Thread 211618722

Dabbing on Nu Trek Retards Edition

The best ship

>>211618722 (OP)
NuTrek status?

>>211618789
Cancelled and dabbed on
'fraid so

>>211618789
Strange New Worlds is only supposed to run for 16 more episodes through 2027
Starfleet Academy is guaranteed at least 20 episodes through 2026
The yet-untitled live action sitcom may or may not even be made.
After that, it'll probably die.
Oh well.

>>211618722 (OP)
Based
>>211618789
>STD: Cancelled (54 episodes)
>PIC: Cancelled (30 episodes)
>Lezzie Dykes: Cancelled (50 half-episodes)
>PRO: Cancelled (40 half-episodes)
>Strange New Women: Cancelled (46 episodes)
>NuTrek Social Media Accounts: Cancelled

Claim your HERO ship before some other captain does

A friendly reminder Trek returns this July with an all new S03 of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds on The Plus.

Let's Fly!

>>211618865
>The yet-untitled live action sitcom may or may not even be made
Skydance decides what gets greenlit at this point, they have veto rights despite not being in charge yet. I somehow doubt David Ellison (the Mission Impossible and Top Gun Maverick guy) is interested in an ego project by an actress who has never written a script before and the guy who made Dear White People.

How did they get away with this?

>>211618942
I don't bother with shows after they were cancelled. Most people don't either. Just look at The Witcher.
Sorry.

>>211618774
I had a toy version of this as a kid. You could slip your tongue into the split shell.

obligatory Troi thirst trap

>>211619047
I had that, the Enterprise, and a Vorcha, but no idea what they were until years later.

>>211618929
Damn now I want some bugles

>>211618886
>NuTrek Social Media Accounts: Cancelled
Wait, for real?

>>211619108
Fr fr.

Hey, new thread means I can post all my naughty Tendi pictures again! None of that "duplicate image exists" crap! And maybe I'll give that uptight seether-anon a coronary! Because this is LITERALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE!!!1!

>>211619108
NuTrek has been dying for years now

haven't rewatched trek in 10 years, last time I just did it in order, think about changing it up what should I start with now?

>>211619092
god I wish I had a holodeck

>>211619180
Enterprise. Chronological order.

>>211619215
Soon

"Meta" or "self-aware" writing - the death of sincerity - has killed media.

>>211619215
>>211619233
Holodeck is real and it's called ChatGPT. Bluesky troons hate this for some reason thoughbeit.

>>211619180
Lower Decks. It's the parody this stuffy, uptight, overwrought, fart-sniffing commercial entertainment product needed. Plus, Tendi is cuddly.

>>211618886

> All Carpet Trek cancelled decades ago in the Clinton-Bush years.

New goes on Forever. That is Life. That is Fate.

>>211618722 (OP)
Right in the spaceballs

>>211619284
And people keep talking about it instead of your NuTrek tranny slop. I know that keeps you up at night.

>>211618789
dead as a doornail

>>211619246
Thank you, David Foster Wallace. Too bad you an-hero'd.

>I hate Star Trek
>I couldn't wait for someone to come along and make an officially licensed parody of Star Trek to show how dumb and stupid it is
we know.

>>211619246
It has to be in service of something. What passes for meta humor in mainstream entertainment is just a pointless self-indulgent gimmick.

I think the best thing is that it makes the people who ruined Memory Alpha upset.

>>211619403
Actually, I liked TNG, even though it was basically social workers in space.

>>211619266
>Implying ChatGPT is a rape simulator

>>211619314
Three more seasons of SNW isn't exactly "dead as a doornail". But your sense of humor sure is.

Thank God this guy's night time meds always kick in around this time

It's almost over, boys. Hold the line.

>>211619403
The truth about NuTrek "fans" is that they're parasites. They can't sustain their own fan spaces so they invade and ruin someone else's, but 4chan is one of the last few places where you can actually tell them that their gaping axe wound doesn't make them real women. They are envious little troons.
But they'll move on soon enough. You can't build a fandom on shitty shows that are only good for trolling.

Data took over or seriously threatened the ship at least three times that I can remember, and Geordi's visor caused him to nearly assassinate someone and then lost the whole ship. There's really no reason either is even allowed to serve anymore, they're way worse than Ensign Ro.

>>211619539
It's called "going to bed". It's something employed people do. Just like your poor, hapless mommy and daddy. And you're the only one on meds here. Zoomers can't survive without their antipsychotic pills.

>>211618722 (OP)
nutrek sucks but thats a new low for an op

>>211619246
>>211619324
>>211619415
sincerity in tv is still alive in kdrama land though they are try to kill that too

>>211619619
Get back in your cagey, seething wagey!

>>211619619
>>211619532
>>211619482
>>211619268
>>211619169


Lower Decks is here for you
It's your favorite Star Trek crew
They're so quirky, cool and fun
It's the best cartoon in town
Trek's no longer just for nerds
Join Paramount+ with your friends
We have Mariner, Boimler too
Tendi is trans and so will be you

We will breach final frontier
By accepting folks who's queer
Strong black female is our lead
Dabbing on white boys indeed
Kurtzman's vision guides us now
Be inclusive and have fun
We're best Star Trek, through and through
Tendi is trans and so will be you

NuTrek shows are here to stay
Support all who's black or gay
Eat your bugs and drink your söy
Be a good, obedient goy
Buy subscription and consume
Don't use words "tranny" or "troon"
CBS tells you what to do
Tendi is trans...

Tendi is trans...

Tendi is trans...

Tendi is trans and so will be you!

>https://vocaroo.com/16xoKwi3KGQJ

>>211618942
>Four and a half Vulcans
What is cuter,a midget Spock or a baby Spock?

updated

t'pol has entered pon farr again - whats your escape&evade plan for the next two days? keep in mind she is 3-5 times stronger than you

>>211619268
Averages out to one(1) pair of normal eyes.

>>211618886
>picrel
How embarrassing...

>>211619911
One of the worst parts about ENT is how miscast she was

She is legitimately a terrible actress and it's very obvious why she was cast, and it wasn't ability

>>211620010
Vulcan's shouldn't be good actors

>>211620010
>how miscast she was
My dick says otherwise.

>>211620080
Nonsense. Nimoy was great and his acting ability added a ton to the role. Same goes for Mark Leonard, and they will always be the two most important Vulcan actors in Trek.
>>211620101
Jeri Ryan was also super hot but also a good actress.

>>211620010
Of anyone on ENT, I think Scott Bakula was horribly miscast.

>>211619716
Your mom wants you to stop staring at her breasts, or else no more tendies for you. Oh yeah, that remind me...Tendi...

> Leaves out Star Trek: Short Treks. Leaves out Star Trek: Starfleet Academy.

One single job.

>>211620010
Filling out that catsuit was definitely an ability I appreciated.

>>211620186
I think she should be sent ta a Cardassian labor camp.

>Short Treks
Does not count.

>>211618521
>hurr durr I BELIEEEEEEVE
>muh life revolves around a show featuring giant salamanders having sex
I like Trek and everything, but jeez, get a life.

>Nu-Trek mod trying to kill discussion in /trek/ out of seething
>doesn't realize there is a much better Trek thread up on another board right now and great discussion and shitposting is being had
that's what we over on /pw/ call a KWAB

>>211620129
I expected Bakula to fade out and end up somewhere else at the end of every episode. Sure would have been a kinder fate.

>>211620123
Nimoy wasn't great, he was just first. He failed to convey the emotionless posture of a Vulcan more often than not, and was just sort of a straight man human. Vulcans should always be a little bit wooden.

>>211618819
>people are more interested in getting autographs from a guy who mostly played one off aliens and one recurring character than the people who played main characters in nu-trek
kek

Tuvok is the greatest Vulcan main character ever.

>>211618886
What I find remarkable is that each and every one of these shows eventually managed to insult its own audience (as small as it was). Kurtzman never disappoints.

/new trek/i
/nutrek/i
/short treks/i

>>211620391
Yes. Tim Russ played Vulcan to absolute perfection. Spock is more iconic but Tuvok was better acted.

>>211620391
Correct

>>211620363
It's good that quite literally everyone in history disagrees with you, including Tim Russ and everyone who has ever played a Vulcan. You've got a good eye, anon!

>>211620391
>>211620427
Tim Russ is a perfect Vulcan because that's just how he is. Every time I see him in anything else, he's basically just a very slightly more emotive Tuvok.
Also he snaps Neelix's neck which is kino

>>211620332
I figured seething-anon was crying into his pillow by now. Thanks for confirming.

>>211620332
Wrestling is fake

Does he actually think he's making some kind of statement by spamming poorly-drawn (probably AI generated) NuTrek images?

>>211620519
Yeah, but which is more fake, pro wrestling or Star Trek's "science"? Voyager really doubled down on the fake science. So cringe.

>>211620536
Already added them to my filter. It's a comfy thread so far

>>211620427
>>211620494
I always love Tuvok's sarcasm and dry wit.
>How did you obtain this information?
>We are Borg.
>*raises eyebrow* Naturally.

>>211619246
TRVKE
that's why the 90s is goated across all categories

Why does he do it? Just pointless hate?

>>211620536
someone should just post some gore so the Redditor fucks off back to where he came from

>>211620619
You would think that being a mod, or janny, or whatever he is that lets him avoid all rules or consequences for breaking them, he would be able to retaliate by removing /trek/ altogether from /tv/ but I guess Swaglord or somebody that outranks him forbids it

so he just ruins the thread instead

>>211620619
SNW got canceled a couple of days ago and won't even get a full final season. The NuTrek pronoun crowd has been crashing out since.

by god I cannot express to you how much I hate this episode. i hate every single thing that happens in it.

>>211620619
He (you) seeks attention

>>211620619
>Why does he do it? Just pointless hate?

I AM KIROK!

>>211620756
I love this episode, the wigs are hilarious, and the Constitution part is dimes

>>211620586

> I added that to my filter! Along with thousands of other images and words! That's not sad! That's not creepy!

>>211620763
>seeks attention
absent father giveaway

In Trek Xtended Media, Kirk is being revived and set forward to the Star Trek: Discovery Era. The 30th whatever Century one.

Tiberius/Michael becomes Canon

>>211620391
https://youtu.be/zMu5u-aUk_w

he's good but all the vulcans that follow spock kind of miss the point. they are all high-strung to the point where they come off as annoyed and arrogant all the time. spock used his logic, but his tone of voice would hardly shift unless it was an intense scene. every vulcan since is annoyed all the time by everything

You guys saw this short film, right? It was produced by Shatner as a good bye to Leonard. The only good Star Trek thing produced in the last 20 years and it was made by a literal ad for a render farm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgOZFny7F50

>211620854
>blue hair
Sack Heather Antos. I'm glad IDW is going under.

>>211620917
It was alright but I feel like everyone's desperation for anything remotely Trek made people vastly overrated it also.

>>211620536
Back already? I thought you decamped for your oh-so-superior thread in some other board. What, did you get bored talking to yourself? I mean, I understand. If I was you, I'd be bored out of my skull.
>>211620619
I'm having a nice evening, posting pictures of a little green cutie. You've got a stick up your ass the size of a telephone pole. I must say, all the things you're seething about reveal a lot about you. For instance, you take this show way too seriously, and you have no sense of humor and no life.

>>211621025
Nah, it wasn't overrated. It's a beautifully shot and beautifully scored piece of art.

Star Trek is better when it's conservative and it's a fact most Trekkies find hard to swallow

>>211620774
I'M CAPTAIN KIRK!

I'M CAPTAIN... KIRK!

>>211621204
>Star Trek is better when it's conservative
Elaborate.

>>211621204
It was never conservative for its time, but something like "there are four lights" would be seen as chudcore rejection of troon newspeak today. Even the idea of a colorblind Federation is sort of right wing now.

>all this Nu Trek filth when we could've had an RDM led Trek show
Apologize

>>211621204
>>211621241
:02
:03
fuck off

>>211621204
Star Trek is only 'conservative' when viewed through a modern lens. In the 60s, Star Trek was anything but.

>>211621241
If you let liberals write Star Trek you'll be getting shit like people being autistic about their pronouns in STD, STP crying about how ICE is evil, or three seasons of lesbian relationship drama in LD
It's all gay and unwatchable. Conservative are capable of actually entertaining other viewpoints and telling stories for everyone. Liberals just want everything to be their commie gospel

>>211621298
>an RDM led Trek show
Would have been nice ten years ago, wouldn't want it today. People change over time, they catch brain worms, and RDM of today makes shit like For All Mankind, which is on par with Discovery.

>>211621298
Only Tony Gilroy can save Star Trek.

>>211621336
Except that Star Trek was NEVER made by conservatives. Conservatives in the 60s balked at the idea of having a Russian on the bridge, let alone a black woman.
Also, Star Trek is closer to communism than capitalism and always has been. The Federation is literally a moneyless society.

>>211621357
He knows the rules of Star Trek at the very least.
>>211621390
I like a lot of things about Gilroy's work but I think he's a little subversive for Trek. Maybe he could write something like DS9 in a really nice, serialized way, but he's not going to have an episodic style show that gets back to the fundamental optimism of Trek and that's what we need right now. Back to basics.

Once that is re-established, then you can have a DS9 type story again.

>>211619539
>i know when u go to bed, i also know my mom's menstrual cycle
You really have no life at all, do you. No wonder you seethe over "Wagon Train In Space" and "Social Workers In Space".

>>211621422
>Star Trek is closer to communism than capitalism and always has been
Man, tankie Trekkies are so funny. The Borg being a metaphor for communism completely went over their heads.

>replying to an old post that you've already replied to once because your (You)s are drying up in the face of actual discussion so you're desperate for attention
o i am laffin
last acknowledgment of the night, for pity

I'm watching the TOS episode with young Dr Pulaski

holy moly she's cute

>>211621298
>RDM led Trek show
NO
FUCKING
THANKS

>>211621422
Then why do people work in dilithium mines? What's their motivation? Admit it, your favorite show is hideously inconsistent.

>>211621517
She's in two episodes I think

and yeah she a cutie

>>211621484
I didn't say Star Trek WAS communism. I said it is CLOSER TO communism than it is to capitalism. Which is objectively the case, as the Federation is not in any way a capitalist society. It literally can't be, because there is no currency. You can't be a billionaire in the Federation.

>>211621517
theres a few of them. she was gorgeous then morphed into one of the golden girls

>>211621575
>Lower Drecks uniform
The jokes write themselves!

>>211621513
I would have gotten bored with this thread, if not for your seething. Now I'm motivated to come back tomorrow and do it all over again.

>>211621555
>Then why do people work in dilithium mines?
Because they want to. The same reason anyone in the Federation does any job, "to better themselves, and the rest of humanity."
>What's their motivation? Admit it, your favorite show is hideously inconsistent.
It has less to do with inconsistency and more to do with Gene Rodenberry being rather naively optimistic when it comes to human nature.

>>211621575
The Soviet Union proved they had a lot more to lose than their chains.

>>211621422
Being moneyless doesn't make them communists. They give everything to everyone. There is no class system and no poor people. The federation represents true world peace where people don't want for anything because everything can be obtained by anyone. Nothing like what modern communism is like.

>>211621692
The Soviet Union was still better than the Russian Empire that preceded it, though.

>>211621658
>Because they want to
OMG such utter mega cope.

>>211621422
>The Federation is literally a moneyless society.
The Federation is a cashless society, which is not the same as moneyless. They still do have currency, private property, capital, markets and other trappings of capitalism. Why do leftoid retards and commies claim otherwise when it is patently false? Why are you lying?

Movie Kirk: Red blooded All American boyscout who grew up on a farm in Iowa
TV Kirk: Intense, prudent leader who grew up on the wild frontier of the space colonies and understands the dangers of the universe

>>211621557
>no money means communism
This is the level of political literacy of the average Star Trek fan, everyone. The Federation has very little in common with communism, it's a highly individualistic society with extreme pressure on success. It's an idealized, money-less version of the American Dream really. If you seriously think China is closer to Roddenberry's utopia than the United States, I'm really not sure how can I help you.
In reality, the Federation represents a form merit-based economy, where service and excellence grants you better social status. Private property is alive and kicking as proven by Picard's family vineyard. If you're looking for a real political system close to the Federation, maybe resource-based economy, but it's not a perfect match either.

>>211621735
Dog food is better than dog shit, but that's not saying much.

>>211621721
>They give everything to everyone. There is no class system and no poor people
...which is essentially what communism, in its 'ideal' form, is. When people say "real communism has never been tried" this is the 'real communism' they're talking about.
But we don't live in Star Trek so 'real communism' is effectively impossible, because scarcity still exists, and unlike in Star Trek, most people are not altruistic and self-sacrificial.
>Nothing like what modern communism is like
Because 'modern communism' does not exist in the context of a post-scarcity society like the Federation.

>>211621735
Not really. Russians were always a savage people but at least they were tard-wrangled by their royalty. Communism completely unleashed their degeneracy and now we're left with a glorified terrorist state that is incompatible with the rest of the civilized world.

>>211621845
And there's still no clear motivation for people to mine dilithium.

>>211621735
It had better aesthetics at least, but the medieval tsardom was even more aesthetic

>>211621390
I want him to do a Tal Shiar show

>>211621741
It's the same cope Picard uses in First Contact to explain why people still work without getting paid.
>>211621753
They don't have currency though, and 'private property' in the context of the Federation is just shit like your house and maybe a small 'business' like a restaurant, except said 'business' doesn't have to worry about being profitable. "Cashless" would imply that everyone still has to pay for everything, just that they pay for it by swiping a futuristic credit card. Which they clearly don't do.
>>211621782
Chateau Picard has been in the Picard family since before fucking WW2. It doesn't really tell us much about the Federation's economic system at large, other than letting us know that they don't seize people's property.
Also, Chateau Picard is not a business at this point, it's more like a hobby farm.

>>211622096
>Chateau Picard has been in the Picard family since before fucking WW2
So you're just not going to address the rest of my post, and instead you're going to disingenuously get autistic over this detail?

ok I don't like this episode anymore seeing this alien use Spock and having him giddily conspire to kill Kirk is making me upset

>>211618774
no

>>211621557
Federation is nothing like communism.

>>211622146
The rest of your post is misunderstanding what I'm saying (I am not saying the Federation is communist, or that it resembles any communist country, what I'm saying is that it's closer to the unrealistic ideal of communism than it is to capitalism. Not the communism that actually gets implemented in reality, but the purely ideological fantasy of a classless, moneyless society), mixed with a dose of believing that modern China can be called 'communist' in anything but name.
The modern United States is nothing like Rodenberry's utopia. In Rodenberry's utopia, you don't elect retarded billionaires. In Rodenberry's utopia, you don't have to pay for healthcare. In Rodenberry's utopia, you don't have the fucking CIA doing heinous shit, or the ATF burning people alive. In Rodenberry's utopia, you aren't sent to die in a war to secure oil contracts for Haliburton. Need I go on?

>>211622249
The Double D has disruptor arrays the size of Excelsior's deflector, they'd knock half the saucer section off in one go

>>211622298
>In Rodenberry's utopia, you don't have the fucking CIA doing heinous shit

>>211619310
>>211622249
I thought excelsior class was ugly

>>211622385
you were wrong, except for the hole it has in the back of the stardrive section for no reason

>>211622249
It looks so pristine in that photograph yet in the movies it looks worse. Why?

> Because they want to! The same reason anyone in the Federation does any job, "to better themselves, and the rest of humanity."!

"To shreds you say?"

>nutrek is dying
>the 2020 discord gang rears its ugly head back in

>>211621517
dont google her now

>>211622358
Section 31 was post-Rodenberry
>>211622476
I didn't say it wasn't stupid.

>>211622545
They always scream the loudest when things start getting embarrassing for NuTrek

>>211622670
I like how the rocks literally look like painted expanding foam

>>211622563
Time burns us all. Even Dr. Crusher's red pussy hair is probably grey now.

>>211622298
>The modern United States is nothing like Rodenberry's utopia
I wasn't talking about modern United States. I was talking about the platonic ideal of the American Dream. TOS is essentially cowboys in space, Captain Kirk is the all-American boyscout ideal. Star Trek likes to think it's areligious but it's very deeply rooted in the Protestant work ethic.

>>211622545
I can't remember anyone on the old discord who liked Nu Trek though. VF, BF, Jansa, NTT, Dukatposter, everybody hated Nu Trek on there

>>211622718
>I wasn't talking about modern United States
But you were.
>>211621782
>If you seriously think China is closer to Roddenberry's utopia than the United States

Hey /trek/ I'm officially a red shirt and I've been assigned my first ship. I'm flying out to meet her in two days. Training was pretty intense but I learned how to rig mooring, contain fires, evacuate people and even pilot helm which is just like Star Trek with repeating and relaying the orders of the captain. I'm excited but if a line snaps and I'm in the snapback zone I could die. Unlike Star Trek I'm doing this for money. Here's to good fortune.

>>211622738
That's that server. I'm referring to the OTHER server.

>>211618865
>Strange New Worlds is only supposed to run for *26 more episodes through 2027
ftfy

>>211622802
Good luck, Red Shirt Anon. Give us updates when you can. I, for one, am interested in your fantastic voyage.

>>211622738
>Tillyfag
>MKUltra

>>211622856
wasn't on there when Tillyfag was on there and MKULTRA just spammed his weird shit in the videos channel and everyone on the server ignored his existence

>>211622827
the one you were a pedo on?

>>211619911
>escape&evade
Only cowards run. I choose to die with honor instead.

>she is 3-5 times stronger than you
Dont threaten me with a good time.

> 50 workers dissolved by an acid monster in just 3 months.

The Federation apparently doesn't have an OSHA.

>>211622802
Bon voyage, nonny. Post updates when you can

>>211619911
what if I let her fuck me?

>>211622802
>when you realize its one of those ships that only exists to be destroyed before the opening credits in order to build tension

>>211623019
It wouldn't be like you think. You'd basically be getting raped by a woman who sees you as less than, and who's vagina could leave a bruise where you really don't want one

growing weary of this
>Vulcans are basically indestructible
trope

I'm here to explore the folds of space

>>211623136
Don't worry, later Trek shows forget all about Vulcan super powers.

By the time ENT rolls around, they're just normal humans who can be punched out by Archer in a single blow.

>>211623074
>You'd basically be getting raped by a woman who sees you as less than
that's literally my fetish
>who's vagina could leave a bruise where you really don't want one
I already bruised my dick from jerking off too hard and for too long to indendant kira so its probably not a big deal

Start doing THIS

whats the point of a phaser rifle when the handgun can already blow half a building away?

>>211623554
uhhhhhhhh it looks seriouser

>>211623554
Just using the logic of the technology in the setting, I'm guessing
>larger power cell = more power for bigger boom
For times when you need to vaporize a whole building!

>Roddenberry's vision for Star Trek II:
>His initial idea involved time travel to the 20th century, with the Klingons attempting to prevent JFK's assassination, leading to a universe ruled by the Klingons. This concept was rejected by Paramount.

>Opposition to The Wrath of Khan:
>Roddenberry disliked the film's emphasis on action, violence, and revenge, feeling it strayed from his pacifist and intellectual ideals for the franchise. He especially disliked the death of Spock and the militaristic tone of the film. Roddenberry even attempted to sabotage the film by leaking the plot point about Spock's death to the press, hoping to incite fan backlash against the film.

>>211623519
milesmaxxing

>>211623554
more precise aim and yield for warfare i guess

>>211623631
I love Gene but his good idea to bad idea ratio was like 20/80

>>211623631
how the fuck does JFK not dying lead to Klingons ruling the universe

>>211620387
> played one off aliens and one recurring character
Hol up. He played Weyoun on DS9 but also the ferengi Brunt. Both recurring characters.
But then he played the Andorian Shran on Enterprise also recurring.
Frankly more character development in those characters than all of nuTrek main cast.

>>211623631
>This exciting, dramatic, poignant story about friendship and aging and sacrifice is not intellectual enough for Star Trek. Anyway here's my pitch for a movie where Kirk saves JFK from a Klingon glowop.

>>211623740
Space program turbocharges when humans get warp? By the 80s it was pretty clear the moon bases weren’t coming.

>>211623757
Ah yeah I forgot about those two. It's definitely a credit to Jeffrey Combs that he's able to play so many different characters without it being obvious that it's the same guy (sure the makeup helps, but he's able to differentiate them by voice and mannerisms as well).

>>211623631
He actually echoes some of my thoughts about WoK. It is a good movie but it undoubtedly took the Star Trek movie franchise into an action-adventure movie direction. I also feel WoK itself is a bit overrated and lacks Star Trek flavor. But then again I think TMP:TDE is the best Trek film of all time so that clearly makes me an outlier.

>>211623944
A retard, it makes you a retard

>>211624107
It makes him based

>>211624219
based on what? based on having extra chromosomes

>>211623631
Roddenberry's optimistic future is important and all but his cult of personality fucking confounds me, and clearly he bought into it too. NuTrek being so shit has revived a lot of the dogmatic proselytizing for Gene's Vision™ in its purest form, but even TNG under his direct supervision didn't obey his own edicts very faithfully. Everything in moderation.
>>211623944
I understand this criticism but I think WoK and the other TOS movies strike a satisfying balance of action-adventure and Trek sophistication and optimism. The TNG movies are when the franchise descended into violent action schlock. TMP is indeed the best though.

>>211623944
I agree.

The first TOS movie feels like a long TOS episode.
Wrath of Khan and everything that follows feels like an alternate universe, a more action movie, comedic Star Trek tailor made for the big screen.
It's popular but it's not at all like the kind of storytelling in TOS.

>>211623631
His seething about the militarism seemed not so much directed at an outside entity ruining his vision, but rather a retroactive mea culpa for making the original show so militaristic in contrast to his more pacifistic post-TOS views. He wanted to rewrite his own history.

>>211624373
Comedic is an odd thing to point out because TOS was very comedic. Except season 3 because Fred Frieberger forbade it.

>>211623074
oh god that sounds horrible!!!

>>211624510
Eh, TOS has lighthearted moments and a couple of more comedic episodes but the tone of the show is anything but light.

well I thought I was gonna get robbed of it at first but this episode delivered on letting me see McCoy dressed up as a Nazi

The thing I dislike about WoK is that it really isn't a sci-fi movie. You could take the entire plot and move it into a straight contemporary or period naval setting with no major alterations. There are also isn't character depth to it. With TMP you get an overarching sci-fi narrative that fits into the deeper character themes about Kirk's midlife crisis. WoK lacks that sort of depth, it's just a played straight action film where a bad guy comes back for revenge and must be stopped.

>>211621555
>Then why do people work in dilithium mines?
Because it is their way of contributing to society.

>What's their motivation?
Contributing to society. Not being bored.

>Admit it, your favorite show is hideously inconsistent.
It WOULD be if they didn't literally say that everyone's literal motivation is to contribute to society. everyones needs are taken care of in Star Trek so everyone basically works simply to contribute to society and not be bored. Like seriously, people take shitty jobs in real life that they take pride in when there are less shitty jobs that pay way more. The whole point of Star Trek is that humanity has evolved beyond the concept of capitalism.

Also, I'm mad that I can't get Tendi's hairstyle in STO.

>>211621658
>Because they want to
whatever you gotta tell yourself, bud

I completely reject the notion of no currency. It makes zero sense.

>>211619911
Is there cuddling involved and do I get to be the little spoon so I'll feel safe and protected?

>>211619047
toyfucker

>>211626092
it would basically be like getting taken by a gorilla, just its a sweaty slightly smelly vulcan girl instead

>>211626157
I don't think gorillas really do hard sex. Like, I think humans fuck harder than gorillas (and other great apes) do. It's like how people think gorillas have giant dicks but their penesis are like the size of a pencil.

Sweaty Smelly Vulcan girls a bonus tho.

>>211626157
Taken by a gorilla, you say?

>>211626389
TAKEN LIKE A WOMAN

can do 10 second vids now

>>211622096
>It doesn't really tell us much about the Federation's economic system at large, other than letting us know that they don't seize people's property.
>they don't seize people's property.
In other words - Federation is absolutely not communist.

>>211623265
To be fair, Archer is not an ordinary man.

The Federation is utopian capitalism because the means of production are largely owned by private citizens rather than the state. We can see that in Dilithium miners and the various independent colonists. The Federation simply enforces laws and provides support. The utopian aspect is that all forms of capital predation have been dealt with in one way or another.

>>211626476
i'm ok with that. is it these 3 guys?

>>211626879
Socialism/communism doesn't say anything about the means of production being owned by the state. They're about the means of production being owned by the workers, rather than individual capitalists.

>>211626937
Marxian socialism is when the state owns the means of production and private property is abolished.

>>211626937
>Socialism/communism doesn't say anything about the means of production being owned by the state
yeah it just always works out that way by pure coincidence

>>211626479
Imagine this being your Star Trek legacy

>>211627055
dios mios

>>211620387
Combs is just a nerd icon in general. He's the fucking reanimator

>>211620387
Combs is more kino than anyone else. His line should dwarf all others.

>>211627055
lol did she just walk into the wall
what an obnoxious shot

>>211618722 (OP)
>watch the season of STD 1
>nobody wears "DISCO" shirts on the show
>season 2 stars
>all characters start to wear "Disco"-shirts
Lol

What do we think of him?
I think he is a fucking retard.

>>211618819
Why would anyone want autograph from Doctor Gay or that faggot who ruined Kevin Spacey's career.

>>211620387
Combs was a big part of why the Vorta were so unsettling and effective as villains.
>Jeffrey Combs was, however, instrumental in developing the Vorta. "I kind of had a lot […] [of] input into kind of discovering and fleshing out who this species were," he remembered, "and how they carried themselves, and how they operated and deceived and reassured you and had you… killed." Combs enjoyed influencing "what this whole race of people is, what the Vorta's values are and what makes them tick."

>>211627508
Honestly surprised he's still alive

>>211626479
set penises to cum

>>211627508
>faggot who ruined Kevin Spacey's career
Qrd thought he was only accused by random whos

>>211627508
>that faggot who ruined Kevin Spacey's career
Kevin Spacey?

>>211618819
i'm not the autograph type but i just feel like the newer characters have no presence. literally anyone could read the lines in those show and it would still be the same for me. i don't like DS9 but coombs has played multiple characters and each had their own style and flair. those two might have more episodes (maybe?) but they are forgettable

>>211627450
They did wear them in season one desu
Also Tilly could actually jog

>>211627683
Rapp is a literal who

>>211627885
>Lieutenant, I'm afraid we have no choice but to restrict your replicator access.

>>211627885
it's insane they made an episode about her fitness and then she progressively got less fit through the series

>>211627986
Funniest is when she ran a mini marathon around the ship and set a new record

>>211627885
I liked season one

>>211628074
fat people in the future ruin my immersion

>>211622941
they don't do matte paintings like this anymore

>>211628272
How did you manage to watch the TOS movies then

>>211628284
It's a pity. Being able to build a cgi 3D model is quicker, but because the lighting is automatic and "realistic" it lacks art and soul.

>>211628284
they have ai now, congrats

>>211628315
He is robust and big bones not fat

>>211628315
Older people in senior positions can be fat. Someone in their 20s and supposedly a member of an elite totally not military should not be morbidly obese.

>>211628315
That's a pretty good fall for an old guy

>>211628315
He's an older man of rank, not a cadet. If makes a difference.

>>211628467
You can say that again

>>211628315
That's a really bad corridor design

>>211628536
Shat is peak physical form

>>211628583
the ship designers should be shot

>>211628272
if there were no BBWs in the future I would KILL MYSELF

>>211618722 (OP)
But STD S1 already had a white male who was better than Pike before the Mirror Universe character assassination bullshit, and it sucked anyway

>>211628074
don't you fucking do it >>211627055
>>211626479 don't fucking dare to do it

>>211618909
I'm an enterprise C man myself, I just like that it looks like it's got some weight to it, some thickness.

>>211628617
He went to space like that so totally fine

>>211629342
That was so strange. The message appears to be
>it's what's on the outside that counts
because they condemn Lorca who has done nothing wrong, and bring the evil Empress back home to be a doppelganger for Captain Asian Lady

why is voyager bad

>>211629626
That's why they couldn't make it to orbit

>>211629659
It isnt

>>211629659
good if you watch it piecemeal, but it has essentially no continuity.

>>211618909
I feel like the nacelles were suppose to light up

>>211629659
Mostly bad characters
Poor use of the premise

>>211629689
>no continuity
isnt most of star trek like that though.
most episodes in star trek are not direct sequels of the previous episode.

>>211630042
Yes but the voyager's unique premise would have benefited a lot from having more continuity. They started the show with 2 shuttlecraft yet lost 17 over the course of the series.

>>211630193
>implying their energy reserves could not replicate 15 shuttlecraft over the period of the show
check

>>211630193
If they could build the Delta Flyer they could get more basic shuttles

>>211630193
>Yes but the voyager's unique premise would have benefited a lot from having more continuity.
this but tng too. DS9 had much better continuity than tng

>>211630193
They have replicators, dummy. They rebuild shuttlepods piece-by-piece. Like in that Johnny Cash song. There's an entire 'sode where the design and build a shuttle from scratch. The Delta Flyer. So, obviously that can repair and build ships when they already have the specs and parts in the computer's database. Silly point. Fully leaning into the premise. And having a desperate situation. Alone in the Delta Quadrant. Fighting to survive. Fighting amongst themselves, with a half Markey crew. Like Year of Hell. But, the whole show. Bad idea. Too grimdark. Too edgy. Too mallwalkery. Too NuTreky. I'm glad they kept it fun.

>>211618819
Do they have to just sit there? Waiting?

Why is this dude posting the same cartoon alien over and over.

>>211630732
his name is trekpu and I just like to post him is all

>>211630732
he's into trains because they go chu choo

>>211630732
probably a jannie

>>211631080
That explains the tranny artwork

>>211631026
He's a big guy. Does he have a wife?

>>211627683
No, he was the first one.
He had been accusing Kevin Spacey of that shit for years, but everyone ignored him.
Once he gained a sizeable following with his STD role, he immediately used it to resume accusations. Which caused the Weinstein effect of people joining the chorus.
Kevin Spacey replied he literally doesn't remember meeting Rapp 30 years ago, but if something did happen, he is sorry for it.

>>211627885
Tilly wasn't always fat?

>>211629342
>>211629630
Lorca was great, but 90% of the character was just Jason Isaacs's swagger leaking, certainly not the writing.
I don't think he is capable of writing a poor performance, no matter how little he is given.

>>211631269
Canonically, I don't know. I'll have to check memoryalpha

I honestly think we're at the point of a.i it's possible to make a 30 minute soft-core smut Star Trek episode

>>211631458
He's a lucky guy

>>211631357
mass increases as you approach c

>>211631674
Hey, how'd you do that. How'd you make this art?

>>211631714
i'm just naturally good at drawing that's all

>>211631740
You must of used lifelike colour's

>>211631755
124 pack of crayolas. What's her name? I want to do a better drawing

>>211631458
>the john waters hon pompadour
Yesss

>>211631810
The Bajoran Bumtickler is what the crew/customers call her.

>>211631596
that's a great subplot

>>211631714
hailou 2

>>211632036
fucking do it anon
>>211628074

>>211632185
you think you want it but you really don't

>>211632421
hahaha you just made my day man

>>211632421
they really got stamets character

>>211632543
>>211632421
noice

Can you make her break the desk?

>>211632629
she tried to change a lightbulb

>>211632751
guy in the back wants in

>>211618942
>the plus
That’s almost as sad as you shills trying desperately to get fans to not call discovery STD

>>211632775
>>211632751
can you make them fight? I want to see if ai can do action scenes yet

>>211628074
how big did she actually get, can I get the real screenshot?

>>211619284
“Carpet trek” wasn’t cancelled, it had 21 seasons of television stretched over 14 years, it made sense creatively to pivot away from it with enterprise. The new shows have all just been pathetic trend chasers made by bad writers actors and producers in a desperate bid to copy whatever the most profitable thing was at the time rather than outright creative endeavors with anything to say

>>211632421
>>211632543
>>211632751
>>211632775
>>211632036
Incredible work. This AI shit has come a long way fast. I'm still at the stage of generating pics of princess peach with a gigantic ass

>>211633044
don't want to spoil the fun but here if you must have it

>>211631674
>>211632036

>>211633035
had to convert to mebm. does the more pixels moving mean a bigger file size?

E.Honda moves

>>211633381
>>211633428
thank you

>>211633170
He's all tuckered out after a big day

New
>>211634547
>>211634547
>>211634547
>>211634547

>>211623074
Don't threaten me with a good time.
>>211623554
LD pointed that out. Thank God it came along to skewer this overwrought, self-important franchise.

>>211624510
>Fred Freiberger
Is he the one that Fred Fredburger was based on?

>>211625368
Then there was the whole "his pattern suggests two dimensional thinking" which came out of nowhere.

>>211627443
>he's looking at the wall