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10/10 comedy.
how did they pull it off
>>211584873 (OP)Good writing and likeable characters. It was also before the era of woke, so the fact that everyone is brown isn't supposed to be a political statement which means no one got offended.
I love the movie, I really do, but it feels like a made for tv material. Same with Lilo and Stitch. I don't know why, maybe too much comedy? Lion King, Mulan, Prince of Egypt, Titan AE, movies from the 90s that felt like important things were going on.
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>mfw kronk pulls the wrong lever
yzma/kronk were hilarious.
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The show was pretty good
>>211584993How much was Kronk getting paid to fuck her?
>>211584873 (OP)One of the rare cases when the studio meddling actually improved a project.
https://youtu.be/BFpUI1auoJ8
>>211584873 (OP)wait what i thought this was a show?
>>211584873 (OP)The shocking realization that David Spade isn't funny broke me because I love this movie. At least he's got great delivery here.
>>211584918Or you know, because it was set in a brown country.
I fucking loved this film as a kid. I always wanted to watch the show but I couldn't for some reason. Maybe we didn't have the Disney channel at the time, or something else was on at the same time. I don't remember.
god i hate all these ugly 90s 2000s disney films theyre offensive to all the senses, if someone loves them its a sure sign im talking to an idiot
>>211584918There were no white characters to blame for the wealth inequality or negative brown qualities like selfishness.
I'm glad doug woke the fuck up and realized how funny this was
>>211584873 (OP)I like the part where krunk is in the busy town center looking for the llama because it reminds me of Hercules in Thebes.
>>211584918I saw a behind the scenes pop up on Instagram and many were complaining about the lack of POC actors lmao. This kino literally could have only happened at that time
>>211584943You are retarded.
>>211584943i actually watched this on tv. didn't even know it was released in theaters
>>211586002>half an inch dickHardly a man
>>211586161Jokes on you, I cut it off and became a woman
>>211584873 (OP)By all accounts it doesn't make sense.
Now that the dust has settled, why DID she even have that lever?
>Is a fucking STUPUD FUCKIUNG ANNOYING SHUITHEAD BASTARD CUNT in your path
>>211584873 (OP)Movie was excellent but Kronk is what made it. Almost every memorable gag was Kronk. Patrick Warburton was best choice
>>211584918*nods respectfully towards you*
Aye. Before the dark times. Before the Woke Mind Virus.
>>211584873 (OP)It's like rapid fire jokes every 10 seconds
>>211585112
>>211586770Probably to trap people who tried to follow her to find out what she was up to in her free time, she's not a very friendly person and isnt too discrete about her hatred towards Cuzco.
>>211585974Why were you on Instagram?
>>211585004hottie hot hottie
I haven't seen it yet but there's apparently a whole documentary about what a nightmare this movie was to make. Basically a whole plot and soundtrack they already did that had to get scrapped for some reason last minute. Yzma's villain song is kinda great, removing an Eartha Kitt musical number should be a crime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbIoa4zA9Vg
>>211584993>Cat girl yzma in kronks new grooveWhoa mama
>>211588378Yes, and? Disney was good once, you know.
>>211588378Disney used to be good, gen alpha faggot
>>211588940>>211590483>Disney was goodYeah, in the 1930s
>>211587194Love this little dude like you wouldn't believe
>>211585080Elaborate on this.
>>211585380In 2000 animators set things in brown countries because they thought it would be cool
In 2025 they set it in brown countries because they want to punish you specifically
>>211584943>Titan A.E.Pure slop
>>211585369he isn't that funny at all. he was far better doing more serious work with the dry humor here and there. no idea where the fuck THAT david spade disappeared to
>>211585191They released a show 5 years after the movie. It isn't as good.
>>211590907it was supposed to be a more traditional lion king type movie where the kingdom of the sun is thrown into darkness, everyone has their own deep motivations, bla bla bla.
buddy road trip movie with more surface-level characters was far better kid's movie fare IMO.
>>211591046if a show has that logo associated with it you know that a good third of it is going to be the same recycled plots and ideas and jokes as all disneys other sitcoms, animated or live action. Even if the show itself isn't by heart a sitcom, it WILL have a bunch of sitcom plots and jokes.
>>211584873 (OP)Didn't Disney have no faith whatsoever in the movie, especially as it started out as a bad musical? So they left the creators alone so they could push it out and let it die. Best decision they made, no interference from executives.
>>211584873 (OP)It's a brown character that's deeply flawed, which humanizes him even further.
It's also Disney's best movie because there's no romantic kitsch at all, it's about brotherhood.
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>>211591147>there's no romantic kitsch at alldamn there's really not a shred of it, is there? a married couple with a bunch of kids behaving exactly like that, basically, and that's it.
>>211584943Titan AE was fucking garbage
>>211584993"My spinach puffs!"
>>211584964>wrong leveeeeeeeeerrrr!!lmfao
>>211584993Would have loved to hear Yzma’s cut villain song
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fto13DyeyAQ
Great music.
>>211590907See
>>211588211It was meant to be a big epic production akin to Lion King
>>211591272Hear ya go anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_hJxBUMuss
>>211591202Yes, Pacha's scenes with his wife are like two minutes long and are played for laughs.
>>211591207Indeed. It's a shit movie that people only remember for being one of the first animated movies of the century (June 2000)
>>211587194Squickety squickety squicken
>>211584873 (OP)It had the same director as this 1997 underrated gem
>>211591393This movie made my sister a furry.
>>211591422Is your sister hot
I really miss that era of Disney. Lilo & Stitch is still a great movie.
>>211591511yeah usually, the fursuit doesn't have much airflow
>>211591527Stitch's realization he's on a relatively underpopulated island is great. the scene where stitch reveals himself to nani is so good. David being this guy that tolerates the wierdest shit just because he's trying to get laid. the initial villains turning around and deciding the shit they're fucking with is way better than the shit they're used to... it's a great flick.
>>211591511Does the pope shit in the woods?
>>211591527Chris Sanders is so massively horny all the time and you can just tell by the exquisite way he draws women.
>>211584918>before the era of wokeif Mulan, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Pocahontas and Lilo & Stitch came out today you'd call it woke
>>211591694I don’t entirely doubt it but the difference between woke and not is the fact that they show Nani constantly being a fuck up. That’s diversity done right in my opinion when characters are portrayed as human and not god like beings who do no wrong bevause there women and or brown. I hated pocohantos and hunch back as a kid so I can’t speak for them I haven’t seen them in nearly 30 years
>>211591694No. Even though they feature brown or ugly characters, they still doing under the mainstream aesthetic.
Woke inherently means that the aesthetic must be subverted and destroyed, because neomarxists claim that the only way forward is to destroy all of society and make it anew, placing the "oppressed" on the top rungs on society artificially. This is why you end up with things like Bazz, where they're trying to find the intersectional inferior and elevating it.
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>>211591527I can't believe they censored this in such a dumbass way
>>211591863Pizza boxes don't look like that. That is an oven.
>>211591863>don't want to encourage kids hiding in a dryer>lead them to the pizza oven instead
Since we're talking Disney, I just wanna say something: this movie isn't that great. Sure, it has good character designs, animation/aesthetics and music, but the storyline is contrived trash, the pacing is rushed, and the jokes are weak.
>>211585191Kronk's New Groove is basically content for a mini-series spliced together as a movie.
>>211591863The owners of Disney knows that the safest place is an oven
>>211592043Opinion invalidated.
>>211592043This is the worst post I've ever seen on this board, and that's saying a lot after 211 million posts.
>>211592100>"I'm going to the party with someone else"She was a bitch
>>211592345You're just blinded by nostalgia
>>211584943it was on par with Hercules
>>211584964>The squirrel moves to pop the balloon>OHSHIT.PNG>He pops it>Nothing happens>Laugh out loud at him>Wake up the animals>FML.WEBP
>>211592043will forever be bitter that my uncle took my older brother and cousins to see this movie when I was like 5 but I wasn’t allowed to go (I can’t remember why)
>>211584873 (OP)It going from a serious drama several years in the making to elaborate shitpost (with heart) with a rushed and expensive production strangely in this case made the film better. I believe the animation team got to work on the Rhapsody in Blue segment of Fantasia 2000 during the shift, which was great. Them + the Cats Don’t Dance director was a good combo and everything just aligned. Choosing to put Eartha Kitt and Patrick Warburton together officially made it a masterpiece.
>>211592388yeah kind of. Max was upfront and honest about how his dad is making him go on a stupid trip and how much it sucks. It’s not like he intentionally blew her off. What the fuck was her problem
>>211593137lmfao
>Kronk communicates flawlessly through various squeaks and gibberishthat’s good shit
>>211593191I once had sex with Eartha Kitt in an airplane bathroom
>>211591694Correct. Anything else?
By literally runing a "Lion King" style film by 2 homosexuals at Disney so they had to rework everything and turn it into a buddy-film SNL comedy tier.
Watch "The Sweatbox" documentary in archive.org , great kino
>>211592043I grew up on Extremely Goofy Movie which to me was always superior in every way. It also had banger fucking music. Listen to this shit. I can visualize the dude with the dreads dancing.
https://youtu.be/IWweHBpscDU
As a peruvian that is mostly native american I would never watch this kind of bullshit. Fuck you all putos and fuck all colonisers. Die you filthy scum
>>211593760bait used to be believable
>>211593795I'm from Peru and I'm mostly native American. And you are all filthy scum that obliterated the culture of my ancestors.
>>211593760Very ungrateful. We’re taking the bowler hats back.
>>211591012yeah good point. huh.
>>211593890Is that why you're spending your time on a website made by colonizers? Speaking the colonizers' language? Fucking twat, go back to growing beans or sacrificing children to the Sun God or whatever the fuck you maggots do
>>211584873 (OP)It's a shame the next movie directed by Mark Dindal didn't turn out as funny
>that brief window of time where Disney actually made cool stuff that didn't feel like it was for little girls
What happened?
>>211594222I miss when Disney used to throw one in for the boys once in a while. When was the last “boy” Disney movie? Big Hero 6? That was what like a decade ago?
>>211594222Groove, Atlantis and Treasure Planet all bombed. Then John Carter bombed and Disney said fuck it, we’re buying Marvel and never making anything for lil boys again. Also little boys give all their money to legal gambling-er I mean gaming now.
>>211594503>Then John Carter bombed and Disney said fuck itDisney let it bomb on purpose to make way for the Star Wars sequels, as they just spent 4 billion on that and really wanted to recoup those costs.
Can't have another space opera franchise in its way
>>211591051The movie was also so rushed it had no real script or story board, so they literally just made up whatever bullshit they thought was funny as they went.
>>211594503Why did they buy two major boy properties, and immediately turn them into girl properties?
>>211591527I want a nani gf and wife so bad its unreal
>>211593760My best friend is 100% full blooded native peruvian and his extended family is still in a small shitty dirt village and he loves this movie so suck a penis and a cock and a dick
>>211584873 (OP)Very short run time. It says what it wants to say and gets out of there.
>>211593152you probably got caught doing something gay
>>211591694no, because they aren't woke. we are at the tail end of a real period in media history where the people making movies got completely fucking owned by a big dumb egregore.
actually i take it back, pocahontas might have been a bit woke, it's very Noble Savage core
>>211594687There might’ve been a regime change during production, which always leads to the new guys putting old productions they didn’t start on the pay no mind list. It’s been a while since I’ve read about the production. Changing the title last minute was pants on head retarded.
>>211594851Hubris. And their evil plan did work for a decade, every Marvel up to Endgame was a hit and the first two NuWars made more money than god. It was a total soiboi cultural victory in the 10s.
>>211584873 (OP)>72 minutes long (without credits)I like how short it is. Doesn't overstay its welcome
>>211591863When I was a kid my brother and I would climb in the dryer and intentionally have the other turn it on. Kids are such pussies now.
>>211584964>i can speak squirrel>ahem>squeakity squeak... squeak squeakemkronk is probably the best character disney ever wrote
>>211593760>As a peruvian that is mostly native americanI'm guessing the residual part isnigger
>>211595186Nah, Pocahontas is still ultimately "white people depicting and romanticizing natives" that's still vaguely chuddy
>that part during the chase back to the palace where they cross the chasm on a rope and cut it, the music builds as Yzma and Kronk put on goggles and prepare the wings on her carriage thingy, the music peaks as they sail into the air and then suddenly cuts out as they randomly get struck by lightning on a perfectly clear day
>>211595186Noble Savage is unironically not woke in my opinion. It's basically white romanticising their adversary as some sort of worthy opponent. Woke depiction if them usually potray them as weak and defenseless.
>>211591177Did South America have bamboo? I thought that originated from asia
>>211595186>Pocahontas has an entire song about white people genociding nativesCome on… you know you’d call it woke
>>211598264that song makes explicit effort to cut both ways, the indians call the white men savages too
>>211592043this is a 10/10 compared to emperor's new slop.
>>211594078Yzma is turned into a cat at the end of the first movie.
In the second movie (it wasn't very good) she still has cat ears and tail.
it's legitimately insane they cut Eartha Kitt's song
>>211587302Yeah but then we got too much Kronk in the second movie and you know how that turned out. It's like adding salt to a dish
>>211593760>>211593890>Conquers by far the largest empire in New World>Domesticates the only pack animals in the New World>Somehow learns to write with rope of all things>Actually figures out bronze>Was first indigenous (rump) state to adopt Euro arms and tacticsWhy seethe, Inca bros, like your victims? Your glorious empire lost to another glorious empire. Many such cases. Move on.
>>211600132nta ok you actually made me feel better
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i might be an idiot but i never noticed the candle joke
>>211590965>>211591207>>211593337Whats wrong with Titan AE? I thought it was decent.
>>211600346One other thing I left out because there no hard evidence that I know of, but it's fun to think about
>One of the previous Sapa Incas leads an expedition into the Pacific Ocean in search of new lands.>Legends say he returned with exotic captives and animal skins
>>211600586I think the secret novelty of this movie that it's sprinkled to the brim with 'small detail jokes' and noticing them and kek'ing loudly is part of the appeal
>>211600814NTA but I assume you’re referring to the tales of Tupac Yupanqui who is believed to have landed on the Polynesian islands during the expansion of the Inca empire. It’s still debated to this day how they would have been able to pull this off since they were still stuck with the reed and balsa rafts introduced by the Moche and Chimu cultures located in the northern coast of Peru.
>>211591863Statistcally, how many kids have went into dryers? Was this really a needed change? Why is Disney such bitches?
>>211600132>build impressive architecture in the second highest mountain range in the world>incredible masonryThe Incas were on another level
>>211602242it consists entirely of adults who identify with the children in the movies. rumors about "that one kids who went in a dryer and died" spread like wildfire among them
Conmemerative llama strout
>>211602352>Cyclopean masonry>But on top a mountainMy back hurts just thinking about it.
>>211602352Indeed, each stone is perfectly laid on top of each other that there are no gaps of any kind and thus, not even a piece of paper can be inserted between them. It has stood the test of time for hundreds of years even after many earthquakes that have devastated the region.
>>211602352only half as interesting as their sophisticated terrace farming
>>211602352They literally had nothing else to do.
Also wouldn't using non-uniform bricks be easier?
You just have to shape that bitch to fit on the spot. It isn't like they were designing them in CAD and meeting exact specifications.
>>211600132They also didn't exist in a vaccuum, there's a slew of ancient civilizations in the area that built atop another
>>211600132>>Somehow learns to write with rope of all thingsSadly we’ll never know what each knot of the ropes tried to represent, but there are some theories that point out that it was related to some sort of numerical system for agricultural purposes. The only people who had such knowledge are said to have died due to the diseases brought by the Spaniards afterwards, while the remaining Inca loyalists took refuge with Manco Inca in the deep rainforest of Cuzco, never to be seen again.
>>211588615>That baking scene in Kronk's new grooveHow did disney get away with it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXfkRJwCP44
>>211593271Yeah, but who didn't?
>>211584943yeah this movie was always a huge step down from classic 90s disney
Why do people like this movie? It's so contrived and frustrating
>>211602483Why would adults identify with the children? I have yet to have ever heard about someone not seeing their kid in the dryer or it automatically turning on and them dying. I remember this one video of some black couple putting their kid in the washer/dryer for the lulz and it getting locked, but got them out.
Another thing is the 9/11 plane, I mean I get it happening recently to the release of the movie, but I don't get how they feel as though people seeing the original scene that people are gonna have some hate or some kinda ptsd seeing a plane and tower next to each other. Would it really trigger something in someone to just have a plane flying around? Are people that SAWFT and any amount of complaining that people will bend the knee that easily?
>you got that sweety?
>three oinkers wearing pants, plate of hot air, basket of grandma's breakfast and change the bull to a gill, got it.
>>211584943It was originally supposed to be a musical called "Kingdom of the Sun" but I think the success of Shrek changed its development direction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbIoa4zA9Vg
>>211604854because they never properly grew up. they have no children of their own, if they have siblings at all, they too have no children. it's a generation of people who remain the babies of their family, and plan to until their death
>>211605014>but I think the success of Shrek changed its development directionexcept that Shrek premiered 5 months after Groove
>>211605103Who ever they are getting for these tests screenings for the films are complete cancer, I can only imagine the animators having to go back and changing slight details just because some Disney adult kid is over thinking possibilities of what a kid might do and yes kids are dumb, but I think a kid going into a dryer/washer is definitley a lack of parenting and supervision, but what does it matter just a dude ranting about some stoopid Disney movie scene.
>>211605517it's too late, the animators are themselves now exclusively sufferers of peter pan syndrome. there's nothing to do but wait for it to collapse and pray that whatever replaces it is better
>>211594851They thought boys would remain locked into those two properties no matter what they did and thought pandering to girls could get them even more money.
>>211605568How are the animators suffering from peter pan syndrome? They are just draw monkeys, they got no say about it.
>>211592388>>211593204It's called being young, dumb and wanting to be filled with cum
>>211605671It's this. It's the same problem Marvel Comics experienced when they made All New All Different. It's weird how MCU keeps making all the same mistakes the comics made.
>>211601462>the plant Yzma dumps her poisoned drink into turns llama-shaped in the next shot, right as Kuzco is transforming
>teaching kids to poison people you don't like
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>>211603554No motherfucker it means each piece is custom handfit after being carried up a mountain. It yields great results but is far too labor intensive and is why the modern age uses preforms
>>211606242Still a film faggot
>1997: Hercules
>1998: Mulan
>1999: Tarzan
>2000: Fantasia sequel, The Emperor's New Groove
>2001: Atlantis The Lost Empire
>2002: Lilo & Stitch, Treasure Planet
Good times
>>211604326It just goes on and on....
>>211584873 (OP)they had the balls to say "hey this script fucking sucks, change almost everything about it"
movies are so bland nowadays because everyone's too scared to give actual criticism
>>211584873 (OP)i have never watched this but recognized it's popularity. did it age well? should i watch it?
>>211591863>it's actually an old change for the UK releasefucking brits, man
>>211591669I think him and R Crumb might share a taste lol
(along with Gauguin).
>>211607866>did it age well?You clearly didn't if you're considering watching a Disney movie by yourself
>>211591393I had this on vhs I loved this shit
>>211608273Good disney movies can be watched by all ages? That was their whole thing.
>>211605671Then they're fucking stupid.
Young boys with no major personal connection to Star Wars, aren't going to lock in to a franchise that predominantly stars women. That stands to reason.
>>211584873 (OP)for starters, the lead character was a piece of shit at the beginning of the movie, so across his adventure he actually goes through a learning arc to become a good person and a good leader for his people.
something as simple as that is impossible for modern writers to do, look at that new pixar movie, elio, his design, the cast and the setup were all planned first to be inclusive and to not anger any demographic, which means removing any potential for growth from elio, turning the whole thing into a bland and forgettable project.
>>211584873 (OP)reminder this age is over and (((disney))) will never shart out a new good animation from the asses of their dyke and gay writers
>>211603448Thanks chatgpt!
>>211591393I always pictured butler from artemis fowl like a nicer version of the evil butler in this movie
>>211607014Nah those were definitely the dark times. Lion King was probably their last banger for a bit and then there was a 10 year drought
>>211584964hes literally me
>>211591863Pizza, you say?
>>211593890Do something about it pussy. You get subjugated because you deserve it.
>>211610352come to think of it, he probably inspired my mental image of Butler too. i think mixed with, like, Lurch from the Addams Family
>>211610520It's not that dire. That list is mostly flawed gems, the worst of them is infinitely more admirable than anything Disney has released in the last ten years. And a couple of them are outright great
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>>211609100>should my character be flawed?>no, it's the world that misunderstands them
>>211584918Helps the actors were mostly white so we didn't have to hear stupid brown accents
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>>211598876Goofy the nigger movie
>>211587380dont be disingenuous you looney lefty
>>211611752there's nothing requiring Disney to be like this, it's entirely a function of the people they have in the writing room right now. they made plenty of adventurous films beloved by all sorts of kids before they filled their staff with blob people
>>211595632That's exactly what Noble Savage means, you dipshit. You just retreaded his post.
>>211607866Watched it recently with my kids. They loved it. Agreed well since it's just slapstick comedy
>>211611959I think they're leaning into the wrong parts of what made them successful, and now they're also more risk averse and appealing to the types of parents who would pay for this stuff. They also have a brand and reputation around making cute inoffensive movies, so they do this with even boy-related stuff despite it generally not appealing to boys
>>211611959giving them the benefit of the doubt regarding any ideological cult mentality, I see it first as a money issue instead, they bloat their budgets too much and with the money, they have to get the retarded executive producer meddling with the creative process. too much money, too many retarded people getting cold feet about everything, ending up with a project having all of its potential, voice and risks removed, in favor of a safer, sanitized and non offensive setup.
>>211612295nah, there are lots of companies where that's a valid criticism, but disney has always been a high production cost firm. hand animation has always been a pricy medium. they just genuinely lack quality talent right now
Been watching The mysterious cities of gold with my kids. The inca's seemed pretty cool.
Zia is cute. Cute!
>>211600638They're fags. Decent is a good way to describe it. It has Smash Mouth, and it's just cool.
>>211613378it's got a hole in it somewhere. idk what the problem is precisely, but the fact that i watched it as a kid and basically never thought about it at all afterward suggests it's missing something vital
>>211591177I always felt hungry watching this
The Playstation 1 came prepackaged with this and final fantasy 9. Fantastic Xmas present. The game was decent for a movie tie in. My wampii¡!!!!
>>211591694they are woke, people just didn't recognize it back then.
HAHAHA ZOOMERS WILL NEVER KNOW THIS KINO
>>211584873 (OP)It felt like it wrapped up too quickly, couldve been another 20 minutes easily
>>211614079Nah. 72 minutes was enough
I TURNED MYSELF INTO A LLAMA
>>211598116Still does, yes. But even if they didn't, I don't think they had 50's diners either.
>>211614259it's a matter of verisimilitude. anachronism is played for laughs, things which aren't native to the setting and also aren't highlighted as a joke stick out
>>211591325No wonder they cut it since it doesn't make a lick of sense for the story they ended up going with, but damn, not having Eartha Kitt sing was a crime. Absolute queen.
>>211614400they really should have found some way not to waster her talent, she was so good
>>211611752Why did you screenshot this post?
>let me guess you have a good personality
>>211585004The only part of the show I remember is when a Spanish exchange student shows up. Kusco doesn't like him and starts getting suspicious of him, with the show seeming to imply that Kusco is in the wrong for just being jealous, if I remember right.
But historically speaking, all of them would be absolutely right to distrust this guy.
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>>211584873 (OP)No idea. First animated shit post movie for sure
Good trailer
https://youtu.be/vjlPrTzOPUI?feature=shared
>>211617274bruh, bakshi made an entire career off putting out animated shitposts
>>211584873 (OP)Disney last great movie, everything has been downhill ever since.
>>211584873 (OP)Patrick Warburton was involved. The man has never not been funny
>>211591694My dad certainly scoffed at Pocahontas but not Emperor's New Groove or Lilo and Stitch.
>>211617463fucking kike just put out his Talmudic beliefs on screen, it doesn't count
>>211613587Parts of it lingered in my brain until I figured out what movie I was recalling.
It definitely has holes, but I could probably watch it once a month without getting sick of it.
>be disney
>fuck up artemis fowl
>there is no slow burn scene in the movie where butler runs past a suit of armor and stops
>cut to 6 foot 5 butler in armor with a mace beating the shit out of a troll
man its literally best scene in the entire series and they dont include it
>>211608962He said by yourself. They're family movies.
>>211584918Just admit that you have been radicalized
>>211584873 (OP)This was Disney going full Looney Tunes and it actually worked
>>211585112genuinely, how did Disney make such kino? no film before or after (maybe Lilo and Stitch ) was as funny
>>211594178It's funny in a ironic way to zoomers
>>211594372I don't know what exactly counts as a boy movie, but I guess Coco if you count pixar?
>>211584873 (OP)the movie had an extremely tumultuous writing process and was rewritten multiple times. its a completely diff film than was original planned check out the doc about it
good movie btw
>>211586002it doesnt overstay its welcome
>>211584943I think it's cause it's very small scale drama compared to other Disney Renaissance films. Like if David Mamet wrote a Disney flick.
>>211598116Of course, whole forests of it even, but it's a different species and almost never called bamboo by the locals.
>>211592043I agree.
>>211598876I watched both recently and it really isn't.
>>211584943>but it feels like a made for tv materialBecause it was David Spade and John Goodman. Sure they've done lots of movies but in the 90s they were also on likely more recognizable from their sitcoms. Spade had Just Shoot Me and Goodman had Roseanne.
>>211605183Shrek is just so influential that it warps space time and inverses causality.
>>211591393>babysitter takes brothers and I to movie theater>it's Cats Don't Dance>only ones in theater>babysitter starts a food fight with us>almost get kicked outKino experience
>>211595546The dryer and behind the freezer were the best hiding places in the house for Hide n Seek.
>brothers and I playing hide n seek one day>little brother is "it">hide in dryer>lil bro starts crying because can't find us>decide to surprise/spook him>kick dryer door open>door smacks him square in the nose>cries become screams>get spanked and put in timeout
>>211585974That didnt happen
>>211591756>neomarxists claim that the only way forward is to destroy all of society and make it anew, Can you show me an example of anyone saying this?
>>211584943New Groove was originally an entirely different movie that they just threw in the trash halfway through production and quickly threw this version together. So it makes sense that it feels a little cheaper and smaller than those other movies
>>211606343They're just following the canon source material :^)
>>211624557He meant cultural marxism
>>211584873 (OP)Title makes no sense to me. Something about a him turning into a llama or something. Muh ancient Americas. That's all I know, so no reason/motivation to ever watch it.
Don't blame me. Blame Disney's shitty marketing.
>>211624729Not really. Some of the comics changes were made by feige before getting movies for them made. It's the most retarded move ever, since they could instead make movies based on the most popular stories already published years prior
>>211626171Elaine... need your keys.
>>211591694they wouldn't come out today you stupid grifting nigger
>>211621362sweet tranny tears
nobody likes your kind, people simply tolerate you to keep you off their backs
>>211585112>that's it>*pumps fork*>she's going down
>>211584873 (OP)This movie was my first PS2 game
>>211591694We don't have to guess. Mulan did come out, and Norte Dame was redone. Both were soulless turgid dogshit. They were remade woke where the woman poc was a soulless omnipotent mary sue.
>>211609100people with no life experience, grown in their bedrooms and college, are running these companies... mostly... now.
>>211584873 (OP)historically dishonest
>>211591046I remember watching a single episode of this as a kid because I loved the movie and thinking "I go to school every day and hate it I don't want to watch a cartoon about going to school"
>>211584943That’s due to more serious and dramatic direction rather than quality. Hence why you mentioned garbage flops like Titan A.E and Ph*roah wank in the same vein as kino like Lion King
>>211614400They gave her a song in Kronk's New Groove at least.
>>211585004No it was not, having him go back to school made no sense
It has one of the best songs Sting has ever written playing over the credits.
In the quiet time of evening
When the stars assume their patterns
And the day has made his journey
And we wondered just what happened
To the life we knew before the world changed
When not a thing I held was true
But you were kind to me
And you reminded me...
That the world is not my playground
There are other things that matter
And when a simple needs protecting
My illusions all would shatter
But you stayed in my corner
The only world I knew was upside down
And now the world and me, I know you carry me
>>211632204This is exactly why all of Disney and Pixar’s movies focus on “muh generation trauma” lately. These “writers” haven’t lived life, they have no life experience, they have NOTHING to write about, NO stories to tell. Which is why the keep defaulting on “muh mommy and daddy didn’t understand me!!”
>>211624455It didn't. Treasure Planet bombed, this only had a very underwhelming box-office performance.
>Chicken Run
>The Emperor's New Groove
>Shrek
>Atlantis: The Lost Empire
>Monsters, Inc.
>Ice Age
>Lilo & Stitch
>Finding Nemo
>Brother Bear
>Shrek 2
>Shark Tale
>The Incredibles
>The Polar Express
>Robots
>Madagascar
>Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
>Chicken Little
2000-2005 western animation movies that grossed more than 150 million worldwide
>>211636168As you can see, movies with a cult following like The Road to El Dorado, Titan A.E., Treasure Planet, and Corpse Bride aren't included
>>211636168People can mock Shark Tale all they want nowadays, but it was very successful in 2004
>>211591694>modern disney>making kinoDoubtful
Emperor's New Groove and Atlantis weren't flops. They just didn't perform as well as they hoped. Treasure Planet was a flop tho.
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>that jump cut to the old man getting thrown out
>>211584873 (OP)Just like Space Jam, it's a comedy movie that quickly/smoothly accomplishes what it sets out to do, and then gets the hell out before overstaying its welcome.
>>211587772You meant discreet here, but discrete is another word (like, to describe something “distinctly separated” or something like that). The latter is isn’t used often but it’ll still trick autocorrect into letting you fuck yourself
Love the facial expressions in this film
>>211591863How is hiding in an oven any better?
Did the TV show have to run the "pull the lever" joke into the ground?
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>>211591527There’s no way you wouldn’t hear a grown woman climb onto a dryer.
>>211637339No one asked, grammar nazi
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>>211591527>this was affordable in Hawaii on a single waitress salary in 2003
Is Kronk a traditional Peruvian name?
It sucks when a good animation movie is run into the ground with sequels (either theatrical or home video) and TV shows, especially if they aren't as good as the original movie.
>>211638057Treasure Planet is one of the few Disney movies that avoided that fate. Obviously because it flopped.
>>211586002Does it need to be longer?
>>211638241Treasure Planet and Atlantis both deserved to do better but I'm glad modern Disney doesn't seem to have them in their sights to remake live action anytime soon. Modern Disney would shit them both up so fucking much.
>>211636313I guarantee it's that fucking "shrek 2 is the worst movie ever made" loser that always starts off by posting unrelated wikipedia shit
It's called a cruel irony. Like my dependence on you.
>>211584918It took place in South America ipso facto they were aztec people. If it was made now they’d all be live action niggers leaping around.
>>211584993Elaine and Putty.
>>211584873 (OP)In no way is this movie a 10/10
It's cute and funny but people really hype it the fuck up when it's just a mediocre comedy
i remember being like 9 years old and seeing behind the scenes snippets of Emperor's New Groove on the disney channel in between episodes of Boy Meets World. Simpler times.
>>211593760Paint your fucking house
>>211639002>south america >aztec people
>>211639002All racists are morons and you're proof of it.
>>211639691>people who notice patterns and act accordingly are morons
>>211639997Did you notice that aztec people aren't from south america yet?
>>211637720wasn't this inherited tho?
>>211640032did you notice that i built a time machine and traveled back in time to when you were 6 years old and raped you and shot a huge load inside your tight little doodoo hole until it was leaking out?
>>211584873 (OP)Who fucking watched this Disney slop? As a kid I would get angry if my little sister wasted a rental on dog shit like The Lion King or Aladdin. What kind of enormous faggots watched Emperors New Groove as a kid? Were you molested or something?
>>211636168>only 4 of them are 2D animatedGrim
>>211595546Nigga kids nowadays will put their lives in danger for a TikTok challenge
>>211634690Sounds like the average NEET on 4chan
>>211584873 (OP)David spade has a great voice. Im surprised he never did cartoons
>>211602103I recently read Kon-Tiki which was about this. In the late 40s six Nords and a parrot sailed a balsa raft from Peru to the Polynesian islands to prove it could be done. It's a great read.
Then in the 70s the same guy sailed an Egyptian papayrus boat across the Atlantic to the Americas