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[SAD NEWS] Pixar's new movie "Elio" was too gay for test audiences

>>212229988 (OP)
Stop putting gay shit in kids films.
You grooming cocksuckers.

who knew putting gay little boys in a kids movie would test badly with the general public?

>>212229988 (OP)
Pretty ballsy of Pixar to make a film about a young Hispanic boy literally begging to be abducted at a time when ICE raids are going on all across America.

>>212229988 (OP)
So many mediocre nu-Pixar types involved with this pos movie

Why is Hollywood so obsessed with gay children?

>>212230171
Will you PLEASE stop noticing patterns?

Disney more like make Disneygga gay

>>212229988 (OP)
I'd bet being gay was also the original reason on why he got targeted for bullying

>>212229988 (OP)
The original Elio sounded like a vanity project by a faggot director who became blind to the realities of social norms and values outside of himself and the idyllic multicultural genderspazzed San Francisco realm he prances around in.
Truth is, these are huge and grotesquely expensive endeavours, and creating ridiculously niche faggot propaganda isn't going to have wide-market appeal.
This defanged and defaggoted Elio on the other hand, has a different issue wherein this is absolutely zero hook. Nothing conceptually that immediately compels people, upon seeing the poster, or the advert, or the McDonalds Toys. All it suggests is another gay purply vaguely sci-fi experience like Light Year, and Strange World, and whatever, that they're all now trained to avoid.
Even Turning Red, which featured the same Tumblry burger-king-kids-club diversity managed to easily sell the puberty metaphor aspect to girls.
Elio is just a colossal fuck-up in market awareness and budgeting from the get-go.
You can tell this had to have been greenlit in the rarefied post-Obama progressive tide of noncery that proliferated in the late 2010's, when those mega gaylords thought they were absolutely unstoppable.

>>212229988 (OP)
I love it when board rooms and focus groups water down my entertainment.

>>212230367
Your critique is wasted here, a majority of users could not even comprehend this post.

>>212230367
>All it suggests is another gay purply vaguely sci-fi experience like Light Year, and Strange World, and whatever, that they're all now trained to avoid.
that's a great point. even the less sci-fi ones like Onward look too similar

>>212230367
>The original Elio sounded like a vanity project by a faggot director who became blind to the realities of social norms and values outside of himself and the idyllic multicultural genderspazzed San Francisco realm he prances around in.
You can say that about almost any modern piece of media.

>>212230544
>tfw to smart for 4channel

>>212230544
I do and I appreciate his post.

>>212230367
>Truth is, these are huge and grotesquely expensive endeavours, and creating ridiculously niche faggot propaganda isn't going to have wide-market appeal.
The most baffling thing about that is that Disney knows it's happening, they know their movies flop, they know Pixar has gone insane, yet Disney doesn't stop it. They could implant overseers instead of waiting for the response of the test audience.

>>212229988 (OP)
Why would I pay to see a movie about gay kids?

>>212229988 (OP)
Why are they still trying to push the gay agenda when movies like inside out 2 made a billion dollars?

>>212230697
Disney seems to assume that you watch anything they put in the cinema, if only they have a monopoly.

>>212230673
They were getting unlimited Blackrock funding as long as they kept promoting globohomo. It probably seemed like the gravy train was never going to end.

>just assumed he was gay from looking at it and the weird eyepatch
>turns out he was gay
lmao

>>212230673
disney is a media production/distribution company. stopping production/distribution of media would be worse than producing/distributing flops.

>>212229988 (OP)
>Disney keeps making cal arts slop staring kids who got molested and enjoyed it

>>212230736
I assume Blackrock was betting on Disney achieving a quasi-monopoly for movies, making their movies the only movies in cinemas. Then they can churn out alphabet slop and you can either watch it or avoid cinema forever.

>>212230763
>stopping production/distribution of media would be worse than producing/distributing flops.
It's what people like that gay producers abuse. disney can't axe the movie. that have a movie planned for that slot.

>>212230733
They're right, in a way. You have to watch something. As far as they're concerned, you can watch the gay kids movie or sit and stare at the wall. That's where the whole "You WILL submit" thing comes from. You can participate on their terms or not at all.

>>212230673
>they know their movies flop, they know Pixar has gone insane, yet Disney doesn't stop it.

The Blackrock money is too stable and reliable to give up. Why risk 500 mil to win 1 billion when you can risk nothing and get 800 mil in blackrock ESG gibs

>>212230831
its more about how they need to hide the fact the most watched streaming shows are old sitcoms they paid way too much money to acquire streaming rights for, and the way to do that is to continually expand the library with shit no one will watch.

>>212230067
They didn't actually thin it would happen. They still don't. They also still think people are just going to accept some toddler character who's somehow gay already. The LGBTQIQFJKYWQRUBJ+ community is just going to keep brave facing like they're winning until annihilation, and I say just let them

>>212230367
Still doesn't answer why this trend continues despite its lack of success.

>>212230967
>The Blackrock money is too stable and reliable to give up.
Any CEO rejecting that money would get canned. not to mention having Larry as your enemy will go badly.

>>212229988 (OP)
Was it really a gay crush or did he have a poster of a sports icon taped up in his room and they're just reading too much into that?

>>212229988 (OP)
>Those who worked at Pixar while its latest film release, Elio, was in production were delighted by footage they saw roughly two years ago. Among the moments cited as favorites by those at the animation studio at the time included a sequence in which the titular boy collected trash on the beach and turned it into homemade apparel that included a pink tank top; the movie’s team would refer to Elio showing this off to a hermit crab as his “trash-ion show.”

>>212230673
Their producers are ideologues and are too cowardly to say something won't make money. Maybe they're all ensnared in some backroom ritual shit and they're not allowed to say no unless you're being publicly cancelled.

>>212231123
>Still doesn't answer why this trend continues despite its lack of success.
It was ESG funding, duders.

>>212231260
The whole alien thing was a metaphor for Elio discovering and embracing his inner faggotry.

>>212231311
>Their producers are ideologues and are too cowardly to say something won't make money.
Pretty sure the producers milk the shit out of the situation. They all want big salaries. They all want an expensive project under the belt, so they blow up the budget to no tomorrow. Just look how every Disney movie is insanely expensive. Even if Disney suddenly wants the homo slop to stop, they can't.

>>212229988 (OP)
>The writing was first on the wall for the troubled production when the film from Molina, known as the co-director of Pixar’s Oscar-winning 2017 hit Coco, conducted an early test screening in Arizona. Although viewers expressed how much they enjoyed the movie, they were also asked how many of them would see it in a theater, and not a single hand was raised, according to a source with knowledge of the event. This sounded alarm bells for studio brass.

>It was around this same time that Molina screened his latest cut of the film to Pixar leadership. There are differing accounts of the exact feedback that the director received from Pixar boss Pete Docter when the lights went up, with rumors circulating in some of the studio’s circles that Molina was hurt by the conversation. The part that is clear is that Molina exited the project soon after, and much of Elio was reworked under new co-directors Madeline Sharafian and Domee Shi.

I'm just guessing, but I take it that Docter told Molina that the movie was too gay and wouldn't perform well and he refused to make it less gay and walked on the project.

>>212231311
or its just as simple as disney (and the rest of hollywood) is operating off an increasingly obsolete business model and they either push forward with it or die immediately.

>>212231413
>Docter told Molina that the movie was too gay and wouldn't perform well
What I wonder, why did Docter wait until the first test screening? Is he a retard who can't see how DEI slop fails commercially over and over again?

>>212231534
Addition: He probably knew, but wanted to wait for the test audience to put the blame of axing DEI on them.

>>212231534
Because Coco performed well maybe Molina was given a lot of latitude to put together Elio and didn't have to show work in progress as long as he could report that they were making good progress on production of the movie.

>>212230367
good post

>“Suddenly, you remove this big, key piece, which is all about identity, and Elio just becomes about totally nothing,” says the former Pixar artist.

That's a pretty candid take for someone on the inside.

>>212229988 (OP)
let me guess, he was having a crush with the black nerdy boy, makes sense because white boy would be the maga bigoted chud

>>212231123
That's simple, the malefactors embedded themselves in these institutions like the scalloped pustules riddling the legs of a pozzed-out rent-boy in a fifteen-man cross-state furry orgy, thus engendering an Orwellian culture of mass paranoia, blind obeisance, and absolute cowardice in these corporations. DEI Judiciars and queer constables became the norm, and all sense of the previous norm became verboten. Rebellion was smitten down by the unstoppable gay gestapo disfiguring the standard white-shirt-and-tie codes of conduct that fostered a century of success, permitting nothing less in the beaten and pious than the relentless queer creeds of the degeneracy-advocating filth. So encrusted are they now, and so fervent are their crotch-monstrous pedo armies running optics campaigns online, that their tyranny has rooted even in the feeble minds of those with the controlling stakes of these institutions.

>>212231605
Every producer has to report to the upper levels. They might not interfere, but he sure as shit had to report. The CEO would get canned if he didn't regularly inform himself.
Like I said, I bet he waited for the test audience to have a scapegoat.

Parents tend to be conservative and they don't want their kids consuming homosexual propaganda. Adult Disney fans are also disappearing because of the ongoing economic crunch/woke becoming less hip.

>>212231631
Said the quiet part loud.

>>212230367
the problem is elio could've been some retro boy adventure in space. him being abducted accidentally by aliens nd pretending to be the leader first for fun until pressure forces him to drop the charade and maybe be self conscious that he's stilla kid and has so much to learn and can rely on everyone even if he wants to be independent or something, you know, teamwork, camarderie or whatever

>>212230367
>>212230673

It’s not baffling.
Supporting their ideology trumps profits any day of the week to these people. They’ll destroy IP after IP, and generate horrible new ones, too.
Like locusts, the perpetrators will just move onto the next thing to feast and destroy.

>>212230747
so how did he get the eyepatch? gloryhole accident?

>>212230411
That's not watered down, that fagified to the max.

>removes the woke shit
>movie still sucks and makes no money
So the gay shit didn't matter at all then?

>>212231886
Excessive masturbation.

Do you think they are finally accepting that having anything gay in a children's movie automatically repels the majority of the population?

>>212231916
sounds like it's one of those situations where you remove the woke moral of the story, and it turns it into a movie about nothing

>>212231939
no, it means the population needs to get used to it

>In the movie, the president of the US is a black woman called "Hamala Karris" and one of the villains is called "Ronald Dumpf"

No wonder this flopped, it was made with Kamala's victory in mind

>>212231939
No. Gay people exist and our stories deserve to be told.

>>212231666
whoa, slow down there professor, I didn't bring my thesaurus

>>212231916
more like the gay thing was everything about this movie, you remove it and leave a husk

>>212232001
>>212232017
you used the word no wrong

>>212232008
I refuse to believe this is real

>>212232045
Honestly I figured this was about a fruity little boy from the start just by the art. Was the space abduction thing a metaphor for something?

>>212231916
It was gay on all but name. As quoted in this thread there was no point to the movie with him being straight.

>>212231916
it simply reinforced that this was made with the intention of being a gay movie

>>212231666
checked, but you could have just said fags are evil

>>212232105
gay boy feels he doesn't belong in this world and wants to be someplace where he is accepted because there must be a world made for him. pixar replaced gay with autistic (what did you mean by this, pixar?) and ran with it

>>212231413
>Although viewers expressed how much they enjoyed the movie, they were also asked how many of them would see it in a theater, and not a single hand was raised
Well they were obviously lying about the first part then.

>>212232185
Ah I see. It’s like how every gay boy stuck out in the suburbs dreams of moving to New York or some other big city.

>>212232242
yeah, that's a better analogy

>>212231311
It's not some grand conspiracy anon- shareholders just don't give a shit what Pixar (or any their departments) make when they're doing a low risk project like this. It's the old singles & doubles strat Eisner employed- they make a bunch of low risk products from whatever ideas the animation department shits out, keep costs lower by recycling that samey Pixar animation style they've reused like 8 times at this point (probably to outsource to Asian companies), and whether it fails or not isn't a big deal since the duds will make most of it's money back and the winners will cover the costs of the losers.

And they probably give less of a shit than they ever have before since the new mandate isn't to make quality entertainment, it's just to make shit to keep the proverbial buffet stocked for their streaming services.

>inb4 'but anon, surely this will result in a deteriorating quality of products, ultimately tarnishing the brand and ruining Disney ome day!'
Maybe, but the shareholders don't give a shit since they can golden parachute out of there at anytime to go ruin another company or retire.

>>212232008
I was pretty taken aback when that grizzled old pedo ghostworm alien called Boe Jiden burst out of the ground in a geyser of phantasmal xenojizz and snagged Elio down into his subterranean rape grotto for a good thirty minutes of the ol' little boy rollicking. And I was downright shocked when a floating little dumpling ball alien of overlapping apple-hued cheeks then rescued our poor cum-destroyed accidental space ambassador and declared himself DV Jance, leader of the queer resistance.
I just couldn't get a good feel for this film was trying to politically drill into my vacant little head.

>>212231970
>"We're not trying to indoctrinate your kids and turn them into faggots and trannies!"
>[takes out the gay shit from the movie]
>Literally nothing left

>>212231916
>take shit
>add wokeshit (i.e. more shit)
>it's still shit

Shocker.
When you have shit and ad wokeshit, but then take the wokeshit away, you STILL have shit.

>>212231916
The gay stuff was the ONLY substantive element. Once the gay agenda was removed, there was nothing left to interest anyone.

>>212232232
I get a laugh imagining the test audiences for stuff like that black Captain America movie being asked about what they dislike, and everyone glancing around wondering if they're allowed to say they just don't want to see blacks, fags, etc. and then giving spurious reasons like "the music was too loud."

Oh so this is why people are spazzing out at my take on the Marvel Universe being conservative! Elio bombed so that means all gay people have been defeated.

>>212232321
I was going to type "lol" but then I realized how disbursing this all is.

Why couldn't we just have the film that the first trailer promised?
>lonely kid with no friends and constantly-working mother accidentally gets abducted by aliens
>they think he's earth's leader and he keeps up the ruse because he feels like he fits in for the first time
>eventually has to come clean but teaches the aliens, and the entire world, something about humanity along the way
Throw in some plot about a galactic vote to plunder resources from a weak alien planet where Elio is the only one to stand up and vote against it, sparking an unexpected voting rebellion, and you have the hallmarks of a pixar classic right there
>stand up for the little guy and what's right, even if it puts you at risk
>you don't have to be a genius or qualified to know what the right thing is
>anyone can make a difference

>>212232601
Sounds kind of like incel apologia, which is verboten

>>212232601
OK, but where's the transsexual stuff

>>212232285
Hit the nail on the head anon.

I think that people accusing suits of being in on the gay fanaticism mindvirus are giving them too much credit: their only interest is making money, if in the current cultural landscape it was okay to nazi salute and beat up fags and nogs in the streets they'd be bankrolling those movies no problem. Simply put they just go along with whatever is culturally "hip", but caring only for the money. Further, these ultrafaggot basedboys and women are the workforce they have at their disposal so that's what they have to accept being their moviemakers, it is what it is, the show must go on, the movies must be created regardless of how good or bad they are to keep everyone on payroll, the suits above all

My gut feel that it was faggot shit proven right again

>>212232651
>incels
>standing up for the little guy, knowing what's right and putting yourself at risk to do the right thing
lmao

>>212231666
Ok Jordan Peterson

>>212230367
>This defanged and defaggoted Elio on the other hand, has a different issue wherein this is absolutely zero hook. Nothing conceptually that immediately compels people,
That only goes to show the original idea did not have any real hook either, it was pure faggot propaganda for children with no other qualities included.

>>212230010
It would also be weird if an 11 year old kid had Sports Illustrated swimsuit model girls on his wall. Like why even imply any sexuality at all for a character that young, it's just weird

>>212230673
Disney wants it to happen, and they're waiting and hoping for the day these kind of projects succeed
They're just mad they get called on it

>>212232285
Other anon was right though. 2 years ago one of the Disney's board members said the gay stuff is hurting their brand all the other board members scolded him for that. So some of the biggest shareholders for Disney are true faggot fanatics ready to die on that hill of denial if necessary.

>>212230367
This is a good post. I fear you used too many "big" words to be comprehended by the majority of users on this site, but I appreciate you

>>212232601
Or they could have simply used all the money injected into this ropey old piece of faggot-proselytising nonsense and made a film called 'Harry the Skateboarding Hippo' which could have been about teenage rebellion, body image issues, and the spirituality of alternative sport lifestyles, and would have probably made way more than Elio.
That's the problem I have with these films, apart from them being made by insidious pedo cults of course. Artistically, there may be some merit to the notion of exploring complicated and unique issues relevant to modern and progressive Western modes of thought, like diddling kids or the right to wear electrified nipple clamps in the presence of school children as an expression of one's true and honest gender identity, but realistically, Harry the Hippo's just gonna make way more money, and has universal appeal.
I feel like the managerial staff at Pixar need something like that in their offices. A 'Harry the Hippo' threshold meter for box office projections.

>>212231916
Maybe Disney should clue in that their creators all fucking suck now.
Take away the fag shit and all that's left is a horrible movie nobody wants.

>>212232285
>whether it fails or not isn't a big deal since the duds will make most of it's money back and the winners will cover the costs of the losers.

It's honestly amazing the shareholders get away with this practice and I guess overall if they feel there's a profit they're okay with it but it shows just how much Disney rely on their few hits now.

>Onward
>Budget: $200 million
>Box Office: $142 million

>Soul
>Budget: $150 million
>Box Office: $122 million

>Onward
>Budget: $200 million
>Box Office: $142 million

>Luca
>Budget: unknown
>Box Office: $51 million

>Turning Red
>Budget: $175 million
>Box Office: $21 million

>Lightyear
>Budget: $200 million
>Box Office: $226 million

>Elemental
>Budget: $200 million
>Box Office: $496 million

>Inside Out 2
>Budget: $200 million
>Box Office: $1.69 billion

>Elio
>Budget: $300 million
>Box Office: $72 million

This doesn't take marketing into account but on raw numbers Disney gets to point to that one hit and say, 'see that? Over 5 years we made over a billion profit through our Pixar division'

>total spend: $1.82 billion
>total box office: $2.96 billion

Yet if Inside Out 2 had not been a major hit and we take it out of the equation over five years they've lost $350 million and almost certainly a lot more when marketing is factored in.

>total spend: $1.62 billion
>total box office: $1.27 billion

The shareholders should be more diligent because the studios are basically just burning hundreds of millions at a time until they luck into a hit. Were it not for Inside Out 2 Pixar would be a miserable loser from a financial standpoint over the last five years.

>>212233006
>they make harry the skateboarding hippo
>it flops
>they have no excuses or criticism shields

is the game they're playing.

People are gonna disagree with me because of OP's specific example but there is absolutely no reason why any filmmaker should test screen their movies, If you are so beta you have to seek approval of others at the expense of your artistic vision, you and/or your studio are not talented enough to make movies.

>>212232934
>Disney's board members said the gay stuff is hurting their brand all the other board members scolded him for that.
It's like he said >>212232670 even if nobody actually watches movies with trans/gay characters or whatever, you can't come out and say 'we need to stop featuring movies with trans/gay characters' because that shit is still hip and popularized by retarded activists and college kids. They might not go out and watch all the gay cartoons/pander bait you churn out, but that doesn't change the reality that they're still out there waving rainbow dildos around in a parade and embedded in current pop culture, so woe be unto you to decry their plight.
>>212233006
>Or they could have simply used all the money injected into this ropey old piece of faggot-proselytising nonsense and made a film called 'Harry the Skateboarding Hippo' which could have been about teenage rebellion, body image issues, and the spirituality of alternative sport lifestyles
They could have, but that probably wasn't an option their animation department chock full of caltech graduates would come up with. In fact they probably came up with even gayer and troonier ideas than Elio, and the studio decided to go with Elio on account of it being the least queer centric.

>>212233965
Mad God really should have been test screened

>>212233965
mad god is a pretty egregious example of a desperate need for editing. only about 15 minutes of it is good.

>>212230544
That’s impossible. Based off what I’ve read in all of the years I’ve been here, 90% of 4chan users are 6’2 white men descended from the proto-Indo-European Yamnaya and have 8in cocks, 150+ IQ, and are married with many white children

>>212229988 (OP)
If only it was more gay it would have hit a billy

>>212232934
>we should just make normal disney movies for kids
>WHAT THE FUCK NO WE NEED CHILDREN TO CONSTANTLY BE THINKING ABOUT GAY SEX AND TRANSITIONING!
Why are all Disney employees like this?

>>212230367
You get -1000 ESG score

>>212234357
question with a question, can you be fired for being openly gay?

>>212232856
There are tons of under 12 male characters who are straight coded. It’s basically the norm.

>>212234425
You become fire proof if you are gay at Disney, you would probably get sued for firing a gay person.

>>212234460
Correct. Now map out that logic to the entire company.

>>212233125
>Luca
>Budget: unknown
>Box Office: $51 million
This is incredibly disingenuous, the movie literally did not get a theatrical release (you are counting the post-covid re-release). Also luca is the best pixar movie in 5-10 years

>>212234546
True, and that is why Disney will never be able to correct course.

>>212234584
hey shill, just because no actual person saw the movie and thus can't disagree with you, doesn't mean they believe you.

>>212234657
and even suggesting there's a correct course would be grounds for termination.

>>212234666
nta but Luca was a cute movie, but of course fags latched onto it because it's impossible for an underage boy to be friends with another underage boy unless they're gay.

>>212234768
okay shill

>>212234768
This sentiment is one of many reasons why I think men are having less friends nowadays, honestly. Gays have ruined friendship between straight men in any type of media. I fucking hate it.

>>212234768
fags latched onto luca because the boys look like little faggots.

>>212235031
>fags latched onto luca because the boys look like little boys.
ftfy

>>212235339
i don't know what country you're from, but those kids looked gay as hell to everyone else.

>>212235428
This. With their sexy little boy mouths, and their sexy little boy legs, and their "cum in my little boy butthole" expressions.

>>212234309
They’re calling it the GBOAT

>>212235573
Easy, James Gunn. You're gonna get canceled again.

>>212235708
gayest boy of all time?

>>212230367
So some fags made a faggy movie, then at the last second they paniced and removed the faggotry leaving nothing but an empty shell?

>>212229988 (OP)
I literally knew it was a fag movie, it just looked like one even if they cut out the gay shit.

>>212233965
test screening as such isn't a problem, generally creators should seek feedback and input, especially in commercial enterprises. The problem is filtering every product to conform to the desires of the brown masses.

>>212232856
Anon, are you gay?

>>212236028
>the desires of the brown masses.
its been proven they want attractive straight white people tho

the issue is confirming to the wants of the executives who can't be fired for various reasons.

>>212229988 (OP)
Lol

>>212231916

One the best movies of all time is a multicultural gay movie.

>>212230544
Dont black pill the effort poster,or do you want him to make this into a i-funny meme?

>>212231806
>Change the name to Ellis
>Boy is now white
>setting is now a Dick Van Dyke show 60's suburb
>Aliens are now all redesigned to look like 1950's rubber suit aliens from mystery Science Theater movies
KIno. Would've made 700 million at least.

>>212230736
>They were getting unlimited Blackrock funding as long as they kept promoting globohomo.

Unless Niggerstone's grand plan is to start seizing IPs as collateral once Disney defaults on its debts, loaning money to a business that's actively pissing away money is a BAD THING, because the second go under, you're in the hole for a couple billion with nothing to show for it. Not only are you never getting that money back, it attracts the attention of the FDIC and other regulatory agencies who might've been willing to overlook your shady lending practices otherwise.

>>212230010
Oy vey stop antisemitisming me

>>212236658
Blackrock and the Federal Reserve own the US government, retard. Also
>pissing away money
lmao implying Federal Reserve debt notes are "money"

>>212237081
>Blackrock and the Federal Reserve own the US government, retard.

Two of these hold billions of dollars own billions of dollars in assets, the other literally PRINTS the dollars.

>lmao implying Federal Reserve debt notes are "money"

It's currency printed and backed up by a national government that's used for goods and services, that makes it money.

I know you schizos are economically illiterate but try to keep up please.

>>212232670
>if in the current cultural landscape it was okay to nazi salute and beat up fags and nogs in the streets they'd be bankrolling those movies no problem
It's like when they claim to champion gay rigths and whatnot, but then censor anything gay from countries where its not acceptable. Like the two second lesbian kiss in Star Wars. They put it in so they could preach to their western choir about how progressive they are, and then remove it from Chinese and middle eastern showings. If they actually cared about the homos they would stand up for them in markets where they're discriminated against.

>>212229988 (OP)

>>Why are gay adults “queer coding” to other people’s children in movies?!?

Per THR, multiple Pixar staffers have released a scathing report on Elio's development. Here are the key highlights:

- Pixar massively changed Elio after the original cut was test screened, and not a single person raised their hand when asked if they’d pay to see the film in a movie theater.

- A Pixar staffer says, “The Elio that is in theaters right now is far worse than Adrian’s best version of the original.”. “Suddenly, you remove this big, key piece, which is all about identity, and Elio just becomes about totally nothing,”

- The budget was “well north of 200 million”, while other reports suggest the film was 150 Million.

- Originally, Elio was written and presented to be much more queer-coded, a reflection of Adrian Molina himself and his upbringing, but this notion was cut entirely, along with scenes like photo's in Elio's room involving a male crush.

- Pixar employees say that studio executives themselves cut queer elements from ‘Elio’ and the decision did not come from Disney: “A lot of people like to blame Disney, but the call is coming from inside the house. A lot of it is obeying-in-advance behavior, coming from the higher execs at Pixar.”

- Former Pixar assistant editor Sarah Ligatich, who provided feedback during Elio production as a member of the company’s internal LGBTQ group PixPRIDE said that a number of creatives working on the film stepped down after the directors shared their first cut of the revised movie: “The exodus of talent after that cut was really indicative of how unhappy a lot of people were that they had changed and destroyed this beautiful work.”

>>CalArts looking faggot

>>212235923
as anon said >>212232850
It was an empty shell from the beginning

>>212234768
Literally only women think like that. Actual fags know when boys are gay or not.

>>212237737
Sounds like 90% of the artists who work for these companies are “queer” in some way. Something similar happened with Inside Out 2

>>212234224
im a wendys chef pulling 6 figures

>>212234804
>>212234666

>>212238395
yes anon, random praise for a movie literally no one watched is totally organic.

>>212231666
satan is quite verbose, huh

>>212237737
>the company’s internal LGBTQ group PixPRIDE

>>212237737
>as a member of the company’s internal LGBTQ group PixPRIDE

>>212237737
>company’s internal LGBTQ group

>>212237737
>PixPRIDE

>>212230544
>users

>>212230800
>kids who got molested and enjoyed it
i know this is a joke but its not a good thing to keep saying.
kids dont enjoy getting molested, they just like the attention they're receiving from the groomer since they have "no one else".
or they do have someone else, but the parents they do have arent interested in entertaining the idea that their son should be getting sodomized up his ass.
aka his parents dont understand him and theyre bigots!

even if its a joke when you shift some of the blame to the kid "he wanted it", thats pretty fucked up.

>>212237198
>It's currency
It's not. The Coinage Act (which has never been repealed) spells this out.

>that makes it money
It doesn't, any more than threatening to arrest someone for misgendering doesn't actually make a man turn into awoman .

> Straight kid loner makes sand castles on the beach as embracing his identity.
> Gay kid loner makes fashion out of beach finds as embracing his identity.

Does either of them sound like a Pixar blockbuster? Friggin pull head out of ass immediately.

>>212237628
What region is TR?

>>212238419
>yes anon, random praise for a movie literally no one watched is totally organic.
I spent the whole runtime diligently watching for any homo stuff and didn't see anything.

>>212231413

> Gay director who is gay married to another gay guy makes a gay movie full of gay.

Yes One could see how that would be a surprise to management.

>>212238419
You're right, it's more likely that Disney is paying people to "shill" a 4 year old movie on a board that isn't exactly the biggest fans of their company.

>>212239649
Turkey I think.

>>212230010
HOLY BASED

>>212239701
There’s no real point in lying on the internet

>>212239721
>no we don’t want you to make a movie about little gay boys under our brand
>this is discrimination

>>212239790
Silence, DreamWorks shill.

>>212232285

> /tv/ anon conflates "shareholders" with "management" with "executives" and still expects people to pay attention to him.

>>212239733
Yes, Disney is paying people to shill 30 year old sitcoms they have the streaming rights to.

>>212231916
removing dogshit from a bad dish doesn't make it good, just less awful.

>>212232856
Have you seen SI swimsuit edition lately? They have trannies on the cover and everyone else is brown and fat. Good luck finding someone worthy of putting on your wall.

>>212230367
>these are huge and grotesquely expensive endeavours, and creating ridiculously niche faggot propaganda isn't going to have wide-market appeal.
This is one of the best descriptions of the current state of society as a whole. For some reason, elitist globalist megacorporation faggots are shoving niche stuff and force feeding until they hope that people will give up and give in. Same with politicians. Why even talk about who can go where in public school toilets? It's so extremely niche that it applies to 0,33% of any population. They also know it's extremely niche so to justify their Don Quixote fight-with-windmill-endeavour they are having so so SOOOOOO much propaganda in hopes of utterly brainwashing and convincing children into cutting their dicks and breasts off

>>212230673
They're monolithic. There's too much momentum to stop projects completely and start fresh for most projects. Disney used to manufacture zeitgeist, but then they got left behind and can't catch up.

>>212237737

"Gosh Anon! Thanks for taking me to see Elio. You're like my Gay Best Friend because I know you won't expect sex afterward."

>>212239828
Like the bechdel test, they need a l straight white boy test. Would this story still be marketable if a straight white guy is doing the exact same or similar thing? They are too self absorbed to think anything is gay is the moon landing

Pixar expected the gay little boy stuff. That's why they okayd the film. Pixar is GAF floorboards to rafters.

It was the gay space caterpillar/little boy stuff that came out of left field. Creeped out everybody.

>>212240424
This. No one here wants to hear it but it would have been better if it was gaykino with a cute alien boy love interest and a sincere adventure story

>>212233965
Watching this on shrooms was kino

>>212229988 (OP)
I don't get it.
Alright the movie flopped, for whatever reasons. But box office aside, what problem does the audience has with this movie? It doesn't look like an abysmally bad movie, the reviews are good.
This anon's point >>212230367 but if you check the teaser from a year ago: https://youtu.be/2w_K3CB8PuE
>little kid love aliens
>is abducted, after dreaming about it for years
>is mistaken as the leader of Earth, as something critical is at stake
That's a pretty compelling story

>>212232856
>Natural development is the same as being groomed into a disgusting fetish by perverted freaks
Not even close, faggot.

>>212240759
It's a gay movie, that's my problem.
Same with that baseball show, or Luca.
The intent behind the creatives matter, because they can just pull a Rowling later and say- "yes, so and so was gay, we just couldn't say it"
I won't ever forgive Disney, or their subsidiaries for trying to brainwash my kids.

>>212240759
>Alright the movie flopped, for whatever reasons.
Mysterious, unknowable (but likely antisemitic) reasons.

>>212230589
Onwards should be pointed at as the real turning point to this lame era
God what a boring fucking movie they did everything to be lame

Did RT lie yet again?

>>212240931
>my kids
Yeah sure pal

>>212240931
>that baseball show
huh

>>212230736
it is never going to end, white men applications and wants are still thrown in the trash and niggers are still given 7 figure jobs at fortune 500 if they can count to 3.

literally nothing has changed.

>>212241055
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/disney-pulls-transgender-storyline-win-or-lose-1236088172/

>>212240759
>Disney buried the marketing to put emphasis on Lilo & Stitch (and, this part is just my personal theory, because Pixar cut the gay subplot)
>weird social media smear campaign went down during its early access review period (people claiming the gay stuff was still in, saying things about the movie that proved they didn't see it while encouraging others to believe it was bad)
>people latching on to the human designs as bad and ignoring everything else about the movie
>all this combined with what >>212240931
touched on - people still don't trust Disney after all the other crap they snuck into movies - led to a perfect (shit)storm
which is a shame because this is the closest to a Star Control 2 movie I'll ever get so I really wanted it to do better.

>>212241077
I remember troons were seething about it on Twitter

>>212232232
they liked it as a disney+ feature they could have running in the background while they do their chores

>>212241077
Reminds me of how they had to continuously monitor the daily output for Inside Out 2 to ensure that the “creatives” weren’t putting gay/trans messages in it.

> No quirky Elio loving Alt-Girlfriend.

Hurts so much. Might as well go gay.

>>212241229
I imagine they were
>>212241313
Never heard this before, is there a source?
I would love to read about it

>>212230010
>watch movie with gay people in it
>im gay now
i can't believe jews would do this

why do I have to be born during the gayest faggotiest times ever to grace this planet
tens of thousands of years I could have been born a human and I have to suffer cocksucking eternal

>>212241440
It's like we are already in hell.

>>212241440
Could have been born in Weimar Germany

>>212230367
10/10 ctitic post

>>212229988 (OP)
why would people who already saw the movie for free pay to see the movie in theaters? marketers are retarded

>>212241440
well its only gay if you focus on it. sure theres trans flags in my street posts during pride month. and theyre trying to do faggotry in schools and stuff, and shove it in media, putting "safe space" faggot stickers on commercial windows, etc.
but this stuff only affects you if you let it. by no means am i saying it should be ignored and let to stew, but you do have to go out of your way to find it, imo.

>>212241496
Wouldn't that mean he grew up in Nazi Germany?

>>212241635
>sure theres trans flags in my street posts during pride month. and theyre trying to do faggotry in schools and stuff, and shove it in media, putting "safe space" faggot stickers on commercial windows, etc.
>but you do have to go out of your way to find it
What are you even trying to say lol

>>212230010
The grooming will continue until morale improves.

>>212240759
It's a movie for no one. Even if they supposedly removed the gay stuff the mc still looks faggy and autistic, kids don't want to root for someone that they would bully irl. Besides boys would rather watch something cooler like HTTYD while there's nothing that could appeal to girls in the first place and would rather watch Lilo&Stitch again. Childless weirdos who watch kid stuff are thankfully irrelevant.

>>212232738
Post like this are why Kamala lost the election
Hope you're looking forward to JD Vance as president

>>212237737
>claim the original gay cut of the movie was far better
>the exact same cut that was test screened and no one wanted to pay to watch it
I can't imagine how much of a piece of shit this new cut must be. Also:
>as a member of the company’s internal LGBTQ group PixPRIDE
lmao

>>212229988 (OP)
The original writer/director has that "I got diddled as a kid and I liked it" vibe about him. That he's now gay, swinger/cuck, and designs gay coming of age fanfic tier coming out of the closet stories is to the shock and surprise of no one.

>>212237737
>Originally Elio was going to be bad and gay
>Now it's just bad
wowie!

>>212237737
>Per THR
Got a link?

>>212242715
lol

>>212230544
This is not reddit or twitter

>>212242791
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/elio-pixar-america-ferrera-director-queer-2-1236301860/

>>212241366
>fat
>tattoos
>disney adult
Triple red flag

>>212240931
>It's a gay movie, that's my problem.
How is it gay?

>>212243209
ty anon here's the archived version for anyone who doesn't want to give them clicks:

https://archive.is/gdK6B

>>212229988 (OP)
its so fucking lame that every female disney character is a unstoppable girlboss who gets one action scene after another where the rescure the weak and stupid lae comic relif while boy/male protagonist only do gay shit and are always portrayed as weak, stupid and immature, the butt of every joke and often get teamed up with a girlboss who spends the entire movie rescuing and insulting him.

>>212229988 (OP)
my favorie part of this news story is all the woke journalist implying that studio meddling ruined the movie eventhrough they straigh up said that all the test audience scores were already terrible before they changed it.

>>212238584
I works for a national bank in corporate. We have the same setup of employee representation groups. One group for gays, one for blacks, one for women. Whatever your disability, there's a lobbying group.

>>212243722
>Whatever your disability, there's a lobbying group
kek

>>212241400
Good luck finding that gay gene bro.

>>212239579
money is fake, sex is not

>>212229988 (OP)
Really makes me wonder what that picture was. It was probably just him having fun with a friend.

>>212231534
>DEI slop fails commercially over and over again?
Well, except for the times it doesn't

>make shitty movie with an uninteresting premise, bad art, and don't advertise it
>it performs like dogshit
wowwww

>>212230010
Yesh but we can put straight stuff and that's okay. You seem like a very sexually frustrated little edgelord.

>>212232738
Unironically I struggle to believe a single poster on here hasn’t had a fantasy of talking down a school shooter when they were younger. They become truly bitter post-highschool
*Unless they’re to old to have grown up post-columbine

>>212230010
>muh grooming

Nobody is going to turn gay from seeing a gay character. If you're actually gay, you will realize from seeing guys you find attractive in real life.

>>212244694
>Unironically I struggle to believe a single poster on here hasn’t had a fantasy of talking down a school shooter when they were younger.
Burger moment

>>212244146
Nooo, that doesn't count because... it just doesn't okay!?!?!

>>212244709
There's no gay gene. All of that shit is learned.

>>212229988 (OP)
Disney took the original director who is a fag in real life that wanted Elio to be an autobiographical allegory for coming out as a brown faggot and moved him to Coco 2. They then inserted the people from Turning Red and shitcanned the gay shit to try and appeal to more people. It was DOA regardless, but at least Disney is starting to tone shit down despite them still giving the keys to these projects to people who cannot help themselves but make shit gay. Like yoy could tell they REALLY wanted to make Riley a dyke in Inside Out 2, but they came to their senses and said cut the shit and leave it out.

>>212229988 (OP)
Disney did a better job at pandering to the gays in the 90s when they made villains extra glam geg

>>212230367
This man has an actual brain.

>>212231806
>>212236465
This

>>212230367
Why are people calling this post high iq, it's what everyone is already saying.

>>212229988 (OP)
gays reproduce though molestation/exposure to sexuality during formative/prepubescent years.

>>212246186
Scar is the gayest motherfucker ever put on film and the origibal Lion King is a GOATed Disney flick.

>>212244694
Normal people don't put themselves in a shooters path unless they are armed + trained to use guns on an active shooter.

>>212231872
They hatred for the goym is bigger than their lust for gold

>>212240759
The movie in the trailer makes it come off as being extremely slow/quiet with nothing going on. Like I can't identify even another main character other than the brown kid. Also there is nothing to even absorb or relate to (in a strictly comparative sense), like it seems to be a movie about nothing.

Some other anon mentioned making it retro futuristic with retro futuristic aliens, which would have been more workable. Imagine at the very least you could play off the aliens as having created a version of earth based on 50's radio broadcasts or something (to at least give people something that they can go "aha it's that thing I know").

There is nothing that I can even describe in the trailer to someone else.

>>212232285
The issue with this, is that there isn't anything notable in the movie at all, like there isn't even a toy you can sell out of this.

>>212232185
Dont forget the white chuds bullying him

>>212246521
Disney/Pixar has a real hilarious habit these days where they start rendering the CGI before they've settled on a script, so they invariably find themselves with a bunch of fully-rendered elements that they paid to have produced, but that no longer fit the current story, so they'll change the current story to make sure they get their money's worth with the assets they already have.

>>212237737
>Suddenly, you remove this big, key piece, which is all about identity, and Elio just becomes about totally nothing
It's amazing how close they are to the problem, but they still cannot see it.
They've allowed identity politics to completely eclipse and destroy everything else.

>>212232934
I wonder whats the ethnicity of most disney big shareholders

>>212233125
These guys already own all the money in the world and can print more if needed. Its not about making money

>>212240759
I wouldn’t take my kids to watch this movie

>>212230010
Fpbp

>>212246801
>Can't we just remove the gay part and keep the rest of the story?
>No, the story only works if he's gay

>>212241496
Those folks got to see mustache man gas jews

>>212232856
I was looking at porn when I was 5 years old and I turned out just fine

>>212229988 (OP)
Is gay theme family friendly?

>>212229988 (OP)
Why does the focal or selling point of modern storytelling is all about gay experiences and shit?

Where are the good ole adventure and life lessons?

>>212248511
those implying that growing up, taking responsibility for yourself, and improving the world in traditional ways like starting families and protecting the people close to you are good things, all of which the contemporary media elite consider to be bad things.

>>212246521
>Imagine at the very least you could play off the aliens as having created a version of earth based on 50's radio broadcasts or something
and it isnt the first time popular media has riffed exactly on this type of self-parody

star trek did it multiple times
galaxy quest
contact sorta did the same thing payoff for the MC's own childhood experiences
etc etc
would actually be fresh now in the 2020s, in the 90s it was overused as shit

holy fuck is this entire thread bots

>>212249050
You are a bot, Harry

>>212229988 (OP)
Why's it called Elio? Is it related to Call Me By Your Name?

>>212248511
Western media is centered on depopulation. Faggotry is one of many means to that end.
While it could be argued this has benefits, it's clearly being done in an extremely dysgenic manner.

>>212231736
>Parents tend to be conservative and they don't want their kids consuming homosexual propaganda
Even liberal parents don't want this, they just say they do to be politically correct. When it comes time to actually buy the product they vanish. "Get woke go broke" only happens cause progressives can't bear to watch it either.

>>212230367
>like a vanity project by a faggot director who became blind to the realities of social norms and values outside of himself and the idyllic multicultural genderspazzed San Francisco realm he prances around in.
Thats 80% of current Hollywood projects anon

>>212231666
o7

>>212248629
>growing up, taking responsibility for yourself, and improving the world and protecting the people close to you
Pretty sure gay people have these things too.
I don't even mind having a gay version of them.

I want to watch The Diary of an Amazing Journey (the protagonist could be gay, disabled, or brainwashed by religion).
I just don't want to watch The Gay Diary of a Gay Person all the time, especially when the agenda feels blatant.
(If a show or movie is about sexuality, it needs to be witty or funny. If it feels preachy, like it's pushing an agenda or trying to change how people think, it just doesn’t land. I feel like Hollywood used to handle this well maybe decades ago, but nowadays it’s just become completely preachy. It doesn’t try to impress, it’s just propaganda delivering a message.)

Can anyone tell the difference between "The Diary of an Amazing Journey" and "The Gay Diary of a Gay Person"? Or am I just innately homophobic or a bigot?

>>212232232
They were being polite
>So you like it?
>Eeeeh it was ok
>Would you to see it on theaters?
>Fuck no nigga
That would be a genuine answer

>>212230697
Yeah, I already have the Boku no Pico series at home.

>>212232232
>Well they were obviously lying about the first part then.
Nah, they had to say they liked it. Otherwise they would be labelled as homophobic.

>>212244694
my fantasy was being the school shooter

>>212249207
>"Get woke go broke" only happens cause progressives can't bear to watch it either.
Sadly this. If the woke crowd ruins the IP but still has fun themselves, I wouldn’t be as upset.
Because that's win-lose situation.
Now it's a retarded lose-lose situation.

>>212241400
it's called normalization propaganda

>>212250426
I do miss the antagonistic marketing that was so hot a few years ago, it always blew up in their face.
"You racists are gonna hate this movie hahahahaha!!!!"
"Racists didn't come see our movie so it bombed"

>>212247425
you're still here so no you didn't

>>212229988 (OP)
So the movie as-is has Elio misbehaving and excited to run away from his caretaker to go live with some strange adult aliens. Once he gets there the aliens immediately love him and it's basically a party where everything is free and plentiful.

I wonder where the identity affirmation and lgbtq stuff come in because if he was going to get that from the aliens it looks groomy as fuck.

>>212230544
Thanks for sharing this on a more intelligent platform, kind stranger!

>>212234448
>It’s basically the norm.
It is the norm. Most people are straight.

>>212250982
>I wonder where the identity affirmation and lgbtq stuff come in
>because if he was going to get that from the aliens it looks groomy as fuck
Anon, it IS grooming.

>>212230010
they literally already did that though, that's what the post is saying, they took out the gay shit

>>212229988 (OP)
Going off that picture alone I can't tell this apart from the last seven films they put out. It could be a screenshot from any of them.

lol plebbit doesn't even dare to consider that the faggotry was the reason why test audiences didn't like it

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1lojvuk/inside_elios_catastrophic_path_america_ferreras/

>>212230010
jews cannot and will not stop raping kids. you will have to stop them.

>>212253178
>the marketing forum doesn't acknowledge anything that isn't part of the marketing campaign

wow

>>212230367
The character designs are fugly. I'm tired of this bean mouth phenomenon. I'm also tired of Pixar's cutesy saccharine attempts at pulling on audience's heartstrings. Early Pixar knew how to add in a decent mix of jokes and writing with some menace. The first Toy Story practically has an element of psychological horror to it. The modern stuff is so stale and unoffending and unrelatable.

I think people had enough of these bay area coded kids being "different"

But this is also a larger issue where a lot of industry scriptwriter veterans got pushed out (or left) and all the new scripts are just cooked up in house based on committee decisions and marketing metrics. It's too doctored and overbaked.
Not to mention that you can sell Lion King, Little Mermaid, Snowwhite, Aladdin or any of the classics based on a few key visuals but you can't do that with these new movies. If you try to do key visuals it's always some random grab-bag of multi-culti characters with beanfaces being obnoxious and the environments and concepts look totally interchangeable.

>>212230367
probably the greatest post I have seen this year. bravo governor.

>>212230010
name the jew
it's always the jew

>>212234309
>queer coded
what does this mean?

>>212253620
pretty much. they don't know how to make movies that appeal to general audiences. thus, they will continue to fail into oblivion and that's a good thing. if a cook makes a burger that only a few people like, it will fail unless the cook wakes up.

>>212253916
>queer coded
>what does this mean?

It means gays are imagining the child characters are gay and then thinking about having sex with them.

>>212254263
>they don't know how to make movies that appeal to general audiences.
So..................

Is Elio a massive hit and banger within LGBT population?

>>212232856
>I didn't start hitting puberty at 10
LMAO, low test FAGGOT. I was blowing fat loads to sexy girls before I hit 11 years old.

>>212230010
First Post Best Fucking Post

>>212230010
Your child WILL suck cock. Your offspring WILL consume semen by the gallon and say "Yummy!"

>>212229988 (OP)
In one hand, I love seeing the cult of WOketaRDISM COLLAPSE. In the other hand, it can't be a coincidence it's all happening just when the US needs troops to defend the Suwalki gap, the Persian gulf and the Taiwan strait...

*tap tap tap*

>I love seeing the cult of WOketaRDISM COLLAPSE
Never gonna happen completely. Far too entrenched in all aspects of society and culture. Will return with a vengeance once the political pendulum swings back to the left in an election cycle or two.

>>212229988 (OP)
I literally have no idea what the movie is about from the promo material.

Something about aliens? Kid meets aliens? Yeah, there's a thousand kid's movies like that, The Iron Giant and ET are the gold standard and will never be topped.

... OOOOOOHHHHHH, this one has some acceptably brown mystery meat boy. One with an eye patch for "le disability representation." OH, AND it's in that hideous beanmouth style that Pixar has been using for the past 10 years!

>>212231916
the movie was entirely gay so removing it made it barebones lol

>two more weeks until the sign posted in 2023 comes true
>*tap tap tap*

>>212229988 (OP)
This just proves gay thing is forced. Most people don’t want to see gays.

>>212255196
To be fair it did become true, but the Iranians are such jobbers they just took the L while claiming they won.

>>212232856
I was jerking it to giantess hentai at 11

>>212233125
Maybe I’m wrong about this and I don’t see what else goes into the job but I feel like the average /tv/ anon would do a better job than most studio heads
Like I feel that 95% of anons here would just prevent all these deracinated, homogenized zogboiled goyflix from ever getting greenlit
>”so what’s the movie you want to make”
>”some wangsty bullshit about growing up as a gimpy brown faggot. I’ve got the voice actors lined up and they look like I picked people at random from a free palestine rally”
>”yeah that all sounds stupid as shit. The movie is not getting made and you’re fired”
Like this place has been saying for months that this will flop. How come none of the highly paid execs at Disney saw this coming?

I've been walking out on movies more and more these days.

>>212229988 (OP)
TAKE DOWN
TAKE DOWN
TAKE DOWN, DOWN. DOWN, DOWN
HUNTRIX GIRLS TO THE WORLD
GET THIS FAGGOT OFF THE STAGE

>>212255785
why would you go to this?

>>212255923
My sister's kids wanted to see it.

You wonn't get any creative visions realized while your culture has it that the kind of people who have vision are 'not collaborative'

>>212255963
and you walked out and left them there, or you pulled them out of it too? how did that go down with them and your sister?

>>212255785
>More beanmouth
This artstyle needs to fucking die already.

>>212256024
I beat them all into compliance (including sister)

>>212229988 (OP)
To be fair to Pixar, it's been years since I've felt like a movie ticket was a worthwhile purchase. The industry is a walking corpse.

>no porn
Yeah, this flopped

>>212229988 (OP)
Between Coco, Luca, and Elio, I think people are just tired of Hispanic lead movies. Idk why they keep trying it. I guess it does well on streaming platforms in South America?

>>212230367
>This defanged and defaggoted Elio on the other hand, has a different issue wherein this is absolutely zero hook. Nothing conceptually that immediately compels people, upon seeing the poster, or the advert, or the McDonalds Toys.
Kind of agree here, but in a different way; the biggest issue with commercially produced homoslop is trying to make "being gay" the entire axle on which the story is propelled, but there's kind of nothing there to play with in the modern media landscape where being gay is so normalised. They could have kept the original gay bits and it still would have sucked, because it sounds like there's nothing going on around that part that's interesting.
The whole thing is kind of demeaning to gay people and gay experiences as well, just making out that their sexuality is some kind of commodified experience you can write a generic high-budget kids blockbuster around.

>>212229988 (OP)
Even though people have been cowed into “accepting” gay people, most people DO NOT want their kids to grow up to be gay. Not surprising this shit didn’t fly.

People are okay with fags as long as they stay away from their kids

>>212236658
they're defrauding white investors, they don't give a fuck, it's a pyramid scheme that makes propaganda we've known this for so fucking long and people still act like it's a conspiracy and wonder how these companies can lose money year after year tet still stay afloat

>>212230010
Based

>>212229988 (OP)
The premise, gay or no gay, just don’t look interesting or engaging.

>WOT IF LITTLE BOY MET ALIENS AND HE WAS AMBASSADOR OF EARTH

>>212230831
>As far as they're concerned, you can watch the gay kids movie or sit and stare at the wall.
Then they need the reality check of the fact that there are enough good movies and tv shows that already were produced that I could download and watch till I die without me ever having to give disney a single cent