Why did it flop? Also why couldnโt I be Augustus (pin unrel)?
It did not flop, it was a success, but not enough to offset the huge budget, so HBO decided to end it at two seasons instead of the planned five.
>>211887416 (OP)Flopped because hbo went all in on game of thrones
>and that was a good bet on HBOโs part
>>211887459There is lots of nudity in the second season and they had already cancelled it before it was finished, that's why they had to rapidly wrap up the show across the second half of the second season.
>>211887416 (OP)it's really quite badly written. Cirian Hinds is the only character who doesn't feel like a trashy lowbrow caricature.
>>211887572>Flopped because hbo went all in....the show that debuted six years after Rome was cancelled?
>>211887416 (OP)Imagine fucking her in an orgy
>>211887553It was actually the BBC who pulled out. HBO and BBC had a deal to co-produce with HBO providing 75% of the budget and BBC providing 25%. However, after season 1, the BBC decided they no longer wanted to invest beyond season 2 so HBO pulled the plug.
>>211887659Right, in any case, it was a money thing, the show itself did well, but it was the most expensive show on TV at the time.
>>211887581>it's really quite badly writtenNo it isn't. The dialogue is amazing and they use actual Roman phrases and words throughout it. It's in English but the dialogue has a really natural earthy quality to it that never feels anachronistic.
>>211887459You really think Mike is going to let you look at his daughter in law naked?
>>211887416 (OP)Because people donโt want a show about Rome they want gladiator or Jesus slop
>>211887581>trashy lowbrow caricature.Thats what the midwife said when she pulled you out of your mother. The show was great.
>>211887416 (OP)I think it was always destined to flop. It's literally proto-game of thrones. Every trope GOT became known for; sex, violence, politicking, betrayal, etc, was utilised in Rome first. It feels like HBO was testing the waters before making what they actually wanted to make.
>>211888019I don't think this is an accurate summation at all.
>>211887762Fuck that, what I really want is someone to revive Terry Jones from the grave and let him run a show that's just a really simple slice of life story set in rome where it just follows some lower middle class equivalent roman guy and his family where you only see gladiator games when he goes to one, and you watch it from the cheap seats.
>>211888019Rome wasn't proto anything. The first historical sex, violence, politics and backstabs show was Deadwood.
>>211887416 (OP)>>211887572>>211887581>>211887762>>211888019You ever think inventing stuff in your head to be mad about might be a little crazy?
>The series was launched in the United States on 25 August 2005, at Wadsworth Theatre in Los Angeles. HBO broadcast the series pilot "The Stolen Eagle" four days later. According to the Nielsen ratings system, the pilot broadcast was seen by 3.8 million viewers and achieved a 9.1 household rating for Sunday primetime. HBO re-aired the pilot 11 times in the week following 28 August 2005 premiere, garnering a total viewership of 8.9 million for all 11 airings. After the broadcast of only three first-season episodes, HBO announced plans to produce a second season of Rome in 2006, for release in March 2007. HBO aired each episode multiple times a week, and by the end of the first season, the total weekly audience for all airings exceeded seven million viewers
Seems like it did really well.
The bit about the cancellation
>HBO chairman Chris Albrecht announced in a July 2006 news conference that season two of Rome would be its last, citing the fact that the series (called "notoriously expensive" by Broadcasting & Cable) had been developed under a two-year contract with the BBC that would have been difficult for the BBC to extend due to the series' cost.
So blame the BBC for not having the cash in 2006.
>>211888235As for what got squished down, from the showrunner
>I discovered halfway through writing the second season the show was going to end. The second was going to end with the death of Brutus. Third and fourth season would be set in Egypt. Fifth was going to be the rise of the Messiah in Palestine. But because we got the heads-up that the second season would be it, I telescoped the third and fourth season into the second one, which accounts for the blazing speed we go through history near the end. There's certainly more than enough history to go around.
>>211887416 (OP)She's still hot now, aged very well.
Because Game of Thrones just HAD to be made.
>>211887659plus there was a massive fire that destroyed the set
>>211888504What has Game of Thrones got to do with anything? Rome was cancelled in 2006 during the production of Season 2 due to costs to BBC who co-funded the show with HBO
Game of Thrones had a pilot ordered in 2010, four years after the cancellation, and was ordered to series and debuted in 2011, five years after the cancellation.
>>211888831>Rome was cancelled in 2006 during the production of Season 2 due to costs to BBC who co-funded the show with HBOit's worth pointing out too that there is a different "international" cut for the BBC, they cut out all the preamble explaining everything at the beginning of the first episode, which supposedly ruined the flow of the premiere, all because they thought the average englishman already knows the background of Caesar's assassination
>>211888504There was Boardwalk Empire in between Rome and Game of Thrones. More like Sopranos during abolition age but it was still a period piece show about sex and violence.
>>211888758that was just what the hbo jews did to recoup some costs via insurance claims. many such cases
>>211887416 (OP)>flopit's one of the highest regarded shows ever which kickstarted a whole new era of tv
I'm so sad I'll never have Eirene gf
>>211887416 (OP)She's beautiful obviously, but this is one of the rare examples of a hot woman getting even better looking with age. She looks better in Banshees of Inisherin, imo. Any of you faggots agree?
>>211889741Quite the elaborate headcanon you've crafted. Better watch out, you're on their watchlist now
Cleo
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Best screen version of Cleopatra to date.
>>211893811she was one of the best parts of the show
This show had a LOT of sexy women.
>>211896716>60 armed Senators attack him>Stabbed only 23 times>Only one stab wound was actually fatal, the other 22 contributed to death by blood lossWhat an absolutely shit tier assassination job. A whole crowd and an unarmed victim and they only just managed to kill him by sheer attrition.
>>211888758"Jewish lightning" my dad used to call it.
>>211887593Yes. Pilot was greenlit in 2006, filmed and pushed to executives in 2009, then needed major reworks before the full season was ordered and filmed in 2010 for a 2011 premiere
>>211887459that's a good thing though
all nude scenes are pointless
real cinema has no nudity
>>211900155Not true. More that people back then didn't have the dumb hangups you do about nudity. No one needs to be so shameful and childish about nudity. It's just a human body and it's fine to see. Better back then since it wasn't a bloated sack of rolled sausage like people are now.
And what of good Solonius?