Thread 211642606

>woman with unsecured email server goes to prison for life

What did Gilroy and mean by this?

>>211642606 (OP)
It didn't mean shit. The writers couldn't think of a decent ending for the character where she got a comeuppance so they just pulled some bullshit about her superiors thinking she was a spy. She should have gotten a good ending where she got promoted because it would have made sense for Andor to end where despite the Rebellion being forged and knowing about the Death Star, the Empire itself was at its absolute strongest. That's where Rogue One and ANH get their stakes from.
But that would require Gilroy understanding Star Wars.

>>211642606 (OP)
Surely he means orange man bad

>>211642802
>comeuppance
So let me get this straight, you don't think being sentenced to life in a forced labor camp is comeuppance enough for a character like Dedra?

LOL

>>211642606 (OP)
> unsecured email
> not reporting that you were accidentally attached the classified planet killing weapon and making sure the program had opsec

>>211642802
>Rogue One
>stakes

>>211643282
Report to who?

>>211642606 (OP)
The prison should have looked like Leia's Death Star cell. Implykng she went down with it.

>>211643594
Holonet

>>211643046
It's not so much the end result, but more like they thought "she should end up in prison just like her parents!" and then never bothered to actually figure out a decent set of circumstances to get her to that point. So at the last minute they decided "let's just have her receive some emails by accident, and despite her being loyal, competent, and clearly respected by all her superiors to the point where she was given charge of a crucial part of ensuring the success of the Death Star which she executed flawlessly. Now she is immediately suspected of treason, and viewed as incompetent" despite the fact that her assertions that Axis was absolutely a serious threat were proven to be true, and also that the higher ups are pissed that the rebels now know about the Death Star, despite the fact that they are going to demonstrate it by test firing it on Jedha, and then blowing up Alderaan entirely in about a week.
Also the Rebellion learns about the
Death Star's existence at the end of Andor, and then suddenly forget about it again at the start of Rogue One, because getting the information that the Death Star exists and that there is a weakness is the whole point of Rogue One.

>>211642606 (OP)
>What did Gilroy and mean by this?
AND WHO

>>211642802
Rogue One doesn't have stakes.

Where was my kino season 2 cameo

>>211643791
Serkis didn't want to do it because he liked the ending he already had so much

>>211643437
>>211643759
Rogue One is about getting the Death Star plans, without them the Rebels wouldn't have been able to blow up the Death Star. If the Rebels hadn't blown up the Death Star then the Empire would have won entirely.

>>211643129
Made me physically blow air out of my nose

The more you watch Andor the more you will realize you just like the aesthetics in austerity, and less the story and writing in every way. Most of it is soap opera tier writing and dialogue, forced mechanically to keep moving forward. What you actually like in Andor are the dramatics and the sense of maturity these aesthetics give off. Aesthetics in camera shots, lighting, sets, environments, costumes. Aesthetics in ideas like seeing how the ISB functions, but not the actual writing of the ISB characters. It’s all very mediocre past the physical choices that make you interested. You likely can’t honestly say the story is interesting. It’s the brief ideas you’re introduced too that perk you up.

>>211643892
ORNOT

>>211643645
Why would the empire put someone who they think leaked classified information on a state of the art battlestation?

>>211643874
>Rogue One is about getting the Death Star plans
We know they get the plans, so Rogue One has no stakes.

nta btw

>>211646456
We do?

>>211646839
Yeah its revealed in a little movie, you might not have heard of it its called WORLD WAR 1

>>211642606 (OP)
That's not what happened. Why are you lying.

>>211643684
she was warned multiple times about being too ambitious and that cost her in the end. she could've had stellan arrested immediately, but instead opted to gloat and savour the moment. sure, it wasnt her fault that his assistant got away with a one-man raid, but she was conveniently a scapegoat for the empire and that serves as a device to show how ruthless they are even towards their own

>>211646456
>We know they get the plans, so Rogue One has no stakes.
That's not how stakes work. The stakes are if they fail, then the galaxy is doomed. The audience may know the outcome, but that doesn't change how high the stakes are for the characters. The same way we know James Bond will survive, but it doesn't mean he doesn't need to hurry to cut the floor out of the train before it explodes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JNLxKN1b4g

>>211647516
>but she was conveniently a scapegoat for the empire
But a pointless one. The Empire answers to no-one, the rebels finding out about the Death Star was basically a moot point because it was finished.

>that serves as a device to show how ruthless they are even towards their own
This is a quirk that I find interesting, because the OT never actually establishes that the Imperials are so willing to turn on each other. Tarkin is callous, but that's Tarkin, Vader kills without concern but that's because that is he role as second only to the Emperor and no-one is able to stop him. Piett actually displays concern and sympathy for Ozzel as he dies, and Jerjerrod asks for sympathy for his men building the second Death Star. Only Tarkin, Vader, and the Emperor are shown to be willing to kill their own.