Danny Boyle "I’m not indian, I would not make Slumdog Millionaire now" - /tv/ (#211743713) [Archived: 1267 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:05:36 PM No.211743713
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>I wonder, though, how history will judge Slumdog Millionaire, his Oscar-winning 2008 spectacular about a ghetto kid who hits the jackpot. Boyle shot the film in Mumbai, partly in Hindi, and with a local crew. But it was a film of its time and the world has moved on.

>“Yeah, we wouldn’t be able to make that now,” he says. “And that’s how it should be. It’s time to reflect on all that. We have to look at the cultural baggage we carry and the mark that we’ve left on the world.”

>Is he saying that the production itself amounted to a form of colonialism? “No, no,” he says. “Well, only in the sense that everything is. At the time it felt radical. We made the decision that only a handful of us would go to Mumbai. We’d work with a big Indian crew and try to make a film within the culture. But you’re still an outsider. It’s still a flawed method. That kind of cultural appropriation might be sanctioned at certain times. But at other times it cannot be. I mean, I’m proud of the film, but you wouldn’t even contemplate doing something like that today. It wouldn’t even get financed. Even if I was involved, I’d be looking for a young Indian film-maker to shoot it.”


https://www.theguardian.com/film/ng-interactive/2025/jun/20/youd-never-make-slumdog-today-danny-boyle-on-risks-regrets-and-returning-to-the-undead
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:06:37 PM No.211743777
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>>211743713 (OP)
>Mumbai
Doesn't he mean Bombay?
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:07:20 PM No.211743805
>>211743713 (OP)
you mostly can't make slumdog now because the public opinion on indians has cratered since 2008
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:10:08 PM No.211743947
>>211743713 (OP)
segregation good
segregation bad
segregation good <-- we are here
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:10:16 PM No.211743952
It's not some great crime to tell a story starring someone thats not the same race or sex as you. Man I just can't understand where this came from.
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Zoom Zoom
6/20/2025, 8:13:12 PM No.211744082
>>211743713 (OP)
Why the fuck are the British and the Irish in an eternal race to see who's more cucked since the early 2010s?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:13:28 PM No.211744094
>>211743713 (OP)
I just found out the director of Good Will Hunting was born in Kentucky even though the movie is set in Boston. That’s heckin messed up yo
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:14:14 PM No.211744136
>>211743947
Don't interrupt the enemy when they're making a mistake. If we can't use chud arguments to bring segregation back then leftist arguments for it can come in handy.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:15:02 PM No.211744173
>>211743947
hes still not there yet but he would still fund it and put his name on it, even though he would have a bunch of jeets actually making it
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:15:50 PM No.211744202
good. he should just kill himself.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:16:01 PM No.211744212
>I'm proud of the film
>but it was colonialism
Sp this guy is proud of doing a hate crime huh
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:18:43 PM No.211744338
>>211743713 (OP)
What a fuckin maroon, God forbid westerners learn anything about foreigners
Make sure to tell Bollywood about this, no non-indians in your movies, and no Indian actors in Hollywood, fairs fair per Mr Boyle here
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:18:57 PM No.211744354
>>211743952
That's literally not what he's saying.
He's saying he's not Indian and has no connection or understanding of the culture. So for him to tell an Indian story is disconnected. He still defends the film but wouldn't do that now. Why do I need to explain the literal text that's written above in clear English? Is this the result of covid and ai? A new generation of retards who are unable to interpret information outside of the buzzwords and memes they're used to?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:20:34 PM No.211744421
>>211744212
>explicitly says the film wasn't colonialism
>"lmao this hypocrite is proud of a film but thinks it was colonialism at the same time, I guess he's proud of doing a hate crime haha!"
Are you illiterate or just a mouth-breathing dumbfuck?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:22:51 PM No.211744505
>>211744354
>>211744421
calm down Mr Boyle
your movie sucked btw
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:24:40 PM No.211744578
>>211744354
And what I'm saying is that there's nothing wrong with that. Do your research, have someone review your shit, get a co-writer and most importantly don't be a bitch about it this is how writing always works. He KNOWS this. This is fiction nobody should take it that seriously anyway. The real issue is that studios rarely let dark skins do big summer films. I blame the jews.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:28:34 PM No.211744752
>>211744082
God has blinded them to their origin to create the redemption arc.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:29:26 PM No.211744790
>>211743713 (OP)
She was so hot
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:29:33 PM No.211744795
>>211744421
>Is he saying that the production itself amounted to a form of colonialism?
>Well, only in the sense that everything is.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:29:44 PM No.211744799
>>211744338
Don't want nor need to know your, curry negro
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:42:53 PM No.211745415
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>>211743713 (OP)
Now explain Yesterday.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:44:15 PM No.211745473
Still can't believe this movie beat The Dark Knight
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:54:12 PM No.211745913
>>211743947
It’s not segregation to say that maybe a story that’s heavily entrenched in Indian culture should be directed by an actual Indian instead of a white British guy (who basically always end up being the default option because the movie business doesn’t really do much to promote and uplift and offer opportunities to directors who aren’t white until fairly recently. A native Indian would have better understanding of the material and culture than someone with no real connection to the country. Now consider that Boyle did a very loose adaptation of the novel that was written by an Indian author. And it got plenty of criticism from actual Indians after its released. Slumdog isn’t just a random movie that incidentally happens to take place in India. It involves plenty of Indian culture and has mistakes in it.

It’s no different from when Hollywood initially wanted to make Malcolm X with a white director and it took a lobbying campaign to get them to hire a black director. Maybe a white director could have made an entirely okay movie but Spike Lee for obvious reasons brought something very unique to the table that a white guy would have never been able match.

>>211744578
>Do your research, have someone review your shit, get a co-writer

Chuds don’t want sensitivity readers. There’s constant whining that you should be able to write whatever you want and it’s bad for anyone to give you notes and corrections, etc. in order to avoid stereotyping, racist caricatures, inaccuracies and misrepresentations.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:56:38 PM No.211746043
>>211743713 (OP)
>That kind of cultural appropriation might be sanctioned at certain times. But at other times it cannot be.
leftoids are so weird
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:59:17 PM No.211746176
consider the following
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>>211745913
probably bait, but I'll still bite

Does that mean you also think a movie like Brokeback Mountain shouldn't have been made, because it was directed by a straight taiwanese guy, instead of a gay american cowboy director?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:11:33 PM No.211746706
Yeah and lord of the rings should have been directed by a hobbit
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:15:08 PM No.211746867
>>211746176
Do you think Brokeback mountain’s story is intrinsically American by its nature and US culture is so deeply entrenched to its core elements and themes that a Taiwanese director couldn’t possibly depict or accurately adapt the source short story to the big screen? Even though Lee already had directed a highly acclaimed and successful film about being gay man who is living in America and having to hide his orientation from his own family?

There are certain issues about how a lot of mainstream media about gay is written, directed and portrayed by straight people so certain level of criticism is understandable. That doesn’t mean the movie shouldn’t be made, the point is about how most people don’t actually think about how when making something that’s about minorities or foreign cultures it tends to be the norm that these projects end up being handled by people with no personal connection or deeper cultural insight which leads to stereotypical depictions and the lack of personal experiences on the subject limits the scope and effectiveness of the story being presented.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:18:40 PM No.211747024
i'd let freida pinto shit in my driveway if you know what i mean
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:21:01 PM No.211747127
>>211743713 (OP)
the ending dancing scene ruins the movie, it's so off
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:22:50 PM No.211747193
>>211743805
This
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:23:53 PM No.211747241
>>211747024
>Freida Pino
Why does she have a latinx name if she's a pajeeta
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:24:17 PM No.211747256
>>211743713 (OP)
liberals are such spineless, self-hating cucks. They derive pleasure at encouraging others to treat them and their ethnic group like a scourge who poison everything they touch.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:25:26 PM No.211747304
>>211745415
I don’t really understand his jeetslop phase.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:28:05 PM No.211747423
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>>211743713 (OP)
that was a danny boyl movie? I always thought it was made by an indian. picrel
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:28:24 PM No.211747435
>Danny Francis Boyle was born on 20 October 1956,[1] in Radcliffe, Lancashire, England, about 6 miles (9.7 km) north of Manchester's city centre, to Irish parents Francis "Frank" and Annie Boyle
beware the Irish diaspora, they're even worse than Jews
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:29:28 PM No.211747497
>>211746867
>>Do you think Brokeback mountain’s story is intrinsically American by its nature and US culture is so deeply entrenched to its core elements and themes that a Taiwanese director couldn’t possibly depict or accurately adapt the source short story to the big screen?
Doesn't matter he's not a white American who the fuck cares what he knows? Only race matters.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:29:56 PM No.211747514
>He's one of "those people" now
That explains why he's completely shite now.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:30:34 PM No.211747541
>>211747497
So you’re just being disingenuous, m’kay.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:31:57 PM No.211747611
i may be confused here. was he claiming to be indian before or something? why is he declaring he isn't indian
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:34:54 PM No.211747745
>>211743713 (OP)
>>211746043
Leftists are politcal, cultural, and racial cuckolds
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:35:54 PM No.211747797
>>211746867
Sounds like colored cope
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:37:28 PM No.211747868
>>211744082
Our governments like to fuck us and when we politely ask them to stop, they fuck us even harder.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:37:44 PM No.211747883
>>211743713 (OP)

there are very few directors who have combination of technical craft, crowd pleasing eye and ego management skills of Danny Boyle, so it’s either he makes the movie and it’s a hit, or an Indian makes a worse movie and nobody sees it.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:37:58 PM No.211747892
>>211747541
>being poor and then winning the lottery is a story so entrenched in Indian culture that a British guy shouldn't be directing it though
You're inherently disingenuous. You can't not be hilariously hypocritical when you're this far up your own ass
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:38:38 PM No.211747919
>>211747241
hey she can call herself ursula "the ball crusher" hagenfrӧeger for all i care as long as she's shitting in my driveway
if you know what i mean
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:41:00 PM No.211748027
>>211743805
Spbp
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:41:48 PM No.211748060
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>>211746867
>Do you think Brokeback mountain’s story is intrinsically American by its nature and US culture is so deeply entrenched to its core elements and themes that a Taiwanese director couldn’t possibly depict or accurately adapt the source short story to the big screen?
Who are you arguing against?

I've never made the claim that Brokeback Mountain can't be directed by a Taiwanese director. Nor have I made the claim that Slumdog Millionaire can't be directed by a British director. You're the one who made that claim.

Based on your response, I'm guessing that the answer to the question I asked, that you didn't directly answer, is "Yes, I believe that Brokeback Mountain could have been made, and I don't have a problem with it being directed by a Taiwanese director."

Therefore, my follow up question is: Why? Why is it that as a british man, Danny Boyle could never fully grasp the intricacies of indian culture, but Ang Lee, as a taiwanese man, can fully grasp the intricacies of rural american culture?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:42:15 PM No.211748080
>>211747883
the issue is that international culture is still heavily anglo, so an Indian might just not be able to make a crossover hit version of the story (which I thought was quite bad anyway).
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:45:32 PM No.211748241
>>211747892
So you haven’t even seen the movie.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:46:07 PM No.211748275
>>211744354
>That's literally not what he's saying.
>He's saying he's not Indian and has no connection or understanding of the culture.

where does he "literally" say that he has no understanding of the culture?
All that he says is that he is an outsider, i.e. he is not Indian and that that in itself is "cultural appropriation".
Him not being Indian doesn't mean that he has "no understanding" of the culture.

And he doesn't offer any justification for why it's bad that he's telling a story about indian people when he is Indian?
He calls it "cultural appropriation" , but never before in history have nations of people said "no our culture belongs to us and that means no one else is allowed to tell any stories about our ethnicity"
Why exactly is it bad to tell a story about members of an ethnic group when you do not belong to that ethnic group?

Even if you do have literally no understanding of that ethnic group, that doesn't necessarily mean that that the result will be a bad or uninteresting story. Sometimes the fanciful imagination of foreigners can make a story more interesting or amusing.

So no justification of harm has been given, and no justification that the final product is necessarily a low quality piece of fiction has been given. So it seems like "cultural appropriation" is really just code for white guilt and anti-white hatred.
No European or American or Japanese ever cries about cultural appropriation when Japanese people make a piece of fiction set outside of Japan, like Vinland Saga in Iceland/England or a bunch of anime adaptations of European novels https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Masterpiece_Theater
It seems to only be white liberals expressing their self-flagellating white guilt and white self hatred , and certain resentful westernised non-whites who use this idea of cultural appropriation to demand that they be given extra jobs making movies and tv shows in non-western settings that would otherwise have white people working on them.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:47:13 PM No.211748319
>>211743805
This. As soon as they got internet they ruined any credibility they had
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:49:08 PM No.211748400
>>211748060
He won't reply to this because he's low IQ
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:49:13 PM No.211748404
>Shakespeare isn't Italian so Romeo and Juliet is cultural appropriation and shouldn't be allowed to be made, and that's a good thing according to retarded libcucks.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:50:40 PM No.211748460
>>211744354
Ang Lee? The novel was by a white bong too. It led to Patel's career, life isn't b/w
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:53:34 PM No.211748599
>>211743805
The public had an opinion on indians? This is news to me. I thought nobody gave a shit about them.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:54:36 PM No.211748644
>>211746867
>It's ok when Taiwanese people direct movies about American cowboys, but when British people direct movies about Indians orphans that's cultural appropriation and should not be allowed

once again supposedly principled "progressivism" and liberalism is revealed to be simply anti-white hatred.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:54:47 PM No.211748658
People who want stifle artistic creation are the purest form of evil in the history of humanity, regardless of whatever rhetoric they hide behind
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:56:10 PM No.211748718
>>211744790
She is still stunning. Has one of the prettiest faces ever
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:56:23 PM No.211748729
>>211747127
Not really when he was just emulating street shitter movies
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:56:51 PM No.211748752
>>211748060
Because the movie has received plenty of criticism from actual Indians about how their culture was depicted, sometimes inaccurately, and how certain aspects of it in their eyes promoted negative stereotypes. Same issue doesn’t exist with Brokeback, where the story is about two men’s romantic relationship. And again, Lee already had previous experience in depicting gay men in America. A gay/bisexual director perhaps could have been able to make even a better movie due to their own experiences with repression and living in a society that didn’t tolerate homosexuality. I’m not saying Boyle is wrong for directing Slumdog. I am saying the critique around him directing the movie has truth to it and it’s rather telling that the discussion immediately veers into “oh so you can’t make anything anymore” rather than actually addressing the issues being raised as to why people have critiques about the way movies like Slumdog end up being produced and who tend to be the people telling those stories on the silver screen.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:57:19 PM No.211748772
>>211743713 (OP)
If it was directed by an Indian it would be an Indian film and exist within its own void without a wider appeal
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:57:43 PM No.211748791
>>211743713 (OP)
Was really nothing special
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:58:32 PM No.211748827
>>211748772
yeah m night shymalan movies definitely have that problem
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 9:58:44 PM No.211748835
>>211745473
The Nolan trilogy is trash
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:00:27 PM No.211748909
>>211748752
>Because the movie has received plenty of criticism from actual Indians about how their culture was depicted, sometimes inaccurately, and how certain aspects of it in their eyes promoted negative stereotypes.
saaar this movie doesn't portray india as a futuristic utopia you bloody bastard bitch

Foreigners always seethe when someone makes a movie about their country that is less than flattering, if they're really bothered by it it's probably because there is some truth to it.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:01:19 PM No.211748953
>>211748827
>Guy who spent almost his entire life in America
Clearly segregation is needed and people should be defined by their background and nothing else
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:02:36 PM No.211749001
>>211748953
i think most people are shallow enough that all they really care about is that the guy who directs it looks like the people who are in it
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:02:54 PM No.211749016
>>211748275
>No European or American or Japanese ever cries about cultural appropriation when Japanese people make a piece of fiction set outside of Japan, like Vinland Saga in Iceland/England or a bunch of anime adaptations of European novels

Because the West already dominates the global cultural stage and there is hardly a long history of poor and stereotypical, often dismissive and negative portrayal of the western cultures in said Japanese works. There’s also the fact that very small group of people are even aware of them existing in the west.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:10:03 PM No.211749373
>>211743713 (OP)
How did they manage to market this as the feel-good film of the year because of a dance at the end, when it was misery porn with gangster jeets blinding orphans to bring in more revenue as beggars?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:12:29 PM No.211749512
>>211744354

a complete outsider can add a unique perspective. Ang Lee made a great version of Sense and Sensibility despite barely knowing English at the time.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:12:44 PM No.211749528
>>211749016
>Because the West already dominates the global cultural stage
It doesn't. Japan are more dominant in animation and comic books than the USA or any Western country, defeating the whole angle of your argument.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:13:12 PM No.211749557
>>211748752
>the movie has received plenty of criticism from actual Indians about how their culture was depicted,

says who? how much criticism is "plenty"?
I could just as easily say that Brokeback Mountain has received plenty of criticism from actual Wyoming cowboys about how their culture was depicted.

Can you demonstrate how Slumdog Millionaire was "inaccurate" ?
Furthermore, even if a piece of fiction is inaccurate in some way, that doesn't necessarily make a the piece of fiction low-quality or immoral to make.
Sometimes the quirkiness of a foreign author's misconceptions make the piece of fiction more original and interesting and amusing.

So again, you haven't demonstrated anything necessarily bad about a British person directing a movie or making a piece of fiction about Indians , or about slumdog millionaire in particular.
You're just regurgitating hollow , baseless criticisms that are really used to express white guilt and anti-white hatred and are cynically exploited by westernised non-whites to push white people out of working on movies and tv shows with foreign settings so that those jobs will go to them intsead.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:14:09 PM No.211749595
>>211749528
>but anime and comics

Don’t have any real significant cultural impact like live action movies and tv shows do
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:14:31 PM No.211749618
>>211748752
Do you then support Europeans who have criticism for how their culture gets portrayed with the endless black and brown washing? Don't worry, its rhetorical, no need to answer
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:16:02 PM No.211749694
>>211749373
because it had no dramatic suspense.

you know from framing of Dev being on a game show that he will have an answer to every question thanks to some contrived circumstance in his backstory. because the drama is all in the backstory we know he can't die. the movie basically tells you exactly what's going to happen from the first few scenes.

it's oscar bait: fake arthouse cinema that removes any real ambiguity.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:16:51 PM No.211749735
>>211749595
Now, you're just coping, Japan are also more dominante in video games which is the biggest entertainment industry of them all btw

We both know you're full of shit and your arguments don't hold up to scrutiny, just admit it and stop squirming like a worm
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:17:37 PM No.211749760
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>>211748752
>Because the movie has received plenty of criticism from actual Indians about how their culture was depicted, sometimes inaccurately
So, just because people from the culture being represented complain about how a film represented them, that means it's an inaccurate portrayal?

Do you really think it's that simple, though?

I mean, think about it. What if conservative rural americans complained that society at the time and place Brokeback Mountain is set in was not as homophobic as the film makes it out to be, that it's propaganda designed to make rural americans look more backwards that they are - or alternatively, that homosexuality didn't exist in society at the time - then this wouldn't necessarily mean the film is inaccurate, would it?

If someone made a movie in modern China, where China was depicted as an oppressive, totalitarian regime, and chinese people complained, would that make it an inaccurate movie?

If someone made a movie in modern Russia and Ukraine during the war, where Russian soldiers are shown behaving in a brutal way towards the peoply the occupy, and russian people complained, would that make it an inaccurate movie?

I think you get my point. I don't know exactly what those complaints are that you mentioned coming from indians towards that movie, and I'd be interested in knowing what you consider those inaccuracies to be. But if my guess is correct, it probably has to do with how much the movie focuses on the extreme poverty in India. And that, I'm afraid to say, is for the most part an accurate portrayal. It's changing, and I have no doubt indians will eventually rise out of poverty like everyone else did, but it's a reality for the time being, even more so back then. In that sense, Brokeback Mountain is actually a more accurate representation of India than 90% of Bollywood movies out there. Which should probably dispell any idea that someone from a specific culture is necessarily more apt at representing that culture accurately.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:19:06 PM No.211749817
>>211745473
>Story about some poverty striken non-white doing literally anything at a mediocre level wins an oscar

I'm shocked that your shocked.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:19:49 PM No.211749852
>>211749735
Japan doesn't give a shit if westerners make something Japanese themed as long as it's respectful. Many Japanese like the Last Samurai with Tom Cruise.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:21:31 PM No.211749922
>>211749001
I think the past ten years of cinematic failures would disagree with you.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:22:03 PM No.211749941
>>211749528
They might be dominant in animation, but animation is invented by whites so by the logic used elsewhere its cultural appropriation
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:22:26 PM No.211749954
another writer/director plainly stating that years ago things were better and you could make a passion project about any race or people
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:23:12 PM No.211749990
>>211749852
they seethed pretty hard about Lost in Translation because Tokyo wasn't portrayed as a paradise
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:24:36 PM No.211750045
>>211743713 (OP)
Why is the woman photoshopped on there? Indians are so weird.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:25:48 PM No.211750087
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>>211749760
>Brokeback Mountain is actually a more accurate representation of India
I meant Slumdog Millionaire, sorry, my brain is kinda retarded
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:25:52 PM No.211750094
>>211749760
It tends to be that the people who actually live and grew up in the country and culture being depicted in fiction have better understanding and expertise to be a believable authority on the matter of whether or not a foreign artist’s depiction of them is true and accurate or not.

>What if conservative rural americans complained that society at the time and place Brokeback Mountain is set in was not as homophobic as the film makes it out to be

No conservative would ever make such a claim in good faith because we know for a fact that conservatives are very much against gay people having rights and existing and we know from history that homosexuality was not seen or treated with acceptance. And the notion that gay people just didn’t exist back then is so absurd that everyone involved already knows the entire premise you’re trying to suggest here is pure horseshit.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:26:21 PM No.211750114
By his logic, he should only be able to write films about entitled rich Britcucks.
Keep pulling that ladder up behind you, you retarded fuck.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:27:25 PM No.211750157
>>211750094
>It tends to be that the people who actually live and grew up in the country and culture being depicted in fiction have better understanding and expertise to be a believable authority
That's bullshit, I'd trust the average white man's opinion who visited India over any of the disgusting locals who live there
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:27:35 PM No.211750161
>>211745913
People who open parentheses and neglect to close them should be executed.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:29:18 PM No.211750226
>>211748599
they went from "those little tech support fellas" to "those goddamn weird smelly monkey motherfuckers that scammed senile aunt martha out of tens of thousands of dollars (the one at the 7-11 that gets me my slurpee is fine though)"
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:30:35 PM No.211750281
>>211744354
>>211745913
>>211746867
>>211748752
>>211750094
You're such an obvious leftie reddit cuck it's hilarious. Imagine arguing on behalf of that failed ideology on 4chan of all places.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:31:05 PM No.211750299
>>211748404
how dare any man write about deflowering 13 y.o. girls deep in the Italian orange groves if he hasn't done exactly that and published the truest fictional account before he turns 18 with approval of all the cultural patriarchs in the area.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:32:12 PM No.211750344
>>211750094
Why are you only responding to this one sentence, and not the other? And for that matter, why are you basically ignoring my entire post? You've just repeated the same statement you made earlier without responding to what I've replied to you. You also did not detail those inaccuracies that you find in Slumdog Millionaire, like I asked. Which makes it difficult to know exacty what you're talking about and complaining about.

>And the notion that gay people just didn’t exist back then is so absurd that everyone involved already knows the entire premise you’re trying to suggest here is pure horseshit.
Yes, of course. Just like it was absurd when Ahmadinejad claimed that homosexuals don't exist in Iran, but he still made that claim. So, you do agree therefore that just because someone is from a specific country, that doesn't mean their representation of that country is going to be accurate?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:37:28 PM No.211750525
>>211749760
The critique by Indian people involves things like Jamal's use of perfect British English, inaccuracies like the author of the song that’s one of the question being entirely wrong, some Hindus view the depiction of Rama as offending, etc. The film has also received plenty of Indian academic criticism.

Same cannot be said about Brokeback because the backlash and criticism has nothing to do with American culture itself somehow being depicted wrong. Instead it revolves just around largely homophobic people complaining about the movie being gay. The object to the existence of gay romance.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:37:45 PM No.211750545
>I will never make a film with those shitskins ever again
wtf rude
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:38:52 PM No.211750589
>>211750094
>we know for a fact that conservatives are very much against gay people having rights and existing and we know from history that homosexuality was not seen or treated with acceptance
We do not know that for a fact, you are making an argument and either support that argument with evidence or you admit you are just making shit up. So far, you are just making shit up and expecting us to blindly believe you. At this point I am just going to chalk you down as a retarded faggot
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:40:50 PM No.211750663
>>211748275
I didn't say he "literally said that he has no understanding of the culture". Read what I wrote again.
So some people have the inability to infer obvious meaning from people's words. Like when a girl says "I'm just really busy right now and not looking to date", she really means that she isn't attracted to you and doesn't want to fuck you. Other people get mad when a girl says that and then starts dating someone 2 weeks later because they think they've been slighted. These people are often on the autist spectrum.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:41:13 PM No.211750680
>>211750344
It’s pretty disingenuous to compare depiction of culture and life in film and native people’s reactions to it to that of a politician claiming gays don’t exist.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:42:12 PM No.211750722
>>211749016
>Because the West already dominates the global cultural stage
So what? what difference would it make if the most famous global media was western or Japanese or any other nation? that's irrelevant to the question of whether it is inherently bad for a someone to make a piece of fiction about a different ethnic group.

> there is hardly a long history of poor and stereotypical, often dismissive and negative portrayal of the western cultures in said Japanese works.
So what? even if in the past a foreigner made a piece of fiction with a negative portrayal about another country, that doesn't mean a different foreigner's piece of fiction makes a negative portrayal of that country. Assuming that is itself stereotyping, worse inaccurately stereotyping.
How does the fact that negative portrayals of other cultures in fiction was more common 70+ years ago mean that it is bad today for someone to portray other cultures in fiction?

Also, why is it necessarily bad to depict a culture negatively ? by typical modern standards, and especially by "progressive" standards most past cultures and contemporary global cultures fall short. An accurate depiction of anywhere in the world 2000 years ago would end up being negative( e.g. the global legality of slavery). So should no one tell any stories set 2000 years ago? or should the legality of slavery always be depicted as a good thing since depicting a culture negatively is necessarily bad?

>There’s also the fact that very small group of people are even aware of them existing in the west.
That's not true. many japanese animes adapting western novels were syndicated and broadcast outside Japan for many years and were popular in other regions like Europe and Latin America, like Heidi - Girl of the Alps, Anne of Green Gables and Treasure Island.
Nordic people aren't upset about Vinland Saga doing "cultural appropriation"
Brazilian people aren't upset about Michiko and Hatchin either
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:43:09 PM No.211750767
>>211749512
They can, that's true.
You write this as if it's some gotcha. Boyle is just remarking on his own thoughts and feelings about the subject. And the majority of reactionary retards in this thread are seething like it's the woke cancel mob gone mad.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:43:16 PM No.211750770
>>211750589
The conservative movement hating gays is pretty well established at this point. They even throw their own gay members under the bus on a regular basis.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:44:47 PM No.211750825
>>211747541
>So you’re just being disingenuous, m’kay.
No? Whites aren't allowed to direct Indian shit, why would Thais be allowed to direct White shit?
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:45:47 PM No.211750859
>>211750825
Being gay is white shit? LMAO
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:45:56 PM No.211750866
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Based Boyle. Fuck Indians.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:48:48 PM No.211750983
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>>211750525
>The critique by Indian people involves things like Jamal's use of perfect British English
A common movie trope where foreign characters somehow speak in fluent English so everyone can understand. Everyone in Schindler's List also spoke English despite all being German. I actually don't really like that either, but Slumdog is not the only movie to do that by any stretch of the imagination, it's basically the norm.

>some Hindus view the depiction of Rama as offending
Offensive stuff ≠ Inaccurate Stuff. Many christians didn't like when someone made an art piece where Jesus's cross was dunked in piss, but that doesn't make it "inaccurate", just offensive.

>inaccuracies like the author of the song that’s one of the question being entirely wrong
That's the only actual inaccuracy you've brought up so far. And even then, not knowing which song you're talking about, that doesn't sound like a thing that's specifically related to indian culture. Many movies that take place in the US have inaccuracies that are much bigger than this, just look at the Social Network, it's basically a complete fabrication from start to finish.

Is that it? That doesn't seem like much.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:51:28 PM No.211751107
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>>211750680
>And for that matter, why are you basically ignoring my entire post? You've just repeated the same statement you made earlier without responding to what I've replied to you.

I can't have a conversation with you anon, if you continously only take one small part of my comment, ignoring everything else, and respond to it outside of its greater context.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 10:52:44 PM No.211751170
>>211743713 (OP)
>"I’m not indian, I would not make Slumdog Millionaire now"
He shouldn't have made it then. Indians pump out enough shit themselves, white people shouldn't be adding to that pile.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:00:37 PM No.211751513
>>211743805
It's true. I remember seeing this movie as a kid and thinking India was a strange mysterious land, so foreign and distant. I had no real opinion of them other than what I saw in this movie because I never really interacted with Indians. Then not even a decade later millions of them got dumped on my country's doorstep bringing their "culture" with them. Now I truly have become the Slumdog millionaire.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:13:11 PM No.211752094
>>211743713 (OP)
interesting thing about this movie is it was made during a time when normies thought of India as esoteric knowledge and yoga and shit but it portrayed them as the disgusting subhuman scammers they are, he was jeetpilled
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:21:34 PM No.211752467
>>211743713 (OP)
Never seen it.
Never seen a single Bollywood movie and I regularly watch television shows and movies from across the world, I'm watching a South Korean show right now.
I just fucking hate Indians and that's that.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:33:58 PM No.211752968
slumdog-millionaire
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>>211743805
Kek. He also didn't age well.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:35:11 PM No.211753026
>>211744354
He made a good movie. That's all that matters, faggot.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:38:43 PM No.211753188
>>211745473
It wasn’t even nominated, but the seething led to the nominations expanding which cheapened the category.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:40:26 PM No.211753260
>>211748599
literally everything people knew about india was from movies like slumdog millionaire, ghandi, temple of doom and some random travel documentaries that avoided the squalor.
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 11:45:48 PM No.211753512
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>>211753260
I knew the Indians burn their widows from the Jules Verne's book.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:00:36 AM No.211754149
>>211743713 (OP)
First-hand experience shapes understanding in ways outsiders can only approximate. Still, his effort with Slumdog Millionaire was bold and commendable, especially when Indian media was choked by nepotism and formulaic storytelling. Hindsight shows the flaws, but his willingness to take that risk pushed boundaries and opened doors for more authentic voices to emerge.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:04:27 AM No.211754325
>>211748752
>A gay/bisexual director perhaps could have been able to make even a better movie
>you have to be the exact thing you are portraying
The whole fucking concept of movies is people pretending to be something else to tell stories that did not really happen to them. Holy fuck I hate liberals.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:27:31 AM No.211755309
>>211744354
It's a weird mealy mouthed liberal ladder pulling bullshit.

>Yeah I did it but I wouldn't do it NOW

Oh so you wouldn't challenge yourself as a director by trying to adapt your style to a culture you're foreign to? Again, sounds like cowardly leftist bullshit.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:38:54 AM No.211755774
>>211743713 (OP)
>>211743947

Do leftists ever wonder why their political views flipflop from every extreme every 5-10 years?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:41:53 AM No.211755891
>>211744354
Ah yes the famous indian culture of "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire", thousands of years old and beyond the understanding of the white man.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:45:15 AM No.211756058
>>211755774
it's called self-reflection, you should try it sometime
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 12:52:42 AM No.211756397
>>211743713 (OP)
>he lets indians make this film
>terrible dance scenes for 1/3 of the movie
>cringey editing and chi graphics of his brain spinning around him as he has flashbacks
>no scene where the kid falls into the pile of poop, yet several scenes of public defecation
>who wants to be a millionaire host is an evil white guy
>the english that is there is terrible and intermixed with hindi in a hard to follow way
they did the world a favor