He will never be topped

>>212205712 (OP)
Cool looking Batman but Affleck was an awful Bruce Wayne.

>>212205990
He was a great Bruce Wayne, what are you saying?

>>212205712 (OP)
>He will never be topped

So much we lost...

>>212206042
>>212205990
>>212206101
>>212206128
>>212206104
A movie with afleck batman could ge god tier, he looks intimidating, handsome and smart.

>His suit looks like the animated but not corny or cringe like marvel ones.

Why they did it...now we got boring nu-batman.. this is all your fault

>>212205712 (OP)
I don't like how fat his face is, it looks ridiculous in the cowl. Batman should have a chiseled jaw.

he's literally the bottom, even clooney was better

>>212205712 (OP)
>>212205990
great batman, great bruce wayne, terrible movies.
His best showing was in fucking Suicide Squad

>>212206262
I heard that the script Ben Affleck turned in was too violent and creepy, being written almost like a horror movie. It also featured other Bat-Family characters that at the time WB was so sure about.

I was topped last night.

>>212206351
>terrible movies.
BvS is unironically one of the best capeshit movies ever made. It's almost wrong to call it capeshit, it is capekino.

>>212206460
I never made this connection before, Snyder is fucking brilliant.

>>212205712 (OP)
Thats because hes a bottom lmao

>>212205712 (OP)
Already has.

>>212206514
They also show plenty of scared horses running around during that sequence in BvS.

>>212206460
its doodoo kaka but it has a very solid fight scene with Batman at the end.
Everything else is cg garbage. Yeah they did decent storyboarding for the film but nothing looks right in motion. Reminds me of the Hobbit in a lot of places

>>212205990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ixaEnZHtH8

bro this is one of the best Bruce Wayne scenes in any Batman movie.

>>212206596
I love Zack Snyder pottery.

>>212206588
>Nolan
>shot composition
Actual retard.

>>212205712 (OP)
Yikes
the same problem as all other Batmans, famous actor who has no ability to do fight scenes, mediocre director in adapting Batman and his universe to live action, the only good thing is the costume by far the best

>>212206588
>blue and orange are my favorite colors: the director

>>212206667
nigga you don't even know what shot comp is. You just want to watch your video game movies

>>212206545
how the fuck haven't we got a sequel yet

Reminder that the fight between Superman and Batman is a complete recreation of Batman's childhood trauma shown in the beginning of the movie.
You can compare it shot by shot, dialogue by dialogue. It's fucking beautiful.

>>212206384
the animated series has a horror-lite feel though

This is why this man was born. To play Batman. I had a feeling about him when I first countenanced his visage as a young toddler. I knew he would have a lasting legacy.

>>212206823
because its shit

>>212206101
As what? Crazy guy in an asylum?

>>212206824
It's like poetry, it rhymes.

>>212206774
>>212206588
I'm sorry, but BvS mogs TDK in terms of visual comp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q559ZAYkH1k

>>212206774
>t. Dunning-Kruger retard

>>212206877
>>212206824
It's great.

>>212206823
Reeves takes his time writing scripts.
The first film also took a while until thescript was ready.

>>212206905
>I lifted the pretty picture without considering it, I'm an artist now
>>212206945
>random academia focused buzzword

>>212207087
Shut up, pleb.

Uberkino.

>>212206128
What is this slop even supposed to be? Are they holding a glowing dinner plate?

>>212206545
>Tranny Batman who needs to get high to defeat a random loser
HahahahahAHAHahahahaha what a faggot

>>212207126
It looks nice, sure. But after Nolan, one realized once again one was watching children's schlock.

>>212207126
visual mirroring is not exactly a new thing
I recommend pic related. It does everything BVS was trying to do but good. Even the director copped to that fact by having it be the movie Bruce watches instead of the Mark of Zorro

I am still sad that we will never see Batman fucking Harley Quinn.

>>212206101
He was more than topped if you catch my drift

>>212207205
Batman watched The Mark of Zorro, actually. Excalibur is just the movie that was also in exhibition.

It's the whole reason why he started to brand. He went back to his origin branding his enemies like his childhood's hero. This is to show that he was already regressing.

>>212206128
>literally an ESL

>>212207205
>I recommend pic related
Really, nigga?

>>212207197
Wonder Woman's lasso would be my guest.

>>212206545
based

>>212207197
Wonder Woman's lasso would be my guess.

>>212206823
the script was barely finished last week, unfortunately

>>212206847
it does,yes

>>212205712 (OP)
TRUTH NUKE

>>212206905
>metropolis and gotham are twin cities

>>212206128
I forgot that ZSJL hinted at them having a thing, just makes it even more ass.

>>212207204
>But after Nolan, one realized once again one was watching children's schlock.
Okay, retard.

Reminder that this bitch says:
>A man like that, words don't stop him. Do you know what stops him? A FIST"
After trying to speak with Batman, and getting sonic attacked and then shot at by 3 huge caliber auto-machine turrets, he used that advice to show off his strength and convince Batman that it was futile to fight him, to get him to submit and listen.
He slightly increased his strength, from shoving Batman 60 feet, and then throwing and then flying Batman through a fucking building, then he says:
>"If I wanted it, you'd be dead already"
Finally, it was actually words that got through to Batman, and not fists.

I fucking love BvS.

>>212205712 (OP)
If it was up to Zack Snyder he would have been topped. Violently. In prison. And there’s no, no consent there. It would have been an evil occasion.

>>212207519
Nothing Gunn does will ever come close to this.

>>212207450
therefore it was perfect for the script to feel that way

>>212207532
It happened in the cartoons, though.

>>212207586
Maybe it was the violence.
Gareth Evans was hired to direct a "prequel" of sorts focusing on Deathstroke killing Koreans or something, and Ben Affleck's movie would be in the same vein with chopped limbs and stuff, i guess.

>>212207651
That doesn't make it good, it was bad there too. These two have 0 romantic chemistry in everything outside of the DCAU, and even there it only worked because it had a mediocre adaptation of Diana.

But then again, the DCEU had a terrible adaptation of Diana so it lines up.

>>212207568
good morning saaaar

>>212207776
I liked in the cartoon, and i sort of liked in the movie. In ZSJL they moved together during battle as if they were one.

>>212207519

>>212205990
Wrong, you silly bitch. Snoogins.

>>212207929

>>212206823
Warner Bros is incompetent under Zaslav. That's why it took so long to do Dunc 2 and 3, why Nu Game of Thrones has blacks, and why the Daffy and Porky movie was sold to an indie studio, and Amazon had to pick up the Batman animated show.

>>212207776
Based, these two should never be together.

>>212206772
Its a fucking party at night what color was it supposed to be? What color was the fire supposed to be?

>>212207126
"You're letting him kill Susan and Dave." (What Clark would have said if Bruce's parents were named Susan and Dave.)

Capeshit needs it's own board.

>>212208194
>if
What a word.

Batman killing these guys with total impunity and overwhelming cruelty was so fucking funny.

>>212208209
>it's

>>212207284
>>212207205
>Mark of Zorro and Batman brands people
>Excalibur
>Bruce builds the Bat armor and holy Lance of a stone sent from heaven
Its like pottery......

This scene was so short but it is fucking awesome.

>>212208142
The guy that wrote this comic like writing them as a couple, though. It is way he wrote that page to be so sexual.

>>212208274
>Excalibur rises from the water from the lady in the lake
>The Lance rises from the water from Lois

Absolute fucking pottery, my guys.

>>212208492
i dont like how his assault rifle disappears once he climbs into the truck

>>212208547
>everyone walks up to him, braces for him to hit them, then goes flying

I hate modern action so much it's unreal

>>212208498
Zack Snyder even did some promotional photos where Amy Adams is depicted as the Lady of the Lake.

>>212208382
Rucka? He's stated in interviews that their relationship is purely platonic. The guy has been pushing for Diana to have a female love interest since the time he wrote this book, I doubt there was an sexual intent. Especially if you actually read the book, they do nothing but argue throughout.

>>212208955
k-kino?

>>212206772
>>212208151
Actually blue and orange were chosen and were dominant colours for about a decade because some guy at a film school determined those were the most generally pleasing colours for a viewer to see when looking at something.

>>212208853
Rucka, yes. He wrote ship-y stuff about them before in other comics. He wanted to write a comic series about them as well.

>>212208745
almost like theyre trying to catch him alive or else face supermans lasers

>>212208745
Pic rel + >>212209057

>>212208853
>The guy has been pushing for Diana to have a female love interest since the time he wrote this book
He has?

>>212209018
>>212208853
He kept writing them flirting with each other in the JLA comic, i think.

>>212209219
Yeah, he's the one that canonized her being bisexual and losing her virginity to the women on her island.

>>212205990
Unironically no he was a much better Bruce than he was a Batman
You see it a lot more in ZSJL especially
Funnily enough for all the crying the old Animated fans did at the Snyder movies his Batman is way WAYYYYYYY more in line with BTAS in that movie with his banter with Alfred and friends than most of the other films

>>212209281
That was Joe Kelly, the run wasn't very good in general.

>>212209428
Oh, yeah. The Superman guy, who wrote about Superman getting mad at Not-Authority. I thought his run in JLA was cool.

Le journal:
I never told this to anyone else before but when I was a wee lad, I had the biggest crush on Ben Affleck. I wished we would be husband and husband. I started a group on yahoo groups with faux naked pictures of him. It was so romantic. <3 Ben Affleck

>>212209392
Ben Affleck in ZSJL felt a lot like 70's Batman, when he would act very fatherly and wholesome with others, something that changed after the 80s reboot and writers started to write him as some sort of manipulative hard-ass that everyone needs to be rebel against. I fucking hate how every Batman adjacent comic was about how much of an asshole Batman was to Nightwing, or Batgirl, or whoever else.

>>212208800

>>212209617
That's why I love the Flash movie. He even has the blue suit from the 70s comics.

>>212209657

>>212206042
Only in the most superficial way imaginable: that comparison pic. He's not even half the chad TAS Bruce was.

>>212205712 (OP)
At what? Being the worst batman?

if I post in this thread, will Ben Affleck come to my house to give me a hug? Because that has been my lifelong dream.

>>212206351
>suicide squad
you mean the movie where he jumps deadshot who was with his daughter in a dark alley? I've never seen character assassination this bad before.

>>212209018
The only real instance of this was in Blackest Night but it was an ooc moment that was literally never referenced again after that.

>>212210343
could you at least learn how to properly make webms before posting this liquid shit on my board?

>>212210404
Shut up, fag.

I masturbate while thinking about Ben Affleck every single night [I'm not kidding]

There is no way that Ben Affleck is actually aware of this websight, is there?

>>212210565
Who do you think is posting most of the BvS threads after all this time

Great eye to detail.

>>212209809
>superficial way imaginable
Standard Synder adaptation then

>>212210636
true

>>212210071
>There is no way that Ben Affleck is actually aware of this websight, is there?
You'll need to post the address here first retard
How's he going to show up otherwise?

>>212210591

>>212209809
>>212210664
Faggots aways say this but then go on to praise the most braindead adaptation.
I like it specially when people say it is "all style and no substance", ignoring the fact that style IS substance. It is a visual medium.

Here's a pic to illustrate my point.

Just in case Ben Affleck is reading these words:
you are the greatest best person who has ever graced god's green earth

Reminder that this movie is for chuds.

smells like Poo ITT

Man of Steel definitely had a blue tint to it but the color grading in BvS I thought was excellent. ZSJL had a grey palette but that’s because Snyder was biased and wanted it to be black and white due to it being a “ghost movie” or something. The early trailers for JL back in 2016/2017 showed more color.

>>212210930
Loev Ben.

>>212211097
It's because he legit stole the files from the WB archive with all his footage, and they were all in black and white. So for the longest time he lived with those files watching the movie in black and white.

>>212211099
Oh my god. This at once mends and breaks my heart.

>>212205712 (OP)
While there’s certainly a place for the tactical lean look that Bale and Pattison have it’s a shame that we will probably never have this raw of a Batman ever again. The suit and combat were incredible and is the truest “ripped out of a comic book” thing in film history.

>>212211222
Ben is a real one. He's always present whenever Snyder do one of his exhibitions or streaming event of these movies.

>>212211258
Despite not liking much Gunn's style i was hopeful that at the very least the costume designs would be closer to something like this because of the Peacemaker one, but the Superman suit and the Justice Gang suit just... it all feels generic in that same MCU style.

>>212205712 (OP)
He's a wasted potential. If only Zack could make a decent movie. DCEU ruined Ben's life.

Anyone who says Bale's Batman is better must be delusional.

>>212210479
>>212210534
I'm serious when I say we will never get a better batman action scene than this. This will age good even 20 years from now

>>212211258

>>212211173
unironically this was the coolest looking scene in the movie

>>212212702
I don't care about Cyborg but that entire segment showing his origin was really well made. The music was great too.

>>212209719
>>212209657
I hope one day Snyder make a King Arthur movie. Or even a Stay/Fate movie.

>>212212871
Zack Snyder said this shot is lifted straight from Excalibur, it is the moment Arthur is presented as king.

>>212205990
Bruce Wayne is hard to pull off since he has no personality outside of Being Batman. So unless you're "I'm acting!" like Bale or you're a literally who like Michael Keaton, you just end up being That Actor who dresses up as batman in some scenes. Ben Affleck was Ben Affleck and Batman in BvS and Justice League.

>>212207284
Holy kino

>>212213510
The entire movie is kino of the highest order.

BvS is a masterpiece and a great way to filter any normie

Here's one crazy.
Superman funeral in the third act was modelled after JFK funeral.
JFK presidency and death was said to be like the end of Camelot, by his wife Jackie Kennedy, with the quote coming from a King Arthur play JFK used to love.
BvS already had plenty of parallels to Excalibur and this one another one of them.
Superman dying was like JFK dying, and that marked the end of Camelot. Or its beginning.

>>212213605
visually yes, but:
>story too long and convoluted
>retarded young facebook guy cast as Lex
>rivalry is not compelling, should have focused on Lois

> "There was a time above... a time before... there were perfect things... diamond absolutes. But things fall... things on earth. And what falls... is fallen."
>"In the dream, it took me to the light. A beautiful lie."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9BL59uiAz8&list=RDz9BL59uiAz8

>>212207284
Are you the autist who did the 40 post analysis last year?

>>212207532
nigga never watched JL TAS

>>212214551
Right?

>>212206101
It’s endlessly fascinating to me how cool and sick and twisted this Joker was and how the creators did everything they could to strip that all away with the sequel. Fuck them tho. I’ll always love the first Joker. The sequel doesn’t exist in my canon. And Todd Phillips lost a fan

>>212211099
Better times.

>>212205990
Clark Kent meeting Bruce for the first time mogs every illustration of Bruce Wayne in all media

>>212213940
Kino. Cavill looks like a god compared to the new guy.

>>212213940
Amazing.

>>212213940
Tbh Kingdom Come and Marvels needs to be a mini series.

I love MoS and like BvS and Justice League, but I really dislike the BvS ultimate cut. I don't think they really needed to add much aside from the 5 seconds of Superman rescuing survivors after the bombing. None of the other additions make sense. Like if it was Luthor's henchman that told people to kill criminals that Batman branded, and Batman didn't agree with it, why does he keep branding people?

>>212216023
Well ultimate cut added Clark doing investigative journalism, part of him building his case against Batman on top of generally giving Cavill much needed scenes. And Steppenwolf which validated Lex’s manic state, without it the “he’s coming” dialogue to Batman at the end of the movie makes no sense. I don’t know what else the UE added.

>>212216023
Funny.
I like MoS, and love BvS, and am sorta okay with ZSJL.
If anything i feel that the scenes they cut from the movie where essential and still to this day feel annoyed that we don't have a cut of the movie with them in it. For example there is a scene where after meeting Bruce for the first time and listening on the conversation between Bruce and Alfred, learning that Bruce is Batman, Clark does a bit of digging into Bruce and learn that his mother's name is Martha. This explain why he said Martha and not something else.
They cut out the scene and i feel that if they had left it there the whole Martha thing would have felt less awkward. The only thing we've left from this scene is this pic.

>He will never be topped

>>212206128
>AI slop
Like clockwork

>>212205990
He was a good Bruce Wayne too. His movie would have been kino if he got to direct it, but the blowback from BvS and Josstice League really made him want to quit ASAP. What a bummer. Him and Cavill were completely wasted. WB fucking sucks and needs to sell DC to literally anyone else.

>>212206823
Because of James R. Gunn

>>212216415
You are so based

>>212206042
They really don't look similar at all.

>>212205712 (OP)
He was, in prison. According to Sneeder

The man himself Kevin Conroy said Affleck was the best. Why? Because he was the most straightforward. There’s no retard rachel angle or something in the way autism. He’s the simplest form of Bruce Wayne.

>>212216133
I thought the theatrical cut had Clark visit Gotham to investigate Batman too, but I might be wrong. I think the theatrical cut got the point across.
Also the ultimate edition scene with them tracing the mercenaries from Africa because they used super rare lexcorp bullets or something was kind of stupid.

>>212216169
I agree, this is something they should have put in the movie. If they didn't want to show Clark on a laptop they could have him go over old newspaper archives or visit a Wayne memorial or something.


Snyder really is like Hideo Kojima in that they keep adding details that are cool but don't necessarily help the story, the problem is mainstream movies need to be 2-3 hours while Kojima gets away with putting 40 hours of cutscenes in a game.

>>212217035
>something in the way autism
You mean, the death of his parents?
You're absolutely right. There's nothing there for Affleck.

>>212217098
>Snyder really is like Hideo Kojima in that they keep adding details that are cool but don't necessarily help the story, the problem is mainstream movies need to be 2-3 hours while Kojima gets away with putting 40 hours of cutscenes in a game.
He should seriously get a few good writers, like Chris Terio, and devote himself to some TV series with 1 hour long 12 episodes run.

>>212209354
B-based?

>>212214551
I have and it was ass there too. It only works in that show because the dcau did a bad job adapting Diana and her mythos in general. They have no chemistry in basically everything else, especially their comic counterparts.

>>212217758
>They have no chemistry in basically everything else, especially their comic counterparts.
They've more chemistry than Batman and Catwoman ever did.

>>212217148
That would be interesting.

IMHO though he should try going back to making a self contained mid budget 2 hour film like 300 or Dawn of the Dead. No cinematic universe plans, just make one solid stylish movie, maybe based on a book, show everyone he's still a capable filmmaker. Kind of like how Michael Bay made Pain & Gain and 13 hours between Transformers films.

>>212217878
*Or Nolan made Prestige, Inception and Interstellar alternating between the dark knight films

>>212217878
>>212217896
The problem is that he's now working non-stop with John Wick writers, which are fucking awful, and they keep pushing him into doing cinematic universes.

>>212217829
Bruce and Selina in TBATB #197 alone mog any "chemistry" Diana and Bruce have ever had. The only argument for this ship is a 20 year old cartoon that didn't even have a good adaptation of Diana lol

>>212218102
Wonder Woman 70% of the time in the comics is an inconsistent mess of a character. She changes from writer to writer. The only real consistent take on the character is original one from the golden age. From 50 onwards, and specially after the 80s reboot the character was pretty much widely different from writer to writer, and book to book, despite them all being made together and being the same canon.

Yeah I don't care what anyone says BvS is kino. It was definitely fucked over by having to shoehorn in the JL setup, but I still like it. As much shit as Snyder gets for making polarizing movies, at least he tries to do something different. How many fucking MCU cookie cutter movies are there at this point? Does anyone even care? At least people still talk about BvS, bad or good, it's worth discussing.

>>212218522
>How many fucking MCU cookie cutter movies are there at this point?
Gonna be one more after Gunn's superman releases.

>>212218354
Diana had a relatively consistent characterization from the 80's onward, at least until the New 52, it was her supporting cast/villains that fluctuated wildly. And either way, the show failed to adapt either Perez or Marston, which were her defining iterations at the time, so it doesn't matter.

>>212218522
I like BvS because it just feels like pure DC. Very delicious. From street levels fights to world ending aliens it was able to scale really well and maintain an intimate albeit epic atmosphere. And most importantly it was made with love, not reluctance.

>>212206042
Why? Because he is Ben Affleck? He was terrible as both Bruce and Batman.

>>212211458
They don't even feel like generic MCU, they feel like generic CW.

I’m rewatching old trailers and feeling nostalgic for that time in late 2015 early 2016 where people were super hype for the DCEU. It’s a shame how JL crumbled and the universe with it.

>>212207584
Krypto taking a shit in the fortress is already better than SONOFTABITCHBROUGHTHESONOFABITCHTOSONOFABITCH

>>212218668
Yeah the mcu had good costumes at least. And the cgi didn’t start truly shitting the bed until civil war.

>>212218612
>Diana had a relatively consistent characterization from the 80's onward
No, she didn't.
Her personality changed widely from book to book and there was even worse editorial fuckery where she ended up being the rookie amazon heroine whereas fucking Wonder Girl/Troia, from Teen Titans, became a senior amazon heroine with 10 years of experience over Wonder Woman herself, because editors fucked the timeline in the various books after the reboot.
In her own comic, written by George Perez, she was one way. In the cross-overs with the various Superman books, that constantly affected her own comic, she had another personality and basically wrecked as a homewrecker trying to seduce and split Superman from Lois Lane while pushing him to be more godlike, and in the JL books and other places she was completely different. This is something that have always plagued her.
Take the New 52 book where in the JL book she dated Superman and was a violent and cunt-ish, and in her own book she dated Steve Trevor and was a protective and chill.

>>212205712 (OP)

>>212206384
They were so sure about them yet they rejected it?

>>212218641
>And most importantly it was made with love, not reluctance.
Yeah I think is what separates it the most from Marvel crap. Every movie aside from Iron Man 1 and the Captain America movies is made with pure disdain for the comic medium. Every director/writer hates that they're working on this juvenile shit, so the movies are chock full of self aware jabs and emotion ruining jokes. It got real old real fast.

>>212208745
So much that it is unreal?

>>212218690
I still blame WB for interfering. Snyder is too much of a company man and wouldn't admit it, but there's no way he planned on including Wonder Woman and the Justice League crap in BvS.

>>212218801
>homewrecker trying to seduce and split Superman from Lois Lane while pushing him to be more godlike
When did that happen? Yes, she had romantic feelings for him but that was consistent throughout Post-Crisis. In fact, the first instance of this was in Perez's run when she was having wet dreams of him. Diana was never portrayed as a homewrecker, it never went past her acting sad that he picked Lois.

And, yeah, the stuff with Donna was weird but it never really messed with Diana's characterization.

>>212206460
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE MY HECKIN SUPERMAN MORALLY AMBIGUOUS!
>WHERE ARE THE QUIPS?

>>212218923
I don't even blame the directors for this shit.
How many times have we heard that they hired a director that came in full of passion and ideas just to learn that most of the big sets were already done in previs? Or that the movie was screen tested 10 fucking times in the period of a month and with every new screen test they had extensive cuts and reshoots?

I don't even blame Gunn for the mess with this new Superman movie because i've heard they've already butchered this movie in several ways after test screenings, changing its editor and music score, and cutting shit from it just because people mocked something from the trailer or whatever. I think in the most recent news it was said they cut out most of the jokes. Why have Gunn do this and cut down on his jokes and gags, when that is what the guy is best known for?

That's why most of the recent MCU movies ended up feeling so generic with everything in it tailor made to please some mythical demographic without truly pleasing anyone.

>>212219059
>When did that happen?
In several of the cross-overs. I'm not even really referencing the weird push for the romance between the two, but how much they'd butcher her characterization from her own comic. In her comic she was this down to earth gal that treated everyone the same, whereas in the cross-overs she would act confused that Superman would want to feel more connected to people and kept pushing him to see himself and act more like a deity.

The point is that he character changing widely from comic to comic.

>>212207126
I had the same reaction irl when I realized their moms had the same name

>>212206262
i thought nu-Batman was decent, but i wish we had a standalone afleck batman he would have been kino

>>212206596
this scene is retarded, batman was a literal retard this entire movie

>>212218641
Pure DC as in embracing almost everything DC:
Stories (mostly death of superman and dark knight returns) and images from the comics
The religious messianic undertones from the Reeves movies
Brooding and vehicular carnage from the Burton and Nolan movies
A Batman fight scene straight out of the Arkham games
Banter and Batman/WW pairing from the cartoons

You're right anon

>>212205712 (OP)
oof. didnt want to remember that doujin

All I ever wanted was a Batfleck HBO max series

>>212219114
I don't think that's the best example

>>212213940
>shallow comparison, conmpletely devoid of contex
Kek, snydertards

>>212221777
The context is changed, yes, but the meaning of most of the scenes are the same. Either way it is about how the movie tried to pay homage to Alex Ross' art.

>>212218801
new52 are not DC comics

>>212221803
>>212220555
Wonder Woman has been facing this problem almost her entire existence, not just during the newest reboot.

>>212218641
Snydershit is not DC. literally the opposite.
At it was universallly derided for a reason

You few few snyder fags and your pareidolia should really move one and stop being contrarian children

>>212221834
It’s too late in the night to bait bro

>>212221816
True-ish
Mostly because it's an AA title they want to force into a AAA sales. Therefore they keep repairing her even if she's not broken.
That being said the Perez-Jimenez-Rucka-Simone streak was (while far from flawless) consistent enough. I mean it's clarly the same character and recognizable as Wonder Woman.
Post flashpoint shit isn't Wonder Woman (personality, supporting characters, sword & shield, killing, muh warrior, muh mythology all the times, daddy zeus, no clay origin...)

>>212221873
It's too late in the night to be contrarian.
And you are too old.
That shit was laughed at 12 years ago or so. How old are even you now?
Give it a rest. Nobody liked that shit and nobody saw DC in it

>>212206460
>"show don't tell" niggers crying when snyder shows but don't tell

>>212210082
batman didn't know, he thought it was a midget

>>212205712 (OP)
>no good movie
>no good dialogue
>no good action scene
>no good as adaptation
Topped at what, again?

>>212221930
>That being said the Perez-Jimenez-Rucka-Simone streak was (while far from flawless) consistent enough. I mean it's clarly the same character and recognizable as Wonder Woman.
I agree with you, somewhat, but the main issue remained that Wonder Woman was... fine, in her own book. But everywhere else? She changed a lot, and sometimes completely. Be it in Justice League type of books, which they were plenty specially during the early 90s, or whenever she appeared in other characters' books, specially the Superman ones where she was almost a constant presence.
This is something, for example, that Greg Rucka used to complain a lot because other writers would often force events or character developments on him, like Wonder Woman killing Max Lord in a big cross-over event, and he'd be forced to deal with the fallout in her own comic, which was meant to tie-in to the big event.
The constant Superman cross-over during the triangle era when his various comics where in a constant state of cross-over due to some big story-line was particularly damaging because they would treat her character almost as a supporting character in his books, so they'd do shit like killing her mother in his books, like when World's at War happened, and that would have to be dealt in her book, and often times the characters from her book include her character would be portrayed in a completely OoC way in those stories.

>>212221984
Snyder never know what to tell and what to say, and the entire concept of context is lost to him

>>212222053
yes, lost to niggers like you who needs to be told every inch of context in 100 words or more

>>212222053
>and the entire concept of context is lost to him
Explain context. Just try. I am curious.
Because the "context" of that scene is to visually show something that is later brought up in the movie and serves as a wider metaphor for one of the movie themes.

>>212222051
Yeah, out of her comic is always used as support character and her role is always contrasting to toher characters.
If superman is calm, noble and does't kill, then she is written angsty and violent, for example
if she's with batman she can detect for shit even with lasso of truth because that's batman schtick

Also I hate how the Max Lord crap is used to debunk her no killing rule when all stuff about her were centered about how out of character that was for her and how she needed to face consequences for falling so low, to the point of being almost kicked out of the jla. Same shit for Kingdom Come. That's a what if wonder woman went to shit, not how she should be written and armed
Anyway it is what it is. I just with they would be subversive once in their (or my) life and make something where Wonder Woman is... actually Wonder Woman. Same is true for all the other cahracters, but I guess that ship sailed decades ago

>>212222090
You lost to life when you missed the meaning of that writing principle.
You say what you need to say, and show what you need to show, and context is king. Something Snyder will never ever uderstand

>>212222098
Oh it's like every time he recreates a comicbook panel but in the comic it's used to say or show the opposite thing

Dunno why I'm wastin my time, you are unable to understand mmovies, stories and characters

>>212222165
>Same shit for Kingdom Come.
Oh, don't even get me started on that comic. I know it's a evergreen book beloved by a lot of people but the success of that book made many of that book characterizations bleed to the main canon, with Wonder Woman suffering the worst because of it. It's because of Kingdom Come becoming so popular that writers writing for DC began to believe that's how Wonder Woman is like, and started to writer her as that in many books. It's basically what led to the Max Lord debacle.
Not that she was the only character to suffer from it. Superman began to be portrayed as this wish-washy type of character that can't decide when and how to act whenever something happens involving other heroes, which led to shit like Identity Crisis, where Superman is depicted as covering all the fucked up the other heroes did to other villains and Batman.
Batman as well became this know-it-all prick that is always trying to lecture everyone on how to properly behave as some kind of moral arbiter, which is basically how he started to be portrayed as around the 2000s.

Kingdom Come was a toxic waste;

>>212205712 (OP)
Not my fav Batman but it was good

>>212222252
Peace on Earth is about Superman trying to tackle something lofty, like ending world hunger during Christmas, and failing badly because of how complex (and nasty) humans can be and the problem needs much more than just the aid of simple food.
And Kingdom Come is about Superman trying to police others while failing to police himself, and that creating awful unintended consequences that just make the original problem worse.

Those comics informed a lot of what happens in BvS, and i feel that the panels and pages used somewhat fitted the movie theme wise, even if the context in some of the scenes were different.

Either way you're complaining about something that happens in EVERY FUCKING MOVIE ADAPTATION as if it was a singular failing of Zack Snyder.

>>212205712 (OP)

>>212222280
100% agree.
And I like KC.
Just hate its influence

>>212222411
When it comes to Alex Ross, my favorite comic of his is Justice. I've wondered over the years why that isn't THE comic that is better known, in place of Kingdom Come. I guess people kind of like dark futures better, i guess, as something novel. The Justice mini was awesome and much, much more in character when it came to all the different characters,

>>212222367
See?
Shallow comparisons with context completely removed
>Peace on Earth is about Superman trying to tackle something lofty, like ending world hunger during Christmas, and failing badly because of how complex (and nasty) humans can be and the problem needs much more than just the aid of simple food.
true, and then Snyder uses those images in a scene that itl's literally the opposite, resulting in literal mockery of the source material.
It reminds me of partcularly egregious cases of woke overhauls of existing characters. At least Snyder isn't woke, I'll give him that

>>212222487
>dark futures better
It was a nice idea when it was 1- a novelty and 2- a contrast to the idealistic larger than life present
That happened long time ago

>>212222494
>true, and then Snyder uses those images in a scene that itl's literally the opposite, resulting in literal mockery of the source material.
You're a moron.
What's the literal opposite? The scenes are for a montage showing Superman helping people while TV news and talking shows talk heads trying to misconstruct his noble actions in several ways, turning whatever he does into a problematic hot topic. That's very much in spirit with what happens in Peace on Earth.

>>212210754
now, this one is a stretch

>>212222185
>uderstand
ok esl retard

>>212205712 (OP)
I'm happy my capeshit phase only resulted in being a Nolan fan and not cross over to being a fan of Snyder, Whedon, Matt Reeves, Gunn, etc...

>>212205712 (OP)
Jeffrey Dean Morgan could still be superior if they made the movies right now with his Comedian foam muscles and a sexy, cute female Robin

>>212222555
one is superman helping people but that's not enough, and superman being empathetic
one is people exploding and snyderman not doing anything, because either emotionally stunted or indifferent (not indifferent but comes out like that because snyder don't understant character having emotions)

>>212222607
Love when that's all you've left to attack because arguments are insurmountable

>>212222674
Yes, you're clearly a moron.
The comic is about Superman trying to help people, and failing, mostly because of human nature, and having to shoulder that failure and find reasons to continue on.
The comic, specially when it comes to Superman character arc within it, is about Superman trying to help people, and failing, mostly because of human nature, and having to shoulder that failure and find reasons to continue on. Exactly like the comic.
Both the comic and the movie have a somber tone and deal with a somewhat heavy subject, but end in an optimistic way.

>>212216448
This will sound like I'm memeing but Hack Snyder bragged out hiring Pakis (or Jeets? Same crap!) to astroturf the Snyder Cut

>>212222753
Source?

>>212217035
>Why? Because he was the most straightforward. There’s no retard rachel angle or something in the way autism. He’s the simplest form of Bruce Wayne
Lolwut the movie is about his Superman angst his Robin angst wtf it's not the simplest form of Bruce Wayne it's one of the most convoluted ones

>>212222760
I think it was a FilmJunkee interview or FilmJunkee's asian buttbuddy. I should go clip it since it's so fucked he admitted to it, we know he's too autistic to say it as a joke

>>212222733
>superficial similarities
>no concern for the context
QED

Snydershit doesn't deal with any subject, let alon heavi. it oly references stuff and then do nothing with it. And the references, guess what, are always out of context

>>212223209
Once again you're a moron.
You realize you're complaining about something literally every director and movie does when adapting a book or comic book, right?
So what pisses you off about Snyder, in specific? That he makes the composition look good? Look very closely to the references?

>>212206545
You can't get more grimdark than this

>>212205712 (OP)
Am I the only one that hated the cowl? It made him look fat.

>>212206128
I mostly disliked the Wonder Woman movies (especially the 2nd), but thought her design was KINO and Gadot look pretty good in the costume. She's bad at acting, but it's Wonder Woman so it hardly mattered. The action scenes were well done, at least in the first movie.

>>212223538
No, lots of people thought his neck in BVS was too fat. I think his gut was too fat.

>>212205712 (OP)
sad thing is nobody will even try, they'll just take batman in a "different" direction

>>212223626
>She's bad at acting, but it's Wonder Woman so it hardly mattered
Her Israeli accent was sexy, I liked her bad acting it's too bad she's built like Popeye's girlfriend

>>212205712 (OP)
Battinson > Battfleck, don't @ me

>>212223255
>deflection
QED
Now you are just angry because you have no argument.

>>212223626
>but thought her design was KINO and Gadot look pretty good in the costume
she's awful and everything about the character is awful, in both those horrrid movies.
That shit isn't WW

>>212205712 (OP)
we didn't know how good we had it...

>>212223663
Good riddance

>>212206460
ive only recently started to appreciate just how good mos and bvs are. justice league is still a piece of scrap desu

>>212225516
>>212206545
you dont think that. no one thinks that.

>>212208716
absolute kino its a sin we will never see the finished nightmare world

>>212222760
lmao the entire #releasethesnydercut was entirely brown driven

>>212210082
that's because snyder is a hack who literally didn't understand the core characters of batman/ superman

>>212205712 (OP)
Perhaps it's for the best that Batman V Superman remains on its own. Its creation was by fluke. ZSJL, while great, is definitely notably inferior.
True kino stands alone. If Affleck had gotten to make his film, who knows?

>>212206460
It's actually a travesty how far ahead of every other capeshit it is. Literally the only real capekino ever made

>>212207225
When Gunn's Superman flops, hopefully we finally get the Ayer cut which should have more Batman

MARTHA?

>>212227492
I blame the marvelisation of the people as the main reason why bvs was rejected, it was released at the wrong time. time will be kind to bvs more than the marvel slop

>>212207284
Shit, I never made that connection with Zorro.
How does film have so many layers?!

>>212207519
>we could have had an entire film of this but Geoff Johns' ego stood in the way
Unforgiveable

>>212205712 (OP)
Yep. Batfleck was the most intimidating batman on silver screen. He was also good as a bitter and miserable Bruce Wayne
>>212207126
I do appreciate Snyder's moody aesthetics and symbolism, but that nigga is so focused on that he forgot to deliver a decent movie script

Topped? Zack Snyder planned him to have batman raped in prison

>>212227755
this is a lie and you know it

>>212222624
>being a Nolan fan

>>212205712 (OP)
>Best bruce wayne
>Best batsuit
>Best batmobile
>Best Alfred

>>212227858
its a crime we never got a standalone batman kino

>>212227890
Geof Johns and Walter Hamada have a LOT to answer for

>>212226685
>t how good mos and bvs are.
fake opinion.
nobody liked those

>>212227593
>Snyder
>layers
It's called pareidolia
>>212227858
>>Best bruce wayne
>>Best batsuit
>>Best batmobile
>>Best Alfred
another post about things that never happened
you 13 snydertards are really enjoying the negative attention once again

>>212223538
I liked BvS cowl compared to ZSJL cowl, the JL cowl looks weird while BvS blends seamlessly with the outfit. The first batsuit in JL overall is better than BvS but the material made the stunt very hard to do judging from batman action in the subterranean tower or whatever that place is

>>212205990
worst opinion ever.
It must be aweful being you and having to navigate life.

>>212228628
he was nothing like what bruce Wayne is he just carried his batman persona to play bruce

>>212227810
Hey. I get nothing but wins these days being a fan of his. Excited for The Odyssey.

>>212228707
kek post your negetive chin senpai

>>212205712 (OP)
he could've done it
hence why (((The Boys))) turned him into a cuckold.

>>212227797

>>212206128
>ai sloppa
>spanish
lmao

>>212229388
he's talking hypothetically you fucking retard, if you want a batman that's truly unhinged you need terrible shit to happen to him

>>212205712 (OP)
Also a better detective than Battison, who didn't think to look under Riddler's carpet lmao.

>>212229647
Gunnjeets haven't unlocked reading comprehension. Thats why supersaar will explain the point of the movie to them constantly.

>>212229064
Lel, Post your arm first.

no other batman has even come close to the horror aspect of batman or even what a formidable force he is

>>212215949
Based, and extra based for not having some console war about which is better and extra extra based for saying a mini series and not a movie

>>212229759
saar, now you go please saar

>>212229736
he didn't detect shit
>>212229647
and that's retarded, yes, like having unhinged batman

>>212229882
the words escping your mouth literaly have no meaning lmao.
it's 12 years too late for marketing , schizo. it has been already penned and canned

>>212230094
So this the new start Gunnjeet, projecting about marketing while spamming this board with Supersaar non stop.

>>212229922
wow, 13 year of irrational anger caused by making a flopped movie your identity does wonders!
Congrats!

>>212230069
> Be detective
> Don't detective secret plan to bomb Gotham under the carpet
The Batman is the worst live action detective

>>212230133
you mention Gunn much more than 100 gunn fans combined, on top of seeying them everywere someone doesn't like your universally reviled movies
snyderverse being canned really broke you

>>212229922
>June 19
Thanks for the laugh Rajesh. Kek.

Snyderverse was a dogshit
Snyder is a hack
Affleck is terrible batman
Cavill is boring superman
Gunn killing off slopverse is a good thing

>>212230166
The batman sucks too, and it's a shit detective
I gets praises jsut because it's better than snydershit, as if that was a feat
I wish bad movies were still allowed to be just bat

>>212230198
>on top of seeying them everywere
Your not convincing me that your not a butt mad Gunnjeet shill

>>212230237
>TRVKE
Doesn't matter is Gunn's movie will be bad or mid or whatever.
It's already done it's job: being a tombstone to something that 99,99% of people already buried 10+ years ago

>>212230237
Yeah, Gunn killing of the DCU with Supersaar is a good thing
>>212230251
> The batman sucks too
I accept your concession.

>>212230261
I'm not here to convince you of anything, if you could be convinced, you would have moved on when your shit was laughed at a decade ago.
I never gave ashit about SS, disliked GoG, didn't watch 2 and 3, and if I'll ever see this Superman movie it will be mostly thanks to you

>>212230324
What were you angry about, anyway?
Some flopped shit nobody liked, if I'm not mistaken

>>212230355
Check didn't clear huh, hey man that sucks but your right Gunn has always been shit.

>>212230385
nope, just the indian hordes shitting up the board with supersaar.

>>212230454
>>212230756
Still crying, uh?

>>212230778
> Gunpreet STILL having a melty
July 11

>>212231109
On July 11 nothing will happen at all.
Snydershit is dead and a joke, and it will stay that way.

>>212231406
Yeah nothing will happen, because nobody will see this movie and you will continue to seethe like you have been for the last ten years. Here too ten more

>>212231814
>you will continue to seethe like you have been for the last ten years
pure projection from nigger that's been seething ever since cavill slopman flopped

>>212206262
>he looks intimidating, handsome and smart.
But he can't act for shit and has the charisma of a potted plant.

this sounds like one big pajeet thread ngl