This show is insufferable.
The drama boils down to: “I’m so weak and pathetic, I can’t handle basic social functions like small family gatherings, I’M GOING INSAANE.”
Queue foid resting hand on shoulder: “It’s okay, and you’re so brave for being here, I love you and appreciate you.”
Honest to God, what pathetic losers must the writers be to reflect their meek existence through this show.
I haven’t even mentioned the NIGGERS, like bossy bitch Cheadleface who literally stabs a guy in the ass and doesn’t even apologize. That’s another thing: take a shot every time Carmy apologizes for doing nothing wrong, you’ll poison your liver. Niggers don’t admit their wrongdoing in this show, ever, and it’s incredibly infuriating.
I got hooked by the premise of a world class alpha white dude chef running a dodgy sandwich shop and making it great, but that’s not the show. The show’s message is: “everyone is a wreck without therapy, and isn’t my life so hard I have to cook food. Kill whitey.”

>>212230344 (OP)
This is why writers shouldn't go to therapy because anyone who does for a long enough period will inevitably have their sessions start to leach into their dialogue (both on and off the page).

>>212230344 (OP)
That old black lady really pissed me off, she never apologized or admitted to sabotaging the young black girl, even as the black girl was doing everything she could to help the old lady adjusting to the changes coming to the restaurant.
If you can't own up to having been a insecure little bitch and apologize for your behavior, then you will always be a bitch and nothing else. So when later on the show tries to show how she's really a good person with pride and work ethic, it's too little too late without an apology and making restitution.

>>212230344 (OP)
The "hypercompetent professional whose personal life is in shambles" genre simply exists because regular people like to think being walking blobs of mediocrity is actually the way to happiness.

>>212230344 (OP)
It just seems like a bunch of assholes yelling at each other and being over sensitive about any possible point of disagreement or conflict.
I don't get it.

It has some good moments but yeah

>>212230412
that's why I couldn't watch Bojack. all the writers just vomited their therapy bullshit into every episode

>>212230716
Nothing is more insufferable but what else can you expect from people who pay others to create schematic scapegoats to justify their shitty behavior?

>>212230679
Which is pretty much all of modern drama, sadly. For some reason, writers have gotten it into their heads that every character have to be constantly expressing their emotions at every single opportunity. If they are angry, they will explode over the slightest thing, if they hold resentments they have to jump at every slight, if they are sad then any setback will make them tear up.
God do I miss stoicism being portrayed on screen.

>>212230344 (OP)
Ahhhh, I'm stirring last nights creme brulee

>>212230344 (OP)
>"THE RESTAURANT IS TOO BUSY, FULL HOUSE EVERY SINGLE DAY. BUT WE'RE STILL NOT MAKING ANY PROFITS. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!"

Is season 4 better or worse than season 3?

>>212231006
Much, much worse

>>212231006
Better. This show is a filter for both soiboi Marvel fags that need quips endlessly and racist idiots who just want Yellowstone Version 5 made.

>>212231006
Same unBEARable shit and a waste of time.

>>212231101
Dammit that kind explains how they just shit it out and swept it under the rug. No one is talking about it. Which means its probably worse than bad, its boring.

>>212230344 (OP)
Their mistake was making the restaurant high end. Streamlining the menu making it smaller apart from fixing their equipment would've been better.

>>212231327
I think that is the ending they're setting up with the Uncle and the black guy who is continuing the beef shop. I think it will turn out that they will get the Michelin star... only to have the Uncle sell the building as the franchised beef will end up making way more money. Capitalism!

>>212230412
>>212230716
How do we meme the correlation between writers inserting their therapy into shows and poisoning the well with the faux-intellectual bullshit an average american shrink spews. an influence that the show takes a grave hit from and sometimes can never recover from it.

>>212230777
Or not even stoicism. Just adults handling emotions like a fucking adult. Everyone acts like an emotionally unstable teenager and everything has to be exaggerated up to 11. They're caricatures of people.

Has he fucked Sydney yet? That’s what I would have done.

>>212230679
neurotic jew bullshit, new shit same as old man

might put that shit in a different color gel-cap is all

>>212230344 (OP)
>carmy: so, uh... about last night...
>sydney: yeah...
>carmy: you, uh... you wanna talk about it?
>sydney: no, no... I'm all good... all good... over here.
>carmy: okay, well, uh... I just... I don't really know how to handle this? you know?
>sydney: no, yeah, I know, for sure...
>carmy: just, chef... know I respect you. I respect the hell out of you.
>sydney: me too, chef.

end scene, repeat with three other sets of characters for the next thirty minutes

>>212231482
Nah, he's banging the whore from Animal Kingdom. Sydney is meant for the big Richie cock.

>>212230412
at some point therapy changed. they used to be supporting clients' ability to function. now it's controlling their personality + social order??

>>212230344 (OP)
>called The Bear
>is about a twink
WTF?

>>212230679
When Tim Russert of Meet the Press died, he took the rational civil society with him. Now it's all over-emotional overgrown children.

>>212231555
richie has a micropenis

its fak with the soda can dick

>>212231732
Which, Francine?

>final episode is literally 'people are loudly arguing on a parking lot for half an hour'
Bravo, give them another Emmy for the best comedy show.
Shan't be watching any further.

>>212231956
Great example of a bottle episode tbqh.

>>212231984
I guess they blew their load and budget too early on The Wedding episode and all those stupid unnecessary cameos.

sex with francine

>>212231848
yeah

BFFFC (big fat fak futa cock)

>>212230344 (OP)
>I haven’t even mentioned the NIGGERS

To be honest the best episode was the one where the younger black guy goes to Denmark.

Ayo is the only reason I watch this drek anymore.

>>212231596
I don't think you know what a twink is.

>my second rotation back into sizzler
>i hardly ever talk about it. there was five of us. one kid, he must've been like nineteen. his name was nick. i tell you man when those steamtrays of fettuccine had to be replaced about six times in one night..
>on that same night we also ran out of sour cream, total shit show
>let's just say at the end of that night he was no longer a kid. you could just see it in his eyes you know, he changed

*hits cigarette

>to be honest we all changed. but we could handle it, we'd been in the shit before
>when we made it back home we all promised to stay in touch
>i later heard that nick hanged himself in his garage. he couldn't adjust back to the civilian life after all he witnessed
>but i understand now..
>he didn't die at home in his garage
>he died that night at sizzler

>>212231233
Yeah even season 3 had Forks

>>212231548
You forgot the alternate high intensity high anxiety scene template we should care about very much because ???

>>212230344 (OP)
I dropped the show when he didn't fire the bigger that decided to play donut chef during worktime than do his job

>working class cook who says cousin and fag every other line
>calls out the nerds from the pilot with Reddit buzzwords
Do the writers really think people talk this way irl?

>>212232476
semper fry brother
burn local, always

>>212232798
Yeah odds are he wouldn’t even know about capeshit or internet memes outside of sports related slop.

>>212230344 (OP)
a civvie would never get it

wait until you serve a tour in a Thai restaurant. gmen ordering cocktails, line cooks putting shiskebabs in your boots

>>212232798
He's not a working class cook, he's a drug dealer.
Also you're missing the point, the joke is that it's incongruous and unusual. Like when grandma starts raping faster than Eminem.

>>212231006
I'd say it's basically the same. Nothing happens, you could roll season 3 and 4 together into a single season and it would still feel sparse.
What season-arc there is is just a more opaque, vaguely articulated version of the "oh gosh we need money to make the restaurant go!" plot from the beginning, but they completely fail to make it compelling or tense, they literally put a ticking clock in the kitchen to clumsily hammer-home what was going on but while the characters mention it and refer to it the show never conveys a sense that anyone really cares. In the finale it counts down to 0 and nobody really gives a shit.
They spend too much time doing montages of food to music to develop the characters properly, so instead they just airdrop in scenes that are the milestones of personal arcs without actually doing the legwork that goes between them, so nothing feels deserved. The likeable characters are vastly outnumbered by the unlikeable ones.

On the plus side my cute maternal wife Natalie "Sugar" Berzatto-Katinsky looks great after losing a lot of weight since season 3

>>212232798
>Dude you should watch The Bear, the writing is SO good!
The writing:

>>212233394
>without actually doing the legwork that goes between them
Actually I will mention that there is a storyline about Tina really really wanting to make pasta in under 3 minutes and eventually she does, it's not very exciting but it's at least well-executed in terms of basic storytelling competency.

>>212233498
Did she pour olive oil into the water so it doesnt stick?

>>212232391
A little sissy faggot, like the lead in this

>>212233868
No, they are attractive and young looking boys, typically late teens to early twenties. This fucker is in his 30s and pretty far from attractive.

>>212231548
>>sydney: no, yeah, I know, for sure...
Emmy award winning dialogue right there. Which episode you ask? ALL of them.

>>212230344 (OP)
The best thing about this show is the food. That's it. The best episodes are where the main character is the food itself
There was an episode when the main character was at the Cooking School/University and the entire episode was about food and how you can make it Art.

One thing I'll give this show credit for is having a consistent release schedule with one season a year.

>>212230344 (OP)
the drama boils down to black people taking up all the screen time

>few days ago
>no threads on s4
>look up a reddit one
>the sois are actually acting like ayolmao is beautiful and hot

>>212234561
>Black people should just play new characters instead of Blackwashing white characters
>Ugh no, not like that.

>>212234688
Ayo is actually quite cute though.

>>212230344 (OP)
How come Carmine's fridge rant from 2 years ago is treated like some fucking war crime? He is angry as fuck that he is locked up and has a panicky spergout that he can't be successful as fuck if he has Claire in his life, but people act like he ranted about her specifically being shit, being ugly annoying, that he hopes she gets ran over and dies, etc. It's ridiculous.

>>212234760
nobody in this show acts a real person

That scene where he confronts Joel McHale really was the last drop for me. You knew from the start it would be an "I don't think about you at all" type scene, and it was, and somehow it was even more predictable than you could predict, and completely underwhelming. Of course it was made a lot worse by all of the UMs and UHHs and the repeating of words thing Jeremy Allen White does to show that he's a good actor (I-I-I I get anxious. Wh-wh-wh why are you like this).
Was this happening around the same time where he was arguing with Sydney? Made no fucking sense why she was upset. We were shown how Joel was irrationally abusive and supposed to believe Lip just shouting at her every now and then made him a tyrant? She was an ungrateful fuck from the beginning, but I guess she's black so it's ok.
The episode where they fight at the Christmas party was really good though. I watched it twice, really hit home. The one good part of the show come to think of it.

>>212234760
He literally psychs himself out 99% of the time. If I were his cousin I’d tell him to just quit and try something else since it’s clear that he isn’t cut out for the culinary arts.

I have never seen it remarked on that by introducing the English guy that unwittingly gave us a guy who's be a way more compelling partner in crime for Carm than the ugly black girl. Scrappy English guy trying to make it big with his charm tard wrangling his "I AM GOING INSANE!" business partner and co-chef that was once the guy that mogged him in the kitchen day in day out almost effortlessly.

>>212234867
I'm a little fuzzy on his 'trauma' outside of the NYC chef bullying him verbally and his mother getting drunk and ramming a car into the house once.

>>212230344 (OP)
I stopped watching after episode 1. The screaming and melodrama over running a shithole restaurant is ear-splitting.

>Richie works for the fancy restaurant for 5 days
>on one of those 5 days he's being a pissy little bitch
>so 4 days of actual productive work and hitting it off with the staff
>they treat him like he's an old friend that worked there for years at the end of season 3
Lol, so weird. They easily could have had him work there for far longer in s2 before The Bear opens up

>COUSIN! A customer came in and... and ordered fries!
>...Fuck... Fuck! FUUUCCCK!
>Carmine begins punching walls and throws a metal bowl at a wall, denting it
>FUCK FUCK FUCK! FUCK YOU RICHIE!
>NO FUCK YOU!
>FUCK YOU!
>FUCK YOU!
>FUCK... FUCK CIVILIANS!!!
>they both begin screaming in rage
>directed by Ayo

>>212235039
Richie is legit the type of guy who should be in fine dining. He rolls with the punches and doesn’t isn’t super sensitive about criticism like his neurotic manlet cousin.

>watch season 1 and 2
>pretty good
>watch season 3
>it's shit
>don't bother with season 4

>>212230344 (OP)
>I got hooked by the premise of a world class alpha white dude chef running a dodgy sandwich shop
lol you got the trash show you deserved

>>212234948
His brother killed himself for seemingly no reason and he feels guilty about it.

>>212233868
>little sissy faggot
Tee hee.

>>212231577
Talk therapy these days is like paying for a friend. If you have a specific mental issue I’d recommend a psychologist.

>>212235481
What even is the point of it for those that are introspective enough to realise what their issues are? I get therapy shilled to me now and again by friends but I know exactly what my issues and what their root causes from my childhood and teenage years are so... why bother? I view a better use of time being trying to improve your present circumstances in life. Like I have a type of body dysmorphia that rooted in a way that social media was irrelevant to its cause (instead it was family related shit) but doing talky talk with a therapist will change what exactly? Fuck all, but hitting the weights and doing bulk/cut cycles do help.

>>212235304
>>watch season 1 and 2
>>pretty good
>>watch season 3
>>it's shit
>>don't bother with season 4

/thread

The only reason I watch

>>212235909
Forks is worth watching in season 3. Skip eveything else though

>>212236291
Forks is probably the best episode in the show, it can even work as a standalone short movie

>>212234867
>If I were his cousin I’d tell him to just quit and try something else since it’s clear that he isn’t cut out for the culinary arts.
This. I can't take this show seriously because the main character acts like he's being forced into these stressful situations that cause him to freak out, yet he could always just let his uncle buy the place. It's hard to feel bad for him when he has an out, but chooses not to because he wants to turn a comfy sandwich shop into some pretentious restaurant.

>>212237368
That's a very real archetype though -- the overachieving anal retentive.

They need to just make Syd and Carm get together. They’re dragging it at this point

>>212230344 (OP)
the newest season has literally no content
you can tell they ran out of content after season 1 but at this point the well is bone dry and they are simply asking the audience to pretend there is water.

>>212230344 (OP)
yeah I couldnt give less of a shit about some restaurant and the annoying people who work there

every recent popular tv show is dogshit:
>the bear
>severance
>succession
>white lotus
>last of us

who likes any of this?

>>212238171
Ayo has said that she is against the pairing due to the in-universe age gap and power disparity.

>>212231956
>on
in*
stupid esl

>>212238733
western society is so fucking embarrassing and cucked. jesus. east asians and east euros are living in paradise.

>>212238851
>east euros are living in paradise
yeah, ukraine and russia look real nice right now

>>212238851
He’s literally her boss for a large part of the series and is like 10 years older than her. It also reinforces the negative stereotype that women only get where they are in the workplace because they slept with their bosses.

Is fucking Brie Larson the celeb cameo for the year? Fucking gross.

>>212237301
its a good episode because it cuts out every other actor in the show
if only they had learnt something from that...
instead they saw it as "wow people really like the episode, I KNOW! well take the staff from that episode and shove them into the bear for season 4!"

>>212234176
I was about to mock this webm but that's really fucking cool.

>>212238647
We are in the Dogshit Age of TV this year its pretty disappointing, also counting Squid Game and Ironheart. I guess Andor will be the best show of the year unless people get their shit together.

i really kinda hope it gets canceled. im def done

the ad libbed dialogue was really bad.
its funny that they made the pastry chef a fag or was he always a fag? now theres a creepy love triangle with him and bandersnatch/ adam warlock tool.
the worst for me were the jamie lee curtis scenes, had to FF thru them.
i also cant stand that guy who plays Ritchie, ever since he ruined that punisher series... hes cringe.
and the dialogue between clairebear after 6 months post walk in cooler scene was so bad.
thyere just like throwing shit at the wall at this point. every season gets worse

>>212238647
>>212239100
the "golden age of tv" really is way over isnt it

>>212238910
oh no i totally forgot about the brieanne scenes. wow that was bad

>>212238851
upvoted

>>212230344 (OP)
>I haven’t even mentioned the NIGGERS
i must genuinely be retarded. 15 years on this shitty ass website and i still laugh at stuff like this

>>212237301
i prefer fishes from season 2

the forks is weird because richie worked at the place for like a week and then when he comes back they treat him like he worked there for years

>>212230344 (OP)
What's worse is that, despite the therapy-speak, nobody seems capable of actually resolving their interpersonal issues. So the show never moves past that shit, which is boring and cringe, and increasingly less of the show has to do with the restaurant.

>>212230344 (OP)
No bears either

>>212238647
>who likes any of this?
People twice your age (other than TLOU, that I don't really know)

>>212239338
sopranos is the only show Ive ever seen that shows thearpy in a way thats both accurate and entertaining story wise

>>212239338
>So the show never moves past that shit, which is boring and cringe, and increasingly less of the show has to do with the restaurant.
So the restaurant is the zombies in the Walking Dead, kek

I started watching this 2 nights ago and I'm 2 episodes in and Sydney has legit made me stop watching. her acting is SO fucking bad it's unreal.

Looks like the 4chan incels can't understand a show about authentic working people with deep phycological issues. Burn local

>>212239420

>>212239420
Youre a snydercut motherfucker

>>212239420
hey guys lets get fatass matty matheson under the table too, yeah and he'll bring the other funny fat guy. squeeze some comic relief under that table lol this little girl has a serious head trip about daning with her step dad! omg we're shooting under the table its genius tier

>>212238647
>who likes any of this?
gays and women. thats who most modern media is for

>>212230344 (OP)
>This show is insufferable.
>The drama boils down to:...
your entire post conceptualizes the way I felt after watching the first episode.
I work in a restaurant and everyone was saying how great The Bear was. Even my mom asked me if I had seen it. I watched the first episode and I saw that it was a show for NPCs. The acting was bad, the story was bad; the only thing good about it was that it did write in some realistic details about the service industry, which I somewhat appreciated, but I already deal with that irl for hours a day and I don't want to watch a show about it. It's annoying that a show like this is raved about to such an extent. Retards don't know what good is and can't into art.
tl.dr: the show sucks, dropped it after episode 1

>>212239680
yeah, as a basic concept the show isnt interesting in and of itself. throw in annoying characters on top of that and you have something I will never watch

>”You, strong black woman with almost no experience, are in fact The Bear, because you are superior to me - a lowly white man - in every way. Please accept my share of the restaurant as reparation for all my wrongdoing.”
I knew they were going to pull this shit

>>212239680
In my experience anyone who yells at a line cook generally gets their face caved in. The Bear makes it seem like being shout-y is how you get shit done which is just ridiculous

they should of had a shot looking down from the celling at matty mathesons giant fat ass crack blocking the entire isle between the buffet tables. and then some little kid pours kool aide down his ass crack and he goes mental. the kids mom has to pepper spray him and shes like is he the one they call the bear

Id rather watch a show about janitors then this slop

>>212239932
I want a show about janitors in high profile facilities like hospitals that is written exactly like The Bear. Imagine our protag having a meltdown because he mixed too much water into the bleach solution or some shit before mopping the floor

>>212240033
>AHHHHHHH
>I HAVE TO CLEAN THE WHOLE FLOOR

season 4 has like 20 minutes of this faggot's dad texting him or leaving a voicemail and him reacting silently

>>212240186
damn, this show is so fucking deep

>>212238647
You're right about all of those except for Succession.

Only start to finish S-tier "prestige drama" in the past 5 years

Carm isn’t just anxious he is legitimately mentally ill. Fuck therapy. In his case really needs to be unironically medicated.

>>212240033
>Bear, someone just dropped a plate of spaghetti in the break room
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH I'M GOING INSAAAAAAANE *flashbang SFX*

>>212230344 (OP)
its designed to shepherd incels into food industry jobs and its not even subtle

>>212240366
its the worst fucking job there is. and even bartenders or waitresses make more money in tips then cooks do

>>212240244
It’s got great dialogue, excellent acting and high production value, but it can’t hold a candle to peak Golden Age shows like The Sopranos and Six Feet Under. It lacks emotional depth, and it has the same bland prestige TV aesthetic as every other high-end show. It’s not a work of art - it’s content.

>>212240610
It’s basically mental illness and family dysfunction as drama.

>>212240610
>Six Feet Under
gay

>>212240409
and thats why they had to make propaganda romanticizing it

I hate the term "server"

>>212230344 (OP)
I am sick of this queer and his “fuck me in the ass” panda eyes.

I notice they do everything they can to conceal his real height.

>>212230344 (OP)
It’s why I dropped it after a few episodes and it’s woke

>>212241545
you know what I hate? woke slop. dont wanna see no gay black women twerking on white men

>>212232912
Omg you’re so cool for cutting potatoes and making barely any money

>>212230412
>leach into

Idiot.

>>212238647
>every recent popular tv show is dogshit:
it's always a bunch of neurotic dipshits standing around talking about their insecurities like it's a fucking therapy session. Wow so entertaining and deep.

>>212231676
Tim russert was an asshole and a shill see his 2008 interview of ron paul

>>212230344 (OP)
>It’s okay, and you’re so brave for being here, I love you and appreciate you.
KINO
Thanks, show downloading now

>>212232798
That scene and the arcade stuff is so out of place because it's never brought up again.
>>212235039
Yeah, I could see him keeping in contact with Jess since she clearly fancies him but to the rest he would just have been one of many many forgotten stages.

>>212230344 (OP)
how did the worst character from shameless get the most work since that show ended

>>212230344 (OP)
fuck cant believe i read all that only for it to end with a pol dog whistle

>>212239405
Yes exactly

>>212230344 (OP)
Season 5 renewal announcement just dropped

>THE GUY DOESN'T LIKE MUSHROOMS!
>AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M LITERALLY GOING INSANE AND WANT TO FIGHT YOU OVER THIS!
who the fuck watches this slop?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYirHifPZ68

>>212244096
All that over some motherfucker not wanting mushrooms with his fucking food. Holy fucking shit this is so forced.

>>212244096
is this meant to be funny? what the hell is this supposed to be

>>212244082
based beargods win again

>>212244096
Yeah really. Just leave out the fucking mushrooms. If anything it's even easier because you have one less thing to add. But I guess working in a kitchen normally wouldn't make for very entertaining television.

>>212230344 (OP)
I defended the show when people said nothing happened in season 3 but season 4 was truly new levels of nothing fucking happening, and this one didn't even have a kino episode set to nine inch nails.

>>212241447
You wouldn't get it... my uncle served 2 tours at Applebee's and came back a changed man. He is still extra jumpy on Tuesdays, serving bottomless fries and $1 mimosas will do that to you

>>212244096
oh no, not the papers!
Also no one ever has a mushroom allergy

So why hasn’t he fucked Ayo yet? There is such thing as too much “slow burn” in a slow burn romance

>>212230344 (OP)
Old TV shows were written by people who were well read and well traveled. They knew hardship but didn’t make it their identity. New TV shows are written by social media addicts who go into a panic attack at the slightest inconvenience or discomfort.

>>212244082
Season five will be the last season because then the actors get to renegotiate their contracts. You’ll never see another show go on longer to five seasons because the syndication model is dead.

>>212245655
>You’ll never see another show go on longer to five seasons
then how is stuff like SVU and greys anatomy still going after 20 plus seasons?

>>212245809
They were grandfathered in before the streaming model overtook syndication. Also their audiences skew older. Boomers are the only ones left who leave their TV on a basic cable channel all day to simulated human contact.

mr. robot was one of the first shows that was very popular at the time that I just had zero interest in. I feel the same way about the bear where as soon as it ends nobody will ever talk about it again, and it wont have any lasting legacy

>>212235146
>He rolls with the punches and doesn’t isn’t super sensitive about criticism like his neurotic manlet cousin
have you seen S4?

>>212244096
every dialogue across all seasons is like this. just people yelling over each other over the most mundane shit. it got old fast

>>212230344 (OP)
civilians like you just don't understand how stressful it can be to get down and burn on the line in the kitchen

>>212246609
this chomo better be burning local

>>212230344 (OP)
>The show’s message is: “everyone is a wreck without therapy
That is correct thoughbeit chudsenpai.

Working food service is literally a diagnostic indicator for mental illness when you can work.

Why would any sane mentally healthy person work 5x as hard with 10x as fast with 20x the yelling/cuntishness of retail for 1.2x more money?

In and 8 hour retail shift you can therapeutically stock shelves for 6 hours at your own pace with an air pod in listening to podcasts, spend an hour in the bathroom, and an hour on scheduled paid break. In that whole time, you'll maybe see a manger 3 or 4 times.
In an 8hour foodcuck shift you will be lucky to sit down let alone piss, and you will lucky to escape without a berating for something you had nothing to do with, manager always looking over your shoulder at every moment.

Not a single sane person would willingly foodcuck. Every one is batshit insane and a masochist.

Hate this bitch so much

Every time someone calls The Bear one of the most emotionally raw shows on television, I feel like I’m being gaslit by prestige TV discourse. Sure, it sounds like it’s about grief and passion and complicated family dynamics, but what it actually offers is an endless montage of stress, trauma responses, and characters who can’t finish a sentence without a panic attack. It's emotionally busy, but not emotionally honest. Everything is filtered through aestheticized anxiety—fast cuts, mumbling, rage-strokes of dialogue—like it's afraid to actually stop and feel something without shoving you into a claustrophobic kitchen first.

Compare that to almost any decent K-drama: My Mister, Because This Is My First Life, When the Camellia Blooms. These shows don’t posture or perform emotional depth—they just live in it. They believe that a quiet conversation on a bench can matter more than a long tracking shot of a man spiraling in an alleyway. Korean dramas aren’t ashamed of tears, or love, or reconciliation. They’re not trying to win Emmys by out-trauma-ing each other. They let their characters be wounded and sincere, sometimes even corny, because that's how real emotional stakes feel.

come home white man
>>212241316

>>212246679
main guy looks insufferable enough but this money looking cunt is definitely what will keep me from ever checking it out.

>>212246790
dont care about korean shit

>>212246845
fine, then the keep watching shit and constantly complaining, seems like the only thing you're able to do

>>212246679

i only watched season 1, but an anon from a previous thread said he 100% predicted exactly what would happen with her character in the last season

qrd?

>>212246929
I just watch shit thats already ended. barely any current tv worth watching now

>>212246967
watch Our Unwritten Seoul, it just ended.

>>212247049
are they twins?

>>212247210
yes, they swap places, it's kino

>>212247286
she looks like she shits into napkins and throws them at retarded kids.

>>212247325
no, you're thinking of attorney woo

>>212232102
brie is not for lewd

>>212230344 (OP)
yeah, the negress especially is a dogshit character

>crumbles under pressure
>majorly fucks up and runs out on everyone
>doesn't apologize for anything
>the main guy has to actually apologize to her
>does nothing and gets half the restaurant for no reason
>didn't even put up any money

like what the fuck?

>>212230777
There's a DEI slop from the 2020 era of streaming thing where most of the drama are characters acting extremely selfish to the point of causing harm to others and themselves out of pride and emotional immaturity, but the narrative paints this as justified and appropriate because it was their truth. Once they speak their truth and are "heard" then the drama is resolved.
It's got to be that social-emotional learning bullshit. There's some social engineering reason behind this, something about programming kids to fail to think of society in terms of abstract rules.

>>212247437
That friend bitch in that show is so fucking hot. I had a high school crush from Korea that looked like her same phenotype but this actress is five times as hot like an ideal of the high school crush.

The lead attorney of their team with the glass dude is a fucking boss as model IRL but looks like a nerd in the show, but his in show estranged wife is fucking hot.

>>212247983
I feel like ted lasso sort of invented this trope. god what an awful show that was

>>212248077
Oh no, Ted Lasso is practically Shakespeare.
I'm talking about Umbrella Academy S2 or - forgive me - Doom Patrol.

>>212241514
anon...

>>212246790
>>212246929
>>212247049
>>212247286
>>212247437
go back to KPOP general you absolute faggot

>>212249922
kpop is not kdrama

Like Squid Game, only the first season is any good.
The first season is an angry, frenetic, quick watch that focuses on how stressful the fast food service industry can be that has some degree of relatability to people who have worked in it.
Season 2 onward it becomes about fine dining and pretentious convos about jack shit set to contemplative indie music that is just incredibly monotone and a NyQuil viewing experience. And this shit got renewed for a fifth season. Yawn.

>>212250013
they're both for sexless white faggots who will never get korean pussy though

>>212250103

>>212250103
do you even like anything that you watch or do you just constantly hate watch and seethe with everything?

>>212239176
bro that shit was so confusing I thought they were trying to do a subversive gay story which in itself is bad but after Markus's roommate gushes like a faggot he invites both of them to Hooters and Markus is like '...yeah that's his favorite restaurant' I have no fucking clue what their relationship is

>>212250287
>>212250354
I like a lot of stuff, just not the korean soap operas you pretend to like and jerk off to

Theres a whole generation of line cooks who got duped into going to culinary school and getting inculcated into The Industry line of thinking. Where cooking has to be this elevated but also super humble art and you better hope you have an exiting heritage to fetishize. They build all of these visions expectations, take solace in the systems of advancement and camaraderie. But they orbit around the black hole that is the fact that their art is turning into feces in a few hours. That cooking for others is never appreciated in the inflated ways they think they should aspire to. That restaurants are not about making art, but money. That artists are businessmen and that the best businessmen can make themselves out to be idiot savants who fold their egg omlet over 9000 times. Young creative types are introduced to the mule's circle of real kitchen work they need media like this to continue their desperately held hope of being in the "before" part of their chef success story.

>>212246679
Producers let her direct an episode
>”my episode will be all about bringing visibility to a woman of color!! And bringing equity to the production!!”
Producers let her write an episode
>”my episode is uh… we’ll it’s all about my character… but a white MALE wouldn’t be able to write my dialogue!”
>”my episode won’t even have Carmy! It’s just me talking to my third cousin about Black Hair!”
>”my character definitely has range. She just talks like me because I wrote her that way”

>>212251298
If the black hairdresser episode had a fire alarm chirp every 60 seconds I would rate it x10 higher

>>212242186
Moron

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>>212238899
Gay as fuck

>>212251036
yep.
worked in kitchens off an on for over a decade and cooks and bartenders that are into bourdain and the like are the most insufferable fucked up people i've ever come across in work. i've worked with some fucked up druggie/alcoholics in manual labor, and some eerily empty minded normie types in IT, but nothing is quite as insufferable as the self important, "cultured" kitchen staff employee.

>>212238910
What? Has she done anything of note outside of her marvel slop since the Oscar?

>>212252737
It saddens me because food is such a rich and beautiful thing to study and practice. It deserves enshrining in a certain way. It can evoke so much so easily. But the effete touch of marketing and advertisement corrupts all such things. The cultured punk still buys things at a very acceptable rate