>Previously on The Shield...

>SUCK IT
>They made you...suck?!
>YOU'RE JUST A NIGGER WITH A FAGGOT NIGGER SON
>Mackey?! MACKEEEEYYYYYYYY
>You think Mackey is working for this drug dealer?
>No, I'm suggesting this drug dealer is working for Mackey
>I'm not gay.
>WE KILLED A COP
>Get over it. Don't bring it up again.
>HEY DUTCH BOY
>THIS GUY IS JUST PISSING ALL OVER US
>GODDAMNIT DUTCH HOW MANY ERRANDS DO YOU HAVE US RUNNING FOR THE DA
>You're ripping off the vending machines?!
>LET'S SEE THAT MOUTH
>rinse and repeat for 7 seconds

>>211537354
>Previously in the Shield thread

>>211537354
Adding
>Shane?!
>The cartel is buying up Farmington?
>You ever heard of an Armenian money train?
>You want me to lick your balls, daddy?
>...Oh you've got to be shitting me.

And some screencap with Acevada's wife saying
>I'm tired of feeling like I'm in a Shield thread too

>>211537296 (OP)
>autists arent retards
This has been debunked.

>>211537536
Vic's hard shift into virtue signaling only when it comes to his own kids was hilarious and even more so later in the show when he tries to sue the state for issuing vaccines that made his kids retarded in the first place. It goes nowhere and just an excuse for the showrunner to give screen time to his wife (Vic's ex-wife).

>>211537296 (OP)
>Money train or something

>>211537296 (OP)
SPOOKH STREET NIGGUH

>>211537296 (OP)
This and Sopranos are the goats.

fellas, am I a contrarian if I think this was better than the wire?

>>211537514
>You want me to lick your balls, daddy?
when did his happen

>>211537354
>Whatever you need to do, do it... I'm tired of feeling like I was raped too.

>>211537354
you forgot
>HUNGRY LIKE THE WOOOOLF
>SWEET BUDDAH

>>211540357
faggot nigger son says it to shane when the hick and the spic fuck up in season 4

post yfw Shane's fate

A FUCKING GRENADE

>>211540643
Why would you feel bad for Shane after what he did to Lem?

>>211540329
No, it's a valid take.

>>211542575
no because >>211542459

You'd think he would go down guns blazing, but no...
That was sad.

>Guitars and screaming over Spanish music and Mexican gibberish
Great theme song guys.

>>211542575
>>211542459
bro...

I'm still amazed at Anthony Anderson's role as Antwon. All my life seeing him play goofy characters in comedies and then he owns it by playing a gang boss that is quite intimidating at times.
Really underrated.

>>211542685
>JUST ANOTHER DAAAAAAAAAAAAY
>*papi, ven aca*
>[Chicano Music Intensifies]

>>211542701
>>211542575
>>211540643
Oh come on, Shane was entirely justified in killing Lem. Lem's life was over when Emolia ratted him out to IAD. He had to die. The way he was delusional about this fact was dangerous. He would've gone insane in jail and ratted Vic and the guys out. He had to die. Shane went crazy over grief so don't think it was like Vic with Ronnie where he was mildly annoyed that he got called out in front of everyone for being a traitourous piece of shit.

>>211542760
apparently he barely remembers this show and thinks no one ever saw it

>>211542841
no he fucking wasn't and sure wasn't justified in doing it that why WHAT THE FUCK? he didn't even have the courage to look him in the eye and just end it, it was cowardly it was horrific it was fucked up, stop excusing shane, shane deserves worse then what he got

>>211542841
>>Oh come on, Shane was entirely justified in killing Lem.
You disgust me.

>>211542913
>t. the weakest link that gets something special mailed to them

>oh no, I have a stable job instead of spending all day surrounded by criminals, whores and street scum this can't be happening

btw for any newfags who never saw Lems mini memorial episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meeVWDf9mW4

>>211542913
>>211542898
Idiotic and childish view on that storyline. The real tragedy of it was that he HAD to do it. He had a wife and kid (yes, yes, I know) and letting Lem go was a huge risk no one sane would've taken. This also leads to Vic's hypocrisy because Lem's position was even more dangerous than Terry's ever was (he didn't have anything on Vic when he was killed) and this also makes Vic's betrayal of Ronnie (which is a far, far worse fate than Lem) even more horrific. Shane and Mara went out happy and together. Ronnie had the worst fate. Condemned to life in prison knowing he could've escaped his fate if he didn't trust that bald fuck.

non american here, is it possible to get away with all that shit if you make a deal?

>>211542981
The power and juice he had as a cop was all he had going for him. He was a dumb as bricks working class cop and that was his raison d'etre. Not his family. Which is why this was a great ending for him. He probably goes out and gets killed trying to play cop without a badge.
>>211543039
No, the show just took massive creative liberty with that bit. Vic's deal would've been torn up in his face the moment he said he planned the murder of another cop.

>>211542993
>had to do it
fuck you, and like I said he could've been up front about it instead of the cowardly piece of shit he was, he could've at least looked Lem in the eyes said sorry and shot him. That would've at least been something.

>>211542981
>spending all day surrounded by criminals, whores and street scum
way more fun and real than the boring coddled office environment
if you cant empathize with him i got no good words for you

>>211542981
>stable
Absolutely not stable at all. One fuck up and he was going to prison where he would have been insta-murdered.

>>211542993
>This also leads to Vic's hypocrisy because Lem's position was even more dangerous than Terry's ever was (he didn't have anything on Vic when he was killed)
Shane even points this out when he admits to Vic he killed Lem. Vic tries to brush it off by saying "that was different!" when it really wasn't and he knows it. Vic liked Lem and didn't like Terry, that was the only difference.

>>211543077
no his deal was air tight that was the entire point, complete immunity, what you forget is if Vic is convicted all those cases get thrown out, everything they give the fbi all of that is over turned if they convict Vic. The showrunner knows a fuck load more about criminal process and the legal system then you do, it would work.

>>211543039
>is it possible to get away with all that shit if you make a deal?
a lot of the things Vic did, yes, but Terry's murder, no

>>211543080
You're just digging your own grave at this point. There was nothing Shane could've done to make killing Lem less of a tragedy. In fact, the way he did it was the best way. He dropped a grenade which, in theory, should've killed him on the spot but by a freak fluke he survived. That was the fucked up part. But he did say he was sorry after he did it and cried his eyes out and went insane with grief and guilt over the next two episodes. Go rewatch the show before you spread bullshit.
>>211543134
Pretty much. What Vic did to Ronnie and how he treated him was 1000000x worse than what Shane did to Lem, not even in the same universe. He looked him in the eye and said he was sorry as if it was some small thing and not condemning Ronnie to life in prison where he most likely would've been a torture slave for all of the Strike Team's enemies, namely Antwon Mitchell.

>>211543039
If you’re involved in enough high profile trial cases and then are found to be corrupt, you’ll be moved to a do-nothing unit and never allowed near casework again. Which everyone with an IQ over breakfast saw coming from the first episode. As a corrupt cop involved in a trial conviction means the case essentially has to be tossed.

>>211543226
yes their is just shoot him in the back of the head, shane did it that way because it was easier for him, he didn't have to look at lem he didn't have to pull the trigger, it was cowardly.

>>211543283
>>211543143
>>211543205
Vic's deal was not unrealistic and quite clever as a plotline and how it ties into the themes of the show. But the problem is Ronnie. Surely, Vic must've forgotten or misconstrued something and as long Ronnie remembers it, he can void Vic's deal. Also, Vic's testimony is pure hearsay when it pertains to Ronnie.
>>211543319
And drop his bullets for people to find. He used the grenade to throw off suspicion. You're dumb as bricks. get the fuck outta the thread. you're talking about a show you don't even remember.

>>211543226
guilt after the fact is irrelevant, its the way he did it, it wasn't for Lems benefit it was for his own so he didn't have to look at Lem and pull a trigger.

>>211542701
>grenade sandwich, my favorite!

>>Sorry to interrupt but I just confirmed some very disturbing news. D-did you sign off on a deal with the shitposter?
>I did.
>I thought we agreed, no deals. The only way to get Anon is to leverage his frens.
>We're in the middle of something here, janny
>So am I and it just got derailed because you guys cucked out
>It's over, Janny. Sending the spammer to Reddit sends a message. We all move on now.
>and Anon skates clean...*laughs* This guy, this guy is just PISSING, just PISSING all over us and we just smile and lick it up?
>That's enough...
>ANON SPAMS BOARDS, HE-HE POSTS SNEED, HE SAYS THE N-WORD
>YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID YESTERDAY? HE-HE DOXXED MY REDDIT ACCOUNT TO MAKE HIS BANS LOOK LIKE SOME REDDIT VENDETTA
>HE MAY HAVE RAIDED /LGBT/
>AND THAT'S JUST ALL IN ONE DAY
>I WONDER WHAT HE'S GONNA DO TODAY, I WONDER WHAT HE'S GONNA DO TOMORROW
>THIS GUY, THIS GUY IS JUST PISSING, HE IS JUST PISSING ALL OVER US. HE'S PISSING ON YOU WH- WHAT DOES IT TASTE LIKE, HIROMOOT? WHAT DOES IT TASTE LIKE?! CAUSE IT TASTES LIKE P I S S TO ME

>>211543359
he knows how to pick up casings and source an untraceable gun thats bullshit, he did it so he could just throw it in and run away like the fucking coward he was, stop defending shane.

>>211543359
>And drop his bullets for people to find. He used the grenade to throw off suspicion. You're dumb as bricks. get the fuck outta the thread. you're talking about a show you don't even remember.
yeah not just the bullets either, a gun to the back of the head implies he was meeting someone he trusted enough to let them get that close and then got assassinated.
a grenade in a car is like some sneaky shit, some cartel dude sneaks up on you in a trap.

I watched this for the first time a few months ago and started basedfacing when I got to the suck it part cause of seeing those threads scrolling here

>>211543359
>Surely, Vic must've forgotten or misconstrued something
Vic demonstrated time and time again he's got a really really good memory, iregardless its in the best interests of the fbi to not prosecute him otherwise all these convictions can be thrown out.

>>211543444
>>211543427
Shane's plan for killing Lem was spotless if not for the fact he didn't replace the missing grenade with a dummy or just devised a different way to get a grenade. But his plan was still solid.

>>211537595
It's quite similar to Tony Soprano when AJ faints during football practice. Suddenly Tony was concerned about AJ and wants to sue the school even though all he does is bully his son at home for being weak. It's about a man being unable to come to terms with his son being weak, which makes the man himself feel weak and lash out at anyone but himself for being a shit father.

>>211543450
>TFW you remember that THE SUCK only happened because Vic forced the SUCK IT guy to suck on a pipe moments before
>tfw Vic caused Aceveda's rape indirectly because the SUCK IT guy was pissed about being humiliated and took it out on Aceveda
Best show ever lol

>>211543504
his plan might be what he did is still unforgivable, and their was other ways he could've done it but he was a cowardly piece of shit.

>>211543560
>he could've done it other ways
You keep saying this and it sounds even more batshit insane the more you say it. No, dude, there was no "good" way to kill his friend. He did it and got it over with for his sake and the sake of his wife and child and because he didn't want to go to prison which he 100% would've if he let Lem live (Kavanaugh/Antwon would've got him to turn on the team)

>>211543560
Lem was the coward, though. Panicking and putting everyone at risk because he was too scared to just ride it out, running away and showing himself to be untrustworthy. How was someone like that even in Vic's circle of trust? Surely this weakness would have shown itself earlier.

SWEET BUTTER

>>211543614
I would've beaten him to death after he burned the Money Train cash. No fucking question or hesitation. I would've used that crowbar he had to beat his brains in. He destroyed the futures of all of his friends because he was scared. Lem should've been killed way sooner than S5.

>>211543600
yes their is shoot him with one of the many guns the strike team had for that exact purpose execute people without it being traced back to them.
>>211543614
Lems moral quandary isn't the issue here we are talking about shane, its not the killing of lem thats on trial its the method

A serious discussion of The Shield?
Best /tv/ thread.

>Anon, you're banned for life.
>For what?
>The last 2 months. Doxxing the jannies, spamming their IPs and names. Your fren gave Hiromoot everything.
>...w-what?
>You told them....all of it?
>Anon, I'm sorry, I-
>YOU'RE GODDAMN SORRY?!
>I didn't think I had a choice!
>WHAT ABOUT MY GODDAMN CHOICE, HUH?! WHAT ABOUT MY GODDAMN CHOICE! I WAS GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER! WE WERE GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER TOGETHER! GODDAMNIT! WHAT ABOUT THE BOARD, HUH?! WHAT ABOUT SPAMMING THE GODDAMN BOARD?!

>>211543670
>I would've beaten him to death after he burned the Money Train cash. No fucking question or hesitation.
the money was marked and therefore useless. Lem did them a favor by burning the money.

>>211543039
It’s a race swap of the rampart scandal where the corruption was so complete the entire precinct has to be deleted, as every case from the precinct had the real Vic mackey’s involvement and the corruption went on for so long because this was his main shield.

The show characterizes Vic as a hypercompetent badass who’s always a step ahead, but the reality is all the cops know who the corrupt cops are… because they’re all corrupt. For if you’re not corrupt the other corrupt cops won’t trust you, thus won’t work with you, and the job is pointless. So cops don’t report on other cops because it’s as bad for them to do so. This makes it very easy to be a corrupt cop. As long as you don’t get in trouble with a higher authority, you can do pretty much whatever you want.

>>211543931
Not all of it and they already made out which amount of money was marked and it was a small amount. The amount left was still enough for them to be set for life. He destroyed their futures over a whim. Fuck Lem. he deserved the grenade.

>>211543359
Cops aren’t capable hearsay. Anything they say someone said is testimony.

Shane was 100% correct that if Vic got to Lem first, he would've killed Lem.

I also want to point out once more: Ronnie was the racist one, not Shane. Shane was just a hick so he gets the banjo boy image but in the end Ronnie was just in the strike team to beat up minorities. You can see it in every single scene

>>211543966
Nah, he did that because there’s an edict in American media that crime can’t pay.

DAMN IT DUTCH

>>211544067
I don't see how levels of racism matter in this discussion, what Shane did was fucked up and unnecessary Ronnie never did anything but do his job.

>>211544067
Ronnie is by far the show's biggest flaw and might as well ruin it for me. It was evident that they were building him up to be the ultimate traitor given how easily he was willing to throw Lem under the bus when he got caught and how quickly he turned on Shane. I thought for sure Vic's downfall would come from Ronnie understanding the jig is up and selling him out. But no, probably Chiklis refused to go out losing and veto'd that story decision. It would've been a 10x better ending if Ronnie, the quiet background guy, turned out to be the secret pawn mover and fucked over Vic who thought he always had him in line. What a waste.

>>211537354
>LET'S SEE THAT MOUTH
I was rewatching this show recently and I was shocked how many times they reminded the audience Aceveda sucked a dick
they replay that clip at the start of ~20 episodes minimum
felt bad for the actor

>HOLY CRAP, LOIS! THIS WAS EVEN WORSE THAN THE TIME I WAS BEING INTERROGATED BY DUTCH BOY ON THE SHIELD
>AT LEAST I DIDN'T HAVE TO SUCK HEHEHEHEHE

>>211544143
I mean how the actor portrays him. Because Ronnie only has like seven lines of dialogue for the first six seasons you tend to not look at him.

But once you start noticing how every time Vic is roughing up some perp, Ronnie is right there licking his lips with a facial expression like he's got half an erection.

Just rewatch any episode and tell me it ain't so

Now that the dust has settled, was it KINO?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTnjLNEVxYg

>>211544163
thats utter bullshit as ronnie was always shown as the most loyal and the ending is perfect and that is basically universally agreed on, so no fuck you maybe you should be more hungry you know like a wolf.

>>211544191
It was played in previews for episodes that barely featured Aceveda. You just know it was some kind of in-joke among the crew. It's the show's most infamous moment so they also must've felt the need to remind people of it because, let's be honest, it's funny as fuck.

>>211544264
I don't see how thats important to the FUCKING GRENADE discussion, but thats kinda the point with Ronnie he's just always there always loyal always capable the last man standing

>>211544283
>most loyal
Not really. He was all to happy to fuck Lem over when he was caught by Kavanaugh in S5 and he wasn't so much as loyal as he was just a wheel in the cog. His character was incredibly underdeveloped. They should've killed him off in S2 and replaced him with Julien/Tavon or some other Strike Team guy.

>>211544067
>Shane was just a hick so he gets the banjo boy image
What?
Did you forget the whole scene with the black cop he beat nearly to death?
Any scene where he talked about Antwon Mitchell?
Just because he also fucked an underage black girl doesn't mean he wasn't racist.

>they made you.... sneedpost?

>>211544191
well acaveda was supposed to be written out way earlier but everybody loved working with the actor so they kept him around until the final season

>HE WAS PEEKING OUTSIDE OUR BEDROOM WINDOW

why was Ronnie so... underused?

>>211544333
well back to the grenade then: imagine vic and lem in an isolated location and as always lem starts acting like a pussy.

vic would've had a little turn to camera moment doubting himself, get a dirty spare from his trunk and blast lem in the head.

if you really think vic wouldn't you might be a little stupid

>>211544390
He was an extra guy to fill out the Strike Team and a close friend of the creator's but he just stuck around because they couldn't figure out how to incorporate another main Strike Team guy with a meaty role. Plus he didn't want to fire his friend. He kept him around and the character of Ronnie was in constant flux and just in service of whatever the plot needed. Which is why his outburst at the end is so hollow since you don't get any real sense of wh he is as a character.

>>211544360
Never heard that before, but it makes sense.
They seemed really unsure what to do with his character for a while.
His connections to the Forest Whitaker plotline felt a bit half baked

They actually made an extended version of the SUCK IT scene, don't know if it's available on stream services

>it hasn't been posted yet
no Shield thread is complete without it

>>211544335
I really like that he was "underdeveloped" actually its funny thing idk if any other show has done that, he's just always there reliable ronnie and then by the end he's the only one left, and you as you always follow Vic are like
>well who really cares about ronnie
and then the hammer falls, its incredibly well done, its surprising just how much you feel for him and how much you suddenly remember just how he was always their.

>>211544424
sure at least it wouldn't have been a fucking grenade, Vic would've done it like a man not a fucking coward like shane. Thats kinda my entire point.

>>211544511
how accurate was this show portrayal of a ghetto?

>>211544604
you should not ask question you already know the answer to

>>211544511
This one scene is more realistic and tells more of a complete story about blacks in America than all 5 seasons of The Wire.
>>211544604
Dead-on. ESPECIALLY the fucking dancing..

Ronnie doesn't become a real character until season 5, but he does enough that what happens to him makes you feel like the buildup to it was justified

>>211544638
I don't care, he was there from the start and always had a memorable presence and was likeable. When they slapped the cuffs on him, me and my cousin (who had actually missed Vic ratting him out in the previous episode) were fucking stunned. No show has ever made us feel such a visceral reaction at its plot. And that was AFTER Shane killed his son, wife and baby. 10/10 series for me.

>>211544341
the faggot nigger scene in context is shane trying to bait antwon
the situation with tavon had nothing to do with his skin color. he was intimidated because tavon was the better cop. there are several fantastic scenes that double down on how tavon is the better cop whilst shane is the better dirty cop. it was just unresolved tension.

>>211544511
They may have gone too far in a few places

>>211544638
I thought he became a real character after he came back with his burnt face?

>>211543790
>open up /tv/
>Shield thread with nearly a hundred replies
maybe /tv/ is still good

>>211540643

>>211542981
being a wagie was gen x's version of hell

>>211544950
>>211540643
It's fucked up but you realize that it was a much better fate than Jackson being put into foster care (ensuring he's a fucked up druggie forever) and Mara/Shane doing life in prison. They went out together and happy. That's what counts.

>>211544735
They constantly had him saying the most racist lines.
You're right, there was definitely more context to those scenes, but it's still fair to suggest he's the most racist if it always led to that with him (except with young pussy)

>>211543359
The themes of the shield:
>being a corrupt cop is badass
>being a corrupt cop is really hard and they get caught eventually

>>211545208
show is pretty clear from the first second that vic and shane are just on a massive powertrip and never had any real intentions of cleaning up farmington.

they're not badass, they're psychos. corrine might be an annoying character but she was always correct in every decision she made

>>211542841
They were justifiedn in killing lem when
>HE BURNED THE FUCKING MONEY
nevermind when he refused to go to mexico. People say shane is a fuck up which is true but its all minor shit compared to lem ruining everything.

Ronny deserved getting betrayed by vic for trying to get shane whacked after vic lost his nerve btw.

>>211545280
Vic is introduced beating a pedophile until he tells where his victim is. You’re not supposed to be conflicted about this character and you’re not supposed to think about how the pedophile just won’t get caught next time.

>>211543412
kek

>>211545416
pilot doesn't count
in the sopranos pilot junior wears shorts at a cookout

>>211545453
That wasn’t the pilot, that was the first episode. The pilot was the prequel episode about how easy it is to become corrupt.

What do you do if you were in his position at the end of the show? How do you escape being Antwon Mitchell's bitch in prison?

>>211543913
lmfao

>>211545531
do everything I can to be sent to a prison not near LA and request separation from the general population due to being a former cop

>>211545531
It doesn't matter what Ronnie does, he will be utterly curbstomped by the state and the feds as the pound of flesh because they made a deal with Vic they can't walk out of. He will not even be given counsel or a trial, he will just be thrown in jail where (at the very least) he will be mercifully shived to death.

>>211545453
In what universe is a character wearing shorts comparable to >>211545416?

>mfw you see pictures of the shows creator and realise how much Vic is a pathetic self insert
>the super badass who all the guys are intimidated by/jealous of and all the women want to fuck just happens to be short, fat and bald.
>W-what do you mean he looks a lot like me, oh that's just a coincidence.

>>211543504
Wasn't shane the one to log the grenades so the count was correct? Or was there a discrepancy at the crime scene count vs locker?

>>211545753
Even more bizarre is
>cast your wife opposite another man as his wife in the show
>have a black guy want to fuck your wife
>have your friend want to fuck your wife
>show gratituous ass shots of your wife in the show and also have your leading guy dry hump her for minutes
it was all too much cuckoldry

>>211545753
wait he was literally married to the actress who played the wife too?

>>211545208
>being a police captain SUCKS

I thought he was a kind soul who just trusted the wrong guy. That's the tragedy of it all. All of the Strike Team guys were good cops and good people ruined by a piece of shit like Vic.

>>211545796
Shane intentionally miscounted when logging the grenades for evidence. There was no grenade missing from evidence which told Vic that Shane planned to kill Lem early on.

>>211545949
Then how did they figure out it was him?
I thought it was from checking the grenades in evidence

>>211545753
>the super badass who all the guys are intimidated by/jealous of and all the women want to fuck just happens to be short, fat and bald.
Even worse. He wasn't that fat but he had manboobs. Not sure why they made him wear tight tucked in tshirts for maximum puffy titty visibility

>>211543941
Rampart was the inital premise but its in no way related to it in actuality. Rampart was basically an entire precinct of nog gangbangers larping as cops assassinating other gangbangers (complete with leaderboards), dealing drugs, etc etc. Until a spic working with them got pinched and narcd

>>211545796
the discrepancy was that there was one extra from the crime scene that wasn't reported but was still in the locker. So if someone took one grenade, the count would still be correct. Vic and Shane were the only people who knew that.

so what did it taste like?

>>211546163
>Vic cucks Kavanaugh
>Kavanaugh tries to cuck Vic
>gets blue balled
Is a cuck trying to cuck someone else and failing even more pathetic than just being a cuck?

>>211544633
>Dead-on. ESPECIALLY the fucking dancing
Yt dont finna be dancin when he getting arrested? Shiiieeeeet

>>211546163
fucking the mentally ill chick to make him snap was kinda hilarious

>>211540643
Shane was a loose cannon piece of shit the whole show and he caused way more problems for the team than he solved. I felt bad for his family, not him

>>211546271
gina torres was also amazing playing some typical american whacked out on xanax housewife

>>211546033
>Rampart was the inital premise but its in no way related to it in actuality. Rampart was [several plotlines from the shield]

…

>>211545531
Tbf they act like antwon is a mafia boss but in reality ive never heard of nogs having any prison reach, i dont think they have any loyality

>>211546163
sour vinegar

>>211546387
Are you really this dumb?

>>211545531
Neither the feds nor the DA would want the strike team’s dirty laundry aired in open court. Ronnie would get a very favorable deal, he might not even do time

>>211546481
Lol no. He'd get fucking buried as the sacrificial lamb for all of the Strike Team's crimes. Not the either way around.

>>211546477
>rampart and the shield are nothing alike because of [minor differences]

Are you?

>>211546357
I hated most of the scenes with her in it, but she really did play the role perfectly
I just really had no sympathy for Kavanaugh or the nuts chick with fake assault stories

>>211544735
What about the time they kept the basketball player to miss a game and Shane kept constantly saying racist shit?
That was in Season 1 and even though that everything you said could be true it was already established that Shane was a racist

>>211546477
the shield is a show about four middle aged white men going around beating up gangs.

irl rampart was more like if antwon mitchell got to sit at acaveda's desk

>>211546506
The only thing they have on him without Vic’s testimony is the aiding and abetting and no prosecutor would ever call Vic as a witness

>>211545730
a detective doesn't beat pedophiles

>>211546481
Lem and Shane are dead. Vic cut a deal. Ronnie is the only one to punish and he wouldn't ever get out of prison. If he cut a deal there might be a chance for parole when he's really old.

>>211544232
LMAO i remember this guy
he killed a chick because he expected her to be thin and not a landwhale like him
fucking hilarious

>>211546587
Yes, exactly.
>>211546522
This retard thinks 4 guys landlording is equal to assassinations and dealing

>>211546506
>>211546481
some anons have pointed out that a lot of bad people would have a chance to escape prison since Ronnie, a corrupt cop, put them there. Would they risk sending him in just to have a bunch of degenerates out?

>>211546636
Sadly, most likely, they just dump Ronnie in jail and that's that. That's what the show implies to maximize the tragedy of the finale. But realistically, he'd get a sweetheart deal and reveal something Vic forgot or played down and he'd just lose his badge and only does a few years for A&A while Vic is send to jail.

Whenever I see “CCH Pounder” in the opening credits, my brain immediately transcribes it as “Cock Pounder”.

>>211546756
My brain says 9/11 times a million

>>211546506
As of the finale no one with an incentive to make the strike team’s crimes public knows about those crimes. It’s just Aceveda and Farmington and the feds, all of whom would look like idiots or go to prison if the story gets out

>>211546797
The whole point of Ronnie's freakout was moreso that if he landed in jail even just for the night he'd get shanked to death.

>>211546631
This retard didn't watch the show.
These 4 cops did assassinations, drug dealing, kidnapping, human trafficking. They did multiple international crimes, it wasn't just "landlording" in LA

>>211546843
Driving into mexico is 'internarional crimes' gimme a break. Go read tup on rampart its not comparable in the slightest

How would the Strike Team deal with the George Floyd situation?

Has a character ever gotten BTFO'd the same way Vic did when he entered the Barn in the last episode?

>>211547026
>condemn Ronnie to a fate worse than death
>you're just mildly irritated at his freakout
Vic was a stone cold demon in human skin.

>>211546990
>Shane kneels on his neck
>Floyd squirms a bit and Shane empties a mag in his head while screaming STOP RESISTING NIGGER
>Lem looks on in discomfort

>>211546990
>You want to charge me for being near some nobody soul brother dying of an overdose?!
>Get back to me when you've got something real
*puts on sunglasses
*strut out of barn whilst flipping open phone intensely
>I need a line on this fent shit, where do the major players hang out
*some niggers sitting at a fried chicken place
*waltz in
>Listen here boys, I'm going to leave this end of LA and you all alone
>I just want to know
>Who's putting the fent on the street

>>211546953
Yeah you clearly didn't watch if you're only aware of them "driving into Mexico"

>>211547074
>>211547222
I suspect the reason the show is buried and why any attempt to make it more popular by compiling clips on YouTube so it can have new fans who then go on to watch the show is the fact that FX is cucked and doesn't want people to watch it because of LE HECKIN RACISM

>>211546990
Strike team isn't showing up for that call, it would get handled by Rookie Tina and Julien or something

>>211537296 (OP)
Previously on the shield :

>Loud plapping noises
>Summoner's rift music in the background
>Hey what's up with the dancing jews in 9/12
>Yeah yeah i know also the wooden doors, HEY! watch it dawg you're going too fast! Fuck!
>Man i miss my wife
>An ally has been slain
>Alright dawg, go get the towel and get the rubber duck and fill the jacuzzi.

>>211537296 (OP)
Suck it

Best show ever. Nothing, not The Wire, not The Sopranos, not ANYTHING has come close to scratching that itch. I'm so hopelessly addicted to this show I put episodes on in the background. It's the show with the most entertainment value.

>>211546587
Rampart was corrupt police officers doing heinous shit and mostly getting away with it because police corruption is its own defense.

>>211547549
What are the big ideas examined by the shield? In these threads all I see is soap tier “and then x did y because w did z and x felt really bad about it”

>>211547578
in the shield they're corrupt because they steal some drugs and plant some evidence.

irl rampart was literally what if the crips without sheets joined the police and would remain a gang yet now with a badge

and even back then: a couple of white men waltzing into a gang hideout would just get killed. badge or no badge.

>>211547644
>big ideas
Lol, spotted the Wireschizo who's permanently buckbroken by The Shield's existence.

>>211547644
Show really does have some layers to it. Being on basic cable in the early 2000s might have been a plus point after all. You know when you rewatch the sopranos it turns out tony is just an emotional asshole? the shield is like that but much heavier

>>211547061
Before this in the span of minutes Vic:
>learned about his best friend's suicide
>learned that he took his pregnant wife and child with him
>got read his suicide note by Claudette
>shown his crime scene photos
>chimpouts in the room so he doesn't cry
>Ronnie arrested in front of him and everybody in the Barn looks at him in disgust

>>211547756
You say that, but no one was imprisoned over rampart. No one was able to prove CRASH was killing people. A cop selling drugs would be arrested and convicted yes? A cop murdering in cold blood would be arrested as well, right? All that happened with rampart was a dozen suspensions, a couple early retirements, and five terminations.

Vic confessing is probably one of the most cathartic moments in TV history. Dude had his asshole clenched for six seasons and just finally gets away with it all. No moment can compare to it.

>>211547819
>muh wire
>>211547833
>muh sopranos

So nothing but surface level in the shield, got it

>>211547756
Irl rampart was basically lets make an african dictatorship in America.

>>211547894
it was the 90s bro. george floyd type stuff happened every day and no once cared. not the ghetto dwellers nor the cops. you're seeing the whole thing through a modern social media lens

>>211547962
Go away, you fucking schizo. Biblical level loser.
>>211547860
He couldn't believe that Shane killed his wife and child only because of something he said half-heartedly just to piss Shane off.

>>211547756
>a couple of white men waltzing into a gang hideout would just get killed. badge or no badge.
This is the take of a suburban white that grew up listening to gangsta rap

>>211547990
Rodney King and the LA riots were also the 90s.

>>211548054
I accept your concession

>>211548093
rodney king was a massive asshole

but you don't see the difference between footage of a guy getting clubbed by half a dozen cops and a guy dying of an overdose whilst one cop is just doing as he was trained?

>>211548149
>YOU KNOW WHAT THE MOST DANGEROUS THANG IN AMERICA IS? A NIGGA WITH A LIBRARY CARD
Bravo HBO
My wife's son clapped

>>211548187
>george Floyd stuff happened every day in the 90s and no one cares!
>okay they cared and rioted as a result of a video but that guy was an asshole!

The common factor is the video.

>>211547894
Perez was and then a bunch were dismissed and the rest were covered up and 125 mil was payed out to settle civil suits

>>211548256
They have books about making your own ammunition, gunpowder, and anatomy at libraries.

>>211548342
why do they have anatomy books? looking for more places to hide heroin to sneak into prisons?

>>211548292
rodney king the asshole was drunk as a skunk and attacked the cops who pulled him over
he later died in his pool after a drunk cocaine bender

george floyd was just some poor prick who was addicted to fent
he died of fent whilst the cops where restraining him

there is a huge difference

>>211548093
And that happened because someone caught it on camera. Consumer Cameras were expensive as fuck in the early 90s, unlike today where everyone records everything everywhere for attention of the information superhighway.

>>211548256
Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.

>>211548409
>george floyd was just some poor prick who was addicted to fent
He had multiple priors and almost murdered a pregnant woman.

>>211548256
he only has the card because he just killed a white man and stole his wallet

>>211548469

>>211548409
Listen, you, yourself, asserted that George Floyd stuff happened every day in the 90s and no one cared. The LA riots were a response to the ruling in the Rodney King case, that people knew about, because there was a video.

You’re trying to argue against these facts with hindsight.

i had to screenshot this from my harddrive because i don't have any webms but when lem saved kavanaugh from that grenade was by far the most badass moment in the entire show.

>>211549085
>badass
Fate gave him the perfect way out of his predicament and he chose to bury himself instead. Lem was a dumb trailer trash motherfucker who had it coming.

>>211549189
no man just pure operator reflex. at that moment kavanaugh was on their side

If they were ever reboot it, how would you guys do it? New setting with new cast in a different city or continue with Vic's story after 20 years?

>>211548589
people die from drugs everyday, it was only when george floyd died everybody decided to burn down the town over it.

>>211545753
>just happens to be short, fat and bald.
he's literally me

>>211549374
1
boomerslop
>vic is some private detective you work for me now
2
zoomerslop
>strike team kicks down the door
>guy with needle in his arm
>yeah listen he's just a victim of our white system
>we're just here for the evidence

>>211549374
The Shield couldn't be made post-Obama, let alone in 2020's.

On my first time watching it. Just started season 3. Cant believe I never watched it before.

>>211549398
… because there was a video that made it look like a cop was strangling him… why skip this part? Rodney King being an asshole doesn’t change the fact the video of his beating caused a riot

>>211549676
when a perp is resisting you put a knee on his neck. there's tons of videos way more agressive then what happened in the floyd video.

they fucking called an ambulance for him, they and the guy in prison for two decades did the best they could do. if a person can shout i can't breathe that means he can in fact breathe

>>211549808
>if a person can shout i can't breathe that means he can in fact breathe
someone in cardiac arrest / having a heart attack can take breaths but the heart can’t effectively process the oxygen leading to the sensation that you can’t breathe. i don’t care about the floyd thing, just a helpful piece of info if you ever experience it yourself or someone you care about does.

>>211549374
>The Shield reboot
>the gangs are all white
>Armenian mob swapped out for the Aryan Brotherhood

Season 1&2 Corrine is beyond retarded.
But god fucking damn that ass!

>>211549808
Again, you’re trying to use hindsight to argue against fact. The video caused the LA riots, the video caused the BLM riots.

>>211549933
cops are not paramedics man. especially in the usa. why do you think the usa system needs cops to just go "okay bro, you don't have to be detained. you can just do whatever you want" whilst dying of a fent overdose

>>211549947
Wasn’t that a double

>>211549374
The show existed to whitewash rampart, in every way.

>>211550021
You’re just going to keep performing progressively more complex mental gymnastics to shout down facts, aren’t you

>>211550162
nah i'm cool. let's quit

>>211545753
No wonder /tv/ loves this show so much. It’s the autismowashing

>>211550021
Nasal narcan is now a standard part of police kits. The joke is if Floyd wasn’t overdosing he’d be impossible to control.

Ronald Everett Gardocki

>>211545531
>>211546481
This is the only anon who gets it. The only evidence they have of Ronny being an accomplice is Vic’s word, who is probably the most crooked cop in *recorded* history at that point. Remember, Ronnie was outside when Terry was shot, and that ink has been dry for years. They would never have Vic on a witness stand.
Ronnie walks.

>>211550671
He hacked the mainframe

>so i posted two christina hendricks threads
>remembering everyone how milla jovovich has delicious feet
>You're gonna ban me for that mod?

>>211550812
It was kinda weird how whenever anything technical needed to be done Ronnie just magically knew how to do it. Did they ever give him any backstory that explained that?

>>211551092
I dont think so. I just assumed Ronnie was one of those guys that is always tinkering, so he knows a lot of stuff.

>>211551074
>We got a doxdump for your Dropbox folder.
>...You can't do that.
>We can. Our moderator team just uncovered two gigabytes of cunny.
>How many more are we gonna find, Sean?
>...heh... Seventeen!

>>211551092
originally, Ronnie was just the tech guy of the group, which kind of makes sense that they would need someone like that but there was never any explanation of his backstory

>>211551092
just mediocre writing

>>211551092
What complicated shit did he even do? Most of the time it was
>Ronnie go find who owns the plates
>Ronnie go find his address
>Ronnie go look up in police records any known resources
He didn't really do anything that technical he was always a GODDAMN ERRAND BOY

>>211551092
>>211551615
Not really, originally he was just the ladder guy. The actor was someone's friend, and they needed someone to carry the ladder for one scene, and fill a seat, I'm not even sure if he speaks in the first few episodes. If i remember correctly, they were gonna switch him up eventually, but ended up just keeping him

>>211552430
based

>>211537354
fpbp

>>211544191
The actor probably pissed off some studio exec. A lot more common than people think for petty execs to humiliate actors they dislike by forcing decisions on the writers

>>211551074
>Dutch busts a serial killer with like 20 bodies
>this somehow doesn’t hit national news and he just goes back to work as usual
How was he not on the fast track to captain or higher after this?

This show was pulling some incredible numbers at some point, funny how most people don't remember it now

>>211555113
I remember FX pushing Rescue Me more and that didn't pull nearly as many viewers.

>>211537354
Kino

>>211540643
post yfw Lem's fate

shield bros... why do we never get discussion like the sopranos or the wire???

>>211558823
Too high-test
The Shield is not for navel-gazers

>>211558823
JUST ANOTHA, DAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY

Isn't getting a guy to suck your dick while your male friend watches and records it on his phone kinda gay?

>>211559016
Pretty normal for Armenians

>>211545408
but burning the money was the right thing to do

>>211559372
they were all flagged, right? i think there was something to that effect that was made clear to them.

Lem was just as bad as the rest of them and got what he deserved. Ronnie too, he was a fucking psychopath.

>>211544511
This scene never made any sense, why are there so many adult aged men just hanging around during the work hour? Do they expect us to believe they all work remote jobs? Seems unrealistic

>>211559682
Ronnie was based and low test navel gazers like yourself might find the wire more palpable to your delicate sensibilities

>>211542785
Spicken Park?

>>211559016
how do you even get your dick hard in that situation?

>>211544163
That would've been ridiculously predictable. The fact Ronnie is the one betrayed, and they play it out so long so that it really hits you, it's perfect. No other show would've done that to a seemingly minor character

>>211537296 (OP)
I liked The Sopranos. Should I watch The Shield?

>>211560790
Yes, its unironically better than Breaking Bad, but as good as Oz or The Wire

>>211561626
Better than Oz

>>211537354

>>211559682
Lem is basically the Bobby Bacala of The Shield, a criminal who seems more sympathetic relative to his criminal associates because he’s soft-spoken and sensitive but never makes a serious effort to do the right thing and just kinda goes along with all the bad shit they do out of loyalty. Less “good” than just weak.

>>211544265
>Fallen Kangz

>>211560790
If your appreciation of the sopranos doesn’t go past “lol funny mobsters” you’ll like the shield

>>211544604
It was fucking filmed in Nickerson Gardens. Probably 90% of those blacks were actual residents.

>>211544604
The realism of all the gang shit is insanely impressive. Antwon was a bit of a cartoony TV big-bad but other than that

>>211561824
God damn based billings poster

>>211561824
this guy is so cool

>>211562450
is mouthfucking people really something gang members and drug addicts do?

>>211562714
t. never sucked dick like a cell bitch

Slow the pace of the major arches some. They gave up way too much too soon, a lot like Stranger Things, and then had to recycle the new supervisor who's going to bring Vic to heel thing over and over again, at least three times. There wasn't really any reason to smoke Terry until the end of season 1, no need to even suggest it was Vic until later in season 2, and so on.

The major impetus was cheesy, too, the whole he's just doing it for his sick kid bullshit. Public employees have insurance. I would've made the whole grand arch that they plant evidence and cut other corners (and usually on guilty people), and came under investigation, so the two major pulses are that and then whatever crime they're going after that episode or season.

i wanted more carl weathers, hes so cool

>>211562714
The raping of another man isn't considered a gay sex act, its considered an act of emasculation which was exactly what Juan wanted to do to Aceveda.

Literally its an extension of prison culture

>>211562862
but you still need to get an erection to do that

>>211542575
That's how good the show is. I fucking hated Shane after he killed Lem but by the end I was on the edge of my seat hoping Shane would somehow make it out or at least save his family.

>>211544191
Seeing the actor play some tough CIA cartel operative in Sons of Anarchy was weird, I kept always picturing those dick sucking flashbacks from the Wire no matter how tough and alpha they tried to make him next to Danny Trejo.

>>211542701
FUCK YOU for posting this, fuck you anon, you know what you did

>>211563076
On the other hand Aceveda was just a greasy social climber piece of shit that I never felt one ounce of sympathy for him over SUCK IT

>>211543039
no, there's a reason killing a cop is automatic death sentence in most states that still have that punishment. killing Terry was not something any deal in the world could take you out of.
amerimutts do be like that.

>>211543039
No, ICE would simply stand up and walk out of the room the moment he said he killed a cop. What is he gonna do, sue them?

>too bad about your son though...

>>211566688
realistically speaking how bad is it to be a faggot on the ghetto?

>>211567914
Nigs are much more accepting of faggotry than other races. That's why almost all prison sex is black on black.

>>211567914
you get a back full of shiv, and an ass full of cum

>>211562714
Yes. For a while there was a trend of black gangs uploading videos to the internet of their sexual assaults on rival gang members, all males.

I framed a guilty man...

>>211568489
They engage in it more than other races but they're not more accepting of it, hence their "downlow" culture.

Why was this scene so hot, anons?

>>211573884
Had no idea chloe sevigny was on the show

>>211572910
source on the information? what caused that behaviour and what made it stop?

>>211574465
I have no idea if it stopped. I only saw the videos here on 4chan and twitter. If it stopped I assume it's because people were making fun of them for being gay.

>>211573884
PETER PARKER SENDS HIS REGARDS

>>211574768
They stopped posting the videos, but they didn't stop fucking other dudes and "pretending" it was just gang violence.

i've got lupus
i've had it for 15 years

if they scrapped the idea of Dutch becoming a serial killer, why did they still leave in the cat killing scene?

>>211576086
not only that, they leave it up in the air
someone brings in a bunch of kittens and by the end of the day only the runt is left and dutch takes it
we never hear of that cat again

>>211559158
They weren’t Armenian

>>211576086
what else was scrapped, if any we know of

>>211580040
>The one person that I wanted to use in this season that I couldn't was Franka Potente. We had a little mini story arc that was going to deal with her character, but she was stuck in the jungles of Bolivia or something filming "Che" for Steven Soderbergh, in like this never ending film session, she really wanted to come back, we had like a 2-3 episode thing that was gonna incorporate her, it would have complicated the Armenian-Mexican thing
that's the albanian chick shane cops to
this is a good read https://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2008/11/shield-shawn-ryan-post-finale-q.html
>As for Dutch and the cat, I always viewed that as a one-episode story. I was sort of surprised when people watched it, and most people really loved it. Dutch strangling the cat and Aceveda getting sexually assaulted are the two things people always bring up to me on the show, or Lem's death. I think it was so impactful for a lot of people, and they're so used to impactful things on "The Shield" carrying over, that I realized after the fact that people were expecting that, and by then, we'd moved on. I just saw it as Dutch stuck in an interrogation room with Clark Gregg, thinking he's manipulating this guy, but Clark Gregg's manipulating him and using Dutch's insatiable desire to understand these people. I thought it was clear the way Jay played it that he felt used at the end. I never felt like it was played as, "Oh, I'm really getting juice out of this." People have compared Dutch to Bayliss (from "Homicide"), and they did a storyline on "Homicide" near the end where he got really fascinated with that stuff and killed someone, and I didn't want to cover any territory that Tom Fontana and those people did so well.

>>211580397
armenian* SHIT

>Shield thread nearing 300 replies
Blessed day

i started watching it due to the shilling on the board and im near the end of the first season, a whole bunch of shit got spoiled by coming to thread but i dont care whatever

>>211581422
You lucky motherfucker. Obviously it sucks you've seen some spoilers but seriously S2 right until the finale is all so fucking good. S1 had its moments but S2 and 3 elevate the show to high kino

>>211576086
Dutch always tightroped between disgust and fascination with the people he caught. I think he was wondering if part of himself was starting to become like them. Killing the cat was a way for him to stare into the abyss.

>>211581422
Not a whole lot of great importance happens in S1 anyway outside the pilot and finale

SUCK IT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2aINQduzqM

>>211581594
Benito Martinez had to have pissed someone off, S3 on was just one gigantic humiliation ritual

This show was just as good as any of the HBO shows, if not better. What a tragedy that a show of this high caliber just had to be on FX and now is technically owned by fucking Disney. It deserved to be a prime time HBO show. The writing/acting/directing/cinematography/everything is 10/10.

>>211573884
GIVE ME RENT

>>211581627
If you are to believe what the showrunners say, it's the contrary. Everyone liked Benito and wanted to keep him around which is why. Plus, the SUCK IT storyline is the most notable and interesting of the whole series (sans Strike Team). He either had to leave the show which they didn't want or go with SUCK IT.

>>211581651
>there's a reality where Disneyland has a VR Shield ride where you go on a ridealong with the strike team and beat up gangbangers and hookers in the ghettos of LA

Does he die alone?

>>211581715
>Mommy, I don't want to go on the SUCK IT ride

>>211581731
>pretty good-looking
>not terribly old
>solid career, probably next in line for captain once Claudette keels over
>gets less awkward with women toward the end of the show, still has a chance with Tina
Pussy said yes plenty of times and will continue to say yes in the future

>>211581731

I liked how much he resented the ghetto niggas and wanted to be one of the white boys. He was a great addition to the Strike Team and got in line with their methods almost immediately. But it's better that he had that fight and accident with Shane because considering how things ended up for the Strike Team, he got off easy.

>>211581812
>>211581785
He still got maneuver-cucked by Billings.

>>211581731
Imagine the primal satisfaction he felt every time he tapped Corinne's ass after how much shit he took from Vic

>>211581731

>>211581955
Jesus this episode was brutal

People discuss Chiklis acting at points, for example on this scene when his wife lefts him and he seems having trouble at crying. However when he grabs his chest, he was having a real panic attack there: https://youtu.be/i50dk5N83yw?si=GhFgA23GT3Yi5vxT
Also even if the plot-line of the anti-hero getting his wife divorcing him because of his actions has gotten a bit dated by this point, back when the S1 finale aired no other major series had done it before, not even The Sopranos did it yet.

>>211537296 (OP)
Dean Norris and James Gandolfini are the same person. Look at the nose.

>>211581731
No? He literally bagged that hot ass lawyer at the end and got to shit on the Strike Team one last time
Very few characters won as hard as Dutch won and was a long time coming post-cuckening arc

>>211539722
DENTAL PLAN
WE KILLED A COP
DENTAL PLAN
WE KILLED A COP

>>211543913