>Both considered peak of their time
>Both memoryholed due to how outrageously bad the endings were

You made this thread already.

Incredible that walking dead ended less outrageously than these two

BSG did it first

But I do sometimes wonder if it's better for a show to drag on and on like TWD until it gets canceled because no one is watching it instead of just abruptly ending at peak viewership as quickly as possible and immediately disappointing everyone.

Is it really that hard to have an ending people like?
Just have the main character / favorite characters do cool shit.

>>211872923
walking dead ended??

>>211873022
>BSG ending bad
What the fuck? I mean, it was a bit ridiculous, but not outrageously bad. All in all, the plot in BSG was quite ridiculous, the prophecies etc. It went too far in the start and it got quite cringe from time to time. The show would've been much better if it was just cylon vs. humans looking for a place to live (not Earth), no prophecies or religion involved.

That said, would still recommend the show. I avoided it for over a decade, just watched it recently and some episodes were absolute kino and 8/10 all in all.

>>211873057
>Just have the main character / favorite characters do cool shit.
One of them did that, but the author decided you were a bad person for liking it, so he retconned it.

nah GOT had 2-3 bad seasons that people kept watching because they were 7+ years invested - not a bad ending

sopranos had a bad ending - bad season even - but people can still recommend it to watch now that its off that air. how you gonna recommend a show when you have to tell them to stop at red wedding. its got bad word of mouth

>>211872846 (OP)
The real answer is they were fads

>>211873153
Maybe it's a cultural thing? In Japan they don't like anti-heroes as much as they do in the west.

>>211873170
>sopranos bad ending
Take your words back, it was one of the best endings there ever has been. The ending was original, bold and shocking. Perfect, I'd say.

>>211872846 (OP)
First GOT seasons were amazing and Jon got to fuck his hot aunt. Meanwhile attack on cuckolds ended in the most cuckolded pathetic way. you should add hero academy too

>GoT
>bad ending
Entire second half of the series was bad. it became utterly unwatchable in season 5. Thanks for outing yourself as a shit-eater OP.

>>211873222
>>211873298
Evey Japanese story is basically "Being compliant normie good. Don't be radical or different!"

>>211872846 (OP)
the word you meant to use was forgotten. that's all that happened. they were forgotten. the endings severely disappointed so the buildup was for nothing so it had no lasting effects.

>>211873131
the issue with BSG is how the ending made it impossible to ignore they were just making shit up as they went.

>>211873131
The BSG writers admitted they had no plan and that all the buildup and prophecy was a wet fart they didn't actually know how to wrap up.

The Final 5 just creates massive plotholes because them secretly being cylons means they could've defeated humanity multiple times earlier.

>>211873170
>>211873317
GoT's quality dropped significantly in season 2 because D&D stopped simply following the books, but at least it was still decent... until they butchered Robb by making him marry a spunky peasant girl, breaking his vow for no fucking reason

they also forgot armor isn't actually useless, even though this was a major plot point in season 1

pic is also very much related

>show has a comically bad ending
>is still beloved

>>211872846 (OP)
When they realized that AoT was about a small race of people that are forcefully being exterminated choosing to fight back against the world the producers forced the writer to change it because it was too similar to real world circumstances.

Is there any anime/manga with a legitimate great ending? Even the best ones are generally just agreeably bland.

>>211873463
>show has what is considered one of the worst endings of all time
>set up a sequel season nearly 2 decades later and make the ending even worse
I can't fucking wait for Resurrection to make it EVEN WORSE

>>211872923
Walking Dead didn't end though it just branched off into multiple spinoffs series

>>211873463
Holy shit I need a Debra sister, holy shit. Also should I rewatch it bros?

>>211873568
No, Japs don't know how to end a story. It's not just the ending, usually the first part of an anime is awesome and then it all collapses.

>>211873616
In the prequel show she is also always wearing tiny tiny shorts

>>211873616
Yes
Seasons 1-5 are all good (people give 5 and 3 way too much shit)
The seasons after that are still watchable and can be downright hilarious

>>211872846 (OP)
>Attack on Titan's ending has great ratings on both MAL and IMBD
>asspained EH shipper thinks he can rewrite history by spamming his shitty takes

>>211873586
yeah I just hope they double down and keep making worse and worse finales, it's a tradition at this point
>>211873616
>Holy shit I need a Debra sister
me too anon

>>211873434
The fat fuck wrote a story where the white walkers are supposed to be some gay metaphor for climate change, only for it to not matter at all (just like irl) lmao. Chuds won.

>>211873463
Dexter was pure garbage from the start so it makes sense.

>>211873654
Not a huge consumer of anime or manga but this checks out. AoT and Death Note go without saying. The one that sticked the landing the most was FMA:B but I really wasn't awed by the climax. Father, who was a villain lacking in aura and intimidation anyhow, has his big plan undone in like a second and the final fight between him and Eric is so visually bland in that courtyard during daytime.

>>211873334
This was the plot of Breaking Bad

>>211873660
>MAL and IMDB
>relevant for anime ratings
Might as well use the Netflix ratings at this point, you retarded cocksucker.

>>211873568
Neon Genesis Evangelion. Watch episodes 1-24 of the original series, skip 25-26, and go straight to the End of Evangelion movie. GOAT ending. Yes, this is the only way to watch the series. Thank me later.

>>211873660
There's this annoying soi faggot called Uniquenameosaurus. Now, this guy is hard to watch. His voice and faggoty demeanor, him doing the voices for his dialogue, etc. He is a cringe bitch but I will grant him that his AoT was pretty good excluding how convoluted some of the dynamics can be and Mikasa becoming a fucking eastern Asian-style dragon at the end.

>>211873222
Perhaps. I don't follow japs much, but I remember people saying the ending was very well received in Japan.

>>211872846 (OP)
Memes aside, what would have been a good ending to aot
>eren destroys the world
That would only work if the last shot of the show was the walls coming down and the start of the rumbling. Anything after that wouldn’t be good storytelling

>>211873660
the same kind of normies who were only into AoT bcos of beyblade Levi and Eren Mikasa shipping, are the kind of people who will gobble anything you throw at them, so of course they liked this shit.

>>211873712
FMA had a decent ending, but the entire second half of the anime was filler trash and meaningless battles. Just like all well regarded anime, it just had a few kino episodes at the start, that's all

>>211873586
I'm solely watching it just to see how it gets work. I'm actively excited. They should just go all in on retardation.

>>211873730
Yeah cause it's a boomer show. We need more realistic shows where shitty characters win, much like real life

>>211873654
What is it with Japs and unnecessary exposition? I have only read one manga, Berserk. So many fucking times when Guts is wrecking enemies, it cuts to panels of the crowd commenting on how fast/strong/ferocious etc is he is and how impossible what he's doing is. Or in AoT when Eren rips Bertholdt from the Colossal form. That's a great moment... until we have Bertoldt's internal exposition about Armin being roasted alive was all a distraction for Eren to rip him out of the nape... NO FUCKING SHIT THAT'S WHAT IS GOING ON. The exposition ruined that moment.

>>211873788
>what would have been a good ending to aot
You can't. The story is too convoluted to tie everything up satisfyingly without leaving any plotholes behind. The author wrote himself into a corner when he made everyone team up against Eren. It could only have ended with Eren dying (which was what we got) which doesn't logically make sense because of his character motives and power level, or it could end with everyone else dying which is a no-no in shonen. In typical Japanese fashion, he took a great story and ruined it in the end because of muh power of friendship and allies,

>>211873875
I refer back to this: >>211873756. His rewrite is far from perfect but a lot better than what we got.

>>211873788
It would have made more sense since it would have meant every last person is an Eldian, this any new wars would not be genocidal.

Similarly Zeke's euthanasia plan would have made sense.

What Eren did was a nothingburger and the worst of both worlds

>>211873873
>bad guy shows up
>cuts to character going "ueh?"
>another character "eh?"
>another character "nani???"
>another character "uaaahhhhh!!!"
seriously how do people watch this shit

>>211873568
For a relatively recent example, the entire finale of Heike Monogatari is a genuine piece of art. Using the Heike story and its theme of transience and impermanence and the personal experience of surviving the KyoAni arson attack produced something truly unique.

>>211872846 (OP)
>>Both memoryholed due to how outrageously bad the endings were
The rest of attack on titan was not much worse than the ending.

>>211873568
>Is there any anime/manga with a legitimate great ending?
Many of the classic ones have great endings, think Cowboh Bebop, Evangelion, Utena, Gurren Lagan. The problem is that a lot of mangas overextended themselves, so for example Dragon Ball has a great ending if you stop at the Piccolo or Frieza arcs, but the actual ending is not great.

>>211873928
Lol also characters doing those little gasp things during conversations when they notice something. Is that a Jap thing? Like the way white people have very specific racial expressions or west Africans kiss their teeth or Indians bobbing their heads.

Manga readers knew that SnK was turning into total shit ever since the basement reveal.

>>211873737
What ultra niche anime rating site do you use my boy?

>>211873463
>>211873586
Naruto and Boruto.

>>211873984
Marley is simply lame and gay as a faction

>>211873568
Haibane Renmei

Obligatory

>>211873756
He is an interesting YouTuber I might check it out.
>4 hour video
Nope.

>>211873873
It's the way their brains and culture work I guess, not just anime. You see it in games as well, Japanese games have one character do the exposition and then the rest of the party goes in turn repeating what was said or agreeing to it with something like "let's do it".

Then the next scene is some character repeating what was said before. In games like Persona 5, you then get a text conversation which is also a repeat of the conversation and things you've heard a million times.

Even reality tv there, has a lot of visuals that show the emotions the audience is meant to feel, and the hosts basically end up saying how the news or whatever should be received.

It's like the Japanese make all their media for 5 year old or amnesiacs.

That and their obsession with anime shit like power levels, royal lineages, small but overpowered characters, constant comic relief and endless shouting, prevents any anime from achieving kino status

(And yes I deliberately repeated a lot of stuff on this post to demonstrate how Japanese get their point across)

>>211873690
Posts like this are why 4chan is worthwhile

>>211873082
>>211873593
is the walking dead worth getting back into/getting into the spinoffs?

stopped after season 7

>>211874012
I don't use any anime rating site. Just fucking watch whatever you want and form your own opinion. If you can't discern if something is potentially good or not based on the people involved alone then of course you need some normalfag bullshit to tell you what to be "hyped" for.

>>211873791
Bayblade was kino thoughtbeit.

>>211873982
Kek, they don't do this irl, but when I went there and talked to people, they wouldn't shut up trying to explain a basic thing like "go left" or "it costs this much". They're really bad with non verbal indicators of communication. Expressions, body language and so on. They just can't comprehend it

>>211873873
Because these works are intended for teenagers.

>>211874073
>Incredible! He took down the whole manga and anime medium down in a single post!
>Impossible!

>>211873875
>he wrote himself into a corner
So at what point did this happen? The basement reveal? Maybe the story could have had a better ending if the basement reveal was just something along the lines of:
>grisha made the titans by doing some weird experiments
The whole marley thing blew my mind when I first read it but the longer I think about it, the more it ruins the flow of the story

>>211874143
Are the Chinese like this too?

>>211874125
Well it's useful when a movie has like a 20% on rotten tomatoes.

>>211873170
The last episode of los sopranos is good, but the last season is bad. It's a strange case.

>>211874197
I feel like the scale of the story after the basement reveal got way too fucking big, you could have basically had a single other city state like Paradis out there seething over the Eldians and wanting them gone. Like is Paradise is one million, the other city state out there that is the rest of humanity is 30 million (so like what is the present Tokyo metro area).

>>211874197
NTA but the original plan was for the manga to be shorter and end in a more nihilistic fashion. Isayama compared it with the movie The Mist. I assume it ended shortly after the basement reveal with both Paradis and the rest of the world being destroyed.

>>211872846 (OP)
I disliked both from the start, because those shows are complete trash

>>211874234
Was there ever a case for you were you were genuinely surprised that a movie had an extremely low score like that? Like "woah no way, this no name bulgarian faggot garbage movie is actually shit??".

>>211872846 (OP)
afag on titan was never good

>>211872846 (OP)
>GoT has Arya steal Jon's entire plotline
>AoT has Eren look at the reader and say "Mikasa was the chosen one all along"

>>211873434
agree on the season 2 dropm everyone I know seems to still like it but seasonm 2 was so bad for a bookfag like myself I could barely stomach it. I will say though that Robb was also an idiot in the books though so making it some girl power character is kinda irrelevant

>>211874180
>He possesses "THAT" power? Could he really be the true heir...?!

>>211874324
>>GoT has Arya steal Jon's entire plotline
I think GoT has been a shoddy adaption since 2012 but with this, they could have softened the blow immeasureably if Jon at least got close enough to duel the NK, and NK actually has a moment of panic when he realises he's outclassed and this man will kill him if it goes on any longer, an actual crack in his smug/imperious facade, and that's when he sticks the hordes of undead on Jon to run away like a bitch and try and murder the creep incel in the wheelchair.

>>211873690
>>211874075
>Embarrassing samefag pulled out his phone to congratulate himself
Pathetic

>>211874180
*10 seconds of anguished look and gasping
E-E-Ergh0-hh-how can it BE??? He shouldn't be this strong? He doesn't have the royal blood! D-Did he really steal Sneed's Orb? But IT CAN"T BE! IT CAN"T! Doesn't matter....I have to stop him. I have to....Now then....
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH FIGHT ME!!!!

>>211874370
>NO IT'S NOT POSSIBLE THE TRUE HEIR TO TRUTHPOSTING WAS LOST LONG AGO! ....Ahuh!? Unless...

>normalfags finding out about anime tropes in shows aimed at kids and teens in 2025

>>211872846 (OP)
Never saw Attack on Titan, what's so bad about the ending?

>>211873463
Rita is pure sex

>>211873660
A minority of angry shippers doesn't make the plot not retarded with Eren having the power to control all titans even before he gained powers and only using said power to kill his mother or making Armin a bumbling, indecisive retard for the entire timeskip arc.

>>211874073
Golden Sun was notorious for this

>>211874302
Ace Ventura kickstarted Jim Carey's career but it has some pretty bad scores. Comedy in general is more subjective tho.

>>211874180
>>211874370
>>211874401
>>211874404
My sides

>>211874423
Got rewritten at least twice by the author due to the series' unexpected humongous popularity and it shows.

>>211873131
>The show would've been much better if it was just cylon vs. humans looking for a place to live (not Earth), no prophecies or religion involved.
Holy reddit. It would be unremarkable spaceslop if they did this.

>>211872846 (OP)
GoT spin-off is doing well.

>>211874373
The way they handled Night King was retarded in general

>>211874467
Kek where is this for? Any other material trashing Jap media?

>>211874298
>>211874197
I figured the story was going the direction of “the village”. And it was actually set in our current day world after ww2 in some german reservation, that’s why everybody has german names

>>211874423
Main character gets cucked to death.

>>211874143
>They're really bad with non verbal indicators of communication.
That's the best way to sum it up. It's really fucking annoying when you witness it in person.

>>211874423
Main character becomes main villain after a time skip and commits a genocide that basically accomplishes nothing, cause he and his people were stuck between a rock and hard place - either die out as a race or genocide the rest of the world. The writer cucked the fuck out by having Eren only kill 80% as part of some ebin plan he has to make his friends and people look like heroes by stopping him but it amounts to nothing because their people/home still get eradicated a few generations later and common fucking sense dictates that that 20% remainer (so 200 mil people vs. 1 million) are going to get revenge someday. Also the action becomes like the Avengers and he inserts a romance between Eren and this girl that is nonsensical cause they had never been a romantic item prior so it's totally incongruent with the story when that occurrs. Lots of smaller stuff pissed people off too - it was death by a thousand cuts before a headshot

>>211874423
Story that used to be about war and racism ends with main character literally crying about how much he doesn't want some girl to find another man.

>>211874431
The implication is that Eren manipulated all events in his life to reach at this specific point. It's like Dr. Manhattan if he actually gave a fuck.

>>211874073
in JRPGs like Persona this is because the sad salarymen that play them in Japan can only play for maybe 30 minutes a day, so the game needs inbuilt recaps

>>211874210
Not that bad, but yeah, they also have some weird autistic quirks where things need to be spelled out for them, instead of implies. For some weird reason the Koreans aren't so much like that.

>>211874481
Do you think there might be a difference in the reception of a comedy movie in 1994 and an anime in 2025?

>>211874524
Plato's allegory of the cave is a pretty common device for twists like that. Pretty sure there are other examples.

>>211874180
>>211874370
USO! BAKANA!

>>211874524
>that’s why everybody has german names
Is this your first time with Jap media? If they don't use nip names, they use German names. They are huge on german names and aesthetics.

>>211874423
Every single character does a complete 180 to fit the retarded plot during the last 15% of the story.

>>211874613
Not at a deeper level. It always depends on context and structure.

>>211874373
All according to keikaku

>>211874611
>For some weird reason the Koreans aren't so much like that.
I would add the SEAmonkeys into that mix too based on The Raid movies but that was directed by a Welshman lol

>>211874700
Yeah, remember all those movie rating websites used by normal people in 1994?

>>211874556
>Story that used to be about war and racism ends with main character literally crying about how much he doesn't want some girl to find another man.
That makes sense actually.

>>211874423
Imagine Gladiator but Maximus tries to overthrow Commodus, but is stopped by the other slaves who behead him and then Juba kisses his beheaded head full-on in the lips.

>>211874753
Can't say I ever really gave a shit about Mikasa as a character but she did look very hot with the short hair in s4 animation

>>211874467
Worst webcomic ever. Don't post this shit here

>>211874567
There's some bullshit where Eren wasn't free because Ymir needed to specifically see Mikasa kiss Eren's severed head to move on, but it's extremely contrived and betrays everything established in the Paths chapters where Eren "frees" Ymir (except Mikasa actually freed her in the final chapter lol lmao)

But even outside of that the way the characters react to Eren is fucking retarded. Pic related.

>>211874735
Reviews existed back in the 90s kiddo.

>>211874539
>Lots of smaller stuff pissed people off too
For me it's:
>Ymir basically tells Zeke to go fuck himself by siding with Eren cause the power of royal blood was only cause of her slave mindset
>but killing Zeke is still the lynchpin to the plan to stop the genocide

>>211873659
I think 7 is extremely underrated, it's easily my third favorite after seasons 1 and 2

>both have retardedly scaled walls

>>211874829
so funny that of all the things they cut in the anime this was the big one

>>211874829
The manga handled it poorly because they had to cram everything in 40 pages. The anime fleshed it out and changed the order of events so the reactions were more sensible.

>>211874874
>the colossals all did SS+GOMAD

>>211874889
Writer also shot himself in the foot by teasing the final panel years prior and when he changed the ending for whatever reason he had to insert that panel into being baby Eren and Grisha, which is kek worthy
>You are free
Lol, no absolutely isn't free in literal terms and if he meant it in the sense that he's free cause he won't raise him in the same way he raised Zeke, that's simply Grisha sucking himself off

>>211874853
For me the first big sign everything was turning into garbage was when Levi got himself killed (basically) by being a retard for no reason. Like yep the we made him too strong and popular better extract him from the story.

>>211872846 (OP)
>AoT ending bad
This is only a commonly seen opinion on 4chan. In all other spaces a lot of people rank AoT as a top 10 anime.

>>211872846 (OP)
>AOT had a bad ending
>MHA had a bad ending
>Promised Neverland had a bad ending
>Demon Slayer had a bad ending
>JJK had a bad ending
When will you learn? Every single time you guys hype up these mediocre anime as “revolutionary” it ends up being a disaster. When Frieren inevitably ends badly, Usogui will always continue existing as the perfectly concluded 11/10 series while the rest of you seethe over how you fell for the hype once again.

>>211874829
Juat change Einstein for Mechanem Begin.

>>211874975
What panel is this from?

>>211872846 (OP)
TV shows are like gymnastics. You can do the greatest shit in the world but if you fuck up the end you might as well have stayed home.

>>211874949
People clearly misunderstood the final panel thing.

>>211875008
Go on?

>>211874975
>Demon Slayer had a bad ending
I thought the ending was fine, or at the very least, inoffensive.

Code Geass and Madoka had good endings until years-later-sequels needed to be made to print more money, but you could say the same fucking thing about Star Wars.

>>211873170
>sopranos had a bad ending
From now on, can you wear a hat that says "ignore literally everything I say"

>>211874975
99% of mangaka have no real overarching plan and are just making shit up. I get the feeling Miura actually did have something in mind originally but he changed so much of a person he started warping the series away from grimdarkness. Now we will never really know.

>>211872846 (OP)
Peak of its time? That game of thrones garbage is the reason why they cancelled Rome. Fuck you.

>>211873334
There's a name for this kind of story. The commentary for my yojimbo mentions it. He says 90% of Japanese movies (this was made 20+ years ago) follow the pattern that a young guy wants to shape things up and do things in a new way, but eventually learns that doing things the old way is best.

>>211875042
From what I can remember it wasn't meant to be the final panel but something that shows up in the final chapter.

>>211875070
>Miura
QRD on Miura the man? Only thing I actually know about BTS is that he ended up regretting the Idea of Evil reveal being so early on. Makes some sense, for the Godhand to be built up the ebil arch villains only to reveal they are instruments of something brought alive by what exists in the consciousness of all humans

>>211875082
Lol he's not wrong anon, GoT was considered peak fiction by normies at its height before s7-s8. It's no comment on GoT being 10/10 in reality or better than Rome or that HBO didn't fuck up massively by axing it

>>211875070
>99% of mangaka have no real overarching plan

That's just a consequence of the medium. You basically spend several months writing your first arc before presenting it so you can get picked up and avoid the axe of the magazine you're being published in. Then you just have to keep the fucking goose chase going for years and years without a certain timeframe of when to end it. You can't end the story when you want to, you have to end it when the publisher demands it end, which could be whenever.

Unironically read Bakuman, where the author of Death Note rants about the manga industry at length and explains why he hates the ending of his own manga.

>>211872846 (OP)
retroactively GOT was not that good, it was just carried by the story
acting, sets, costumes even the casting were mostly of bad taste

If you think the AoT ending is universally hated you live in a bubble. On MAL, the most popular anime rating site in the Western world, AoT final episodes are ranked as 27th best anime ever made.

>>211875061
>Code Gayass
>Mehuca
Both go full retard at the end but people turn off their brains because of hype moments and muh feels.

>>211875082
Show me where I can buy HBO Rome Oreos and I'll concede that the entire population wasn't fellating Game of Thrones post-Season 6. Only bookfags thought post-Season 5 was bad until about 2020 when showfags were taught to hate the show beyond just Season 8.

>>211873334
You can really see it with Death Note and Dexter. In Death Note they protagonist goes from just a normal moral smart person that wants to kill bad guys to a person with a god complex who wants to be worshiped in like 5 episodes, in a cheap attempt to show us that he turned evil and we shouldn't like him. Meanwhile in Dexter, the protagonist who kills bad people cause of his genetic disposition to murder and psychopathy, gets crazy luck due to plot armor and never has to kill innocents cause they want us to root for the guy that actually brings change to the world.

>>211875227
code gay ended pretty ok though, it was just the first half of the second season being unredeemable trash and most of the second half also being pretty bad that killed it.

>>211875227
R2 is a clusterfuck that miraculously sticks the landing.
I don't see what issue you'd have with Meguca when it's the logical conclusion of what should've happened at the end of Attack on Titan given that Eren had the fucking power to control the titan that ate his mom before he even got titan powers.

>>211873170
To this day I tell people watching GOT for the first time to stop watching after the 4th season. Everything after the 4th season devolves into fanfic tier.

>>211875217
>The Final Season - The Final Episodes

>>211875232
I'd say most bookfags began shitting on it post-season 4, with some bookfags hating on it since s1/s2. I used to read the ASoIaF forums a decade ago and this Serbian guy called Miodrag Zarkovic was a passionate hater of the show and glazer of the books

>>211873463
You can watch just the first two seasons of Dexter and just pretends it ends after S2. S2 has a perfectly acceptable ending to the show.

>>211874423
The author did a horrible job with a “cycle never ends” ending. Ideally, he should’ve
>Had Eren succeed with the rumbling
>Give him an interaction with Ymir similar to Dr. Manhattan and Ozymandias
>Timeskip to one of the family members of Paradisians he trampled over killing Eren’s family
>End it with Eren being alone and dying on a bench
>Maybe as he hears tensions between Paradis factions are heating up involving WMDs
It’s not a happy ending, but what we got in canon wasn’t better either since the lesson most retards can take away the lesson of “hm maybe we should’ve killed the outside world so this wouldn’t have happened” instead of “maybe don’t let a jingoistic faction take charge of a country everybody already hates to begin with.”

>>211875339
>post-season 4
Err, yeah. My bad, that was what I actually meant to say.

>>211875281
>ancient aliens that mine energy from the emotions of teenage girls
>time travel retard who cannot stop making things worse and worse
The actual final episode is not bad but the final plot twists are insanely retarded.

>>211874832
Not by normal people using their phones, kiddo.

>>211875082
Rome was a joint project between hbo and bbc and was canceled because bbc pulled out, and bbc pulled out because the writers were taking events associated with the Bible/jesus and scattering them around to various characters who were, quite explicitly, not Jesus

>>211875351
>lesson of “hm maybe we should’ve killed the outside world so this wouldn’t have happened”
But it was mentioned that conflict would begin on the island anyway as they would fight amongst themselves. Kiyomi says it to Floch and Floch agreed, even that fucker knew a full rumbling would not stop conflict.

>>211874975
>>AOT had a bad ending
>>MHA had a bad ending
>>Promised Neverland had a bad ending
>>Demon Slayer had a bad ending
>>JJK had a bad ending
every single one of those had great endings. especially aot.

>>211875446
In a more civilized age you would send your shitposts and fan reviews by mail.

>>211875469
>the writers were taking events associated with the Bible/jesus and scattering them around to various characters who were, quite explicitly, not Jesus
That sounds absolutely retarded.

Bad endings are the result of the main writer not deciding ahead of time to have a logical endpoint for their story and also along the way trying to find ways to trick and surprise the audience. Its why in Media so many stories suck now. The writers are too busy trying to trick the audience with flashing bullshit and bells and whistles rather than telling a good story.

naruto's ending is still godtier.

>>211875504
>I'm a cool manlet contrarian, look at this tumblr picture

>>211875860
>>I'm a cool manlet contrarian
please. "it fell off" is a pretentious weeb meme.

>>211875691
it was so utterly generic I can't even remember what happened

>>211875591
>Bad endings are the result of the main writer not deciding ahead of time to have a logical endpoint for their story
I feel that's most of it, but it's so hard to avoid in television since writers usually can't be sure how many seasons they're going to get so they make shit up as they go from season to season. Plus even if a show's creator has a good ending in mind, if the studio is making bank they'll just fire them so they can stretch the show out and zombify it with the hack writers they bring in as replacements.

>>211872846 (OP)
>tr/a/nime fags still seething over AOT's kino ending
lmao

>>211874655
>watched season 1 when it came out
>hated the characters but the mystery was kinda cool
>when season 2 finally dropped I already forgot wtf was going on and dropped it after the first episode
>ffwd 2021 or something
>suddenly heard normies sperg about “the best anime ever”
>saw the intro of season 4 with all the army stuff
>figured the story would go into the direction of some sort of reservation in the heart of europe for some reason, maybe punishing nazis for ww2 or something
>actually was kinda let down after speedwatching, that it didn’t took place on our earth after all

>>211874625
Wasn’t there some film with nigger slaves? I think I saw that on a plane half a sleep but maybe im mixing stuff up

>>211877650
I don't know why execs would do this. There's far more money to be made in the long run from licensing and royalties rather than just selling a bunch of seasons in the short term. I think of shows like That 70s Show, Friends, Breaking Bad and even the Office that get rerun so much and have become such cultural centerpoints the studios can just license them out indefinitely and make money. I feel as if viewers can forgive a lukewarm ending but they cannot forgive a bad one because it makes the time investment that much worse. Nobody would remember Breaking Bad if it wasn't tightly written and had a illogical endpoint.

>>211873586
I think a lot of Dexter fans are excited for the same reason. We've all given up on ever getting an ending that's actually good. So now we watch with awe to see the next clusterfuck

>>211874975
How will people react to the ending of one piece? It can only end in disaster

>>211874423
Nothing it's kino.
You have to remember that the sort of retards that complain about anime on this site are either trannies or socially stunted manchildren. The ending revealed that the main character wasn't a giga-based ultrachad mastermind thinking 12 steps ahead of everyone else. So naturally this meant that he was weak and pathetic and that his character was ruined.

>>211877844
If any long running series can somehow have a kino ending in a bizzare way I think One Piece could pull it off. The show has kind of embraced its own craziness.

>>211877844
It has so thoroughly filtered anyone with standards out of its audience that no matter what ending it has they will lap it up. AOT and GOT are much shorter and so most people saw them through till the end even if they had misgivings with the later parts of the shows

>>211873082
The comic did in 2019. The walkers decompose away and society starts rebuilding, the only few infected left are being used in a circus.

>>211877957
This. OP is stockholm syndrome the show

How about genuinely solid endings?

>>211875217
Have you ever met a person that reviews anime? Enough said.

>>211873842
Man the show wasn't even half as good until the second half, what kind of drugs are you on? Briggs onward is honestly perfect.

>>211877905
Yes i do love me a story were the protagonists does a bunch of shit that amount to nothing and you get a dark ending mixed with a happy ending.

>>211873873
Imagine having these sperglord thoughts instead of having fun, exposition drives the point home, exposition is salt on your French fries, get absolutely filtered and go back to your Western trannigger porn.

>>211878367

>>211875591
Fringe had half a season to cram what was supposed to be two seasons worth of story into the ending

The final season was supposed to be Walter with all his memories, not being a silly funny guy, but being a huge ruthless asshole like he was before the labotomy

>>211878367

>>211878860
Everyone's actions amount to nothing if given enough time. We're insignificant in relation to the cosmos

>>211874180

>>211872846 (OP)
I remember people comparing them back in 2013 kek, it turned out to be true in the end.

>>211873753
Kys evatranny

>>211874103
If you liked the characters and setting enough I'd say it's worth it. Just watch TWD and The Ones Who Live spin off thpugh (it's 6 episodes long and works as an epilogue sort of) everything else is irrelevant bloat

>>211877826
many studio execs are famously short sighted, it takes a lot of fighting/tricking them to produce quality content

>>211872846 (OP)
Go back to /a/

>>211875269
Dexter dies though (in the book)

>>211874274
Exact same thing happened with MLP