>DUDE THERAPY

>>211632620 (OP)
>phrenology equipment
At least he chose a competent therapist.

it would be more useful to my anxiety if I could just get anti anxiety meds without having to talk to a therapist.

>le intelligent woman therapist

>>211632620 (OP)
What the hell's wrong with you? Your skin's, like, moving around or something

>>211632620 (OP)
reminder that only americans go to therapy.
Only americans are retarded enough to pay a jew a trillion dollars per hour for him to pretend to listen and care about their problems.

Americans starting to go see therapists was a sign of societal collapse.

God I hate Americans and their pseudo sciences to sell drugs so much

>>211632620 (OP)
>new religion
>pay me $60 an hour
>no tithing now

>>211632688
you can, easily, i've got family members who just asked the doctor for them and got a prescription, they're hilariously overprescribed considering people have no idea what they even really do

>>211632766
>>211632620 (OP)
Its confession for atheists. But with no absolution and no truth, so even if you tell your sins the therapist doesnt have concept of sin thus wont tell you to change. So the damage of sin on the mind and life keeps being perpetuated.

Carl Jung would even tell his Catholic patients: Just go to confession.

>>211632688
most of these people are glorified drug dealers anon. You go and talk to them for like 10 min and then they write you a prescription based on whatever negative emotion you have (anger, saddness, anxiety ect)

>>211632845
They are all Christians or catholics, the american society is infested to the core with jewry, the TV told them that talking to a jew for 500$ per hour is a better idea than just talking to your loved ones/family.

Same with kicking out kids from the home the moment they are 18 - another jew way to ruin american families and society.

>>211632766
>>211632785
Yuros invented psychotherapy though

>>211632921
Jews arent european.

>>211632921
no, jews did and america is completely jew owned now

It's a crutch for an incompetent writer to bring out the inner thoughts of the character. That is why it's so prevalent, if you didn't get it already.

>>211632931
>>211632937
it was your problem and you didn't deal with it.
stop blaming americans for your problems

>>211632917
>JDS
>putting the dollar sign after the money amount
brown kid/F student detected

>>211632954
whatever dude americans are the ones who fought for the wrong side

>>211632620 (OP)
Sopranos doesn't suck. Stfu

>>211632688
stop taking jew medicine. stop going to the humiliation ritual called therapy.

>>211632980
Churchill was the one who brought us into WW2.
also Hitler was the retard who let the brits escape dunkirk instead of annihilating them
Again, not america's fault.

>>211632954
We dealt with it, that's why zero yuropeans go to therapy, we also kicked out 99% of all the jews.
Now its your turn to fix your jew problem.

>>211632845
Carl Jung is absolutely retarded. He was wrong about everything

>>211633005
Churchill wasnt even in office back then you mouthbreathing retard.
Read a fucking book.

DUDE DRAMATIZING THE CHARATER'S EMOTIONS *SUCKS*

WHY ISN'T EVERYONE JUST A STOIC BADASS.

>>211632980
Hitler was a kike america fought for the right side.

>>211632961
He sounds based. Fuck your retarded way of doing things. You are so bad at English that "literally" means "figuratively" as well now. Because you retards just used it wrong for too long

>>211632766
>reminder that only americans go to therapy.
Honestly yeah
As a yuropoor it's quite a weird thing to go to therapy here

>>211633009
>zero yuropeans go to therapy
blatantly false

>>211633005
Churchill bombed Pearl Harbor?

therapy helped me acquire empathy at age 33

>>211633059
This proves me right, lmao.
>5 out of 100,000 people have ever seen a therapist in europe
Based yurofags.

>>211633109
>psychiatrists increasing in every country
>actually i'm right though
You sure have the blind retarded confidence of an american

Women eat this shit up because it makes them feel smart in a way that can't be empirically refuted

>>211633152
women like it because women like talking about their emotions (whether you want to do it or not)

>>211632688
>just let me fuck my brain up senpai
Americans are extremely stupid for falling for goy medicine.

The people shittalking therapy are usually the ones that need it the most.

>>211633143
>1 more person went to therapy in europe in the last 10 years
Hahahaha jews on suicide watch.

>>211633152
So that's why all sopranos fans on 4chan are always wrong and so emotional. They're all women.

>>211633143
Number of psychiatrists is not the same thing as number of employed psychiatrists

>>211632620 (OP)
Self-inserts

>>211633202
not sure you really understand what that chart implies

>>211633192
Nobody has ever needed therapy

>>211633221
I do.
Nobody goes to therapists, that's why in the last 10 years there is an increase of average 1 therapist per country.
Hahahaha.

>>211633224
Don Draper did

>>211633192
if you replace "therapy" with "god" you people sound a lot more sane

>>211633243
number needs to go down, not up
if number goes up that means industry growth, Hans

>>211633059
Let's see the numbers for burgers

>>211633041
yeah I want to see more realistic panic attacks in my entertainment

I haven't even been to a medical doctor in years, how do people get stuck in therapy?
I couldn't even tell you what my insurance covers or how to make an appointment or where to take me if I was dying, yet people have all different kind of specialists? Odd.

>>211633278
It's not a question burgers see therapists, and more often.
the fact that yuropeens seem to think they literally don't is really funny

>>211633267
Nobody goes to therapists in yurop.
There is a huge increase in barber shops in germany, doesnt mean that everybody goes to cut their hair every 5 minutes.

In america there are 200,000 kike therapists per 100,000 inhabitants.

>>211633300
That's because we dont.

>>211632620 (OP)
Bottom pic got a whole big budget Marvel show for writing this episode

>>211632620 (OP)
>>211632620 (OP)
>>211632620 (OP)

I talked to this absolute bombshell of a younger female therapist- tan, dark hair, nice facial features, great ass..
and got nothing really out of talking to her. She was probably the least relatable woman I'd ever talked to. The problem was that when I approached her of the imminent threat of societal breakdown, dwindling resources, and the eventual unalterable path of climate change we were on she'd just bug out pretending that stuff was in my head. I guess the real world just doesn't really occur to younger women or something. Worst therapist I've ever seen in my life. Left me more pissed off, lonely and sexually frustrated after a "session." I don't feel like they're all that honest at that age in particular either. Even male therapists are more honest and down to earth.

>>211632620 (OP)
>Have you considered it could be you have what we call Toxic Masculinity?
>SO BRAVE

>>211632688
This. The right mix of diazepam, codeine and vodka makes anything possible

>>211633023
he was right about synchronicity

Dude you feel bad? Well continue to eat and drink industrial waste slop, pump yourself full of Jew meds and talk to some soulless college educated midwit about your feelings

>>211633413
is this retard taking insomnia meds with coffee?

>>211632845
>Its confession for atheists. But with no absolution and no truth,

>thinks there is truth in religion
>omegalul jesus cuckazoid

>>211633085
Abusive relationships with BPD social climbers isn't therapy
Also so much for empathy when your friend is getting death threats

>>211632766
Therapy is free in civilized countries

>>211633298
therapy is a scam. simple as. they might say few good things here and there and you might make some breakthroughs, but at the end of the day it's like trying to untangle a gordian knot and really you must whack that shit apart and do whatever is necessary. therapy, for the most part, is just illusion of doing something while delaying action and that's addictive. all that chair circle let's talk it out woman bullshit is what has been ruining you, me, and men in general. you must stop relying strangers to provide you justifications, reasons to live, things to blame, or catharsis even. hell, there might be people to blame but either you do something about that or don't. just sitting in a chair talking about it won't do anything. get revenge, forgive, but don't just let a stranger cuck you into lethargy. personally I think they don't have an incentive to fix your shit, because it might go against everything they believe in. you're supposed to be an eunuch that does what he's told.

>>211633500
Nobody even goes to a free therapist here.
Its just embarassing as fuck to go to a therapist.

>>211633466
>BPD social climbers
Is that what we're calling Anisa now?

>>211633500
no such thing as a free lunch

>>211632688
Americans and their drugs.

You people are insane.

>>211633413
then wash it down with a crumbl cookie and a BR oreo chocolate shake

>>211632688
>It would be more useful for my maladaptation to just continue indulging it rather than fixing it through exposure
The point is to make you quit being a little bitch.

Unless you're especially retarded or female you can do therapy on your own. It's mostly just about catching destructive cognitive schemas and interupting them consistently.
You dont need to keep paying a jew to talk to you.

>>211633593
w/e

>>211633676
>It's mostly just about catching destructive cognitive schemas and interupting them consistently.
Which you're incapable of doing if you're in a disordered state of mind, which is the whole point why you'd go to therapy.
>dude who needs a wheelchair, just like use your legs lmao

>>211633060
Churchill was working with American leadership who always intended on joining the war but was unable to due to the populace being vehemently opposed to it. Japan only attacked the US because we embargoed them which crippled their war effort and also drove them to invade Southeast Asia for alternative resources.

>>211632620 (OP)
It works, don't shit on it before you try it, chudster.
Fix your life.

>>211633710
nta but most people in therapy aren't insane. Invalidating your point.

>>211633710
most therapists are nuts themselves. you have to be a cunt to become a therapist in the first place. if you really want some "normal" perspective you're better off talking to someone who actually has their shit together rather than some jordan peterson type who is constantly crying/angry about tipped over pylons or whatever the fuck. how is someone like that going to fix you?

>>211633085

Dude looks like a legit retard. Why was he popular again?

>>211632620 (OP)
Don't disrespect other cultures, Americans get spiritual fulfilment from giving Jews money

>>211633707
Tell us about your anxiety, and why you need meds for it.
My language doesnt even have a word for anxiety, its an alien concept to us, cant even imagine being "diagnosed" with (((anxiety))) and having to swallow tons of pills to fight my crippling """""anxiety"""".

Americans are pathetic losers since the 90s.

>>211632921
Yuros invented everything.

>>211633059
Psychiatrists and therapists are different things, retard.

>>211633763
>most people in therapy aren't insane
Yeah and most people asking for antibiotics at the ER have a viral infection. The average patient is silly, who knew?

>>211633775
Peterson is obviously an attention whore, these are a self-solving problem.

>>211633109
Psychiatrists and people who've seen therapists are different things, double retard.

>>211633800
your country doesn't have complex concepts because it's a shitstain on the map that offers nothing to the world. you have no anxiety because life is meaningless for your people

>>211633859
No one goes to the emergency room to ask for antibiotics you retarded fucking third world brown.

>NORMALIZE THERAPY TO THE FUCKING CHUDS!

>>211633219
women are like leaches that latch onto anything the second it becomes popular and instantly lower its quality. It's honestly astounding how you can pinpoint shows divebombing the second they let a women have a say in the writing room.

>>211632620 (OP)
I hate to tell you guys this but it actually works

>>211633900
people go to the er for fucking stubbed toes, lol

>>211633904
This, so much this

>>211633915

The only people I know who go to therapy got crazier, and they paid money for it. You are paying a midwit $100+/hr. to listen to you babble it's literally a placebo effect.

>>211632620 (OP)
There's a scene in this where a scary man comes to Jake Gyllenhall's house in the middle of night and starts screaming and banging on the front door scaring his daughter demanding to be let in to get Jake Gyllenhall, I'm gonna get you Jake Gyllenhall and after Jake tells him to go away or he'll call the cops and the guy gets scarier and the children more scared, Jake opens the door and gives him four or five punches to the face and the episode ends.

Next episode, wife, demanding: so....you obviously need to see a therapist.

>>211633782
>Dude looks like a legit retard.
He even used to admit it himself
>Why was he popular again?
Edgy humor, seemed energetic and charismatic
Then he lost his virginity to a grifter who wants her entire life paid for her

>>211633917
You're clearly twelve or severely handicapped

>>211633710
What a stupid fucking response to my post. Don't @ me ever again unless you can think of something actually intelligent to say you little bitch boi.

>>211633938
My insurance paid for it and I'm doing significantly better these days I lost like 70 pounds I got rid of diabetes. It's okay if you're afraid of change but it can happen.

>>211633004
This, telling people your secrets and private thoughts leaves you empty and without inspiration.

>>211633960
>@
you can say nigger on twitter and sometimes reddit now, you don't need to be here looking for trouble poseur dozer

>>211633939
forgot da pic. No recommend btw

>>211632688
>anxiety
Man up anon
>taking drugs for it
Jfc

>>211633939
>Guy punches dude who's actively threatening family
>Wife finds that's the wrong solution
Wait what?

>>211634003

I'm not afraid of change, I'm reasonable and self motivated and can enact it myself without talking to Becky from Indiana University.

>>211632921
yuros invented america as well

It's funny how therapy wasn't a thing for the last 299,990 years of human existence and we got on just fine, but now suddenly everyone is needs it. Give me a break

>>211632620 (OP)
I don't know much about therapy other than that my friend went there and got some homework to write about things that are important to him. Which, to be honest, makes sense. I believe a lot of the "mental health epidemic" in youth is of existential origin. That is, they don't know their place in the world because they lack purpose, and even further, a value structure. Trying to work your way to purpose through individual things that feel important is a good first step. I would not pay anyone anything for this service though. That type of therapy goes into the category "constructive" if I've understood correctly. The "supportive" therapy that's all about nodding and reassuring victimhood seems counterproductive unless you're under 12 and the therapist is your mom.

>>211633892
You seem upset, sweetie.
Most languages in europe dont have a word for anxiety, its literally a made up kike word to leech money from retarded americans, and then sell them psychotropic pills for 500$ a bottle.

>>211634093
yeah well your faggot ass wasn't around to ruin everyone's mood all that time

>>211633003
Sopranos also dunks on therapy and argues that it's worthless

>>211633219
She never said this

>>211633900
t. never been to, let alone worked in the ER

>>211633447
We get it, you're spiritually dead.
Go back to /d/ or whatever your pervert kink haven is.

Find God. I'm not even kidding.

>>211633960
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

There's two types of people who I'd recommend therapy for
>Victims of child molestation/sex abuse
>Soldiers coming back from war dealing with PTSD
Namely because I've personally seen what happens to both when they get no help for their issues and its never pretty

>>211634093
Nigga that is literally why confession existed.

>>211634130

your average therapy enjoyer ladies and gentlemen, thousands of dollars down the drain so he could be assmad on the internet lmao

Here's how you fix your "anxiety"

>stop drinking
>stop smoking weed
>go outside
>exercise

There, I just saved you $150 a week

>>211634195
No, confession wasnt therapy.

>>211634234

Your forgot:

>turn off the tv
>turn off the phone tablet and computer
>stick to books and your window and the park

>>211634180
Oh shit, a true classic

>>211634195
confession is about guilt and humility in a shared moral framework. therapy is about dealing with neuroses in an increasingly bizarre social fabric with words like trauma, boundaries, gaslighting, and radical self-acceptance

i am so fucking happy that AI will replace therapists and for free.
thank you technology. thank you ai.

therapy is one of the worst most pointless things I ever experienced....
holy shit most of them are useless.
>go to therapy
>therapist asks questions
> keeps saying " and what do you think about that?
> you give answers,
> therapist just repeats what you just said over and over
>ok see you next week.

how can an ai robot not do this but better? the therapist was dumber than I was. I knew more about science and about different things than him ....
he was literally dumb.

>>211633676
>destructive cognitive schemas and interupting them consistently
What does this Jewish therapy talk even mean?

>>211634003
You feel better because you got healthy and lost weight, fatty

>>211634288

It doesn't make sense to us because in a woman's weird internal framework merely talking about something is productive. Letting it out, talking, productive. To men it's frequently the opposite, either do something about it, or bury it so it isn't dominating your thoughts and happiness. Women can't be happy so they're fine with just sharing their issues constantly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-rumination

For men, this is agonizing. They want to focus on the good and improve what isn't. For women it's the entire point to discuss petty issues and feelings, it scratches their itch

>>211633939
>>211634037
>>211634064
She's asking him to go to couples' therapy because he repeatedly cheated on her for a long time, it was not about the dude he punched.

>>211634195
Yeah. Almost like just saying your thoughts out loud and talking to someone helps. The big difference here is that confession is free and you aren't pumped full of mindnumbing drugs afterwards

>>211634353
no they're already in couples therapy and she follows up with "Jake.....you beat a man...!"

>>211634321
Stop spending your time thinking about dumb shit

>>211634349
it's fucking insane how willing my wife is to complain about something she wants changed, until some form of change is suggested in a reasonable way.
Then it's suddenly a problem that didn't need a solution, just a bunch of fucking around whining about it, and I'm in the wrong for interfering with that.

>>211634349
if the therapist was smart and knowledgeable and he knew how to handle anxiety or explain how my problems work, I would have liked it

but the times I've seen 3 therapists in my life over a decade, they were all like stupid, literally stupid. like talking to a dumb person

>>211632766
>>211632785
It was Germans who brought psychology to the US though. Freud even bragged about having taken the plague to the west after he visited new york

>>211634374
Again, what was the dumb whore expecting when some dude was threatening his family? A quiet therapy talk?
This is what I don't fucking get with women and women writers especially - how do they not reconcile the fact that sometimes, words don't get through to sick fucks or people who really are off the deep end?

>>211634195
I'm Catholic and no, the confessional is not a therapy session. It's about asking for forgiveness for sin. Most priests worth their salt will tell you to shut up and name the sin, the gravity of it, and how frequently you committed it. Moreover, you're just holding up the confessional line by trauma dumping crap the priest has no need of knowing to give you absolution.
You can however ask a priest for spiritual direction, which is a one-on-one session with said priest so he can guide you to living a more virtuous life, but that's about as close as it gets to "therapy". Beyond that: pray.
You should be close to your family, and failing that, have a close group of friends.

>>211632620 (OP)
Watch The Bob Newhart Show to see therapy done right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcSAQyzPcl0

>>211634288
I saw a therapist a few times a couple of years ago at the behest of my ex.
Funny thing is, at the time I still had time to "save my life/future" if I had just stopped being a little bitch and manned up.

Her "technique" I think was just to get me to talk and somehow "if I said it myself I'd realise how dumb it all was and I'd straighten out" or something.
She did nothing except that. It was obvious to me. She didn't tell me to do anything or give advice or anything. It's like how that reverse-therapy shit doesn't work on me. Like if I said "I've been severely depressed for over half a decade" and somebody goes "And wow you've gotten so good at it now huh!?" That shit doesn't work.
I left feeling significantly worse after every session so I only went a few times.

Ngl Child Therapy was purely beneficial for me.
I went from barely functioning retard to kind of a normal person, and i don't think i could've done it without it.

>>211634404
There's always an excuse too. My wife has been bitching about her job for years, so I keep telling her to get a new job. Of course, she can't, because [excuse] [excuse] [excuse]

>>211634288
ELIZA was doing this in the 1960s lol

>>211634477
Painfully unfunny sketch.

>>211634506
So in short, your parents were incapable of raising you and helping you work through your issues.

>>211634492
what I hated personally was having to repeat myself visit after visit. having to have the therapist repeat that shit that we talked about last visit, go over the same shit. explain my problem Again, explain why I felt bad. and then:
" and how could you fix that?"
"and what could you do differently"
motherfucker I can just talk to chatgpt

>>211634605
damn anon when you put it like that i wonder if i, too, would have benefit from some therapist also raising me

>>211632620 (OP)
I tried explaining my problems to God, I didn't get any good answers.
>That means you don't have any good answers to give
Yeah exactly why I was looking for help in the first place, bravo.
>Give hundreds of dollars to a therapist so she can pretend to care about you and offer no solutions
Tried it, made me feel better in the short term, did nothing for the long term
>Medication just castrates you and doesn't actually make you feel better
Okay fantastic what other options do I have to feel better
>Get fit, cuck. Exercise every second of every day that'll somehow make you happy
Tried it, it only made me miserable. Hated every second of exercising and never felt that "jolt" of energy or positivity after exercising. Only fatigue and wasted time. What's left?
>Get laid loser, getting laid is the key to happiness, if you get your dick wet all your problems will go away
Yes vapid meaningless sex will definitely give me the fulfillment I seek.

>>211633406
Dangerously based

>>211634655
Was it the same therapist each time? It sounds weird you'd have to repeat shit over and over. Isn't the idea that you see the same therapist so you don't have to start from scratch every time?
Chatgpt won't do shit either

I'm grateful I always had close friends that I could confide in.
Anytime I was in mental anguish, they'd talk me through it all. It's not even that they gave me advice, rather it was just me vocalizing the thoughts I had instead of letting myself get into infinite loops of dread.
That's all therapy is. Paying someone to listen to you and ask you questions to force you to talk out your thoughts. If they're real hacks, they'll pump you full of medication.

>>211634093
Shamans, medicine men, clergymen, old wise grannies, etc have served the same purpose for hundreds of thousands of years. Having someone to talk about your problems with and receive advice for your mental/spiritual well-being is an innate cross-cultural trait among human beings nigga

>>211634700
a therapist chatgpt if they add all books on psychology and it can check the Internet for information could be more useful than some moron at a desk.

at least with chatgpt I've been able to discover and figure out some stuff. not just mental health wise but different stuff in general
but a psychology trained ai would be amazing.

as for the guy I went to. yes it was the same guy over different visits. yes I had to repeat my issue every time. I had to repeat how I felt. and I had to ",guess" how to fix it.

>>211634093
Which should probably tell you how dead our local communities are.
Everyone knew each other within a 5 mile radius. Now we're lucky if we even know the next door neighbor's name.
Grim.

why are men so scared and insecure about therapy? are you really that afraid of your own feelings and dealing with them?

>>211634278
Instagram buzzwords aren’t psychology.
Though psychology has been infested with female victimhood shit increasingly, much like the other social sciences

>>211634662
therapists raise the most fucked-up kids

probably because of all the rape

>>211634856
I tell my best friend about my feelings of inadequacy and loneliness and I always feel better after doing so.
Why on earth would I ever pay some jew bitch to note down shit about my private life only my trusted loved ones know about?

>>211634856
be ause the person you are talking to is low IQ or dumb and flawed.
be ause the person. you are talking to doesn't have the answers
be ause the person you are talking to is mostly guessing

because the person you are talking to just prescribes you medicine without doing blood work.

>>211634605
>normal, well-adjusted people have trouble when raising an autistic retard
Yeah no shit.

>>211634821
You'll still be missing the human element with chatgpt, which I'd say is crucial if you want to get therapy. You may as well just look up the book/reference yourself if you're using chatgpt. It's a robot, it doesn't "understand" shit like that.
I don't like therapy myself, but using chatgpt for it is bullshit. It's a robot.

It sounds like a shitty therapist too. The one I went to did something similar when it came to solutions, but she at least didn't have to make me repeat everything whenever I went.

>>211633413
poor liver.
poor kidneys
>melatonin
poor fried brain.

>>211634856

Women live in this bubble where they are constantly taken care of by men and male ran society so they don't understand they aren't "fixing" or "dealing with" anything they are idly co ruminating on their petty little issues and neuroses and fooling themselves into thinking they're achieving a great feat by doing so

Men can plainly see this but, again, as men go all out to make sure not to offend women they don't mention what their intuition is saying and simply nod and say "that's nice, good for you"

You're the grown up equivalent of a special needs retard

This is ironically the most mentally ill thread I’ve seen in a while.

>>211634914
sometimes people go to the therapist looking for information to problems looking for information to their issues.

and a lot of times people go to the therapies because they don't have the answers to problems in their lives and they don't have a different viewpoint and they can go to therapist because they're looking for a different opinion of different view point of view
i understand that part.

a chatgpt bot can check 10 thousand websites and forums in seconds. you could upload all books on psychology and the bot could try to give you a solution. a specific solution to your specific problems.

a real therapist has very limited knowledge. they are mostly guessing. they might have life experiences, and work experience.
but it's honestly a huge waste of money .

>>211634809
All of those were free and didn't involve drugs

>>211634321
You're an illiterate moron who gets confused by words bigger than 5 letters.

>>211635135
>Shamans, medicine men
>didn't involve drugs
lol
lmao

>>211635135
people have always needed talking to guides but America weponized and monetized it.

humans always had different spiritual guides but only in America it costs 400 for one hour of chat. and only fans model would be cheaper to talk to......

>>211635155
you are correct
it didn't involve chemical drugs. only natural ones.

>>211634856
We're all secure in our emotions, that's the difference. We know that anxiety and depression is just a part of life sometimes and we deal with it. We don't try to numb the pain or "fix" it like women

>>211635152
Explain it to me please

Talk therapy has been extremely helpful for me bc I live in Australia where psychiatrists aren’t constantly peddling xanax and meth, and two good highly-trained doctors (1 psychologist, 1 psychiatrist, both female) have helped improve my life substantially. But effective therapy requires two things:
>a qualified knowledgeable professional that has genuine altruistic motivations
>a patient who is honest and articulate to describe their problems and humble enough to receive criticism and solutions
That combo is pretty uncommon. Obviously many anons in this thread absolutely wouldn’t benefit from psychiatry bc they’ve already decided they’re enemies.

>>211635155
Shamans didn't hand out Lithium and Ritalin

People I know who go to therapy say they pay 50 beans a session but they find it easier to talk to me and walk away feeling better. Is there a way to make money doing this without qualifications? People with anxiety say I'm a calming influence too. I guess I'm just a chill guy but I want more money.

>>211634129
>Most languages in europe dont have a word for anxiety
Bold claim, and weird that I'm hearing it for the first time ever. Got any actual evidence of this?

>try therapy some 5 years ago
>get to third session
>guy goes "usually people get it by now I don't know what to tell you"

fucking useless normie whisperers

>>211635232
yeah
therapy is probably very useful for people without friends or close family.
it makes sense to literally need to talk to a human about your problems. very needed.
therapists are dangerous if you say the wrong thing

>>211633335
Ok but he just posted Data that already proved that claim wrong. Do you have counter-evidence proving that data to be fake? Because if not you need to actually update your argument.

>>211633055
I've known people but they were generally total fuckups with a fucked up past and probably needed it.
Just going to a therapist when you can hold a job, pursue relationships with people and don't take hard drugs is generally unheard of yeah.

>>211635346
go the new age way. become a guru. spiritual guru. if you make it a religion no taxes? lol.
in all seriousness yeah, try some new age thing. ask for donations. add stuff like chakra cleansing.

>>211632766
>>211633055
See: >>211633059

>>211635426
go to therapist
tells him I'm scared of dogs
>yeah go to a dog park and pet random dogs bro

ok thanks asshole ( this literally happened to me)

>>211632921
>>211634430
Lmao, Eurofaggots do the same shit with trannyism.
They literally invented it, became a haven for it for decades while demanding American do the same, and now they blame America for it. It's absurd.

>>211634914
>the human element
>which I'd say is crucial if you want to get therapy.
most therapists are women though

ITT: trolls say how useless therapy is while demonstrating how much they need it

Imagine being so insecure and misogynistic that you would refuse help because it comes from a woman.
Stay miserable.

>>211632688
>muh anxiety
eat right, exercise, get 8 hours of sleep. pills are not the answer to every problem.

The majority of the time if someone is depressed/anxious/whatever it's because their life sucks and they need to fix it. Therapy may or may not help with this

>>211632688
drugs are just a patch retard, they might help in some cases but they don't fix the latent issue causing the anxiety
no, therapy is not the solution either, unless you're a woman I guess

men would rather start ww3 than go to THERAPY!!

>>211636695
Women legitimately do not sympathize with my schizoid personality type. Anytime I've ever talked to one about it they completely do not grasp any of it.

>>211632620 (OP)
Therapy portrayed in movies, films and media is almost always wrong.
I let my patients do the talking and I hardly speak at all. Usually a few words about a diagnosis or adjusting medication at the end. No fucking idea why every doc yaps for hours with weird monologues.
>t. psychiatrist

>>211634012
>telling people your secrets and private thoughts leaves you empty and without inspiration.
This is exactly how I feel whenever I "open up" about my problems. I feel like shit afterwards and regret ever talking about it. I'm never sharing my issues with anyone ever again.

Honestly, I think it depends on who you are and who you get. I think the go to therapy, take da pills crowd is incredibly obnoxious. But in my case it has been the only thing that has helped. My therapist gave me really practical, workable advice. Medication also while not mandatory for me, has helped make my day to day much better.
Before doing that stuff, I started running 5ks, got a better job, more social hobbies. Still felt like shit all the time. I do think for most people working on fitness/fiance/social stuff Is going to fix 90% of people's mental problems though. Telling people go to therapy and take a Lexapro is like not going to fix anything if without atleast trying to fix those issues in some capacity.

>>211636753
its quite fucked that we've been washed so hard into accepting that therapy is just a part of life when the reason most people are miserable is because of severely awful life habits and the multifacted extortion on individuals whether its taxes, addictive products, artificial inflation, subscription, fees and then this extra subset of "solutions" that is only necessary because things have been allowed to become shittier like VPNs, which would not be this essential thing now because data is constantly being leeched off you. and like therapy, which is "essential" because the world has become shittier and they can't even hide it anymore.

I got molested by my dad for years and bullied nonstop from elementary school to high school. I had a nervous breakdown in college and told my mom I planned on killing myself, at which point she signed me up for therapy. For me, it's been great. Thanks to that and my anxiety meds, I can get through most days without feeling like offing myself. It does truly help to have someone who can help you figure shit out.

>>211637317
The greatest lie ever told is that depression is an individual problem.

>>211637395
figure what shit out, you dumbass? you needed somebody to tell you that your dad shouldn't have been fucking you in the ass before you realized it?

>>211637501
Unironically kind of. I lived with guilt/anger for a long time for not standing up for myself sooner.

>>211637427
it is though

>>211633004
>>211634012
>>211633187
>stop doing this
>don't do this
How is that solution to Anon's problem?

>>211635322
Yeah because shrooms and opium is so much better lmao

>>211633911
it's always sunny is one such example. who would have thought Rob solely basing the Dee casting process around who would fuck him could lead to a less than talented actress landing the role and then hamfisting her hacky jokes and plot points into the show after a few seasons.

>>211636753
Neither is that generic basic advice though. Can't tell if it just doesn't work for some people or if things would be even worse without proper sleep, diet and exercise

It only works if you are a normie with retarded issues. I went for about 5 or 6 years and it was totally useless in every way and only made me worse and full of seethe over the time and money wasted on it.

>>211633911
>women are like leaches that latch onto anything the second it becomes popular and instantly lower its quality.
truth death star

>>211638483
"generic" advice exists because it works. it's been tested by time and population. let me ask you a question: do you think anyone in the middle ages had "anxiety"? do you think amazonian tribesmen have "anxiety"? if you think exercise doesn't improve your mental state all you're telling me is that you've never excecised before.

>>211636304
I've been to therapy and it's retarded. You're basically paying for a friend to listen to your problems. And most of the time, their advice is useless.
>>211636753
This anon is correct.

>>211633324
that's because in Europe psychotherapy is considered an insult to Allah and Europe is mostly arab immigrants

>>211632785
It's literally MK ULTRA.

> Family, friends and normal sexual relationships = BAD
> Abusing drugs and alcohol, hating your family, LGBTQ degeneracy = GOOD

Put rick and morty in the garbage please.

You may as well go to a palm reader every week
Online tarot card reading has as much scientific evidence backing it up

>>211638435
>shrooms
Unironically yes. They're starting to legalize mushrooms because it helps with PTSD
>opium
You're retarded

>>211632620 (OP)
>a fungus took over billions of lives and he's searching for the last humans to infect and take over the planet
>dude therapy lmao
i can't wait for a tv series about Demons/ayy lmaos where humans are the real monsters and Demons/ayy lmaos are just like us

>>211640473
Ahh, the junkie apologist has arrived.
Tell us more about how "good" mind altering drugs are (and that pharma grade are totes so much worse lol)

>>211635232
I've got nobody in my life that close enough to really talk to and muh NHS means I get psychiatry and therapy for free. Honestly makes me feel 10x better just getting shit off my chest rather than coiling it up. Exercise and diet and all that bullshit doesn't do shit when you're getting shit on at work and there's no escape because that's how you pay the bills. The pills I'm on as well but they are pretty shit but it's better than feeling like a nervous wreck for the time being.

>>211635426
>>211635510
you have to go through a few sometimes. I had a bloke that despite knowing I was an alcoholic would sit and ask me questions about how much I could drink and how many fights I'd been in. Just downright mental stuff. I ended up just walking out after a session where he started going on some crazy rant about how he could drink 10 pints a night without having any issues.

>>211639244
>do you think anyone in the middle ages had "anxiety"?
Yes
>do you think amazonian tribesmen have "anxiety"?
Yes

>>211632620 (OP)
Anyone else getting spammed ads for better help and other therapy crap when they use YouTube, especially towards men?

>>211639244
anxiety is literally just your fight or flight system going off. everyone gets it. an anxiety disorder is when that fight or flight system is going off all the time when it shouldn't be. the meds you get prescribed kinda cut that system off which depending on how serious it is can be a good thing or a very retarded thing because most people don't have an anxiety disorder, they're just miserable and want an excuse to be miserable.

>>211641672
Ever heard of an ad blocker?

>>211638495
why did it take you 6 whole years to realize that it wasnt helping

>>211632785
Heh we sold drugs to the entire fucking world after making your government arrest you for not wanting to take it.

>>211638017
Not really. We live in a world designed to break people.

>>211632620 (OP)
wow they put a common part of peoples lives that works great as a framing device in their show? that's so onions cucked, woke dei fr

>>211633023
you're offensively retarded for no matter what reason you posted this

>>211633406
I swear believing in that shit made me a bit mental for a while. I'm glad I drank it out of my mind.

>>211634856
I understand my feelings but I don’t dwell on them or constantly talk about them like women. As a man, if you’re feeling depressed you just fix the issue

>>211641721
I know, I’m just interested in how recently I’ve seen a big push for it recently

>go to therapy for my anxiety, depression, autism, etc.
>therapist is a normalfag extrovert conventionally attractive woman who has never known an ounce of hardship in her life
>her solution for everything is just "ummm have u tried just going outside and making friends???"
Licensed professional btw. Would have been more help paying a prostitute.

>>211641719
>an anxiety disorder
is fake

>>211632688
Benzodiazepines caused me permanent life changing brain damage
I wish I never took that shit

>>211641913
which breadtube grifter did you get that from?

>>211632931
It was YOU, not jews
LMAO

>>211632620 (OP)
There is no reality where a man benefits from talking to a woman about how he's feeling.

>>211632980
Hitler killed himself lmfao

wow i sure need a woman who wants kids to take hormones and voted for joe biden to lecture me about how to improve my life

I am 100% convinced that therapy only works on NPCs who are unable to visualise an apple in their mind's eye.

>>211638382
read a book
go for a walk
if you're so depressed you're going to kill yourself, a little therapy and some pills won't help, you belong in a psych ward
if you're just a little blue, and you think pills will magically make things better, they won't. you've got some problems that you need to think about, reason out, and make changes and execute on. takes some will power and some time.

>>211642347
>Hordes of Soviets at the door
I'd kill myself too.

>>211633055
nuh uh
I saw that chilling one shot netflix video about that little white incel who killed people because he couldn't get any strange
he was talking to a therapist

>>211632620 (OP)
Personally I found talking to a specialist very helpful after my sisters death, I was really fucked up and didn’t know I wanted to talk to someone until I started doing it. Didn’t get any medication but learned healthy copes that weren’t whiskey and blow.

>>211632620 (OP)
Therapy is a complete waste of time, at least it is in my circumstances. No one can help me. And there's nothing someone can tell me that I'm not capable of formulating myself.

>>211632961
>he takes time out of the anti iran threads to monitor /tv/
I hope your supervisor takes notice of your initiative

>>211632620 (OP)
>men grovelling before women in positions of power
It's all so tiresome

>>211642502
depression is caused by a lack of meaning/purpose. modern people are depressed because they were brought up in a nihilistic society that shins faith, shuns family, and teaches that the only worthwhile things are consuming products and going to protests.

>>211642820
*shuns

>>211642492
> are unable to visualise an apple in their mind's eye
I’m honestly surprised some people just aren’t able to visualize stuff in their head. Like I’ve been able to daydream and imagine so many scenarios in my mind as if they were movies or they were in real life

>>211632719
It's called "line boil" and I'm not sure why it's done, other than to almost look like you're animating when you're not.

>>211643022
> I'm not sure why it's done
It’s called “style”

>>211632620 (OP)
You're telling me you guys go to see the rapist every week? And you pay them?

I want dick pills so I can fuck my wife better, but I don’t want to go to a doctor

>>211643373
these chumps should just be like me and invest early in a good mirror

>>211634605
Most people who have kids can't be qualified as good parents.

>>211643022
It's called Squigglevision.

>>211634605
Right so what are you supposed to do then? Probably go to a therapist, if you find you can’t work through your issues yourself.

>>211643022
It creates movement for low budget animations and high effort animations alike

>>211643533

"Good parents" pass on superior genes, and that is literally it. No, your helicoptering and hovering and co dependence doesn't help them. It actually turns them into useless whiny turds that can't function. Why do people become more useless the more that we actively "parent?" You're depriving kids of their natural right to explore, struggle, grow, achieve, independently.

>>211643683
I’m glad I’m going to be a parent so I can actually work on this in practice and not neuroticize my childhood my whole life with no release (try it sometime)

>>211632620 (OP)
>MFW no sexy blonde gilf the rapist i could potentially have sex with.

>>211632688
or just grow up and stop giving a fuck.

>muh muh mu anxiety
Pathetic cunt

>>211633187
It starts at a really young age tbf with the highly processed chemical laced foods and drinks
>>211642277
My mind was pretty cooked beforehand but damn did those things just make shit worse

>>211632620 (OP)
>Therapy
can people really not just think about their lives themselves? They need to hire someone to help them talk about themselves? Pathetic.

>>211635426
did you ask "get what?"

>>211632917
>just talking to your loved ones/family.
>tell my loved ones/family I'm suicidal
>they are powerless to help me so it just weighs on their mind and worsens their mental health too

>>211643022
>>211643555
>>211643633
>Squigglevision is a method of computer animation in which the outlines of shapes are made to wiggle and undulate, emulating the effect of sketchily hand-drawn animation. Tom Snyder of Tom Snyder Productions invented the technique, which his animation studio Soup2Nuts subsequently used in Dr. Katz, Professional Therapist in 1995,
>Compared with traditional animation, Squigglevision is relatively fast and easy to produce. The non-stop motion of the "squiggling" outlines reduces the need for more complex animations in order to make a scene feel dynamic. Tom Snyder describes the result as "economy of motion". "There are almost no disadvantages," Snyder asserted. "It costs just as much to do a helicopter scene as it does to do a living room scene."
Figured I'd just post this here as a quick digestible for anons.

>just talk to a gay liberal and your problems will get better
I tried this and what do you know, it didn't help. I did feel like a big old faggot afterwards though.

>>211632620 (OP)
>>211632688
My gf asked me to be more emotionally open with her so I did and now she’s starting to treat me different.

What did I do wrong

>>211643742

I'm confused, I just advocated for de-neurosis. We neuroticize childhood way too much and think "parenting" needs to be some kind of constant, active, involved thing when it's actually more fostering a productive environment for them then letting them go wild, barely supervised.

>>211644486
Bad idea anon. NEVER be vulnerable around a woman. They'll see you as weak and the attraction will instantly vanish

>>211644486
You opened up to your GF. Women say they want their men to be vulnerable, but they absolutely do not. If you're fucking a woman, then your role is protection and providing, that's it. If you deviate from that role then you will no longer be suitable for breeding purposes and they will lose interest instinctually.

You should only ever open up to your closest male friends. Women are for babies, the boys are for happiness.

>he listened to a woman's advice on literally anything serious

>>211644503
Yeah that’s what I’m saying. I’m excited to foster a productive environment for my kid

I know a guy who went to school to become a therapist, got his degree, started working, and immediately went m2f. Still does therapy for other people.

>>211645740

lmfao now that's a good parable

>>211632688
It would be even easier if you just got a grip of yourself.

>>211632620 (OP)
People would not be nearly as keen on therapy if they realized that you do like 75 to 80% of the work. You’re literally just talking to someone and they give you various concepts and ideas and see if they fit with what you’re dealing with and then you have to come up with a solution yourself. Like therapist’s aren’t there to fix your bullshit but rather help you fix it. But for some reason media portrays them as mind wizards that can immediately spot and deal with any problem they come across and then tell their patients what they need to fix it.

I think therapy is good in general because nobody has all the answers inside of them. That and the paradox of perspective on issues like denial. Alcoholics all think they don't drink that much. Wifebeaters rarely recognize their actions as abusive. Women never think permanent stay at home mom status negatively affects the family's finances.
Talking to someone about all that is much better than simply pill popping the problem away.
I will say that the cost of therapy is counter-intuitive. Yes it can easily be worth it depending on what you need help with, like overwhelming grief. But it makes that kind of help difficult to access so many people don't even try. I will also say that I would prefer a male therapist over a female one. We're different, so our needs are different.

>>211644486
You weren't open from the start and got into a relationship built upon false premises.

>>211632620 (OP)
People used to go to therapy every sunday

>>211632620 (OP)
biggest scam around
went a few times
they just enable shitty behavior and give you excuses to continue it.
i know what problems i have and the dumbass just enabled them. if i was a weaker person i would've kept going instead if improve myself.

this whole thread should be on anti psychotics if lobotomy isn't an option

>>211644648
>>211646301
So which is it

>>211646976
all the mgtow 'alpha male' bullshit about not appearing weak to women will isolate you and make you miserable in the long run
if your woman is willing to leave you or sabotage your relationship over something like that you'll never be able to trust her with anything and it's better to stay away from her in the first place, being alone is better than being in a toxic relationship and it really isn't worth staying together if you're forced to pretend to be someone else.

>>211632865
>glorified drug dealers
In civilised countries theurapists are not considered medical doctors and therefore can't issue perscriptions. Is it different where you live or are you just talking out of your ass?
While it is true that SOME psychiatrists also offer theurapy it is extremely rare.

Therapy may be a crapshoot but let’s not act like you don’t have things to deal with

>>211633782
He was one of the first of what kids call "safe edgy"

>>211632949
>It's a crutch for an incompetent writer to bring out the inner thoughts of the character
Then have them monologue in their mind, or use visuals to get the point across.

>>211647625
>have them monologue in their mind,
then it stops being relatable to most of the audience

SERENITY NOW

what the fuck do people actually even do in "therapy". So you sit down, there's some old hag that you don't know, and then what? What does she even ask you? Tell me about your feelings? Feelings about what?

>>211640501
>i can't wait for a tv series about Demons/ayy lmaos where humans are the real monsters and Demons/ayy lmaos are just like us
it already happened with Devil May Cry cartoon

>>211647561
I think it might be able to help with some legitimate sudden trauma or something but it seems not very worthwhile if you're life has just been a decades of repression depressing downward spiral snowball shit and you're permas-stuck in a negative warped mentality

>>211647666
KEK

>>211648038
It is a lot of just talking. There are techniques they can teach you to quiet your mind if you're prone to panic. A lot of therapists are useless, but a good one will help you by listening to your problems, occasionally challenge your thinking if there is a pattern of cyclical thinking that can help you sort out your own mind and think clearly, but a lot of therapists are completely useless, especially if you can't be fully open. It's hard to say "I'm pissed off because the useless fucking Jeets that work for me having be lying about doing the work and just cost me 600 bucks and a customer. This only ever happens with Indians" when the therapist you're talking to is Indian.
A lot of the time when men are told they need "therapy" what they actually need is someone to listen to them flip out so they can feel heard as opposed to either bottling it up, screaming into the void, or putting their fist through a wall.
The biggest detriment to men's mental health is constantly putting them in stressful situations and then telling them they're bad people for getting angry.

>>211649047
>the therapist you're talking to is Indian
plees saar do the needful

>>211633059
What’s going on in Liechtenstein? Isn’t that basically just one city with less than 50,000 people? Why do they need so many shrinks?

>>211649143
That's one of the worst parts about modern Australia. 90% of our health industry is Indian, and 90% of those are really fucking bad at their job.

the "dude alcohol" and "dude weed" dialogue made it even more annoying

>>211648629
Well don’t you think spirals of lifelong depression can be resolved by new outlooks and re-interpreting your past which may have been depressing your present and future? People deserve second chances and whether or not a therapist needs to be involved, there is a second third or whatever chance within all of us. Food for thought

>>211634093
In a healthy society the priest knows your demons

>>211649512
Because they are such an epic high trust ethnostate that citizens can happily afford to pay their preprofessional countrymen as advisors and counselors

>>211650145
Professional* not preprofessional. Not sure how that typo happened

>>211644486
I opened up to my then gf of 5 years about feeling overwhelmed with the shit going on in my life and being stressed out. First time I truly showed "weakness" to her. The result? She gave no advice, started treating me differently and broke up with me a few months later. Said she wanted a mature man with more direction in their life. Fucking cunt.

Don't listen to the modern lib bullshit about being an emotional man. Women are hard wired to be attracted to strong confident leadership.

>>211650253
Damn what a fucking bitch

>>211644693
>Women say they want their men to be vulnerable
In other words, they want the guy to compliment and say they love them. It's not about you, but about her being validated by you.

>>211632620 (OP)
Therapy is the church of the atheist. A secular faith for 'jaks and women.

Me and my wife have cried in front of eachother plenty, we've been together for 9 years.

>>211633445
yes, because it's a joke

>>211648629
>>211650007
There are three types of depression, the serious "I'm gonna kill myself and my body is literally shutting down because of how depressed I am so all I can do is sleep" kind of depression, which therapy is good for, the "I'm depressed because despite my struggles I keep facing obstacles that cause me constant stress and I feel as though I can no longer carry this fight" and finally the quiet, very subtle "I am just an unhappy person because the way my brain functions makes tired of existence and while I am not actively seeking to die, I am looking forward to not existing anymore" Those last two are better treated with large amounts of money and constant distraction. A lot of people who are "depressed" are either poor enough that they are trapped, or lead lives that are not enriched enough to actually enjoy and have become like a tiger trapped in a concrete floored cage that has begun self-mutilating from boredom.

>>211632688
anti anxiety meds don't cure your anxiety and will only make it worse in the future. the only way to manage anxiety is to abstain from drugs or alcohol and try to socialize more

>>211650531
she's cried infront of me alot too after deep dicking her

>>211650416

>>211650915
Attitude can need fixing as well

>>211650886
TL:DR
There are very few things that therapy can fix that can't be fixed better by large amounts of money and travel.

people b like
>scientologists are so kooky
and still agree with them

>>211632620 (OP)
>Show based on a popular IP about zombies in a post apocalyptic world
>Introduce a female therapist character
Did a woman writer come up with this?

>>211650253
Fucked up, sorry that happened to you

>>211650253
Yeah I kind of feel that now. I tried to put on a facade of acting like everything is okay but once she got me to put my guard down and show her how stressed and anxious I get, she started complaining about how my mood was bringing her down

>>211651189
>>211650886
And how does a depressed person (who has no money) suddnely get money to cure their depression?

>>211651490
I don't get it, how come you have no money? I have literally done nothing with my life and I can afford anything I want that isn't a gigantic purchase like a car or a house... and I can actually buy a car in cash if I wanted to. Actually, already have.

>>211651490
That's part of the problem, because outside of illicit means or landing a job that pays you exorbitant amounts of money, you can't. Which adds to the depression. It's like being tied to the ocean floor and there is a scuba tank just out of arms reach.

>>211651537
It's not about having no money, it's about not having ENOUGH money. Sometimes people end up in a situation where they are earning just enough money to keep a roof over their heads, but not enough that they can take time off to be with their family, or cover something in an emergency. A lot of stress can lead to depression. Imagine you have a job, and you have a car that you NEED to get to that job, and one day the engine starts making a really concerning sound and you absolutely do not have the money to cover a repair, you can't even afford to save up because all your money goes into necessities like food, rent/morgage/ bills. So every day you drive to work, and that sound starts and you have no idea what you're gonna do if your car craps out because you can't afford to fix it or get another, and you can't borrow money off people you know because they're in the same position, and you can't get a loan because you can't afford to pay it back.
After a while that will fuck up your mind.

>>211651923
Can't relate, I'd never put myself in that kind of position. Ever heard of savings?

>>211652873
>I'd never put myself in that kind of position
Not everyone has the luxury of being able to choose.
>Ever heard of savings?
Savings are hard to do when you're living paycheck to paycheck, which a lot of people are, even families with two adults working full-time.