Why do you hate original ideas ?

where was the marketing

>>212192826 (OP)
>kike homosexual with soulless bean-smile design
no thanks

>>212192826 (OP)
It's the animation style. It's just ugly. Pixar has proven time and again they're better than this.

>>212192826 (OP)
>woke cgislop #3678900
yeah hire better writers

>>212192858
I saw a few ads for it on youtube
It looked like shit
Iger refuses to accept responsibility for his failures

poor disney poor indie company :(
maybe dont make every gay and ugly and anti normal family and your shit will sell again

>>212192826 (OP)
Remember how cool how Cars looked? Remember how it wasn’t woke onions boy slop? If I was a kid I wouldn’t be fucking interested in Elio.

one look at the character tells you why no one wants to watch it

>>212192826 (OP)
>Why do you hate original ideas ?
Woke slop is anything buy original in 2025

>people don't like original ideas
>never mind that we don't hire anybody that can create GOOD original ideas, all of our current creatives are nepotism and/or DEI hires who have lived sheltered lives and can only make stories about their dull ass lives but with an uninspiring quirk that's meant to represent how much they hated somebody that called them out on being a shitter
>and regardless of whether our original ideas are good or bad, we don't want to risk our money marketing it when instead we can use it to market Old Movie but Live Action (created and made by the same creatives we mentioned earlier btw)
>and its not really marketable in the first place because we don't accept original ideas without at least 80% of the characters gaining some shade of brown and/or gay, which makes them unappealing to audiences including the brown/gay ones
>its just that people don't like original ideas!
they'll never get it and they'll never bring in or hire anybody that will

>Create something original
>It's woke slop
>Why does no one like originals?

ENOUGH WITH THE HUMANSLOP

>>212192826 (OP)
>Are people sick of our woke commie propaganda movies because they're terrible?
>No, no it is the audiences who are wrong.

>>212192927
Kek, remember how he strong armed the other guy out and posed as the returning saviour, only to keep churning out bullshit woke calarts art style movies everybody hates.

>>212193298
because anyone who can "get it" also recognizes that hollywood's core business model, selling individual pieces of media, is obsolete.

>>212192826 (OP)
no they didn't

>>212193666
There are no humans in Elio.

The "original ideas" have to be good

>>212192826 (OP)
i had to read a CNBC article to find out what the movie was about
the trailers failed to inform me

>>212192826 (OP)
If fans don't like original movies, why did they like the movies you're remaking when they first saw them?

>>212192826 (OP)
>hero's journey for kids and there's a comic relief non-human sidekick character
Yeah so original.

>>212193298
Getting it would require the executives to admit they were wrong, which will never happen

>>212192826 (OP)
>No marketing
>Still using the beanmouth animation people are tired of seeing
>wtf why don't they like "original" ideas?

>>212192826 (OP)
Woah he glued common items together to make something else. Such childlike imagination and inocence. Very original. The twist at the end where the fantastical events that took place in the movie were just regular places and people seen through his imagination really caught me off guard. It exceeds Don Quixote and Wizard of Oz.

>>212196179
>describes every "original" idea ever
Wowzers! Sure showed me! How will I ever recover from that blow?

I'm gonna watch it. I'm just not gonna pay to watch it.

When are they going to abandon the cal arts style?

>>212196904
When everybody who uses said style is dead.

>>212196945
I thought artists were supposed to learn all sorts of styles in those fancy art schools?

>>212196179
Damn seething

>>212196904
It was invented out of desperation/necessity to try to get art school students to learn something remotely marketable.

>>212192880
They aren't you were just a child. You were groomed into believing that Incredibles, Wall-e etc were good, but they aren't. They were pretty, simple kids movies that had more polish than the others, no more.

>>212192826 (OP)
They stopped making good original films because they fucked up the marketing for Treasure Planet out of spite. Never let them forget that mistake led to everything you see now.

>>212192826 (OP)
Disney originality died with Walt though

>>212192826 (OP)
Wow, a picture with some text on it. Must be real!

>>212192952
Yes, Cars was always mediocre slop.

>>212196886
Only boys that have been molested sits like that

>>212192826 (OP)
Did we not watch original movies before? Didn't sinners just do well

>>212197031
>old isn’t any better it was just better

>>212192826 (OP)
Original and good. Shitting out "original" slop like this doesn't win any points. Originality on its own means nothing. rjdididfiifi4irjd4i4i there is an original word I made up. Just because it's original doesn't mean it's any good or worth a damn.

>>212197031
stop being a pathological contrarian, wall-e and incredibles 1 were in fact great films, and you're a faggot who needs to touch grass to say otherwise.

You wanna be a pseud hipster? do it in a hipster faggot thread, not a Yidney mockery thread.

>>212197060
>marketing == success

What brand of mental retardation causes someone to think this?

>>212192826 (OP)
I don't support Disney

>>212197227
Yeah. Because Sinners was a good movie. Disney is lazy as fuck and thinks "oh but its original" means everyone will love it. They're talentless hacks.

>>212192826 (OP)
The new animation style they have been sticking with looks awful and generic. I would rather watch something with Toy Story 1 animation.

>>212196886
is that a cuck chair? or a kiddy sized casting couch?

>>212197218
You would know, huh.

>>212192826 (OP)
K-Pop Demon Hunters is doing alright right now, Flow was an award winner.

People still support original stories. They just aren’t supporting shit ones from Disney.

>>212193666
>>212193666
You are a furry

>>212192826 (OP)
Im a 40 year old man, Im not in that movies demographic.

>>212197582
Well, I'm 41 and I am.

>>212192826 (OP)
>beanmouth
>original
Art is dead

>>212192826 (OP)
jews have terrible original ideas

Puss in Boots TLW was incredibly well-recieved and made decent bank. It's really simple, guys, just make great timeless movies and they'll do good.

>>212192859
Don't forget brown muttoid

>>212193666
Lol, reminds me of those clowns that were complaining that children's novels have too many talking animal protagonist vs POCs.

>>212197031
The first half of wall-e is unironic gigakino.

>>212197635
>IM IN THE DEMOGRAPHIC BECAUSE...BECAUSE I SAY SO OK?? NOW LET ME EAT OUT OF MY HECKIN ELIO HEAD SHAPED POPCORN BUCKET IN PEACE!

>>212198009
u mad bro? It's just a movie.

>>212198086
>u mad bro?
Not really
>It's just a movie
No shit

>>212192826 (OP)
Written by Julia Cho (Korean from Juliard)
Directed by Madeline Sharafian (bisexual Armenian from CalArts) and Domee Shi (Chinese failed comic book artist)
Produced by Mary Alice Drumm
Edited by Anna Wolitzky

Original cuck director stepped down to make way for two female directors and an HR committee of DEI hired feminists to tell a story about what a little boy feels when he is isolated and lonely.

It looks like a worse CalArts Wallace and Gromit 3D CGI slopfest without the soul of stop motion animation.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/elio-bean-mouth-1.7573340

https://archive.is/iujQL

>>212196854
>Wowzers! Sure showed me! How will I ever recover from that blow?
Wat

>>212197756
>The first half of wall-e is unironic gigakino.
Reminder that the first humans appear less than 20 minutes into the movie. You remembered it as "the halfway point" because the first 20 minutes is so memorable.

>>212193666
>human slop
>entire film is about space and aliens
Holy shit you're retarded and probably brown

>>212192826 (OP)
Because your original ideas are bad

>>212192826 (OP)
I love how the idea that their original movies (read: brownoid woman slop) are simply terrible, and that people are more drawn to products conceived by white men for white people in a white country, is so beyond the pale that the very concept of originality becomes the problem.

>>212192826 (OP)
It didn't look good. Why the fuck does the kid have a stupid eye patch? Don't plaster ugly shit on a poster and ask why normal people didn't show up, it's that simple every time

>>212197313
Movies need to make a profit in order for them to be considered successful by the company. The industry revolves around what makes money. We can sit here all day and go over box office bombs that were great movies. Problem is, hollywood won't make more movies that don't profit. They'll make toy story 5 and incredibles 3 before making some movie where a candy bar has to go to hell in cause of a mix up on halloween or some shit.

>>212198432
Why are you lying? It's like 40 minutes until they arrive at the axiom, so almost exactly half the movie.

3d animation was a mistake

IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN

>>212198718
What does wally watch right at the beggining? Stupid.

>>212192826 (OP)
Bean mouth slop

>>212192826 (OP)
>why aren't people seeing our movie?

>>212199120
You mean the recordings and ads? That adds to the atmosphere (and to your cope about the first half not being kino)

>>212198290
Aardmanchads win again

>>212199231
>You mean the recordings and ads?
No, I mean THE PEOPLE that APPEAR in those movie clips, and that happens right at the begining.

>>212199364
So yes, the recordings and ads
Jesus Christ you're a retard

>an illegal alien meets another illegal alien

>>212199407
>So yes
I accept your concession.

>>212197296
Hipsters aren't real.
Pixar were always average. Idem post 1960s Disney, Creamworks, etc.

>>212192826 (OP)
Yes, I enjoy things simply for novelty. The era before 1979 was inherently the best in movies because it contained no sequels. Who needs story or characters when you can slap the words "brand new" on a consumable?

>>212197060
And they killed John Carter cause "movie with mars in the title fail"

I'll support them when they go back to 2D animation

Maybe stop with the stupid forced diversity. I don't want to watch a movie about eyepatch boy

>>212192826 (OP)
I don't hate original ideas, I hate BAD ideas.

>>212200312
What's BAD about this idea? Seems like a perfectly fine adventure movie to me.

>>212201176
little gay brown protag

>>212201176
it's gay & retarded, which hasn't been in vogue for a couple of years now (except among gay retards, obviously, among whom it's always in vogue. sadly that seems to include a huge section of the contemporary media class)

>>212197097
The animation studio under Walt only ever made movies adapting old fairy tales and books. Lion King was a big deal when it came out in the 90s because it was Disney Animation's first movie with an "original story".

>>212192826 (OP)

>>212192826 (OP)

>>212201395
they stole that story from grorious nippon lel

>>212192826 (OP)
What was original about this movie?

Has anyone else noticed how in the past "original" meant that the idea was novel, but recently people just use it to mean "not part of an existing IP"? Why are people retarded now?

>>212198290
>Domee Shi

Honestly how this woman still has a job after the shitshow Turning Red was is completely beyond me.

You'd think the Pixar execs would have taken one look at the $300 million loss that movie incurred and demanded her head for it.

>>212192826 (OP)
We hate beanmouth

>>212192826 (OP)
>original
>bean mouth

>>212198290
>bisexual Armenian
I thought the Middle East killed fags?

>>212202444
Probably why she lives in commiefornia.

>>212202371
Asian women give good head. Look it up. They're some of the top fellaters in the world.

>>212202371
Turning Red is good. Cope more

>>212202509

Surely a Pixar or Disney executive can afford better Asian prostitutes than a washed up director demanding a quarter of a billion for her piss-poor attempt to ape Studio Ghibli (the real Miyazaki would call her a degenerate whore whose father didn't beat her hard enough a a girl)

>>212202542
>Turning Red is good. Cope more

It lost money, so it was in fact, objectively not good for its financial backers.

>>212198290
>Written by Julia Cho (Korean from Juliard)
>Directed by Madeline Sharafian (bisexual Armenian from CalArts) and Domee Shi (Chinese failed comic book artist)
>Produced by Mary Alice Drumm
>Edited by Anna Wolitzky
kek
Everything went downhill shortly after Lasseter got ousted, didn't it? It's a literal feminazi shithole.

>>212198787
Doesn't matter. Government bailouts will save them. It's just another tax writeoff. Toy Story 5 will make an easy billie. Simple as.

>>212192826 (OP)
This has to be fake right

>>212202771
>Disney/Pixar (aka Cultural Marxism central)
>getting bailouts from fucking Trump of all people

Put down the fucking crack pipe.

>>212202887
Multi-billion dollar companies like Disney don't need the backing of the government to fund them when they have foreign money laundering to capitalize on.

>>212192826 (OP)
The Wild Robot made 340m and even Elemental managed to reach 500m while Elio will make maybe 140m.
People do show up for original movies if they're good and word of mouth gets around. Elio is just mid.

>>212197031
>simple kids movies
Pixar movies are for everyone.

>>212203001
wasn't the biggest fan of elemental, but i appreciated them trying something new.

>"I do believe that the future of America are Latinos, and people of color...I just think that as long as we keep being who we are and coming from a place of love and dignity and hard work we will win."

Why aren't white American traitors watching this shit? Zoe "Negress" Saldana says it's good!

>>212192826 (OP)
Elio is the same quality original story as Wall-E? False equivalence is all you get in dystopia.

>>212202971

Okay well there's a difference between laundering money Putin and Shoigu embezzled from the Russian defense budget (I wonder why they're using literal airsoft helmets...) and expecting gibsmedat from the Don after your company and its employees spent the better part of a decade openly insulting him.

>>212203091
Latinos are the largest minority population, not incl illegals. Why didn't make this a hit? Does Zoe think race/ethnicity are enough as a story + character arc?

>>212203068
Yeah it wasn't amazing or anything but it was a solid flick, very watchable.

>>212198551
> Why the fuck does the kid have a stupid eye patch
Plot reason is he was beaten up by bullies for being le different. So he’s disabled for ESG points, but not disabled enough so audiences can’t relate to him. Typical Disney copout.

>>212192826 (OP)
Because Pixar's idea of an original IP is just a director self-inserting their loser childhood as a form of therapy onscreen

>>212199229
Is Disney going to try and force the slug thing as a meme like with Clod? I don’t think they’re even going to try to save Elio. It’ll be on D+ next month.

>>212198290
I'm being racist because I think of we arr rook same with the cho lady's name, but it still reminds me of that Red Panda thing being a glorified therapy session by the narcissistic director/writer. And that elemental interracial animation being the same.

I'm not big on watching cartoons to begin with but I went to go see Zootopia because it looked fun and it was fun, and I am willing to wager money that the writer of it was not some ̶r̶a̶b̶b̶i̶t̶ petite girl who really wanted to become a cop and was discriminated against because ̶r̶a̶b̶b̶i̶t̶ small girls can't be cops.

Wrote that and then I saw >>212203383 so yeah same thinking.

>>212201260
>little gay brown protag
Just satly "American protag"

>>212197031
I didn’t even see wall-E for the first time until I was an adult and I still think it’s kino

>>212192826 (OP)
>"Why do you, population of mostly white people, hate our El Poopo A-Cha Cha movie about Mexican boy Jose trying to find his taco bender, during Cinco De Mayo??"

Yeah that shit just doesn't interest me. Bette to be white and have """"""""no culture"""""""" than some rinky dink wetback culture that sucks, IMO

>>212203538
Elemental and The Last Dragon were also Disney backed therapy sessions. They have to go back to traditional princess and hero’s journey movies if they want to make money and not be instantly forgotten.

>>212203663
Meant Encanto. But that one at least had good songs.

>>212192826 (OP)
And yet all sequels are based on movies that were initially also original ideas.
So how did those original movies get popular enough for sequels in the first place if audiences supposedly only like sequels?
Could it be that your original movies USED to be good, and now you just don't know how to make good movies any more?

>>212202887
>Implying Trump wouldn't side with a Jewish-owned company

>>212203663
there is only one way to save animation and its perverts with pencils.

>>212197031
The Incredibles is still probably the second or third best capeshit Disney ever made after the original Iron Man and Infinity War. Nudisney would never green light movie about the emasculation of modern men. Faggot

>>212199229
I find his eye patch really off putting from a visual standpoint
maybe if it was a black patch with a string that went around his head to keep it in place it would be cool

>>212192826 (OP)
Then they should have good ideas instead? Original ideas can still be shit, the audience is not obligated to like or view something just because it's original.

>>212192826 (OP)
Any "original ideas" coming from sex obsessed LGBBQ+++ millenials and zoomers are going to be complete shit.
I'm glad they're gonna stop making them.

>>212197176
sure but it was cool mediocre slop

>>212203759
>perverts with pencils
Excellent studio name

>>212203777
They would never make a movie about a white nuclear family with a strong father and a sexy mother. Even the sequel turned Mr. Incredible into a bumbling idiot dad while the mom kept everything together.

>>212203663
Raya was a clumsy Avatar the Last Airbender knockoff more then it was a therapy session.

>>212192826 (OP)
>It's your fault, not ours!
Top shelf meme. I keep seeing it but it gets funnier every time, I love it. Very nice.

>>212204012
wasn't dad struggling because mom went out to have a career and then she fucked up and dad tried to help but also fucked up because he trusted his wife and they had to be saved by their kids which resulted in a grand family bonding?

>>212192826 (OP)
Instead of using a dumpy effeminate brown kid they should have used a few Pierre Joubert style Boy Scout troop getting kidnapped by Aliens

>>212203495
clodgods we're not gonna make it

>>212203759
Hiring back all the lewd drawer havers would be a good start.

>>212204094
and additionally keeping kids from family business only results in resentment and if it's a good thing, nevertheless taxing and you just want your kids to have a good life without the overhead, should be imparted if kids are willing? this part is the most fantastical.

>>212201460
this image is making me want to boogie

>>212204123
No, they should have just renamed the movie to Stelio, and changed the plot to him being recruited by aliens to bully the villainous ones into submission.

>>212192826 (OP)
What was it even about? The animation was a turn off and the only commercial I saw was him being abducted, bouncing around a white room and swallowed to avoid lava. What was the adventure hook?

>>212201176
I haven't watched the film, so I can't actually say if it's worth a watch, but it's clear to anyone uninvested in Pixar emotionally as to why this one failed at the box office. The notion of its 'originality' being the decisive stymying factor is simply Disney/Pixar plugging their ears and refusing to self-reflect on several of their recent failures and changing market trends. Audiences turned up for the fucking Garfield movie.
The major issues with Elio:
>Elio is a terrible title for this type of film. Completely generic vaguely latin-sounding name in a film that does not aim to portray/translate a foreign culture to new audiences as one its core features like Coco or Encanto. This should have been called something more elucidating like 'Elio: The Accidental Space Ambassador' or something to that effect. The intention, I feel, was to emphasise that this a character driven tale, with Elio's trauma and social isolation being a selling point, but really no kids give a shit about any of that.
>No immediate high-concept hook. Even Elemental had the simply transmittable idea of anthropomorphised elements that could be related through basic marketing materials
>Dogged adherence to an art-style that has become famously maligned or considered trite with some audiences
>Ugly/unappealing characters - having a maggot, regardless of how supposedly endearing he might be, as a central character, is a strange choice. Insectoid/mollusc aliens likewise are a hard sell to women and kids.
>Effeminate tonal aesthetic that almost veers into the tumblr-esque 'bisexual lighting'. This was also prevalent in Strange World
Elio bears a marked similarity in conceptual and aesthetic form to Lightyear and Strange World with their progressive sci-fi worlds, and Turning Red with the niche minority trauma and calarts style. Audiences clearly find this unappealing yet Disney have persisted with it nonetheless. sinking hundreds of millions of wasted dollars into it.

>>212204289
I can hear it.

>>212204392
Elio wasn’t made for children. It was made for childless 25 and 35 year olds who want to relive their childhood. That’s all modern Disney movies. They know actual kids are too hooked on IPads and YouTube and TikTok to follow a 90 minute film.

>The writing was first on the wall for the troubled production when the film from Molina, known as the co-director of Pixar’s Oscar-winning 2017 hit Coco, conducted an early test screening in Arizona. Although viewers expressed how much they enjoyed the movie, they were also asked how many of them would see it in a theater, and not a single hand was raised, according to a source with knowledge of the event. This sounded alarm bells for studio brass.

Damn

>>212192826 (OP)
Why do adults give a shit about this?

>>212204556
it constantly amazes me that jews of all people dont seem to understand people lie. they learn towards nigger/female/tranny movies because thats what people "say" they like but just like this, once its time to actually demonstrate it no one shows up

just make good movies if you want people to pay to watch it

>>212204556
this seems to speak more to peoples unwilling desire to go to the theater these days rather than the films quality

>>212204531
If Disney was smart they’d make a direct to TikTok movie and do an exclusive release. That would make billions. Too bad blue haired millennials are just as out of touch with young people as the boomers these days.
>>212203822
There are no zoomers working on these dog shit films. Nudisney writers are all 40 year old childless cat moms. Redditards and soys

>>212198502
>entire film is about space and aliens
The entire climax of the movie is humans on a human military base and the main emotion of the movie is his human mom

It isn't enough to be original, you have to be original and good. I would also say they have a skewed idea about what original is, yet another movie about black bullshit and gays isn't original, even if you give it a new name. It's the same movie you made 1,000 times.

>>212192826 (OP)
>original idea

>In Disney's darkest hour...a hero will return to save millions...
>THIS SUMMER
>He's a retired junkie, the stuff of jokes and parodies. Nobody's seen or heard of him in years...
>...but he's the only shot we have.
>Let me get this straight: you want me to come back after you turned your backs on me? For one last job? Dammit...just when I think I'm out, they keep on calling me back in!

>>212204741
The movie was created for gay adults but then they changed it at the last minute, probably to avoid jail.

The last good pixar movie was Ratatouille

>b-but what about Wall-E?
it's GREAT until the humans appear, then the movie falls apart. Sadly humans are present through most of the movie. It should've been a silent movie about robots.

>UP
Great start, but it falls apart as soon as the dog is introduced. He ruins the movie.

>>212192826 (OP)
Have they tried making an original thats not shitty in the recent years?

>>212204908
I'll admit I liked Luca, but I am from a small fisher village. The gay wasn't even that much, it's kids. Giulia should have kissed Luca, even if just on the cheek.

>>212204908
>bottom one is just humans
>not even a fun conceit, just humans playing baseball

>>212192826 (OP)
just because it's original, doesn't mean it's good. I will gladly support original ideas that don't seem like shit, don't look like shit, and don't sound like shit

>But if you bought a ticket to Elio and don’t remember seeing this, it’s not just that you chose the wrong time to refill your soda. According to multiple insiders who spoke to The Hollywood Reporter, Elio was initially portrayed as a queer-coded character, reflecting original director Adrian Molina’s identity as an openly gay filmmaker. Other sources say that Molina did not intend the film to be a coming out story, as the character is 11. But either way, this characterization gradually faded away throughout the production process as Elio became more masculine following feedback from leadership. Gone were not only such direct examples of his passion for environmentalism and fashion, but also a scene in Elio’s bedroom with pictures suggesting a male crush. Hints at the trash fashion remain in the released film, with the boy wearing a cape decorated with discarded cutlery and soda can tabs, although without any explanation for the unusual attire.

> “I was deeply saddened and aggrieved by the changes that were made,” says former Pixar assistant editor Sarah Ligatich, who provided feedback during Elio production as a member of the company’s internal LGBTQ group PixPRIDE. Although she praises Sharafian and Shi as filmmakers, Ligatich notes that a number of creatives working on the film stepped down after the directors shared their first cut of the movie. “The exodus of talent after that cut was really indicative of how unhappy a lot of people were that they had changed and destroyed this beautiful work.” Another Pixar source disputes that people stepped down in response to Molina’s departure.

>The changes to Elio were clear to one former Pixar artist who worked on the film and asked to remain anonymous: “It was pretty clear through the production of the first version of the film that [studio leaders] were constantly sanding down these moments in the film that alluded to Elio’s sexuality of being queer.”

I fucking knew it

>>212192826 (OP)
Because it's not original. It's the same narcissistic, navel gazing, overblown mental health bullshit that every disney pixar movie is about these days.

>>212197176
At least it had a cool story kids could enjoy

>>212204988
I like the blimp fight in UP and the main villain. That dude whips out a gun that isn't an Incredibles comic book machine gun and starts blasting, and he's properly menacing with the only comic relief being his backsprain. That's all I remember, agree with the rest.

>>212205152
>same narcissistic, navel gazing, overblown mental health bullshit
What about this film poster/trailer has led you to believe this?

>>212197176
LIFE IS A HIGHWAY I WANNA RIDE IT ALL NIGHT LONG

>>212205194
Whiny faggot child with anxiety and adhd who has trouble getting along with other kids and feels like an outsider. That shit has been done to death for decades.

>>212192952
>Remember how cool how Cars looked?
No. That shit sold because it was the next pixar movie. Little did we know the quality would be way less than something like toy story.

>>212205221
Man I can't believe A Bug's Life was WOKE MENTAL HEALTH BULLSHIT

>>212205188
It's weird how none of the characters ever brings up the fact that this guy is much, MUCH older than the protag and should've died from old age a long time ago

>>212192826 (OP)
These movies fail because they target unprofitable demographics and they do so poorly. First of all, they’re targeting brown families, who simply can’t afford to go to the movies. It literally costs over 100 dollars for a family of 4 to see a movie if they also get a medium popcorn, 2 boxes of candy, and 2/3 drinks. Brown families are simply too poor afford that.

Even if they wanted to splurge they wouldn’t splurge on these movies because brown people aren’t woke. They vote democrat simply for gibs, not because they love gays, trannies, other types of browns, etc. They’re not interested in seeing overtly woke movies, and nowadays even if Disney/pixar try to hide the wokeness in the trailers or even remove it entirely from the movie, nobody trusts them anymore and have just lost interest.

The only people seeing this movie are woke basedlennialsn with no kids. Disney/Pixar are originals are dead because they’ve alienated the family, and especially the non-white family, audience. They have to use their old IPs that were made before they went full on woke because it’s something people recognize making them more likely to think it’ll be worth spending all the money to take their family to see it. It’s the only way they can make a movie without the general audience thinking it looks gay as fuck by default.

>>212193298
>>never mind that we don't hire anybody that can create GOOD original ideas
The sequels aren't good either retard. But they sell. That's all he's saying.

>>212205277
No, a Bug's Life is Seven Samurai with insects. Also unoriginal.

>>212192826 (OP)
Like frozen?

>>212205294
He had talking dogs I'm sure he had the tech to live to be 100

>>212192826 (OP)
Small quirk chungus child does not constitute an original idea.

>>212202371
It would misogynistic to fire her

>>212205139
Problem is, you just know that when they say they want to make the main character of their gay little animated film a harmless little xenoqueer slugkin that just wants to blossom from their cischrysalsis into a valid and vibrant alien butterflyboi, what they actually want is to make a film about some ingenuous kid getting raped to death in a slug-dick-dart crossfire by burly molluscian nonces in a cum abyss
It's all so fucking transparent

>>212205277
who are you trying to convince? the movie already flopped

>>212205318
outlier. why are you even trying to deny that original ideas don't sell? it's literally just a fact.

>>212192826 (OP)
Original doesn't automatically make it good.


Originality is only part of the equation

>>212205139
yeah, anon was right as usual

>>212205294
wiki says hes 92. ive had multiple grand parents live longer and still be pretty active and if you want the le old time adventure may type of character irl there is ernst junger who died a month before 103

>>212202771
(((These guys))) already own all the money in the world and can print more if they need it. They dont care about losing a few bucks to spread their propaganda

>>212205409
Jeep moving the goalposts faggot mouse

>>212203091
>love and dignity
lol, their delusions never cease to amaze.

>>212192826 (OP)
>fans don't support original movies
Yes that's why we all hated Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Monsters Inc, Wall-E, Ratatouille, Up, and Inside Out.

>>212205309
Thread

>>212205269
Toy Story 4 should not have been made. I knew when they announced it that it would be a shameless cash grab. The Light Year movie on the other hand was a massive missed opportunity that they should have done 10 years earlier

Cause you know what gets people to check out your movie? Shaming them for not checking out your movie. That has worked all of none so far. Maybe it'll work this time around.

>>212192826 (OP)
People don't hate "original" ideas, they hate "bad" ideas.
These retards are too corporate and creatively bankrupt to come up with good ideas, so they just have to continually copy good ideas from the past.
Of course, since they're evil, narcissist cunts, they just blame their consumers instead of their own horrible, dogshit mismanagement for the problem. This is normal for the bloodsucking pedophile vampires involved in the entertainment industry.

>>212205277
You're a polemical shit brain. No one wants a queer coded, deracinated protagonist. A fucking bug has a more universal story than that

>>212203091
lol every single latino I have ever met has hated black people. I used to live in LA, she can't fool me.

>>212205309
Work in a cinema for longer than a week or two at some point in your life and it will become hilariously apparent to you that the lumpen brown barely-literate masses are by a long shot the biggest cash cows for cheap animated bilge and slopcorn.
No money? No problem.
Browns have zero reverence to the notion of frugality. Saving money is an alien and dread concept. If they're going to the cinema, alongside their four fucking ADHD maniac kids that have already plucked millions of sweets from the overpriced aisles, they're gonna getting the biggest buckets of butter-laden popcorn available, one for each kid. Huge sodas too. They'll hardly eat any of it, but they'll buy it. Popcorn's basically overpriced confetti for kids.
You are right though to some degree. Browns don't want to watch this gay shit. They want cheap spectacle and wacky high-concept adventures that appeals to their socially conservative values like family and not bumming toddlers.

>>212192826 (OP)
I hate brown people, and character designs that look like 3D Cal Arts. I also didn't even know this movie existed until articles talking about how it flopped.

>>212205655
>People don't hate "original" ideas, they hate "bad" ideas
Then why are the sequels doing better? They're also shit.

>>212205519
What the fuck are you talking about? original ideas generally do not do well. This isn't up for debate you fuckin contrarian.

>>212205954
>bad movie probably about gays or brown people
>bad movie linked to a good movie with a white character
gee I don't know

>>212206085
moana 2 wasn't white people dumbass

>>212192826 (OP)
The pitch barely sounds like a movie. There is no "hook" to it. Also Pixar have been shit for like 15 years now, or at least ten. So the reputation preceeds them. Add in that fucking atrocious art style seemingly all American cartoons use noe and there you go.

>>212192826 (OP)
How can you pre emptively be a "fan" of an original ip movie before you see it? They just want to built in audience because they are lazy and don't want to put in effort to make something real and good

>>212205799
>Work in a cinema for longer than a week or two at some point in your life and it will become hilariously apparent to you that the lumpen brown barely-literate masses are by a long shot the biggest cash cows for cheap animated bilge and slopcorn.
Which makes it even more baffling that Disney creates all these gay movies aimed at 30yo lefties.

>>212206231
They still think the Pixar brand name carries clout when its been becoming increasingly tarnished since even before Lasseter left.

>>212197031
Here's the thing - they were competent. They didn't need to be E.T. - they just needed a high concept kids could grasp, be technologically advanced and then at the end be competently crafted kids animation. Pixar can't even do that now.

>>212206219
>Add in that fucking atrocious art style seemingly all American cartoons use noe and there you go.
Art style aside that movie just doesn't look good. It's cheap, empty and has no magic.

>>212205982
It's more that new ideas don't get funding. Because Jewish studios treat media like business not like art because they have no soul. They are less likely to risk money very few original ideas get a budget. It's not if they do well or not. If they get the budget and marketing they can do well if they are actually good. And then the vampires suck the IP dry.

>>212206415
>Because Jewish studios treat media like business not like art because they have no soul.
If studios are after money, why do the make faggy stuff like Elio, Joker 2 or Ironheart? Those are clearly not made with money in mind.

>>212205445
It's a tacit threat that if you don't support "original" ideas, then all you'll get is remakes, adaptations, and other shit like that. The issue, however, is that we're going to get those anyways. Hollywood is never going to stop buying book and comic and game rights. That's been a thing Hollywood does for as long as there's been movies. Hollywood will also continue to occasionally gamble on original ideas, sometimes even with large budgets and overt public support.

Elio shitting the bed because it sucks and no one likes it isn't bad for movies. Bad movies deserve to fail. Bad movies should fail more often. Shit sucks because bad movies were massively successful, not because we didn't see "Fat Gay Retard in Space"

>>212206517
Because they think that's what modern audiences want. It's also why they take that shit out when releasing in China and the Shittle East. You think it's about morals?

If leftism wasn't so apparently big in the West, if Twitter didn't have a bunch of pronouns and rainbows and faggots and over night turned into literal Nazis, the Jewish producers would immediately make every movie about an Aryan killing niggers.

Granted there is an element of them that wants the demoalization and normalization of faggotry and brown invasion. But it's just a question of do they love money more or destroying civilization.

>>212206415
>if they are actually good
No matter what they release you'll just say that the new movies are bad. This is just you wanting to shit on anything new and I don't really care about your opinion. New movies do not do well. Period.

I mean they're right. Original ideas aren't supported by people, despite them saying they're sick of remakes and reboots. It is how it is.

>>212206656
>Because they think that's what modern audiences want.
But they seem to not learn. How deep are we now into DEI flops? Endgame was 2019, so about 6 years. all those streaming services even made rules for DEI, so did the Oscars.

>>212206660
Hard to say, but remake/reboot/generic idea #45211 staring a brown person isn't very appealing to me.

>>212192826 (OP)
>original ideas
>ET but gay and lame

>original movie
>clearly calarts style
tiresome

>>212192826 (OP)
>lonely child befriends ayylmao. hijinks ensue.
Wow, how fresh and original.

>>212206748
What non-DEI or non-woke movies were released in the past 6 years that you feel were looked over or snubbed by the academy or audiences?

>>212206656
Meds

>>212206219
Aliens as gay awakening metaphor sounds like an adult-child situation. yikes

>>212206916
The topic is flops. Tell me which flop didn't deserve being a flop.

>>212205139
this is all so dumb. they just have boring internal monologues instead of imagination, by living inside their butt canals:

no need to come out, just exist as an interesting character

If Elio isn't masculine, make it comical that he overcomes situations by not being masc but a smart quick thinker or some shit

don't preach, just hug trees or he creates amazing garden designs

Male crush? just make it ambiguous like good friends who look great hanging out together

They can't just be laidback + have some quirky coming of age like all the 80s kid slop, they gotta have manifestos Zzzzzzz

>>212206960
Most meds aren't that brown except Sicilians.

>>212192826 (OP)
>release a film about shitskins beaner when shitskin beaners are in the process of destroying cities all across the U.S.

>>212207242
shut up faggot

>>212204917
I don't think he could do more damage to the brand than what's already been done
what corpse hasn't rotted yet that we can kick, live action adaptations?
>with pedro pascal as Buzz Lightyear and Chris Evans as Woody and introducing Rachel Zegler as Bo Peep

>>212205139
Based on this post Pixar is complete pozzed and has to be burned to the ground. Basically Disney now has to constantly forced them to undo crap.

>>212192826 (OP)
knowing lizzo's ugly doesn't make you gay.

>>212204123
Please tell me that artist is not allowed near kids.

>>212192826 (OP)
Book of life mogs Coco as the mexican animation kino and Im tired of pretending it isnt

>>212197026
God this makes me MEGA MAN mad
>>212199446
LOL'd

>>212192826 (OP)
>More "Not for you" Jisney shart
And it bombed? Say whaaat?

>>212198785
It's the lack of artistic discipline and no sense of aesthetics that makes it suck. The technology can either be an asset or a crutch.

>>212207710
even with a look you like it would be a bland uninteresting movie.

>>212203068
Clod was a W tho

>>212192826 (OP)
>make shitty movie
>blame the fans when it bombs
Can we change the channel already. Getting tired of these reruns.

>>212202509
>fellaters
The feminine plural is "fellatrices," you fucking pleb.

>>212204392
Thank you effortposter. You highlight things I didn't notice.
>>212207859
Sure, but I'd like as few layers of garbage on my kino as possible. The story to The Thief and the Cobbler (recobbled cut) is fairly thin, but with the quality of the animation aesthetically and technically, it's still quite enjoyable.

>>212201460
How long until referencing Fleak is considered a dogwhistle by lobotomized journalists?

Here are the original ideas btw

>>212208378
Literally in the background blink and youll miss it gayness for an actual second, whitetards are fragile freaks

>>212208378
>gay
>black
>ugly face
>Why does no one like original ideas?

>>212208171
is fellatrix a word?

>>212208457
>Literally in the background blink and youll miss it gayness for an actual second, whitetards are fragile freaks
You do realize gay isn't a race and blacks don't like gays either, right?

>>212208457
Are brown and black people all gay or something? I guess Pixar seems to think so.

>>212201460
>a 12-year-old boy loses his ability to walk in an accident. Luckily a helpful furry creature from another dimension appears and takes the boy on a fantasy adventure, where he finds a way to walk again.
Lol

>>212208587
It does seem a touch.... peculiar, if you catch my drift

>>212192858
I saw a trailer for it. It was basically the entire movie.

4chan has completely lost the plot on what "woke" means.
It was fine and probably necessary for a board full of guys with daddy issues

>>212208658
>It was basically the entire movie.
the trailer really felt like there's nothing more to the movie.

>>212208688
get fucked retard >>212205139

>>212208688
>you have to confuse the word woke goy
>become confused it's just so confusing

>>212192826 (OP)
>Fans don't support original movies at the box office
Disney's idea of "original" is to take an existing idea and add "but what if it was black women?" Also Disney, "Why is everyone a bigoted racist?"

Such a strange world to live in where billion dollar companies are blaming the audience for their misgivings. Seeems very tone deaf to me.

>>212208761
So they deliberately removed anything woke yet you're still pissing and sharting that it is over an imagined final product?

>>212208855
>take an existing idea and add "but what if it was black women?"
Hot.

>>212202542
>the “literally sell your body to get back at your mom making you do things” movie flopped spectacularly

>>212208457
Why put them in if they are just blink and you miss it? What's the reason other than to normalize it? It's a tactic the left has been doing for 40 years, pushing the Overton window. If you noontime though, you're fragile.

>Why are whites so fragile?
>also, we need black and brown people in media or they can't relate, also take out that gay scene for the Chinese and Muslim release

>>212192826 (OP)
This 'original IP is the problem' psyop really showed me how powerful narrative is, and how most people live fully inside narrative.

>>212202771
We shall see. Toy Story 4 was the weakest of the series and I don’t know anyone who would take their kids to Toy Story 5 since they haven’t seen 4 since it was in theaters. The money is better spent someplace else that isn’t shoving propaganda down your throat.

>>212209025
>Why put them in if they are just blink and you miss it?
you can bet it was originally much more prominent and there was back and forth fighting after the test audience hated it. so that here is the compromise.

>>212208834
is that kyle carozza

>>212192826 (OP)
Well their original ideas are actually not that original, look gay and retarded and I hate them

>>212208457
Oh you misunderstood. Nobody gives two shits what you think, if we get wind of the fact that the movie isn’t made for us, we simply don’t watch, and don’t pay for our kids to watch it either

>>212209407
Lol, reddit race.

Grow up, pasty piggies.

>>212192826 (OP)
>Original
>Looks exactly like all the puke they have regurgitated for the last 8 years or so

>>212192880
They're not better than this. Pixar is filled with SSRI maxed LGBT zoomers that probably used imagen for the character design.

>>212209480
Grow up and watch literal kid movies about faggot brown people?

>>212208457
>we only put a few drops of piss in your drink, you won't even notice it!

>>212208658
>>212208728
yeah, no fucking way this actually wasn't a huge problem
>trailer for the movie is beat for beat condensed plot points of the movie from start to finish
>everything is spelled out from themes to relationships between characters and the obvious conclusions
unless this thing ends with perfect ultimate great moth father consuming all life on earth then there is no where for the movie to go that the trailer hadn't shown. combine that with mediocre animation and cookie cutter art design, and there's nothing to pay money for

>>212209742
And then
>oh, you agreed to drink a little bit of piss, great now I don't even need to hide it anymore.

>>212209480
All I have to do is deny you faggots my money and presence, and I win every time.

>>212209742
bravo

>>212207432
>Pierre Joubert (June 27, 1910 – January 13, 2002) was a French illustrator and comics artist. He was closely associated with the creation of Scouting and the popular look of Boy Scouts in France and Belgium, comparable to the American artist Norman Rockwell.
U

>>212207432
>Pierre Joubert (June 27, 1910 – January 13, 2002) was a French illustrator and comics artist. He was closely associated with the creation of Scouting and the popular look of Boy Scouts in France and Belgium, comparable to the American artist Norman Rockwell.

>>212203759
>lower half of body is literally a fish
>still has a hell of an ass
Damn.

>>212207432
>Pierre Joubert (June 27, 1910 – January 13, 2002) was a French illustrator and comics artist. He was closely associated with the creation of Scouting and the popular look of Boy Scouts in France and Belgium, comparable to the American artist Norman Rockwell.

>>212192826 (OP)
It doesn't matter how "original" your idea is if it sucks in the end.
Being "original" is only HALF the necessary equation. The other half is actually being good.

>>212207432
You sound closeted

>>212192826 (OP)
The "original ideas" are trannies and blacks and feminism no thanks
Make a movie starring straight white people with no liberal bullshit and I'll watch it

>>212204741
A lot of adults are Disney adults now.

>>212211568
His drawings of girl scouts look pretty non-sexual when compared to his drawings of boy scouts
He was definitely attracted to little boys

>disney can you make something original pls, I'm tied of remakes and sequels
>ok here you are *shits on the table*
>wtf that's just a pile of shit
>YOU SEE YOU DON'T LIKE IT I TOLD YOU NOBODY CARES ABOUT ORIGINAL MOVIES NOBODY SUPPORTS ORIGINAL MOVIES THIS IS WHY I DON'T DO THAT
childish behavior

>>212197026
Wtf happened?

>>212192826 (OP)
Sorry I don't watch CalArts style bean mouth sloppy slop no matter how "original".

>>212197031
>things haven't gotten measurably worse, you were just a dumb child!
I see the latest pysop has just been released: not gonna work, dumbass.

>>212192826 (OP)
>It's YOUR fault, chud!

No, I don't think I'll take responsibility for that. Have fun becoming irrelevant.

>>212192826 (OP)

Predictability puts asses in theatre seats because people aren't willing to piss away 30 dollars and 2 hours of their lives on something they may or may not like when there are other options available for entertainment.

Disney and the big studios know this, so they've put all their money into franchise sequel slop, and actively encouraging the public to embrace predictable cookie cutter house style.


They did this. They trained their audience to consume this product and now that's all they will consume.


Disney is the McDonalds of entertainment. To expect anything else of them is moronic.

>>212192826 (OP)
>People don't like when our gay race communism director uses a kids cartoon as there own personal therapy session
Shocking

>>212201460
>How original

>>212215723
Its a french artist, no shit.

>>212198607
>dante's inferno, but with candy
>Limbo: The Sugar-Free Zone

hmm...

>>212192826 (OP)
show me the original idea becuase I dont see it in this composite attraction charecter

>>212192826 (OP)
>sickening jew pedophile make child molestation movie: brown edition
>why did nobody watch it?!?!?!
we're sick if your shit jew demons

>>212192826 (OP)
do better, disney

>>212216969
Post wrist

>>212197218
>sits
GOOD MORNING SAAR

Go back to white people, animals or inanimate objects, no not aliens. Then people will watch.

>>212215723
He was involved in designing the era's french boyscout uniforms too kek

test

>>212192826 (OP)
This movie looks stupid and ugly and I like movies about hot princesses, fucks sake.

>>212197031
The Incredibles is literally the only watchable superhero movie in the world.

>>212207368
>THIS SUMMER
>THE LEGEND
>THAT STARTED IT ALL
>https://youtu.be/sOcP3i-zm-s?t=16
>THE LION KING LIVE ACTION: 2: 2

>>212202509
Can confirm, I've gotten some good action from asian chicks.

>>212208637
ableist propaganda

I will re-write Ellio
He starts as a chump pathetic loser, he gets an important retard check and starts
SELF IMPROVING
and gets fucking RIPPENED and chadlike
then at the end of the movie the girl that rejected him begs for the dick
"no"

>>212192826 (OP)
>The kid was supposed to be a closeted homo
What the FUCK is the problem with Disney jews? Strange World wasn't enough? Glad I didn't watch this shit in theaters

>>212217442
I'd commend them for having the balls to make live action Lion King 1 1/2 or 2
god a D+ live action lion guard... na, they'd never do that but it would be pretty damn funny

>>212203759

>>212204908
the shaped that ruined western animation.

>>212198551
>>212203271
ESG visuals send the casuals away

>>212192826 (OP)
STOP MAKING CHILDREN GAY YOU FUCKING PEDOS

>>212203663
>if they want to make money and not be instantly forgotten.
Nobody is forgetting Disney anytime, mate

everyone is dodging Disney like plague

>>212192826 (OP)
I thought young boy ends up earths ambassador in the galactic Senate is a fantastic idea, it's not that I don't want to support original ideas, it's that I know Disney puts out nothing but trash, I didn't trust them to make it good

>effeminate
>eyepatch
>pussy coded
are they trying to tank the company on purpose or something? can they really just be that incompetent

>>212192826 (OP)
Why doesn't his eye patch have a band?
It's unnerving

>>212197031
Kind of an odd flex to own yourself in your own post but ok bud.