Thread 212110613

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>>212110613 (OP)
As an incel this makes me irrationally angry.

I met my wife in high school, that was 19 years ago. I married her 7 years later, never broke up, never had a huge fight that couldn't be resolved. She gave me, my 2 beautiful kids. I truly love her, she is my one and only.

>>212110613 (OP)
Why did his nose grow bigger the older he got? Does that happen to real people too?

>>212110871
Yeah it happens sometimes.

Theres always hope, anon.
We cant forget that.

>>212110806
The kids are actually mine bro. Didn't you notice the difference in colour?

>>212110806
Cheat on her lol

>they had no children
>when they died they gave everything to an immigrant
Name a more beautiful and aspirational ending

Pic related also pulled that

:)

>>212111003
>>212111048
This is what happens when you end multi-generational households.

>>212110613 (OP)
I am 28 years old. I have never had a girlfriend. I usually go on 1 date a year and get ghosted. I have to go to weddings this year for my friends and I'm afraid I'll look like an incel or gay going without a plus 1.

>>212111003
Gran Torino
>He had children
>He left everything to imigrant children

>>212110613 (OP)
I hate movies

>>212111003
That's actually a remake of a Swedish movie that was even worse because in the backstory the guy's wife miscarried and he kept the crib all those years then at the end he gave it to the Pakistani woman while smiling "it's yours now, like the future"
I still don't get why a bunch of atheist feminists get off so hard on everybody being muslim

>>212110613 (OP)
people stand that far apart when they get married?

>>212111150
Walt's children were shitheads tbf

>>212110613 (OP)
The rest of the movie is too silly and suffers from tonal whiplash. The first 10 minutes is perfect as a standalone Pixar short.

>>212110613 (OP)
Christ, it's so demonically ugly. They really should stop it with the 3D shit.

>>212110613 (OP)
Great short film attached to a mid flick. The last MI was kinda like that but the opposite, slop with an excellent short about two dudes fighting on a biplane at the end (also a solid submarine scene).

>>212110613 (OP)
>16 years ago this was portrayed as something sad and heart-breaking
>I would literally give away everything I have to experience such a life

I have had a gf and a long relationship before, but this still makes me depressed. Such level of connection is just something most of us will never get

>>212111391
>I still don't get why a bunch of atheist feminists get off so hard on everybody being muslim
White guilt is the foundation of all modern Leftist ideology. White Leftists unironically feel that they don't deserve to live and that they are inherently evil people that deserve to die, their race deserves to die, and they don't give a shit if the people who inherit the Earth when they're gone hold values in complete opposition to their own.

>>212111439
>>212111150
Funny how the immigrant kid ended up being a total faggot in real life, who later criticized the movie for being racist.

The movie ends with him finding a purpose and happiness in his last years, by becoming a father figure to the boy scout (who, in turn, becomes like the son he never had because of his wife's infertility)

>>212111614
or you know, maybe its just that having shitskins working for basicaly free is very profitable

>>212111723
What's the point of profit when you have no family, no nation and no future

>>212111723
I mean that's the motivation for the people at the top of the Left, sure.

But for the masses of White Leftists (particularly Women) the foundational block of their politics is self hatred.

>>212111817
>What's the point of living a lavish, hedonistic life if you don't care what happens after you die
Gee that's a tough one

>>212111707
why was she infertile? did she take the covid vax?

>>212111817
The people reaping the profits dont have to suffer the downsides retard

>>212110936
I'll remember

>>212110613 (OP)
Then the movie starts and gets lame

>>212110613 (OP)
Chad only. Chuds will never have this

>>212111983
dick too big broke her womb

>>212110806
Assuming you're not larping I am happy for you.

>>212111983
Barron womb,
Spartans used to pit those whores.

>>212111391
More anti-white bullshit from globohomo.

>>212110871
Cartilage never stops growing, that's why old fucks always have big ears, noses, hands, and joint problems.

>>212111560
Yeah they had a long and happy life together.
It's still sad because he loved her so much, but this is the best case scenario in life.

The resulting story with the old guy and the fat kid I truly didn't care for. Also
>never having kids
>don't pray for it or anything
>just grow old and die

>>212118049
>don't pray for it or anything

>>212111614
Eh kinda
Actually they believe to be smarter/better than everyone else

>>212118101
prayer is legitimate medicine if you believe. placebo effect

I bet his wife took it 'Up' the ass and that's why he missed her so much

>>212118339
Yeah out it happened in practice, at some point white entepreneurs with way to much capital said:

I SHALL USE THUS MONEY TO IMPORT SLAVES FROM AFRICA

>>212110871
Yes. Nose ears and penis continue to grow as you age. Why do you think young women go for older guys. Every man over age 70 is swinging a hammer.

>>212118386
placebo effect only "works" for subjective stuff like pain relief or anti-depressants
it won't fix a broken vagina

>>212118389
This is a great post. Very clever. Five stars. Ten out of ten. Ultimate gay retard.

>>212118536
God will fix anything and everything. I don't put the power and possibility of the Creator of the universe in a box.
>God can't fix vaginas!
Come now, anon. You know better.

>>212116703
Not a larp, it did happen. Love exists anons, it may not mean anything right now, it may sound stupid at this moment. Love does exist, never give up.

>>212118625
How can God fix a vagina if he doesn't exist?
Come on now, use your brain.

>>212110652
you arent missing out. no normie will ever go through this

It was overly maudlin and the entire film telegraphed Pixar's decline under Docter. Pretty much all the cancerous elements found in their new films first appeared in Up.
>human cast
>tone whiplash
>emotionally manipulative (FEEL SAD NOW!)
>story based on the life experiences of its creator
Finding Nemo began in the same way but no one remembers since Andrew Stanton knows how to be subtle and not let any one element overpower the dish.

Docter's problem is that he can't say no. He has no edge like Lasseter.

>>212111048
Fug, this gets me in tears every time. While marriage is not always easy and fun, I would be devastated if the mother of my kids would die tomorrow

Am I the only one who finds this scene cringe? No kid will get it, it's only there for the adults. It's nothing special and it only gets praise, because it's in a movie it shouldn't be in in the first place.

>>212121962
fuck, forgot image

>>212111707
And also fulfilling a new promise made to his wife, to honor her final request, that he continue living after her death and not just fade away alone. He crosses his heart after reading her last note >>212111048

>>212121962
Shut up retard.

>>212110806
>I met my wife in high school, that was 19 years ago. I married her 7 years later, never broke up, never had a huge fight that couldn't be resolved. She gave me, my 2 beautiful kids. I truly love her, she is my one and only.
20 years for mine. given me 3 beautiful kids...and i hate her guts. worst mistake i ever made. just an awful wife/mother. short tempered and selfish

>>212110613 (OP)
and

>>212110613 (OP)
>>212111048
>>212111306
This shit hurts me more every time I see it, and it’s because every time I do, more time has passed since I crossed the point of no return of ever getting to experience this. It hurts me every time I’m around my family and see my nieces and nephews. I feel like I’m getting kicked in the head while I’m already down on my hands and knees. Everywhere I go and everyone I meet sees nothing but the hundreds of layers of masks I have put on myself. I will have no legacy, I will not be remembered after my death, I will just be known as that one uncle who doesn’t show up to things much, doesn’t get along with his family, and spends all his time alone. I’m so crippled by it that even though I get interest from girls and go on dates, I’m just not there. All I can think the entire time is that it’s all for nothing and that I’m wasting my time. I’ve relegated my life to just surrounding myself with machines and enjoying the bread and circuses, because — God help me — that’s all I’ve got left.

>>212110806
I would say I'm happy for you, but I don't really mean it. I'm tired of finding out that love can be real for others, the real question is if love can be real in my life. Any other question is irrelevant.

>>212118536
Do you ever wonder why people who have the will to live are able to continue fighting to stay alive while people who give up, will wither when ill? Literally the desire to keep your self going is what keeps yourself going

>>212122927
If it makes you feel any better, you aren't alone by any means. 99% of relationships are basically just co-dependent dysfunctional people hanging on for appearances or because they are afraid of being alone. Most marriages are pragmatic at best (even if they start out loving) or outright toxic nightmare tier at worst. Very, very few humans in history, have ever experienced that kind of "soul mate" marriage between two people who are truly compatible and truly in love. And in the end, we all die utterly alone anyways, even if your loved one's are there, it's still a journey you ultimately take utterly by yourself.

The Universe sucks and is a generally shitty place. At least you were born in a time when you CAN numb yourself with mindless games and entertainment. Most humans in history didn't have that luxury and had to slave away in horrific conditions to support a family they could barely stand being around.

>>212123050
How often do you go out and actively search for people to interact with in order to expand your Social Circle and find someone you can fall in love with?

>>212123347
"Sour grapes!", he declared!

>>212123507
Sour grapes would be claiming no one wants to experience "true love," or that it doesn't exist, retard-kun.

I fully acknowledge it's real and that some lucky people get to experience it. But it's insanely rare, far more rare than society wants to admit. The overwhelming majority of human relationships are messy and barely functional. I'm happy for the people that are in long term loving relationships and marriages, but I also understand they are an extreme outlier and most humans never get to experience that.

What was the Disney Channel thinking?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1rVF8Np4xw

>>212123391
not so much because of work, I go out and meet people mostly on weekends. I even go to church. Feels pointless because all the people I met so far already have their lifes set in one way or another (either married, or with boyfriends, or with their closed circle of friends I can't partake in). I'm seriously thinking on going to a blind-dates event, or hiring some matchmaking service.

>>212122927
Look behind you. No one is coming, Anon. I wish they were. They're not, though. It's up to you. Don't ask for God's help and swat his hand away. Start with your diet, make sure it's on point, this makes things easier. There's more to life than the things we want. Now wake up, and give 'em hell.

>>212123050
he's larping bro

>>212123640
You're not going to ever win the lottery unless you start playing, and complaining about those who win is a bad look

>>212110613 (OP)

If this movie was real she would have broken up with him to ride the cock carousel in college.

>>212123937
You got a branch out. I wouldn't recommend dating events, but those are a good start, just start going places and talking to people, start making friends expand your life, get out of your comfort zone

>>212124141
Said the guy who has never had a girlfriend

>>212124178

I did. She broke up with me to ride the cock carousel in college.

>>212124141
>If this movie was real she would have broken up with him to ride the cock carousel in college.
nah, most girls just cheat in college then marry the sap who'll end up with the biggest salary

>>212124373

Yeah she wouldn't have stuck with the high school sweetheart she would have got ran through by guys in college. And in case you don't know 45% of women are single and childless. They get ran through then never actually settle.

>>212124118
Again, i'm not complaining. If anything i'm coping. Get some fucking reading comprehension.

>>212124492
>>212124361
>>212124141
Be quiet incel

>>212124513

Sorry nigga but these hoes ain't loyal and getting sad about a woman that won't even acknowledge your existence is retarded.

>>212124160
But I feel I'm already doing that, although not as much for job reasons. I also go to the gym somedays (and swimming, 2 days a week), but same case as before: people are already settled.

>>212124492
>Yeah she wouldn't have stuck with the high school sweetheart she would have got ran through by guys in college
my college fwb married her highschool boyfriend despite coming to my dorm for nightly deposits. my sample size is small though

>>212122927
i do not think a requirement of a good life is that you must have children. enjoy creation and seek to understand a greater mechanism behind it all and build a life around appreciating the Ultimate Creator. you'll be okay. not everyone has children.

>>212124854

See you get it.

>>212121962
just you. the scene is key to why the main guy lives alone

>>212125245

>noooo data that doesn't fit my bias is invalid....because it just is ok?

>>212125027
NTA, but as I understood the situation, things like a good life, much like self-esteem, are not based on your feelings of beliefs, but on the objective undeniable achievements you have. With my self-esteem, I can fully believe that I'm stronger and very handsome. But if in reality I'm a weakling and people remind me I'm not as attractive over and over, eventually my self-esteem is going to shatter.
A "good life" works in a similar way, I can delude myself that spending all my day in front of a PC is wonderful, but everything tells me (my health, the people...) that it is a wasted life. A good life is based on three objective things:
>being healthy
>being resourceful
>being welcomed by others
a failure to achieve any of these results in an unfulfilled life no matter how hard we spin it.
And where do children comes to the picture? Children are an undeniable proof of love. Failure to reproduce means you will feel that something is missing, even whe you are loved by others.

>>212125787

Failure to reproduce means your society got blasted by feminist propaganda.

>>212125787
You can achieve being welcomed by others without kids. And you underestimate how many have kids and are unwelcomed by their own flesh and blood.

>Children are an undeniable proof of love.
These can also be relationships ended in divorce and with a seething resentment and hatred of one another, especially when back in the past it was just something you did by peer pressure.

>>212122927
>No legacy
The vast majority of people do not. You get a generational legacy, maybe a 2nd one if you're a grandfather, but great grandparents rarely register so much as a blip given how (generally) briefly they are around. And after that nobody remembers their great great grandparent. Doesn't matter how many kids you had. And at best a memory is like
>This is your great grandfather anon, he [did career]
>Oh neat I can see I have his hair
Then that's it.

I understand the feeling of nihilism and all that. It hits us all sometimes. Like I said to the other anon there's no guarantee a relationship will fulfil you - it could make you more miserable, your kids could hate you or be contemptuous of you. There's no one size fits all answer for a life worth living but I agree with the other anon that being welcomed or desired by others is one element. You can get that via online exchanges, although it's a pale imitation of the real thing.

The shit I've read/listened to suggests the main satisfaction for life is meaning, purpose and fulfilling. That may be having kids or a relationship, it is for many people, but others have that and are still unfulfilled to the point of suicide. You gotta find what's fulfilling for you. Won't happen overnight but try and take baby steps, momentum builds up over time and with continued small successes. Good luck.

Also because this is 4chan and I was too saccharine
>sixty niggers dilate tranny cuck 41% your brown.

>>212125787
>A "good life" works in a similar way, I can delude myself that spending all my day in front of a PC is wonderful, but everything tells me (my health, the people...) that it is a wasted life. A good life is based on three objective things:
>>being healthy
>>being resourceful
>>being welcomed by others
>a failure to achieve any of these results in an unfulfilled life no matter how hard we spin it.
>And where do children comes to the picture? Children are an undeniable proof of love. Failure to reproduce means you will feel that something is missing, even whe you are loved by others.
married and she shat out three kids...now i live on easy mode. as long as i don't get arrested for a capital crime or do something super embarassing...i die with the 'loving father' emblem on my tombstone. weight off my shoulders. but we're just ants enjoying a tiny piece of time, so doesn't really matter

>>212118389
kek

>paragraphs of incel cope

Yeah don't criticize feminism search for some retarded "I am loved" horseshit

>>212124497
You always act like a shitty bitch when people try to encourage you?
No wonder you're fucking alone

>>212110806
I’m happy for you, anon. Cherish what you have. I wish I had that myself in my own life. I turned 35 recently, and even before then I have been losing hope for a while now.

>>212124669
You are just going to random locations where people gather, but you're not going to places where people socialize. You need to go to bars and events and recreational areas and hobby areas etc.

>>212118389
chuckled

>>212126552
>You are just going to random locations where people gather, but you're not going to places where people socialize. You need to go to bars and events and recreational areas and hobby areas etc.
boomer take. single girls aren't going anywhere to socialize and meet new guys to date. they go to bars/clubs to fuck chad, then get to thumb through tinder to find a 'settle down with' type guy. everything else is just dumb luck. work out and increase the bank account, or get used to being alone

>>212126797
>just don't bother bro just be demoralized bro why even try
kill yourself and make some room for actual men to talk

>>212126926

Women divorcing you at happens regardless of how much of an "actual man" you are. Start opposing feminism or keep getting scammed.

>>212127012
I'm married to a subservient woman that is almost 10 years younger than me and you are a miserable fuck who does nothing but whinge and cry instead of actually getting off his ass and giving it a shot

I heard Asner on the radio promoting Up one time and he started talking about how the World Trade Center collapsed faster than can be explained by gravity. You could hear his son kicking down the door and he pulled him off the air right there.

>>212126926
>>>212126797 (You)
>>just don't bother bro just be demoralized bro why even try
>kill yourself and make some room for actual men to talk
>>212126797
>work out and increase the bank account
why even try? i told him what to try. women like looks > financial security > personality in that order. he should be working on the first two as hard as he can while he tries.
>events and recreational areas and hobby areas
cold approaching can be difficult for handsome successful people...he'll need some help

>>212123347
That’s part of where my frustration and despair stem from. I know lots of people personally who have terrible relationships or who have gotten out of one. It breaks my heart, and makes me wish all the more that I could get that kind of deep, intimate “soul mate”-type relationship everyone chases. So many people who are in relationships simply do not understand what they have.
>>212124059
Thank you, anon. I needed to hear this. Especially
>Don't ask for God's help and swat his hand away.
>>212125027
It’s less about not having children and more about not having someone who cleaves into me as I cleave into them, who knows me completely and still loves me all the same, as I do the same for them. I want someone I can retreat from the entire world with. Having children is so far removed from my mind right now not only because I don’t have anyone but also because, truthfully, I can’t stand them. I borderline hate them, and I hate myself so much for it. I’m not an antinatalist by any means, but my own shortcomings have me locked into this feeling that I could never be a good boyfriend or husband, let alone a good father. That my nieces and nephews love me so much and view me like I’m their best friend breaks me even further, because they don’t know how hard it is for me to want be around them and how bad I feel about it.
>>212126239
Thank you, anon. I guess to more properly characterize my despair, it’s less about a legacy in the sense of long-term global or societal remembrance and more that I just don’t feel like anyone I personally know would actually miss me if I disappeared. I know in reality my friends and family would, but I just can’t imagine why.

>>212127642
So get off of this website and go start forming authentic connections with people that you empathize with, stop being such a fucking loser

>>212121962
>Am I the only one who finds this scene cringe? No kid will get it, it's only there for the adults. It's nothing special and it only gets praise, because it's in a movie it shouldn't be in in the first place.
Kids can understand the scene just fine. They can handle serious material like that if you present it properly, the problem is modern story telling is very infantile.

>>212110806
Ha ha

Been with mine since 2014

Earlier she threatened to divorce me on the phone because our kids made the house messy

Fuck you dude

>>212128046
Skill issue

Can we talk about the film now?

>>212128046
Kids are hard. It’s a pass/fail test: did your kids graduate high school and did your marriage survive? If yes, you won.

This thread's just made me depressed

>>212128717

Why? Stop crying over some made up fairy tale of a relationship and accept women have been psyopped to hate and oppose you.

>>212111469
Felt that way back when I saw it in theaters and it always annoyed me that it went unremarked upon.

>>212110613 (OP)
Good movie.

I feel weird since my parents are in their 50's and still together, with basically no arguments or troubles. Dad works as a doctor and mom just cooks and cleans. Kind of jealous since I feel like I'll never have a marriage as good as theirs

>>212110613 (OP)
>>212121962
>>212122006
why didn't they just adopt?

>>212130486
What's the point of having children if you don't get to have hot pregnant sex with your wife?