Thread 211732698

1997s Lolita wasn't the uooooh lolita erotic movie I thought it was going to be
Although Lolita knew what she was doing, why do people say she's an innocent victim?

>>211732698 (OP)
>why do people say she's an innocent victim?
No idea, she's a total slut in the book.

>>211732698 (OP)
No idea but that scene of Dominique with the garden hose is incredibly sexy.

Because the whole point of the book is that he's an extremely unreliable narrator who fucked up her life really hard until she died.
>no you don't get it SHE'S THE SLUTTY ONE
>stops being slutty and cute the moment he gets tired of her

>>211732698 (OP)
It's only really worth watching for Jeremy Irons.

>>211733137
>lo is literally enamoured with a CP producer
>b-but le unreliable narrator
She's a cunt slut

>>211733137
doesnt she tell humbert himself that she was fucked up before they met?

>>211733165
This

>>211733210
She needed a good father figure in her life, no someone who would just go and fuck her.

Unironic sick fucks ITTs
Shame on you!

>>211733053
The book is bad a retarded
>Imma name my loli character after a literal demon and write her accordingly
>the real victims of pedophilia are grown men by the way

>>211733238
This is some absurd redditry

>>211733053
She was 10 dude
She is barely 16 in the end of the book and several years has passed since they last met

>>211733265
No lies detected

>>211732698 (OP)

i dont like it that leftardism is the reason you could never make that movie today whereas the "far-right" should be the reason

>>211733165
What a voice.

>>211733323
this. it's like the right has lost the pearl-clutching war. why aren't WE the ones insisting women wear burkhas and only go outside in the company of a man? it's like we've lost our edge!

>>211733323
I doubt anyone would complain if you did lolita straight
>child predator takes advantage of girl with issues
>girl blames herself and eventually dies
>everyone can tell the dude was an awful monster by the end

>>211732698 (OP)
>1997s Lolita wasn't the uooooh lolita erotic movie I thought it was going to be
that was never the point of the novel.

>Although Lolita knew what she was doing, why do people say she's an innocent victim?
pre-teen children exploring their sexuality is a normal occurrence. if you're an adult and find yourself in the middle of such exploration then you're meant to tread cautiously, not abduct the kid and try to fuck them.

the ending to this version was a bit too on the nose but i understand the decision.

>>211733287
She had sex adventures at the summer camp even before HH made a move on her.

>>211733392
Is 12 at that point btw

>>211733368
>>211733384
Sweet mother of reddit

Reddit is not molesting children
4chan is being on a watchlist and getting stabbed in prison

>>211733238
thats not what i asked

Anyone this fascinated with such subject matter is suspect

>14 year olds have zero idea what they're doing
Do redditors really?

>>211733424
>fucking children GOOD

>>211733462
13yo by own definition are no longer interesting to the protagonist albeit

>>211733635
ZASED AND KEYED

>>211733137
>until she died
She didn't die.

>>211733435
>Reddit is not molesting children

>>211733053
>she's a total slut in the book.
The book is written from HH's point of view. He's the classic unreliable narrator. You're seeing her how he sees her.
>>211732698 (OP)
Kubrick's Lolita is pure pornography.
>the hula hoop scene

>>211733899
>He's the classic unreliable narrator.
Or you are the classic hypocritical reader, interpreting the book to fit your pov. Absolutely nothing in the book suggests it.

>>211733824
let me guess, this is a Russian remake with a 10yo doing actual sex scenes.

>>211734058
first-person narration, especially regarding a story involving multiple individuals/POVs, is, in of itself, unreliable.

H.H. is in the throes of a mental breakdown from the very beginning of the novel. he describes himself as eccentric and unorthodox. the final meeting with dolores (if it happened at all) reveals that H.H.'s interpretation of events conflicts with dolores', she rebukes his retelling of events as fantasy.

>>211734112
no, it's just cp. russia is the pedophilia capital of the world.

>>211734304
>no, it's just cp
basically what I meant

>>211734112
>>211734304
It's a book cover.

>>211734304
You are inventing stuff, earlier you were saying her life was so bad that she died, which didn't happen either.

>>211734058
>Absolutely nothing in the book suggests it.
The book explicitly spells it out, you double nigger

>>211734542
>it dawns on anon that there are more than two people on this board

>inventing stuff
read the book you shit-posting faggot

>>211733053
wasnt even a virgin before Humphrey met her

>>211734703
Feel free to post the lines. The book is written in first person, I'm curious to see where he says "I'm making shits up btw". He even specifies he changed the names to protect them.

>>211734711
What echo chamber do you both come from to use the exact same language elements?

>>211733053
>total slut
Really? In the movie she's just an annoying brat, especially in the second.
But the pedo was a good guy, especially in the second.
In Kubrick's version he was more a father figure than someone sexually attracted to her. Lolita has no good movies, is the book any good?

>>211735110
>two individuals independently coming to the conclusion that i'm retarded must be the product of in-group cognitive biases
retard.

>>211732698 (OP)
its a shitty movie and they had to cast an adult for ethical reasons
teenage girls are stupid and can act like total whores, Ive seen it too much

>>211733137
there's nothing "unreliable" about humbert, it's a meme. he tells you everything very frankly. women simply find the scenario in lolita hot and they're embarrassed about it so they want to blame it on the narrator "tricking" them, hence the meme. he doesn't trick you at all.

>>211734112
>let me guess
i've never seen a post start like that and not be wrong and retarded

>Humbert is a liar
>Humbert is honest
Probably both are possible.
The difficulty in adapting this novel to the screen is probably due to the difficulty of depicting a teenage girl as sexually attractive, as well as the difficulty of figuring out how to portray Humbert's point of view.

>>211733323
>>211733366
kek

>>211735696
someone being mentally unwell and deluded doesn't make them a liar.

>>211732698 (OP)
>why do people say she's an innocent victim?
To overcompensate. Whenever I read a comment trying to talk some media literacy nonsense about the novel or the 2 movie versions being a onesided condemnation of Humbert Humbert I automatically assume it's either a brainlet or a hypocrite.