The DCEU was off to such a good start wtf happened. They literally didn’t even make a movie half this good after it

sneed

>>212102525 (OP)
today I will remind them

The Suicide Squad is the best DCEU movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPFPc0jMRio

I went thru the full list of DCEU movies and it’s actually a little mystifying that these are real movies. Hardly any of them made any money at all, all were reviled by critics and audiences, and frankly I didn’t even know half of this shot had come out. There was a Blue Beetle movie? It’s honestly fucking pathetic why do they bother.

>>212102525 (OP)
Man of Steel is the best sci-fi movie ever made.
Unfortunately it happens to be capeshit and the genre is plagued by subhumans.

>>212102525 (OP)
Dark and egdy Superman was a bad choice to start the DCEU

>>212102866
nah not all of them. the DCEU was probably the most inconsistent franchise I can think of. WW, Shazam, the second Suicide Squad were loved by critics. WW was the only female lead capeshit at the time when even the MCU was afraid to do it.

the latter half is basically just WB dumping the movies they already had and not trying to market them since they knew they were rebooting anyway. Blue Beetle was actually decently reviewed strangely enough though nobody saw it.

>>212102525 (OP)
That is why Snyderverse was such a joke. When MoS came out and divided, they want to do better so that MoS will be their weakest and it's only getting better. Then turns out MoS ended up being its best because the rest is such a joke.

>>212102566
That europe is fucked up in the 2025 one

>>212102871
/thread

>>212102980
MOS is by far the best iteration of Superman.

>>212103020
superman himself is kind of a boring character in it tbqh

>>212102866
they had 8 flops in a row
>Birds of Prey
>Wonder Woman 1984 (tbf, it was released at the same time on Max during Covid)
>The Suicide Squad (same situation)
>Black Adam
>Shazam! Fury of the Gods
>The Flash
>Blue Beetle
>Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
>>212102978
The DCEU was at a dead end, scrapping it was the best choice they ever made.

>>212102871
Based

>>212103041
Superman by himself isnt particularly interesting because he's supposed to embody the stoic hero archetype. This coupled with him being basically invincible makes his character somewhat one dimensional.

>>212103074
>Black Adam did better than any of those movies and Thunderbolts
rock-sama I kneel...

>>212102978
Shazam was terrible

>>212103212
I liked it but even then I said it was a critical darling not objectively good

>>212103203
Aquaman 2 outgrossed it

>>212102980
>this garbled English
GOOD MORNING SNYDIR

>>212103237
what is it that makes buff pacific islander men starring in capeshit so powerful?

>>212103166
Superman is “what if God was a man on earth?” Basically pop culture Jesus. Jesus is one dimensional too I guess

MOS had a better production team

>>212103041
>>212103166
>>212103287
Superman Golden Age was more.aggressive than Batman. Post 60's they sissified him.

>>212102525 (OP)
It's honestly a very ugly and kind of boring movie. Felt like it was aping Nolan's style from TDK trilogy but worse in every way. Dialogue is straight up awful at points. The fight in Smallville is cool though. Never seen super speed/strength portrayed like that. Fight in Metropolis is a mess however.

>>212103356
Yes Sir

>>212103430
>Aping Nolan's style

You Mook, Nolan, Goyer and Snyder created Batman Begins Superman edition, Like You know, IN THE COMICS!!!!!!

>>212103414
Comic book code

>>212103482
yeah but nolan's not directing it this time and it shows. it comes off as a temu nolan movie, but still somehow has all of the flaws nolan movies do. dull characters, sluggish exposition, terrible dialogue etc.

>>212103482
Zod was so based. Did they mean to portray him as sympathetic? Superman literally commits race-betrayal genocide

>>212102525 (OP)
If they didnt pussy out and released proper Justice League from begin with, tag teaming box office with Aquaman, and quickly filmed Aquaman 2, nowadays they would have made more than MCU movies.
Instead they went with retarded shit.

>>212103593
> released proper Justice League from begin with
Good morning sir

>>212102566
This is the batcave from the number 1 comic book movies of the 21st century. Irrelevant post

>>212103695
Forgot pic

>>212102915
They wanted to continue the nolanverse hyper realistic universe. They thought people wanted a dark gritty superman movie. They tried with man of steel, it made money but bewildered audiences who thought "what good is dark gritty superman". It wasn't really that dark and gritty, it was kind of "don't save me alien child, someone might be watching this tornado" retarded with a superman who doesn't really save people. Then they followed it up with a stupid batman vs superman movie with a really good batman and a really stupid plot. And then the dceu was braindead.
>>212103166
Superman isn't stoic. He's friendly and inspirational. He's folksy

>>212103695
yeah and it was soulless. actually all of Gotham in Nolan's version was kind of boring shit.

>>212103414
Batman used to use the batgyro to hang criminals with thyroid conditions. Two long nooses tied to the back of the bathroom to snag humunculouses from. When they stopped struggling batman said "they're better off this way"

>>212103527
The comics were literally a MAX style run, almost like a Dark Knight Frank Miller iteration. After the horribly dull Superman Returns, and the success of Batman Begins that was based on the comics, Warner bought in Nolan who brought in Goyer and Snyder.


>>212103573
Yeah. I'm sure of it. Notice he promised Kal he was going to kill everyone, and at a certain point he kinda realized that even if he had won, what would his purpose be henceforth? Which is why he gave Kal an ultimatum, kill me or I kill this family.

>>212103896
what? I never read the comics I'm just talking about the movie. It felt like a bad Nolan movie.

Disney shills are desperate to keep their woke MCU sinking ship afloat. They know they can't defend spic Reed Richards/female Silver Surfer/Brie Larson/etc so instead the plan is to attack the new DC movies sight unseen

>>212103846
Interesting, but to my point MOS was branded as a miscalculation of Superman wherein Superman began as an everyday man beating the shit out of Wall street tycoon types.

>>212103982
It wasn't bad at all, disagree with the choices if you will but thematically it was flawless. Jonathan Kent was and still remains the realist Jonathan Kent of them all; A man terrified of his adopted child's future. Every Jonathan Kent sucked because they behaved as if they read the script, the Superman Wikipedia, the Action Comics Encyclopedia.

>>212103989
>Interesting, but to my point MOS was branded as a miscalculation of Superman
I'm not ever gonna disagree with that anon lol
>wherein Superman began as an everyday man beating the shit out of Wall street tycoon types.
I don't think the issue was they didn't pull from the golden age superman, it's that they didn't pull from any superman.

>>212104092
a lot of the dialogue was awful, the movie itself was just oddly paced. it's so slow for a lot of it and then the last act is nothing but overwhelming action like a roland emmerich movie and Superman himself is pretty dull and there never really feels like a good reason to care about him as a person. His dad was fine even if his death felt a bit contrived, but I'll grant you Costner is probably the best actor in the movie and the first parts with him are a lot more engaging than everything after.

Amy Adams is mega mommy in this

>>212104348
The worst part is how all the characters except Zod and Faora are super bland.

>>212104139
Golden age follows the will of the creators. The sissification of Superman.

The movie had pacing issues, but the dialogue was fine. If you say overwhelming action you're not a comic fan. Did you read Death of Superman and went, too much action!!

>>212104855
death of superman was always a shit story only done for shock value and the only mildly interesting thing about it was the reign of superman after it.

>>212104348
b) part of this >>212104855 Was meant for you

>>212104139
The a) part was meant for you

Golden age follows the will of the creators. The sissification of Superman.

>>212104855
The dialogue wasn't fine though a lot of it was characters turning to the camera to give some lofty monologue to try to spell out the theme of the movie. The most egregious part is when Superman stops fighting Zod just to explain that he's experiencing sensory overload that he personally overcame with the help of his parents, as if the audience is too stupid to remember the first act of the movie and couldn't get it on their own. Then you have random corny shit like
>YOU'RE A MONSTER ZOD.. AND I'M GOING TO STOP YOU.
which is as bad as the same line from TDKR, which is why I say it feels like a temu Nolan movie. Then you just have lame attempts at humor that aren't funny, like Lois saying "well here it looks like an S.. what about S--," or the military girl saying how hot she thinks Superman is at the end. In a vacuum I don't think these things are a deathknell, like if some of this shit was in the Raimi Spider-Man movies it would work since how corny their tone in but it doesn't mesh well with the grounded documentary style they tried to do for the movie. And then it has that classic Nolan issue where 90% of the dialogue otherwise is just exposition, very rarely if ever do characters have a conversation to talk like normal people which is probably why Superman barely feels like a character in this movie. He talks to his dad about his purpose, he talks to his other dad about his purpose again, he talks to the military about his purpose, he talks to Lois about his purpose that's like all his conversations.

>>212104855
Death of Superman is one of the worst comics ever made, if the same decade didn’t produce the Spider-Man Clone Saga I would say it was the worst superhero story ever printed

>>212105079
>You're a monster Zod and I'm going to stop you

Is the proverbial straw that broke the donkey's back? That phrase, for you at least, served as One Step Beyond? Seriously?

>here it looks like an S
That broke your immersion? Some dumb shit a woman who is flirting might say? Seriously?

>>212102566
Isn't that a reason of budget? I watched the behind the scenes and making of documentary of Superman Returns and the DailyPlanet globe cost $1million and they were only able to build half of it, they had the build the top half in post (cgi) which when Bryan Singer found out he threw a tantrum at his SFX guy telling him "if you're going to cut my ball in half I want to be TOLD ABOUT IT!".

>>212102871
Unfathomably based. The opening of the movie is absolutely stunning, on Krypton how all that futuristic sci-fi imagined tech and biology woven together. All Krypton tech looks amazing to me.

>>212105400
>straw that broke the camel's back?
not at all it was just one example I gave
>this broke your immersion?
It was cheesy, which I don't mind like I said if it was in a Raimi Spider-Man movie it would be fine but it did not mesh well with the grounded documentary style approach they're going for it clashes.

>>212105079
KAL EL's dialogue was fine. Him telling everyone his angle is no different than an armed person showing you their hands.

>>212102566
bravo nolan

>>212102871
>the best sci fi movie is about two genetically engineered scientists' offspring somehow not being genetically engineered because he had "a natural birth"
very light on the science

>>212105591
It was cheesy? How do people talk, anon? Every word uttered has to be Shakespearean? Every bit of dialogue has to be canonized by old William himself?

>>212105715
what? I assume you're referring to the Zod scene. It's dumb because it's clearly exposition dialogue to explain why Zod is suddenly freaking out. But we already knew why Zod was freaking out because that was clearly laid out in the first arc of the movie, we didn't need Superman to suddenly stop the fight for no reason and turn to the camera and explain it and it's nonsensical for him to do so on top of that. A very similar scene occurs in the first Iron Man when the Jeff Bridge's's armor starts freezing up and we know exactly why it happens because we saw Iron Man deal with the same issue, so it's just a simple
>How'd you deal with the ice problem?
>What ice problem
>he freezes
>That one

if this scene was written like Man of Steel it would go something like

>It's getting pretty cold up here isn't it? You're freezing at sub zero atmospheric temperature. I learned how to bypass it by engineering a solution, enabling me to keep flying without freezing up. Without my improvements, you have no defense against it. And you can't move, can you?

>>212105838
yes

>>212105838
Because it's basically a near meta joke.
>every word uttered has to be shakespearean?
No? Where did you get that? But if you're trying to do a grounded documentary style movie you probably shouldn't have such lame wink wink lines of dialogue in the movie. It's no better than the
>Say that again....
from the FANT4STIC movie.

>>212105869
Normal people can and do go on for a spell. Beautifully however, and something you obviously missed, was KAL saying, It Took YEARS to adapt to the atmosphere!!!!
At the end of the movie, that Brilliant set up culminated Beautifully, and to demonstrate just how absolutely broken Zod is, Zod after paraphrasing his etymology then said, Where did you train, ON A FARM???

And then he demonstrated flight!!! Showing the audience and KAL of how deadly this guy was!!! So KAL's earlier colloquy paid off in spades.

KAL needed years and Zod, a few hours.

>>212106143
but it's information we already knew, and it doesn't tell us anything about superman's character. it's like it was written before the first act of the movie, or they were worried we'd forget.

>>212105877
>>212105918

Really? You expect a Tour D'Force from Cape shit?


>>212105918
When was MOS called a documentary?

>>212106236
NTA but this is such a stupid fucking nitpick it lasts all of 2 seconds and it’s Superman talking to zod

>>212106445
No? I just don't think the dialogue is good.
>when was MOS called a documentary
It's intentional shot like one, Snyder has even said as much, this is why there's the color is so desaturated, there's so many close ups on faces and why there's so much shaky cam because everything is shot handheld.

>>212106552
it's one example I gave out of like 3 and the general issue of so much of the movie being exposition. It's just the more glaring one because on top of it being exposition that was already clearly laid out, it ruins an otherwise clever moment in the fight.

>>212102525 (OP)
>movie where Superman's reveal is the worst thing to ever happen to Earth
This is the absolute worst possible start to a DC universe.

>>212102525 (OP)
Probably had the most amount of background tard wranglers we'll never hear about, so only half the movie was retarded instead of all of it.

>>212102525 (OP)
>likes man of steel or any hack snyder shit
GOOD MORNING SAR

>>212106236
KAL telling Zod about how long it took him to adapt paid off when Zod demonstrated Audio Visually how much better he is at being a demi god than a boy who trained on a Farm!!!!!

>>212106597
You’re the only person in the history of the world to make this observation, no one watching the movie gave a fuck

>>212106569
No where did they say, Hey, It's a documentary!

>>212106730

>>212102525 (OP)
No it wasn’t.

>>212106922
Yes it was, fagoi!!!

>>212106944
>DO THE STOPPING SON

>>212102871
This guy gets it.
The first contact scene where they hijack every electronic device was pure kino.

>>212106970
>Do not Redeem

>>212102915
The only thing dark about it was the a10 pilot getting turned into a blood mist by the roid freak

>>212106976
That was science fiction personified!!!!

>>212102866
Lifeless bong with nothing important to say, so you larp like a supergenios on le 4chan capeshit threads. Saying what you said here is like saying to someone while they're sitting in a movie theater:
>HEY WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU EATING POPCORN
>DIDN'T YOU KNOW POPCORN SUCKS YEAH IT'S BAD FOR YOU DID YOU KNOW THAT
>YEAH YEAH AND I'M BETTER THAN YOU BECAUSE I KNOW POPCORN IS BAD FOR YOU

>>212107274
Didn’t read but ty for the reply

>>212105787
Do you know how birth works you fucking retard? Yeah coming out of a cryo pod in a robot pool where your genetics are arranged at the atom by design of some fuckwad politician is different from being born out of a pussy. Speaking like a smartass is usually a monicker of lesser intelligence

>>212102525 (OP)
Man of Steel is like a parody of a Nolan Batman film. Nolan returned as an Executive Producer, Hans Zimmer returned to do the music and David S Goyer wrote the script. But unlike Nolan it kind of misses the point?

Nolan is a rather mainstream visual directory whose true strength is making normies feel clever. A lot of normal people want to feel more intelligent, the advent of Youtubers analysing media is part of this desire. The Dark Knight became the key example of mainstream faux intellectual discussion around the motives of the Joker and many of those lines struck a chord with audiences (you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain). But the motivation of the Joker was quite plainly expressed in exposition scenes like with Harvey Dent.

The problem with Man of Steel is, all its themes and perspectives are weirdly shallow as the film masturbates with the visual spectacle. And when people claim that the film did have deep intellectual points, many of these in the film are completely messy, particularly around Pa Kent and Superman's backstory. The film has something to say but didn't express it well. Nolan would have spelt it out, Snyder didn't spell it out but that doesn't mean it was intellectually deep or subtle, because he was confused about what he actually had to say.

And part of the problem I think, in particular after seeing the multiple director's cuts of Snyder's work, is the guy is like the person who posts huge comments explaining something on 4chan (like this post). The guy butchers stuff in the cut because he films too much and doesn't often understand the shorthand he needs to do in film language.

But because it was a parody of Nolan's style, we are forever stuck with idiots constantly claiming the film was more deep than it actually was, rather than a mainstream parody of a successful film making in a superhero cinematic universe.

>>212105869
So is Goyer too complex of a writer or too simple? Seems like no one can agree on what they want to shit on this guy for actually doing

>>212107498
David S Goyer once heard Wesley Snipes say, "Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill," during a meeting. He thought the line was so bad ass that it became the big one liner at the end of Blade.

David S Goyer is weirdly simple and dumb when you read his scripting. He isn't being complex, he is simply failing at expressing some rather simple stuff because he gets weird ideas in his head.

Some of the dumbest stuff in the Nolan films is absolutely Goyer but Nolan changes enough of it to improve it.

>>212107424
>guy writes a literal 4chan five-paragraph essay to discredit pseudo intellectuals
Oh the ironing

>>212107790
>Oh the ironing
Hey at least I was self aware enough to mention it in my post.
>is the guy is like the person who posts huge comments explaining something on 4chan (like this post)

>>212102978
The DCEU's second half is the most inexplicable period of mismanagement any major media company has ever had. They attempted to cash in on every IP they had....except Batman and Superman. Harley Quinn got more solo films than Affleck's Batman did. They put Cavill's Superman in the doghouse but greenlit a Suicide Squad reboot after one film. They dragged their heels on the Aquaman sequel but didn't hesitate to make Shazam 2.

They eventually did make a Batman movie....and it had nothing to do with their extended universe that desperately needed a hit and instead was essentially a competing product because Affleck was also still Batman. And now they don't know what to do with it because it doesn't fit with their new plan either. The biggest success of their entire tenure was Joker and that was a film they had so little confidence in they gave away some of the profits because they didn't think there would be any. Even their successes were partial failures. They literally did everything wrong every step of the way. It's like Snyder was the only sane person at any level of the executive branch.

>>212108005
True. I’m still obligated to make fun

>>212108640
The mismanagement happened because even the early DCEU didn't make much huge amounts of money (behind the scenes cost of setting up the franchise are not taken into account with individual film budgets) and their expectations were comparing it to Marvel and being behind the MCU which had just had an Avengers' movie break a billion. Mixed reactions from audiences and critics didn't help and they constantly went into panic mode. And post Justice League they were already in reboot mode when Aquaman made big bucks, confusing the process. Then they tried to course correct with Black Adam and the Flash. It was mismanaged from the get go because they expected MCU money/acclaim, felt behind, didn't have a plan and structure.

I mean fuck: post Man of Steel, WB were begging Christopher Nolan to be their Kevin Feige and even talked Christopher Bale about reprising the role of Batman in BvS and retroactively making the Nolan films the start of the DCEU.

>>212108918
>even talked Christopher Bale
*talked to Christian Bale

This obviously didn't come to pass.

>>212105400
>is the proverbial straw that broke the donkey's back?
I am not that guy and I love MoS, but desu that was the worst line in the movie, especially coming right after that fantastic Zodd's monologue. "My soul... That's what you have taken from me".

>>212107642
You sound like the most annoying motherfucker on the planet. Who gives a shit

>>212102525 (OP)
>The DCEU was off to such a good start wtf happened. They literally didn’t even make a movie half this good after it

Studio Interference was the main problem. MCU was getting too much traction too fast, and WB felt they had to move just as fast to compete.

They were hoping 'Man of Steel' would be a tie-in to Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy; which is why Nolan was the EP. But Bale refused to return. So they started the entire DCU from 'scratch'....still turned out to be a great film.

Then BvS came out and was butchered to shit, because WB wanted to quickly push for a Justice League movie, instead of letting the characters slowly be introduced, as it happened with The Avengers. While also pushing for the "Death of Superman" storyline, that didn't make much sense to begin with. "Zombie-Zod Doomsday" was a cheap way to do it.

Then Snyder's daughter died and threw off production of Justice League, that got Joss Whedon to finish the project, but was such a tonal mess, people couldn't tell where the dark edgy Snyder-ism started and Whedon's comical aloofness began....

Then there was Wonder Woman, and the hard injection of female politics.

Then there was alcoholic Ben Affleck being an alcoholic.

Then there was whoever that black guy who played Cyborg was, being some BLM poster boy by calling out Whedon for being a director of his movie.

Then there was Ezra Miller...... tranny-freak who likes to choke women, and start cults, and other stuff....

>>212107424
You type like a fag, and your shit's all retarded? Um??? Weird?? Meds? See why it's annoying now?

>>212109487
>Reddit spacing
>Not knowing the Ezra shit was fake
>Flooding the thread with essays
Kill yourself obvious newfaggot

DCEU died during the Martha sene

>>212109655
Checked for the classic meme but post-hoc unchecked for the shit outdated and proven wrong crtique

>>212109493
Fuck off Snyder pajeet

>>212109714
Um?? Meds, schizo?? Ermm, I think that's like...


Problematic?

>>212109432
Bro asked about Goyer, that's all retard

>>212109759
Bit ironic calling others schizo when you're losing it

>>212109764
Who asks about a writer on 4chan wanting some uppity moron writing a book in their replies?

>>212102915
It was a standard action movie. Edgy is something like TSS.

>>212109811
Oh. Sorry, my sweet summer child. You're the one out of touch, here... You seem...


I don't know... A little phobic?

>>212109537
>>Reddit spacing

Imagine getting triggered by spacing..... don't run with scissors, you'll make a mess.

>Not knowing the Ezra shit was fake

Deny it all you want, but his ass has been literally blackballed out of Hollywood <pic, the tranny-fuck has NOTHING going on since the Flash bombed.>...also there is video of him going 0-to-60 sperging and choke slamming a girl,....so fuck what you know.

>>Flooding the thread with essays

Shit attention span.... and, I don't care.... keep up, or fuck off.

>Kill yourself obvious newfaggot
You sound like the expert on such things troon....keep cutting away, you'll hit the sweet spot eventually.

>>212109713
Good morning sir

>>212107642
>David S Goyer once heard Wesley Snipes say, "Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill," during a meeting. He thought the line was so bad ass that it became the big one liner at the end of Blade.
he was right

>>212109849
TSS was a standard action movie with one extra curse word allowed and balls and tits. One scene with actual go

>>212109882
ywnbaw i know you only dislike ezra because he makes trannies look bad and he attacked muh druggy womans

>>212109924
lol, lmao

>>212109899
Good morning.

>>212109958
so you're blaming the victim, not Ezra.... yeah, you sound like a faggot.....

>>212109993 (You)

>>212102525 (OP)
WB got cold week sometime before the BvS premiere and chopped up the movie then afterwards gutting SS and Justice League. Can’t say if the original SS was going to any good though.

>>212110069
Relax bro sorry I struck a nerve

>>212110063
>the victim whose parents had to publicly apologize for claiming she was a victim
>the victim who egged him on at a bar until she was choked out, both of them visibly drunk, no one gives a shit
>the victim drug addict deadbeat mother who needed the hollywood tranny to help save her from her even further down the shitter black babydaddy
>the victim stalker who ezra had multiple restraining orders taken out on

>>212110144 (You)

>>212102525 (OP)
Not introducing Pierce Brosnan’s Dr Fate sooner

>>212110263
I accept your concession

>>212110173
wtf why does Ezra Miller's like reflect picrel

>>212110440
life*

>>212102915
The dark aesthetic was great, making Superman a depressed sad sack was a bad choice, though that was more BvS.

>>212110173
>lies
>lies
>lies
>lies
....why do trannies lie so much, especially to themselves.

I mean, if it was that simple Ezra would be in more movies than Pedro Pascal and Samuel L Jackson combined.... but zhe's not; the exact opposite... why?

>>212110596
Okay nigger. End of discussion. I'm not having a conversation with someone who denies infallible facts that are evident in reality and can be observed by anyone who wishes to check. What a delusional redditoid neurotic parasocial faggot you have to be to double down like that

>>212102525 (OP)
There’s a lot of historical revisionism happening nowadays. BvS didn’t hit as well as it should have but people were still definitely excited for the future of the DCEU. https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/4bupv2/official_discussion_batman_v_superman_dawn_of/

The real collapse came with Justice League. If Snyder did his plan they would’ve just fine. It wouldn’t have made a 3 billion dollar block buster like Endgame but it would’ve been profitable and WB could’ve moved on as soon as 2020/2021. I fundamentally disagree with Snyder’s plans post JL but that’s a different discussion.

>>212103573
>Superman literally commits race-betrayal genocide
No one likes a traitor. The biggest issue is how willing he is to wipe out his own kind, even his father didn't want to go that far. Saying "Krypton had its chance" makes him so unlikable.

>>212104348
>he movie itself was just oddly paced
he never really does anything as Superman before Zod shows up, which I thought was really odd. normally is origin stories the hero builds himself up a bit before the showdown.

>>212102566

>>212111134
Using Zod as the first Superman villain absolutely undercuts him as a superhero.

The way Man of Steel plays out makes it feel like Superman has built himself up but he hasn't really. Aside from the montage of Clark travelling and doing shit like saving people at an oil rig.

>>212111366
Typically you don't bring in the "anti" version until the hero is established. We don't know who Superman is yet, so the dark copy of him doesn't have much impact.

>>212110669
>Okay nigger. End of discussion.
You got nothing, so stay nothing tranny....

>>212102525 (OP)

No, it wasn´t. Too grounded, comic book adaptations should never be grounded. They need to embrace the essence of their source material. Stuff like Dick Tracy, Sin City or Burton´s Batman is were it´s at.