How should Odo have used his amazing abilities?
>>211840511 (OP)To infiltrate and subvoort hostile empires
someone tell Trek writers that Kim Cattrall ain't getting any younger.
It's time to bring back Valeris while they still can.
>>211843546The years have not been kind to 90's era CGI.
>>211844434DS9 and VOY's CGI looks incredible compared to something like Babylon 5 or most of the other contemporary stuff.
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>>211844529It was good for the time but TOS/TNG's practical effects have aged much better.
Now feel free to cherrypick with fuckass practical effects from those shows.
>>211844642What? Why are you hostile for no reason about something so stupid? lol
>>211844642TOS and TNG got new special effects.
>>211844642Babylon 5's effects were terrible even for the time.
>>211844685He's getting schooled by the magic of friendship on the other /trek/, that's why.
>The Outcast
Despite the memes from this episode, I think this is one of the most boring episodes of the entire series. Terrible.
>>211840511 (OP)To join the great link and conquer solids of course
I can't believe I'm doing my 3rd rewatch of ENT.
I stopped my TNG watch to do this rewatch.
I'll reset TNG after.
ENT is just too good.
I can't fucking believe I'm doing this
>>211845831>>211845888This isn't your blog, faggot.
>>211846064Damn. Getting your horse apples pushed in by ponyfuckers really did a number on you, bro. Have a calming cup of Klingon Tea to reset.
>>211846360What the hell are you talking about, you fruitcake? And it's not out of line to tell somebody who's blogposting to shut the fuck up.
This is an anonymous image board. I don't know you and I don't need a play-by-play on your life.
>>211846422>I don't need a play-by-play on your life.You don't, but I do. Post away blog-boy.
Indeed. We applaud blog-anon. MVP of /trek/ 2025 (the bar is very low but still...)
why do I associate her face with those hazy memories from infanthood?
>>211846776>hazy memories from infanthoodBe careful
>>211844529Babylon 5 was made super cheap. It looks like a soap opera.
How many rewatches did it take you to notice that thereโs nothing in the kanar bottle
>>211846914can you explain more please?
>>211848356In Star Trek, when a character has hazy memories, it's rarely a good thing.
I skip all wild west , WW2, and sherlock holmes episodes of Star Trek without any remorse.
>>211849166and koalas won't eat eucalyptus if it's on a flat surface, that's not a point of pride or discrimination, it just means they're dumber than a bag of hammers
Every time I see or hear "acoochimoya" I imagine the weird chanty part of Enigma's Return to Innocence, and I refuse to believe the cast didn't make that joke BTS. Voyager and Pure Moods were contemporaneous.
>>211851253Ohhh heyyyy ya haiiiiii ooooooooo-aiiii haiiiii yaiiii oh haiiiiiiiyoooowaiiiiiiiiiii oooo haiii wayyyyyy
>>211851161They have the smoothest brains of any mammal. And Chlamydia. Most of them are infected with Chlamydia.
The baby just died and Harry Kim got sucked out into space. This is such a quality episode.
>>211852123But now there's 2 Keses I don't remember exactly how this one ends other than Kim and the baby switch ships. Anyway, resume your duties.
>>211851317>They have the smoothest brains of any mammal. And Chlamydia. Most of them are infected with Chlamydia.I know the type well, Anon.
>>211849166You missed out on comfy
>>211851253at least they got an asian guy to play the korean character, but Chakotay's actor is just blatantly hispanic lmao did they ever explain this away or anything
>>211852773Mestizos have native blood
>Worf just fucking necks Weyoun
Kek
>>211852773Is it true that "historians" think all the Hispanic people were wiped out and fully replaced by immigrants? Cause that seems dumb to me. Easier just to conquer, interbreed, and reeducate them.
So this is awkward, but I'm watching disco and it's really not too bad
Just watched prelude to axanar. It was pretty boring
>>211853480They did a good job with the Klingons, but everything else in STD is bad? What do you like?
>>211853533I thought the Klingons were godawful and the actors hate it too
>>211853480What episode/season are you on?
>>211853766I'm on S1 E1. I'm trans, if that matters.
Anyway DISCO is great and I love the writing!
>>211853076WELL HELLOOOOOO
>>211853533Michael isn't the horrible woke character I assumed she would be, and while it's annoying to have Sarek and other brand recognition shit dragged in for no reason, I had thought she was meant to be Spock's literal sister, Sybok style, so I found her vulcan back story inoffensive.
In general I like all of the characters and I don't mind the edgy violence and constant heavy atmosphere. Believe me, I've done a fair bit of eye eye rolling but over all I enjoy it. Universe spanning mycelium network is a cool idea.
>>211853766s1e14 If you're trying to spoil it for me I don't really care, but I would prefer you didnt.
>>211854002No I'm not trying to spoil it I just know where it goes because I've seen every season and was curious where you'd be at to say you enjoy it. Seeing where you're at, I can kind of understand you still enjoying it. We'll see after you've sat through 5 seasons of it.
>>211854130When does it take a nosedive and how severe? GoT tier? Granted it doesn't reach the highs of early GoT
>>211854603I stopped watching GoT before it apparently crashed. I got tired of the absurd literally disgusting levels of gruesome violence. So I can't compare it to that.
Disco never really nosedives to me, it's just kind of bland and meh all the way through. But you're right Michael isn't exactly woke, but to me you just get sick of her after a while. Background characters get very little to do. It's 5 years of Michael Burnham. It's just tiresome more than infuriatingly woke or something. Aside from at some point there's a pair of trannies in a couple and I still don't understand who's supposed to be what. I don't understand trannies. Were they originally guys? Am I supposed to think they're females now? Am I supposed to think they're males now? I literally can't tell. So it's just distracting more than woke imo. That's about all I'm spoiling and it isn't much of a spoiler.
Ok so someone was honest about DISCO.
Now what about Strange New Worlds?
Picard?
>>211854833SNW is decent. It would be a lot better with a cast of original characters. The show handles established characters like Spock well but it cheapens the product greatly. The more traditional episodic nature is a welcome return.
Picard is a guilty pleasure nostalgia jerk with some really cool parts and a whole lot of infuriating parts. No matter how pissed you get at the trashy vulgarity and mean spirited people, you can't help but smile seeing old characters get together
>Nu-Trek schizo is talking to himself again
kek, just going to post a reminder or two
I hate Picard for the simple reason that it apparently wasn't enough to have Voyager singlehandedly shitstomp the entire Borg Collective, so Picard had to go and piss all over its corpse, then chop the corpse into pieces and flush it down the toilet, thus forever ruining one of the coolest factions in Star Trek.
Shit writing? Fuck yeah...
>>211855969>black man holding the slave leashstar trek truly was progressive beyond its time
Reminder that one of Roddenberry's hard-line limits was cursing and the use of contemporary slang in Star Trek as he believed it would date the writing of the show.
And now, the OFFICIAL /trek/ Star Trek television show tier list, as voted on by the 'cord
Undisputable /trek/ canon
I sometimes feel like that "THE SHEER FUCKING HUBRIS" line was directed at Rodenberry himself
>>211856040I couldn't agree more. It's painful to hear corn ball lines like that
>>211852773They hired an Eastern European Jewish guy to be their Native American cultural consultant.
>>211856040That's right girls, "mondo cool."
>>211856246To be fair the guy didn't just scam them, he scammed everybody, including the natives. The guy had credentials, had worked on all sorts of projects. Voyager just suffered the indignity of his being exposed while he was working on the show, if I'm not mistaken.
>>211856040It would still be bad and cringe even if it wasn't St. Eugene's holy writ.
>>211845000>Founders are masters at shapeshifting and can perfectly impersonate people, including high ranking officials, and never get caught>The Female Founder was able to perfectly imitate Kira>Odo isn't good at shapeshifting, since he was raised by solids, which is why his face is so badI know the meta reason is "we needed to show she's not just a human" but in-universe did she do a bad face as a joke against the solids and/or Odo in particular?
>>211856617There's no in-universe explanation, it's literally just spelling it out for the dumb folks at home.
>>211856323An investigative journalist had written an exposรฉ on him like a decade prior to Voyager, but I guess not many people knew about the article. He did stop saying he was Cherokee, but also didn't admit otherwise and let people keep presuming it based off his past job experience.
>>211856040THEY FUCK NOW?!
>>211856617she needed to look like that so Odo who can't shift into a convincing humanoid could impersonate her for that one scene
>>211856617It's a "I'm adapting this form for the sake of conversation, and I'm not trying to hide my nature so I'll use an appearance that you associate with us to be clear" thing
>>211845000>>211856617Did they ever mention when Section 31 infected Odo to get to the founders? Because the female changling was pretty much stranded in the alpha quadrant since the end of season 5.
>>211856849>Did they ever mention when Section 31 infected Odo to get to the founders?Yes
>>211856101I think Voyager is ahead of DS9.
>That one changeling that Odo buttfucked while AIDS-infected who then went out to search for more of the seeded infant changelings and was never able to be contacted and told he had AIDS
>>211856617I always assumed she did it as a joke against Odo initially and then just kept it for convenience sake when dealing with the alpha quadrant people
>>211856999that guy deserved to die of aids
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>>211856849>>211856916In season 4, Odo went through an exam to see if they could detect changelings and thats' when they infected him. The Founders separately made him sick later in the season to make him rejoin the link and be judged. That's when they made him a solid but also got infected by the Section 31 virus.
He met Laas midway through season 7 and wasn't cured until after, so Laas should be infected too.
>>211856999poor Laas :(
>>211857218>The Founders separately made him sicklooking back this was so pointless. solid Odo arc was dumb
>>211857305What if when The Founders turned Odo into a solid they forced him to be a red-tailed hawk forever instead of his humanoid form?
>>211855685>you can't help but smile seeing old characters get togetherOnly for S3. S1/2 had Rios but everyone else sucked in it.
Watching SNW must be weird durng a chronological watch. Going from that high tech 2025 stuff to TOS.
ENT ---> SNW ---> TOS
This is just strange.
think I may try this chronological watch order.
just go full on;
https://startrekviewingguide.com/
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>>211858084I am currently on a chronological watch and yeah it was a little strange but the strength of TOS writing made it quite refreshing. But its not ENT>SNW>TOS you have to fit two seasons of STD in there as well, at least that's how I watched it.
>>211858164This is what I've been following. It works pretty well.
color on the outside > colored turtleneck
also why did starfleet get into turtlenecks all of a sudden
>>211859581The turtleneck & the vest option complement War Sisko well.
>>211859139She should've had a stupid plant and some scissors
>>211859581They knew a fantastic tailor.
>>211859581I like the color showing as mmore than the subtle.
The worst uniforms ever were the Red TOS Movie uniforms. Garbage.
Best? I'd say TNG
>>211845000The pink skin and the Brain,
yes pink skin and the Brain
>>211861426I think I like TOS unfiroms the best, the only bad thing I'd say about them is that for uniforms they look really casual
Picard's sex jacket > you
>>211859581The grey shoulders make the whole thing a bit drap and I guess darker. As a uniform or costume I would prefer the colorful shoulders, but I would wear the grey shoulders casually.
>>211844434>The years have not been kind to 90's era CGI.
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>>211856040I remember watching S1 of Discovery and being upset by how fat and disgusting Tilly was... watching a scene from it now with the hindsight of how much fatter she would become, she actually looks kinda normal and cute there
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which species (with significant screen time) did i forget?
>>211866804what is significant screen time? Breen? 8472?
>>211866849significant as in good stories surrounding them, good characters, etc
i like the breen but they almost seemed like a joke (despite being so powerful in-universe) with stuff like the weyoun/damar convo
>>211866893& El-Aurian.
Plus whatever Neelix and Kes were.
>>211866918You can't really ignore Kes, Neelix, Guinan and Troy. There is little to their species, but they are main cast members for several seasons (except Guinan). And Betazoids are recurring, mainly of course Mother Troy. if you include nutrek, that would include that bridge alien.
Breen and 8472 are "recurring alien of the week", but have iirc 0 characters.
Voyager has a long Kazon arc (or at least it felt long to me...)
>>211867219Kazon we're terrible. Total cabbagehead death.
ATTENTION MAQUIS WORKERS
YOUR CONTINUED DEFIANCE OF FEDERATION LAW HAS GIVEN ME NO CHOICE BUT TO FLOOD THIS COLONY WITH NEUROCINE GAS
I ONLY WISH WE COULD HAVE COME TO A PEACEFUL SOLUTION
REST ASSURED, YOUR DEATHS WILL NOT BE IN VAIN, FOR THEY WILL SERVE AS AN EXAMPLE TO ALL WHO WOULD QUESTION THE VALIDITY OF A FEDERATION TREATY
>>211866918>i like the breen but they almost seemed like a jokeyou're absolutely wrong
>>211846064Coming from the guy that told us about his colonoscopy, that's rich.
Finished TOS tonight. What were your favorite episodes? I'll miss the colour when going to TNG.
>>211856101>ooooh le heckin authorities have spokenjust sad. despite your bullying, i will continue to have my own opinion
>>211869923I've never watched an episode of TOS, probably never will.
>>211869923I'm still on the first season. So far, Balance of Terror and Conscience of the King have been my favorites. Just terrific performances all around there.
The DS9/Generations/Voyager uniforms are possibly the worst in Trek outside of TMP.
They look cheap and poorly tailored, inconsistent as fuck. Just look at those collar things that vary from person to person, some go down past the chest whilst sometimes they don't. The grey tops underneath look like shit and clash with the colour.
I despise these outfits. A complete downgrade from the iconic TNG season 3 - 7 uniforms.
>>211870078Wonder if posting this even scratched whatever itch in your thoughtless brain. I hope you get hemorrhoids.
>>211870824It was more jarring seeing this setup than anyone else wearing the DS9/VOY uniform in STG.
>>211856101VOY deserves S tier. It's an old classic. Cheesy, but still within trek. Enterprise stays where it is. Rest all valid.
>>211871129Is this where everyone is wearing a mix of random TNG and DS9 uniforms?
>>211871320There was a uniform redesign for Generations with a weird collar but it never caught on, I think it's visible in a few scenes.
After TOS I'm thinking of watching ENT next. Any good reason I should watch Voyager instead?
>>211871868Yes, in that it takes place closer or parallel to TNG/DS9 timeline.
>>211871965But isn't Ent closer in time to TOS?
>>211853076Damar making fun of the replacement is so good
>>211872499yes its before but its nothing like tos, I'm not saying don't watch it but don't go in expecting something similar
>>211869923probably the doomsday machine or balance of terror, for a comedy definitely piece of the action, are you planning on watching the to movies or have you already seen them?
>>211840511 (OP)Fucking hell, AI is going too far
Or not far enough... ?
>>211870824grey uniforms are the best ones after the tos movie ones
>>211873414I'm not expecting it to be similar I just think certain relavant things might be fresher in my mind than if I watched Voyager first
>>211873492I wouldn't worry about it, their isn't a ton of tos references on the other hand it doesn't really matter if do watch it first its not like your going to get spoiled on something
>>211851479I love Shatner, but it feels like he could either die any day now (given that he's a bloated 94 year old whose heart may finally give out), or live another 20 years because of how youthful he still looks and acts.
I wouldn't be surprised either way.
>>211856040>watch Discovery>"MAKE THE EMPIRE GREAT AGAIN!!">someone went to "Elon Musk High", and he's named as one of history's greatest visionaries / scientistsSo much of that shit aged embarrassingly badly in just a few years.
>>211872586friendly reminder Weyoun 5 died in a completely accidental transporter accident and Dumar had absolutely nothing to do with
>>211873688seems like that complete accident might have backfired since 7 and 8 were way more cunty than 5
>>211873734but also less competent, 5 would've sniffed dumars treachery
>>211844642Redone for the blurays
>>211873781you're right I remember that scene where 8 notices he's in a good mood and not drinking and he's like
>Oh I get it you're confident now because you were sure you picked the losing team and now the Dominion is kicking assidiot lol
>>2118738878 was definitely the dumbest
>>211866804Trill first appear in tng tho they are so different they might as well be from ds9
>>211873972His chart is tracking their best shows, not their first
But speaking of bad TNG versions of alien races, never forget their version of Andorians (which later become one of the best alien races).
>>211874279why wold they do that they look way better in TOS
>>211874326in TOS they look so creepy and evil I love it
>>211871069Still not watching it
>>211874279>"throw a fucking Marge Simpson wig on a dude wearing a leotard and fingerless gloves, that'll do lmao"What were they thinking?
>>211874326It's so simple but it works perfectly, I'm glad they returned to it.
>>211840511 (OP)fucking hell lad
am I stupid or is the beef between Garak and Dukat not actually explained?
>>211874661It is. Garak was involved in Dukat's father being found out and declared a traitor by the Obsidian Order. He was executed for it.
>>211874340this mf was great
>>211874464don't forget those stupid looking insect antenna
>>211874761wasn't he the fake one?
>>211874761>futuristic alien>wears chainmail and studded leatherTOS feels so unhinged at times with its designs, I love it.
>>211874326This guy does a great "creepy effete politician," probably made a klilling playing Roman senators
>>211874908looks like he mostly played in horror movies mostly as the bad guy, played a vampire a few times
>>211874761I recognize this guy's face
He played a bad guy in a lot of TV and movie westerns, usually a low level hood
>>211873630Oh no no no no no no....
>>211875178uh just looked it up you are correct, he played a bunch of them quite a few with eastwood, outlaw josie wales, high plain drifter and a lot more
>>211875313>he played a bunch of them quite a few with eastwood, outlaw josie wales, high plain drifterThat is precisely what I remember him from, you're right, just watched Josie Wales the other day. Must've seen him in that.
>>211859581The turtleneck design was just to distinguish DS9 from TNG. Originally it seemed like it might just be the uniform for starbase personnel, but then Voyager started using it.
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>>211875305Discovery "fans" try to cope with this line, by saying that it's Mirror Lorca's disguise slipping, so of course he'd like Musk (who is hecking EVIL himself)
It is actually a pretty good excuse for retconning it in fairness.
>>211840511 (OP)What the fuck did I just watch.
>>211875447I did give you a viewing guide anon and that episode is clearly labeled as bad, Its great your not skipping but season one is hit and miss some really high highs but some really really low lows, but hey your almost done, season 2 is a big improvement and season 3 on-wards is excellet
Was this the biggest KWAB moment in Trek history?
>>211875669I've been in this shithole for 15 years so I'm not ashamed to ask, what does KWAB even mean?
Nobody thought to ever tell me.
>>211875669Getting out alpha'd by your old man is pretty KWAB
>>211875811kek what a bitch, a meme about a pro wrestler being raped (Kevin Nash) in 1992 which the wrestler acknowledged and responded to in a way that just made people meme it more
>>211875811Kevin Was Ass Banged
>>211876028>Kevin Was Ass Banged
>>211845000>to hear the lamentations of their women >and to check their digits
>>211875429Alas, the Musk Jr. High shit is from someone else the next season. Try as they might, they fucked Disco up by being so current events but that's basically the 2010s in a nutshell.
Obsessed with the end of history but demanding all culture be renovated & remembered based on that time period only.
>>211876854fuck off Gene Pedoberry
>>211876881Is this one old enough?
>>211876948what a dogshit 'sode that was
>>211877078>Mommy Daddy watch me cartwheel!>they conspicuously do anything but watch her and then she carthweels into a fucking caveSo fucking stupid.
>>211875669>You're a dead man Ap-ACK!
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>>211877787Somebody needs to make a webm of Apgar beating up Riker
great ep, funny that keevan completely mogs iggy pop as a vorta
>>211877985>actor mogs non-actor at actingthis surprised you or something?
>>211878047he's played in quite a lot of movies and shows and is a charismatic guy, idk even though he asked to be in ds9 its like he's phoning it in, its just odd been a long time since I've seen it and I kinda forgot
>>211878126Iggy Pop has sucked in everything he's been in, acting wise
He's always just cast because he's Iggy Pop and somebody involved is a mark for him which is fair because
I'M A STREET WALKIN' CHEETAH WITH A HIDE FULLA NAPALM
>>211878164lol, fair enough I mean if iggy pop asks to guest star you can't really say no
into darkness is ridiculously bad from start to finish. would be very hard to do a worse job on purpose
>the enterprise is hiding under water
>>211878253JJ is a hack and always has been
>>211878253How many times have starships and comm badges lost sensors and/or communications due to bullshit reasons for plot convenience? That's just one example of many.
>>211878253The JJ movies are all terrible. The whole idea of Into Darkness is offensively bad though. Beyond is almost decent but not quite.
>>211878418nebulas, ion storms or jamming devices every time unless some god entity is involved
>>211878465Obviously the water contained traces of boron radiation or something.
>>211878540More like SNORE-on radiation
JJ Trek fucking sucks
>>211878540nah it contained traces of a hack fraudation
>>211878253JJ's crimes against ST, SW, and his dipshit loser daughter should be enough to exile him permanently. He's kind of the Elon of media: really never actually made anything that gets acclaim but takes 100% of the credit.
>>211878253>the extremely subtle nod to the Wrath of Khan scene, where he yells "KHAAAAAN!" >Khan casually transporting over 25 billion times further than transports can usually reach, from Earth to Qo'nos (not an exaggeration, their max range is 40,000 km, he goes ~1,070,000,000,000,000 km)It's almost "so bad it's good" territory, but sadly Into Darkness is just bad
>>211878453The thing I liked most about Beyond is that they for some reason chose the fucking ENT era for the villains and their motivations, that was such an insane choice for a normie-targetted movie like that.
Normies know Kirk and Spock, the Klingons and Vulcans, they don't know Scott Bakula's Enterprise.
>>211879110don't forget the ridiculous scene where khan says him name super dramatically like the characters are suppose to know the significance
>>211878540The lens flares reflecting off the water blinded the sensors
>>211879164To be fair, they would know the significance. He was the Hitler of his time, and was known to have escaped the earth on a sleer ship.
>>211879110Maybe that was Simon Pegg's hand. I know he was involved with Beyond.
>>211879514sure but then you have the next scene where nu spock is called real spock to ask who he is
imaginary weyoun is more of a smug troll then real weyoun
>>211879681>lol Dukat we were all laughing at you as you cried about your dead daughter! lmao!Bit of an asshole, isn't he
>>211879733thats what I'm saying imaginary weyoun is so much more of a dick
>>211879780That whole episode is basically like Dukat arguing with 4chan schizos
>>211879826Why does this look like it was made in the former Soviet Union
>>211879827lol good way to put it, it may be character assassination but its very well done, really great acting all round
>>211879943I SHOULD HAVE TURNED THEIR PLANET INTO A GRAVEYARD THE LIKES OF WHICH THE GALAXY HAD NEVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!
I should have killed them ALL...
>>211879681it's so kino how Dukat actually internalized his disdain for him. his constant subtle negging was actually super effective.
>>211876948You know what they say about feral girls, don't you?
>>211879110>Qo'nosIt's Kronos.
>>211866804Romulans are at their most interesting in DS9 tho
>>211857218Laas was a bit of a cunt anyway
>>211857218maybe laas was so advanced as a changeling he cured himself
>>211844529Even Jurassic Parkโs CG looks like ass these days (at least on a modern HD tv or computer monitor). I think Trek did a good job with Odo; got the job done and got on with the story
>>211881569Okay, pink skin.
>>211879943>character assassinationso the first established and most frequently reoccurring villain of the series and length of the show actually is le evil and this is some character assassination?
What did you people expect Dukat's character arc was going to be; joining Starfleet, marrying Kira and riding off into the sunset living happily ever after?
The only character assassination was making him sympathetic instead of remaining the cartoon villain he was always meant to be.
>>211882186they had to kill his daughter in front of him make have a complete mental break down then make him full blown insane to have him as "cartoon villain" they wanted, the truth is he was always sympathetic and Ira hated it.
>>211882186they could have just let him keep being evil in a smart fun way instead of, as so you succinctly put it, LE EVIL. the character assassination has nothing to do with making him evil it's the fact that they made him fucking stupid.
>>211882256He was always the antagonist with some grey area that gave him depth, you just lack media literacy.
>>211882357He lost his mind
>>211882407>He lost his mindNo, he's not real. The writers made him stupid.
>>211866804Voyager bros...
>>211882407antagonist does not equate to "cartoon villian" thats the character assassination part you seem to be confused about also
>lack media literacywhy is it always those who genuinely do that say this? its like a kid who learns a new word but doesn't really understand what it means
>>211866804Mostly accurate but I really like the Q episodes of VOY
Death Wish in particular is kino
>>211882633>why is it always those who genuinely do that say this? its like a kid who learns a new word but doesn't really understand what it meansIndeed. Quite the misnomer !!!
>>211873448Movies were often on tv so I've seen them. Will watch them again when on.
>>211879826Why is she heiling hitler
>>211883671one more question did you have a favorite TOS ep?
>>211853877I have Damar's "Well hello!" as my message ringtone
>>211855992>these writers should strike more for better pay
>>211884345Not good with picking favourites. Metamorphosis stuck with me. The writing was what kept me watching even season 3 which was considered bad was entertaining.
>>211882633I don't think it was really character assassination, just a man driven to extremes by his circumstances. Dukat wanting to kill every last one of them comes from the fact that if DS9 was still Terok Nor that Ziyal would have still been alive. In a different time perhaps Dukat could have atoned for his crimes, but fate had a different desire.
>Star Trek villains who did nothing wrong
>>211888359>giving watsonian excuses for doylist criticismsmedia illiterate.
>>211888637If I'm being Doylist here, Dukat may have done some decent things but never in the story did they make him look like he was ever going to make up for his crimes. From a Doylist perspective, Dukat was always destined to punished for his sins during the occupation, especially when he was never truly remorseful.
>>211888917>never in the story did they make him look like he was ever going to make up for his crimesQuote where anyone in this thread said they think he should have MADE UP FOR HIS CRIMES or not be punished for his sins. I'll wait. Actually no I won't because it's impossible because no one said that shit. You are either not only media illiterate but actually illiterate and do not understand the post you're replying to or you're just some kind of retard who loves to hear himself talk and clicked on an unrelated post to spout a response to what the voices in your head were saying
>>211889025The core of people crying about Dukat's supposed character assassination is that they bought into Dukat becoming a better person and thought that his endpoint was to become a real hero of Cardassia. I've even heard some say that the original plan was for Dukat to have Damar's role but that evil Behr changed this because people liked Dukat too much.
>>211889258>The core of people crying about Dukat's supposed character assassination is that they bought into Dukat becoming a better personAre these "people" in the room with us right now? You are actually just talking to the voices lol
>>211889318Are you new to the fandom or something?
Trek needed more Troi turboslut episodes.
>>211889383no this happens in every fandom some fucking shithead will just join a conversation without reading it and assume its content based on what other, different people, somewhere else once argued.
>>211889489Your entire point was that Dukat was too sympathetic for you to accept him losing his shit. You don't get to pretend now like you think anything else.
>>211889407Does the counsellor have a position on clean-shaven mons pubis?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mons_pubis#/media/File:Poolside_anterior_view_of_mons_pubis.jpg
>>211889734I accept your concession
>>211889407Troi was a hermaphrodite
it's canon
>>211893137>Troi was a hermaphroditeglad she got better
>>211889407One day AI will provide.
>>211890071Zero percent chance
>>211894398>TOS episode with these gross uppity hippies who remind me of Maquis>Spock likes them for some reasonUgh.
>TOS episode with these gross uppity hippies who remind me of Maquis
>Spock likes them for some reason
Ugh.
In /trek/ news, maybe the Nu Trek Spammer finally killed himself or the mods finally did their job
>>211895622the spammer is ambassador t'pel, the mod is sub-commander selok
Regardless of what you think about Move Along Home, the actor playing the leader of the gamblers was really good.
>>211895524>they've taken over the ship by distracting the entire crew with their terrible musicThis is so embarrassing
>>211856617Her whole ideology is โsolids badโ. She doesn't want to look like solids, doesnโt want to be mistaken for one (when she isnโt infiltrating the solids), and doesnโt want them to be comfortable around her.
>>211895524It's a great episode, with a lot of dated but fun scenes and a solid theme
>>211895524That episode demonstrates why Roddenberry wanted to keep slang and contemporary language out of Star Trek
When you watch old TOS, the effects might date the show but the writing never does, until you get into late S2 and S3 studio-meddling-slop that is, like the hippie episode.
Still cant believe Starfleet let Obrien marry a 10 year old
>>211896616The old excuse of "I only post this to run off the schizo" wears a little thin when the schizo isn't in the thread, anon. I'm starting to think you're just a pedophile.
>>211896586it's not that bad because in context it still works. they're a bunch of weirdos who talk jive that only Spock seems to get. it is dated slang but it doesn't make it feel "dated" in context imo
>>211896616age of consent is tricky with 150 species on 1,000 different worlds
>>211876019fake news
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/wwe/9121737/wwe-kevin-nash-denies-raped-fake-post/
>>211896693I'm watching TNG for the first time and have only lurked these threads once or twice, didn't realize it was overplayed. should have guessed though
>>211877971https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEWaXOkeiZc
>>211876881O'Brien was a pedo, though. Remember the DS9 episode where he got caught creeping on a little girl in the laundromat? Oh, the uproar after that was broadcast. It was never broadcast again. They redid the episode and memory holed the original. But that was back when I used to videotape live TV, so I managed to preserve it.
>>211879826But it's missing the cameltoe!
>>211881564Feral girls don't say no?
>>211884281Why isn't everybody?
>>211889407Marina Sirtis had a soft-core porn career before landing the role of Troi. Check out 1983's "The Wicked Lady" (where she's topless most of the time) and 1984's "Blind Date" (more bare skin).
>>211897633Your webms have always been terrible, MKULTRA. This is why everyone on the 'cord ignored you.
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>>211895622The Nu Trek Spammer is dead. Long like the Nu Trek Spammer!
>insult MKULTRA
>Nu Trek spammer appears
Fascinating.
What if Picard was one of us?
Just a 'tard like one of us?
Bloo bloo bloo, bloo, bloo bloo bloo,
Blee blee blee blee blee...
Captain Janeway teaching Seven how to take care of herself
>>211898619>take care of herselfGo on.
>Spock sees a beautiful woman
>Later that night meditating to himself "I sure hope she doesnt actually support bullshit racist society of this planet"
>Seek her out and she goes straight to asking if they can fuck and he's like "yeah"
>Troglyte shows up and she's racist as fuck towards her
>Spock snaps out of it and gives her a lecture
kek the relevance to current day. like finding out your date was hiding his redpill incel powerlevel
>>211898619Seven after reading a few issues of 20th century "Cosmo" magazines
>>211898834As a sexually mature virgin naive human female, there are some things the doctor just isn't suited for. The captain takes it upon herself to teach Seven everything she wants to know. This episode will exist one day.
>>211896693>I'm starting to think you're just a pedophile.Kid Keiko is the one who was rubbing O'Brien's face in it.
>>211899549>COOOOOOM!!!! Such... COOM!>COOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!
>>211898461RIP MKULTRA (IYKTK)
I think it's just someone fucking with you guys.
>>211840511 (OP)What fucking episode is this lol?!
Reminder that if Odo took on the shape of the extinct Earth bird the Dodo, that he would be an Odododo.
>>211899885>>211898192Imagine being so pathetic that even /mlp/ comes together to dunk on you.
>>211898850I just finished this episode and it seems like a Prime Directive violation except for the fact that this planet was apparently already Fed affiliated but how was a society that has slavery and exploitation like that allowed to join in the first place?
>>211899958The First Doodie
>>211900164NuTrek spammer tried samefagging in the /trek/ thread on /mlp/ and even the Bronies told him to fuck off.
>>211900203Link? I gotta see this for myself.
>>211900255>>>/mlp/42291476
>>211900296Where's the telling off?
It's the episode where Rom tries to unionize :|
>>211900556Cringiest episode of Star Trek.
If Unions had their way, transporters and replicators would be banned.
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>It's an episode where I'm supposed to sympathize with Odo
>>211900631Which one did you have in mind when saying this?
>>211900700The one where Odo has sex for the first time and immediately is OK with killing all of his friends
>>211900811I thought that was the 2nd time? Anyway I doubt if you're meant to sympathize with him he literally tells Kira to her face her life doesn't matter to him anymore.
>>211900622Chase Masterson is a really bad actress. Also if unions had their way, they wouldn't be allowed to talk to the computers and use AI all over the ship. Data would be illegal.
>>211900961That's what I'm saying though, Section 31 are actually the good guys when they give Odo space AIDS
The Romulans are so good at making black holes that they can build their ships around the idea, but they need Spock's help to make a black hole. Fuck JJ.
>>211900811To be fair, I would also be OK with it.
>>211901065it's pretty sad how when I first started watching DS9 he was my favorite character and the one I related to the most and then you find out he's a typical scumbag and pretty much treats Kira like shit after all that pining and slow burn and is just disloyal and easly manipulated in gneral which is the last thing you'd expect out of him in the beginning. I get that characters have to have flaws and failings and stuff but idk man. I totally wrote him off as a person of value by the end of the show desu. fuck Odo
>>211901294He's a flawed character from the start. He's basically a Nazi collaborator for having worked for the Cardassian Occupation. Also, his much vaunted adherence to the rule of law is constantly set aside to help Quark.
>>211901439>He's basically a Nazi collaborator for having worked for the Cardassian Occupation.You know what I loved is how at the very end of the show someone finally brings that up to Kira who had always been so black and white thinking when it comes to who is a collaborator worthy of death or not, and it was a Cardassian who points out her boyfriend is one and she had no answer for it and just put him in a chokehold lmao. flawed characrers indeed
>>211901594prophets I wish Nerys would put me in a chokehold
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