Thread 212011159

How much money does it need to make for you to admit that Snyder's Superman isn't popular outside of New Delhi?
$125m opening domestic?
$400m domestic total?
$800m worldwide?

>>212011159 (OP)
it needs to match mos at the very least (adjusted for inflation) 800 million is a bare minimum

below 300 million: major flop
300-600 million: flop
600-800 million: not a flop, not a hit
800-1200 million: a hit
above 1.2 billion: major hit

>>212011159 (OP)
fucking indians and trannies are the only ones who give a fuck about this m she u crap what are you even saying?

>>212011159 (OP)
1 billion

>>212011159 (OP)
>$125m opening domestic
are you implying this is huge for a superman movie?

>>212011159 (OP)
They are going to suicide Gunn and his GF after this flops

>>212011588
In 2025? Yes

Lol it will flop after reviews come out. The opening 2 weeks ago was 165 million now its 125. It will drop again a week before to 75-90 million. While Snyder was not that popular Gunn doesn't even have a fanbase.

>anyone who isn't excited for this movie is an Indian
Weird marketing tactic

>>212011159 (OP)
They’re stupid jeets. If it’s a success they’ll just go full cope “just appealed to the Marvel losers. People just too stupid to understand pure genius of the Snyderverse”

>>212013480
Screencapped for the upteenth time this board has been wrong about a movie.

No Superdog cape, no watch.

>>212013948
He had a cape in the teaser, Muhammad.

>>212013994
I don't watch capeshit teasers. I went by the OP pic.

>>212011485
>the most recognizable superhero IP probably on the planet next to Spiderman
>only trannies like it
your brain is rotted.

>>212014019
>I have an opinion about a trailer I didn't even watch
Ok?

>>212014053
Meanwhile OP is saying the only people uninterested in the 3rd Superman reboot are Indians

>>212014182
That might be unironically true though lol that entire continent is obsessed with Snyder it's bizarre

>>212014297
And trannies love James Gunn, I don't see the issue

>>212014297
it’s not that bizarre. Watch any Bollywood hit and you see Indians love cool slow-mo visual action which is all Snyder really does

>>212014331
How many times do you, unprompted, post about trannies summerfag?

GOOD MORNING MARVEL SAARS!!

>>212011261
>not a hit

>>212014361
How many times do you, unprompted, post about indians summerfag?

>shitflick is tracking below MOS opening weekend
>dc autists still reeeing about Snyder anyway
How does it feel to be a vocal minority. Look at how well non Snyder DC flicks did post Aquaman. No one shows up in theaters and most people are tired of capeshit
>muh JEETS
Bro the saars are the only ones looking forward for this

>>212014536
We are talking about them, nobody but YOU is talking about trannies, retard.

>>212013916
My nigga the guy behind analytics from fandango already said it. Deadline who is more accurate than any tabloid said it too. Just embrace and stop coping. You’re defending a kids movie

>>212014537
>Bro the saars are the only ones looking forward for this
This

>>212014603
Uh huh, I'll be here for the cope when it exceeds expectations, and I'm not even going to see it.

>>212011159 (OP)
Above 750M would be great for Gunn, as for the Snyderjeets to shut the fuck up 4ever... >900M ? if this shits crosses 1B you'll see mass suicides in Mumbai.

>>212014603
The guy behind the fandango analytics, Shawn, is predicting like a 135m opening atm. Deadline also reported NRG which said 125-145m if you read past the headline.

>>212014707
They said NGR might be off and so didnthe shawn guy who said it might be frontloaded. My gut says 95 but I don’t think it will have good legs unless it is TDK level and that is not the case

>>212011159 (OP)
It has to gross more than MoS with inflation or break the second weekend drop curse. Both are basically one in the same.

>>212014107
I had an opinion about a picture.
And about your ability to read.
Don't worry, I still won't watch it. Us Muslims hate dogs.

>>212011159 (OP)
I genuinely don't care how much money it makes

I only care if it's a decent Superman because we haven't had one since Returns (which wasn't great either)

>>212014887
Shawn is predicting that it’s going to be more backloaded than most CBM actually. Not sure why and people have been critiquing him for it.

All Deadline was doing was reporting tracking, including the NRG one. They didn’t really come to any conclusion of their own. The lower figure also came from “WB insiders,” who gave an incentive to lowball it so they can scream about how Superman exceeded all expectations they set low to begin with.

>>212015228
Also I should add that those trackings are like a week old at this point and now the movie has like 23 million already in pre-sales which is pretty good. It’s going to have a solid OW but it will live or die on reviews and will have to do what no Superman movie has done in like 40 years which is not kill itself in its 2nd weekend. Jurassic World underperforming looks like it’ll help it.

>>212015369
Superhero fatigue is still strong and only deadpool and wolverine managad to do well based off nostalgia
>23M on presales
Worth shit but source ?

>>212011159 (OP)
Why there are people saying the movie costs about 368 million dollars, while some spic is saying it was more than 500 million dollars

It will probably open smaller than Man of Steel which will cause the Gunnjeets who don't know anything about the box office to panic, then it will outgross MOS because MOS had a huge opening but bad legs

>>212015507
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/31569-the-box-office-buzz-tracking-and-pre-sale-thread/page/1790/

They’re not worth shit; CBM OW are very easy to track with presales because of how fanboy defendant they are. Everyone knew Joker 2, Flash and The Marvels would bomb based on them, same as DP&W being huge. Superman is basically locked for a solid OW at this point and it will live or die based on reviews/WOM.

>>212015728
>Deadpool had a 8M presales figure
>200M+ opening weekend
>theyre reliable bro!
Lmao

>>212015728
fanboy dependent*

>>212015776
9m was Deadpool’s -one day- presale figure. Deadpool and Wolverine had a total presale figure of like 38m.

>>212015728
Considering Gunn has a very solid track record on reviews I think it’ll end up being fine. If I had to guess, it’ll probably do a bit better than The Batman. My parents saw a trailer and thought the dog looked cute so they want to see it, and that’s like the long and the short of it for a lot of people who end up buying a ticket.

>>212015627
Taxes said so, Gunn and Warner claim that it is 250M movie, if you add the advertisement campaign it could be that.

>>212015863
Dont rely too much on immediate reactions they may be not encouraged

>>212015728
Also
>it lost some ground to thunderbolts
>only reliable source says 10M in previews which could mean a 50M haul OW
Lmao

>>212015717
Nah it'll open bigger, domestic opening for MoS was only 116m

>>212016053
That’s in those specific theaters that that one poster is tracking. If you want to get the total pre-sale you have to compile them. Generally keysersoze and the Lannister guy are the most comprehensive posters. Here’s a Leddit thread posting the totals.
https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/s/Vxi56sxFdP

>>212015863
Every woman I know wants to see it because of the dog except for one girl who thinks superheroes are dated and only watched A24/Wes Anderson movies

>>212016244
Now adjust it to inflation

>>212016285
Genuinely curious what the demographics will be for this movie. Most comic book movies are like 60/40 male to female aside from Wonder Woman(and Aquaman). I wonder if the dog and the focus on the romance will even it out more.

Reminder that MoS made more money on DVDs and merch than in the box office.

>>212011159 (OP)
It really doesn't matter how much money it makes. I'm never gonna watch it and Man of Steel was shit.

>>212014887
I know most of you morons are basement dwelling zoomers but the last James Gunn movie nearly hit a fucking billion dollars, most audiences are just fed up with DC grimdark autism and I will bet you this makes close to a bil just because it's fun and a decent time before WW3 comes. People are fucking miserable anon, any film that can be an escape right now is going to make a bil.

Watch and screencap me. You'll be here in six months bending over backwards about it's box office performance.

>>212015149
The picture is from the trailer though, are you retarded? krypto has a cape in both the teaser and the trailer. This is bizarre trolling.

I’ll probably take my nephews to it, I think they’d like it.

>>212011485
Not everyone wants miserable all the time anon, sometimes people want to enjoy a movie instead of the edgiest thing a 13 year old can think of his superheroes doing
>>212013948
He has a cape, lex calls him “the ugly dog with a cape” in the trailer!

>>212017784
the picture is from the promo image I thought. bizarrely it’s like the only place where he doesn’t have the silly lil dog cape

>>212016757
Plus, a lot of women liked Rachel Brosnahan in Marvelous Mrs Maisel, AND there’s a massive height difference between her and Corenswet. That shit is like catnip to romance fans.

>>212017818
>the edgiest thing a 13 year old can think of his superheroes doing
But that's James Gunn's filmography
>WHAT IF HARLEY QUINN SNORTED A BUNCH OF COCAINE AND THEN HAD A KUNGFU SHOOTOUT WHILE SHE HALLUCINATED FLOWERS!?

>>212017869
>silly
a superhero dog is silly, yes. That's the point. Its intentional.

>>212017677
>most audiences are just fed up with DC grimdark autism

>>212017923
>zoomer doesn't like Super
what trash opinions you must have.

>>212017923
>WHAT IF HARLEY QUINN SNORTED A BUNCH OF COCAINE AND THEN HAD A KUNGFU SHOOTOUT WHILE SHE HALLUCINATED FLOWERS!?
Pretty sure that was in the Harley movie not directed by James Gunn

>>212017976
Your picture just proves my point? Anon, general audiences don't know who the fuck Shazam is or Black Adam btw.

If you think a mainline Superman movie is going to underperform...

>>212018047
Those movies were all "fun" and "colorful", and made as a direct response to the Snyder's style.

>>212017942
Im not the same anon and I didn’t say silly as a pejorative. I like Superman doing silly shit and I am only watching it for the dumb superdog and the kaiju

>>212017677
> zoomers but the last James Gunn movie nearly hit a fucking billion dollars,
That was Guardians 3 you retard and Guardians 3 made less money than Guardians 2. Gunn is a hack and had the MCU machine behind him. He has nothing now and the bad reviews will kill Superman's boxoffice. No amount of Gunn coping will stop that.

>>212017983
Super is a movie for cuckholds with a hilarious scene of a little boy prostitute sucking an old rich man's dick. As a funny joke!

>>212018111
The first Shazam movie did pretty well given it had an 80m budget. The best performing DCEU movie was Aquaman of all things which was a colorful adventure movie.

>>212011159 (OP)
I'm just glad to hear that indians are adopting our culture
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I1EOWNsbnLw

>>212014537
> Look at how well non Snyder DC flicks did post Aquaman
Anon every film Snyder released in the DCEU had diminishing returns, are you really surprised that people stopped watching DC movies after they thought every movie was going to be like his?

>>212018210
>which was a colorful adventure movie.
According to the director and star that movie was very Snyder-friendly.

>>212018279
they can say whatever they want. The movie is not like Snyders movies at all. Just compare Aquamans vibrant orange suit in that to his desaturated brown one in JL.

>>212018275
Explain people coming back for Snyder's version of the JL movie that bombed? That movie sold more DVDs and merch than all the recent DC movies, including Gunn's The Suicide Squad. It even sold more DVDs than the recent The Batman, this taking into account that people can watch it by signing Max.

>>212018352
>Just compare Aquamans vibrant orange suit in that to his desaturated brown one in JL.
You mean the vibrant orange suit that Snyder's designed? The only reason he didn't used it in JL was he thought it would be best if that suit debuted in the character's own solo movie.

>>212018391
Tbh any movie with a release like this would do well. It's pretty uncommon for a studio to go "okay we fucked up, here is the original edit before we butchered it for release" and that caused a bunch of curiosity. I bet Solo would had a sales boost if they went "okay we fucked it up here's the original cut" a month later

>>212018445
snyder obviously didn't design it if the costume designer right there is not zack snyder. he probably approves it, since that guy did the costumes for all the DCEU but the entire color palette and tone of Aquaman is noticably different than Snyder's movies.

>>212018111
...and they weren't good. You also have to make a good movie, anon

>>212018560
Michael Wilkinson is Snyder's friend and his designer for the DC stuff.

>>212018153
Calm down redditor. Making over a billion but being slightly less than the billion you made with your last film is not a flop lol

>>212018596
And this one seems like a good movie for you?

>>212011159 (OP)

Funny how an MCU movie called out how Cavill was treated by WB.

>>212018598
yes, and he is not snyder. just because snyder's friend made the suit does not mean that the movie the suit appears in is alike in tone to snyder's movies. Aquaman is noticeably more light hearted and colorful than any of Snyder's movies and lacks the lofty dialogue or religious symbolism. It's clearly a James Wan movie, not a Snyder one.

>>212011159 (OP)
Someone at WB's marketing department really overestimates the Snyder pajeet meme to build its campaign agains previous Superman movies.
It looks weird, because literally every company runs the promo campaign using pajeets, including Gunn's Superman's one.
Superweird.

>>212018559
But you implied that Snyder poisoned the well for all the other movies because audience thought they were all going to be like his movies. His name should be a repellant if your take is accurate,

>>212018666
It doesn't count. Ryan Reynolds is butt-buddies with Zack Snyder, of course he'd defend his gay buddy.

>>212018445
It’s amazing to me how retards will attempt to give Snyder credit for Aquaman when it’s abundantly clear that he had almost nothing to do with it.

>>212018638
I don't know I haven't seen it yet retard.

>>212017923
>what if Batman was dark and angry after robin died and he killed people and branded people in jail but he left the joker alive because he’s cool and he shoot’s guns and rockets from his car and he also got raped in prison and he’s way cooler than Superman and he steals Superman’s girlfriend and they make babies and then Superman dies and Batman likes him now and he names the baby he had with Superman’s girlfriend after Superman!

You really don’t see how that shit sounds like a little kid’s musings? Snyder went to a boarding school and instead of coming back a leader of industry he returned to make Netflix originals

>>212018666
That looks wrong. If Wolverine's claws were out, you wouldn't expect Deadpool to be yeeted back like that, you'd think Deadpool would get stabbed in the chest by said claws.

>>212019386
None of that happened.

>>212019457
The joke is that Calllverine is as strong as Superman, because he played Superman before. He even does the arm thing from the Mission Impossible movie that became a meme.

>>212018173
Are you on meds?

>>212018391
Anon you do know that spike came from a private equity firm defaulted on margin calls, right?

>>212019529
That's literally the plot of BvS...

Why are you mongs always pocket watching as if you were involved in the financing of these movies? You're worse than the hook nosed

>>212020302
No, it isn't.
Batman wasn't imprisoned and he was into Wonder Woman, not Lois Lane.

>>212020314
It only really matters if they’re a fan of the material since it determines if a sequel comes, but besides that it doesn’t matter in the slightest

>>212016781
>Reminder that MoS made more money on DVDs and merch than in the box office.
Moving the goalposts already WB?

>>212014053
Batman is the most recognizable superhero IP after Spiderman and just because something is recognizable doesn't mean it's popular.

So people are just shilling for this to spite Snyder and his fans? It looks as bad as any Marvel phase 4 capeshit.

>>212020955
That's been pretty much the marketing for all the recent DC movies, outside of maybe The Batman and Joker

>>212017677
Guardians did well solely because it was attached to the MCU. His Suicide Squad movie was a massive flop.

>>212021200
His fans, or WB shills, always say that the movie failed because of Covid or being released together with the streaming debut.

>>212021059
Being dark is what differentiates DC from Marvel. I wasn’t the biggest fan of Snyder but if they actually let him prove his vision and build a coherent universe it could have worked out. BvS and MOS were decent flicks with moments of genius.

>>212021200
Imagine believing this. They are genuinely good films, seethe more

>>212020914
Are...are you arguing Superman isn't popular?

>>212021725
1 was good the rest were terrible slop

looool remember when this board fucking idolized Zach Snyder and Indians didn't know how to internet yet so it was 90% white anons from /tv/?
I member.
>/tv/ is one person
It's two people, you faggot Snydercucks and me who made fun of you for it 10 years ago and will still make fun of you now, lol.

>>212021802
You can like things, anon. All three are great. It doesn't make you cool to call things "slop".

>>212017976
I'm glad the Suicide Squad flopped.

Why do people act like it's better than the first one? Both suck, but the second one is so fucking bad.

>>212022028
Not really.

>>212021200
Guardians fucking carried the MCU from the start, fuck you talking about? Phase 2 was ass all through and the only standouts were Guardians and Captain America kisses his canonical granddaughter: the Winter Soldier.

>>212021970
Nah they aren’t and that’s ok

>>212022482
Well the globe doesn't agree with you? I don't know what to tell ya. Do you have the autism where you get mad when other people enjoy things?

Gunn’s style fits Superman. It does not fit Batman. Same way Synder’s style doesn’t fit Superman and should’ve just done a Batman movie form the start. Same goes for Nolan, he had no business having anything to do with Superman. WB never learns. They did this same shit with Burton coming off his Batman success. They had him try and reboot Superman and we all know of infamous Superman Lives

>>212021464
And they conveniently leave out the fact that almost every other capeshit film released that year vastly outperformed it, even ones like Black Widow that was released on streaming.
>>212021725
Guardians would never have been successful if it wasn't part of the MCU. The Suicide Squad was literal garbage; no surprise it failed.
>>212022126
Are you retarded? The Avengers is what carried the MCU and made it what it was. The success of GotG can mostly be attributed to riding on its predecessor's coattails.

>>212022547
What a retarded take, the Guardians movies almost exclusively don't get involved with anything in the MCU until the third phase really with the Thanos shit.

>>212022515
>Gunn’s style fits Superman.
It doesn't. It's ugly from what I have seen so far with clips and trailers.

>>212011649
>sloot
that's a fifteen year old girl you're posting

>>212021721
>it could have worked out
JUST ONE MORE MOVIE DUDE TRUST THE PLAN

>>212022963
Christopher Reeve’s son would have unironically been a better choice

>>212022963
Idiot. If people wanted beautiful flawless cinematography, Superman Returns would’ve been a massive success. visually, the movie is stunning. But it was horribly flawed and boring. People want to have fun watching a Superman movie not be bored to death

>>212011159 (OP)
When the Superman teaser was dropped on Youtube, I was expecting a dislike-bombing. Turns out the haters are mostly pajeets.

>>212024492
I done know what there is to hate if you actually like Superman. Sure, if you only know the character from MOS you won’t like it because he isn’t acting like Homelander

>>212024903
>I done know
hello sar!

>>212022963
How do you people still fall for the fact that trailers don't look like the movies?

>>212021801
He was at one time but he's certainly not as popular as other superheroes like Spiderman, Batman, the Avengers, Wolverine, Deadpool, etc. When was the last time something with Superman as the main character was truly successful?

>>212014420
Why didn't the support The Eternals?

>>212026545
Superman is corny and everyone already knows all about him and his double identity so it's never interesting. The only worse major superhero IP is the fantastic 4

>>212026412
they're used to Snyder movies which probably have the coolest trailers relative to how shit their actual movies are of any movie in existence.

>>212026545
tbf Man of Steel did better than both of Wolverine's solo films until he was teamed up with Deadpool.

>>212022547
everybody thoughts the Guardians movie would bomb, MCU or no. the studio themselves only let it be made because they thought it would bomb and then they could take creative control away from Feige.

>>212021200
TSS was released on streaming the same day as theaters. Why do people ignore this? Its amazing it made any money at all.

>>212027533
That movie had everything going against it. Covid-19, same day streaming, R-rated, and following up one of the shittiest comic movies in recent memory with an extremely similar name. Honestly it was kind of dumb of DC to even let him make it though I guess they couldn't have predicted Covid and hoped good word of mouth would've carried it like Wonder Woman after BvS.

Massive cope. MoS is loved by many while copycat Diaperman already failed before the release.

>>212027809
forgot the pic

>>212027675
Add on WB idiotically stated they were ditching the Snyderverse. This was before Aquaman 2, Shazam 2, and The Flash came out. So basically people weren’t going to invest in movies they know where going to get canceled

>>212011588
>>212011159 (OP)
Adjusted for inflation it needs to make more than $925M to beat MoS which guess what isn't happening

>>212028432
It would be funny if it made 924.9 million

>>212028432
>the adjusted for inflation cope
always funny how snyderjeets ignore this when it comes to comparing MoS to Superman 1978 though

>>212011159 (OP)
If Snyder were popular they wouldn't have cancelled Rebel Moon.

I've always liked Superman Returns

>>212014697
>Above 750M would be great for Gunn, as for the Snyderjeets to shut the fuck up 4ever
Man of Steel's adjusted for inflation box office is $924.69 million, if Gunn is even a cent short of that Snyderjeets will never shut up

>>212013916
snydertards aren't from this board

>>212029082
The funniest, and most probable outcome is it beating Man of Steel's undajusted box office but not the adjusted box office, meaning that both sides have to cope

>>212026785
MoShit was abad movie that very few liked

>>212028432
>>212029423
It did that well? Why does everyone here act like it was a universally despised movie that failed to make back its budget?

>>212022515
Snyder style doesn't fit anything. Maybe Punisher or Texas Chainsaw massacre

OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinematic/comments/1ll5gu0/i_just_wanted_to_say_something_about_this_new/

>>212029644
It had a decently big budget as well but it's the usual thing of WB executives having retardedly high expectations wanting it to do Avengers numbers out of the gate when even Batman wasn't cracking a billion until TDKR (The DK was literally within spitting distance of a billion at it's original release to be fair) however it certainly didn't bomb

Reviews were mixed with a lot of older superman fans having a fit over minor things that were already in the older superman movies
Think a lot of it was just contrarianism at the time

>>212029628
yeah and it still made almost 700m dollars based on Superman's name alone. imagine if it was actually good

>>212029644
It did decently because it had a very good opening weekend. People act like it was a failure because
1. It had mixed/fan critical reception
2. It had poor very poor box office legs, likely due to #1, and fell off a cliff its 2nd weekend. It should've made like 800-900m given its opener, but fell well short of that.

Still, it was successful enough to get a sequel. Contrary to popular belief that WB forced Snyder to make BvS, he always wanted to pit Batman against Superman.

>>212029644
Ironman 3 made a little shy of twice that in the same year

>>212022126
>Guardians fucking carried the MCU from the star
The only reason people watched the first movie is because the marketing promised people they'd learn more about the stones/gems and Thanos would be in it.

>>212022951
Thanos was literally a big part of the first movie. His daughter is one of the main characters.

>>212030974
yup, Guardians is like the ninth movie in the sequence, by that point the MCU was a full on thing that people were paying attention to. Gunnfag delusions man

>>212026742
>>212026412
They said the same about The Flash.

I predict a 500 million dollar start. 100-120 million opening before cataclysmic dropoff. Then the incoming cope about review bombing and the fact Snyder is somehow behind this. Then DC copes about how it was actually a success before shrinking the scope of the DCU even further before fast tracking The Batman Part II

>>212027533
Pretty much ALL WB movies had to go through that. Shouldn't TSS do better because of Gunn name?
>>212027675
They tried to copy Deadpool.

>>212031061
Gunnfags pretend like that didn't happen. They also pretend like Gunn didn't praise the movie even though it was designed solely to abort the DCEU. He also hired the DP for his own movie which has had several terrible shots memed into being cut.

>>212031131
Henry Braham had worked on several of Gunn’s movies in a row now, it makes more sense to say Flash used Gunn’s favorite cinematographer rather than the other way around

Cinematography is also distinct from VFX, and Flash had poor VFX rather than cinematography

>>212031115
It isn't really all that much like Deadpool aside from being an R rated superhero comedy. This has always been Gunn's humor since Slither. Always big on gore, sort of juvenile stuff and "conversational"/bickering humor for lack of a better word. Deadpool is juvenile but also more just a lot of meta references.

>>212027809
Playing opposite day at your age, lmao
Grow up

>>212030051
>Contrary to popular belief that WB forced Snyder to make BvS, he always wanted to pit Batman against Superman.
That's a lie. They were going to focus on a sequel and prequel to MoS.
The sequel got hijacked to become BvS, and the prequel was turned into a Syfy series named Krypton that was further hijacked to replace anything from the movie with comic book shit.

The latter one is hilarious because eventually a black "female writer" from the show called Geoff Johns racist for not accepting a black actor as Superman's grandfather, and Johns defended himself that he just didn't hire the actor because they were looking for someone that looked like Henry Cavill, since the show was supposed to be a prequel. But that's bullshit because he was the one to ruin the prequel movie and show by completely removing any association with the original movie.

>>212027533
>Why do people ignore this?
Because other same day streaming movies made money.
Godzilla X Kong did significantly better than King of the Monsters, and that was months before. Covid wasn't a big deal in summer 2021.

>>212027533
Black Widow also had simultaneous theatrical and streaming releases yet it made almost three times as much
>>212027675
It might have fared better under more favorable circumstances but most of its failure is due to it being an awful movie. Plenty of other films were successful at the box office despite Covid. Perhaps Gunn isn't as great a filmmaker as people claim.

>>212031246
>Cinematography is also distinct from VFX, and Flash had poor VFX rather than cinematography
You mean, exactly like this movie? Have you seen its VFX?

>>212031269
>It isn't really all that much like Deadpool aside from being an R rated superhero comedy.
They literally copied scenes and gags from the Deadpool movies. Like the helicopter killing off all the goody characters in gruesome ways. It was a wannabe Deadpool movie, bro.

>>212031246
the wide lens flying shot selection is definitely a choice and it looks terrible. If anything I am bailing Gunn out pinning it on the DP

>>212031392
look the movie has spotty VFX judging bby the trailers but this is pretty meaningless. you really could've picked a better scene than a single frame you would miss if you blinked even when moving at 0.25x speed that not a single person would ever notice watching the movie

>>212031513
>you really could've picked a better scene than a single frame you would miss
Which one? They are all shit. You picked one then, since you're working very hard to defend this shitty ass looking movie.

>>212018391
snydertards agreeing to create a fake spike.
Nobody normal watched that shit

>>212031340
>That's a lie. They were going to focus on a sequel and prequel to MoS.

Not true. Snyder has said in interviews even years later it was his idea to put in Batman. Krypton was imagined by Goyer and pitched as a show to begin with, it was never going to be the next movie. I'm not even sure Krypton was ever supposed to be in continuity with MoS given that Zod is in it played by a totally different guy.

>>212031559
literally any other scene that doesn't require you slowing it to 0.25x to critique a single frame? how autistic are you. I doubt you even noticed that clipping yourself when watching the trailer and just saw another post on it.

>>212031625
>I'm not even sure Krypton was ever supposed to be in continuity with MoS given that Zod is in it played by a totally different guy.
Geoff Johns butchered the show, that's why so much of the original show was changed.
Originally it was going to be a prequel focusing on Jor-Ell younger years. Russell Crower at the time couldn't shut up about it.

>>212031434
Yeah its definitely a choice but look at this shot alone, the Superman graphics look better than Flash did
https://x.com/dcfilmnews/status/1938243627869962336

Flash as a movie suffered from several things one of them being unable to shoot on location and being stuck in a green screen room, and you have to generate both a CGI background and foreground so it basically becomes a video game

But Superman was filmed all over the world and it shows

>>212018728
>His name should be a repellant if your take is accurate,
It is. You spambots just spent 24/7 clicking on that crap, just lke you always do

>>212031665
Show me one then, because to me they all look equally shitty and poorly animated.

>>212018638
Bottom already look better than what snyder made, but that's not really a feat.

>Not discussing the movie at all just discussing how much money it may or may not make

I hate what this cocksucking faggot website has become. Zoomers are complete npc cancer.

>>212011159 (OP)
Why do jeets like snyderman so much? Just why?

>>212031728
i'm not autistic so I don't save webms of movies I don't like, watch the trailer if you want

>>212021721
>Being dark is what differentiates DC from Marvel
Yeah, DC is the bright one. Halways has been

>>212031811
The trailers i watched looked like shit. C'mon. Back up what you're defending so hard. Earn your rupes.

>>212031679
I can't find anything about Russel Crowe speaking about being on the show. Googling Russel Crowe just brings up an article from 9 years ago when it was greenlit confirming it was always about Superman's grandpa.

https://entertainment.ie/tv/tv-news/a-superman-prequel-tv-series-called-krypton-has-been-ordered-to-pilot-211033/

>>212031850
i'm not defending it you retard I said the VFX looks like shit just that your example was stupid.
>looked like shit
are you ESL? that's what I said. It shouldn't be difficult to find a better example than nitpicking one frame at 0.25x speed.

>>212031877
It wasn't supposed to be a show originally, but a prequel movie about Krypton. It later got turned into a show, and then further fucked with.

>>212029937
>Reviews were mixed with a lot of older superman fans having a fit over minor things that were already in the older superman movies
It was generally reviled lmao.
You never liked superman or dc

>>212031920
>It shouldn't be difficult to find a better example than nitpicking one frame at 0.25x speed.
I said several times i think everything about the movie looks like shit. You're the one defending saying that it is just that webm. You do the work, mister shill.

>>212031958
I can't find any source for it originally being a movie. Even articles going as far back as 2014 are saying Goyer originally wrote it as a show.

>>212031993
>saying that it is just that webm
okay you really are ESL. I said the trailers have much better examples of shit CGI so you're retarded for picking the most insignificant example. do you understand rajeet? even when you're correct if you use a terrible example you look retarded.

>>212029964
Yep, Superman was a valuable IP until the hack drove it into the ground

I was here when Man of Steel came out. The movie was made fun of relentlessly for MONTHS. Why are people pretending its good now?

>>212011159 (OP)
this shit has 50 superheroes in it. By gunntard rules its guaranteed a billion minimum right?

>>212031392
sameshit a snyder movie. snyder movie concealit way better by being black and dark brown

>>212031804
Contrarianism. They were tomsawyered by ironic shitposters

>>212011159 (OP)
Most of the seethe for this is because most anons have homoerotic tendencies toward henry cavil. /tv/ is simply protecting him ardently like a good lover would.

>>212032109
I was also here, and there were as much people praising the movie and saying it was close to Plato's Republic.

>>212032109
Same reason few contrarians rabidly insist that SW prequels and Prometheus are secretly good and liked
Mental illness, low IQ and no real friends

>>212032199
I noticed it too.
Wtf they have with that man that make them defend shit movies?

>>212032222
>>212032109
I remember it being both. You had people mocking Snyder movies a lot, especially BvS with the whole MARTHA shit. You also had the very dedicated diehard defenders of the movie who made intricate explanations about how deep it was and created grids of their favorite shots. It's sort of like the Prequels now on /tv/ where people shit on them and mock them and then a bunch of other people defend them to the death.

It will make The Batman type numbers. 780 million. Gunn moves have long legs and I don’t see how this will be any different especially with no competition it’s second weekend

>>212031298
People hate the new superman. Nothing beats the OG see pic >>212027854 gunn is trying to copy MoS

Even the new superman actor copies Henry’s look it’s so fucking annoying

>>212031990
It was only reviled by comic nerds who were butthurt that Superman didn't wear a diaper or wasn't "muh heckin' wholesome symbol of hope!" Everyone else didn't really feel strongly towards it one way or the other.
>>212032060
Superman hadn't been a valuable IP even before Snyder. Look how terribly Superman Returns did.

>>212031018
Thanos isn't in a single Guardians movie you dumb faggot, he's hardly even mentioned. The Guardians movies are almost completely self contained besides "I remeba", nothing even in the third one has anything to do with the larger MCU.

>>212032535
He's literally in the first movie.

>>212032535
Thanos was in the first movie briefly but it was more of a cameo and Gunn was basically forced to use him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n53zVaij5K0

>>212032372
Revisionist history doesn’t work jest. Man of Steel had a horrific second weekend drop off which meant people hated what they saw and it got terrible word of mouth.

>>212026545
I mean I know you are baiting or underage but Superman has been like, one of the most iconic superheroes literally ever, fucking predates Batman. People have been making media about the IP for what, almost a century?

>>212032590
>and Gunn was basically forced to use him.
Of course, honey.
The movie had Thanos daughter, and the villain was tied to Thanos, and the marketing was all about how we would finally learn more about the gems and Thanos role.

>>212032599
So why its merch and DVDs sold so much?

>>212032270
Man of steel was good but it was 12 years ago and the movies that followed were fucking terrible. Thats why WB went with a reboot.

>>212032550
He's fucking barely in it, is the point. You could watch all three Guardians and never bother with the MCU, unironically.

>>212032716
His daughter is in it bro.

>>212032638
>and the marketing was all about how we would finally learn more about the gems and Thanos role.
no it wasn't, zoom zoom.

>>212032638
He wasn't forced to use Gamora, though he was forced to use Thanos. He wanted to cut him because he thought he made Ronan seem lesser/weak, but eventually compromised by having Ronan kill his servitor or whatever in an act of defiance.
>marketing was all about how we would finally learn more about the gems and Thanos role.
Thanos wasn't included in the marketing for the movie at all. He's not in a single trailer. I don't even think the gems were a thing until GOTG1 introduced them so they wouldn't market that either.

The cosmic cube was retroactively made one of them for convenience.

>>212032743
I don't think you understand "being in a movie" and "the movie's narrative being about her BEING in the movie". I think you have autism.

>>212032775
>I don't even think the gems were a thing until GOTG1 introduced them so they wouldn't market that either.
They were in Captain America, and the Avengers, and so on. Do you watch shit with your ass?

>>212032818
You mean they were in other movies you fucking autistic faggot?

>>212032818
Are you illiterate? I said the cosmic cube was retroactively made one. It wasn't referred to as an infinity stone until after GOTG1, which introduced the concept. Before that it's just called the Tesseract, and was just a general power macguffin.

This glorified fan film won't make 500mil, screencap this shit right now.

>>212032847
Same shit. People knew that Guardians of the Galaxy was the movie to watch for in case they wanted to learn more about Thanos, what Thanos is after, what the stones are for, and so on. Don't lie.

>>212032888
>same shit
No it's not the same shit because why would they market the movie based on a concept that hadn't even been introduced. GOTG1 introduced the Infinity Stones, and Thanos was not included in any of the marketing unless you want to find me a single GOTG1 trailer with Thanos in it.

>>212032888
There's literally nothing in the Guardians movies you don't already know about the Infinity Stones, there's nothing about Infinity War that's involved in either three of those fucking stories. Are you genuinely an autistic person who can't remember marvelshit?

>>212032886
Imagine being wrong about every movie and asking others who are smarter than you to screencap it?

>>212032935
>No it's not the same shit because why would they market the movie based on a concept that hadn't even been introduced.
The Tessaract was in all the movies, but very little was known about it. So when Guardians came they marketed the movie mcguffin as being related to it. So everyone would go and watch it. Stop being obtuse.
>>212032940
The marketing made it seem otherwise.

You two faggots can try and lie all you want to make it seem as if Guardians was never dependent on the branding or stupid cameos and such, but it was. Every MCU movie is.

>>212033032
Post a single trailer you memeing faggot, a single teaser from ANY Guardians film..

>>212032686
Agree, except MoS being any good. It was better than the others but still terrible

>>212033032
>o when Guardians came they marketed the movie mcguffin as being related to it.
show me a single piece of Guardians marketing showing the movie about them finding out about the Tesseract then. You won't, because that doesn't even make fucking sense because nobody gave a shit about the Tesseract because it was just a generic power source macguffin before they retconned it into being an Infinity Stone.

Don't care simply shan't be watching it

>>212033112
He has to be shitposting, right?

>>212033063
Marketing, faggot.

That's like saying that the first Captain Marvel movie was never marketed as being essential viewing if people want to understand Endgame, after Infinity War, because the trailers for the movie never touch on what happened in Infinity War, but everyone fucking knows that the MCU sold Captain Marvel as THE movie to watch for how the Avengers will be able to defeat Thanos.
>>212033112
>Tesseract because it was just a generic power source macguffin before they retconned it into being an Infinity Stone.
So people would go and watch Guardians, yes. That's how those marketing worked.

>>212033115
That's fine. I'll watch twice for you.
You can't unwatch it more than one time

>>212033128
no he's probably a zoomer that didn't watch the movies as they came out so he thinks the tesseract was always this big thing teased as an infinity stone because that's what it is now when it wasn't. nobody but comic autists even knew who the fuck Thanos was at the time and GOTG1 was his first appearance in the MCU so the idea they would market the movie based on that also makes no sense.

>>212033112
It was the Cosmic Cube, a macguffin from a bunch of stories, many of them with the Red Skull and Cap. An entirely unrelated macguffin I might add.

>>212033158
POST A SINGLE PIECE OF MARKETING.

>>212011159 (OP)
I don’t know anon. But heres the thing: Superman will flop and Snyderverse will be restored next month. It will never reach Man of Steel box office numbers. Screencap this and let’s see who’s the loser.

>>212033158
>So people would go and watch Guardians, yes. That's how those marketing worked.
okay then show a single piece of Guardians marketing using the Tesseract. It should be easy if it was used like you claim.

>>212033158
>That's like saying that the first Captain Marvel movie was never marketed as being essential viewing if people want to understand Endgame
Anon...

>>212032993
Anon I have an extremely high IQ. I have been wrong less than 10 times in my entire life. Not even joking. When this shit flops my post will go viral so you're gonna want to be the first person to post it.

>>212033178
Dude, the MCU movies back then were all about magical stones, and how related they were to each other, and what they were for.
Captain America had the tessaract, The Avengers had Loki using another one to control minds, and then came Guardians and the marketing sold that as being the movie to watch for to get all the answers, with the villain get his gem/stone from Thanos himself, who people would finally see in all his glory after that small tease in the Avengers.
That was the marketing at the time. Go see this shit to finally see Thanos and get some of the answers, because it is going to matter for the next Avengers movie.

Stop lying to yourself that this wasn't the case.

>>212033158
The fuck are you talking about Captain Marvel for?

>>212033290
Because they used the same kind of marketing to sell that shit ass movie as an essential piece to the overarching arc.

>>212033279
The Tesseract was not a stone until after GOTG1 when they retconned it into being one. It was originally just a macguffin power source. Loki's staff was just a mind control device he had.

There is literally no mention of the word "Infinity Stone" until GOTG1, when they had the idea to just use them all to set up Thanos. Before that they were unconnected macguffins.

> and then came Guardians and the marketing sold that as being the movie to watch for to get all the answers, with the villain get his gem/stone from Thanos himself
Find me a single piece of Guardians marketing that is using Thanos you lying faggot. If that is the marketing as you claim why is he not in a single trailer?

>>212033327
Would love to see this marketing you keep pulling out of your ass because you misremember these movies.

>>212033420
>The Tesseract was not a stone until after GOTG1 when they retconned it into being one
Now ask yourself why they did that.
So they could trick audiences to give a shit to this new movie they were about to release, by tying it to previous movies. Dumb dumb.

>>212033449
>There is literally no mention of the word "Infinity Stone" until GOTG1, when they had the idea to just use them all to set up Thanos.
>But trust me, they were not using Thanos as a marketing tactic! They weren't! People watch it because they love Gunn! Everyone loves Gunn!

>>212033460
Here ya go, sport.

>>212033460
>Now ask yourself why they did that.
because it was easy to reference the thing they already had rather than create a new macguffin
>So they could trick audiences to give a shit to this new movie they were about to release, by tying it to previous movies. Dumb dumb.
that makes zero sense. If they wanted to market GOTG1 they would make the Infinity Stones a concept first and then tease they'll be learned about.

Still waiting for you to provide any evidence of Thanos or the Infinity Stones in the marketing btw.

>>212033512
Okay show me GOTG1 marketing that included Thanos or the Infinity Stones and I will concede.

>>212033519
>that makes zero sense. If they wanted to market GOTG1 they would make the Infinity Stones a concept first and then tease they'll be learned about.
They used these mysterious stones and devices from previous movies that did well, and tied to the new device from the movie they were trying to sell, so audiences that want to know more should watch it for answers, and now they're all tied to Thanos, who was teased as the big bad in the Avengers movie, and Thanos will in fact appear in the new movie in full, and is tied to the movie's villain, and one of the main characters, but trust us that Thanos isn't part of the way we are marketing the new movie.

Huh-huh.

>>212033623
okay it should be easy to provide an example where they advertised the movie based on this concept then

>>212033512
Any day now retard.

>>212033649
>>212033652
>>212033682
Why was Thanos in the movie? Ask yourselves why? For shit and giggles?

>>212033730
damn no example of him being in the marketing huh? keep looking bud maybe chatGPT can help you

>>212033730
It's like saying that the new Fantastic Four movie will have RDJ as Doctor Doom in it, but please don't go and watch the movie for RDJ. Kek. Nor get hyped to see him as the character for the first time.

>>212033730
I accept your concession

>>212033770
No one with a fraction of a brain expects RDjr in the Fantastic Four movie for any longer than Joker is in The Batman.
He's far, far too expensive to waste on a bit role, and signs limited movie contracts.

>>212033846
Yes, marketer. Got the message. Don't watch the movie for RDJ. KEK.

>>212021801
Correct, Superman isn't popular today.

>>212033868
I don't give a fuck if you watch it or not, but RDjr isn't going to be DOOMing around in it.
If he were, he'd be marketed more heavily than DAMAGED Joker was for Skwad.

>>212033899
Thanks, shills. Got it.

>>212033922
You are so new here

>>212033922
I'm not the Anon who handed you your ass in this thread, you don't have to be a salty bitch at me.

>>212033969
Of course, this place was taken over by marketing teams, after all.

People saying that nerds didn't watch Guardians for more Thanos after that Avengers tease are coping hard.

>>212033987
Meds

>>212016285
>Every woman I know wants to see it because of the dog
same but all the women are over 65 and collect medicare, most collect social security as well. Nobody under 40 cares about DC stuff, and a majority no longer care about Marvel stuff either now that Endgame is 5 years old

>>212034024
this nigga has probably been google searching with a time filter for the past 20 minutes and still can't find an example. keep going buddy you'll get one soon

>>212033869
You can thank Snyder for that

>>212034215
And leave his garbage comics and the absolute state of DC animations starting from Teen Titans uncredited? No, I don't think I will.

>>212034271
Oh, sorry I always forgot that DC kept pissing out stuff after committing creative and fanbase suicide with the 2011 reboot
my bad

>>212034215
Superman had been waning in popularity long before Snyder.

>>212034773
He was always low key beloved, he just didn't have any decent mainstream exposure since the 80s, but it always occupied a nice place in public consciousness, until Snydershit. There was in fact lots of hype for MoS, until people actually watched the movie

>>212035541
People liked Smallville well enough early on, but Superman Returns disappointed. STAS did ok bur worse than BTAS. Injustice, sad to say, is probably Superman's biggest thing from the last 15 years

>>212034773
No, it started with Brandon's superman then MoS. Flop after flop, people lost faith and watched MCU instead.

>>212036280
tbf Returns actually made slightly more than Batman Begins. it just had an inflated budget due to sucking up the preproduction costs of two cancelled Superman movies and was insanely boring so it didn't make as much in DVD sales but that's less due to Superman and more because of how dull the movie was.

>>212034215
>normies don't read comics
> No game
> No popular cartoon

They always wait for a new movie instead maintaining normie interest with other stuff

>>212011261
MoS did 1b adjusted by inflation. 1b means nothing these days.

>>212011159 (OP)
At least 1b to be solid but not really a hit. It would be comparable to MoS. That being said the marketing for this shit is fucking insane. Its probably the most shilled and marketed movie ever. We will never get the real numbers but its probably 300-400m. Plus 250m from the movie, and the cut from the theaters it would need 1.5b to start making profit.

>but they will recover with toys and merch
Already not selling. Mcfarlane shit is already warming shelves and it got outsold believe it or not by fucking Alfred figures from BvS, a 7 years old movie.

>>212037270
>by fucking Alfred figures from BvS
This can't be real.
Look, i liked the Snyder's DC movies, but c'mon.

>>212036394
Begins had a mediocre opening weekend but grew long legs. I remember it hung around the top five spot most the summer. It even beat out Cruise Wars of The Worlds which fell off a cliff after its opening weekend.

>>212035541
> low key beloved
Zoomer cuck revisionism, you don't know any Superman outside of Snyder and the seethe from redditors. Superman Returns flopped hard

>>212037521
War of the Worlds is based on some silent boomer sci-fi slop. Nobody cared about that or the Day After Tomorrow. Meanwhile Batman not being campslop was quaint and back then movies had longer runs and stayed in the public conscious longer. Supersaar is sandwiched between Kinosaur and FF its going to get slaughter

>>212037493
Not shitting you. They released a new wave of BvS figures for some fucking reason in 2025. They got all sold out. Last month Alfred was released and it got kinda hard to find.
A chinese company (fondjoy) made bank by making original BvS toys and now expanded to all DC movies like 89 and Nolan's. It literally made a chinkshit toy company into a respectable one.

BvS still sells a lot of shit.

>>212037609
But why? Who goes around buying a fucking Alfred doll.

>>212011485
Only bitter incel virgins think DC died with Zack fucking Snyder.

>>212037605
Almost every recent Jurassic Park has been frontloaded. Add on it has two weeks before Fantastic Four. If it’s good it’ll be fine.

>>212013480
You don't need a director with a fanbase for a Superman movie to succeed. Your head is up your ass apparently. Most normal people don't know or care who Snyder or Gunn or Singer or Donner are.

>>212037658
Bodybuilders, rockstars, billionaires, high iq guys, me, guys with huge dicks and playboys

>>212037756
LMAO, shit is hilarious.

>>212037684
DC died when they hired James Gunn to direct Superman.

>>212037707
That's has been every movie this year barring memecraft and even that movie didn't make a billie despite every major new station across the world spamming stories about it for like 2 weeks straight. There is no universe wear even underperforming or frontloaded Jurassic World doesn't eat some of Superman's lunch, even more so with FF. Word of mouth and having legs is not an assured thing from a movie even if critics glaze it. Look at thunderbolts

>Inflation arguments
Dishonest
Are Snydertards desperate?

>>212037938
Nope. But you'll see soon, incel.

>>212038373
how is that dishonest, movie tickets at my theater were like 7 bucks in 2013 and now its like 13 dollars. Today's dollar is not worth as much nor does it go as far and that has ramification for box office.

>>212038478
Get off the 'channel Gunn, this is embarrassing

>>212038639
Nah. It's box office minus budget. If the new movie has a higher result, then it was a bigger success. The dollar being less valuable means that the budget is less valuable too. Inflation arguments are dishonest.

>>212038834
While yes you have a point, it also means it sold less tickets to less people. Thus lower interest. Sure it costed less, it sold less. But it was also seen by less people. Lets not even talk about merch bombing like its doing.

>>212038946
At this point I'm pretty sure merch for everything is bombing.

>>212039031
Not for BvS. Still selling in 2025.

>>212039043
No way. Source me on that.

>>212039078
>https://bleedingcool.com/collectibles/the-dc-comics-multiverse-2024-highlights-batman-v-superman/
november 2024 releases
>https://bleedingcool.com/collectibles/batman-v-superman-alfred-pennyworth-comes-to-mcfarlane-toys/
2025 releases.

Keep in mind this is just Mcfarlane. Fondjoy still making new BvS and ZSJL figures. It propelled the company from a shit chink one to a respectable one.

>>212039305
This isn't anything, anon. I thought you had sales numbers.

>>212039370
Its joever bro. In 50 years BvS will still sell toys like Batman 89 does. Nothing you can do about it.

>>212039446
>>212039508
Ok, so.
>Inflation dishonesty
>Merch headcanon
I'm tired of modern 4chan doing narrative pushes. Movie isn't even out yet and you're already preparing copes in case this new one does better. You create the scenario you want to happen in your head and simply prepare on how you will argue it, rather than being curious like me and waiting for the results.

Overly autistic passion.

>>212039700
Its fine bro, just watcha and enjoy your marvel quip fest with Superman. I wont. And its ok. If you enjoy it and there is an audience for it, fine. It will do 800m, which means less people watched it than MoS. Will do terrible merch sales. Supergirl will do 500m. And the universe will be cancelled in 3 or 4 more movies. And its ok too. Nothing really matters.

>>212011159 (OP)
Snyder made 900 million with inflation, does anybody seriously believe supersaar is getting even close to that.

>>212039700
does better means making more money than Snyder, which is won't. Why are you so invested in a movie succeeding, you got stake in DC studios...