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Reminder that this is when Chrissy decided to flip

>>212172469
he never flipped but i'm sure the thought crossed his mind

>>212172565
>he catch the subtext
he flipped

>>212172081 (OP)
I have no sympathy for any mobster in the show.

>>212172625
Nope. Closest he came was with Adriana but obviously you know how that turned out.

>>212172738
>My name is Clarence!

>>212172081 (OP)
I saw this on Law and Order SUV

>>212172081 (OP)
>IM...LE ACTING

>>212172081 (OP)
They got nothin

>>212172758
>Nope.
why do you think he was wearing the hat?

>>212175217
His gead felt cold

>>212175258
My drug addict friend from high school said something similar when he finally got a job and moved out at 25.

>>212175217
an attempt to look more "put together" when he's drugged out to hell. also Tony gets annoyed by anything Cleaver related

>>212176474
He wasn't wrong

>>212174547
>I DON'T KNOW WHAT ACTING IS
>I MAKE A SPECTACLE OF THIS FACT CONSTANTLY
Go take your lithium, fatass.

>>212172625
>subtext
There is a very strong possibility he flipped with lots of clues. I like this theory more than most.

>>212172081 (OP)
Good thread, but you gotta' get over it.

>>212176989
stupid theory. they would have shown the FBI agents frustrated or something

>>212172081 (OP)
Fucker deserved it and was probably going to flip.
Tony did nothing wrong

>>212178525
i guarantee he would have killed himself from drugs before flipping. even busted for drugs i don't think he would have

>>212176474
Some people actually enjoy the 8-5 grind, some can't function in it and die at 40 from drug abuse.

saar's thread

>>212172738
>>212174439
Fuck you Jamal Ginsberg, you ain't shit nigga.

A mole on her ass?

>omg chris is such a relatable character, he's so depressed and sad and stuff
>ok so he's in the mafia and routinely ruins peoples lives, kills people, beats his (whore) gf but he's handsome so omg he's literally me ;_;

never understood why people simp so hard for this faggot, he's one of the most unlikeable people on the show

>>212172081 (OP)
Fucking finook can't handle a few jokes.

>>212180446
Real lack a standards, this thread

>>212180480
>never understood why people simp so hard for this faggot
Because he's literally me.
>he's one of the most unlikeable people on the show
So am I, in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCMPryaniN0

>>212172081 (OP)
why did he become such a bitch?

>>212174511
>larr and orda the suv

>>212178522
They would have shown your sisters cunt but they dident

>>212180480
>he's handsome
>emoticon faggot
90s born queers were a mistake

>>212175217
He’s wearing a hat in his first scene

Did Adriana fuck Tony?

>>212180480
>>212181891
Because, retard zoomers, he is the most sympathetic character on the show by a mile. Everyone else has already given their soul to the mob, with Chris we see the process

https://youtu.be/77bEGb95E14
https://youtu.be/qvY3ZdX0jMc
https://youtu.be/hIzG0hRNpqk

You have to be touched in the head not to realize those scenes all have the same point… Chris could have been a decent, smart person but he instead chose the mob. Just like Tony who sees himself in Chris whom represents degradation

>>212183372
No but she would have if he had made a move.

>>212184605
>decent
Chris is an absolutely lowlife who is constantly beating the shit out of Adrianna in between shooting heroin
>smart
Hes a retard, we see his script and its sub-literate, his only cultural and historical knowledge comes from movies. He thought the Cold War was made up

>>212180591
that song goes hard

>>212172625
he manuged to stay loyale to his capo, the feds never got the drip on him

>>212185278
Beating your gf/wife is italian culture

>>212183360
He only ever wore a cap in he pilot and then never again until his last scene. So it's significant that he'd be wearing a cap in the same season they make a big deal about baseball caps being secret recording devices.
>>212172469
This makes sense because they make a big deal about baseball caps in S6. However, Chase is not the "leave subtle clues to foreshadow a grand payoff" filmmaker. The show is inconsistent with tons of retcons, dubbed lines, dropped plots, etc throughout. Yet people believe he randomly became Kubrick S6. There are tons of weird moments where the camera fixates on something that end up being inconsequential and rarely talked about. There are also contradictions of widely believed clues throughout that are also ignored.
What happened is he put a ton of red herrings in the last season to make people come up with theories and create buzz around the show. He then teased/played along with the most popular theories years after the show to keep people discussing. It was a genius marketing move by Chase that continues to work to this day. People only ever consider a handful of red herrings when discussing their theories about what happens off-screen and ignore all the others, and even ignore moments when those perceived foreshadowing scenes are contradicted a couple of episodes later. He didn't know what happened in the show himself until he saw what people wanted to believe the most.

>>212181878
Ooh!

>>212185278
>He thought the Cold War was made up
The Cold War was so long ago, it might as well have been a movie!

>>212181159
he wasnt cut for mob life, and his inadequacy just made it worse for everyone around him. he started doing drugs to cope

>>212175258
>>212176474
I am not a drug addict but this shit is so fucking relatable

He never flipped but he was probably close to it around the time when he died as Tony and everyone started treating him like shit and constantly tempted him with drugs and alcohol.

>>212172625
>he flipped
You know the baby's car seat? A giant tree branch came in through the window and demolished it

S6 Tony is a piece of shit due to how disillusioned he becomes with the possibility of having Chris relay his order after the Adriana mess. He didn't trust him enough to risk his revenge, plus his addiction made him unreliable. When he thinks to do the same with Bobby, the Monopoly incident happens, due to his lifelong grudge with Jannice. Therefore, he starts feeling more and more isolated, doomed and starts coping with gambling and becomes harsh and outright disrespectful with his men. Even if he survived the shot and promised himself to enjoy life, he feels like the clock is ticking and can't but stare into the abyss that is the end of previous bosses.

Thanks for reading my essay

>>212178383
>you gotta get over it
I guess you could call that a meme

>>212175258
So true. Get up. Go to work. Go home. Eat dinner. Work out. Weekend. Do chores. Visit friends. Go out to eat. Back to Monday. Go to work. Go home. Eat. Few times a year go on some vacation. Then go home and go back to work.

Repeat for 50’years.

>>212186443
>We're already in the 21st century though, T
All the Chrissy deconstruction is for naught when omitting that this is when it was over

>>212186443
>the Monopoly incident happens
bobby should have gotten killed right there
dont think you can assault the boss for no reason

>>212186575
Incident? INCIDENT!?

>>212186606
the beating

>>212186575
Tony doesn't have that many men, the Sopranos mob is outnumbered by the new york mobs 100 to 1.

>>212172081 (OP)
CHRIS-TUH-FUH

>>212185872
Chris flips and the Cleaver hat, which represents Chrissy’s betrayal of Tony, is just the tip of the iceberg. What is Chrissy playing before the car accident? The soundtrack to The Departed. What is that movie about? Why does Chrissy keep turning the volume of the stereo up when Tony starts talking business? Why wouldn’t Chrissy flip at that point? He very likely got caught with drugs like Big Pussy.

>>212172081 (OP)
Me driving to work

>>212186575
I think Tony realized he was a bit out of line. He was also probably kinda impressed he got his ass kicked.

>>212186730
that animal bacala

>>212186911
I agree, it's highly conspicuous. Yet there's no evidence Chris ever trafficked drugs like Pussy, or that he was ever contacted by authorities to become an informant. This was yet another tease in S6 to make you think something was happening which never gets confirmed or resolved. Just like when the Frenchman tore off a piece of Bobby's shirt. People give meanings to these scenes because they're highly conspicuous, yet there's no substance to those theories. Inciting this type of speculation was Chase's way to make the show end with a huge bang and live on in discussions years after its end, which it certainly did.

>>212172625
>subtext
Media literacy

>>212172081 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aC4bLmTw9o

>>212185278
This. Chris is a piece of shit.

>>212186994
Bobby's the only guy he fights that's bigger than him

>>212178522
We needed more scenes with emo AJ and his nuthouse girlfriend.

>>212187144
>>212185872
Good effort post and analysis getting to the heart of the issue

>>212187144
One thing Chase does with The Sopranos is use mob movie references to leave clues for the viewer. For instance, when Tony dies in the final scene, he dies in the exact same fashion as the execution in the restaurant in Godfather 1. And, of course, there are a ton of references to Goodfellas as well. The Departed references in that final scene are fairly explicit. But anyway I don’t know if it even matters if Chris flips, what Chase REALLY wanted his to see is Tony is fucked no matter which way he turns. If Chrissy didn’t flip, well, Carlos did (for drugs), and he’s made enough enemies in NY to be taken out by just about anybody.

>>212186443
the whole point of season 6 is Tony finally realizing his father did far more damage to his life than his mother ever could have.

>Was Chrissy a rat?

What difference is that information gonna make in my life? So I shut it off.

>>212187531
his father
He said he was proud of him once. Fuckin' prick.

>>212172081 (OP)
Boring retards addicted to quick dopamine hits. Get a real hobby

>>212187488
>Implying Tony didn't dodge the bullet Matrix style and kill the guy then go back to eating with his family

>>212186523

My work commute is an hour each way. I still work on plant id during the week after work, play pickleball with my friends , go for a run now and then, try new recipes for dinner.

On weekends i go shooting, fishing and hunting in season. Thats on top of foing laundry groceries and some cleaning

>>212187531
>muh whole point
low iq detected

>>212187883
Tony Blundetto ovah here

>>212187488
>when Tony dies in the final scene, he dies in the exact same fashion as the execution in the restaurant in Godfather 1.
That scene is confirmed to be Tony's all time favorite scene, and Tony was obsessed with movies, always watching old movies at home.
The last scene is the biggest red herring of all. Tony teleports to his seat with the jukebox music playing uninterrupted and then eats onion rings which he can't for medical reasons. The diner is full of old film archetypes like the random table of boyscouts, a stereotype 1980s movie mobster, hopelessly in love couple, and stereotype urban gansta thugs. This is because Tony's head is filled with movie and media references.
Then the outdated stereotype mafioso goes to the bathroom to act out Tony's all time favorite Godfather scene. Obviously all these things go ignored by most viewers who only fixate on the few red herrings that support the mainstream theory, which Chase only teased as being accurate years after it became accepted.

>>212188234
Which conclusion do you draw from this then? It was a dream?

>>212188892
That S6 is full of fakeouts like that because Chase wanted viewers to come up with the ending for him. After the discussion was settled for years, he started teasing the mainstream theory as being accurate in interviews. The thing is Chase was never Kubrick. The rest of the show does not involve subtle foreshadowing and symbolism leading to a payoff. Yet S6 is seen as that. But most of its red herrings go ignored, only a few are held up as clues.

What's the deal with this guy? Existential crisis?

Guy wrote a couple pages and thinks he's Franz Kafka.

>>212186523
Why the random pic of Padma? She’s hot but wtf, trying to doxx yourself?

>>212188234
The final scene is Tony in hell. Remember that Christopher described it as seeing your own death over and over again which is why you see Tony at the table from his POV at the door and he gets shot at the 3:00 position from the bathroom when it goes black.

>>212189257
He tried so hard for the approval of Tony and even got his gf killed to just be ridiculed and disrespected constantly

>>212188234
I think you’re saying we are seeing his imagination, which is an interesting thought. But as someone else pointed out, we see the final scene from Tony’s perspective, same as the very first scene in the series, the clues go all the way back to the very first scene that he dies. It’s suggested Paulie will betray him as early as season 3. Etc. all the clues are there.

>>212176474
I though work was hard but after getting two kids I look forward every wage slave day.

>>212190522
Chase did not plan the ending from the start. The show is full of retcons, dropped plots, random characters appearing, and other shit suggesting there was never a vision of what the end was supposed to be. All the red herrings start in S6 when he knew it was the last season. I am not saying the last scene is a dream, but that he dropped hints toward that conclusion just as he dropped hints toward many others. You're saying Paulie betrayed him but others think it was Patsy because of the way his wife pawed at Carmella's china (another red herring)
>we see the final scene from Tony’s perspective, same as the very first scene in the series,
The shots of Tony's face to his POV are actually more consistent with other dream sequences in the show. The real life scenes rarely use that device but dream sequences are constantly set in that paradigm.

>>212172469
>fiancé asks him to flip
>has fiancé killed
>but apparently already flipped episodes before because of mean jokes
come on now.

The whole
>Christofur flipped
shit is so stupid. His crucial character flaw is that he continues to go along with this life despite having every reason to get out of it and never really having the ability to succeed anyway. But the regularness of everyday life was too hard her him, so he never leaves.

It's basis for his character. Stop with the EVA tier theories.

>>212191036
He was close to flipping when he died, he was running off at the mouth to that script writer guy saying all sorts of shit about how he could ruin Tony right before that.

>>212172625
>>he catch the subtext
is this pajeet tier english or just zoomer vernacular i'm not aware of? like a new form of nigspeak where its deliberately wrong?

>>212191802
>He was close to flipping when he died
I somewhat agree. If he had lived, there was a chance. But also, the druggy life style is usually to fuck your life up until a point where you think you fucked it too hard, then just accept your life is shit and there's no recovering. For Chris, that was killing Adriana. There's no way he would've flipped after that. That was his
>this is my life and what I deserve
moment. He would never have actually flipped, but he sure as hell was regretting not going for it.

Point is though, he never did flip, so the theories are so frustrating. It's one thing to have him think about flipping, another to say there was a wire in his hat when it makes no sense outside of 'another character had a wire in a hat, so all hats are wires now.'

>>212184605
He's sympathetic for evil kikes maybe. Frankly, watching Sopranos makes me want to hang the entire cast of characters.

>>212175258
you know what always cheers me up when I'm feeling blue? Listening to some Visiting Day
MEOW!

>>212192965
Dude, they recorded in Denmark

>>212192965
for me, it's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2IPiB77U8

>>212188234
This is just a general summation of the series. Tony and his guys are all obsessed with mob movies and cheesy imagined ideas of what America means. But instead of working hard and plying a trade like their ancestors, they all sit around on their asses being stupid parasites, occasionally having to rough up or kill someone. Tony wanted to be like the cool slick gangsters from the movies, conveniently forgetting those guys mostly die violently or isolated and forgotten in their old age. Or he imagines hes a cool tough guy like his dad, forgetting his dad was also a tremendous piece of shit and who'd have wound up just as pathetic as Uncle Junior had he lived.

>>212186730
it was a sucka punch
ya know if it was a fair fight Tony woulda won easy