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Anonymous No.212129099 >>212129126 >>212129227 >>212129266 >>212129349 >>212131824 >>212133724
Can they really not easily trace it if you steal a bunch of stock and bond certificates?
Anonymous No.212129126
>>212129099 (OP)
just wear a fake mustache when you go to sell them. nobody will ever know
Anonymous No.212129185 >>212129290
Not bearer bonds, no. You pay whomever the "bearer" is, hence the name
Anonymous No.212129227 >>212129290
>>212129099 (OP)
Bearer bonds, and they were going to blow everything up.
Anonymous No.212129253 >>212129290
No, they were bearer bonds. They are unregistered and whoever is in physical possession owns them.
Anonymous No.212129266 >>212129290 >>212130088 >>212130655
>>212129099 (OP)
Bearer bonds were made to be untraceable and to skirt banking rules, like swiss numbered accounts

that all changed on 9/11
Anonymous No.212129290 >>212129364 >>212129625 >>212130606 >>212131501 >>212131995 >>212132825
>>212129185
>>212129227
>>212129253
>>212129266
thanks GPT
none of you fucking remembered they were bearer bonds.
Anonymous No.212129349
>>212129099 (OP)
Would it even matter?
We can trace how much money the Federal Reserve has stolen but it's not like anyone's gonna get in trouble for it.
Anonymous No.212129364
>>212129290
I've watched the film at least ten times by now.
Anonymous No.212129374 >>212129481 >>212130625 >>212130939 >>212131016
This guy deserved a spinoff movie
Anonymous No.212129481
>>212129374
Why? He was just a retarded addict.
Anonymous No.212129625
>>212129290
I did

In fact they mention in the movie what they are and how they work retard
Anonymous No.212130088 >>212130518 >>212130575 >>212131951 >>212132300 >>212132449
>>212129266
But do random people just show up with $10 billion in untraceable bonds and nobody notices?
Anonymous No.212130518
>>212130088
I would assume no, you would show up randomly with random amounts
Anonymous No.212130575 >>212132193
>>212130088
it doesnt matter, its legal tender. you will eventually find some middle man to do it. you know, tax haven islands without extradition? youre among friends there.

the whole point of
>that all changed on 9/11
is because of how easy it was to just move wealth around completely anonymously
Anonymous No.212130606
>>212129290
You are a doofus.
Anonymous No.212130625 >>212130814
>>212129374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pINu1uey4CQ
Anonymous No.212130655 >>212130707
>>212129266
I watch it every Christmas. Of course I remember
Anonymous No.212130707 >>212130823 >>212131050
>>212130655
>IT'S MY FAVORITE CHRISTMAS MOVIE
Anonynous No.212130814 >>212130854 >>212132825
>>212130625
What is this? It seems inbetween Space Cop and Kung Fury.
Anonymous No.212130823
>>212130707
LOL!
Anonymous No.212130854
>>212130814
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4975856/
Anonymous No.212130939
>>212129374
>BUBBIE
Anonymous No.212131016
>>212129374
>plan is to kill all the hostages on the roof
>this turd tries to get McClain to turn himself to the thieves
>if this happened then McClain would also get killed in the roof explosion
Faglord beardo got what he deserved.
Anonymous No.212131050 >>212131465
>>212130707
You're allowed to enjoy things, anon, even if other people enjoy them.
Anonymous No.212131076
it's ridiculous how mclain somehow got inside this vent
even putting aside how he managed to hang on by his fingertips, he would either need room to pull himself up and swing a leg over like in military training or continuous stable things inside the vent to grab and drag himself into
Anonymous No.212131465 >>212131930 >>212132173 >>212133695
>>212131050
>Whats my favorite christmas movie?
>Diehard of course
>I said Diehard
>get it because most people name a classical chrismtas movie like Miracle on 34th Street or it's a wonderful life or the Grinch, but not me I said an action movie!
>Get it!
>I'm so le random quirky!
Anonymous No.212131501
>>212129290
>none of you fucking remembered they were bearer bonds.
it gets mentioned about a dozen times, maybe more
Anonymous No.212131824 >>212132103
>>212129099 (OP)
>Can they really not easily trace it if you steal a bunch of stock and bond certificates?
The Bonds were “Bearer Bonds” which are not registered to an owner, and were payment is made to the individual “bearing” the bond, similar to cash.
Presumably, there were ways to track bearer bonds, to an extent, specifically if one had the serial numbers, and knew the right individuals in banks or other institutions that handles bonds of that nature, similar to tracking gold bullion “good bars” which are individually serial numbered by each refiner authorized to refine and cast good bars.
Also, they were stealing hundreds of millions of dollars worth of bonds.
Anonymous No.212131930 >>212133403
>>212131465
Meanwhile, in the rest of the world...
>What's your favorite Christmas movie?
>>Die Hard. You?
>White Christmas.
>>Oh I love that. Christmas in Connecticut is good too.
>Yeah, or Miracle on 34th Street.
>>The original or the remake?
>The original, although I guess the remake isn't terrible.
>>What about Christmas Carol?
>I like the Alistair Sim one.
>>Oh that's good. I used to watch that with my family. I think I like the one with George C. Scott more though.
>That's cool.
Anonymous No.212131951
>>212130088
>But do random people just show up with $10 billion in untraceable bonds and nobody notices?
One would think that serial numbered securities in amount values in the hundreds of millions of dollars would be traceable and trackable to an extent,
and they likely are,
but securities of this type were made as a way of transferring large sums of money,
And yes, “random people” do occasionally just show up, with securities in this amount.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-mar-13-me-johnson13-story.html
Anonymous No.212131995
>>212129290
bearer bonds are the things you steal that are untraceable, bro. It stands to reason that's what you were talking about.
Anonymous No.212132103 >>212132193 >>212132737 >>212132986
>>212131824
IDK seems like it'd be super easy to catch them.

>try to cash millions of dollars of bearer bonds at a bank
>"Gee sir, you sure have a lot of bearer bonds! kinda reminds me of that heist that happened a while back where some foreigners stole a whole lot of bearer bonds. Say you talk kinda funny"
Anonymous No.212132112 >>212132268 >>212132986
Who were they stealing the bonds from? The company? Why did they have them were they criminals too?
Anonymous No.212132173
>>212131465
My favorite christmas movie is Project Shadowchaser 2: NIGHT SIEGE
Anonymous No.212132193
>>212132103
see >>212130575
>you will eventually find some middle man to do it. you know, tax haven islands without extradition? youre among friends there.
how much were they going to make?
hundreds of millions?
a shady banker easily does it for 5%
Anonymous No.212132268
>>212132112
>The company? Why did they have them were they criminals too?
Yes they were. We live in a society that persecutes gamers while real criminals go free in their suits and ties!
Anonymous No.212132300
>>212130088
You sell the $10 billion in bearer bonds to North Korea for $5 billion in cash, lumber and precious stones.
Anonymous No.212132449
>>212130088
Not if your hat is small enough. They won't look twice.
Anonymous No.212132573
Aren’t “securities” actually owned by the stock exchange?
Anonymous No.212132737
>>212132103
I think the point of bearer bonds was that the bond issuer is/was supposed to pay the monetary amount, to whomever showed up with the bonds.
The “terrorists” showing up themselves, might be problematic, but a middleman could show up, and make a legitimate claim to the bond issuer, and the bond issuer would be legally obligated to hand over the cash.
I presume in most instances, the bonds would be transferred thru multiple parties before anyone tried to make a claim.
The more parties the bonds travel thru, the murkier ownership rights become.
The other side to this, is that any corporation with hundreds of millions of dollars in bearer bonds in a safe, likely has the resources to monitor the bond markets, and find out if any supposedly destroyed bearer bonds have turned up, and then potentially backtrack were the bonds came from.
Intelligence agencies almost certainly had and still have people monitoring bonds and other securities, and keep track of serial numbers were possible, to monitor illicit transactions.
Anonymous No.212132825
>>212129290
Most of us re-watch this every year for Christmas. I just recently watched an episode of Castle where a teenage kleptomaniac girl was murdered over them.

>>212130814
It was a Hulu exclusive to draw in subscribers. First season was good then the rest went off the rails. IIRC 2 rebels come from the future to destroy a company that makes everything into a dystopian hellhole. That episode is from the later seasons, where he got rich and famous from being in a boy band.
Anonymous No.212132986
>>212132112
>Why did they have them were they criminals too?
They were reparations for the Japanese Americans who had their homes and property stolen during WWII, when they were all forced into internment camps.

>>212132103
Bearer bonds are like crypto. The crypto belongs to whoever has the key to access them. Some anons had their keys on usb drives that they lost a million years ago.
Anonymous No.212133403
>>212131930
That's not how it ever goes. Its literally always "die hard is my favorite Christmas movie" followed by smugjak.jpg if you've never met this guy its because you are this guy
Anonymous No.212133695 >>212134941
>>212131465
My favorite is actually Die Hard 2. It reminds me of the magical time of when airports used to be nice before 9/11 happened. Zoomers will never understand.
Anonymous No.212133724
>>212129099 (OP)
nope
Anonymous No.212134941 >>212134975
>>212133695
the worst Die Hard movie
Anonymous No.212134975
>>212134941
Nah. That was the one with his son. I watched it 3 times and I honestly don't remember a thing about except they jumped thru a construction trash shoot.