Thread 212172783

Vash Edition.


Previously: >>212153357

Play nice, everyone. That's not too much to ask, is it?

Gul Dukat did nothing wrong.

>>212172783 (OP)

>>212154634
>Maybe the ashkenazi ferengai

The kike equivalents in Star Trek are the Founders. The dominion is global ZOG. The Vorta are low-level jews/effeminate liberal bug men. The Jem'Hadar are the drug addicted shitskin minions unleashed on western civilization.

>>212173585
Yes.

>>212172982
He was good up until that pah wraith shit.

>>212173880
Why didn't the Dominion execute him for collapsing the wormhole which is basically the only link to the Gamma Quadrant?

There are so many bad episodes of TNG for real. I'm gonna have to take a break after this before VOY & ENT. Most of TOS & DS9 was better than most of this.

>>212174382
Most of TNG's filler are in Seasons 1, 5 and 7 is probably the worst. In a lot of season 6 episodes you can tell Sir Patrick Stewart is completely checked out too. Season 2 of TOS has a lot of weird episodes too though, and season 3 speaks for itself despite a few standouts like Tholian Web or the one were Spock gets Romulan poon.

>>212172783 (OP)
This is the most unhinged episode of TOS so far
Spock is like a cartoon character and almost dies like five times and nobody cares, there's exploding rocks everywhere, half the away team dies and Chekov tries to make out with the Yeoman who throws around 6 foot tall jungle men
I laughed my ass off when the guy runs through the jungle like a five year old and steps on the exploding rock
This is why they need the Prime Directive

>>212174749
Need some webms

>>212172904
Starfleet is a military organization and conflict is what they do best. There is no playing nice.

>>212174749
>>212174979
Spock gets spiked

>>212176251
Spock gets struck by lightning

>>212176329
Spock gets his rocks off

>>212172904
I like /trek/

>>212176390
This guy

>>212176416
Spock gets blocked

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS

I think holographic technology is a can of worms. When you make a new proper trek show set in the 25th century there is no reason not to have holograms everywhere.
>holographic tricorder
>can morph into a medical tricorder or a phaser, a phaser rifle, a padd etc.
>holographic uniforms that can become pressure suits or environmental suits or camo
>holographic interiors
>holographic labs or sickbays where the equipment can appear or change to whatever you need
>holographic doors/walls

>>212176755
>holographic uniforms
>walk around naked jerking myself off
>holo projector makes it look like I have a full head of hair

>Chakotay almost fucked a member of species 8472
Why was I never informed of this!

>>212178065
Heya-hoya heya-hoya I beseech the Great Spirit to make Seven show me her big titties

Is it ever explained how Chakotay and Nog managed to find the same planet that Kirk fought the Gorn on in the Delta Quadrant?

>>212180087
The Pinewood species that made Kirk and the Gorn fight just happened to send them to the Alpha Quadrant on planet California.

>>212178065
>Tfw no hot MILF species 8472 seductress hitting on me.

>>212180087
Hodgkin's Law of Parallel Planetary Development is literally taught in Astrotheory 101

>>212176755
If anything goes wrong. And power to the holo-emitters goes down. Then your control of anything goes away. Can't steer the ship because helm controls just disappeared. Everyone just plopped down onto the floor because their chairs disappeared.

I can't stand Chakotay's actor usually. The only two times I thought he was tolerable was Eating Raoul and Night of the Comet.

>TOS
>TOS Films
>TNG
>DS9

All the Trek you need, anything afterwards is abysmal dogshit.

why do they call it the romulan neutral zone when it's more like a DMZ? neutral zone to me would imply a region that anyone can navigate.

>>212181571
the neutral zone doesn't really make sense, the romulans are allowed the federation are not, not realy neutral is it

>>212181723
The Romulans aren't allowed there either, the Federation are just bigger doormats about them violating it

>>212181920
no the romulans are allowed to seize any federation vessel that enters the neutral zone they say as much multiple times in tng when the enterprise violates the zone

Isn't there more than one neutral zone tho?

>>212182327
theres the cardassian dmz

>>212174749
I always refer to this one as “The sunburn aliens episode”. It’s a good example of Kirk believing he’s doing the right thing, when he’s probably causing more harm than good.

>>212176251
>>212176329
>>212176390
kek based Spock

Gotta love the Spockster baby, you just gotta!

>>212175641
Starfleet is about exploration. Military operations, and conflict, is only as needed.

>>212176755
There was an episode of "Other Space" that explored this question. One officer had to wear her eyeglasses again; one spoke Uzbekh for the episode & no one could understand her.

>>212178516
So mote it be!

>>212182721
other space is what orville wishes it could be. shame that had to be a yahoo production. never had a chance

>>212182383
kirk absolutely did the right thing. those people werent living.
at least the amish aliens in insurrection had a choice

>>212183236
At least we have it. Seeing Joel Hodgson and Trace Beaulieu on TV again made it all worth it.

>>212176416
Goddamn that's actually a beautifully shot and really impressive practical effect for its time

Probably dangerous as fuck too

>>212176444
Spock gets stunned so hard he turns into Professor Snape on the ground

>>212176251
>>212176329
>>212176444
Good thing Spock is indestructible. I remember another episode where he gets stabbed and it doesn't matter. McCoys just like "well it's a good thing his heart's in a weird spot"

the suffering of miles obrien

>>212183775
But wait there was that other episode where Kirk bring a dumbass causes Spock to get shot and he does almost die

>>212183775
>spock gets blinded
>well its a good thing he has a second set of eyelids

>>212183996
that should have a 4th panel of kieko screaming at him

>>212184030
no its even more stupid than that, the 2nd eyelids that he somehow didn't even know he had made him think he was blind

>>212184099
oh right, lol
Sarek: this is my son spock we've educated him wrong, as a joke

>>212180310
hey thats Saul's wife, Ellen, on BSG. actress is the daughter of Paul Vernon, a prolific actor back in the day

>>212184122
Sarek is the Vulcan equivalent of Ben Franklin, if Ben Franklin liked to fuck orangutans instead of French whores. And then Ben Franklin married an orangutan and had a half-breed Orangumerican who lived in constant pain between his two halves (Founding Father and Orangutan). And then every time there was a space crisis, the Federation and the Vulcan High Council would say, "yeah send that orangutan fucker Franklin and his orangutan wife to go solve the problem, and make sure he doesn't acknowledge the half-orangutan first officer as his son."

>>212184701
>the deranged post of a Nu Trek viewer
Fascinating.

Are they called Bolians because they look like bowling balls?

>>212184701
>>212184796
I didn't have a picture of Mark Lenard handy. Now I do. Accept this as the new picrel about that orangutan fucker Sarek.>>212184701

>>212183996
2>1>3

arrr thee wolcan orrr arrr thee humonn?

>>212172783 (OP)
Why were the guest actresses so much better than the regulars? Like imagine her as Beverly and Famke Janssen as Troi.

That guy asked Worf if he had ever pursued a Klingon woman and he said no. What about the you know MOTHER OF ALEXANDER?

>>212184903
She was a half human humaboo

>>212184896
fun fact patrick stewart cheated on his wife irl with her

>>212184903
>>212184913
not only that she rejected klingon customs and refused to larp as a samurai viking with them

>>212184913
interspecies breeding is blasphemy and haram

With the viewing guide I'm doing, Worf singing Klingon Opera directly followed the Doctor's first opera episode. Weird synchronicities.

>>212184913
>>212184937
Yeah but they definitely mated like Klingons in the holodeck. He definitely knew about Klingon women so the writing deficiency in this DS9 episode still stands. Half Klingon or not. Can we also just take a moment to appreciate that actress again? I preferred her as the really tall Vulcan medical officer.

>>212185070
>That guy asked Worf if he had ever pursued a Klingon woman
the answer is no and that is correct

>>212185070
She nailed it in all her roles

>>212184701
Why is it so hard to find chain smoking Jewish actors to play Vulcans these days?

>>212185070
shes great as selar

>>212185097
I don't feel like arguing but I don't think you're correct. Half Klingon is Klingon enough for Hitler after all.

>>212185142
the key word is "pursue" worf has never done that even though he fucked khleyr, its an honest answer even if worf had courted khleyr its not the same because she doesn't behave like a klingon

In Trek News, apparently Dunston checked out in 2010 and this is why Mia Kirschner's giant khazar milkers were cast as Amanda Grayson for STD/SNW.
RIP Dunston, you were the John the Baptist to Harambe's Jesus Christ.
https://centerforgreatapes.org/orangutan/sammy/

>>212184796
>anyone i don't like is a nutrek viewer

well?

Is Brave New Worlds watchable or is it nutrek garbage?
I saw a single clip and it looked OK, even though there were two niggers on screen. But its associated with STD, right?

>>212185314
>how dare you call someone using a nu trek image a nu trek viewer!
Are you perhaps blind, illiterate, or retarded? All three? Must be a Nu Trek viewer.

>>212185340
selar

>>212185340
Vulcan>everything

>>212185341
No, it's complete utter reprehensible garbage-tier shit. If STD is a 2, SNW is a 2.5. And that's just rating them both on a "science fiction show" scale -- neither are Star Trek, neither have the military professionalism, the focus on tight storytelling, neither of them are particularly well-cast or well-acted.

>>212185340
Selar.

>>212185340
Selar, no contest

>>212185341
It shakes off STD as quickly as it can.
At its best it feels like early season Stargate or good Buffy, it's goofy and plays with genre. At its worst it feels like late season Stargate or bad Buffy. (ad astra is a stinker). Some people dislike the genre play (crossovers, musicals) im personally ok with it. What irks me is that it's the only trek that actually adapts real scifi stories (le guin, etc) but won't credit them. They want to be sexy so they have a thing between Spock and Chapel. Which means they're, imo, a separate canon or trying to soft retcon all of TOS.
Bottom line: you'll probably like some and hate some of it, it might be entertaining but it's a different mood/tone/"vibe" than TOS. act accordingly

>>212185341
Strange New Worlds is the best nutrek but that isn't saying much.

STD is awful. SPIC1 and SPIC2 are awful. SPIC3 is only "watchable" because it's nostalgia bait that somewhat removes the bad taste of SPIC1/SPIC2. It would be better if the entire show never existed.

I'd put SNW between VOY and ENT. It has some of the old school planet of the weak and exploration stories and not too much melodrama.

If I had to rate them all it would be
>TOS 8
>TNG 9.5
>DS9 10
>VOY 5
>ENT 6
>STD 0
>SPIC S1/S2 -99999999999999999
>SPIC S3 3
>SNW 5.5

>>212185343
>how dare someone just randomly binging an image and picking the first search result be an endorsement of nutrek
not all of us have autistically curated reaction folders, some of us just get images ad hoc

>>212185444
>At its best it feels like early season Stargate or good Buffy, it's goofy and plays with genre
Imagine being so gay that you say this about a Star Trek show like it's a good thing.
>>212185474
Kill yourself
>>212185484
>oh it's totally organic!
Kill yourself.

>>212185474
>SPIC3 is only "watchable" because it's nostalgia bait that somewhat removes the bad taste of SPIC1/SPIC2. It would be better if the entire show never existed.
I don't disagree with you but I feel the non-picard characters act more natural than in nemesis, and therefore it is a better conclusion of their arcs for me than nemesis. That's a personal opinion that I reached after watching, I would not recommend someone watch it solely in the hope of finding a better sendoff than Nemesis.

people who dislike early season stargate are plebs who got filtered by kino

>>212185539
no you're a massive faggot for putting SG1 and Buffy in the same sentence though

Worfs "magically control Quarks body" technology thing just broke off kek. I get that it's necessary but it was so cheap. Just a little firework and it fell off kek. Overall though this is an enjoyable episode, I give Looking for Parmach in All the Wrong Places a solid 7/10. It's well done because you can tell Jadzia likes Worf but he's got no clue. She plays it well. Also I like seeing Grilkas old House Steward guy again he plays a great Klingon. This is after viewing VOY: The Swarm, which had a silly ending and the first really blatant Janeway example of her saying "Fuck the federation rules let's fly through their space anyway." Pretty silly of the Swarm race to have their ships all interlinked like that. Zap one of them and they all go down.
>A system of cells interlinked within / Cells interlinked within cells interlinked

>>212185500
>oh it's totally organic
More organic than curating a bunch of hard drive space to reaction images

>>212185474
Voyager is miles better than SNW. I challenge thee to bak'thal.

>>212185581
I'm sorry that hard drive space is at a premium for you, lil gup.

>>212185563
>mfw he doesn't buff

Wanting to get into Star Trek properly for the first time only having watched the Abrams movies before. I really want to get that gritty war veteran writing style instead of the impulsive and rebellious themes in NuTrek, do I watch the original show by episode numbering or original US broadcast date? And how do the original six movies compare do I watch them after the three seasons?

>>212185565
shame that is the last appearance of Grilka so I'm glad you enjoyed it, she was a great character shame they never brought her back

>>212185524
I too would prefer having herpes to cancer. It's still not an endorsement of herpes though

>>212185374
>>212185444
Sounds pretty. I'm not bored enough to watch that shit, I guess.


>>212185474
>ENT 6
>SNW 5.5
That almost makes me want to check it out

I kinda liked ENT, but I also watched it during the (((pandemic))) where any stimuli was a God send. I can't image watching STD or PIC outside Youtube vids talking about how bad they are.

>>212185632
I'd watch them by broadcast date but I would watch The Cage first as a separate thing. It's not exactly like what follows but it's still important.

As for the movies, the TOS movies are like exaggerations and flanderizations of their TOS character counterparts. But for all of that, they are still wildly entertaining. They get by on massive amounts of charm and charisma.
Only the first one really feels like a Star Trek episode though.

>>212185632
I find it somewhat disingenuous that you "only" saw the JJ movies but still use terms like "NuTrek," but whatever; the answer is always watch it in order

>>212185641
Some actors just really have a knack for playing convincing Klingons. Grilka is one of the best for sure.

>>212185657
If you watch SNW and are expecting anything approaching a 5, you're going to want to hunt down that anon and murder him in real life.

>>212185474
Oh, you ranked DS9 higher than TNG. didn't see that. Opinion disregarded.

>>212185657
>>212185698
I'll admit I'm biased on ENT because I think seasons 1 and 2 were 7 or 8/10 and then the rewrite/desperate chase for ratings in the later seasons tanked the show for me.

So SNW is still considerably worse than ENT at its best, but better than Voyager

>>212185632
the episode order in TOS can be a fucking mess use this pay no attention to the rating part but the episodes are in the right order, watching the cage first is optional maybe leave it and watch between s1 and 2 otherwise the menagerie 2 parter will seem like a clip show

>>212185749
>better than VOY
No, it isn't. SNW isn't even Star Trek -- it's not written like Star Trek, there are no great one-off episodic stories like Star Trek. It's not written with military diction -- everybody talks like an annoying fucking millennial in an officer that has bean bag chairs. In some ways, it's worse than STD because it wears more of a Star Trek skin. It's like that episode in S1 of TNG where host bodies are being controlled by parasites and that guy's head fucking explodes. SNW is like a zombie Star Trek with some alien creature inside: just another shitty generic 2025 """sci-fi""" show with a recognizable brand label slapped on its side.

Fuck you.

Your taste is abysmally shit and I mean it when I say leaky diarrhea shit from the ass of a chimpanzee shit.

>>212185444
Chapel is in it? Huh. I didn't know she was with Pike

>>212185565
much later you'll meet an another klingon steward that gives of the same vibes he's just more snarky

At 0800 hours, station time, the Romulan Empire formally declared war against the Dominion. They've already struck fifteen bases along the Cardassian border. So, this is a huge victory for the good guys! This may even be the turning point of the entire war! There's even a "Welcome to the Fight" party tonight in the wardroom! So, I lied. I cheated. I bribed men to cover up the crimes of other men. I am an accessory to murder. But most damning of all? I think I can live with it. And if I had to do it all over again, I would.

Garak was right about one thing: a guilty conscience is a small price to pay for the safety of the Alpha quadrant.

So I will learn to live with it.

Because I can live with it... I can live with it.

Computer, erase that entire anonymous post.

>>212185620
Wtf he literally looks like a Ferengi

>>212173983
He had a habit of disappearing at convenient times

Prodigy is the only decent nutrek.

>>212185900
>leaky diarrhea shit from the ass of a chimpanzee shit
Stop plagiarizing my Sarek erotica, please. It is OC Donut Steel.

>>212186055
You mean the series aimed at literal toddlers and children?

>>212173983
he never went back he called weyoun and dumar then left presumably for empok nor since that the next time we see him, well we see him when he called kira to bring attention to the fact that he fucked kiras mom, then the next time you actually see him he's on empok nor

>>212183996
The Kira thing was so weird. They were laying it on so thick and then just dropped it after one episode. I think the writers wanted to get an affair going but Berman but the kibosh on it.

>>212185900
>are no great one-off episodic stories like Star Trek.
lift us where suffering cannot reach
among the lotus eaters

>>212186136
>episode written by Kirsten Beyer
Ah yes, the genius who gave us such incredible Star Trek episodes as:
>Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
>Saints of Imperfection
>Unification III
Boy those are some great STD episodes. But also! She wrote some of the worst Picard episodes
>Remembrance
>Stardust City Rag -- also known as the episode where Icheb is brutally tortured and killed because his former actor had a few conservative opinions on Twitter!
Yeah

Eliminate yourself from the fucking gene pool

>>212186136
Ranking it higher than Voyager is literally retard-tier gfy

>>212186304
>because his former actor had a few conservative opinions on Twitter!
the actor who is a bisexual twink in the throes of twink death was persona non grata because he defended Kevin Spacey, which isn't conservative per se but made it bad optics to cast him

>>212186345
There has never been a single good episode of Voyager. Maybe four or five of SNW. About ten great ENT episodes.

>>212186087
Well yeah, its still nutrek after all.

>>212184917
I'm not surprised.

>>212186389
So don't cast him. Torturing a fictional character for outside of show reasons made them look absolutely pathetic. They could have just never mentioned Icheb again and nobody would have given a single shit.

>>212186402
Like I said, you're retarded. It's all good, maybe they can give you Bashir-style genetic upgrades so you can at least understand how retarded you are.

>>212186389
this guy gets it >>212186450
This ravaging fat fucking hambeast used a Star Trek episode as a platform for petty political revenge against an actor most people hadn't thought about in 20 years.

>>212186304
People who look like that and write like that should be fed to the great people of Haiti.

>>212186402
i'm not a big fan of voy I tend to waver between it and ent for 4th place, but that is a completely retarded thing to say

>>212186551
Nice backpedal, NuTroon.

>>212186402
>There has never been a single good episode of Voyager
Voyager has quite a few good one-off episodes which are good enough to be counted among the best Trek episodes of any series. The show is considered less good than the others due to its consistency and its characterization over the whole arc of its run but only a fucking idiot or a liar would say it has no good episodes.

Go watch Living Witness right now and tell me it's bad.

>>212186567
wtf are you talking about? I hate all nu trek, I haven't been involved in this discussion at all that was my first post about it

>>212186304
Her Voyager novels were pretty good, I don't know why she lost it when they hired her for nutrek

>>212186721
Probably a casualty of the mass hysteria and insanity that hit a lot of left-leaning people around 2016 or so.

>>212186402
>There has never been a single good episode of Voyager.
Phage. Eye of the Needle. Jetrel. The 37's. Projections. Cold Fire. Maneuvers. Prototype. Meld. Dreadnought. Death Wish. Deadlock. The Thaw. Basics I/II. Need I continue? That's just the first two seasons.

>>212186769
Probably to an extent doing what the fucking 18 producers are demanding too.

>>212186791
>The 37s
C'mon, Voyfag, you're hurting our argument's credibility with that shit lol

>>212186621
>Le nazi episode makes Voyager good
Grow up

>>212186791
>the 37s

>>212184896
better or hotter?

>>212186402
Tuvix is unironically a great star trek episode. It's still debated if Janeway did the right thing to this day.

>>212186304
She was just a professional fanfic author (aka EU novelist) who somehow got into the writers room.

>>212186869
>Le nazi episode
The episode is about how history can be twisted and distorted both by political factors and also simple misunderstandings that persist for centuries. It's a study of how history affects the modern world, our world, through the lens of the aliens represented in the episode.

You're a clueless retard Nu Trek piggie primed for more slop.
Go ahead, start "In Trek News" posting, maybe post a cartoon or two. You know you want to.

>>212186791
you never heard of a comma or what?

>>212186851
Voyager wasn't haughty enough to have fun with a goofy idea

>>212186969
and they could've had a lot of fun with it, unfortunately they didn't and it was dreary and boring

The entire concept of the "the burn" makes zero sense, because Romulans already developed quantum singularity cores, so while the total loss of M/AM infrastructure would be devastating, it wouldn't just shut the galaxy down. If they wanted to do a 'warp drive doesn't work anymore' story, the TNG episode about warp drive tearing up subspace would have worked fine, as would something to do with the omega particle from Voyager, or even just Q fuckery. Just one example of a thousand of Romulans being mistreated by the current regime.

>>212186962
Kill. Your. Self.

>>212187396
they wanted to make some pollution is bad type environmental story, I get what they were going for but its just a bad story that is completely ignored after

>>212187484
Not. Very. Nice.

>>212187524
Mods, please, do, something, this, person, is, impersonating, me

>>212186055
does it have hot lesbians?

>>212186055
For the first season, then it shits the bed with multiverse crap, Stephen King monsters, and Wesley Crusher

Damn, he's woken up from his lithium-induced slumber to be ignored and ridiculed for another 12 hours!

Look out, everybody! It's the Nu Trek Spammer!

>>212186645
didn't you know? anyone mentioning nutrek is the same anon. source: trust them bro

>>212187396
https://youtu.be/RRSx2p1h4EI

They've also pretended that everyone already had cloaks and plasma torpedoes for a century before the Romulans started hitting UFP outposts, despite both being portrayed as Romulan wunderwaffe that nobody had seen before and for which there was no counter. One day we'll find that the Breen had energy dissipators all along, used them on Discovery, Burnham discovered and implemented a perfect counter, and then everybody forgot.

>>212188113
but I didn't mention nu-trek I mentioned Ent and Voy, I understand tho, you get caught up in an argument then start overreacting to every post weighing in, it happens to the best of us, well not me I'm perfect, but most of us.

>>212188164
Innocence is another great VOY episode. There's nothing BUT good VOY episodes. VOY-hater is definitely nuTrek spammer. I think it's easier to pick out the bad VOY episodes than the good ones because there really aren't that many especially bad ones. Great cast. Great setting. Great stories. VOY-hater is a retard.

>>212188164
compared to last week that is a solid line up, tng one is a bit iffy but overall a damn solid line up

>>212188251
No, I hate nu-Trek because it is a continuation of the decline that began with VOY. TNG has more good episodes in any given season, except maybe season 1, than VOY has in the entire run. Chakotay in particular is egregiously shitty.

>>212188251
jfc now you are swinging too hard, their are a ton of shit Voy eps, but saying they are all shit is retarded. Innocence is a really good one.

>>212185474
I'd put SNW as at least

It's good but marred by some very modern Trek, Alex Kurtzman-induced flaws, like constant nostalgia-baiting, plots working on a superficial level but once you really think about them, them not working as well as you initially thought, the ship sometimes not 'feeling' like it's a mixed military/science vessel with a chain of command, and so on.

I do respect the hell out of it for doing different things with the LD crossover and the musical episode though.

>>212188251
Innocence is a good episode but both you and the Nu Trek fags come off as unhinged.

>>212188251
Voyager is just painfully mediocre compared to the 3 good trek series, and it wastes far too much of its opening potential to get much sympathy from me.
It is perfectly watchable for the most part but why not just watch TNG DS9 or TOS instead. Also I'd say its cast of characters are mostly subpar too. The Dr can only carry so much weight. There are indeed some great episodes, would be nice if we didn't have to wade through all the mediocre ones to get to them. Compared to nu trek though? Voyager is a shining beacon of scifi in comparison

>>212188113
Nice try. What's next, an "Ooooh!" greentext? No one but you watches and shills that crap.

do you guys every do anything except argue about which series is best?

>>212188589
personally I post about trek things I like and make lil webmemes

>>212188022
Prodigy is the only decent NuTrek specifically because it doesn't have any woke nonsense in it. The boy and girl characters end up banging by the end. Chakotay and Janeway's relationship is full of romantic tension. The show is aggressively hetero.
In context of your show, I appreciate how Aaron Waltke's Twitter is just him being autistic over Star Trek canon, while Mike McMahan's Twitter is just endless seething over the orange man. It really encapsulates the attitudes of the two shows. One is a celebration of Star Trek made by genuine autists, and the other is screeching of a nostalgic woketard.

>>212188412
>It is perfectly watchable for the most part but why not just watch TNG DS9 or TOS instead.
This is a very casual question to ask.

What do you mean why? Because you've already watched all of those through at least 10 times, obviously, so why not watch something which, while a little worse, is still Star Trek and is much newer and fresher to your brain.
DUH.

>>212188589
no we also argue about which waifu is best and which 2 parter is best, which season is best, which borg episode is best, which uniform is best, the possibilities are endless

>>212188641
good way to put it, I'm 1/2 way through s7 of ds9 and I'm looking forward to Voy for a change of pace. I haven't seen it in ages also knowing I will be skipping the really bad eps helps

>>212188412
>Compared to nu trek though? Voyager is a shining beacon of scifi in comparison
This is what I'm saying. The nutrekker said Voyager had zero good episodes. He ranked SNW higher than Voyager. It's madness. Voyager is high quality science fiction. Maybe the cast isn't as well-loved as the TNG cast but they do their jobs well. What awful Voyager episodes do people list out? The boxing one and the salamander one. That's two obviously BAD episodes out of 7 seasons. If that's how we're judging then it's ahead of TNG. There we have shit season 1, Crusher fucks a ghost, Shades of Gray, and anything starring Geordi. Lets not pretend "Geordi tries to save his mommy" is some kind of all time science fiction standard. Voyager is so much better than it's reputation and even if it's not, I think we can ALL agree (except for the retard) that it's 70,000 light years ahead of SNW.

>>212188666
are all the possibilities arguing?

>>212188589
we make ai songs about the more autistic rants

>>212188723
Yeah this is pretty much the standard approach

>>212188738
>anything starring Geordi.
I get what your saying but that is false geordi and the romulan stuck on the planet is really good, also his bhrams episodes are a lot of fun, out of phase is good, geordi gets more hate then he deserves

>>212188738
I was watching the little documentary on my TNG bluray and when the writers were talking about how they were kinda running out of steam in s7 the editors put clips of the ghostfucker and Geordi's mom episodes over it kek

>>212188765
You must be new to the Internet.

>>212188813
I think I just hate Geordi a little more than average because shit to me he's equally as boring as Harry Kim. He does have some solid episodes though, thank you for reminding me of the Romulan one.

>>212188813
Geordi gets one of TNG's best scenes when he's using the holodeck to investigate the mystery in Identity Crisis.

I'm not a Geordi hater but...

Harry Kim > Geordi

There, I said it.

>>212188829
Yeah so I mean they are all pretty neck and neck. Relatively speaking RELATIVELY SPEAKING the ranking is like this, as if viewed from far away:
TOS=TNG=DS9=VOY=ENT > HUGE POWER GAP > everything nuTrek.

>>212188765
no we can also discuss the intricacies of intersteller policy, if the maquis are really retarded they are and if dukat did anything wrong he didn't wait who am I kidding those are all arguments as well, at least we can all agree that the galaxy class is the best looking starship

>>212188880
That scene always reminded me of the scene people point to in the original Blade Runner, (the "enhance" scene) in terms of boring. I can't imagine a normie enjoying Geordi meticulously tracking down shadows in a holodeck. It's a boring scene to me, but I guess I get where you're coming from. It is "sci fi."

>>212188946
I gotta say nothing says "home" to me like the Constitution class. That bridge could either become cozy or become a pressure cooker. It was perfect. Galaxy class 2nd. Voyager ahead of Defiant and ENT ship whatever that class was.

I wish TOS had more Andorians. They're creepy and I like them

>>212189045
ENT has the worst fucking ship and ship sets imaginable.
>polarize the hull plating
I cringe every single time they say this. What a retarded fucking concept.

>>212188917
As I'm rewatching Voyager, Harry Kim really isn't the worst. He's way more competent than Paris is. When you want to point at someone and say: "Starfleet Officer", Harry Kim embodies it decently.

>>212189045
best looking, not 'home' that is the constitution class for me as well

>>212189068
>polarize the hull plating
>I cringe every single time they say this. What a retarded fucking concept.
It's a charged thing to say, yes

>>212189000
It's an encounter with the unknown, it's a very Star Trek thing.

>>212189000
I'm a massive sucker for those holodeck reconstruction type scenes, they do them in ds9 and voy as well I always love them

>>212189092
Yeah, people say he's generic but he's a right-out-of-the-academy Ensign, he should be generic.

>>212189068
They should have really just had shields by the time of ENT. That enterprise was just terrible. Metallic with goddamn ugly tvs everywhere. I don't care for the jumpsuits either.

>>212189045
voyager is intrepid class, the nx01 is 'enterprise' class

>>212189206
I only remembered Constitution class because I remembered Picard saying it to Scotty. Not gonna remember that stuff. Sad but true. But thank you it is interesting. Enterprise class is a silly thing to name the enterprise. I would rename it, "Explorer Class"

its the "Dukat tries to be david koresh" episode, ah well I'm sure ill enjoy dukat chewing scenery

>>212189251
first "starfleet" vessel here's an interesting factoid the enterprise nc1701 has that number because its the 17th class created by starfleet and the first of its line.

>>212189371
That is an interesting factoid.

>>212189068
do you know which eric andre episode that img comes from? I've seen it so many times but I've never seen the episode

>>212189251
The 1701 had always been "Starship Class" according to her dedication plaque, but somewhere along the line, I think it was Roddenberry, said she actually belongs to the Constitution Class, which was accepted as canon for a long time and then confirmed via dialogue in TNG.

>>212189568
its funny how these things come about, for instance did you know the d7 klingon battle cruiser got its designation from an argument between nimoy and shatner on set? its a funny story.

>>212189323
And impregnating Bajorans. Mustn’t forget that

>>212189614
Or like how everyone always "knew" Sulu's first name was Hikaru but it's never said on screen until TUC in 1991

>>212189704
exactly, between tos and tng a lot of things became canon that were never actually said on tos

>>212189745
Name three

>>212189774
you have 3 right here, constitution class, d7 cruiser, hikaru sulu, think before you post.

>>212189823
No

>>212189774
oh and James "Tiberius" Kirk, Tiberius was because of a novel between tos and tng and it became canon

>>212189251
The NX-01 had no class.

>>212189863
lol, dumb little frog

>>212189774
Nyota Uhura

>>212188955
kek what

>>212190045
It's official art from DISCO.

the prophets told me i have to impregnate your wife

>>212190425
excuse me, who are you?

>>212190403
From what?

>>212190548
DISCO

>>212190582
Oh you mean STD?

>>212190582
What?

>>212188622
i like memes

>>212190425
my wife was born a man

>>212190959
That's OK, Federation technology is very advanced these days. And if they can't do it, the Ferengi black market can.

>>212190642
DISCO

>>212190710
riker should have been run out of the service for letting her take it again and again and again

>>212191281
Huh?

I don't think the Equinox did anything wrong, and honestly it was unrealistic that Janeway's own crew didn't feed her to the warp core when she turned on them. They're just trying to get home, same as anyone, and unlike Janeway they didn't get to decide to just stay there for no reason. Janeway should have been on really thin ice with her own crew, and in the first season she was, even Tuvok disobeys her retard orders in Prime Factors because everyone but her is trying to get home. Anyone on the bridge, even Paris, would have been a better CO than Janeway.

>>212191837
DISCO
oh god its so sad to see her as the not-landwhale she once wasn't, who lets themselves get that fat

>>212191990
they are feeding living sentient beings into the engine to power their warp drive, now insaneway is insane but but she isn't that far gone, although she does force them to help her take down captain ransom

>>212182660
Go back to your grave Gene, you're dead.

>>212192127
>Embed
Wedding rings are fattening.

>>212192127
oh, you mean STD

>>212190710
kek

remember when barclay got super smart and modified the enterprise so it could travel 30,000 light years in a matter of hours?
why didnt they take any notes?

>>212192807
>remember when barclay got super smart and modified the enterprise so it could travel 30,000 light years in a matter of hours?
I was trying to forget about it, but yeah.

>>212191771
The Federation isn't as well-run as the main characters would have us believe. There's a lot of bureaucratic dysfunction under the shiny facade.

>>212192127
They don't let her eat on duty anymore.

>>212192328
Through a combination of a rogue Genesis Device, and my own Katra, I live again. Why did you think I wanted my, and my wife's, ashes shot into deep space? I have returned to do what I would have done in this period of my life, and in this era...seethe on social media.

>>212192262
They didn't know it at the time. Afterwards they were being attacked, and they eliminated the attacker in a way that also might get them home, which is no worse than Janeway vaporizing someone with a phaser.

>>212192653
so many memes

>>212193357
its worse its much worse, on the other hand janeway forced them to help her take down ransom so in the end janeway is worst, someone should've given her some coffee.

>>212192807
>>212192926
Funny how they never brought that up again. Maybe it would have been too disruptive to the overall story line. But I can see Federation insiders using Sitherian technology to strike back at their foes, then letting the power go to their heads, and abusing it.

That shit is just too gay and retarded to be believed, it's like an exaggerated caricature of an idiot's Trek show

>>212192127
I don't know what this is.

>>212188955
is that a quote from the show?

>>212193447
damn that's crazy

>>212193153
Timely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui5C370Bx3o

>>212191771
>letting her take it again and again and again
That's policy, not Riker. And it makes sense within the context of what they're doing. What doesn't make sense is doing it on a holodeck where everyone knows nothing really matters, it's like assuming I would order someone to their death because I killed someone in a video game.

>>212193438
its mostly because its world breaking but still i dont like that they dont offer explanations to close the holes. like how voyager dismissed the space folder by saying it can only work around that planet and its incompatible with starfleet tech anyway.

>>212186939
>somehow

>>212193622
Oh no, faggots agree with me?! I withdraw my previous accusations.

>>212193864
Cytherian technology wasn't even explored in the extended universe...
https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Cytherian
Seems like such a waste.

I love DS9, but I dislike the portrayal of giant 1,000 ship fleets bashing into each other, and miss the older days where fleets were small enough that losing 40 ships was a huge deal, and the defense plan for a given sector was "send in the Enterprise"

>>212194263
its a reasonable escalation, you can't have a galactic war without thousands of ships, that would be lame and stupid, they hammered home the cost of it over and over so it wasn't like some kid smashing spaceships against each other. I et what you mean each vessel is important but when you are waging war on this scale if you don't have massive fleets it doesn't work.

>>212194452
t. knows everything about interstellar invasion tactics

>>212194645
I dont zap presidents for no reason thank you very much

>>212195180
>retard President with ridiculous hair starts a war

>>212195180
The President had that coming. I only feel sorry for Jack Black's character.

>>212193660
And it makes even less sense for Deanna specifically, since the holodeck isn't simulating the fear and anxiety she'd be sensing from actual people in a real life or death situation

>>212172783 (OP)
What else was she ever in?

>>212176329
The plants fucking casting shadows on the sky...

>>212176251
Now that's some great acting right there.

>>212193198
Is this real or AI generated

>>212197431
It's real bro. That was the third synthesized burger she made that today.

>>212197431
deleted scene

Kill all nu-Trek faggots.

The gays in discovery really brought the show down (more), but I was also hoping that T'Pol and Hoshi would make out at some point. There's a right way and a wrong way to do things is my point.

>>212197778
That'd be a lot more threatening if you ever left your room in your mommy's house where you grew up.

>>212186055
Completely correct.

>>212198323
Haha, that animation is so damn bad. I guess everyone's gotta start somewhere in their career.

>>212193660
except he tells her he cant let her do it anymore and then he lets her do it anyway.
and its fine to let her keep testing but the scenario needs to be different every time otherwise its just brute force

>>212198525
Midriff, really? That's not really appropriate.

>>212198760
What about lingerie

>>212198760
Is this appropriate?

>>212198996
yes

>>212199114
How about the time Troi traveled back in time to gather intel on the ancestor of their latest foe, and ended up blowing her cover (and her blouse)?

>>212198956
>>212198996
I will NOT be letting my children see Star Trek. This is pure SMUT.

>>212199434
Star Trek has always been about softcore smut. See >>212193805

>>212198996
appropriate? it should be mandatory.

>>212198525
The Terran Empire female uniforms just don't look right with the enterprise uniforms.

>>212199659
I look forward to AI letting us easily create "Star Trek: The Nude Generation". Process the original show, but make everyone nude. Make the less attractive characters more attractive.

>>212199760
Is there little people inside her tits jumping around like it's a bounce house?

>>212199309
>flying dive from the top rope
highly kino, even though she has a hairy pussy for sure she has grown on me

>in the mirror universe, the angel on your shoulder is the one giving you bad ideas
kino

>>212199864
Yes, she has a full bush. That's shown in other parts of the movie. That clip is literally all the footage of her from that movie that can be posted to a blue board like /tv/.
In this clip, Troi is sent into the past after all of Picard's favorite whores blink out of existence. She's there to collect intel on someone suspected of being a serial killer of prostitutes, whose actions somehow resonate into the future.

this brings up an important question, can you smell the holodeck, or is it just pictures only? you can touch it, but I assume everything just feels like a force field, and I'm not sure how it would simulate smells or tastes

>>212199827
I think they're the alien equivalent of Mexican jumping beans. Or maybe some midgets are suffocating under her immense boobage and trying to free themselves.

>>212200134
imagine kissing a hologram and she tastes like... tasteless blocks of plastic

>>212200134
I certainly hope they can't smell it during naked playtime.

>>212200134
the holodeck uses a combination of hologram and replicator tech to simulate enviroments. can be as real or fake as you want

>>212200389
that only works for picking up an apple and eating it and getting a replicated pseudo apple, we can see that the holodeck isn't replicating and animating a skin sheathe for everyone you interact with, so barclay was basically fucking blowup dolls

ah yes, the science fiction cinematographate

>>212200541
vaginas can be replicated. its only rare stuff like latinum and dilithium that cant be replicated

What is the Holiday Special of Star Trek?

>>212200976
closest we got is generations

>>212200976
Data's Day

>>212201115
Generations is almost worse

>>212200967
But we can see that isn't happening.

>>212201324
we most certainly do not see what holodeck sex is like but it seems like something almost everyone does so it must be better than mere photons and forcefields

>>212201654
I mean we can see they turn the holodeck off and all the replicated meat doesn't flop over. Having some ability to reclaim living tissue is beyond the scope of replicators we see, and would be such an obvious risk. It's just an extreme stretch, the only reference to replicators we see in the holodeck are for things like edible food, they aren't making skinsuits.

>>212201704
all the real stuff disappears when it turns off just like when they put the dirty plates in the replicator.

>>212201755
No. Dirty plates are inanimate, we never see it consume living tissue, nor would we because it doesn't and can't. There is a visible dissolution time that isn't seen on the holodeck. There is no indication anywhere in any show that the holodeck replicates skin suits, and there's no reasonable extrapolation for it. It's just gay 4chanism.

>>212201853
>>212201853
>>212201853
>>212201853
>>212201853
/trek/ ENGAGE!

>>212201859
Living tissue or not, can it replicate the feeling of living tissue? I don't see why not even if it's not real. Feeling and sustenance are two different things.

>>212200389
>>212200967
>>212201654
>hurr durr i'm an expert on fake science, especially when used for SEXOOOOOO
You spend entirely too much time by yourself.

bye bye!