I know Shia Labeouf is a meme and to anyone under 25 looks like a seething degenerate has been, but why did Hollywood not really embrace Shia as the next young star like a young Leo or Timothee Chalamet?

Every tail end millenial circa 2008 had seen Disturbia, Transformers and Crystal Skull. He was a part of pop culture from that era and was hanging out with Kid Cudi in his prime. He was dating "it" girls like Megan Fox and Lauren Hastings. But then in the 2010s Hollywood drops him and tries to give his career to Jon Bernthal, with mixed results.

Nah Shia a real one fr. They discuss this on the real ones podcast (with Jon bernthal)
Basically he burned a little too hard and a little too local for the hollywood bigwigs

>>211840819 (OP)
At least he gets to grab some Goth titties

>>211840819 (OP)
I mean he got accused of rape and domestic violence more than one time and he was always drunk back in the day
seems like he maybe calmed down recently?

>>211840819 (OP)
Crystal Skull was awful and he completely fucked up back publicly shitting on Speilberg over it.

>>211840819 (OP)
Shia is correct here
there was a pretentious clique of pseud actors talking about film theory revival and philosophies, poetry recitals and art installations that made everyone roll their eyes (seem to remember James Franco involved?)

All anyone knows about timotee is that he fucks a woman with black kids and doesn't outshine her (though this itself is a lynchian art installation), much more zeitgeist

>>211840819 (OP)
LaBeouf is a better actor than Chalamet. By far.
He didn't want to play the Hollywood game, so he got left behind anyway.

>>211841705
>there was a pretentious clique of pseud actors talking about film theory revival and philosophies, poetry recitals and art installations that made everyone roll their eyes
Yes, Shia never took part in pretentious "performance art".
https://time.com/6094/shia-labeouf-plagiarism-scandal/

>>211841717
>He didn't want to play the Hollywood game
he says about the guy who try to get a role in all the hollywood slop he could.
the only reason this stopped is because he was a piece of shit.

>>211841293
was it rape?

He was a great child actor. That was all.

>>211841293
GIWTWM

>>211841313
he only delayed the inevitable, he still has to go to trial for that stuff

>>211840819 (OP)
I have jew fatigue.

>>211840819 (OP)
Because he couldn't carry a movie on his own. No movie he starred in that wasn't Indiana Jones or Transformers made money. Then he went and said the movies he was in were bad. Considering he owed his career to Spielberg, publicly badmouthing his output, while accurate, wasn't something that was going to benefit his career.

>>211841717
Pretty much. I remember Shia being astroturfed as much as Chalamet. Diference is Shia is a good actor. Chalamet is a nepo-fag with zero skill.

>>211842356
Whenever someone assaults or sexually batters me, I always forgo police involvement and go straight to the lawsuit.

>>211841717
Gotta agree, I never liked him much but looking back on what we have now he was giving his best, also afaik he's not being carried only by being a huge nepobaby like Chalamet.

>>211842669
>>211842762
>nepobaby
You speak like twitter stans. You can't even tell who his famous relatives without google

Shia never had the makings of a varsity thespian

All the Disney Channel kids got shilled way too hard once they got older, had a couple of movie roles, and then faded from the public eye because they couldn't act. The only difference in Shia's case is his massive ego about it, which is why his legacy is being assmad over losing at CTF

>>211840819 (OP)
Shia is a better actor but also starred in bigger mainstream Hollywood flicks with little critical and/or artistic cred. Chalamet is an extremely uninteresting actor that has chosen good projects to star in, plus he’s considered more attractive so there’s that.

>>211841293
Are they supposed to hang that low?

>>211841717
Yeah I actually liked a lot of his bombs too. Right before his career was ended by allegations, he had a good stretch with Honey Boy and Peanut Butter Falcon. The latter really sold me on why I liked the guy in the first place, he could make sentimentality less corny. I'm definitely more pro Shia than I thought I was before reading this thread.

>>211840819 (OP)
He was clearly groomed to be a successor of big stars. Wallstreet money never sleeps. Indy. Even paired with prime Megan Fox. I'll tell you the reason: he's threatening to women (even beat fka twigs up) unlike Chalamay, can't fit into high fashion (many types of powerful ppl intersect there), + he went into indies instead of staying as the face of IP's. Industry push makes a big difference (GQ never fawned over anyone like they do Chalamay's ~"as we continue to chronicle his career".)

>>211844268
>All the Disney Channel kids got shilled way too hard once they got older,
That was so they wouldn't talk about all the diddling they had to endure.

I'm not sure about his IQ. He got permanent tattoos for that David Ayer movie.

>>211845513
PR is a powerful drug. I see Oscar pundit NPCs get hostile about every biopic that comes out, but they were rooting for Chalamay to get Oscars for Dylan. They make exceptions for who the industry wants to push.

>>211845814
yes, for a grandma

>>211842015
that may have been annoying af, but infinitely better than IMDB literally giving definition of "Drama" like they're a kid's encyclopedia. 20 years ago IMDB was for the HS/college set, now it's dumb af.

>>211846209
That was one weird movie, specially since his character is not the lead and he dies after like 20 minutes

>>211841237
i experienced ego death reading this post. salud, global freezer.

>>211840819 (OP)
No, he was never going to be a bigger star. They tried to sell him as a heart throb, he came off as desperate. They tried to sell him as bumbling fool with a heart of gold. He came off as a bumbling fool who screeched like a wounded animal. They tried to sell him as an action hero inheritor to another action heroes throne, he swung from a vine with monkeys. He always seemed like he was trying hard to make everyone believe he belonged there. He just came off as a tryhard. That was all before Trump buck broke him so hard that we finished him off with a flag pole

>>211840819 (OP)
Conveniently leaving out the fact that he's a profoundly mentally ill, violent drug addict. If it weren't for the money, he'd be one of those feral homeless that's always getting into fights with the cops. After being a junkie who likes to fight people, he became a new, different kind of annoying person: the born again Evangelical soberfag who won't shut the fuck up about his ''struggles''

>>211841717
Labeouf is fucking shit. “IM ACTING”: the person.

Crystal Skull was all Harrison Ford.

>>211840819 (OP)
Oh look. Two jews.

>>211840819 (OP)
Didn't he stop showering for some gay tank movie

>>211840819 (OP)
The fact that Timothy is like this rich internationalist kid whos from New York and into like faggy fashion stuff BUT he plays up that hes really into rap just pisses me off. Its like hes clearly this theater rich kid type and hes trying to LARP as a wigger or something. Not like white trash/hicksville wigger, in that way that zoomer urbanites will wigger out and skate right on the line of the great sin of cultural appropriation

>>211840819 (OP)
Shia was never that likeable. He's the worst part of Transformers.

>Wow bro good on you for sharing and being so honest and such a Real One™. It's good that you managed to forgive yourself for violently beating your wife and have stopped freezing globally

>>211840819 (OP)
The only good thing he ever did was Transformers and it wasn't him.

>>211845814
Are you new to female anatomy?
Is that the first bag of sand you've seen?

>>211852079
What, people aren't allowed to have multiple interests now?

>>211846120
Schizo. You're thinking too much with your conspiracy mind. It's all just luck and circumstance. You think everything is all planned out. You people are insane.

>>211840819 (OP)
it's unfortunate, he is underrated and actually a very skilled actor. I've watched all of his stuff since Even Stevens.

>>211846266
Nope.

>>211840819 (OP)
Shia was already too schizo at that age

>>211849322
And? Jew means something different to you I guess. Like it's bad or something. Faggot.

>>211840819 (OP)
both are shit actors and chalamet is a homo.

>>211853506
Do you know where you're at sir?

>>211845814
Big natty tits tend to do that

>>211853506
You sound like a seething like

I don’t follow this Chalamet character but I remember Shia being incredibly annoying, a textbook “I am le artiste, irreverent, breaking down barriers and bleeding for my craft” try hard.

Yet all that said, he is based if only because of >>211841293. A titty man after my own heart.

>>211845814
Oh yea, bud

>>211840819 (OP)
>why did Hollywood not really embrace Shia as the next young star like a young Leo or Timothee Chalamet?
Probably because Chalamet and Leo are handsome and good actors. Shia isn't really either of those things

>>211853487
This. He has been a loon for a long time

>>211853452
You're illiterate. His post basically pointed out that Shia has bad networking skills and worse PR sense, vs Chalamet who clearly is willing to network and not publicly shit talk powerful people in Hollywood. There's nothing conspiratorial here this is how every industry works.

>>211840819 (OP)
Shia was never taken seriously as an actor because everyone knew him as the weird kid from the Disney Channel.
People also hated him in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull because they thought he was going to be the main character of the series going forward.
By the time people forgot about those things and he was able to show he actually had acting talent, he had become a weird, smelly, lunatic and so he was still disliked.

>>211845814

>>211846746
You are correct and still Chalamet is worse. They are not even trying with that faggot, just shilling him everywhere. No range, no charisma, nothing.

>>211840819 (OP)
He had big roles and completely sucked. He tried to go for the pretentious artsy crowd and did nothing but plagiarize Dan Clowes and have mental breakdowns.

>>211845814
do they wobble to the floor?

Is he still seething about Trump?

>>211841717
>He didn't want to play the Hollywood game
He played it 100%. After being chosed by Spielberg he was the protagonist of 3 Transformer movies and the co-protagonist of Indiana Jones 4 and he went on th appear on countless unnecesary slops. But it was all because of his connections because nobody thought there was anything special about him. He was the jewish John Boyega.

>>211840819 (OP)
shia is like chalamet, cara delevigne or zendaya, a plant that no one likes but keeps getting roles due to nepotism, until that runs its course and they get replaced

only women seem to like zendaya and chalamet, don't remember that about shia

I like Timothee Chalamet, and I'm not a woman. Listen to him talk about his process and I think you'll appreciate him too. This interview with Scorcese in particular is really good. He's a much more nuanced and disciplined actor than you give him credit for.

https://youtu.be/sB_JZLp521g?feature=shared

>>211840819 (OP)
jew boy talks like a hood nigga now
shia is michael rapaport

>>211853439
Only if you don't like them

>>211854022
This, funny how everyone just forgot Shia's mid 2010s crashout era

Shia is a terrible actor and tries to overcompensate it with his “I AM ACTING” that just makes it worse. He also chooses terrible projects, is an asshole with a drinking problem and is currently dealing with sexual battery and assault lawsuit. That’s why his career is terrible and he has no indie cred.

>>211852079
>Noooooo only people like me can like rap music!!!! If you’re an actor you can’t enjoy music like that!

>>211840819 (OP)
He will make a career resurgence as the new person Welles

>>211857201
won't watch, none of what you claim shows on screen, dead eyed dead faced bore

>>211840819 (OP)
Is chalameeeeeeeeeeet also a drunken fucking retard who pulls out his own teeth on set, never bathes, gets in fights with normies and gets his ass kicked on the regular?

>>211857937
Both are theater kids cosplaying wiggers for street cred. At least Shia doesn't do lame PDA for paps

>>211842485
Fucking this

Hollywood use to be filled with Chad Aryan males now all we have are twink Jews. It's disgusting!

>>211841630
it's this

he was given a golden baton and he shat on it. you simply do not bite the hand that feeds you in any profession, certainly not in hollywood where connections mater most. he dissed spielberg publicly, that ended his trajectory

>>211840819 (OP)
>Jon Bernthal
holy shit he's the same age as shia laboeuf

>>211840819 (OP)
>Implying he wasn't already a big star

>>211840819 (OP)
Shia and Timothee should become boyfriends and get gay married. I don’t know why young actors aren’t going that route for the sake of boosting their careers. Imagine if Heat Legend and Jake Marblewall announced that they were a legit loving gay couple after making Brokeback Mountain?

all i know is that shia lebouf would never star in a movie where he jacks another man off in a field

>>211859154
No he isn't.

>>211840819 (OP)
did you fucking forget that he dropped entirely out of hollywood because he felt he was being typecasted?
everyone wanted him in their movies but he turned them all down because he's a selfish prick who only cares about his own public image

>>211840819 (OP)
the fact this guy is so famous still shocks me whenever I see him anywhere; I still feel the same feeling as when transformers came out in 2007, "wait, is this that kid from i, robot?"

>>211840819 (OP)
Why is Chalamat the only new name?
Back in the day we had Pitt, Cruise, Gosling, Daniel Day Lewis and so many others.

Chalamat can't even dress himself

>>211840819 (OP)
he was a heavily manufactured star who was raped by Tom Hardy on their film set and started lashing out at the world by lowering his voice and becoming violent. He could have ridden the wave set up for him but Chalamet is a little more talented, less Jewish (has a soul)

>>211859477
This movie is actually good

>>211853506

Transformers >anything the little fags been in

>>211862768
in contrast to lebouf movies which are all trash