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Anonymous No.212134086 >>212134152 >>212134161 >>212134184 >>212134201 >>212134298 >>212134698 >>212134735 >>212140872 >>212149183 >>212149976
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M3GAN 2.0 edition
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Anonymous No.212134152 >>212134196
>>212134086 (OP)
They should have actually made a suitmation film where she blows up like Jet Jaguar.
Anonymous No.212134161
>>212134086 (OP)
First for Nell
Anonymous No.212134184 >>212134240
>>212134086 (OP)
What's better, Krishna Cottage or Bulbbul?
https://movieweb.com/horror-movies-in-hindi/
Anonymous No.212134196
>>212134152
If I was a billionaire I would definitely fund a suitmation kaiju M3GAN sequel.
Anonymous No.212134201 >>212134236 >>212134242 >>212134898 >>212135081 >>212135223 >>212139300 >>212149293
>>212134086 (OP)
Is Megan 2 even a horror movie? Everything I've seen or heard about it makes it seem like they ditched that theme
Anonymous No.212134236 >>212134898
>>212134201
It's a comedy-action movie with some horror (-comedy) elements.
Anonymous No.212134240 >>212134625
>>212134184
only one indian horror film has ever been shilled here and it's Bramayugam
Anonymous No.212134242 >>212134274
>>212134201
It is disney horror
Anonymous No.212134274 >>212134304 >>212134735
>>212134242
*James Wan horror
Anonymous No.212134298 >>212134361 >>212134407 >>212135227
>>212134086 (OP)
Kino poster for a kino movie.

I still smile thinking about it. 2025 has been a shit year, and M3gan 2 is the first film that I genuinely enjoyed. 2024 and 2023 weren't this bad.
Anonymous No.212134304 >>212134361 >>212134735
>>212134274
I will watch it, I wonder how involved he was or if some β€œproducer” bullshit
Anonymous No.212134361 >>212134393 >>212134522
>>212134298
Ugly Stepsister and M3gan 2.0 are the clear winners of the year for me so far.
>>212134304
He wrote the first movie and handpicked the director. He was just a producer on 2, idk how much he contributed. M3gan is his brainchild though.
Anonymous No.212134393
>>212134361
Interesting, it is his directing that really elevates a movie. Nightswim wasnt that good and he was just a producer.
Anonymous No.212134407 >>212134458 >>212134482 >>212134702 >>212136165
>>212134298
There's some heavier hitters coming later this year at least. Not banking on all of these but looking forward to some of them.
>Jurassic World Rebirth (2 July)
>Hot Spring Shark Attack (11 July)
>I Know What You Did Last Summer (July 18)
>Weapons (August 8)
>Shelby Oaks (August 22)
>Toxic Avenger (August 29)
>The Conjuring: Last Rites (5 Sept)
>HIM (Sept 19)
>The Strangers: Chapter 2 (26 Sept)
>Hell House LLC: Lineage (Oct)
>V/H/S 8 (Oct)
>The Black Phone 2 (17 Oct)
>Frankenstein (Nov)
>Predator: Badlands (November 7)
>Five Nights at Freddy's 2 (5 Dec)
>Silent Night, Deadly Night (Dec)
>Anaconda (25 Dec)
>Return of the Living Dead (2025)
Saw XI and Silent Hill not making the year is disappointing. At least SH will come out 2026.
Anonymous No.212134458
>>212134407
It already came out as a small release in theaters, but I'm most excited to see Dangerous Animals (serial killer/shark movie by the director of The Loved Ones and The Devil's Candy), along with Weapons and possibly The Black Phone 2.
Anonymous No.212134460 >>212134513 >>212134526 >>212134566
A lot of marketing material wasn't in the movie. I thought she was going to emerge from the dancing silhouette in the end credits and do this wink, but it didn't happen.

The gay dude from the trailer talking about how she was a warrior princess wasn't in it either... definitely for the better imo.
Anonymous No.212134467 >>212134599
M3GAN 1 was barely horror as it is and 2 definitely isn't.
Anonymous No.212134482
>>212134407
> >Jurassic World Rebirth (2 July)
Aged scarjo, no thank you.
>Hell House LLC: Lineage (Oct)
>V/H/S 8 (Oct)
>The Black Phone 2 (17 Oct)
Sure. but I really had to pretend the character in the last Hell House were not black even though the movie was very good.
Anonymous No.212134513 >>212134698
>>212134460
Anonymous No.212134522
>>212134361
The 1st one was very tongue in cheek and at the same time it had the avenging angel/killer doll trope effectively used. They should have released this one in January too or else stuck with the tone of the previous one
Anonymous No.212134526
>>212134460
James Wan does seem to keep things tight. Very stylish and keep a good tone.
Anonymous No.212134566 >>212134663
>>212134460
Speaking of marketing, they doomed this movie. I've seen a ton of posts saying they thought the movie was way better than the marketing implied.
Anonymous No.212134599 >>212134617 >>212134700 >>212134898 >>212135498
>>212134467
Eh, M3GAN was basically Gen-Z Child's Play. Except instead of cool voodoo and a serial killer it's muh science and muh girl boss. Don't get me wrong, I liked the first one fair enough but it's a product of its time to be sure.
Anonymous No.212134609 >>212134709
Gerard Johnstone has done horror-comedy from the beginning, and he has been trending towards comedy with each outing. I think that is what he enjoys more. I think he does a good job.
Anonymous No.212134617 >>212134767
>>212134599
Pretty much. Zoomers are cringe.
Anonymous No.212134625 >>212140384
>>212134240
There's an interesting episode in The Field Guide to Evil anthology that takes place in India
Anonymous No.212134663 >>212134709
>>212134566
I want to enjoy Megan 2, so I didnt watch any promos.
Anonymous No.212134698 >>212134800 >>212134901 >>212135249 >>212136638
>>212134086 (OP)
The other day, one anon said Cabinanon would destroy one of those life-size M3GAN dolls which made me laugh until my stomach hurt.
Who cares about a doll anyways. (You) me when Blum & Wan let picrel go on dates with fans twice her age!

>>212134513
Based. I love Metropolis.
Anonymous No.212134700 >>212134898
>>212134599
The ingenious thing about the 1st one was that it appealed to several demographics,almost like a Pixar movie: there was the intended 15-30 yo audience but both parents and children enjoyed it as well
Anonymous No.212134702
>>212134407
>Silent Night, Deadly Night (Dec)
>a remake of the 1984 film of the same name
I didn't know about this. The original is great, I got to see a film print of it in the theater a few years ago around Christmas. Feeling pretty skeptical about a remake, but I'll see it out of curiosity.
Anonymous No.212134709
>>212134609
Housebound was really solid too. He excels at doing these weird funny genre-bending movies.
>>212134663
>so I didnt watch any promos
Fantastic decision, watch the movie without watching the shitty trailers.
Anonymous No.212134735 >>212134801 >>212134809 >>212134810 >>212134991 >>212155883
>>212134086 (OP)
>>212134274
>>212134304
On a similar Wan note, excuse me for sounding like a fragile faggot redditor, but the more I think about it, the more The Conjuring bothers me
"Based on a true story" is always nonsense, 100x so in a horror movie, but it just sits wrong that Ed and Lorraine Warren were two of the most ruthless self-aggrandizing con artists in American history and the movies depict them as these brave, romantic, all-loving heroes
It'd be like if there were a ten movie, $3 billion franchise about Elizabeth Holmes and Tammy Faye Baker preventing terrorist attacks and saving children from sex traffickers and that ended up being the only """historical""" reference most people would ever have for them
Anonymous No.212134767
>>212134617
Yeah, I fucking hate them- but they're a product of their time as well. Growing up in a glowing Zogbot pressure cooker with discord and reddit from age 10... what else could we expect? I feel sad for them... almost.
Anonymous No.212134800 >>212134871 >>212134928
>>212134698
I can't tell if this is an old woman trying to look like a young girl or a young girl trying to look like an old woman.
Anonymous No.212134801 >>212134862 >>212134895
>>212134735
The first two, you can just ignore it (and I do actively push it out of my head). But the third one is egregious. Imagine someone in your actual family got murdered and hollywood makes a film about how the murderer is a decent guy and the devil actually did make him do it.
Anonymous No.212134809
>>212134735
I do have to admit, the strangeness of using those protagonists has hit me at times.
Anonymous No.212134810
>>212134735
It's kind of funny desu.
Anonymous No.212134862
>>212134801
>devil actually did make him do it.
Are you saying that didn't happen?
Anonymous No.212134871 >>212137977
>>212134800
She's 14.
Anonymous No.212134895
>>212134801
Amityville 2 does something very similar. Kino film, 9.5/10
Anonymous No.212134898 >>212134951 >>212135061
>>212134201
>>212134236
>>212134700
>>212134599
If it makes you feel any better, M3gan: Soulm8te (Soulmatey?) will almost certainly be much closer to the genre, "A grieving widower buys a robot wife and then she starts murdering people"
Them making it a star vehicle for the new Evil Dead Girl seems on the nose, too

Also nobody mention Companion or Subservience or Wifelike or whatever because this shit is 100% Deadly Friend
Anonymous No.212134901
>>212134698
yes yes... join the bunny side
Anonymous No.212134928
>>212134800
I thought that too.
Anonymous No.212134951 >>212135061 >>212135081
>>212134898
My pipedream is that enough people watch and love M3gan 2.0 when it hits streaming that Soulm8te ends up doing well.
Anonymous No.212134991
>>212134735
But you won't find many mainstream 'paranormal investigators' willing to publicly say negative things about them. So I think if you're a public figure who is a "believer" you have to kind of maintain the facade they were legit or it all starts to fall a part.
Anonymous No.212135061
>>212134898
>>212134951
For a 3rd one to happen Soulm8te will have perform well, preferably w/ some nod to the Megan movies and they'll have to move the franchise forward. The trailer clearly didn't connect to audiences and lacked memorable lines
Anonymous No.212135081 >>212135129 >>212135177 >>212135219 >>212135498 >>212135780
>>212134201
The scariest thing about M3gan is that no one will ever love you as unconditionally as she loves Cady

>>212134951
I hope they rehash some M3gan 1 story beats rehashed with a suburban housewife
>Don't worry sweetie, Mr. Johnson will never be borrowing your lawnmower again :)
>Lemonade?
Anonymous No.212135129
>>212135081
>this poster shows up in the film
Anonymous No.212135177 >>212135215
>>212135081
>full scale dolls looking increasingly real
>AI passing Turing test
We're not far out from M3GAN irl anon
Anonymous No.212135215
>>212135177
They had to make the sci-fi elements in this movie crazier because the sci-fi elements in the first one are real now.
Anonymous No.212135219 >>212135988 >>212136061
>>212135081
>no one will ever love you as unconditionally as she loves Cady
Or at all
Anonymous No.212135223 >>212135259 >>212135263
>>212134201
Unless you want this to become Terrifier, it's still horror. The trailer I watched had a blood-splatter scene from the R-rated cut and overall more people died in this movie. Theme remaining that all deserved it.
Anonymous No.212135227
>>212134298
>2024 and 2023 weren't this bad.
Well, yeah because 2024 is one of the best years for horror movies.
Anonymous No.212135249
>>212134698
something tragic happened to that nose under the watchful eyes of a surgeon
Anonymous No.212135259 >>212135283
>>212135223
>Unless you want this to become Terrifier
NTA and I agree it had horror elements, but I would be okay with that.
Art vs M3gan is one of my dream movies.
Anonymous No.212135263
>>212135223
I was hoping they'd release a violent cut of M3GAN 2 but I guess it'd undercut the theatrical release if a better version was coming on VOD.
Anonymous No.212135283 >>212135380
>>212135259
The Pale Girl vs M3GAN, maybe
Anonymous No.212135380
>>212135283
Art and the Pale Girl/Demon vs M3GAN and Sienna.
Anonymous No.212135487 >>212135663 >>212136827
I feel like the anon who told us about The Substance months before it came out. M3gan 2.0 will inevitably become a cult classic like Malignant.
Anonymous No.212135498 >>212135695
>>212134599
>>212135081
Don't get me wrong, the movie was shit, the design was awful and recasting Brad Dourif was blasphemy

But I really enjoyed the angle in the Child's Play remake that Chucky actually loved Andy and considered him his best friend and every brutal thing he did stemmed from that
That little concept by itself feels like it has more substance to it than the real Chucky just being the biggest cunt possible, all of the time, and frankly fucking hating the kid from first sight while concocting an elaborate scheme to troll him to death
Anonymous No.212135663 >>212135702
>>212135487
Dude, you singlehandedly made this well known movie famous!!!!!
Head pats for little Anon!!!!
Anonymous No.212135695 >>212135865
>>212135498
The original concept was that Andy was (unintentionally?) controlling the doll, but they decided that made him seem evil.
His only goal was to find a new body before he got trapped in the doll, so I think the fact he never deviated from being evil or started to like the kid made sense.
Anonymous No.212135702 >>212136827
>>212135663
You clearly don't know what I'm referring to. That's ok buddy.
Anonymous No.212135780
>>212135081
>The scariest thing about M3gan is that no one will ever love you as unconditionally as she loves Cady
feelsbadman
Anonymous No.212135865 >>212135901
>>212135695
>The original concept was that Andy
I have absolutely nothing to back this up but I swear M3gan's screenplay has the remnants of an edgier prior version in it where Cady committed all the murders herself and possibly even kills Gemma at the end
They drop little hints that the kid is absolutely fucked in the head and then they backpedal to she's actually a pretty normal person that's just surviving an incomprehensible trauma
Anonymous No.212135901
>>212135865
>They drop little hints that the kid is absolutely fucked in the head and then they backpedal
There is definitely a subplot in the first movie that Cady might go evil and side with M3GAN. Maybe it went further originally.
Anonymous No.212135988 >>212136061 >>212136277
>>212135219
What is this from?
Anonymous No.212136061 >>212136277
>>212135219
>>212135988
It might be The Incredible Melting Man. Nta so I'm not 100% sure.
Anonymous No.212136165 >>212136235
>>212134407
Together is what i'm most hype for
Anonymous No.212136235
>>212136165
Forgot about that one. Comes out July 30. It's getting rave reviews, I'm slightly skeptical but it will be hard to be bad if Brie gets her tits out.
Anonymous No.212136277 >>212136313
>>212135988
>>212136061
It is. It's a great gooey sci-fi horror
Anonymous No.212136313 >>212136542
>>212136277
I thought so. I watched this and liked it but I don't remember many specific scenes from it. Cool effects.
Anonymous No.212136332 >>212136458
M3gan forcing Gemma to sit through her rendition of This Woman's Work by Kate Bush made me lol
Anonymous No.212136458
>>212136332
One scene that really got me is when Cole wipes his nose with the chloroform rag lmao.
Anonymous No.212136542 >>212136610 >>212150139
>>212136313
>I watched this and liked it but I don't remember many specific scenes from it. Cool effects.
Anonymous No.212136610
>>212136542
It's coming back to me.
One thing I liked was the Melting Man's looping memories of his last moments before he got hit with the cosmic rays. That was really neat and surreal.
Anonymous No.212136638 >>212136885 >>212137019
>>212134698
I love her mouth
Anonymous No.212136827
>>212135487
>>212135702
I remember that anon. In retrospect, he was accurate about the hype it would soon receive but it was annoying seeing The Substance shilled in /hor/ for weeks before it was spammed on /tv/ for months.
Anonymous No.212136850 >>212140923
New /hor/fu
Anonymous No.212136885 >>212137019 >>212137120
>>212136638
Same.
Anonymous No.212136958 >>212136998
For me, it's his friend tracking him down with the Geiger counter, calling out to him, trying to gain his trust and give him some hope
>Steve! Come back, we can help you! Steve, we can give you treatment!
But he knows he's completely fucked either way, there's no fixing him.

I identify strongly with the Melting Man
Anonymous No.212136998
>>212136958
I felt pretty bad for the guy.
Anonymous No.212137019 >>212138198 >>212138345 >>212138553
>>212136885
>>212136638
I love this 4chan meme where we pretend to be pedophiles as a joke
Anonymous No.212137049 >>212137173 >>212137175 >>212137221 >>212140986
Anonymous No.212137120
>>212136885
Imagine
Anonymous No.212137173 >>212137508
>>212137049
There is a fourth Olsen sister?!
Anonymous No.212137175 >>212137336
>>212137049
I'm really starting to think more and more that this movie had the worst trailer/marketing in recent memory because I also hated her doing the most generic "sinister one dimensional villain ooga booga i am le evil" speech possible and then it makes sense and is justified why she talks like that in the actual movie but it must have chased away almost as many people as Hold Onto Your Vaginas did
Anonymous No.212137221 >>212137603
>>212137049
I recognize this chick from the star wars webm
Anonymous No.212137270 >>212137301 >>212137326 >>212137334 >>212137534
Recommend a horror movie or two I can watch right now so I can get weird fucking dreams when I go to bed immediately after.
Anonymous No.212137301
>>212137270
Communion (1989)
Anonymous No.212137326
>>212137270
Phenomena
Anonymous No.212137334 >>212137376
>>212137270
Not to be confused with the other Carnival of Blood
Anonymous No.212137336
>>212137175
The marketing team really did not do a good job this time around.
Anonymous No.212137371
Noko. Make a real thread next time
Anonymous No.212137376
>>212137334
>big as fuck tagline has 3 fonts and split over 5 lines
absolute poster kino
Anonymous No.212137398 >>212137450 >>212137498 >>212137752 >>212137930
Blob 88 is among the peak of 80s horror, so why hasn't it gained the same cult classic status that The Thing has in the last decade or so?
Anonymous No.212137450
>>212137398
Most horror fans love this movie but it's still unknown to normalfags. The Thing benefits a lot from Carpenter's name recognition.
Anonymous No.212137498
>>212137398
It has a couple of terrific equally gnarly sfx scenes but there's nothing in the script that grips as hard as The Thing

The Thing really is a powerful film, having such a strong storyline backed up by so much onscreen spectacle. Most movies only get one of those things, a lot of movies get neither.
Anonymous No.212137508 >>212137603 >>212138252
>>212137173
They made another one in a lab in Eastern Europe.
Anonymous No.212137534
>>212137270
Carnival of Souls
Anonymous No.212137603 >>212137719 >>212137783 >>212137940
>>212137508
>>212137221
If I had a nickel for every time that weird looking autistic bitch from that terrible Star Wars show got a big break playing a sex robot that murders people I'd have ten cents, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice
Anonymous No.212137719
>>212137603
Isn't that the Companion chick?
Anonymous No.212137752 >>212137889 >>212137902 >>212138357
>>212137398
I think the weak parts of it come back to the fact it's a remake of a 50s sci fi (which I haven't actually seen). But actually we can kill it with liquid nitrogen and actually it's a govt experiment doesn't feel as strong now.
I think it would be stronger if it actually was like The Thing... just an outer space blob and they killed it with a firey explosion.
The SFX are still fantastic though. Some of them have so much aggression to them, they are my go to example of how practical effects mog the fuck out CGI.
Anonymous No.212137783
>>212137603
kek
Anonymous No.212137889
>>212137752
>a 50s sci fi (which I haven't actually seen).
Get to it, Anon. I actually prefer the original, just as I do with Invasion of the Body Snatchers. While the special effects aren't as sophisticated (though still very good for the time), the 1950s small town setting, in my opinion, makes for a superior flick
Anonymous No.212137902
>>212137752
The twist is unique to the remake, it's just an alien in the original.
Anonymous No.212137930
>>212137398
For me, it's The Stuff.
https://vocaroo.com/1evEWztzX0j4
Anonymous No.212137940
>>212137603
>edgy teens on an absolute shithole backwater planet in the middle of nowhere waste money or trade favors for cybernetic implants
>to steal water
>instead of leaving
Anonymous No.212137972 >>212137997 >>212138012 >>212138028 >>212138498
Watching Nails on Tubi.
Anonymous No.212137977 >>212138028
>>212134871
Too old.
Anonymous No.212137997 >>212138012 >>212138028 >>212138498
>>212137972
Anonymous No.212138012 >>212138082 >>212138274
>>212137972
>>212137997
Take a screenshot, retard. What the fuck are you doing?
Anonymous No.212138028 >>212138498
>>212137972
>>212137977
>>212137997
kek
Anonymous No.212138082 >>212138131 >>212138221 >>212138345
>>212138012
>IMG
>something something aging
>keking at his own posts
>watching Tubi because he cannot torrent
Guess which retard
Anonymous No.212138131
>>212138082
It's our good friend from Canadastan.
Anonymous No.212138198
>>212137019
It's my favorite maymay
Anonymous No.212138221
>>212138082
What is wrong with Tubi?
Anonymous No.212138252
>>212137508
kek
Anonymous No.212138274 >>212138350
>>212138012
Hes probably watching on a television. I think its cabinanon
Anonymous No.212138340 >>212138367 >>212138386 >>212138429 >>212138500 >>212149187 >>212152875
>Halloween
>Friday the 13th
>Nightmare on Elm Street
>Child's Play
>Hellraiser
Which of these do you think is going to get a new film next.
Anonymous No.212138345 >>212138400 >>212138966
>>212138082
And here I was actually enjoying the thread.

>>212137019
Haha…… right….. King of Comedy coming through right here.
Anonymous No.212138350 >>212138412 >>212138506
>>212138274
Do you actually think people will believe that? You would get a lot of respect and attention if you answered this question honestly.
Anonymous No.212138357 >>212138506 >>212138535
>>212137752
>I think the weak parts of it come back to the fact it's a remake of a 50s sci fi

The Thing is also a remake of a 1950's movie. So is Cronenberg's The Fly.

Main reason why The Blob isn't highly regarded as the other two is because its a comedy horror.
Anonymous No.212138367
>>212138340
Hopefully, none of them.
Anonymous No.212138386
>>212138340
Friday the 13th and Child's Play have films vaguely announced, so probably one of those two.
Anonymous No.212138400 >>212138506
>>212138345
She's got that Spaeney phenotype. Or Spaeney has the 14 year old one.
Anonymous No.212138412 >>212138438 >>212138723
>>212138350
I just thought it was Cabinanons tv
Anonymous No.212138429
>>212138340
I do not know, I do not care, I'm only replying to say that I like your picture
Anonymous No.212138438
>>212138412
>couldn't be honest even once
You are actually trash, I hope you understand that.
Anonymous No.212138498
>>212137972
>>212137997
>>212138028
Namaste. Much seething will certainly ensue which sucks bc this type of trope isn't unheard of in horror movies
Anonymous No.212138500
>>212138340
Hopefully none.
Anonymous No.212138506
>>212138350
>You would get a lot of respect and attention if you answered this question honestly.
He's just gonna reply with six bullshit excuses out of habit LMAO

>>212138357
What's their name again?

>>212138400
True. She actually reminded me of Spaeny that pic.
Anonymous No.212138535
>>212138357
Say her name.
Anonymous No.212138553
>>212137019
Yeah we're really funny guys haha.
Anonymous No.212138723 >>212138840 >>212139080 >>212139083 >>212139119
>>212138412
Cabinanon's not ITT right now you idiot. He's literally the only one here with a trip. Oh my god, just how fucking stupid are you????? I can't stop laughing because it's obviously not even a bit!
Anonymous No.212138840 >>212139080
>>212138723
Yeah right Cabinanon. BTW lose weight fatass
Anonymous No.212138897
>he's completely given up
Anonymous No.212138966 >>212139183
>>212138345
She looked so good there. As a funny joke of course
Anonymous No.212138977 >>212139134 >>212139621
I finished I Walked With A Zombie. Pretty good actually. Mainly atmospheric but it works because afro-zombies are just an interesting topic.
There was some undertones about slavery but what stands out now is more how strongly it seems to condemn adultery. Wonder what people took from it at the time.
Anonymous No.212139013 >>212139406 >>212140367
They were so close to figuring out how beat that guy :(
Anonymous No.212139080 >>212139183
>>212138840
>>212138723
He posts with an iphone too btw
Anonymous No.212139083
>>212138723
>because it's obviously not even a bit!
I used to think it was a bit but he's obviously just mentally ill.
Anonymous No.212139119 >>212139130 >>212139175 >>212139318
>>212138723
This actress..lets just say she didnt she well.
Anonymous No.212139130 >>212139183
>>212139119
>lets just say she didnt she well.
This nigga is so fucking stupid.
Anonymous No.212139134 >>212139249 >>212139621
>>212138977
Based follows-through Anon.
If that was your first Jacques Tourneur movie, check out his other films. He's great for horror, westerns, and noir
Anonymous No.212139175
>>212139119
*age well
Anonymous No.212139183 >>212139275 >>212139412
>>212138966
The freckles are a nice touch imo… sorry, forgot the punchline. We're still joking here right?

>>212139080
That makes three of us then.

>>212139130
Isn't he just the "worse"?
Anonymous No.212139249 >>212139597
>>212139134
Huh I didn't know it was the same director. I love Night of the Demon, it would make my list of "best film endings".
Haven't seen Cat People either so I have a reason to get around to it now.
Anonymous No.212139275 >>212139334 >>212139371 >>212139464
>>212139183
I always knew there were multiple phoneposters and it was hilarious to see them drive hall monitor anon crazy.
Anonymous No.212139300
>>212134201
They're going for a Terminator 2 thing. It might actually work since there's no time travel nonsense
Anonymous No.212139318
>>212139119
>she didnt she well saaarrr
Stop, I'm laugh so hard my stomach hurts again.
Anonymous No.212139334 >>212139595
>>212139275
Literally everyone knows there's multiple phoneposters genius. You fucking retard. It's everything else about your posting that ensures it's you. Including the god damn camera roll numbers.
Anonymous No.212139371
>>212139275
>he's so retarded he didn't realize who he just replied to
I'll leave it up to you to figure that one out, genius.
Anonymous No.212139406
>>212139013
Bleak movie with a to the point pace and no excess of exposition/character development
Anonymous No.212139412 >>212139701 >>212139755
>>212139183
LMAO that pic is hilarious
Imagine wanting to kiss her, so funny
Anonymous No.212139464
>>212139275
It's cute that you had to make up an archenemy to make yourself feel better about the constant insults you receive for being so unintelligent. It's like an abused kid with an imaginary friend.
Anonymous No.212139595 >>212139633 >>212140155
>>212139334
I have been called pissman before. I just ignore and let that retard wear himself out. Always funny when he starts calling others pissman later.
Anonymous No.212139597
>>212139249
>Haven't seen Cat People either so I have a reason to get around to it now.
Anonymous No.212139621 >>212139713
>>212138977
>"Everything good dies here."

>>212139134
Based Tourneurchad, he's actually even better at westerns, Way of a Gaucho and Great Day in the Morning are two of my favourite films, and Wichita is great too.
Anonymous No.212139633 >>212139704 >>212140155
>>212139595
You suck at this, why do you keep trying?
Anonymous No.212139701
>>212139412
Those smaller CRTs making me remember when i played SNES on a 14" tv in my room at midnight with the lights off, good times.
Anonymous No.212139704 >>212140155
>>212139633
Don’t you get tired of this?
Anonymous No.212139713 >>212139746
>>212139621
Dude that was such a good line I actually paused and made a note about it. It'd be a cool snippet to put in a song.
>Everything good dies here. Even the stars.
Anonymous No.212139746
>>212139713
That line has stayed with me from my first viewing of the film like a decade ago, pure kino writing.
Anonymous No.212139755
>>212139412
>they think I'm cute AND funny?
Anonymous No.212139849 >>212139892 >>212140070 >>212140155
>Also a phoneposter
>Also ESL
>Also sometimes mix up 'worse' and 'worst'
Goddamn i hope everybody can tell me apart from this guy.
Anonymous No.212139892 >>212140020
>>212139849
That's motivation to keep your posts high quality.
Anonymous No.212139908
Wanna hear a joke? Cunny was historically used to refer to bunny rabbits. For Vi/Cady, it's pottery in the most literal sense.
Anonymous No.212140020 >>212140043 >>212140155
>>212139892
Ok, I will try my best, hall monitor
Anonymous No.212140022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G38YKnPVqqQ
Anonymous No.212140043
>>212140020
What?
Anonymous No.212140070 >>212140810
>>212139849
I remember thinking you were him once because you misspelled a word more than once during that exchange and I felt so bad afterwards lol
Anonymous No.212140155 >>212140198 >>212140219 >>212140275
>>212139595
>>212139633
>>212139849
>>212140020
>>212139704
Samefag (pissman=hall monitor)
Anonymous No.212140198 >>212140256 >>212140275 >>212140515
>>212140155
Idk if you're Pissfag or some other retard but everyone left on /tv/ is a dumbass.
Anonymous No.212140219 >>212140275
>>212140155
The second and third posts you quoted aren't him.
Anonymous No.212140256 >>212140297
>>212140198
Eh just ignore it. Schizos who get off on samefagging and lying have to be ignored at some point.
Anonymous No.212140275 >>212140351
>>212140155
>>212140198
>>212140219
Stop it already pissman..Go back to talking about 7horror, 80s cock lodging etc etc
Anonymous No.212140297
>>212140256
I try to ignore it but it's becoming less worth it, everyone else is clearly leaving /tv/ and the actual posters here are increasingly talking to the void.
Anonymous No.212140351
>>212140275
Oh of course it's just you. Go to sleep already, it's past four and you have that social studies project due on Monday, remember?
Anonymous No.212140367 >>212140377 >>212148321 >>212150313
>>212139013
Is this a shooter film like Targets or Rampage? Been looking for more of those.
Anonymous No.212140377
>>212140367
Yeah it is.
Anonymous No.212140384 >>212140422 >>212140482
>>212134625
The only good thing to happen in India is a 100MT nuclear blast.
It hasn't happened yet, but I've done my best to encourage it.
Anonymous No.212140422 >>212140584
>>212140384
Pakistan should also be nuked because that's where Lowlifufag is from.
Anonymous No.212140482 >>212140584
>>212140384
What about NPM? Aren't you glad India bestowed him to us so that he keeps contributing to these generals with his insights?
Anonymous No.212140515
>>212140198
The jannies will just ban you if you catch one of their faggot friends spamming their beliefs.
It's far better to call the tranny janny a fag and ignore him.
Anonymous No.212140584 >>212140731
>>212140422
>>212140482
India and pakistan both deserve to have all of the people living there murdered.
No warning.
There are no redeeming features for either country.
Only subhuman animals raping each other.
While that is a thing liberals want, I find it offensive, and I'd rather see the whole country nuked.
Anonymous No.212140585 >>212140947 >>212141299 >>212149340
Is there a horror movie yet out there about inflated grocery prices and inflation?
Anonymous No.212140600 >>212140759 >>212140973
Some day I'll brew my own pumpkin beers with kino Halloweeny labels on the bottles
Anonymous No.212140731 >>212141006
>>212140584
But you'd spare pissman, right? We know how much you look forward to his comments
Anonymous No.212140759
>>212140600
Based
Anonymous No.212140810
>>212140070
It's alright, you didn't have to feel bad.
Anonymous No.212140872 >>212140955
>>212134086 (OP)
Is M3GAN 2.0 really horror? Seems more like a gory action movie.
Anonymous No.212140923
>>212136850
>when Louis CK tries to jerk off in front of the wrong woman
Anonymous No.212140947
>>212140585
Watch a zombie movie. They always have a cathartic "raid the supermarket" scene.
Anonymous No.212140955
>>212140872
The main genre is action but it has some horror elements. Comparable to something like The Guest.
Anonymous No.212140973
>>212140600
I feel like a slasher themed halloween pack would sell.
Anonymous No.212140978 >>212141057 >>212153350
M3gan 2 trailer looks like the creators were heavily inspired by Portal/Portal 2
Anonymous No.212140986 >>212141140
>>212137049
She looks like Hegre model.
Anonymous No.212141006
>>212140731
I don't know who your faggot god is.
But, if he is indian, kike, or muslim, I want him dead.
Anonymous No.212141057
>>212140978
yeah that little robot sound like glados as well
Anonymous No.212141140
>>212140986
Kek, not really.
Anonymous No.212141299
>>212140585
Rampage 2009. Still need to see the sequels.
Anonymous No.212141529 >>212141847
Time to put on TCM and doze off. Goodnight, /hor/
Anonymous No.212141847
>>212141529
>my alarm clock monday morning
Anonymous No.212142654
It's 6:15 AM and the curry stench has now been fully aired out of this thread.
Anonymous No.212142691 >>212143113 >>212148403
>After being torpedoed by allied submarines, a Japanese soldier and a British POW are stranded on a deserted island and soon discover that they’re being hunted by a ferocious mythological creature
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KseRvyYIYr0
comes out next month
Anonymous No.212143113
>>212142691
I don't know why but this feels like a milder version of The Keep to me, the book at least.
Anonymous No.212143168
Is Retribution (2006) scary?
If it is I'll watch it tonight
Anonymous No.212143185
>Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter
>Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday
you know a lot of series have a fake Final film, but you have to give it to F13 for having two of them.
Anonymous No.212143345 >>212147043
I'm watching m3gan right now, I'm 49 minutes in and man this movie is taking a long time to get to the point, which I sort of get what they're going for but I can probably only tolerate for 1 film, is the sequel any faster to start the action I was thinking I might go see it tomorrow
Anonymous No.212143645 >>212143925 >>212145318
unexpected zero budget kino
Anonymous No.212143925
>>212143645
this the new Leaving DC?
Anonymous No.212144156 >>212144734 >>212147251
that one Silent Hill series no one talks about

https://tubitv.com/series/300001825/silent-hill-ascension
Anonymous No.212144660 >>212145723
>28 Years Later
>Megan 2
>both flopping or at most underperforming
What's so hard for them to understand what normies actually want in horror
Even the likes of Terrifier manage to do it
Anonymous No.212144734
>>212144156
>Tubi is the largest free movie and TV streaming service in the US.
>Unfortunately, we're not currently available in your area.
Strange part is they only did that starting a year ago or so
Anonymous No.212145318
>>212143645
Lolno
Anonymous No.212145723 >>212146198 >>212146435 >>212147136
>>212144660
wtf are you talking about? 28 Years already outperformed the first two films
>Even though 28 Years Later had a harsher drop, this follows it earning the best opening weekend of the franchise by far. Therefore, its second weekend's raw total is nearly as high as the original movies' domestic debuts. In fact, it has already outgrossed both those movies worldwide, having reached a global total of $73.6 million as of Friday.
https://screenrant.com/28-years-later-box-office-franchise-worst-second-weekend-drop-record/
Anonymous No.212146198 >>212146924 >>212149367
>>212145723
See if you can spot the problem

Also looking this up for this post, all of them surprised me in some way. I thought Days would have a much higher box office; it's one of those iconic movies everybody on earth has seen. I thought Weeks would have a dramatically higher budget; it's got Hollywood actors and massive fancy action setpieces.

But as a piece of heartless capitalism Years has shit the bed. I also expect Bone Temple to be a disaster simply because I cannot imagine Nia Decosta ever making anything that isn't a disaster, it's like going "I trust Uwe Boll this time"
Anonymous No.212146435
>>212145723
it 100% flopped
Anonymous No.212146924 >>212146982
>>212146198
>its a flop!
>uhh okay its not a flop but it had a higher budget than the previous so the fact that it made more isn't important
??? what are you trying to say here with this random goalpost shift
Anonymous No.212146982 >>212147077
>>212146924
>just because the studio has tens of millions of dollars less than they did when they started because their theater take is nowhere near what it cost to produce and market this movie doesn't mean it flopped
Where's your head at
Anonymous No.212147043
>>212143345
Well at the end it very much justified the slow buildup, it all came together really well in a way that benefited from that slow start, would still want the sequel to be faster though.

Visuals wise I'm not sure the bits with the jerky movement sort of like an exorcism movie quite worked though. Took you out of the scene too much because it looked like it belonged to a different flavour of monster.
Anonymous No.212147077 >>212147141 >>212147166
>>212146982
>no you don't get it, it has to make 20 times its budget to turn a profit
not this shit again
Anonymous No.212147136
>>212145723
It's exceeddingly disingenuous/low IQ not to factor in budget costs in that analysis attempt
Anonymous No.212147141
>>212147077
>I keep asking "what's 2+2" why the fuck do faggot shills keep giving me that "4" nonsense
Anonymous No.212147166
>>212147077
It definitely needs to make more than 13 million if it cost 60+, retard.
Anonymous No.212147251
>>212144156
>2.3 on imdb

hell yeah bby
Anonymous No.212147550 >>212147700 >>212147839
Haha wouldn't it be funny if M3gan and Cady kissed?
Anonymous No.212147700 >>212147839
>>212147550
funny isn't the word I'd use
Anonymous No.212147839 >>212148426
>>212147700
>>212147550
M3gan belongs to Gemma now anyway
They literally shared a nervous system and M3gan physically felt Gemma's vajozzle responding while it was happening
She got all up in her in ways that the world's most hung man couldn't dream of
Anonymous No.212147940 >>212148103 >>212148124 >>212150016
I just saw Dagon last night bros. Fun flick despite it being low-budget. Would stay and fuck with qt crazy tentacle priestess/10.

On the see re-animator and from beyond now.
Anonymous No.212148103 >>212148313 >>212150016
>>212147940
I always wondered how sympathetic she was intentionally supposed to be because honestly she seemed pretty fucking sympathetic, like the movie was going out of its way to portray her as the most lovable possible version of a cannibalistic incest loving devil worshipping fish monster

It sorta makes the bleak ending pay off because it's a happy ending for her, like she's an awful and inhuman Thing but there's no visceral indication that she doesn't deserve to be happy
Anonymous No.212148124
>>212147940
It's a great movie and really captures HP's style. I love all the cool gold props like her crown.
>worship sea demon
>weird gold spirals and tetrahedrons start washing up on the beach
Sinister.
Anonymous No.212148313
>>212148103
I mean didn't she admit herself that she still has human emotions and needs?
Anonymous No.212148321 >>212150589 >>212152216
>>212140367
Not really horror but,
The Sniper (1952)
Three Minute Warning
3 different movies about the Beltway sniper attacks.

More survival horror but there's also The Most Dangerous Game and a shitload of ripoffs.
Anonymous No.212148403
>>212142691
>somebody took the opening scene of Kong: Skull Island and ran with it
Anonymous No.212148426
>>212147839
>They literally shared a nervous system and M3gan physically felt Gemma's vajozzle responding while it was happening
I forgot that detail lmao
Truly bizarre movie, of course some normalfags are crying that Blumhouse would fund something cool and unique like this instead of the typical Blumslop.
Anonymous No.212148686 >>212148734
So what are the reasons for both Megan 2 and 28 Years flopping since apparently it's different reasons, from what I heard
>Megan 2 is more action comedy instead of horror
>28 Years is obnoxious drama for the most part instead of zombies
Anonymous No.212148734
>>212148686
Years making the exact same amount of money as the previous two while costing 4x as much is a pretty brutal error
It's also odd because it was shot on fucking iPhones and I remember Weeks being a fairly sweeping and extravagant movie
Anonymous No.212148817 >>212148874 >>212148905 >>212149431
M3GAN 2.0 was fantastic, anyone who doesn't watch it is a fag. Apparently that's most of you.
Anonymous No.212148874
>>212148817
I'm waiting for the torrent. How long do new movies generally take to get digital releases these days? I've been mostly watching older stuff the past few years.
Anonymous No.212148905 >>212148987 >>212149086
>>212148817
Based and true.
I find it surprising how badly it's performing when the audience reactions have been incredibly positive. Releasing it around all these summer blockbusters in an era where people don't go to the theaters nearly as often was a mistake, as was the bad faggy marketing.
Anonymous No.212148987 >>212149061
>>212148905
I buy into it having the worst fucking advertising campaign of the decade
The big trailers were packed with irksome shit nobody actually wanted to see that in the actual movie either had a totally different context or literally didn't occur
Anonymous No.212149061 >>212149414
>>212148987
>that in the actual movie either had a totally different context
The "hold onto your vaginas" line being in an actually funny scene in the movie shows how terrible the people in charge of editing the trailers did.
Anonymous No.212149086 >>212152275
>>212148905
I think it'll have a decent tail in theaters unless they drop the bluray and put it on streaming in a month or whatever, but it'll do super well on home media either way.
They dropped the first movie in January competing against nothing, they should've just done that again. 2.0 will clear a small profit at the very least.
Anonymous No.212149183 >>212149241
>>212134086 (OP)
Watch Lowlifes
Anonymous No.212149187
>>212138340
>Alien: Romulus
>Predator: Killer of Killers
>Alien: Earth
>Predator: Badlands
>Alien: Romulus 2
Anonymous No.212149241 >>212149346
>>212149183
I will right now
Anonymous No.212149293
>>212134201
Looks more like Spy Kids than any horror movie.
Anonymous No.212149311 >>212149339 >>212149722
What am I about to experience?
Anonymous No.212149333 >>212149416 >>212149453
Did japanese cinema peak in the 2000s?
Anonymous No.212149339
>>212149311
several waifus
Anonymous No.212149340
>>212140585
kind of
Anonymous No.212149346 >>212149380 >>212149391
>>212149241
Based
Anonymous No.212149367
>>212146198
I cannot believe that the second one cost so little, even by the year it was made. it's so small
Anonymous No.212149380
>>212149346
Anonymous No.212149391
>>212149346
I'll be back with a review when it's over. she's cute.
Anonymous No.212149414 >>212149722 >>212154069 >>212154172
>>212149061
I was surprised by how well the Cole character dynamic works

>M3gan cares deeply about Cady, tries her hardest to always be nice to Cady
>M3gan cares deeply about Gemma, is perpetually a bitch to Gemma
>M3gan cares at least a little about Cole, still seems to delight in terrorizing and bullying him relentlessly

As far as switching things up for the sequel I don't think many of us predicted "This guy will become M3gan's #3 favorite person in the world"
Anonymous No.212149416
>>212149333
everything did. music. movies. games. everything
Anonymous No.212149431 >>212149518
>>212148817
M3GAN, the queer icon?
Anonymous No.212149453 >>212149619
>>212149333
name of kinography? also indubitably yes
Anonymous No.212149518
>>212149431
Nothing queer about wanting to protect your waifu.
Anonymous No.212149619
>>212149453
Funky Forest
It's not horror, but it gives off the same vibe as Robo Geisha, Dead Sushi...
Anonymous No.212149722 >>212149828
>>212149311
Kino
>>212149414
>M3gan cares at least a little about Cole, still seems to delight in terrorizing and bullying him relentlessly
That scene where he and M3GAN talk is so funny, and it's also one of the few times in the movie where M3GAN delivers the "horror" element instead of Amelia.
Anonymous No.212149819 >>212149877 >>212149943
Watch Cat People (1982) instead of L*wlifes which is tubi original grade slop.
Anonymous No.212149828 >>212149958 >>212150090
>>212149722
Why would you grab a guy's arm and wake him up just to remind him you're NOT going to murder him
How rude
Anonymous No.212149877 >>212150051 >>212150356
>>212149819
No, I'm going to watch Cat People (1942).
Anonymous No.212149943
>>212149819
No, we don't watch Coalburner slop here.

We'll be watching Lowlifes.
Anonymous No.212149958
>>212149828
she has to assert dominance even if she isn't hostile
Anonymous No.212149976
>>212134086 (OP)
Not horror. Fun movie though. Shame the faggy marketing killed it on arrival.
Anonymous No.212150016
>>212147940
>On the see re-animator and from beyond now.
Those are massively better so if you enjoyed Dagon you'll probably love them.

>>212148103
>a cannibalistic incest loving devil worshipping fish monster
Just my type.
Anonymous No.212150051 >>212150078
>>212149877
I like both of them. And Curse of The Cat People.
Anonymous No.212150078 >>212150188
>>212150051
We like Amanda Fix kinos here.
Anonymous No.212150090
>>212149828
Because.
Anonymous No.212150139
>>212136542
Nooo not Tim Blake Nelson :(
Anonymous No.212150188
>>212150078
Everybody hates you thoughbeit
Anonymous No.212150313
>>212140367
God Told Me To is a classic
Anonymous No.212150356
>>212149877
Elizabeth Russel is my favourite cat person
Anonymous No.212150406
Amanda Fix has a cat
Anonymous No.212150589
>>212148321
*Two-Minute Warning. I always fuck that up.
Anonymous No.212151479 >>212151696
Anonymous No.212151696 >>212151871
>>212151479
Top /hor/kino of the year, alongside M3GAN 2.0.
>b-b-but they're not horror!
They're /hor/.
Anonymous No.212151744
Anonymous No.212151780
I'll take a troll over ai bots any day.
at least the troll is a real person. now in these website you never know who is a bot now
Anonymous No.212151871 >>212153954
>>212151696
it was horrifying
Anonymous No.212152216
>>212148321
For us its Most Dangerous Game (2020) starring Sarah Gadon
Anonymous No.212152275 >>212152326
>>212149086
She is 14 here…yikes, the countdown begins
Anonymous No.212152326 >>212152403
>>212152275
It is going to be insane to see her from a little girl, to teen, to legal adult to walled in a very short time duration.
Anonymous No.212152368
>
By Megan 4.0 she will probably be bogge
Anonymous No.212152403
>>212152326
By Megan 4.0, she will be bogged. Or going to college to race mix.
Anonymous No.212152526 >>212152548 >>212152550 >>212152588
this shit was ass bruh
Anonymous No.212152548
>>212152526
it was kino, you're a fag
Anonymous No.212152550
>>212152526
*kino bruh
Anonymous No.212152588 >>212152832 >>212153052
>>212152526
I can’t believe it is July now and normies look forward to these months. For me, its just another day.
Anonymous No.212152832 >>212153135 >>212153454
>>212152588
Because you're a loser who doesn't leave his parents' house.
Anonymous No.212152875
>>212138340
I give Halloween another 5-8 years before it's rebooted again
Anonymous No.212153052 >>212153481
>>212152588
yeah if only there was some bred-in childhood phenomenon that happened during the summer that made normal people excited about it
as it is, it's completely unexplainable
Anonymous No.212153114
Watching Dunwich Horror because anon reminded me of it last night, thanks anonsama
Anonymous No.212153135
>>212152832
that's right! it's dangerous out there
Anonymous No.212153211 >>212153748
need me a new kayako movie
it's been 9 years
Anonymous No.212153350
>>212140978
her voice was inspire by GLaDOS from portal
Anonymous No.212153416 >>212153845 >>212153863
The cutting scenes are hard to watch despite the fact they're not very graphic.
Anonymous No.212153454 >>212153519 >>212153803
>>212152832
How would that make me a loser? I can go on vacation whenever I want, I wouldn’t need to do β€œfun” stuff during summer. Their β€œsummer vacation” is pretty much my whole life. How does that make me a loser? lol. Almost all people older than me are worthless than me lol.
Anonymous No.212153481 >>212153803
>>212153052
Okay..well, I dont get it. School is fun. Unless youre an adult who still has to work, the summer is w.e.
Anonymous No.212153519 >>212153790
>>212153454
I do all that too, I live rent-free at my grandma's house, I haven't had a job in 10 years, and she pays me 50 dollars every week to do chores once or twice, and I'm the only one who drives her car (which I also don't pay any bills for).
And I'm also not a fucking ESL like you, so actually I win.
Anonymous No.212153692
>>21215351
Top neighborhood? Vcol? sol?
Anonymous No.212153748
>>212153211
the Netflix series isn't bad imo.
definitely better than the recent american remake
Anonymous No.212153790 >>212153846
>>212153519
> Top neighborhood? Vcol? sol?
Anonymous No.212153803 >>212154113
>>212153454
>>212153481
>Trolling outside of /b/
You will take another vacation whether you want to or not, dalit.
Anonymous No.212153836 >>212153932 >>212154041
So, how is your year so far? Here is mine, with horror and adjacent movies.
Best one so far must be Inside.
Anonymous No.212153845
>>212153416
I can't even handle something even touching my wrist. I can't even wear a watch because it grosses me out having something touch that vein
Anonymous No.212153846
>>212153790
what kind of brown people shit are you talking about
Anonymous No.212153863 >>212153947
>>212153416
yeah this movie was made me squirm and yell at her crazy ass. its horror like this that makes horror today feel vain and shallow. its fucking intense. the only real criticism i have for this film is that its a writer actor director credit. her having this fantastical life beside the body horror feels masturbatory to me. the saving grace for that iircwas at least she threw her life away to cut herself to ribbons. that bit where she runs a knife over her eye FUCK
Anonymous No.212153926
Baconating
Anonymous No.212153932
>>212153836
I can't see it on the chart so rec'ing urban legends 2
Anonymous No.212153947
>>212153863
>spoiler
Un Chien Andalou?
Anonymous No.212153954
>>212151871
I love Sarah Gadon
Anonymous No.212153960
Here

>>212153949
>>212153949
>>212153949
>>212153949
Anonymous No.212154041
>>212153836
>REC 3: Genesis
>REC 4: Apocalypse
Kek, the most generic sequel names
Anonymous No.212154069
>>212149414
I think it is funny that Cole's role was definitively bigger than Tess's when they were at the same level previously.
Anonymous No.212154113
>>212153803
That is not trolling. Calm down, I have a hall pass.
Anonymous No.212154172
>>212149414
Also, it was supposed to be an ambiguous scene. Is she fucking with him? Is she sincere? Is she even flirting?

In the end, I do think it was supposed to be a sincere apology while being a little being cheeky about it. The awkward hand thing at the end I think points in that direction.
Anonymous No.212155883
>>212134735
I get this feeling with just about everything that uses any kind of historical fact. The consensus view of a bunch of historical figures is just hollywood bullshit.