A debate between these two would go hard.

>>212134498 (OP)
So I make my bed and then what? Do I cut my dick off??

>>212134498 (OP)
Peterson is so out of his depth when it's about anything other than psychology it's not even funny

>>212134525
How do you define “dick”?

>>212134591
That's why it's so funny when he completely destroyed Destiny in that "debate"

juden perterstein

>do you believe in the Bible?
>the Bible is a hyperlinked library of wisdom across centuries. It’s not a book you simply “believe in.”
>so you don't take it literally?
>literalism is a modern distortion. Stories operate on multiple planes of reality.
>you're avoiding the question.
>i’m challenging its premises.
>are you saved?
>i think the idea of salvation is psychological, social, and metaphysical.
>so you're not saved?
>i'm working on aligning myself with the Logos.
>is that a yes?
>it's a process, not a status.
>do you believe in Heaven and Hell?
>we live them out psychologically. Every day.
>that’s not what the Bible says.
>well, the Bible isn’t a manual. It’s a narrative architecture of meaning.
>are you afraid of going to Hell?
>i’m more afraid of becoming the kind of person who belongs there.
>do you think atheists can be moral?
>hat depends what you mean by “moral,” and whether they're standing on borrowed ethical capital.
>borrowed from what?
>from Judeo-Christian metaphysics. From millennia of cultural evolution.
>so they’re moral, but for the wrong reasons?
>they’re moral, but they don’t know why.
>so you’re better than them?
>no, but I may be more aware of the foundations.
>so why not just say you're a Christian?
>because I’m not willing to trivialize that claim.
Fedoras mad.

>>212135856
Is it not more fedora to twist yourself up in so much obfuscation and intellectual word games instead of merely saying Yes or No? He's going to have to say "yes" or "no" because the alternative way he addresses the question simply isn't compelling enough to people
Whether he likes it or not, this is a genuine problem for Peterson if he wants people to continue listening to him. It's actually been a problem for like 5 years if you've been following him but it hasn't really been highlighted until the recent Jubilee disaster

>>212134699
retreat to your putrid swamp, devil. you anti-semitic drum-beating knave.

>>212136403
He's gone full pseudo-intellectual. I think too many people debunked his earlier ideas and he's afraid of appearing dumb so he pretends he's thinking about ideas and definitions of words on a deeper level than anyone else.

>>212134525
>>212134611
kek

No one actually takes Peterson seriously, right?

>>212136403
>>212136744
People don't realise Peterson's "high verbal IQ word vomit retreat into semantics" is actually him trying to Mr. Miyagi you. He's teaching you the way he thinks rather than a direct answer to a question that isn't actually relevant to improving your life or reaching a collective truth. Showing the process rather than giving the answer.

>"what do you mean by 'believe'?"
>most people don't know what they even mean with the words they use, he won't "answer" because he wants to be genuinely precise with his speech to be in line with the Logos. he understands the importance of language and beleif deeper than most.


I think people take all these categorisations and semantics too literally. he's essetially saying; "it doesn't matter what you TELL yourself you believe, merely by existing and having a basic ethical code, you are unconsciously acting out Christian ethics and stories. God is the interplay between conscience and calling. The act of voluntary self sacrifice can be found in all religions, all the questions you ask as irrelevant to the actual POINT i'm trying to make, you're just trying to gotcha me for youtube clout because you're obsessed with discrediting my character from a preconceived bias woke mind virus."

it's also just temperament and levels of consciousness. like the Dawkins debate. if you don't get it, you just won't get it

>>212135856
>>212136857
YOU ARE NOTHING

>>212135856
>said judeo-christian metaphysics are just hermetic philosophy + kabbalah
when will jews stop claiming things they never truly touched?

>>212136803
He's been kind of a lolcow since the benzo thing

>>212136803
>makes chuds seethe
>makes pseuds seethe
>makes libtards seethe
>makes trannies seethe
More power to him.

>>212136857
Even if you believe that, he word vomits every other topic too, even if it's nothing philosophical like god or religion. At some point you have to say he's purposefully avoiding taking a stance on anything, or is the world's worst communicator

>>212136920
name one thing thunberg was right about

Why would Jordan Peterson debate the police chief from The other Guys?

Why were they so desperate to make him admit he's a Christian?

>>212134525
>>212134611
lmao

Powerful.

>>212137114
He is a Christian, you should be asking why he's so desperate to avoid admitting it

>>212137147
THE INTELLECTUAL DARK WEB

>>212134634
destiny is a complete and utter ugly pedo faggot NIGGER but JP definitely did not destroy destiny in that debate. he came across like a bizarre unhinged villain from Oblivion

>It's actually gay to get pussy

>>212136857
You're reading the tea leaves too hard, he's intentionally vague and your brain is translating that nonsense into profound wisdom when its not

>>212137162
because it makes atheists mad

>>212137147
What do YOU mean by chosen one?

>>212137114
Because he's an atheist LARPing as a Christian to own the libs

>>212135856
Reddit atheists and atheists in general are cringe but Peterson has no idea why and also doesn't care and is an atheist himself. He only defends Christianity because muh le "christian moral values" and "cultural christianity" or whatever they call it now.

>>212137035
>>212137314
You're too low IQ to understand Jordan Peterson, anons. Sad.

>>212137405
>is an atheist himself
Lol

>>212137418
If he's so high IQ shouldn't he be able to communicate his ideas effectively? Rather than using his "intellect" as a shield from scrutiny

>>212135856
>well, the Bible isn’t a manual
It is. If you are so ashamed of literally the most important and sacred teaching in your religion that you lower its importance maybe stop pretending you are Christian

>is a hamburger a predator? Well it's complicated because you can choke on a piece and DIE!
>Starts sobbing at the idea that Israel doesn't have enough happy meals

>>212137499
>If he's so high IQ shouldn't he be able to communicate his ideas effectively?
He does. What part of >>212135856 do you not understand?

>>212137418
That's what pseuds say when they have no counter argument

>>212137504
>It is.
Filtered.

>>212137555
That's very easy to understand that he is refusing to make any claim through sophistry and semantics.

>>212135856
Yeah everyone knows the Bible is a collection of books. Therein lies the problem, it's inconsistent. How can you possit belief in something that is written across centuries, by dozens of writers, with many different values and decrees?

>>212137556
Parroting the idea of "word salad" is something retards do when they're filtered.

>>212137555
If you can't answer a yes or no question concisely, you are not good at communicating your views

>>212137570
>bro I'm christian but I disagree with every second thing christianity stands for and you are filtered if you think that's retarded
yeah alright buddy good luck

>>212137614
Filtered by what? He didn't express any ideas

>>212137597
>Therein lies the problem, it's inconsistent.
You aren't very familiar with ancient texts, anon. You don't think the people who pieced together the Bible knew they put two distinct creation myths right next to each other? Gee, it's almost like you're not supposed to be reading it as if it were a set of Ikea instructions.

Lol, retard.

>>212137044
climate change

>>212137689
more like climate gaynge dumbass lmao

>>212137645
>bro I'm christian but I disagree with every second thing christianity stands for
Who are you quoting, "bro"?

>>212137735
>Using "Machiavellian" as an insult
Sad!

>>212137044
That's just a picture of a Gremlin, anon.
>>212137687
>Filtered by what?
>He didn't express any ideas
Lol!!!!

>>212137771
>Using "Machiavellian" as an insult
>Sad!

>>212137735
I'm quoting a retard who's afraid of vocalizing his own thoughts (You)

>>212137319
seems like it's making atheists laugh

>>212137688
Not an argument. The Bible contradicts itself numerous times. The old testament is full of barbaric rituals, stonings, rules for slavery, war, and death. You can't escape it's old barbaric values. Peterson dodges and moves the goal post by acting angry and saying you don't understand the Bible
No modern civilized nation, employs the old testament. We are better than that old outdated barbaric piece of garbage

>>212137803
>[Ctrl+F]
>[only result is his post]
>I'm quoting a retard
You got that right, lol.

>>212135856
>>>i’m more afraid of becoming the kind of person who belongs there.
>Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
If you've lied even once you belong there anon.
>James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
That's why Jesus had to die on the cross, God wouldn't have done it for no reason. If you're going to go to heaven, it isn't because you've lived a good life, or have behaved better than other people.

>>212137827
the ones debating JP sure weren't laughing
>JUST ADMIT YOU'RE CHRISTIAN YOU OLD COOT MY REDDIT ACCOUNT NEEDS UPVOTES

>atheists are cringe and unhappy and they are immoral deviants
>are you religious?
>no
>so you're an atheist?
>no

genius

>>212137846
>Not an argument.
Yeah it is. Narrative in ancient texts is different than what we have now and you see it in something like the bible (which contains myth, history, and poetry). The fact you're dumb enough to think everyone misses this and it takes an enlightened mind to point it out is a good example of the Dunning Kreuger effect.

You're dumb, anon.

>>212137903
everyone is laughing
he publicly embarrassed himself in those videos

>>212137921
Allegory and metaphor are one thing. Peterson seems to think everyone is dumb enough to think this.
The problem of religion is that they think it happened and is real. You can read the Bhagavad Gita, Greek myth, Shakespeare, etc... without taking it's totality at face value.
About half of the US, rejects

>>212137861
>I was looking if there are duplicates of your post and there are none, therefore you quoted yourself
What are you fucking imbecile?

>>212138025
>About half of the US believes in creationism

>>212138035
Quoting someone would imply the text appears multiple times, dumb dumb. Protip: close your mouth and try breathing through your nose.