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It's kino and mogs '71 Charlie
2005 follows the book much more closer, the tone is better, Wonka is better, the characters are deeper, Charlie wins by actually being a good boy
>>212202052 (OP)There's no mogging here. Both are good and both are drastically different in style. I prefer Gene Wilder, though.
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>>212202052 (OP)how old are you?
>>212202052 (OP)>mogs '71It doesn't, but I did enjoy it.
>>212202278Probably really old since this movie was 20 years ago.
>>212202325It hard and brutally mogs and gapes 71
>>212202052 (OP)The Depp version is the best. I would give it a standing ovation.
2005 one is way better to masturbate to than the 1971 one
I haver never seen the 1971 version and I don't feel the need to
>>212202118agreed, although the musical numbers in 2005 are much better imo
>>212202118>2005 follows the book much more closerNo it doesn't.
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Other than the negro girl, this was actually kino.
>>212203596Yes it does, you haven't read the book
All they did was add the backstory of Wonka, which was also approved by the estate
>>212203596Reply to the right person next time el tardo.
>>212203628>you haven't read the bookRead it in grade school. The Depp one changes a lot more than the Gene Wilder one.
>also approved by the estateWho the fuck cares?
>>212203682>Read it in grade school. The Depp one changes a lot more than the Gene Wilder one.Name five things.
>>212203682OK sis, your proof that 05 changes more than Wilder? Considering the Wilder version literally added an entirely new scene that made zero sense and the office scene wasn't in the book
AUGUSTUS GLOOP
AUGUSTUS GLOOP
THE GREAT BIG GREEDY
NINCOMPOOP!
>>212203748He is quite literally me although I'm not that gross, I am that fat
>>212203722>Considering the Wilder version literally added an entirely new sceneThe 05 version added an entirely new PLOT.
>>212203627That entire movie was stinkier than cow shit on a summers day.
Anyone got that post about someone getting Wilder to sign his inflation fetish art?
>>21220377405 added a small backstory to Wonka which made sense and was approved by the estate
Now again, what changes did 05 make to the book?
>>212203851>a small backstoryThat shit was like a half hour of the movie. It was not small. It was a giant change.
>approved by the estateOnce more, with feeling. WHO THE FUCK CARES?
>05 changes a ton from the book
OK like what?
>uh WHO CARES
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>>212203903I told you exactly what changed. You said "it doesn't count".
>>212202349It doesn't, especially with the music. There's too much CG in the new one. But it's still good.
>>212203949Again, they added the backstory, which made sense and was approved by the estate
They didn't change anything from the book, except maybe the oompa-loompas not wearing deerskins
But you're the one that said they changed a ton
Book sucks, who cares. Wah wah this one is more accurate no this one is noooo the turd I just made this morning was approved by the estate. Shut up nerds.
>>212203627Yeah it was good and I really wish there were less brown people in the little European town in the 1920s or whatever.
>>212203989>They didn't change anything from the book>they added the backstoryPick one. You can't make up your mind.
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>>212204011Oh I see, this is American "education" at work
>>212204042ESL detected. I suspected such.
>>212204042Her handwriting style was approved by the estate. Be more understanding.
>>212202052 (OP)Faggy kids go for the 05 version. Adults and based kids go for the 71 version.
>>212202052 (OP)I like both frankly but 05 is a funner watch
>>212203627Is there any weird fetish shit in this movie?
>>212204042That's not "American education", that's "socio-economic factors" in action
>>212204079Oh yeah? Show me the Violet ass shots in the 71 version then
>>212204127>Is there any weird fetish shit in this movie?Not really. A black cop guy gradually gets fatter and fatter as the movie goes on.
>>212202052 (OP)Its decent and has charm. I never really understood the hate other than not being the same thing again
The 71 version doesn't even make sense
Charlie literally treated, true it was at the behest of Grandpa, but he blatantly didn't follow the rules
>b-but le gobstopper
Copout
Not to mention the Slugworth was a Wonka agent shit makes zero sense
>>212204159It's ridiculously over the top compared to the 71 version. Not to say that it's wrong, since the book descriptions make everything sound ridiculous and over the top, but it's a big shock going from the much more subdued and grounded version.
>>212202052 (OP)orange/green midget>pajeet midgets.
>3 wonka movies
>no Great Glass Elevator movie ever
>>212204227>much more subdued and groundedYou mean "cheaper and shittier"
You're the kind of contrarian to say Heat wasn't as good as LA Takedown
>>212203628>all they did was add the backstorythat's a very big change, and they also added a completely different ending
>>212204375Yes, the age and budget was a big reason for it but what I said is still right. I'm not saying one is better than the other, just pointing out that the tonal shift from one to the other naturally turned some people off.
>>212204420>that's a very big change, and they also added a completely different endingB-b-b-b-but it was approved by the e-e-estate!
>>212204375>cheaper and shittier>than hiring an ugly pajeet for an oompa loompa and CGcopying him 20 million times.
>>212204420>completely different endingLiterally the same as the book
>backstoryApproved by the estate and made sense, which is more than I can say for the shit in 71
Also not sure why that one anon is absolutely fucking seething about this lmfao
Grunka Lunka dunkety dasis
The secret of Slurm's on a need-to-know basis
Grunka Lunka dunkety din-gredient
You should not ask about the secret ingredient!
>>212204512>Approved by the estateWhy do you keep saying this like anyone fucking cares what the estate thinks? Its not the author. Its the author's money grubbing kids.
>>212204512I just spoke to the estate and they said that you're wrong.
-This comment has been approved by the estate.
>>212204548I care about what the estate thinks.
>>212204511CGI Pajeet was more impressive in 2005 than paying 10 midgets 50 bucks each was in 1971
Redditors that can't think for themselves like 71 because they saw it as kids
People that actually think for themselves prefer 05
>>212204867Those midgets were 1000% more soulful than that CGI jeet.
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>I am the Estate
>>212202052 (OP)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7PAKDOFCGo
CHEWING CHEWING CHEWING CHEWING
>>212202052 (OP)Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?
More like Willy Wonka and the Kino Factory.
>>212202278I was 8 when Burton's version came out and I agree with OP although I also really loved the original as well.
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>why is it bad?
>backstory filtered tards
>retarded reddit meme
>its different so its bad
I see, this is the genius of 71fags?
The cunny is better in the 05 version
This is indisputable
>>212205149Faggit screencaps should be autoban.
>>212205372Just pointing out the stupid mentality of film "critics"
Also I don't know why hiroshimoot doesn't just make twitter, tiktok, reddit etc threads an instaban
I watched it on cinemas as a kid and thought it sucked. Johnny Depp was goofy in a gay way.
Never seen the original and likely never will.
>frogposter makes the dumbest post in the thread yet
Every single time.
>Juicing room? No such thing.
>>212202052 (OP)Making Wonka unlikable was stupid. Also the color palette sucks.
>>212206060This, the colourful, over the top, zany factory was simply too crazy for a world where we have to deal with trans deaths and Palestinian oppression
They should've toned it down to reflect the real world
loved it immediately. wonka is so cute not gay
>good morning, starshine
>..
>the earth says..
>hello!
>>212206177>They should've toned it down to reflect the real worldThis was not approved by the estate.
>>212202052 (OP)Its kino and anyone that hates it is almost guaranteed to be a faggot boomer who thinks their precious Wilder movie is God's gift to man, this untouchable monolith of humanity's excellence. Fuck them, whinny retards.
>>212202052 (OP)Why has no one ever made a movie of the sequel book?
You guys only like it for the hundreds of hot women eye candy.
>>212206704Wrong movie you retarded bot
>>212203627I laughed out loud like a retard when the negro explained why everyone calls her noodle and pulls out a necklace with an N
>>212206635iirc Dahl forbade it after the original Wonka movie was so unfaithful
there's never been a remake better than the original
>>212207144True, except 2005 isn't a remake? It's a new more faithful adaptation of the book
>>212206177Britain isnโt depressing but itโs not near as depressing as the Britain in Burtonโs film.
>>212207144Oceanโs 11
The Alamo
>>212207211>the town is grey and depressing>the factory is colourfulYou're getting there anon, you're so close
>>212207211It's getting pretty dire.
>>212207176Is it though? Theyโre both change a good bit.
>>212207248>itโs supposed to look like shit It doesnโt have to.
>mogs '71 Charlie
it's the one time i don't think tim burton did something better than someone else
>>212207270It's England, that's just how it is
And the film is creating a juxtaposition between the two areas
>>212207324No itโs not. As bad as England is itโs still not as bad as this film. And since it sucks, what was the point of the ugly color filter? Showing it as it is would have been sufficient.
>>212207484The point is to show the grey bleak world to juxtapose it against the colourful whimsical factory
Are you fucking retarded, how do you not get this?
>>212207484The estate approved the color filter.
The estate has completely mindbroken him
>>212207638Can you get this in writing from the estate? I need this approved before I can form an opinion on this matter.
Definitely the 2005 version, I stood and clapped after watching it in the cinema.
>>212207529And my point is they went too far. How is that too complex a thought for you?
>>212209505>aaaiiieeeee there's too much bleakness in this film where are my quips where is my safe space
>>212209505England literally looked like that before the Muslims came over to bring a little color to the country.
>>2122071443:10 To Yuma
True Grit
Originals were boomerslop
Wonka threads are supposed to be horny, not just 2 pedantic retards arguing about which garbage movie is more faithful to the world's shittiest kids book
what happened to this budding young actress?
>>212210582I can see them budding
>>212210582The estate trafficked her to Little St James.