cheap production cost, and were use to absurd improv due to the above issue (since they couldn't get funding for big name stuff).
Add that together and it equals a bunch of people doing it for the love of acting mostly, use to working with the smallest amount of resources, and with absurd suspense built into the movie.
Which is why these are not action movies.

think of them as a cross genre of the italian giallo films just in a western setting.
Anonymous No.211531919 >>211531973 >>211532352
>>211531826
Interesting..I wonder why movies these days cost so much and are so underwhelming, is it a talent thing? When I hear $250M budget I just wonder where all the money goes, is it money laundering?!
Anonymous No.211531973 >>211532134
>>211531919
>is it money laundering?!
More of a skimming operation.
Anonymous No.211532134 >>211533927
>>211531973
>skimming operation
Isn't that credit card fraud? I'm not sure what you mean..
Anonymous No.211532245 >>211532892 >>211533010 >>211534070 >>211535648
for me, its this
Anonymous No.211532352 >>211532493 >>211532544 >>211533702 >>211537904
>>211531919
Anon you replied to.
If you want to talk philosophically.

Art is always a money sink in most cases, people do need to pay their bills, but the governments often subsidize art because it's a way for the country to seem more powerful
>look how good our people are at everything
for example.

Now economically take the writers strike of the mid 2000s.
Every single writer went on strike in the writers guild. They all demanded more wages.
Well add inflation on top of it, you now have added an extra 100k dollars to the film cost for one writer congrats.
Same for actors, stage hands, audio engineers, filming engineers etc.

Meanwhile using OPs literal example.
The director and producers wrote the entire script. things like this saved a lot of money.
Everyone in the movie didn't have to sound good either remember they dubbed EVERYTHING in Italian films on purpose. Because it was cheaper to have a beautiful face on screen and a beautiful voice in the booth.
Nowdays you need the actor to do everything, which makes a more expensive actor.
I digress, every cent adds up, every single cent.

and no amount of money can make a good movie.
Art is subjective, the cheapest movie ever could have more soul than the most expensive movie ever and often times it does.
Case and point.

The horror movie Antrum, while not being exceptionally good left me pleasantly surprised
after decades of bad horror movies.
It was absurdly low budget.
Anonymous No.211532493 >>211532544 >>211532985
>>211532352
>I digress, every cent adds up, every single cent.
Perhaps, but the oversight is terrible in the past few years, I've not watched the new Snow White but whoever was managing this project was too busy doing something else. But I guess when you are Disney you have the money to waste half a billion dollars.
Anonymous No.211532544 >>211532558 >>211532588 >>211532985
>>211532352
>>211532493
Why do idiot redditors pollute our board?
Anonymous No.211532558 >>211532588
>>211532544
I've never used reddit once in my life.
Anonymous No.211532588
>>211532544
>>211532558
But that's my second post on this board, as I said I'm not much of a movie guy, sorry about my dumb takes or whatever.
Anonymous No.211532892
>>211532245
Thanks, I'll check it out after I finish the trilogy.
Anonymous No.211532985 >>211533674
>>211532544
>no you can't talk about movies
(you)

>>211532493
Disney is switching to the more diversified market. Lots of very low quality standard movies/shows.
Even if 2-3 of them flop, the 1 that doesn't flop makes them a profit.
Don't get it wrong though Disney was looking at bankruptcy just a few years ago. They almost shut down Disney+.
However they seem to have stabilized somehow.
Anonymous No.211533010
>>211532245
>duck you sucker
Anonymous No.211533564 >>211533674
>>211530877 (OP)
>just started watching
THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE?
Zoomer brain can't watch a movie without constantly alt tabbing for a dopamine rush?
Anonymous No.211533674
>>211532985
>Don't get it wrong though Disney was looking at bankruptcy just a few years ago
Really? Didn't know about that. I mean they did put out some garbage in the last few years.
>>211533564
Maybe I should have phrased it different, I watched it last night, I'll finish it when I go back home today, calm down.
Anonymous No.211533702
>>211532352
>Everyone in the movie didn't have to sound good either remember they dubbed EVERYTHING in Italian films on purpose. Because it was cheaper to have a beautiful face on screen and a beautiful voice in the booth.
It's because Italian productions usually had mutlinigual casts and every actor was saying their lines in whatever language, also the director usually shouted orders to the crew and actors, so they had to redub everything.
Anonymous No.211533853 >>211533931
>>211530922
kek leone said he choose clint because he had only 2 facial expressions with cigar and without cigar, it works for this kind of character
the italian dubber gave him a slightly sardonic and lazy way of speaking that was so great too, I watched fafdm in english once and clint's real voice is a huge downgrade
>>211530877 (OP)
for a few dollars more is one of,if not the, best movies ever made no matter what you think of fistfull watch that one too at least, ofc you should watch all leone movies but if you don't like fafdm you are hopeless
Anonymous No.211533927 >>211534116 >>211534202
>>211532134
>I'm not sure what you mean..
Are you fucking 10 yo?
>"Hey Ted, write a 0 in the end of the running costs and another in catering and one more in electric bills"
>"Look, mister, your movie was a flop, it didn't made the budget back, sorry"
>"Hey Ted, how is the wire of the surplus budget going?"
Pic related is probably the most infamous modern example, since it was made for 4 millions, actors were paid (separately) 16 million... and somehow the final budget was 58 million.
The numbers don't add up? Well, good luck suing all the four production companies involved to see their paperwork.
Anonymous No.211533931
>>211533853
I think For a few dollars more is overrated and the worst of the Spaghetti trilogy ngl. Still a decent movie tho/
Anonymous No.211533972 >>211534202
>>211530877 (OP)
>Don't care for the dubbing tho
watch the English dub of Django and then continue
Leone has the best dubs of probably any Italian movie, to the point that Italians prefer it to the sloppy Italian ADR
Anonymous No.211534070
>>211532245
not bad but "A Bullet for the General" which is basically the same movie, just made 5 years before, is just as good + more dynamite
probably one of the best endings of any western while Giu la testa has meh ending (especially for '71)
Anonymous No.211534116
>>211533927
>most infamous modern example
the most infamous modern examples are probably pajeet and chinese 3D studios which are "paid" tens of millions of $$$ for stuff I wouldn't pay $500k for
Anonymous No.211534180 >>211534232
>>211531692
>I don't think I've ever watched a Japanese movie ever, any good recommendations?
literally anything by Kurosawa is good
most would recommend starting with Yojimbo, Sanjuro and Redbeard
Anonymous No.211534202 >>211534329
>>211533927
I wasn't aware of their schemes. Thanks for the info.
>>211533972
I just live in a country where everything was dubbed when I was a child with retarded voices but it's not as bad as them, now that anons said they filmed it with foreign actors it all makes sense.
>for a few dollars more is one of,if not the, best movies ever made no matter what you think of fistfull watch that one too at least, ofc you should watch all leone movies but if you don't like fafdm you are hopeless
Nice, I'll put it on tonight after I finish this one.
Anonymous No.211534232
>>211534180
Yes, i've heard of him.
>most would recommend starting with Yojimbo, Sanjuro and Redbeard
Thanks for the recs, I'll download em tonight.
Anonymous No.211534329 >>211535306
>>211534202
>a few dollars more is one of,if not the, best movies ever made no matter what you think of fistfull watch that one too at least, ofc you should watch all leone movies
lots of people say Leone movies are the best
IMHO they are the best because they were like a fresh air in a time when the movie industry (not only Italian but also American) were shooting themselves in the foot with every "new" movie
so don't start thinking they are some kind of masterpieces because you will be disappointed
if you want the best experience, watch it after watching some new movie you had high hopes about but were disgusted... then you will appreciate it and see what film-making is all about
>Eastwood just stands and sneers
that's the entire point; that's why RDR was better than RDR2 which had its head stuck up its ass
Anonymous No.211535306 >>211535336
>>211534329
>watch it after watching some new movie you had high hopes about but were disgusted... then you will appreciate it and see what film-making is all about
I don't really watch new movies, I watch "old" classics because I was never really a movie guy so I'm catching up on literally everything.
I've tried watching new "trendy" movies but I don't like it. I don't know how you guys feel about him but i really enjoyed watching Tarantino movies lol.
Anonymous No.211535336 >>211535414
>>211535306
>but i really enjoyed watching Tarantino movies lol.
the only good Tarantino movie is Polp Fiction
Anonymous No.211535414 >>211535465
>>211535336
Funny enough I didn't think it was even his top 3 movies, maybe because it was so hyped or maybe I didn't get it idk. I really liked Inglorious Basterds, Reservoir Dogs and Kill Bill.
>inb4 newby retard
yeah whatever
Anonymous No.211535465 >>211535496 >>211535574
>>211535414
>inb4 newby retard
don't worry
I just feel that he made Pulp Fiction from the heart (i.e. parts of it were real, he lived through them or was a witness) while the rest were slop... good slop but still slop
same goes for Leone, he ran out of "juice" with Good, Bad, & Ugly in which he put every ounce of his soul... but at least he made 2 other decent movies before it lol
Anonymous No.211535496 >>211535574
>>211535465
>he ran out of "juice" with
I mean he invested everything in it... in case any asian grammar-faggot comes and says that it ran out while making it (incorrect)
Anonymous No.211535574 >>211535586
>>211535465
>>211535496
>goes for Leone, he ran out of "juice" with Good, Bad, & Ugly
Good, I can't wait to get it, my dad told me it's one of his favorite movies when he was young. That's why I downloaded it in the first place.
Anonymous No.211535586
>>211535574
get to it*
Anonymous No.211535601 >>211536743
>>211530922
He can play exactly one type of character, but he honed said character well.
Seeing him being placed outside of his typecast turns any scene into an instant comedy.
Anonymous No.211535648
>>211532245
kino
Anonymous No.211536743
>>211535601
>Seeing him being placed outside of his typecast turns any scene into an instant comedy.
lel
Anonymous No.211537904 >>211538067 >>211538446
stating the obv but best western scene ever is

don't even need to know the context it's all borne out. good guy vs. bad guy. their first and last meetings back-to-back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwb3P0fuM1c
>>211532352
too pure for this world, anon
Anonymous No.211538067 >>211541020
>>211537904
>arch in the middle of nowhere
COOL AND SYMBOL-PILLED
>indians exploited by muh white men
commie talking points 101
meh Leone obviously was unprepared to confront the people seeking to exploit him after the success of Good Bad & Ugly
Anonymous No.211538410 >>211538535
>>211531175
do not skip Once Upons after seeing the trilogy

Leone just kept improving and it is a shame that Hollywood fucked him over
Anonymous No.211538446
>>211537904
This sounds like Enno Morricone, probably is.
>t. Metallica fan
Anonymous No.211538461 >>211539348
>>211531061
>The Mexican army on one side
are you retarded?
Anonymous No.211538535 >>211538863
>>211538410
>Hollywood fucked him over
how so?
Anonymous No.211538863
>>211538535
cut his film apart and redited it in chronological order
Anonymous No.211539348
>>211538461
I don’t blame him for thinking that, italians look like mexicans
Anonymous No.211539668 >>211539740
>>211530877 (OP)
Leone is one of the most overrated directors of all time
FaFDM is his only good movie
Anonymous No.211539740 >>211539906
>>211539668
is that with the bank robbery?
even though it's cool his good bad ugly movie has more chases and treasures tho
feel free to contradict my logic, I am open to it
Anonymous No.211539906 >>211539987
>>211539740
Eh, it's too bloated and overly long
The only good Western with this runtime is Assassination of Jesse James etc.
Anonymous No.211539987
>>211539906
I've seen overly long movies but the theatrical cut of GBA (which I kept) ain't too long
Anonymous No.211541020
>>211538067
>Leone obviously was unprepared to confront the people seeking to exploit him after the success of Good Bad & Ugly
Nobody is prepared for that, you either give in or get shunned
Anonymous No.211541074 >>211541738
>>211530877 (OP)
Did you pause the movie to write this, or did you not even do that you ADHD child
Anonymous No.211541112 >>211542833
>>211530877 (OP)
it's the worst out of the trilogy
Anonymous No.211541738
>>211541074
no
Anonymous No.211542833
>>211541112
As it should
Anonymous No.211543310
>>211530877 (OP)
The whole Dollars trilogy is amazing.
>>211531692
You need to understand the context that American westerns at the time were fairly bloodless. You never saw much of the bullet actually hitting the guy. As in John Wayne would shoot then it'd cut to the guy falling down. Clint shoots and you see the man get hit in the same frame. That's because Leone didn't even understand American movie making which worked in his favor for creating a good picture. Clint talks about all this at great length in I think a Charlie Rose interview. Yes I'm old.
Anonymous No.211546047
Once upon a time in the west > Anything from the dollars trilogy

They're still great though