Thread 212156551

What's the best Bond Film?
What's the worst Bond Film?

Don't take retarded ahit like "it set the standard at the time" or "what it did for the series" inti account. Just if you have to watch the best one right now, what is it?

Best: Tomorrow Never Dies
Worst: Goldeneye (but tbf, I haven't seen many others)

>>212156551 (OP)
The best Bond film is still Goldeneye.
Goldfinger, Spy Who Loved Me, License to Kill, and Casino are the other actors' best films and theyre all pretty great in their own right, but Goldeneye has them all still beat and there's a bit of a gap even if we're being honest.
Oh, and don't ever let Lazenby Appologists convince you his movie is anything special. It is easily the single most overrated film in the series. The man literally can't act and the screenplay is retarded.
The worst Bond film is Moonraker unless we're counting the unofficial films in which case it's the original 60s Casino Royale.
And just for good measure since I mentioned the most overrated, the most underrated is either Quantum of Solace or Golden Gun. Although /tv/ also will do this thing where they underrate Skyfall a ton because incels think it makes them look cool to hate something general audiences really liked.

tl;dr
Best: Goldeneye
Worst: Moonraker
Most Overrated: OHMSS
Most Underrated: The Man with the Golden Gun

Best: Moonraker
Worst: Octopussy
Tied for Worst: Skyfall (fucking slop shit)

Amazon trying to gin up momentum for their massive turd currently forming.

>>212157005
It will be a remake of Dr. No and everyone will say it's better.

>>212157026
>For Your Eyes Only and Diamonds better than Casino
Holy Contrarian!
>Thunderball in the highest tier
Come on man. Anyone that has Dr. No also that high would be able to see the difference in his presence between the two films. Sean was phoning it in by that point.

>>212156551 (OP)
007 tier
>From Russia with Love
>Goldfinger
>OHMSS
>The Spy Who Loved Me
>Casino Royale

High tier
>Dr. No
>Thunderball
>You Only Live Twice
>For Your Eyes Only
>The Living Daylights
>GoldenEye
>Skyfall
>No Time to Die

Mid tier
>Live and Let Die
>Licence to Kill
>Tomorrow Never Dies
>The World is Not Enough
>Spectre

SHIT tier
>Diamonds are Forever
>The Man with the Golden Gun
>Moonraker
>Octopussy
>A View to a Kill
>Die Another Day
>Quantum of Solace

>>212156551 (OP)
Spectre or The Spy Who Loved Me.

Close contender being The World Is Not Enough.

>>212157194
Quantum is better than everything in your mid tier
https://youtu.be/HJ5EGCxbx1g?si=O3pzCy8nMAdCGFQb

>>212157301
NTA but absolutely not. Even if it wasn't edited like shit it would still be mid.

i never liked bond films because i never understood british "humor"

>>212156883
>Best: Goldeneye
No
>Worst: Moonraker
No
>Most Overrated: OHMSS
Agreed
>Most Underrated: The Man with the Golden Gun
Okay

>Best bonds
1.Connery
2.Dalton
3.Brosnan
4.Moore
5.Lazenby
6.Craig

>Best films
The Spy Who Loved me
GoldenEye
The Living Daylights
OHMSS
From Russia With love

>Best theme songs
Nobody Does It Better
Live and Let die
Diamonds Are Forever
Thunderball
Tomorrow Never Dies

>What's the best Bond Film?
Tomorrow Never Dies
>What's the worst Bond Film?
I don't know and I don't care.

>>212157535
Based

>>212157301
garbage

>>212157390
they aren't comedy movies, retard.

>>212156883
Craig looks so out of place lol

>>212157301
holy soul and kino

>>212157489
Connory in his first 3 is the best but his 4th and 5th films he's just not into it
The Dad bod also doesn't help.
Dalton takes it.

>>212156551 (OP)
There is not a single subject that /tv/ is more all over the place on than James Bond films.
The only consistent trend I've ever seen in all of these threads is that everyone really likes The Spy Who Loved Me, and that they think Dalton should have gotten more films.

>>212157692
He never said they were, moron.

>>212157692
Not that I'd be able to tell the difference.

Tharefore you proved my point. I accept your concession.

>>212157830
i don't give a shit about a single non-brosnan "bond".
he's the only one.

Sean - Based
George - Reddit
Roger - 4chan
Tim - Instagram
Pierce - Facebook
Daniel - TikTok

>>212157921
>i don't give a shit about a single non-brosnan "bond".
That's too bad because two of his movies are pretty bad.

>>212157969
what the fuck does this even mean

>>212157727
At least Craig can act.
Lazenby literally can't keep eye contact with the other person on set.

>>212157834
he says he can't enjoy them because he doesn't get the humor so he clearly expects them to be comedies.

>best
from russia with love
>worst
spectre

>>212158162
A movie can have humour in it and not be a comedy.

>>212158162
>films that have at least one joke are comedies
>likewise if there's a scene of couples kissing it must be a romance film
Dumbass

>>212157692
then explain shit like this >>212158208

>>212156551 (OP)
Best: Tomorrow Never Dies
Worst: Spectre

>>212156883
good post except the part about quantum of solace, it was extremely forgettable and deserves its low rating

>>212158273
obvious pedo-bait.

>>212156883
>Most Underrated: The Man with the Golden Gun
It's really not very good but it does have:
—the best villain performance (Christopher Lee)
and
— the best practical stunt: the twisting car bridge jump. Still amazing. They said they worked it out with a computer beforehand but computers were made of wood in 1974.

>>212157147
>Thunderball bad
I agree it is a bit pedestrian but it has a great main Bond girl (Claudine Auger) AND a great evil girl (Luciana Paluzzi). That's probably why people remember it fondly.

>>212158255
yes but the humor doesn't make or break a film if it isn't a comedy.

For me the best Bond films in no particular order are
>From Russia With Love
>On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
>Casino Royale

As for “worst bonds”, idk I find them all watchable. Diamonds are Forever sucks. Most of the Roger Moore movies suck. Yeah.

>>212158267
go get mad at the autist who made the original comment. He says he can't enjoy them because he doesn't find them funny. They are obviously still good if you don't find them funny.

>>212158660
Also the Tim dalton movies do nothing for me. They don’t even feel like bond with that late 80s-early 90s slick and chique aesthetic. Feels way off

>>212157830
>The only consistent trend
Naa there's lots of things everyone (except for the insane contrarians) agrees on:

— The Spy Who Loved Me has the best pre-credits sequence

— Roger Moore was too old from For Your Eyes Only onwards

— The first girl in You Only Live Twice was better than the second ("main") girl and should have been the main girl

— Jaws was the best henchman

—- Dolly had braces

>>212158792
Jaws is a proto-MCU character
Odd job is GOAT

On Her Majesty’s Secret Cervix is best

>>212156551 (OP)
Best: The Spy Who Loved Me
Worst: No Time to Die

>>212158570
I don't think Quantum is some secret masterpiece. I just think it's more mid or power mid tier. If it wasn't following up Casino and came out as a Brosnan film I think people would not treat it as harshly.

>>212157025
If they want to use one of the original novels they should just do Moonraker, since the film didn't really do the book at all.

It would be easy to update the story for present day (giant industrialist promises to build missile defence system, turns out he's aiming the missile at London / New York / whatever).

They could even make the industrialist like Elon Musk if they want woke contemporary politics points.

>>212158792
Jaws is great in TSWLM but Moonraker turns him into Wiley Coyote.

>>212158998
This. The Moonraker novel is entirely different and extremely kino, one of my favourite novels. It’s just waiting to be adapted properly

>>212158996
>power
lower*

>comfy
Roger Moore
>enjoyable
Sean Connery
>oh yeah, that’s the shit I’m talking about
Pierce Brosnan
>I needed more of this nigga
Timothy dalton
>bourne supremacy editions
Daniel Craig


Cba to rate each movie

>>212159025
It does a bit but I do love Dolly and the redemption arc. Moonraker is a really weird mixture of goofy and serious (girl killed by dogs in forest is about the darkest moment of the whole franchise).

Idk why all you losers pretend to dislike Craig all the time . You doth protest too much

>>212158622
No one said it breaks the movies. If you can't understand too many scenes, you won't enjoy the movie. Classic Bond relied very much on humour, though I disagree with the other guy that it was "British" in some way. Maybe he's just a thirdie.

>>212159355
Craig has 1 great film, but yeah he's fine in the roll

>>212158186
Brosnan's stance will forever reign supreme.

>>212159355
I like him okay but he's admittedly gotten very fruity lately.

He's good as this dysfunctional, alcoholic iteration of Bond who isn't just a complete sociopath.

>>212159565
Well that’s the book bond actually. Craig most resembles the worldweary book bond.

Up for debate but this is what I think

>>212159869
>Moonraker
>exemplified bondness
Bait

>>212159869
Actually a really solid list
I think Casino is suspiciously low and Moonraker is way too high but still overall not bad anon

>>212156551 (OP)
Best: Thunderball
Worst: No Time To Die

>>212159911
It's the pinnacle of Moore Bond, which, if you didn't notice, is a significant chunk of Bond films. To say it doesn't exemplify Bond-ness is silly.

>>212159974
Casino is a brilliant movie right up until the final scenes, at which point it takes a steep nosedive in melodrama and silliness. If they had saved that for the intro to Quantum of Solace it would have easily been one of the best Bonds ever made.

>>212160043
The moore bonds are fucking 1970s marvel movies, they have very little in common with any other bond actors movies and absolutely NOTHING in common with the books, it exemplified anti-bondness tyvm

>>212160117
Anti-Mooretards are the worst people to talk about Bond with. Enjoy being miserable.

>>212160194
Idc if you like moore bond that’s your prerogative but don’t dress it up with some bullshit like it’s the ideal bond when in fact it’s an anomaly

>>212158664
>instruction manuals look just as good as color films
what a fucking idiot

>>212156551 (OP)

OctoPUSSY

>>212157194

You forgot one:

“YOU NEED TO DIE”

Die Another Day is a top tier Bond film that is invariably disliked only by midwits.

Best Bond with Best Bond girl.

>>212160942
It was really fucking fun

>>212160942
>Die Another Day is a top tier Bond film
No.

I can't tell what Brosnan bond flick is what other than Goldeneye

I like Moonraker.

>>212160043
fair enough

>>212162450
Goldeneye >>> Tomorrow Never Dies > The World Is Not Enough > Die Another Day

TWINE is also carried HARD by the opening sequence which is admittedly one of the best in the series. The song also goes hard. Everything after that is hyper forgettable.

>>212162720
>I like Moonraker.
Yeah it's a really great book.
Too bad about the film "adaption"

>>212157026
>>212157194
why do people rate dr. no so high? is it just because it's the one that started it all?
shit's a total snoozefest bro. plays out like a mid tv movie.
i love connery but he only had one great bond film (frwl)

>>212163859
>why do people rate dr. no so high? is it just because it's the one that started it all?
Somewhat. and for that reason it is overrated.
But Commery is fucking killing it in that film as well.
>i love connery but he only had one great bond film
Dr. No is the template for a good bond film
FRWL is the template for a great bond film
Goldfinger is the template for an excellent Bond Film

The Living Daylights is the best
Die Another Day is the worst
I haven't seen any of the Craig ones so maybe they're worse.

thunderball is the worst one and live and let die follows imo. both negro-centric but thats not why they are bad, because dr. no is above them. theyre just mostly boring and i hate to say it because i like yaphet kotto so damn much in almost everything he's in. timothy dalton deserved more and living daylights is up there for me next to from russia with love. i like meself a good east vs. west scenario.

>>212156883
GoldenEye is the most overrated and it's not even close. If there hadn't been a six year gap between License and GoldenEye causing GoldenEye to be the first Bond movie for an entire generation, it wouldn't be regarded so highly.

>>212163859
Dr No is comfy

>>212163449
>It has to follow the book to a T or I don't like it!
Learn to live.

>>212161371
>tfw no russian cutie wife
why even live, bros?

HOLY FUARKING キノ

>>212164858
the problems with Thunderball are well documented
Live And Let Die is one where some people say it's their favorite. and I get it. LALD has a lot of flavor. it's got the most and best henchmen and side characters. but there's also not much to the movie. any time I rank them for a thread, it ends up kinda low because I like almost all of the other ones better.
Thunderball and LALD are fine. They're in the rotation of Bond movies, but every time it's one of their turns I go in thinking "maybe it'll really click this time"
in Thunderball's case I like it a little better because the better you know the movie, the better your mind can impose some structure upon it. It's no longer "Bond hangs out by the beach and eventually saves the day"

>>212165066
>GoldenEye is the most overrated and it's not even close.
Thinknwhat you want about Goldeneye as a movie, but in 2025 it is nowhere near as universally celebrated as it used to be.
I agree the video game is extremely overrated, and I'm a child of the 90s.

>>212165297
Nah Moonraker is just a shit film. It's not just bad as an adaption, it's bad as a sequel to Spy Who Loved Me, and it's bad in a vacuum too.

Mission Impossible ironically averages better

My ranking. Any other ranking is shilling by someone who is a fan boy of a specific actor

The best
>Goldfinger
>thunderball
>Goldeneye

Excellent
>from Russia with love
>the man with the golden gun
>living Daylights
>license to kill
>the world is not enough

Good
>Dr. No
>you only live twice
>on her majestys secret service
>live and let die
>spy who loved me
>for your eyes only
>Tomorrow Never dies

Goofy but fun
>diamonds are forever
>moonraker
>octopussy
>Die Another day

Bad
>a view to a kill

Die Another Day tier (ranked best to worst)
>Spectre
>Skyfall
>Casino Royale
>Quantum of solace
>No Time to die

>>212156551 (OP)
Best film: From Russia With Love - The train scene is Alfred Hitchcock level thriller
Worst film: Spectre - They gone full retard with Blofeld being his half brother
Best Bond: Connery - There's no debate here
Worst Bond: Brosnan - He's a tryhard

>>212167471
>Excellent
>Licence to Kill
lol

it was good actually

>kino
FRWL, Goldfinger, OHMSS, TSWLM, LTK, Goldeneye, Casino Royale

>good
Dr. No, Thunderball, FYEO, TLD

>decent
Octopussy, TND, TWINE

>enjoyably campy
YOLT, Moonraker

>shit
DAF, LALD, TMWTGG, AVTAK, DAD, all the Craig sequels

>>212167988
>>212156605
>>212157535
>>212157547
TND is pretty solid but the villain being an evil news mogul is kinda hard to take seriously. It'd be better if he was an arms dealer trying to start a war to sell weapons for or something.

>>212166650
i find lald amusing. the conflict is very low stakes compared to most other bond flicks. then you have the implication that every black person in harlem was working for kananga, the funeral assassinations, bond literally fucking away the powers from the girl, the papa shango dude jobbing instantly, and kananga's death.
the sheriff char sucks ass tho, but aside from that it's a fun watch.

>>212167799
no way you think craig is better than brosnan or that he is bond at all..

Sooner of later you would think retards would learn that just ranking Casino or Skyfall as shit only makes people not give their opinion any weight.

>>212169922
Skyfall is a film I think is decent as a general action man movie but not as a Bond movie.

>>212169922
Casino is good but Skyfall is kinda retarded.
>bad guy wants to kill M but wants to look her in the eye one last time
>so he launches a convoluted evil plot involving a stolen list of NATO agents to get himself captured so he can look her in the eye one last time, then uses his super-hacker skills to escape so he can enact his real plan to kill M....
>....which is to just walk into a room and shoot her
Seriously, couldn't he have just given her a Skype call and then had a sniper take her out?

>>212169960
>Skyfall is a film I think is decent as a general action man movie but not as a Bond movie.
Bond has no consistent identity. Roger deviates from Sean more than Daniel does from Puerce or even Tim.
But thats besides the point. Everything in Skyfall up until Silva shows up is unironically some peak Bond shit. Silva is just Le Joker so I agree the film as a whole isn't perfect, but the idea that Moonraker or World is Not Enough is a better watch is just laughable.

Best: TSWLM
Worst: literally any of that flamer Craig's movies
For the record, Brosnan's movies were dogshit too, just not in a 'i hate the fans of this series' kind of way that shines through in every piece of the Craig movies
Moore is best Bond and it isn't even close, all of his movies are masterpieces

>>212170005
I didnt imply Skyfall was a masterpiece.
I said ranking it as shit is just an easy way to get written off as being forcefully contrarian. It's still a beautifully shot movie and it's at least a whole tier better than the other Craig sequels and if we're being honest the second half of Brosnan's tenure.

>>212170095
Moore bats 50% at best and that's assuming you can look past him being ancient in View.

>>212170054
Moonraker is just campy as hell; it's fun in the sense that Adam West Batman is.

TWINE has some shit parts (Denise Richards as a world-renowned nuclear physicist and Renard's dumb bullet-brain), but Elektra's a great villain and her evil plot holds together better than Silva's.

Skyfall has better characters, but the central plot of TWINE is better.

>>212170054
I don't like the Daniel Craig films connecting to his past and personal life. They kinda cease being the normal spy Bond thing to me.

>>212169324
I think its really hard for us to understand how new 24 hours live news was

>>212169922
>Sooner of later you would think retards would learn that just ranking Casino or Skyfall as shit only makes people not give their opinion any weight.
Quantum is also ok but yall are not ready for that conversation

>>212169632
I like all that stuff and JW Pepper too SECRET AGENT?! ON WHOSE SIDE?!
but the movie still isn't as good to me as others. maybe it's the aspect ratio. I like the super widescreen ones better.
and regardless, I still watch the movie kinda regularly. I have every Bond movie up through TND, and I watch at least one a week.

>>212156551 (OP)
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

OHMSS would clear if it had anyone other than lazenby in it

>>212156551 (OP)
>best
Goldfinger
>worst
No Time To Die

>>212165297
It doesn’t follow the book at all lol

>>212166426
Goldfinger is always held up as THE James Bond movie. Like if you're only going to watch one, it should be Goldfinger.
But it should be YOLT. Not that it's necessarily the best (I do rank it very high and above Goldfinger) but that it's got it all. Also it's during peak Bond. This isn't the franchise reinventing itself or evolving with the times. This is while Bond was the biggest thing in the world, and was living up to all of its hype. It's especially got all the stuff that "didn't age well" which makes it better and even more Bondy.
It's got Q bringing Bond Little Nelly, and then Tiger has his own "Q" scene showing Bond all the gadgets in his ninja training school.
It's got the volcano lair that younger people will recognize as the Hank Scorpio lair from the Simpsons.
It's got the Blofeld that most resembles Dr. Evil, and all the stuff that you see parodied. And when you see the real thing doing it straight faced, it kicks total ass.

>>212167086
Lol

>>212164224
>rating movies you haven’t seen
Classic /tv/

>>212156605
tnd is underrated. Everyone simps for goldeneye instead. It was the first DVD I ever bought

>>212156551 (OP)
>What's the best Bond Film?

It's a toss-up between The Saint in New York and Thank You, Mr. Moto.

LOL

>>212172428
The Forest Dirtbike scene alone saves NTTD from being 25 out of 25.

>>212172757
>younger people will recognize from the Simpsons.
Holy shit anon how old are you?

YOLT is peak bond, agreed.

>>212156551 (OP)
>Best Bond?
Spy Who Loved Me or From Russia With Love
>Worst Bond?
If we include the Craig era, throw a dart. Spectre, Quantum and No Time To Die are all pretty bad. Sadly, Quantum of Solace might be one of the better Craig era Bonds. Die Another Day actually starts out pretty good aside from the Madonna song. Moonraker and Man With The Golden Gun are entertaining, but not in a good way. Without Craig? Probably Diamonds Are Forever or Never Say Never Again.

The only bad Craig was spectre you guys are a bunch of contrarian faggots literally has the highest percentage of good bond movies since Connery do not @ me

Not even the Connery Simps believe YOLT is peak lol

>>212173357
>Die Another Day apologist
>But Skyfall is le bad
into the trash this opinion goes

>>212173462
I didn't even mention Skyfall. It's fine. I liked it better the first time I saw it though when it was directed by Christopher Nolan.

Moonraker is the worst
>inb4
it's the most retarded by far, if it's so stupid it's funny, then it's a shit bond film

>>212173503
>I didn't even mention Skyfall.
>"If we include the Craig era, throw a dart."
Kill yourself. If you want to be contrarian, talk up View to a Kill, or Golden Gun. Talk uo Lazenby.
But the whole "h-he's just n-not B-B-Bond" meme is stale.

>>212173509
this
Moonraker is actually just a really bad movie.
The people that defend it are like the same people that defend Tron 1.

>>212173552
Okay jackass, what I obviously meant is that those 3 Craig era movies are my least favorite.

>>212161872
Die Another Day is great as long as Halle Berry isn't on screen, she drags the whole movie down.

>>212173017
I'd rate it barely above Spectre because that movie almost put me to sleep.

Goldeneye is actually really boring. The tank scene was alright. It only gets it's praise because of the game (which was better on all fronts, especially the soundtrack). Liking Bond in 2025 is pretty gay.

Bond.. Bond had a hard life…

>>212174171
Lazenby really deserved one more movie, specifically Diamonds should have been the revenge movie we eventually got with Dalton.

what's /tv/'s favorite Bond vidya?

>>212176621
Nightfire and The World Is Not Enough on N64

>>212166995
>it's bad as a sequel to Spy Who Loved Me
kek, look at this retard

>>212161371
>>212163418
Kill yourself

>>212157194
>Spectre above anything
Other than that good list

>>212163418
>Everything after that is hyper forgettable
>Hyper
Wrong, there's Zukovsky and the russian casino, there's the gas pipe shenanigans, Renard fight in the sub, that's about it to be fair
Same level as TND, DAD is an easy bottom but the first 15 minutes can be remade into something watchable. Shame Michelle didn't want to reprise her role in the HK hotel.

>>212166973
Shit taste bro, go to sleep

>>212170176
>Skyfall has better characters
Wrong, Moneypenney is not a nigger.

>>212176621
Goldeneye, no rival to this day
Nightfire is good, the multiplayer is way better than Goldeneye's but the story mode isn't as good nor memorable, same with the admittedly decent soundtrack.

>>212157026
Wait, hahahahahaha
Wait. I acutally thought there were 3 Craig movies.
There's fucking 5? What the fuck is No Time to Die and Spectre?
I thought the homosexual said he was done like 4 times.

>>212178681
>What the fuck is No Time to Die and Spectre?
Don't bother. They aren't worth watching on Pluto for free.

>>212163418
>TWINE is also carried HARD by the opening sequence which is admittedly one of the best in the series
It's really dragged down by Denise Richards' off brand Lara Croft character and the guy who will die randomly eventually because he got shot one time. The ending is pretty lame too, it's just two wet guys punching each other with pipes in the background. What saves the movie from complete mediocrity is the bait and switch with the chick villain when you watch it for the first time, and the BDSM torture scene.

>>212158608
I love Thunderball for tropical vacation vibe. It's exotic, hot in all senses (weather, chicks), with classic villain and Bond.
Last 20-30 minutes are sleep inducing but I never turn off TV if it shows Thunderball.

>>212179052
Thunderball is great. It was my Grandfather's favorite. The blue screen at the end on the boat windows with the ocean stock footage shaking violently makes me laugh every time though.

>>212156551 (OP)
Favorite Bond movies per actor:
>Connery: Dr. No and From Russia With Love.
>Moore: The Spy Who Loved Me and Live And Let Die.
>Dalton: both are probably my favorite Bond movies overall.
>Brosnan: Goldeneye and The World Is Not Enough.

Craig and Lazenby movies I just don't like. Casino Royale was passable but that's it.

Most hilarious thing about YOLT is Bond is instantly recognized after his transformation and still keeps the fisherman facade and goes "married"

so are the ian fleming's novels worth a read? there's always dudes who bring them up in bond threads
i understand book autism for something like lotr or dune, but bond? dunno just seems like pulp.. which isn't a bad thing if it's reh tier, but still